Japanese Historian Describes First Contact With Europeans // 16th cent. "Teppo-ki" // Primary Source

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Voices of the Past

4 жыл бұрын

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Here we have something special - the Japanese perspective of the first Europeans in Japan. In 1543 two Portuguese traders - men "whose physical features differed" from the locals - arrived on a Chinese junk, with a gift that would change the course of Japanese history. Recorded for posterity by Nanpo Bushi half a century later, this account gives us the view of a people coming into contact with Europe for the first time.
Translated by Olof G Lidin in his book "Tanegashima: The Arrival Of Europe In Japan" and published by NIAS press: www.niaspress.dk
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@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 жыл бұрын
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@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 2 жыл бұрын
wondering how they could be ignorant of guns when the Chinese had the earlier gunpowder tubes and cannons for centuries. It was from the Mongols & Chinese the west learned how to make early guns and use gunpowder in war. Shows how isolated even from the mainland Japan was culturally.
@EnlightenedTurtle
@EnlightenedTurtle 2 жыл бұрын
@@klyanadkmorr Japan was actually ripping out the original class of people's in a civil war.. the Ainu class of Caucasians (first Japanese peoples) were systematically eradicated and removed from Japanese history. I am intrigued as to how these two individuals are able to compile such a vast amount of false data.. almost like someone is feeding these boys nice little packages of dis info. I think they a pair of shills either willingly or naively. Never once have they addressed the crystal clear and apparent errors in chronology, instead opting for pure mainstream miss information. Real historians don't get to grow and build three channels gaining millions of views, they are silenced and hidden on the Internet, that is just a fact. Either these guys are terrified of ridicule or have no desire for truth.
@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 2 жыл бұрын
@@EnlightenedTurtle If you didn't live in your own bubble of fake whatthefkever freak conspiracy info you'd know modern Japan does teach of the Hokkaido AINU and have done things to represent them and help the remaining people as a minority. And post a comment directly to the channel people you fking troll vs replying to my openend question about a real life FACTUAL letter written.
@Trashplat
@Trashplat 4 жыл бұрын
"They show their feelings without any self-control." That still is, how a Japanese person would describe a Portuguese. 😂
@Mammel248
@Mammel248 4 жыл бұрын
Let's face it, that is also how Northern Europeans describe our Southern neighbours :D
@georgehunter2813
@georgehunter2813 4 жыл бұрын
East Asian vs European social temperament and mental depth is the comparison.
@erdnasiul87
@erdnasiul87 4 жыл бұрын
Portuguese are the most "shy" latins. Spanish or italians are WAY MORE loud.
@andrerobinson3233
@andrerobinson3233 4 жыл бұрын
@@erdnasiul87 but how shy are portuguese relative to non latins?
@erdnasiul87
@erdnasiul87 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrerobinson3233 we are not quiet as the finns... but we have a negative feeling about the future, lots of self hate... in a room of europeans, we hang out at a conner
@odinstrom3989
@odinstrom3989 4 жыл бұрын
Portugese: "yeah dude you kinda just like, stand steady, close on eye and shoot, thats really it" Japanese: "THE WISDOM OF SAGES AND THE WORDS OF THE GODS"
@zetos4440
@zetos4440 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@TheT3MK4
@TheT3MK4 4 жыл бұрын
ᛇ Odin ᛦᚵᛑᚱᛆᛋᛁᛚ Ström ᛚ japanese: he’s the Messiah
@LaEsquelaVieja
@LaEsquelaVieja 4 жыл бұрын
"Well you kinda want to kill your depth perception so you're focused on aiming at a flat image." "MY MAN DID YOU JUST QUOTE LAO TSU?"
@jeremymain7303
@jeremymain7303 4 жыл бұрын
@@LaEsquelaVieja You can almost picture him asking the translator "Does that - Does that mean he wants to shoot the gun or not?"
@Thunderous333
@Thunderous333 4 жыл бұрын
Portugese: Yeah so like, we believe in this one god who's pretty chill, you just gotta be chill back. Japanese: My man, it is time for you to leave.
@malahamavet
@malahamavet 4 жыл бұрын
Tokitaka: is it possible to learn this power? Portuguese: *not from a jedi*
@sebastianlodge7549
@sebastianlodge7549 4 жыл бұрын
“Not from a Spanish man”
@erdnasiul87
@erdnasiul87 4 жыл бұрын
Portuguese people are so nice! They sailed three oceans just to teach the japonense how to use guns.
@MaylocBrittinorum
@MaylocBrittinorum 4 жыл бұрын
Portuguese captain: not from a pagan
@malahamavet
@malahamavet 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaylocBrittinorum not from a samurai 😁
@ls200076
@ls200076 4 жыл бұрын
@Angelici Ordinis They also spread the religion of peace
@dershogun6396
@dershogun6396 4 жыл бұрын
How they basically have a philosophical conversation about the usage of a gun...
@Lazurath101
@Lazurath101 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly we should be having more of those these days...
@antonio2134
@antonio2134 4 жыл бұрын
We still have. I learned shooting rifles and handguns at a firing range in Italy. The instructor gave me a book. In that book there are advices about focusing exercises, breathing etc to improve accuracy. I followed those advices: at the final exam I hit 100 on 100 targets with the rifle and 98 on 100 targets with the handgun as the Japaneses did 500 years ago in the video. I don't know why the same number (100 shots) was used in 16th century japan and it is still used today at the firing ranges but to me it is fascinating.
@LostArchivist
@LostArchivist 4 жыл бұрын
Ought we not ensure the best of human thought go into sorting the proper usage of that which, could snuff out its light? Lest it extinguish all, the creation ending its creator.
@chucknorris202
@chucknorris202 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lazurath101 agreed the second amendment MUST be protected. And frankly Britain and mainland European countries need to arm their citizens as well. Nothing puts a STOP to tyrannical government that goes against the very will of the people it claims it "serves" than an armed population who isnt afraid; like the American people our people. It also ensures that radical marxists never gain control of our country; and they have already taken over the democrat party and all leftism in the USA. WE are what holds them back keeps them in line. They know they would be shot if they tried outright violence and insurrection and outright genocide and illegal alien invasion.
@vincentlaw1415
@vincentlaw1415 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, there is something very profound in firearms if you yourself think in the right way. A firearm is a weapon of precision and concentration. Just like in life, you try to hit a goal.
@georgepantzikis7988
@georgepantzikis7988 4 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how the Portuguese people were saying simple shit like "It's not about seeing far it's about having a more precise aim" and the japanese threw Lao Tsu at them.
@williamb1933
@williamb1933 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@juliusmoe-nstar8942
@juliusmoe-nstar8942 4 жыл бұрын
Portuguese: Aight it totes simple my dude, you close one eye and trace that iron nub at the end and then Busta-cap!!! Japanese: *Yeets Lao Tsu at them*
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 4 жыл бұрын
It is called language barrier, you are able to hear only one side of the story as the document was made in Japan...
@TieDef
@TieDef 4 жыл бұрын
Well it's these sailor guys who might not even be literate in their own language talking to a feudal lord who's spent his whole life studying poetry and the classics.
@Altrantis
@Altrantis 4 жыл бұрын
@@TieDef They're traders, they have to be able to write what they buy an sell and keep ledgers. They owned a large, advanced ship able to sail across the globe, after all, these were wealthy, successful merchants, they force fully knew their stuff. The Chinese translator probably never saw them writing, hence why he didn't think they could, but they almost certainly wrote journals and ledgers back in their quarters, or at least someone in their crew did, though merchants at the time preferred to keep track of sales themselves. Besides, they probably made a business of these trips to Asia, so they probably were familiar with the way the Chinese saw the world in a poetic, philosophical way and played along, even if they themselves didn't truly understand it.
@bunyaminakyol8779
@bunyaminakyol8779 4 жыл бұрын
"If you would like to shoot it, we would love to teach you all its secrets." Pacific Theater Loading
@denizmetint.462
@denizmetint.462 4 жыл бұрын
*Tennoheika Banzai!*
@lunch7735
@lunch7735 4 жыл бұрын
BFV
@dtpiers6136
@dtpiers6136 4 жыл бұрын
F
@geist41334
@geist41334 4 жыл бұрын
@@lunch7735 Did you know that there actually was a war, based on the game BFV. EA called it World War 2 and it was the biggest marketing campaign in human history....
@xS1leNtRapt0rZ
@xS1leNtRapt0rZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@geist41334 next thing you know ea will find a way to heavily monetize wwll
@maxkennedy8075
@maxkennedy8075 4 жыл бұрын
I love how the double translation from Portuguese to Japanese via a Ming Chinese interpreter sounds like a slightly dodgy google translate. Its oddly wholesome
@julioduan7130
@julioduan7130 4 жыл бұрын
Ancient educated Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese can communicate by writing because all the educated people at that time learnt Chinese.
@user-px3ou3td3m
@user-px3ou3td3m 4 жыл бұрын
Can you expain in two worlds what "wholesome" means? Wholesome is something that makes you feel good? Or good for you health?
@maxkennedy8075
@maxkennedy8075 4 жыл бұрын
Сергей Кондратов It means both.
@user-px3ou3td3m
@user-px3ou3td3m 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxkennedy8075 so, in contex of your comment is it mean same as "oddly satisfying"? I can't understand the usage of this world, because there are litteraly more than ten different translation.
@maxkennedy8075
@maxkennedy8075 4 жыл бұрын
Сергей Кондратов Think of it like this. Eating a good takaway is satisfying Eating some cookies your Mum baked for you is wholesome
@savage7882
@savage7882 4 жыл бұрын
Europe: Boom powder make ball go fast Japan: WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@NeonLine
@NeonLine 4 жыл бұрын
@Char Aznable exactly what I was thinking
@xAznSkyxx
@xAznSkyxx 4 жыл бұрын
Japan: Hot water makes body clean Europe: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@NeonLine
@NeonLine 4 жыл бұрын
@@xAznSkyxx this doesnt make sense
@loupgarou_96
@loupgarou_96 4 жыл бұрын
@@NeonLine Because theres a stereotype that French and Italian people dont bathe or something like that.
@NeonLine
@NeonLine 4 жыл бұрын
@@loupgarou_96 damn for real?
@erdnasiul87
@erdnasiul87 4 жыл бұрын
"Quite harmless" Portuguese "harmless" boy: let me introduce Japan to... G U N S
@MaycroftCholmsky
@MaycroftCholmsky 4 жыл бұрын
More importantly, let us harmlessly spread our religion of love and mutual understanding to some parts of your country.
@saebelorn
@saebelorn 4 жыл бұрын
@Alex Goulias Are you okay, friend
@wolfgangkranek376
@wolfgangkranek376 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaycroftCholmsky The same point could be made about Buddhism in Japan. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence#Japan Also early Japanese Christians were quite brutally wiped out. Fe. by crucifixion.
@Pedrosa2541
@Pedrosa2541 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaycroftCholmsky "harmlessly spread our religion"
@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath
@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure guns were invented in China. I think the Japanese knew about them.
@vivalibertasergovivitelibe4111
@vivalibertasergovivitelibe4111 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being like "Okay stand up straight and close one eye!" And get the an answer about lao tzu
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the days you went to Japan to discuss ancient philosophy, not for Hentai.
@deltoroperdedor3166
@deltoroperdedor3166 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alias_Anybody I think it still isn't very advisable to discuss Hentai once you arrive there
@It9LpBFS37
@It9LpBFS37 4 жыл бұрын
every time
@sandisbitmap4632
@sandisbitmap4632 4 жыл бұрын
666 likes, it is a shame if someone ruins it
@mejhdhhicbfshihids652
@mejhdhhicbfshihids652 4 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine they were just flexing on them and silently saying name ONE quote from saint peter I dare you... nothing? You got nothing
@nigglebit
@nigglebit 4 жыл бұрын
Portuguese: "So you just gotta brace yourself and close one eye to aim precisely." Japanese: "I see. To be strong of heart... to perceive not foresight but clarity in what you see. These are wise words that you speak; wisdom which echoes the teachings of great sages."
@SeaLady98
@SeaLady98 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@zachburskey8868
@zachburskey8868 2 жыл бұрын
I think steadying of the heart is the breathing technique used when sharpshooting with a rifle. You take a breath release, then take another and hold, then fire. This helps stop movement while aiming.
@gomes7066
@gomes7066 2 жыл бұрын
Portuguese: uuuuuh, right! Yeah, now just click that little thing. Japanese: *has a heart attack from the explosion*
@LucasCarter2
@LucasCarter2 Жыл бұрын
@@zachburskey8868 You’re not meant to hold your breath, you’re meant to shoot on full exhale. You breath out and then shoot.
@tahsinnawarreti6662
@tahsinnawarreti6662 9 ай бұрын
699th react need 1 more
@soyusmaximus7176
@soyusmaximus7176 4 жыл бұрын
And thus history was unalterably set on the course to deliver us cat girl tentacle hentai.
@95keat
@95keat 4 жыл бұрын
Truly the best timeline
@Aoderic
@Aoderic 4 жыл бұрын
If they had only known then, of the wonders that would come.
@ScottStratton
@ScottStratton 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes things do work out for the best.
@blugaledoh2669
@blugaledoh2669 4 жыл бұрын
This comment is the best.
@blugaledoh2669
@blugaledoh2669 4 жыл бұрын
@@ScottStratton Yes
@user-xg8yy7yl1d
@user-xg8yy7yl1d 4 жыл бұрын
"they do not know about property" "are quite harmless" Most inaccurate statements ever surrounding shipgoing european nations in the 1600s
@JM-fu6vy
@JM-fu6vy 4 жыл бұрын
They meant “propriety”
@aldenheterodyne2833
@aldenheterodyne2833 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in comparison to high-born and well-educated Chinese and Japanese folks a bunch of low-born, un-educated Portuguese traders had absolutely no propriety. But they were comparing apples and oranges. I think that in the mid 1600's the fancy people in Europe were using cutlery, but... Like... Normal people used their fingers.
@donfappino8559
@donfappino8559 4 жыл бұрын
Well technicly they didnt really know about property, they just took the land.
@kiri6534
@kiri6534 4 жыл бұрын
well, we portuguese didnt know much about others property since we, like most of europe just kinda of took what we wanted from other continents
@davidhoggan5376
@davidhoggan5376 4 жыл бұрын
Dmitry Terek you should think more critically. Manners serve a social purpose.
@ProjectThunderclaw
@ProjectThunderclaw 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or is this kind of adorable? Like yeah we all know where this eventually leads, but the account itself reads like mildly confused schoolboys who don't quite understand each other but are nevertheless happy to make friends and share their toys.
@ptlemon1101
@ptlemon1101 4 жыл бұрын
First contact between civilizations are a delight to read.
@alexandrejosedacostaneto381
@alexandrejosedacostaneto381 4 жыл бұрын
This doesn't really "lead" anywhere. Japan got some guns, traded with the Portuguese for a few decades and then isolated itself until the mid 19th century.
@gordusmaximus4990
@gordusmaximus4990 4 жыл бұрын
This was actually awesome to listen/read, its literally the beginning of globalization the americas are discovered, now first contact with Japan (some sources even say it was the portuguese who first discovered Australia, which makes sense, but nobody knows why they didnt start colonizing, but having a small population must be the key factor), its awesome. The Portuguese until the European expulsion of Japan were very important, they helped build Nagasaki and some Japanese words even have the influence of the Portuguese. And they were the masters of the Asian commerce until the Union with Spain, but we can say it was Iberians who started the age of globalization. And the diference of interaction is huge, for example, between the Portuguese and the natives of Brazil, for the Portuguese they were people who werent civilized and such, yet, despite not being as advanced as them in lots of fields, they saw the Japanese and Chinese as diferent and wold make trade with them and deals, instead of trying to conquer them (for now at least, they later would conquer parts of Asia, but usually city states with ports).
@martind349
@martind349 4 жыл бұрын
Missed that
@StarboyXL9
@StarboyXL9 4 жыл бұрын
@@iron6672 except themselves of course.
@Nale_Ckleysho
@Nale_Ckleysho 4 жыл бұрын
Japanese guy: Bro why are you squinting if you're trying to see something far away? Portuguese: (hits blunt) It's not about seeing what's far away that matters, it's focusing and finding clarity that allows you to hit that which is far away.
@halfnhalf5038
@halfnhalf5038 4 жыл бұрын
Lane Shockley I need to know what they were smoking back then
4 жыл бұрын
@@halfnhalf5038 gunpowder
@sakurasarmy
@sakurasarmy 4 жыл бұрын
Japanese guy: Broooo..(hits blunt as well)
@ollie2244
@ollie2244 4 жыл бұрын
Shit is heavy
@FakeSugarVillain
@FakeSugarVillain 4 жыл бұрын
*Strange ship arrives* *Strange people are in the ship* *Chinese scholar that comes with them starts writing in the sand* "I'm travelling with them, but I don't know them" *Strange people get down of ship and start making noise*
@Sabrowsky
@Sabrowsky 4 жыл бұрын
"hey homeboy we have guns and Jesus, say you want one or we'll use both"
@williamjames212
@williamjames212 4 жыл бұрын
That's completely funny 😄😆🤣😂😂😂.
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog 4 жыл бұрын
Silly weeaboos. Chinese and Vietnamese were the first people in the east made contact and traded with the Romans in late 1st century BC in Long Biên (Bắc Ninh)
@Sabrowsky
@Sabrowsky 4 жыл бұрын
@@cudanmang_theog if we're talking ancient east/west contact you also got the War of the Hevenly horses fought between the chinese empire and the bactrian greek kingdom that was a remnant of Alexander the Great's empire. And in a closer date to the portuguese-japanese contact you have Ibn Battutta, most kickass of muslim scholars/explorers embarking on his glorious backpacking trip that took him from morocco to malasya.
@jaypea30
@jaypea30 4 жыл бұрын
@@cudanmang_theog yes
@KuR58
@KuR58 4 жыл бұрын
I just love these ancient Japanese drawings of the Portuguese. They look so overly dramatic with weird eyes and huge noses. It's kinda hilarious.
@ahmataevo
@ahmataevo 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, so they were actually jewish traders...
@leonardoflorentin
@leonardoflorentin 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahmataevo no, Europeans or caucasians have a longer nose than those of the far east Asia.
@keegobricks9734
@keegobricks9734 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahmataevo they were le happy merchants.
@keegobricks9734
@keegobricks9734 4 жыл бұрын
You got to think of it like this; the man who made the painting probably never saw the Europeans in person. He likely had to base it on what other people told him. So imagine a painter on by his canvas and the witness explaining to him what they looked like. "Okay there were these guys from a boat" [Draws guys coming off a boat] "No, they looked different. They were a bit taller" [Makes Japanese people nearby a bit smaller for scale] "Yeah, and they had pointy noses" "What do you mean pointy? Like a spear or a knife?" "Yeah, pointy" [Draws pointy noses] "Also their eyes were weird" "Whatcha mean?" "Their eyes looked round" [Draws eyes a bit more round] "Perfect!"
@fancywrong6405
@fancywrong6405 3 жыл бұрын
No I've been to Portugal that's how they look
@kylepickus5712
@kylepickus5712 4 жыл бұрын
I love how when he hear the word “concentration”, he immediately thought of the teachings of Lao Tzu (the creator of Daoism).
@htoodoh5770
@htoodoh5770 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@halburd1
@halburd1 4 жыл бұрын
well they were very very primtive its all his brain could think of. poor primitive
@fandomguy8025
@fandomguy8025 4 жыл бұрын
He is such a fan.
@fandomguy8025
@fandomguy8025 4 жыл бұрын
@@halburd1 Uh no... he's just fanboying lol. People haven't changed our nature.
@nataliaborys1554
@nataliaborys1554 4 жыл бұрын
It's like when today everyone notices when someone says a reference to something you know. It's ancient fanboying, I think
@Alexander-tu3iv
@Alexander-tu3iv 4 жыл бұрын
I love how they had a long philosophical discussion about the nature of squinting.
@timmy4312
@timmy4312 4 жыл бұрын
Ofc they had, as it was amazing at the time
@zn4rf
@zn4rf 4 жыл бұрын
Well philosopy is the art of thinking, uncovering and understanding. Which by itself leads to a field where are no boundaries about _what_ one could talk. You could take/use you entire life just to talk and think about a single grain of sand and there would be still more, never ending.
@hardinhp
@hardinhp 4 жыл бұрын
European: are you fucking high or something? Translator talks to second Translator back and forwards for half a minute until he turns back again and awnsers 'yes'
@onii-chandaisuki5710
@onii-chandaisuki5710 6 ай бұрын
​@@hardinhp'Ahh, yes, to be as high as the clouds in the heavens, unburdened by earthly thoughts. You are most wise, foreign sage'.
@hardinhp
@hardinhp 6 ай бұрын
thank you for replying to a comment i wrote 3yrs ago@@onii-chandaisuki5710
@victoriap1561
@victoriap1561 4 жыл бұрын
"they are quite harmless" Oh boy
@230sergio
@230sergio 4 жыл бұрын
They were... don't confuse with the Spanish, British and Dutch...who tried to conquer Portugal and all the places they went many times...
@jakajakos
@jakajakos 4 жыл бұрын
In that case they actually were harmless... even more so, they were friendly.
@230sergio
@230sergio 4 жыл бұрын
@Michel Martinez not true...slavery was a small part of the Portuguese trading...nothing compared to the British, french, Spanish or Dutch...I know that is a general teaching in school but it's not accurate...just like the British don't even teach the slavery or the Dutch call it the golden century...at least in Portugal we study things as they were including slavery... By the way in those times slavery was a xommun practice around the world....but in Portugual there were laws for slavery...try to research before you speak
@ethandement482
@ethandement482 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he just meant this particular crew.
@coisinho47
@coisinho47 4 жыл бұрын
@@230sergio Bunch of nationalist garbage, we basically invented the transatlantic slave trade, because the number we could enslave in brazil was not enough, so we had to get african slaves. Thousands of them to work in the sugarcane farms. Many died in transit, or working to death. Much suffering was caused as a result. You are the one that needs to research. Also, we are certainly guilty of thinking our colonial empire was cool, portuguese language teachers in highschool basically make us deepthroat the work of propaganda known as the "Lusiadas" and the works of a poet that wanted a fifth empire, Fernando Pessoa. Tough at least my history teachers certainly exposed all the evils of colonization, and said it was bad.
@slyrooster1241
@slyrooster1241 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how guns brought people together lol such a bro moment
@erdnasiul87
@erdnasiul87 4 жыл бұрын
"Can you teach me how to kill someone with this?" "Yeah, say no more fam"
@tabushka292
@tabushka292 4 жыл бұрын
@Anthony 198877 They probably had their own versions of those words and slang that young people used. Times may be different, but people are the same throughout all of history.
@MrShnazer
@MrShnazer 4 жыл бұрын
slyrooster1241 which eventually leads to bro jobs.
@TheSeanoops
@TheSeanoops 4 жыл бұрын
We men are so simple, and unchanged in our basic pleasures. It’s beautiful.
@__prometheus__
@__prometheus__ 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony 198877 this was like freaking 300-400yrs ago. Boomer...
@ReddoFreddo
@ReddoFreddo 4 жыл бұрын
I love how the Portuguese probably said something like "You close one eye, you brace yourself, and then you shoot." and through double interpretation it became a secret wisdom that was consistent with ancient Chinese philosophy. One question though, don't you also close one eye when shooting a bow or a crossbow? Is this the historian taking some liberties or something? Surely the Japanese ruler would've known why you have to close one eye to aim.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen an archer close their eye, not sure why. In principle you get more depth vision with both eyes so closing one eye to take aim seems very directly related to the specifics of a rifle (musket), shooters with pistols don't seem to wink either.
@redghost6386
@redghost6386 4 жыл бұрын
I remember listening to a Spanish translator speaking English from Japanese to explain a technique to us. He said "using the power of the the mountains to move the element of water crashing into the sand" then our English interpretator said "he means use your body weight to flow through and smash your opponent"... Okay... Lol
@NefariousKoel
@NefariousKoel 4 жыл бұрын
It's easier to aim a firearm using only one eye, for a novice shooter, but ideal to practice with both eyes open while getting used to aiming with the stereo-vision. If for no other reason than to retain your peripheral vision while doing so. Just takes some practice and it's fine.
@metametodo
@metametodo 4 жыл бұрын
What I find most interesting in this was how we are able to understand and explain things, even if it isn't by using the technically correct way. They didn't understand how images are formed within our heads, with our eyes as two different receptors that form a parallax, giving us the perception of depth but forming a final image that's a merger of two different viewpoints. However, they still could explain in consistent ways how this worked. By closing one eye, you can more easily concentrate, being able to focus on what you see with one eye only, you lose a long vision, but you are better able to concentrate and aim easily. What in other words, means getting rid of a second viewpoint, which can get in the way of visualizing clearly the trajectory.
@Xanixade
@Xanixade 4 жыл бұрын
do you think that anyone could write at that time? he was probably an esteemed scholar with a reputation to hold and had to boast his people every way, his lords and neighbours. lol.
@enragedkaiser237
@enragedkaiser237 4 жыл бұрын
This is surprisingly wholesome
@andrejparunovic6888
@andrejparunovic6888 4 жыл бұрын
I know right, I expected it to be like, " And then the trader fired his fire stick into the sage before raping his wife and daughters, stealing his silver, and burning the nearest village. "
@storrho
@storrho 4 жыл бұрын
Scott Whatever The narrator is narrating something from a 16th century perspective. Are you really getting butthurt over someone from the 16th century being racist, when basically everyone was?
@hunternichols9463
@hunternichols9463 4 жыл бұрын
@Scott Whatever Nobody cares about your White guilt get over yourself
@daniel4647
@daniel4647 4 жыл бұрын
@@hunternichols9463 Pretty sure that was a joke, although I honestly can't tell anymore
@hunternichols9463
@hunternichols9463 4 жыл бұрын
@@daniel4647 I just don't know anymore either he could be joking around or he's dead serious either way it's annoying
@shane8037
@shane8037 4 жыл бұрын
"They are not very strange." Th-thank you senpai 🥺
@oparasatauwaya
@oparasatauwaya 4 жыл бұрын
どうも!(^∇^)ノ♪
@RKroese
@RKroese 4 жыл бұрын
You mean: Thank you, shi-fu. Because the guy is Chinese, not Japanese. And yes IKnow the meme...
@namproto7251
@namproto7251 3 жыл бұрын
@SC O'Dubhlaoch which country are you from?
@Zorro9129
@Zorro9129 3 жыл бұрын
@Tiger Tamer What's with the cyberbullying?
@user-hh2is9kg9j
@user-hh2is9kg9j 4 жыл бұрын
They made closing one eye to be a bigger issue than it really is.
@alessandronavone6731
@alessandronavone6731 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was funny. Although I suppose it wouldn't make any sense when shooting a bow, so it's not too strange.
@pvkjhilk8323
@pvkjhilk8323 4 жыл бұрын
closing one eye removes depth perception, always aim both eyes open, even if you see double at first, you will eventually not.
@dickbison
@dickbison 4 жыл бұрын
@@pvkjhilk8323 depth perception is useless unless you're shooting long range and taking bullet drop into account
@oservandobrasileiro8628
@oservandobrasileiro8628 4 жыл бұрын
How many musket of 16 century you fire in your life???...
@inregionecaecorum
@inregionecaecorum 4 жыл бұрын
In Regione Caecorum Rex est luscus.
@marcatteberry1361
@marcatteberry1361 4 жыл бұрын
I feel as if the original people were telling me personally, what they saw, and understood, with comparisons in life. Thank you for bringing 500 year old people, to life.
@user-hc6mt3ki2c
@user-hc6mt3ki2c 4 жыл бұрын
As a Japanese ありがとう。 Thank you for making this video. And thank you portuguese people for teaching us many European things. I pray that everyone will overcome the corona. Sorry my bad english.
@miguelpereira9859
@miguelpereira9859 3 жыл бұрын
Unifying Japan is probably the best thing we ever did and we didn't even intend it
@magyareuro2173
@magyareuro2173 3 жыл бұрын
Love from Hungary.
@marcojoao
@marcojoao 3 жыл бұрын
From a Portuguese barberian, thank you very much for your generosity.
@zhsjjzsjkz9788
@zhsjjzsjkz9788 3 жыл бұрын
As a Portuguese, thank you for accepting us and embracing the art of tempura, love japanese cuisine and culture, hope you're safe
@SimplyJohn155
@SimplyJohn155 3 жыл бұрын
🇵🇹🇯🇵
@jarednunes3263
@jarednunes3263 4 жыл бұрын
First things they said when they landed: "PORTUGAL CARALHO!"
@dinis8271
@dinis8271 4 жыл бұрын
Lil' Cumstain PORTUGAL CARALHO
@mori5481
@mori5481 4 жыл бұрын
@@dinis8271 PORTUGAL CARALHO!
@VictorHugoDeFreitasCunha
@VictorHugoDeFreitasCunha 4 жыл бұрын
CADÊ O OURO?
@mori5481
@mori5481 4 жыл бұрын
@@VictorHugoDeFreitasCunha Foi todo para refazer lisboa depois do terramoto, por isso o vosso ouro está nos nossos prédios na forma de cimento xD
@VictorHugoDeFreitasCunha
@VictorHugoDeFreitasCunha 4 жыл бұрын
@@mori5481 falei só pra causar intriga e ter brasileiro quebrando a corrente de "portugal caralho!" kkkkkk
@exiszentriker2952
@exiszentriker2952 4 жыл бұрын
The chinese accidentally discovered gunpowder when they searched for a medicine that keeps eternal youth (alchemy wasn't just an european thing). So they named it "fire medicine". Thats why the japenese guy called it medicine too.
@numbers4851
@numbers4851 3 жыл бұрын
Medicine was another name for chemical, from what I understand.
@eatcarpet
@eatcarpet Ай бұрын
Yes the kanji for gunpowder is 火薬, literally means "fire medicine". The 薬 is still used to mean both "medicine" and "chemical compounds".
@cody0126a
@cody0126a 4 жыл бұрын
Does anybody realize just how long it would've taken these Portuguese travellers to get to Japan back then? It must've taken a year or more. Such an epic tale. This should be made into a movie.
@lizardreign
@lizardreign 4 жыл бұрын
Watch Silence from Martin Scorsese, it's about portuguese presence in Japan (not first contact though).
@PrimiusLovin
@PrimiusLovin 4 жыл бұрын
It is part of an epic tale, "The Lusiads', written by one of Portugal's most famous poets, Camões! And it's also probably the literary work that's still responsible for most of the Portuguese national pride today.
@jacintovski
@jacintovski 4 жыл бұрын
@@PrimiusLovin correct.
@michaelsladnick5482
@michaelsladnick5482 4 жыл бұрын
There won't be movies like that until after the Arab Spring spreads to the whole world - until then the studios will keep pumping out sequels and other junk.
@henrikg1388
@henrikg1388 4 жыл бұрын
There is always the 80s classic miniseries Shogun, that takes place when the first non-Portuguese ship reaches Japan.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 жыл бұрын
Hello all! Hope you are enjoying the video. One correction - at one point the Chinese visitor mentions that the Portuguese "do not know about property" - this should be "propriety". Apologies! Enjoy 👍
@marteataca1
@marteataca1 4 жыл бұрын
Subtitles in portuguese please. I really like history and I wanted to follow your channel. I m from Brazil.
@SpencerTaylorOnline
@SpencerTaylorOnline 4 жыл бұрын
How dare you make such a profound mistake! I'm, of course, completely kidding. The frustrating thing about KZbin is that it's quite difficult to make minor corrections on the platform and taking down the video would be crazy. Please keep up the amazing work!
@ken7796
@ken7796 4 жыл бұрын
I am Polish. Japan saved 765 Polish orphans in 1920 and 1922. Around 1920, there were about 200,000 Polish in Siberia. Most of them died. Poland has asked various countries to save orphans. But all countries refused to rescue. Poland finally commissioned Japan to rescue Polish orphans. The Japanese emperor and empress at the time immediately ordered the Japanese to save the Polish orphans.Japan soon began rescue Polish orphans.The orphan was in Siberia. Japanese continued to rescue Polish orphans in Siberia. The smallest orphan that Japan saved was a two-year-old child.The orphan was crying near her dead mother. The Japanese immediately rescued the orphan. Polish orphans were sent to Japan for treatment. Japan fed the Polish orphans a hot meal every day. All Polish orphans have recovered. Japan continued to love Polish orphans very much. All Japanese donated money to save Polish orphans. Polish orphans were always smiling. Japan has successfully returned 765 Polish orphans to Poland. I will not forget this story. Thanks to Japan. God bless Japan.
@yellobird5682
@yellobird5682 4 жыл бұрын
I think everyone should know that at that time the Portuguese had sold Japanese to foreign countries. Japanese slaves were taken to the Portuguese colonies of Malacca, Goa in India, the United States, Mexico, Argentina, and even to Portugal. Hideyoshi Toyotomi noticed and banned the slave trade in Japan and accused the King of Portugal of it, then the king issued a ban, but the Portuguese in colonies in Asia ignored the king's order. Japanese daimyos in Nagasaki, who converted to Christians, took part in the slave trade in exchange for guns, and attacked and destroyed temples and shrines in Nagasaki. For this reason, Japan expelled Christians and traded only with the Netherlands, which did not spread Christianity.
@MilesB1975
@MilesB1975 4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, Hard to imagine a band of Traders who had no concept of personal possessions.
@fakename965
@fakename965 4 жыл бұрын
Criminally underappreciated channel.
@nerthus4685
@nerthus4685 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying underappreciated rather than underrated. I can't stand that.
@Jyyhjyyh
@Jyyhjyyh 4 жыл бұрын
I've been watching these videos for a while and I have to say that the idea behind the channel is so simple but so genius. Like, everyone knows that Leif Eriksson found America but when you watch or read something about the subject you get only the bullet points instead of the original text.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chrishayes5755
@chrishayes5755 4 жыл бұрын
@@VoicesofthePast you're doing a fantastic job, never stop pls
@mattkisewatizidatidah6888
@mattkisewatizidatidah6888 4 жыл бұрын
When Leif came to North America there were people already there...the same First Nations here today. As with “Canada” these nations made treaties with “Leif” and his people......but because of their barbaric ways and no regard and respect for other lives and for breaking the law of peace, were killed off by indigenous warriors on the east coast.
@mver191
@mver191 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattkisewatizidatidah6888 Those same people that killed were invaders themselves. They were not the original inhabitants either. There were atleast 3 waves of people migrating to the Americas before the Europeans came. Each conquering/killing the people before them.
@michaelweston409
@michaelweston409 4 жыл бұрын
It’s voices from the past.
@sergueiignacinskybenitovic3025
@sergueiignacinskybenitovic3025 4 жыл бұрын
Far West Europeans meet Far East Asians. So funny.
@luismarques9280
@luismarques9280 4 жыл бұрын
Not funny but epic, a truly unbelievable journey, Portuguese were the Nasa of those times, incredible voyage...
@sokkababy1487
@sokkababy1487 4 жыл бұрын
far far west is just east
@MustardSkaven
@MustardSkaven 4 жыл бұрын
@Masterffc Iceland?
@KazuyaMithra
@KazuyaMithra 4 жыл бұрын
@@MustardSkaven Iceland is more Arctic than Atlantic/Western though. Portugal is the definition of Atlantic.
@emiriebois2428
@emiriebois2428 4 жыл бұрын
@Masterffc . Nope Ireland or Iceland.
@El-Californio
@El-Californio 4 жыл бұрын
And thus, tempura was born
@LL-bl8hd
@LL-bl8hd 4 жыл бұрын
All that smell of oil makes my mouth water 🤤😋
@ls200076
@ls200076 4 жыл бұрын
@@LL-bl8hd *OPEN the COUNTRY* ~Murica
@Solisium-Channel
@Solisium-Channel 4 жыл бұрын
Char Aznable America: let us free you from that guy in the corner store who gave you the evil eye, slay your mythical demons in the woods and whatever else we can pull out of our butts to impart you some liberty.
@user-lu5us5zk2x
@user-lu5us5zk2x 4 жыл бұрын
カステラもな!
@deadby15
@deadby15 4 жыл бұрын
Also, 金平糖 kompeito/ confectionery.
@nore5992
@nore5992 3 жыл бұрын
Looks at Europe Ships,Guns and Cannons Otomo : "Is it Possible to learn this Power?" Portuguese : *"Not from Buddhist"*
@moritamikamikara3879
@moritamikamikara3879 3 жыл бұрын
*Brings Jesus*
@eatcarpet
@eatcarpet 2 ай бұрын
"Jesus loved guns..."
@LostArchivist
@LostArchivist 4 жыл бұрын
I love hearing of early meetings of East and West, there is something unique of seeing such developed civilizations and what they make of one another. We can learn things about human nature here that I think are largely otherwise obscured. Not to mention on the nature of the systems within the civilizations as they interplay.
@LostArchivist
@LostArchivist 4 жыл бұрын
@Son Gohan And by what standards do we judge such a thing justly? I know of one, but what do you and you who read this say?
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog 4 жыл бұрын
Early meeting? Definitively, Not the backward Japan in the past!
@StarboyXL9
@StarboyXL9 4 жыл бұрын
@@LostArchivist By whether or not they engage in cannibalism for one thing.
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 4 жыл бұрын
Love how easily the Portuguese share musket technology with the Japanese!
@MrMortull
@MrMortull 4 жыл бұрын
Probably just wanted to make that sale. "Oh sure dude, we can teach you how to shoot! You want one? How 'bout TWO?"
@Not-Just-Cars
@Not-Just-Cars 4 жыл бұрын
Chinese already shared
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 4 жыл бұрын
@@Not-Just-Cars Did you watch the video? Considering the whole point of the video was "the first firearms of Japan" (they even had to come up with a new word for this new thing)... what makes you think the Chinese already shared it with them?
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMortull Like the Chinese did with carrier technology? xD They bought an old carrier (from the Russians I think?) and said they would turn it into a hotel... they just pulled it apart and worked out how to make them themselves.
@Not-Just-Cars
@Not-Just-Cars 4 жыл бұрын
@@blazednlovinit we know for sure the Mongols invaded Japan with it
@thatchacre5763
@thatchacre5763 4 жыл бұрын
I feel so privileged to be able to read the original text written in classical Chinese. The version narrated in this video is not a verbatim translation, so, people who are amazed by the phrase "quite harmless", don't take it literally! The original text says "非可怪者矣", meaning, this race of people are just merchants who trade with the stuff they have for the stuff they don't have, THERE'S NOTHING TO BE AMAZED.
@moritamikamikara3879
@moritamikamikara3879 3 жыл бұрын
So a more verbatim translation would be instead of "Quite harmless" it'd be more like "Quite ordinary"
@eatcarpet
@eatcarpet Ай бұрын
So it was more like "These people are not amazing like us Chinese".
@dm1052
@dm1052 4 жыл бұрын
"They show their feelings with no self control" I think this still holds kind of true; being from Guatemala, the time I lived in Europe led me to notice and appreciate the bigger emotional freedom, as I call it, that you have there in terms of expressing and dealing with your emotions in comparison to other cultures.
@Fear_the_Nog
@Fear_the_Nog 4 жыл бұрын
depends on where in Europe. Britain is rather reserved. Scandinavia even more so, although they aren't shy about the strangest things, going naked in public, but they won't talk to you about their feelings......
@capeverdeanprincess4444
@capeverdeanprincess4444 5 ай бұрын
Mostly a Southern European thing(Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece).
@eho6380
@eho6380 2 ай бұрын
No surprise, Guatamalans and the Japanese are still related at the end of the day, it must run in the family.
@Osvath97
@Osvath97 4 жыл бұрын
One can tell how hilariously culturally confused that conversation (with double interpreters on top of it) probably was.
@freechinastopuighurgenocid8716
@freechinastopuighurgenocid8716 4 жыл бұрын
Omg, never was so proud to be a portuguese! I have a Portuguese uncle married with a Japanese woman and they created a wonderful family! Love to all!!!🇵🇹🇯🇵🇵🇹🇯🇵
@jacintovski
@jacintovski 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, man. I'm nutting too 🇵🇹
@nikssu
@nikssu 4 жыл бұрын
Ok?
@naila961
@naila961 4 жыл бұрын
Eh? I'm half Japanese and Nigerian nothing special.
@technoir-1984
@technoir-1984 4 жыл бұрын
In São Paulo city this is very common, a Portuguese descendant with a Japanese descendant.
@naila961
@naila961 4 жыл бұрын
@Scylla Lively I don't understand his enthusiasm that's all.
@AndersonNSilva-mw7kl
@AndersonNSilva-mw7kl 4 жыл бұрын
"If you would like to shoot it, we would love to teach you all its secrets." The Washington Post: Portuguese confirmed responsible for Pearl Harbor!
@MariaMartinez-researcher
@MariaMartinez-researcher 4 жыл бұрын
Well, they were. Altogether with emperor Meiji, the European engineers and technicians he hired, and Japanese tendency to adopt foreign artifacts and perfect them to insane levels.
@chucknorris202
@chucknorris202 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. that sounds like something they would actual write and release for real. Makes it funnier.
@griffinflyer77
@griffinflyer77 4 жыл бұрын
Blah b “sword making and metallurgy remained rather primitive as well”. False. Japanese used advanced methods of folding metal, and had weapons roughly equal to their European equivalents. European armor and weapons were somewhat better, but it must be considered that Japanese metal was both scarcer and in poorer quality than that found in Europe. Only a fool would call the katana, a blade renowned for its speed and cutting ability “primitive”. While not as useful as penetrating armor as a good long sword, it is by no means directly inferior. It is lighter, can be drawn and swung more quickly, and well made katanas were much sharper. Not to mention the blend of hardened and soft steel used in a katana, giving it the hardness of a harder steel without becoming more brittle. In fact, if both combatants were unarmed, a katana would probably be preferable to a long sword. However, if both had armor, a long sword would be the better choice, thanks to the fact it can be half-sworded and used while grappling.
@Andre-gn4sj
@Andre-gn4sj 4 жыл бұрын
@@griffinflyer77 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6XFmWujndChfKM
@griffinflyer77
@griffinflyer77 4 жыл бұрын
André Gløersen “The katana is one of my favorite swords.” “It is great at what it’s meant to do.” “It’s a beasty cutter” Quotes from the video I think you meant to debunk me. If you’d read my comment or watched the video you’d know it doesn’t disagree with me at all.
@Bidmartinlo
@Bidmartinlo 4 жыл бұрын
Portuguese trader: "So yeah, this is a pretty easy weapon for anyone to use really. No need for years of training." Japanese royal: "SIMPLY BARBARIC."
@MustardSkaven
@MustardSkaven 3 жыл бұрын
The Japanese loved guns. This idea they considered them "dishonourable" is Hollywood/Anime crap.
@cool06alt
@cool06alt Жыл бұрын
@@MustardSkaven Indeed, there is even martial art tradition dedicated to shoot gun. It's called Hojutsu. I believe the gun's kata have been used to train pistol shooting skill because it can give you 360 degree awareness.
@Rhaegar19
@Rhaegar19 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Tanegashima would later become the main launch site of JAXA, the Japanese space agency.
@ennui9745
@ennui9745 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how that small island has become the forefront of Japanese technology not just once but twice.
@FromAgonyToLight
@FromAgonyToLight 4 жыл бұрын
“Hello! We’re harmless!...Wanna buy some guns??” This led to Oda Nobunaga’s eventual victory against the greatest cavalry army in Japan, the Takeda cavalry. Changing Japan forever.
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 4 жыл бұрын
"They love our tentacle porn, the weirdos..." -Japanese Chronicler, 16th Century
@mikediamond353
@mikediamond353 4 жыл бұрын
Is there really such a thing?
@jokuvaan5175
@jokuvaan5175 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikediamond353 Oh you sweet summer child
@seneca983
@seneca983 4 жыл бұрын
Does tentacle porn that old exist. At least the famous Fisherman's Wife is from the 1800s if my memory serves me right.
@wadepsilon01
@wadepsilon01 4 жыл бұрын
Hokusai is 19th century
@1N73RC3P7OR
@1N73RC3P7OR 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikediamond353 Ask Kurt Eichenwald.
@silveryuno
@silveryuno 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there traveler, welcome to Japan. We say we don't like foreigners, but love everything weird you have to show us. Portuguese guy here. Great video. Fascinating really.
@Kvasir98
@Kvasir98 4 жыл бұрын
Do one about the "letter from Pero Vaz de Caminha" There are some beautiful first impressions about the native south Americans by the Portuguese.
@galeaobotafogo8792
@galeaobotafogo8792 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful account contained in that letter about another first contact between humans/civilizations who had been completely isolated from each other until that point in time. A video about it as good as this one would be awesome!
@DameOfDiamonds
@DameOfDiamonds 4 жыл бұрын
*Siberians
@latinEU
@latinEU Жыл бұрын
@@DameOfDiamonds educate yourself
@catocall7323
@catocall7323 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who studied TaiChi and Chinese Medicine the firearm demo conversation is pretty entertaining. To rectify the heart in this context seems to have meant to calm yourself and steady your breathing. Which is important for shooting rifles. The lord seems to have understood that closing one eye is related to rectifying the heart. The Portuguese are just trying to tell him to calm down, close one eye and focus on just the target. The emperor is probably educated to tie everything back to his philosophical teachings and keeps doing so.
@moritamikamikara3879
@moritamikamikara3879 3 жыл бұрын
But its not a rifle. is an arquebus
@Victoriacariad
@Victoriacariad 4 жыл бұрын
"The many ways this object can be used in the world cannot possibly be counted..." :/
@rogerr.8507
@rogerr.8507 4 жыл бұрын
1: getting a frisbee or basketball off the roof.
@daniel4647
@daniel4647 4 жыл бұрын
@Toxic Male Interestingly that is sort of true, just destroy the whole universe and there will be no more problems in all of existence. Unless of course you consider non-existence a problem, but then again you wouldn't be around to consider it a problem anymore, so sort of true.
@karldavis6022
@karldavis6022 4 жыл бұрын
@@rogerr.8507 2: Getting a cat unstuck from a tree.
@rogerr.8507
@rogerr.8507 4 жыл бұрын
3: Hammering in a nail.
@Mrjmaxted0291
@Mrjmaxted0291 4 жыл бұрын
@@rogerr.8507 Opening a bottle of beer.
@George-ph6qo
@George-ph6qo 4 жыл бұрын
Always enjoyed history. But the fine details that were missing always troubled me. History is the people and their stories not just dates and bulk events.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 4 жыл бұрын
And the underlying socio-economy, that's the most important and hard to grasp aspect of history.
@snowfrosty1
@snowfrosty1 4 жыл бұрын
@@LuisAldamiz Lmao i see you're still obsessed over "muh economics" huh? Bud, there's so much more to the study of Quantifiable Human Histories. Don't get hung up over one set of aspects/facets.
@romualdcaffeserre6230
@romualdcaffeserre6230 4 жыл бұрын
And people say internet is not the place of petty squamble.
@aliensensum8663
@aliensensum8663 4 жыл бұрын
This is so fascinating. To be able to hear the discussion, their fascination with each other's cultures and differences, and almost a philosophical-like discussion. Very joyous to have found this channel.
@frglee
@frglee 4 жыл бұрын
Being shown the thoughts, writings, philosophy and logic in an ancient culture at a turning point in history is fascinating. Can I just say, I found this rather profound and thoughtful. Unusual for KZbin
@constantdrowsiness4458
@constantdrowsiness4458 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I think "propriety" makes more sense than "property" in that context.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 жыл бұрын
Correct, apologies!
@desanipt
@desanipt 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, traders not understanding property would be something hard to put together.
@keegobricks9734
@keegobricks9734 4 жыл бұрын
That had me SO confused. I'm also not really sure what they meant by "eating with their hands" utensils weren't uncommon in Europe, so why the traders didn't have any is a bit strange.
@X_Numb
@X_Numb 3 жыл бұрын
@@keegobricks9734 At this point in time forks were used mostly within royal courts and noble families in France and Italy, so even though knifes were used to cut food, it would still be picked by hand.
@BlackWolf9988
@BlackWolf9988 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do more videos about europeans in japan? Like the dutch or christianity?
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Yes yes yes yes yes
@Rudy-du2mt
@Rudy-du2mt 4 жыл бұрын
@@VoicesofthePast YES PLEASE !
@Not_An_Alien
@Not_An_Alien 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, something about a sword duel between a European gentleman and a Samurai would be cool.
@itsmidtrib1569
@itsmidtrib1569 4 жыл бұрын
I’m interested to see how Christianity got introduced in Asia. There’s very little information on it in the book of Acts
@230sergio
@230sergio 4 жыл бұрын
@@itsmidtrib1569 well...the Portuguese did it...
@Arroway2357
@Arroway2357 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a historical presentation without moral grandstanding and for presenting an account that acknowledges the importance of remembering the virtues of one's forbears.
@abidabi4363
@abidabi4363 4 жыл бұрын
I've been there to Tanegashima, many times. Great surfing there, especially at the beach where the Portuguese ship ran aground. Solid right hand barrel over sand. It's pretty sick. It's not very far from the Japanese rocket launch site, in the very southern tip. Beautiful island.
@andrewFJ
@andrewFJ 2 ай бұрын
The quality and eloquence of your documentaries trully deserves highest regard, thank you!
@Emppu_T.
@Emppu_T. 4 жыл бұрын
Very insightful and well written! Thanks for sharing it
@001ventura
@001ventura 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, for making this Record🙏
@KrampusDerWilde
@KrampusDerWilde 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most beautiful videos I've seen lately, thank you!
@Hatsuseno1
@Hatsuseno1 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thanks for this.
@4comment0nly76
@4comment0nly76 4 жыл бұрын
if the virtuous achievements of a people's forebears are not made clear to the world, its descendants are to blame
@jusomebody3069
@jusomebody3069 4 жыл бұрын
I think we need a lot more of that these days.
@MrAnperm
@MrAnperm 4 жыл бұрын
Even siblings from the same father often don't turn out the same. Therefore, it is a stretch to claim esteem from distant ancestors, with whom you might not even share direct lineage with.
@kyomademon453
@kyomademon453 4 жыл бұрын
Either you live in the present and achieve things on your own, or you stay at home bitching thinking the past is better claiming someone else's achievements as your own
@jusomebody3069
@jusomebody3069 4 жыл бұрын
You seem oddly upset. Is the idea of finding inspiration in your forefathers so repulsive?
@zhouwu
@zhouwu 4 жыл бұрын
@@jusomebody3069 they are just an odd, upset kind of person. Don't worry about them. They won't get over it, even if you tried to help them.
@OkamiThunder
@OkamiThunder 4 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel it's amazing to see readings of primary sources in video form, rather than someone giving me a summary of the event.
@mhedbary
@mhedbary 4 жыл бұрын
This is art. Beautifully done as always. Love your work. Keep it up.
@Amadeus8484
@Amadeus8484 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese: "Who are these people?" Chinese: "Just smile at them and nod." Japanese: "Does that work?" Chinese: "So far..."
@HeroHoundoom
@HeroHoundoom 4 жыл бұрын
In this video you see a glimpse of the real reason why Japan became so successful : Openness to learning. It is the willingness of the Japanese society and people to change and adapting the old that lead to it becoming a prosperous nation. Even though it took them till the Meiji restoration to fully modernise, you can witness the initial enthusiasm they had during the period discussed in this video.
@ClioMako
@ClioMako 4 жыл бұрын
The Japanese are some of the less willing to be open to anything new, as well as foreign.
@HeroHoundoom
@HeroHoundoom 4 жыл бұрын
@@ClioMako I don't think that's the case in general though. However, I get where you are coming from, for example in the period of the Tokugawa shogunate they closed the ports and shut out foreign influence. However, I made my point to illustrate the fact that the Japanese have for the most part been willing to implement different ideas and practices. Yes you can say they were forced by the Gun ships of Commodore Matthew Perry, but they still made the choice to change in the end through their own volition. Give an explanation to your claim that the Japanese are not open, if you wish.
@roddbroward9876
@roddbroward9876 4 жыл бұрын
LagiNaLangAko23 Either way, they chose to embrace westernization, and that is the main reason Japan was already a quite powerful country in the early 20th century.
@vitalyvolkov1618
@vitalyvolkov1618 4 жыл бұрын
It is a complicated story. While following the politics of sakoku (self isolation) for more than 200 years, Japanese people were eager to learn from 'western barbarians'. It was called 'Dutch learning', because Dutch were the only foreigners who were allowed to make some contact with Japanese through their trade post in Nagasaki. From the late 18 century on, the 'Dutch learning' became something like a craze. Dozens of books on various subjects (sciences, arts, technology, medicine, with the exception of Christianity) got translated into Japanese. There were even private academies for the 'Dutch learning'. Of course, this knowledge was mostly limited to upper classes (however, there were even a kind of popular books like 'Everything about western barbarians'). Hence, by 1853 when commodere Perry arrived, a lot of Japanese had at least some idea what they were representing. I don't believe that Japan would have been able to achieve progress after the Meiji restoration without the 'Dutch learning' that basically prepared Japanese. It was very different from the Chinese mentality whereby 'There is no light beyond the Sun, there is no source of knowledge beyond China' was seen as principle.
@Twisthle
@Twisthle 4 жыл бұрын
@@ClioMako They used to be, and they fought reactionary and traditionalist forces in the Meiji restoration to do so. Sure they are reactionary now, and that's why they are not as relevant. Reactionary and right wing politics destroys civilizations by making people jerk off to an idolized past instead of doing anythinf actually useful. They were crushed then, they must be crushed now
@luigigrazioli92
@luigigrazioli92 3 жыл бұрын
this whole channel is amazing
@kaltonian
@kaltonian 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, That was an amazing tale, exspecially the introduction of the musket, it must of blown there minds, (not literally), but the musket must of seemed like magic at first until properly understood, the squinting of the eye sounds like it really baffled them, to close ones eye & still hit the target. Brilliant tale.
@adamwelch4336
@adamwelch4336 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel!💘 historic accounts are the best! First perspective! Best perspective!
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 жыл бұрын
Hurrah!
@ewok40k
@ewok40k 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, highlighting very important historical event. No muskets would probably mean much longer internecine warfare in Japan, because first commander to master use of firearms, namely Oda Nobunaga got so successful he got unification of Japan started.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@munnypoltric
@munnypoltric 4 жыл бұрын
unification is not a positive thing. Are you Borg?
@ewok40k
@ewok40k 4 жыл бұрын
@@munnypoltric constant warfare is worse
@moritamikamikara3879
@moritamikamikara3879 3 жыл бұрын
@@munnypoltric Japan is one nation of one people. It would make sense that they exist within one state. The only exception I can think of is that once Japan was unified (And even to an extent before) the Ainu people of Hokkaido were subjugated under Japanese rule And the Ainu and the Japanese are not one nation of one people
@jona.scholt4362
@jona.scholt4362 3 жыл бұрын
I have become addicted to these videos. They are amazing. It without good narration they would be unwatchable. Going to binge some more !
@sunsettersix6993
@sunsettersix6993 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating to hear the words of people who lived centuries ago. Such a blessing.
@khaccanhle1930
@khaccanhle1930 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that as soon as they saw the power of a gun, they instantly realized a multiple of applications it could be used for.
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog 4 жыл бұрын
Súng đó của Đại việt phát minh ra năm 1516, năm 1533 bọn Bồ tới Việt Nam mua súng rồi đem qua nhật bản đó
@ToastytheG
@ToastytheG 4 жыл бұрын
And to think there are people who want to ban 600 year old technology that has brought so many peoples of earth together. And has shaped so many movements apart. Making knowledge illegal is the fastest way into the next dark age.
@SilverforceX
@SilverforceX 4 жыл бұрын
You know the first Portugal record of Japanese, "they are naturally intelligent".
@bellycurious
@bellycurious 4 жыл бұрын
@@ToastytheG, you know what else brings people together? A meal, a football games. No needs of guns.
@tn_bluestem
@tn_bluestem 4 жыл бұрын
@@bellycurious easy meal in shooting a deer that happens to also be ravaging your rice
@TwentythreePER
@TwentythreePER 4 жыл бұрын
What an amazing record and such an interesting story. I have often thought of people's reaction when they first saw firearms and this account is incredibly detailed. I would love more of this kind of account.
@MrSomebodyyy
@MrSomebodyyy 4 жыл бұрын
What an awesome video! Finally something truly interesting on KZbin. Liked and subbed.
@porten1277
@porten1277 4 жыл бұрын
WOW, incredible video, my ming is ringing from your voice and his words!
@rubennunes708
@rubennunes708 4 жыл бұрын
Really cool. You should do Fernão Mendes Pinto's account of the contact, he was one of the first Portuguese in Japan, if we are to believe his writings.
@CrackedCandy
@CrackedCandy 4 жыл бұрын
"Ok, aim small, miss small." "If one were to focus their inner being and center all their thoughts on that which is most important in the moment, then that stone of soft metal will take your focus with it as it flies through the heavens and deposit itself in the inner workings of that which you wish to destroy in its smallest of hidden places."
@rodneyd4388
@rodneyd4388 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the reading. I love history and first hand accounts. I'm very grateful to have found your channel and that you have produced such pleasant content. I have subscribed and will be listening to more of your material in the future. Thanks again.
@richv6014
@richv6014 4 жыл бұрын
This was very relaxing and I learnt something new. Watched the whole thing (that’s rare). Keep making vids!
@SciFi2285
@SciFi2285 4 жыл бұрын
Those Japanese paintings depicting the arrival of the Portuguese are amazing. Incredibly vibrant and bright.
@WiseSilverWolf
@WiseSilverWolf 4 жыл бұрын
It must have seemed like a very important event to the Japanese being able to acquire firearms from the Portuguese, similar to Prometheus handing mankind fire in Greek mythology.
@roddbroward9876
@roddbroward9876 4 жыл бұрын
It pretty much made unifying Japan possible
@WiseSilverWolf
@WiseSilverWolf 4 жыл бұрын
@Roger Dodger I guess that the Chinese knew the power behind guns and didnt want a potential rival having access to them. Neat info, I totally overlooked that China info.
@xenotypos
@xenotypos 4 жыл бұрын
Apart from cannons (for naval battles and sieges), firearms weren't that overpowered in the 16th century. With the right strategy (like volley fire), it could be deadly, but only like any new weapon until then. Weirdly, as far as I know the Japanese didn't really use cannons. Just arquebuses. They'll pay it dearly in Korea later (Koreans that used cannons (and won every naval engagement) but not arquebuses... still using bows and stuff).
@ousamadearu5960
@ousamadearu5960 4 жыл бұрын
@mendaix more like Britain and France as China and Japan were only allies because of their shared religion(Buddhism), but their priority was always Korea.
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog 4 жыл бұрын
These guns were Vietnamese matchlocks, the Portuguese travelers came to Vietnam in 1533, bought these guns and brought them to Japan.
@BBD1
@BBD1 4 жыл бұрын
Love this kind of stuff, thanks for the video :)
@rocambolli
@rocambolli 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect and beautifully made.
@Cachicochip
@Cachicochip 4 жыл бұрын
Portuguese: You know the number 17 player that played for Manchester United? Japanese: *NANI???*
@sererick7031
@sererick7031 3 жыл бұрын
nice one 😂
@iamra8826
@iamra8826 4 жыл бұрын
Europeans and East Asians have a lot in common, it’s difficult to not recognise the genius in them both
@stynershiner1854
@stynershiner1854 Жыл бұрын
All humans are similar. Only separated by artificial creations.
@DerpyDo
@DerpyDo 4 жыл бұрын
I got my free month trial of Magellan! Thanks Voices From the Past! I can geek out on documentaries! 💜
@sizzlezohan9997
@sizzlezohan9997 4 жыл бұрын
this was a thoroughly interesting, well structured piece on a really interesting point of history. also this guys voice is really relaxing yknow im subbed now
@latinEU
@latinEU Жыл бұрын
We Portuguese were poorly perceived by narrator. One could say he thought we just happen to get there, randomly. Instead we were using the stars to guide us, our sailors had immense knowledge in several fields and that's how we roamed the seven seas.
@magnusengeseth5060
@magnusengeseth5060 2 жыл бұрын
"Tokitaka's interest lay neither in the wooden stock nor in the ornament, but in the way the weapon could be used in times of war." At first I thought this sentence perfectly described why this dude was the dude in charge of the area, but apparently he was only 15 years old at the time. I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that this was a particularly cut-throat period of Japanese history where this kind of pragmatism is either so integral for those that want to stay rulers that even a boy king understands this during his first year of direct rule, or that this is some kind of Japanese Alexander the Great who has already managed to kill off his dad and taken charge at 15 due to impatience.
@cool06alt
@cool06alt Жыл бұрын
His territory was taken by some warlords who basically wanted to become the next Daimyo. If you read the commentary of the text, not long after his first batch of successful musket reproduction he basically reconquer his lost island. www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:789497/FULLTEXT01.pdf
@chrisrosenkreuz23
@chrisrosenkreuz23 4 жыл бұрын
your channel is excellent! thank you kindly!
@ArturoAlbero
@ArturoAlbero 4 жыл бұрын
Great story! I loved the way of telling it, thank you for this awesome video :)
@flawlessnika7117
@flawlessnika7117 4 жыл бұрын
This is oddly wholesome
@jamespoynor9511
@jamespoynor9511 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Content.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@evalac2840
@evalac2840 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the story
@redbeef92
@redbeef92 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing channel, keep the great work up!
@bigschoolgaming8002
@bigschoolgaming8002 6 ай бұрын
Eu sou uma pessoa do Japão. O povo japonês tem grande respeito pelo Infante D. Henrique.
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