Japan's First Battleship Loss - The First Naval Battle of Guadalcanal, 1942 - Animated

[@HoH]

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[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Another great video! Thanks For this 😊😊😊😊

[@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle]

Russki????

[@ericcaldwell2074]

Admiral Ching Lee

[@dovif5313]

It is ching chun china lee

[@jo3lhr]

Hi! I’m a Japanese viewer and I absolutely love your channel! I noticed, like some others have mentioned, that the name 阿部 (Abe) is actually pronounced ‘Ah-beh,’ with the first syllable stressed and a soft ‘e’ sound at the end. It’s a little different from ‘Abe’ like Abraham Lincoln. It’s an easy mix-up, especially for non-Japanese speakers, so no worries! It’d be awesome if you could correct it in your next video, especially since you’re promoting a language learning app. Thanks so much!

[@slypear]

Thanks for mentioning this point! Took me awhile to get used to "Abe" being pronounced like Abe Lincoln - lol. (Japanese is my second language.) Otherwise, really great presentation. Might I suggest the narrator use this video's sponsor, Lingopie, to brush on his Japanese!

[@brianlloyd8758]

The same could be said for the pronunciation of IJN ship names. HoH gets them right, but so many other narrators get them wrong; which takes my focus away from the story.

[@stevethepirate8907]

You sound a little bu-hut hurt.

[@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral]

Babe, it's Admiral Abe 😂

[@curtiskretzer8898]

Guessing akin to Shinzo Abe pronunciation?

[@bsmartr806]

Japanese naval decisions have always intrigued me. "We're winning...RETREAT!!!", "We're losing...PRESS FORWARD!"

[@asianbandit4054]

More like "We're winning lets leave before we lose," and "We're getting beaten SHAMEFUL DISPLAY!!!"

[@danielb7253]

Failed to take the initiative part of culture waiting for precise orders

[@danielb7253]

Hence Yamamoto was the star

[@maisonraider4593]

Standard japanese doctrine, was the preservation of precious naval assets over the complete destruction of the enemy. Until desperation and lack of other options forced them to abandon this tactic, which held on until the battle of Samar sea.

[@今アル]

I experience the same feelings when gambling. "Leave while you are up" "Try to get it all back when you are down"

[@calebsagert8301]

"Atlanta was burning." Well, that certainly wouldn't be the first time that's happened.

[@imperialmodelworks8473]

General Sherman approves this comment

[@sodog44]

"A barroom brawl with the lights turned out" as it was called by one of the survivors.

[@carlambroson8872]

Shane (which has the best bar fight scene I ever saw), springs to mind!

[@CristinaMarshal]

Never knowingly understated! - What a ruffle!

[@shironasama0445]

I too watched Battle 360

[@franksposato6072]

Certainly a very confusing night action and a good attempt at recreating it. There was a recent article on this battle by Robert Lundgren where he discovered that USN torpedoes managed to do much more in this fight, even against both sides. 3 DDs hit the Hiei with 6 torps (spread far apart and not fully detonating), a torp from Sterett sank the Laffey, and 2 torps from Fletcher hit the Cruiser Portland. Many more USN ships hit each other with gunfire as well unfortunately.

[@jimmiller5600]

And Capt. Hoover got blamed. Marvelous.

[@WilliamMurphy-b6v]

Not fully detonating? Funny are explosives can be.

[@monkeyseemonkeydo1794]

Hiei fighting hard while Kirishima at the back farming damage 😂

[@pauloakwood9208]

Unbelievable. They gave command to an inexperienced Admiral simply because he had 15 days seniority over the alternative.

[@cameronspence4977]

Welcome to government stupidity 101.

[@brucelytle1144]

The Navy way!

[@WilliamMurphy-b6v]

​@brucelytle1144 The US Navy was woke before woke even existed. Senority was more important than merit. Perhaps the assumption was that seniority was attained by demonstrated excellence over time. Turns out they were wrong. wrong.

[@legoeasycompany]

I'll still never get over how Admiral Halsey removed Captain Hoover over the aftermath of this battle, then goes on to almost lose and entire invasion force and then lead the fleet into 2 typhoons without reprimand

[@bkjeong4302]

Halsey never “almost lost an invasion force”; at Leyte the Japanese only showed up days after the landings had begun, and even once Halsey took the bait and took Third Fleet with him Seventh Fleet (which was the force actually in charge of close support) was still in the area.

[@legoeasycompany]

@@bkjeong4302 leaving the northern flank open with all the transports with all the supplies would count. Repeating Guadalcanal in 1944 isn't a good way to start a campaign off.

[@bkjeong4302]

@@legoeasycompany The transports and supplies had, again, started landing five days prior, and were still covered by Seventh Fleet (which was the fleet in charge of covering the landings in general, Halsey was in charge of providing more distant air cover in the operational area and attacking Japanese forces preemptively).

[@Sortalike]

Halsey was overrated. Almost as much as MacArthur who was an even worse bumbling fool. Wartime politics and propaganda made heroes out of fools and fools out of heroes

[@Sortalike]

He got suckered north at layte and left the north pass unprotected as he promised to do

[@ELCADAROSA]

Rear Admiral Daniel J. Callaghan - namesakes are USS Callaghan (DD-792) and USS Callaghan (DDG-994). Rear Admiral Norman Scott - namesakes are USS Scott (DD-690) and USS Scott (DDG-995). The earlier ships were Fletcher-class destroyers. The latter two were KIDD-class guided missile destroyers.

[@TheCarlosAmador-x2q]

Thanks for the closure! 😊

[@Draconisrex1]

Callaghan didn't know how to effectively use radar and didn't rely on those who did. This loss was, in great part, due to his personal shortcomings and his command failures. It didn't help the Mark 14 torpedo was defective and multiple probable hits failed to detonate.

[@t5ruxlee210]

Extremely important points. War is a much too important activity to be left in the hands of those "with seniority" who chose to completely ignore what were, in effect, "miracle war winning advances in technology". Granted, vacuum tubes radar was a "delicate child" once the guns started up but as long as there were spares and techs who could quickly get it back on line, it's value was beyond price.

[@MinnesotaGuy822]

There are times when the cost of a victory is so high that in the bigger, long-term picture, you lose. Or, tactical victory but strategic frustration and/or defeat. True of the British at Bunker Hill and the Japanese at Coral Sea, Santa Cruz islands and here.

[@recoil53]

I don't know how this can be called even a tactical victory for the Japanese. They lost a battleship and couldn't even begin to shell Henderson field.

[@curtiskretzer8898]

Maybe falling into Phyrric Victory column on histerical win loss big board?

[@recoil53]

@@curtiskretzer8898 Where is the win though? They never finished their mission and took bigger losses in ships.

[@Louis-gr4cz]

​​@@recoil53they didn't achieve their main goal however they did win this battle against the American ships tho and the Japanese lost fewer ships so idk if you were listening to the video at all

[@recoil53]

@@Louis-gr4cz You do realize that losing a battleship is worse that losing a cruiser, right? I don't know how bad at math you are, but the USN lost about 20K tons, The IJN Hiei is 37000 tons.

[@jonathanpurba2374]

Most chaos battle so far

[@HoH]

Agreed

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Thanks For this HOH! love your content ❤❤❤❤

[@MistressPeggySueNash]

How about a documentary on Tameichi Hara who was known as the miracle captain and Shigure known as the indestructable destroyer

[@HoH]

Thank you, this is exactly the type of suggestion I am looking for! I've made note of it and after my current project (a detailed analysis of the Battle of the Coral Sea) I will create an episode on this.

[@KHK001]

Amazing video as always!

[@jasongaston17]

Let's go another banger so glad I subscribed sending love from Chicago IL

[@jasongaston17]

Can u please do a video on the Eastland the titanic loss of life of Chicago and the Britannic collision of the naval destroyer

[@jamieharmer5654]

R.I.P BRAVE SOUL'S of Both Sides

[@Napoleon1815-l8c]

For your Guadalcanal series, could you make sure you add the sinking of the Chicago? These videos are top notch!

[@JacobSchmeau]

I love the clarity of your work.! Untangling these battles is no easy feat .👍👍 GREAT. STUFF

[@HoH]

Much appreciated

[@g.o.a.toldvids3034]

Since you said you speak german: Deine Videos sind echt sehr gut gemacht und animiert muss ich sagen Ich bin ein großer fan von den Naval Battles die sind so detailliert und sehr spannend Bitte mach die serie unendlich weiter!❤ Love from Germany

[@HoH]

Danke!

[@CesarinPillinGaming]

How the hell they blamed the captain that assumed command AFTER the disaster caused by the admirals that had perished?

[@paulsteaven]

The curious case of the Kongo class: They were called as battlecruisers despite IJN's redesignation to fast battleships. They were called as battleships when they're up against destroyers like USS Laffey at USS Johnston to name a few.

[@hjusn]

Those defective torpedos cost so many American lives at the beginning of the war.

[@athrunzala6919]

Lots of friendly fire from both sides, so sad. hello from Canada HOH, have you done a video on Wake island?

[@HoH]

Only a non-animated one years ago. I will likely create an animated version in the future!

[@terryhsiao1745]

Imagine if the american torpedoes actually worked. LOL

[@krishnendukuila4383]

bro make more naval videos of world wars , i really love to see your videos

[@VuduVince]

At 4:13 you call out a Betty bomber which was twin engine with several crew then show a single engine single seat Zero Fighter on Screen, keep in mind you're going to have folks who are new to this and take what you say and show on screen as the item in question.

[@edstein5642]

Best account of this notoriously confusing naval battle I’ve seen. Future program suggestion; account for the vessels damaged at Pearl Harbor that returned to service. The Nevada & Helena are two of the better known examples but there’s many more… it’d be interesting to know how & where the repaired ships served.

[@gregoryvigneault1824]

Great visual representation

[@exharkhun5605]

Holding a straight course without even varying your speed when you know there's destroyers about... These guys should be glad there aren't any replay files around from that time because Jingles would have some strong words about that.

[@TheSilentPrince-mt5mx]

I haven't watched any of MJs videos in years but that is one thing I do remember him banging on about.

[@exharkhun5605]

@@TheSilentPrince-mt5mx Not watched in years!? To the salt mines with you! 😁

[@TheSilentPrince-mt5mx]

@@exharkhun5605 Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! 😎

[@mr.s2005]

forgot to mention that the Laffey volley injured the Japanese Admiral and killed his aid which apparently rattled him a bit.

[@Theearthtraveler]

Thanks for sharing

[@Jerimiah10]

My grandpa was a Pearl Harbor veteran aboard Bobolink. NIce to hear his ship come up.

[@cameronspence4977]

I think that was the most successful US tugboat/ship of the war

[@kennyo4365]

My 1970s Navy experience was not in armament but still, I’m curious about how a torpedo, having been launched, fails to arm yet explodes prematurely??!! (Five USS Laffey torpedoes, ref. 10:00.) Was that yet another flaw of the Mk 14?

[@jorhed2285]

Great video!

[@darekkijewski713]

Thanks, an amazing quality video, please keep them comings!

[@g.o.a.toldvids3034]

Ivh freu mich jedes mal wenn ein neues Video erscheint!❤ Danke aus Magdeburg

[@edwardcanavan]

The loss of Callaghan was not a big loss. He single handily engineered the defeat at the battle of Savo island having left his command w/o informing his command or leaving any one in charge. The loss of Scott was a blow, he had shown much promise.

[@00calvinlee00]

Actually Admiral Callaghan was not the Admiral in Command at Savo Island. Admiral Crutchly of the RAN took his Heavy Cruiser Australia to meet with Admiral Turner and his Staff. It is correct that there was no clear chain of command. Admiral Scott had practiced Offset Gunnery and did very well however Admiral Callaghan was senior by a matter of days. Admiral Callaghan DID make errors by not deffering to Admiral Scott who had been in theater longer and by not raising his flag on radar equipped Cruisers. Radar was still new technology and there were many kinks with them. There also was no plan for the US Forces engaging two IJN columns.

[@edwardcanavan]

@@00calvinlee00 Thank you for the correction. I've been attributing the two Naval disasters to one man for far to long.

[@jameshannagan4256]

@@00calvinlee00 I was going to say the same thing although Callaghan didn't exactly cover himself with glory, he did bravely give his life for his country.

[@mbhinkle]

Very well done , and clear, artistic information. Thanks.

[@johnaustin5677]

This channel slaps!

[@HoH]

💪🏽

[@notthefbi7932]

Ironbottom sound is sadly a perfect name for that area

[@kmarks97236]

This was not the first naval battle of the campaign. The first one occurred a couple days after the landings.

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage video about naval clashing between Japanese assault forces and 3 US tasking forces during WW2 front northern shorelines of Guadalcanal. island .thank you an amazing ( house of history) channel for sharing

[@HoH]

Thank you for the nice comment!

[@TheSnowMan-cy9tu]

These battles must be terrifying in person. So much firepower, and not much you can do being on a ship

[@bregjejabra25]

I left a "like"...

[@MinedMaker]

Spelling mistake at 0:05. It ways "The Guadalcanal Capmaign" I'm guessing that's supposed to say campaign(?). Great video still.

[@taskforce3833]

interesting video, but I'm having the feeling that there is a piece missing during the commercial. it is well known that Halsey was an "if he fights, I'll back him" admiral but sadly King had other ideas concerning who commands what. the Americans where at that time still struggling with the torpedoes, it would be a bit longer before the issues where mostly resolved and the torpedoes would explode when hitting targets. Ah-Beh should maybe have used not AP but HE rounds, they still go through the thin armor of us cruisers but may cause a lot more damage. what i see as a big flaw in this battle is simply that none of the US admirals trusted the newer radar on Helena, they looked at the radar of the ship they where on (an older set) and did not see anything so in the minds of Scott and Callaghan the radar of Helena could not be trusted.

[@greygalah]

great vid. Thank you

[@alannolan5126]

thanks for making sow many Naval Battles of WW2 yr videos Complement the Pacific War Series that, im watching in Kings and Generals Channel

[@MrJimmy1717]

Every time I see something about this battle I cant help but too check it out. House of History is slicing out a nice chunk of the animated gods-eye-view of events silo, that wanker The Operations Room(love those guys fr) has some serious competition.

[@cynwraeth1943]

I hope they don't see themselves as competition. Most of us who are subbed to one of them are also subbed to the other they're more complimentary than competitive. I love them both 😀

[@nichaaa.l]

The sinking of USS Jeneau by I-26 reminding me about the loss of USS Yorktown by I-168 that shown the dangers of Japanese submarines that able to cause cost huge loss to USN after the crew able to save her from major engagement.

[@GM-fh5jp]

Good video. So here's a suggestion for a new episode. Late in the Solomons air campaign as the Marine air squadrons were fighting their way up the slot etc they apparently were in actual voice communication with the Japanese flight leaders flying Zeros, often taunting them and exchanging banter with the few that could speak English. Any truth in the story? and if so...let's see what you can do with it.

[@daniellucas1494]

What a mess. One of the darkest days of the US Navy. I have had the honor of visiting the second USS Laffey many times. A true hero! And - as always - very nicely done sir - excellent as usual!

[@stevenbaer9061]

Is the Laffey tied up in Albany, NY?

[@daniellucas1494]

@@stevenbaer9061 Patriots Point, SC - across the inlet from Charleston.

[@stevenbaer9061]

@@daniellucas1494 Thank you, I have a feeling there is an aircraft carrier there as well.

[@daniellucas1494]

@@stevenbaer9061 Yep USS Yorktown CV10 - the second - just like the Laffey. The USS Clamagore SS343 used to be there as well, but no longer - it was scrapped last year. It is well worth the trip.

[@stevenbaer9061]

@@daniellucas1494 I did check it out Sept 2016, nice collection of aircraft onboard the carrier.

[@pierredecine1936]

If the torpedo's detonated early - They indeed did ARM !!!!

[@wuffothewonderdog]

13.00 "In mere moments the leadership of the Amrican fleet had been decimated ???" Decimate . . decrease by one in ten. According to this piece only one survived. Surely the appropriate word is devastated? How many in the media understand the words they use?

[@Hillbilly001]

Always enjoy your videos. May this comment be a sacrifice to the Algorithm. Cheers from Tennessee

[@HoH]

💪🏽

[@janwitts2688]

The sulivan brothers were reported to have made it into the water and drowned because a usn Co observing the sinking refused to allow a rescue... keep history real

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

At least 2 made it off the Juneau

[@richardnugent7035]

Suggestion: How about the WW II battle at the Casserine Pass? I believe it was the first major engagement of US forces against the German Army. As an aside: is this battle analogous to the first large engagement between the US and NVA forces in the Ah Sha Valley during the Vietnam War?

[@robertjohnson9971]

Only analogous in that the US got their arses handed to them on both occasions. Ia Drang was the first major clash between the US Army and the PAVN in Nov 1965.

[@natheriver8910]

Very interesting

[@steveantunez2145]

Didn't this battle take place on November 13, 1942 ? In the beginning the narrator says "December 13th, 1942"...

[@chriskostopoulos8142]

The naval battles of Guadalcanal are very interesting. The Japanese had the chance to stop the Americans (at least for the time being) but they just didn't press home the advantage when they had it. Midway was important but the Guadalcanal campaign was the turning point in the Pacific war. The battleship engagement that followed this battle was the real point where the Japanese threw in the towel. They just failed to throw in the forces they had in the area to overcome the Americans. They just sent in bits and pieces. Where as the Americans were all in. The Japanese were never going to win the war but at the time of this battle they could of stopped the American advance and potentially negotiated a better peace deal.

[@richardcleveland8549]

". . . potentially negotiated a better peace deal." Hmmm. Seems unlikely that the US would negotiate for peace given the national outrage over the attack on Pearl Harbor. The US was out for revenge and got it . . . in spades. Yamamoto was right about the US reaction and our superior industrial capacity . . . but he still urged war.

[@oneofspades]

USN coming into the war thought they knew how to fight. This battle was a hard lesson.

[@Hillbilly001]

The Battle of Savo Island in August was much worse.

[@isaacsilvas2285]

The kirishima battleship that Japanese captain must’ve actually been blind and had no training or knowledge of controlling a ship bro was going in circles

[@saintely475]

Please look into Douglas Monroe, USCG, MH recipient, GUADALCANAL

[@Feathermason]

41 min of brutal hell...hollee w0w

[@Sakura.Lilly.W]

Can you do operation prying mantis or battle of midway

[@HoH]

Operation Praying Mantis is very interesting! Thank you for that suggestion! And yes, Midway is certainly on the to-do list!

[@alanh1406]

Hoover got blamed? He was about as responsible for that cluster as Margret Mitchel! I wonder if this was another of Admiral Bull(sh!t) Haulsy’s great decisions.

[@davidpippin3460]

Campaign is misspelled on the title screen, oops!

[@emancipy]

One of the best secret weapons of the Japanese were those Yankee Mark 14 torpedoes.

[@davidgaine4697]

I think the initiative of pressing on to Henderson Field was lost by this confrontation. This was an oversight. The key objective should have been to take on the marines but the Japanese consistently failed to land and support enough troops to do this. There is some suggestion the Japanese had an ingrained inferiority complex preventing them from direct action to follow up their aggressive forward propulsion. How true this is up to conjecture but time after time they failed to complete their objectives against the USA fearing backlash and the what they must have known or suspected would be inevitable defeat.

[@beepboop204]

uh oh, you made a minor mistake.......... THE INTERNET WILL BE FURIOUS 😋😛😜🤪😝

[@redheads604]

it's pronounced "ah beh", not "abe"

[@Hillbilly001]

Too late. It's already in the can as they say.

[@adamg7984]

I was asking this because I was almost certain it was pronounced "ahh-bay" but I'm no Japanese speaker. I just do value trying to pronounce these historical figures' names correctly. Or at least doing your best to do so. Calling him Abe like he's old Honest Abe Lincoln was very odd to me lol. Too late to change for the video, but it could help him in the future to know it's correct pronunciation.

[@otf7466]

Yet he claims to speak 3 languages in his ad lol. He might not speak Japanese, but someone so linguistically talented could surely get ah-bae right.

[@cameronspence4977]

​@@otf7466I think it's because he's using that stupid TTS software. Incompetent

[@bugunderwood8287]

Is this the battle that we see in the show “The Pacific” during the night that leaves the marines alone for some time?

[@00calvinlee00]

That was the Battle of Savo Island. The RAN Cruiser Camberra and the USN Cruisers Astoria,Vincennes and Quincy were all sunk and the USS Chicago suffered heavy damage.

[@Sortalike]

Enjoy the channel. Comment: l believe Japanese Admiral ABE is pronounced "Ah'-bay" not Abe (as in Lincoln). Could be wrong. Would appreciate if Japanese speaker would clarify. Also, what does ABE mean (if anything) in Japanese. Thank you

[@HoH]

You're right, I made a mistake

[@shootfirst2097]

4:10 References a Betty bomber, then shows a photo of a Zero fighter.

[@dankolesnikov1166]

The animation does not match a description of an actual battle. Laffey almost collided with Hiei, and was 20-30 feet from it. She fired all her guns at her at point-blank range, wounding the Japanese admiral and disabling command posts in the superstructure. In animation, she stays far away from the Japanese. Moreover, the whole American column found itself between Japanese ships after the rain squall ended. Here, it just maneuvers somewhere at the distance from the IJN.

[@alexanderleach3365]

The American fleet fought hard and saved Guadalcanal from a terrible shore bombardment from the Japanese.

[@Korporaal1]

Do the people at Kings and Generals know you're using their video?

[@Pure_Havoc]

were about to see the USS Washington show Kirishima what a real battleship is

[@steveb6103]

Maybe make sure that the person in charge knows what radar is and how to use it!

[@jamescarlson9599]

For people wondering why the Japanese retreated, it was because their ships would be exposed during daylight. If they attempted to reorganize the fleet and continue to fight the americans, they may not have been able to bombard henderson before dawn when planes could be launched against them. They also didn’t know the full size or disposition of the american force, which could have been larger as far as they were concerned.

[@ewok40k]

Poor US destroyers launching all the torps at Hiei only to learn they dont work ...😅

[@eazygamer8974]

You speak 3 languages! Which ones?

[@HoH]

English, Dutch, German

[@Hillbilly001]

​@@HoHBut Oscar, does Dutch really count? Isn't that your native tongue? Cheers

[@HoH]

@@Hillbilly001 I'd hope you speak your native tongue as well!

[@Hillbilly001]

@@HoH That's to be debated in some circles, but I'm pretty fluent in New Yorker and Bostonian, sorta. LOL!!! I am from the South which brings it's own challenges when trying to cipher Californian. LOL!!! Cheers

[@kevinpresley3136]

​@@HoHSpeaking 3 languages is awesome.Most people don't speak a second language 🙄. I used to speak German but it's been over 40 years.Greetings from the United States

[@hiddenfromhistory100]

FYI, Abe's name is pronounced "Ah-bey".

[@JRyan-lu5im]

"Coward retreated..." what an irony oof

[@bkjeong4302]

How San Francisco got decorated for this action after sinking the other American flagship is beyond me, even with the decisive damage she did to Hiei. Also, this was very much an American victory tactically and operationally-they stopped the Japanese naval advance on Henderson Field which was their goal.

[@TheLoyalOfficer]

How can the US Navy fall guy a Captain for a battle where he was not even second-in-command? Come on. If anyone was responsible for this carnage, it was the two admirals who paid with their lives.

[@testy462]

One must wonder the outcome of these early battles if the American torpedoes frankly worked at all. Maybe you have a 2/10 or 1/10 chance of a 42 torpedo actually working.

[@HoH]

Not to mention the Japanese long lance torpedoes. While incredibly deadly, they were prone to missing their target as well.

[@DaveSCameron]

2:34. “ Raboool”?

[@lastguy8613]

Why would it be unexpected that they came south of the island rather than north? Id have thought it was a equal chance of both

[@kylelee9474]

[@ts.elliot5870]

I like to recommend a youtube channel by montemayor. He tells excellent WWII story plus graphics. This was very enjoyable as well.

[@jude_the_apostle]

Even when WW2 Japan somehow get a naval win, they lose

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

I cannot remember the family name but didn't a whole family of brother's lose their lives onboard the Juneau?.....the "Sullivan's"?

[@johndyson4109]

Ain't friendly fire wonderful that kills your own sailors!!!! Again the U.S. Navy might not have even bothered to use torpedos until they could have one that actually WORKED!!

[@SB-qm5wg]

That's a lot of failed torpedoes.

[@sushibar777]

It was November 13th, not December 13th.

[@spg77777]

Abe, as in Abe Lincoln... ? Ah-bay perhaps?