Boost Game FPS Automatically with Advanced Optimus!

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@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
2:46 The bottom of the graph should read "milliseconds" and not "frames per second"!
@contentdeleted4978
@contentdeleted4978 2 жыл бұрын
My laptop only shows 3d setting
@muhammadalif3827
@muhammadalif3827 2 жыл бұрын
@@contentdeleted4978 You may need to try updating the integrated graphics drivers. I've experienced the same problem and even worst. when I turn on the hybrid mode(optimus) on my legion 7i, the display becomes stuttering. and yep, the igpu doesn't seems to work because of the missing intel uhd driver. Now I have the options to select the gpu drives in Nvidia display mode settings after the update. hope this help.
@DariusOD
@DariusOD Жыл бұрын
I don't have that option in my Nvidia Control panel
@jonieboi69
@jonieboi69 Жыл бұрын
@@DariusOD i dont have it either
@DariusOD
@DariusOD Жыл бұрын
@@jonieboi69 I got it now
@RayenPlays
@RayenPlays 2 жыл бұрын
It's like optimus, but more advanced 🥁
@riichobamin7612
@riichobamin7612 2 жыл бұрын
Bad-dum-tsss
@ijanggg8252
@ijanggg8252 2 жыл бұрын
Autobot ....roll out !
@HAWKbest
@HAWKbest 2 жыл бұрын
Great repeat, thank you very much!
@ドロシールイーズ
@ドロシールイーズ 2 жыл бұрын
Uhh rrr ee eehh aay
@johnlucas6683
@johnlucas6683 2 жыл бұрын
Optimus.. prime?
@staticv3570
@staticv3570 2 жыл бұрын
It would've been nice to see a performance comparison between "Switch automatically" (Advanced Optimus) and "Nvidia GPU only". In theory they should be identical, but just for peace of mind, to know that the feature works as intended.
@davidpinheiro5295
@davidpinheiro5295 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, and a comparison to the amd equivalent in terms of performance increase and latency reduction as well as supported games both with advanced optimus and standard mux switching
@Supcharged
@Supcharged 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidpinheiro5295 AMD's equivalent is still very new and now doesn't even exist on any laptop on the market, not even the new asus g14. The first model should be the Alienware m17 R5, which has the option of a 6850m XT or 3080ti.
@profiyntroz5186
@profiyntroz5186 2 жыл бұрын
@@Supcharged whats the name of amd equiualent?
@Supcharged
@Supcharged 2 жыл бұрын
@@profiyntroz5186 Smart Access Graphics.
@JoshCravesTech
@JoshCravesTech 2 жыл бұрын
In my own tests between the two options, I found no difference other than margin of error
@masx4813
@masx4813 2 жыл бұрын
Our man Jarrod's never tired to give us information about gaming laptops 💪 keep it up
@GhostSlayerYT
@GhostSlayerYT 2 жыл бұрын
It's literally a sponsored video 😑
@mrducky179
@mrducky179 2 жыл бұрын
i mean its his job
@zenerdiode007
@zenerdiode007 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, i read it as tried😂...no offense but videos are definitely great
@a-manthegeneral
@a-manthegeneral 2 жыл бұрын
It's nothing compared to RGB boost 😎
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
We'll have to cover that one in a future video 🤔
@Nkit_1
@Nkit_1 2 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech how bout a April fools video
@NMinatoS
@NMinatoS 2 жыл бұрын
One thing to note is that with the reboot method, you effectively disable the igpu meaning it wont "steal" a single bit of the CPU power budget. Basically the CPU will have higher headroom to boost and such. I've seen that with the 5800H for example, it's pretty easy to hit the CPU EDC (current) wall with the igpu enabled. Therefore advanced optimus has the benefit of allowing you to still use the iGPU which in the end is nice, if you want to assign it to background tasks and reduce the load on the nvidia gpu. For example you can have the iGPU running wallpaper engine on your 2 monitor setup while you're gaming with the nvidia one.
@sanelb1147
@sanelb1147 Жыл бұрын
I am thinking , it makes sense, sinds igpu is on cpu, disabling it will make the cpu less hot as wel which won't throttle back and u can use turbo most times
@rubdulbah3201
@rubdulbah3201 2 жыл бұрын
I need to ask is advanced Optimus a feature that is only included with specific new laptops? Or can we update the Nvidia drivers on our older 3060 laptops to get advanced Optimus?
@profiyntroz5186
@profiyntroz5186 2 жыл бұрын
only included in specific laptops, no updates can bring that
@noway9880
@noway9880 2 жыл бұрын
Advanced Optimus is just a marketing term. It's one of many names for a hardware component referred to as a MUX Switch.
@profiyntroz5186
@profiyntroz5186 2 жыл бұрын
@@noway9880 Advanced optimus is technology, not a MUX switch...
@rubdulbah3201
@rubdulbah3201 2 жыл бұрын
What if the laptop itself already has a MUX switch like the lenovo legion series or the eluctronics laptops that jarrod has shown in the past.
@niebuhr6197
@niebuhr6197 2 жыл бұрын
@@noway9880 it does need a multiplexer to handle video sources
@fraserbond6989
@fraserbond6989 2 жыл бұрын
Got a Dell G15 last week thanks to your videos, really appreciate the work!
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
Cool hope it's going well!
@XaRcaNecKX
@XaRcaNecKX 2 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech Does this feature is going to be available in the G15?
@tylerstravis
@tylerstravis 2 ай бұрын
Does Advanced Optimus allow you to use the GPU for the USB-C port?
@thesupernad
@thesupernad 2 жыл бұрын
Nvidia has been using the same control panel interface for 20 years.
@huybui871
@huybui871 2 жыл бұрын
finally, I have waited a long time to see Advanced Optimus
@naomarik
@naomarik 2 жыл бұрын
Actually tested this out and hybrid mode in vantage. With hybrid mode on and advanced optimus, the integrated GPU is still powered on but is 0% utilized. With Optimus it will use both integrated/discreet as you know. Disabling Hybrid mode and restarting, the integrated GPU is not detected and I get 10 more watts of power limit. So: Advanced Optimus = 80 watts Hybrid mode off = 90 watts 10 extra watts resulted in a 15 FPS increase in Diablo 2 Resurrected. Saw all this with MSI overlay and having both GPU information visible.
@keyable
@keyable Жыл бұрын
If you turn off Hybrid Mode, how do u activate only iGPU to save battery while not gaming?
@TechTyrial
@TechTyrial 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully explained. Your video's have such a nice flow. Keeps you watching.
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@abhaskumarpalo3165
@abhaskumarpalo3165 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that u Said at the beginning of the video proves your honesty and hardwrk. Grt work jarrod
@sergey128
@sergey128 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you Jarrod, I also leave Optimus activated, I leave the PC to decide which activity to perform based on the game I am playing, if the integrated card, or the dedicated one, does not cause me any annoyance, also because, 'as you mentioned, it is not convenient to tinker every time, to get a few more frames of quality.
@boppernostopper8598
@boppernostopper8598 2 жыл бұрын
Advanced optimus is worth using. Regular optimus is not just lile jarrod says
@toshankharumnuid4634
@toshankharumnuid4634 2 жыл бұрын
Is this a feature that can be enabled via an update, i.e., will advanced optimus be available to optimus laptops? Or is it only for newer laptops?
@AvirajSinghRawat
@AvirajSinghRawat 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same query.... Exactly
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 2 жыл бұрын
It needs a MUX switch and a Nvidia RTX GPU at the minimum; you can’t just add it via a software update.
@toshankharumnuid4634
@toshankharumnuid4634 2 жыл бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 yea, but i mean for last year's 3070 laptops for instance
@AvirajSinghRawat
@AvirajSinghRawat 2 жыл бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 and I have the legion 5 Pro which has both
@muhammadshaffkhilji1574
@muhammadshaffkhilji1574 2 жыл бұрын
@@AvirajSinghRawat so how much battery life you get while watching youtube Optimus on Vs off On 60hz vs 165hz ?
@RedstoneinventeArmoredGuy
@RedstoneinventeArmoredGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarrod! Can we get more benchmarks for gaming laptops on unity or unreal applications? I can prepare test scenes if needed. Would be better for game Devs who need a new laptop
@leledumbo
@leledumbo 2 жыл бұрын
Should be implemented at hardware or driver level, away from OS specifics.
@grandmasterxam
@grandmasterxam 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed but itll never happen unless its only on specific laptops like razers or asus. Other than that I dont see it happening
@richarddcrossley
@richarddcrossley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I had selected Optimus on my x17 3070 and didn’t realise it was hammering performance as thought that was the correct way to use advanced Optimus. Will swap it over asap and look forward to frame rate increases!
@indo3052
@indo3052 2 жыл бұрын
But isnt that the only way to ensure no tearing via adaptiv sync? I thought u had to use advanced optimus to get adaptive sync?
@sanelb1147
@sanelb1147 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's best to disable igpu in bios, since it's bound to cpu , it will have less heat and will allow cpu to use it's max potential during turbo and won't throttle back
@darkzak47
@darkzak47 2 жыл бұрын
Me pre-video: “I don’t know what a MUX switch is but Jared says I need one” Me post video: Aha!
@profiyntroz5186
@profiyntroz5186 2 жыл бұрын
heh
@skanderbecheikh7607
@skanderbecheikh7607 2 жыл бұрын
I have a "dumb" question but need to ask it. So the difference between Optimus and advanced optimus is the reboot thingy, but both use the same hardware feature which is the MUX switch ? In short you need a mux switch to use Advanced optimus as well ?
@ayanpande6821
@ayanpande6821 2 жыл бұрын
Optimus still passes frames through the igpu, however, advanced optimus is effectively an automatic, instant mux switch. I don't know about hardware requirements but i think it would be reasonable to assume that laptops with advanced optimus will have similar hardware to a mux switch.
@profiyntroz5186
@profiyntroz5186 2 жыл бұрын
ofcourse you do
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
yes. my understanding is that a mux switch is required for Advanced Optimus to work.
@schikey2076
@schikey2076 2 жыл бұрын
finally a video that actually tested advance optimus... last year i seen alot of techtubers talking about it but never testing it .... i wonder if you can compare Mux vs Advance optimus
@jonno501
@jonno501 2 жыл бұрын
This is all great - as was finding hard to get the difference between the Optimus setting and the Automatic select setting. However... when connecting the blade to an external screen (via USB-C to Display Port - 120hz 4K cable), what happens then? It seems that it then has to go through iGPU because the Automatic select and DGPU options are greyed out and you can only select the Optimus setting. But can you preselect DGPU only before you connect the laptop - or do you have to then set to DGPU only in the bios then? I have the 11th gen 3080 15" model and when I have benchmarked on Timespy the scores seem to suggest that the external mointor is a direct connection to the DGPU as I see no difference in performance when DGPU only option is selected when playing on the laptop screen (c. 10500 score each time) vs when Optimus is selected when playing on an external monitor.... it's so confusing!
@dampflokfreund
@dampflokfreund 2 жыл бұрын
HDMI/Display-ports are attached to the dGPU only in recent Optimus enabled laptops, so yeah no options for switching there. It will automatically run on the dGPU only using Optimus. Using external monitors with Optimus laptops is such a hassle though, because as soon as you disconnect the screen, the dGPU will stay active meaning you have to reboot /sign out and in again or it will be a huge battery drain. If you are on Windows 10, there is even annoying stuttering in second screen only mode that is fixed by restarting / sign out and in.
@saturnotaku
@saturnotaku 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Blade with Advanced Optimus. With the laptop screen running and AO on automatic, the external outputs are routed through the iGPU. If you turn the laptop display off and only run on external, it shifts to running directly off the dGPU. I hesitate to call this a limitation but I wouldn’t call this behavior necessarily ideal.
@jonno501
@jonno501 2 жыл бұрын
@@dampflokfreund Thanks! I didn't know that - so the direct link to the DGPU is dependent on whether using the laptop screen only, laptop screen and external monitor, or shutting the lid so only the external monitor is used... I think the confusion is from not having anything to tell you if the DGPU is directly connected to the screen or via IGPU depending on those different scenarios... hope someone at NVIDIA reads this and takes note...
@jonno501
@jonno501 2 жыл бұрын
@@saturnotaku Yes definitely not ideal, I can't understand why the options to select what you want get taken away when you connect to an external monitor...
@ThunderTaco206
@ThunderTaco206 2 жыл бұрын
I always play plugged in, and I don't particularly trust Advanced Optimus to reliably switch. I just went into BIOS and set it to dGPU only, and never have to think about it.
@indo3052
@indo3052 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats what i woukd do too.
@indo3052
@indo3052 2 жыл бұрын
But then what about screen tear? Dont u need ao enabled to have adaptive sync?
@ThunderTaco206
@ThunderTaco206 2 жыл бұрын
@@indo3052 As long as your frames aren't going above your screens refresh rate you shouldn't have any problems with screen tearing, so you won't need v-sync. And AO has nothing to do with that anyway. All AO does is dynamically switch between integrated and dedicated graphics for gaming. If you turn off AO you can go into graphics settings and choose the dGPU for gaming.
@indo3052
@indo3052 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderTaco206 so if i buy the ge67hx oled 240hz, i dont need gsync?
@ThunderTaco206
@ThunderTaco206 2 жыл бұрын
@@indo3052 As long as your framerate stays below your refresh rate, you'll be fine. Some games are optimized incredibly wel, like Fortnite. But the games themselves typically have a v-sync option in the graphics settings. G-sync isn't necessary.
@ahmedghoraba2153
@ahmedghoraba2153 2 жыл бұрын
I have an IdeaPad gaming 3 2021 with the spec sheet saying it has advanced Optimus with the RTX 3060 model that I have and for some reason, I can't find anything about it in the Nvidia control panel or Lenovo vantage ........ SO is it just a mistake or there is something I am missing ????
@waynechriss
@waynechriss 2 жыл бұрын
3:53 Anyone else not have the "Manage Display mode" on the left hand side of the Nvidia Control Panel? I have the Legion 5 Pro (which is supposed to be supported with AO) and don't have this setting.
@ohhinikki7944
@ohhinikki7944 2 жыл бұрын
tysm for this explanation. Ive had my laptop for a few months now and did the research before buying it and everything using ur videos but since getting it ive forgotten 🤣 this video wasnt too long, cleared up everything i questioned and was very helpful so thanksss ♥
@nirmalkumar7941
@nirmalkumar7941 Жыл бұрын
same here , buy and forget everything
@vanya377
@vanya377 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Just got my X17R2 but I didn't know what was Advanced Optimus all about. In fact, before everything, I watched your X17R2 review and this video even though I'm a tech nerd, it's a must in order to know your machine better! Thank you a lot!
@johnsnow_0180
@johnsnow_0180 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I am just getting confused with the conflict between software Mux Switch control and Nvidia control panel, not to even mention the hybrid modes offered in some laptops such as Vantage in Legion. For example if you tick "hybrid mode" in the software but in the Nvidia control panel tick "Nvidia GPU only" which one will have priority? What happens after reboot? Secondly there are some conflicting experiences/understanding with hybrid modes whereby some users report issues with performance. Some also say you should only activate hybrid mode when gaming on battery while others say hybrid mode allow the laptop to switch to dedicated GPU automatically when gaming so no need to game on battery. It is also unclear if a reboot is needed as the laptop doesn't require it when switching on and off. I find these videos extremely helpful and I think would be great to do a proper review comparison of Optimus, Advanced Optimus, Mux Switch, Hybrid Mode, Reboot/Not reboot and how some big laptop brands differ regarding this. I am still more or less confused about what is the best, how to conciliate Mux switch software with Nvidia control panel and how reboots affects this. Thank you.
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
I have a review coming up on Friday for the Legion 5i Pro that explains how it all works between Vantage and NVIDIA.
@Fulded
@Fulded 2 жыл бұрын
What about GTX10 and RTX20 series MaxQ based laptops ? Will they be supported as well ?
@محمدالدخيل-ر5ل
@محمدالدخيل-ر5ل 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u for the explanation. NOW I NEED THE LAPTOP !!
@vmafarah9473
@vmafarah9473 2 жыл бұрын
From this point onwards, I will watch your vid skeptically.
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
You do you mate (though I'd argue you watch anyone's videos using your brain), Advanced Optimus is legitimately a great feature and you're only going to see it being more common going forward.
@vmafarah9473
@vmafarah9473 2 жыл бұрын
Just joking, mate. I started watching your videos back then, when you compared 6th gen i7 vs 7th gen.watched over 90% of your content.some videos more than twice.But I hate companies sponsoring channels that reviews their products. It may unknowingly affect the review.
@at5665
@at5665 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review about the ldeapad gaming 3 with rtx 3060 and Ryzen 5600h
@salttrader4113
@salttrader4113 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I always disable Optimus. My laptop is always plugged in, don't see a point of running a gaming laptop on battery frankly!
@RandomGamerwithPotatoisMyName
@RandomGamerwithPotatoisMyName 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there. I've got a question. When I deactivated Optimus, during gameplay,the screen varies between high and low brightness depending on surrounding. Why does this happen. I deactivated auto brightness as well.
@shefshyguy2
@shefshyguy2 Жыл бұрын
Same thing I leave my laptop on charge but I still don’t know how to turn off Optimus
@TheGrinta
@TheGrinta 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jarrod! Great video, I was actually looking for some more in depth info about the advanced optimus. My laptop (gigabyte g5 kd) doesn't have it and I was wondering if you can not only review this (imho) really good laptop but also test it with an external laptop to see how much more frames you can get in different games. Also, i noticed that when you are testing fortnite you are not showing the results in performance mode. Since a lot of people play this game in a competitive way, they all use this graphical setting which boosts your fps by a lot :)
@razorgcy
@razorgcy 2 жыл бұрын
So G-Sync turns on when you're in Automatic Select mode when you open a game? Or is it available only in "Discreet GPU only" mode? Also, I'm glad that the display doesn't turn off for a second during the mode switches.
@canson1988
@canson1988 9 ай бұрын
Any info on this?
@Seno_was_taken
@Seno_was_taken 6 ай бұрын
I couldn't have ever known that advanced Optimus is Optimus but more advanced
@GigaPrime14900
@GigaPrime14900 Жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear, after turning it on, my pc transformed into a human size robot and now keeps saying "Calling all Autobots".
@giancarlopicassoaraya8390
@giancarlopicassoaraya8390 2 жыл бұрын
The Gsync works better with Advance Optimus or dedicate Graphic?. I have the Alienware X17 R2 rtx 3080ti.
@marvelxcodes
@marvelxcodes 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks😊
@Masmon
@Masmon 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that we can use the integrated graphics power as a support for the dedicated graphics to get more 5-10 fps.
@Yuriyalloween
@Yuriyalloween 2 жыл бұрын
That would be very nice.
@HURSAs
@HURSAs 2 жыл бұрын
Some FACTS about Advanced Optimus and some of the 2021 Lenovo Legion 5 / 5 Pro / 7 with AMD 5000H CPU and nVidia 3000 GPU series : 1) It's not supported on most of the systems, even if they announced it as a main feature in the Lenovo Legion 2021 Event on March 5, 2021 - there is a video of it on KZbin - the segment about Advanced Optimus starts at 1:29:42. The support can be easily checked in the System information tab in Help menu in the nVidia Control Panel. Only "Hybrid Mode" works with both dGPU + iGPU and you still need to reboot the system like a standart old school Optimus; 2) AO (Advanced Optimus) works on Intel Systems though; 3) Till today, there is no BIOS update that can enable Advanced Optimus in these AMD systems above, Lenovo Vantage "Hybrid mode" is the only option; 4) Specifically about Chaos VRay Benchmark v. 5.01 for the Rendering guys in the crowd: After testing my AMD 5800H + RTX 3070 (130Watt) in Hybrid Mode turned ON (which connects the AMD Radeon iGPU directly to the monitor for basic Software tasks) both scores - from the CPU only test & from the RTX Nvidia Raytracing test are showing better performance than the Switched OFF Hybrid mode - I am not exatly sure why - but my guess is that having the descrete Nvidia GPU connected directly to the Display (with iGPU turned fully OFF) takes on average more resources like overall Power consumption & Memory Allocation for User Interface away from the CPU and away from the Nvidia Raytracing Compute units in rendering compute intensive tasks than using the much more efficient integrated Radeon Graphics in the Ryzen 5800H to run the Display in general - the difference is ~ +5% Compute Performance in favor of the Hybrid Mode (iGPU + dGPU) corresponding to the old school nVidia Optimus Feature). 5)Especially for Gaming - "Hybrid Mode" turned OFF brings the best of the nVidia dedicated GPU.... BUT, depending on the nVidia drivers, some Apps like Discord or Blizzard Launcher with "Hardware Acceleration" option turned ON, underperform or even crash. I recommend turning off automatic Windows Drivers update by changing the "Device Installation Settings" in Windows 10/11 from "YES" to "NO" and backup before testing every new nVidia and AMD graphics driver, which is not recommended in the Lenovo Supported Drivers list. There is a whole thread of Comments in the Lenovo Forums by user called "N26" that you can check for more info -> "Lenovo Legion 5 PRO 16ACH6H - Advanced optimus support"
@frz3505
@frz3505 2 жыл бұрын
Hye jarrod, what’s the cheapest laptop to play flight simulator that delivered minimum of 60 fps on high setting?
@johnlinks
@johnlinks 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarrod, looking for recommendations on a new laptop this year. Upgrading my Dell with GTX 1060 that's 6 years old. Looking at XMG/Eluktronics, razer, zephyrus g14, and Lenovo legion 5/i5? Do you have any ideas. Fairly decent budget. Let me know what you think
@rauliuxaa
@rauliuxaa 9 ай бұрын
There's no manage display mode on the Nvdia control panel.
@harson7908
@harson7908 8 ай бұрын
Have you figured out this issue yet?
@rauliuxaa
@rauliuxaa 8 ай бұрын
@@harson7908 sadly,nope
@eclipse-xg6my
@eclipse-xg6my 2 жыл бұрын
I dont have this option on my laptop, how do i switch to my dedicated gpu withoout it?
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
It will depend on your laptop whether you can or not. I have a video explaining it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ66mpiplJmietU
@eclipse-xg6my
@eclipse-xg6my 2 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech so is there any way at all I can disable it?
@sussysalad
@sussysalad 2 жыл бұрын
Do GTX 16 series laptop gpus support or will support it? I got a gtx 1660Ti in a ASUS ROG laptop.
@pathway1
@pathway1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jarrod, what's your take on the new Mac mini pro's performance versus window PCs/laptop? what's the PC combination equivalent of it? I wanna stay with Windows and I'm due for an upgrade, but idk enough about AMD, Intel, and Nvidia to make a good purchase and PC build. Would love for some help on this, thanks!
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation and helped me clear my mind a bit. However, really frustrated with my Legion 5i Pro Gen 7 as Advanced Optimus doesn't work at all when using external screens. Or at least mine as they're connected through a TB3 dock. It's locked on Optimus, so being crippled here.
@afc8981
@afc8981 2 жыл бұрын
TB3/4 routes the display data to the TB controller on the CPU which sends that data to the iGPU, which is why the laptop has to use Optimus when accessing the dGPU. If you want to use the dGPU with an external monitor, you'll have to connect that monitor to a dedicated HDMI/DP port on the laptop. Most dedicated HDMI and DP ports are connected directly to the dGPU.
@axeldelrod6669
@axeldelrod6669 2 жыл бұрын
@@afc8981 Yeah, I understood that, thanks. It's just a bit frustrating and a bit surprised TB as a technology is so limited in this regard. You a massive bandwidth connector perfect for multiple display outputs, but you will never be able to use them without your CPU crippling what your GPU would be capable of. It seems like a big design flaw.
@tiramisu8359
@tiramisu8359 Жыл бұрын
I used to use advanced optimus, but the GPU switch when starting game causing freeze couple seconds, it annoys me as frequent short-time gamer on and off. So I just use old-optimus without freeze when DGPU activated, much more seamless. I don't see much FPS difference too.
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech Жыл бұрын
Yeah. There are still some issues when set to auto for sure. We usually use it for a mux switch that doesn't require a reboot e.g. setting to dgpu and then changing to optimus, rather than leaving on auto.
@Hk-uw8my
@Hk-uw8my Жыл бұрын
It is not freezing, but actually taking the time to enable the dgpu if it has been sleeping and then proceed to properly wire it to the screen. We dont have the technology to make it instant yet but i agree if you are trying to troubleshoot games and need to start them multiple times then it can eventually get annoying.
@kevindiego9261
@kevindiego9261 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarrod! I want to let you know I LOVE your tech reviews and they’ve been helping me make smart decisions when buying tech. Keep up the good work mate 👏
@GatoPaint
@GatoPaint 2 жыл бұрын
will this be available for last year laptops?
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
My legion 5 with 3060 got it after an update after my review, but my understanding was they always planned to have it, I think it needs certain hardware so I wouldn't expect to see it come to many more if any older models - just my guess though
@GatoPaint
@GatoPaint 2 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech I have the 5 pro with the 3070, will I get the update ?
@D3vilK1ng
@D3vilK1ng 2 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech That's strange, I have the Legion 5 Pro (AMD) with 3070 but no advanced optimus option.
@jackdiddIey
@jackdiddIey 2 жыл бұрын
@@D3vilK1ng same
@OFC_
@OFC_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@D3vilK1ng same
@cptwhite
@cptwhite 2 жыл бұрын
Weren't laptops doing this over 10 years ago with optimus technology. I remember an old Acer laptop I had that a low end nvidia dGPU and onboard intel. Could have sworn it was meant to auto switch when you rana game....
@60DollarCodger
@60DollarCodger 2 жыл бұрын
You're half right 🙂 Vanilla Optimus has always meant to switch between iGPU and dGPU for the *workload*. However, the signal still needed to go through the iGPU and that causes a performance and latency hit. A "manual" mux switch solves that, but you have to reboot. What Advanced Optimus does is switch the workload AND automatically bypasses the iGPU (like manual mux)... BUT you don't have to reboot. It's the best way to not have to think about anything and just always have optimal performance. 👍
@cptwhite
@cptwhite 2 жыл бұрын
@@60DollarCodger thanks for clarifying!
@60DollarCodger
@60DollarCodger 2 жыл бұрын
@@cptwhite sure thing
@eneremy2321
@eneremy2321 2 жыл бұрын
4:31 I don't have that option how can I activate it?
@kickconnection83
@kickconnection83 2 жыл бұрын
Advanced Optimus Prime! Graphics cards! Let's roll out!
@MrNiko70370
@MrNiko70370 6 ай бұрын
Hey! Nice, but how i can activate G-syc? Only with dGPU mode? Its not available in adv Optimus?
@leeli4692
@leeli4692 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have any of these laptops you showcase since realistically I can't buy them all, but I like watching your videos it's really kinda entertaining and well made on my part so good job as always.
@derirahmatdi3467
@derirahmatdi3467 Жыл бұрын
dude, i watch this video because suddenly i get an armoury crate update, there is a option for nvdia advance optimus on gtx 1650, get it on old tuf fx505dt, and i have this weird icon on taskbar that's say "currently set to armoury crate audio mode" when i right click it, it show launch audio setting and disable effect, do you know something about this? because i try to search it but cant get anything
@oddstuffyt8161
@oddstuffyt8161 Жыл бұрын
same i also wna know whats happening here mahn
@Klav1eR
@Klav1eR 6 ай бұрын
Jared I have a question, my Legion 5i pro has two options to set the advanced optimus through the nvidia control panel and lenovo vintage. How I configure the options on those two applications so they can work in sync. Pls help
@AR10.
@AR10. 2 жыл бұрын
What's the best amd gaming laptop under $2500?
@ijanggg8252
@ijanggg8252 2 жыл бұрын
👍👁️👄👁️👍
@raghavsinghania5669
@raghavsinghania5669 2 жыл бұрын
Why spending that much on a laptop?
@ahmedabdulmunem6817
@ahmedabdulmunem6817 2 жыл бұрын
Lenovo legion 5 with high specs worth it and for the price is about 1650 - 1900 $
@the_golden_s5682
@the_golden_s5682 2 жыл бұрын
There is no best laptoo
@ultimategohan1551
@ultimategohan1551 2 жыл бұрын
Asus strix g15 advamtage edition
@profiyntroz5186
@profiyntroz5186 2 жыл бұрын
super video as always
@petre9824
@petre9824 2 жыл бұрын
Hei Jarod, when can we get a comparasion betwen rtx 3060 130w vs rtx 140w ? Thanks :)
@joelliu2309
@joelliu2309 2 жыл бұрын
I have a quick question, I Have a Rtx 3060, I play on a laptop the dell g15 5510 to be specific. When I open up my Nvidia control panel, It does not have an option to (Manage Display mode) why is this?
@TheRcKiwis
@TheRcKiwis 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I have a brand new Asus Zephryus M16 2022 with 3080ti and I can not find the advance optimus setting?
@mehdiprestige8743
@mehdiprestige8743 2 жыл бұрын
Does Msi Prestige Pe60 series support optimus???
@georgehellas8184
@georgehellas8184 2 жыл бұрын
It's like Optimus, with extra steps
@Prakyy
@Prakyy 2 жыл бұрын
Can you let Nvidia know that when the display switches back to the integrated gpu, the dedicated nvidia GPU doesn't actually turn off, but apps keep using it in an idle state causing a power draw of ~10w extra for no reason. I am not the only one that is experiencing this...
@Mobiltelekomnet
@Mobiltelekomnet 2 жыл бұрын
me too
@et-jy4bt
@et-jy4bt 2 жыл бұрын
OMG! This happens to me too you have to go in the device manager to disable and enable the GPU to finally get it to turn off!! Every single time you're done playing a game!!
@hollymolly518
@hollymolly518 2 жыл бұрын
.
@dampflokfreund
@dampflokfreund 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, yes. That's a huge issue with my Lenovo Y540 too and it's so annoying. I don't get why nobody talks about this.
@profiyntroz5186
@profiyntroz5186 2 жыл бұрын
lenovo vantage got some opzions to run on integrated only so it could solve that easier than thru device manager but u goota have lenovo
@renegijon
@renegijon Жыл бұрын
when using advanced optimus my laptop show a new monitor was plugged in and if i go to display options i see 2 monitors but i’m only using the laptop one, is this normal?
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech Жыл бұрын
Yes. That is how it is implemented.
@mrossi0717
@mrossi0717 2 жыл бұрын
@Jarrod'sTech I have the Nvdivia ti 3080 and when I got to the control panel I don't have the "Manage Displays" options that you showed in the video. I checked and made sure all drivers were up to date and they were. What am I missing is the advance Optimus only available with mux switch? Sorry I am new to the gaming laptop world. (I have the ASUS ROG Strix 2021)
@jadamsnz
@jadamsnz 2 жыл бұрын
Not intending to troll. I'm a PC gamer myself. Advanced Optimus sounds very close to what Mac laptops have had ever since Apple developed models with an IGP and a performance GPU. The Mac OS just switches automatically based on graphics load so this kicks in whenever more graphics power is needed, with no manual settings even offered. My 2015 MacBook Pro does this and this approach was around even earlier. I'm not suggesting the Mac is better - for gaming it's definitely not - just expressing surprise that the PC world doesn't, or at least didn't have an equivalent until now.
@Ibnu_568
@Ibnu_568 5 ай бұрын
Can you help me Jarrod, when i use Nvidia gpu only, my windows thinking im on second monitor and make my brightness slider on quick setting didn't work (it's just gray out and can't be clicked or so). Well i still can use fn+f5/6 tho
@thequietkid4l
@thequietkid4l 2 жыл бұрын
Is advanced optimus available on acer aspire 7??
@DeltaMike69
@DeltaMike69 2 ай бұрын
I have a question. I have advanced optimus and in some games I see the notification that tell me Im using de DGPU (PUBG for example). But in other games (State of decay 2 for example) it didn't notify and I dont know if Im using only DGPU or the DGPU + integrated graphics. It is normal? I have Lenovo Loq with rtx 4050. Thanks!
@travisn92
@travisn92 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad it wasn’t more prime, Optimus Prime 🤖
@johndotes
@johndotes 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I do not see the option when I connected my laptop to a high refresh rate monitor. Maybe because I am using HDMI? Thanks!
@atirekbajpai5187
@atirekbajpai5187 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Lenovo gaming laptops have the best implementation. Integrated Graphics on battery power and when plugged in it's the discrete gpu.
@innahthale
@innahthale 2 жыл бұрын
Does Lenovo legion 5 with Ryzen 5 4600H laptop have mux switch? Cuz I want to connect it to an external 144Hz monitor.
@liffaman
@liffaman Ай бұрын
i run with 4090 laptop and that automatic thing is working pretty bad. i get many issues
@tomoloto
@tomoloto 10 ай бұрын
Hey Jarrod, @JarrodsTech Is there any situation where you wouldn't use Advanced Optimus? (aside from fringe cases like your CSGO example) Thanks
@N26-e8w
@N26-e8w 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still angry that lenovo lied about advanced optimus support for amd versions of legion 5 pro and 7.
@flamd5769
@flamd5769 3 күн бұрын
Guys -> So, If i use GPU ONLY - will have same results as conected to external monitor on DGPU?
@OhayoAmigos
@OhayoAmigos 2 жыл бұрын
It's like optimus, but it's more prime.... Optimus Prime
@fist003
@fist003 2 жыл бұрын
great explaination Jarrod, thanks for the video
@bintangalkahfi
@bintangalkahfi 11 ай бұрын
why dont I have the "Manage Display mode" option in my NVIDIA Control Panel?
@k1tajfar714
@k1tajfar714 2 жыл бұрын
does my Legion 5 R7 5800H RTX 3060 have advanced optimus ? it has normal one but the advanced one's settings werent in Nvidia controll panel
@Danlito.
@Danlito. 2 жыл бұрын
My computer asus tuf f15 currently doesn't have advanced optimus, though do you think it will come in a future update to my computer
@alirexha
@alirexha 2 жыл бұрын
How about the rtx20 series?
@8ksmiff502
@8ksmiff502 2 жыл бұрын
Does Omen 16 have advanced optimus/ MUX Switch ?
@Amkolino
@Amkolino 2 жыл бұрын
Had an Acer Triton 500 with rtx3080 here. Selected NV only. Connected my ext. Monitor = only Optimus Mode? For me laptop with mux or gtfo.
@jussikankinen9409
@jussikankinen9409 19 күн бұрын
How does it work with usbc dp, cannot see anymore like hdmi, so best go bios and use only nvidia, hdmi didnt work 165hz
@Ghoosedad
@Ghoosedad 3 ай бұрын
My new laptop seems to have a problem. Whenever i select the nvedia gpu only , my display goes black . Same with using the auto option and launching a game , it goes black . Games only open when selected optimus . Any solutions for this problem?
@quartermaster2809
@quartermaster2809 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jarrod, would you happen to know if my msi GS65 stealth 9SD would have a mux switch?
@JosedelaMancha
@JosedelaMancha Жыл бұрын
Hi @JarrodsTech :) I believe you forgot to say that an EXTERNAL monitor is always connected DIRECTLY to the dGPU, resulting in best graphic performance regardless of the selected mode. So an average user could select Optimus / Hybrid / whatever mode to get best battery life on the road (who would like to do heavy gaming on the road anyway?), and plug an external monitor at home and still get the best graphic performance without switching modes. Thanks!
@Hk-uw8my
@Hk-uw8my Жыл бұрын
Thats not true. It depends on the laptop.
@gflashg
@gflashg 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Jarrod for the informative video. I will definitely use NVIDIA’s Advanced Optimus ( better than restarting the laptop)
@falsavidahipocresia
@falsavidahipocresia 2 жыл бұрын
MSI gf65 thin has the killswitch to turn off optimus ?
@ahmedal3341
@ahmedal3341 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea why I can't switch to "Nvidia GPU Only" while a secondary monitor is connected to the laptop? I own a Legion 7i Gen 6 with Advanced Optimus, and I frequently connect a small second monitor for discord, while gaming on the main laptop monitor. Doing so greys out all options inside "Manage Display Mode" with Optimus selected (even with AC power connected).
@UltManSpider
@UltManSpider 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably because the second monitor is connected directly to the gpu through the usb so it always needs to use the gpu to output video through that usb.
@MrTechSavvy-adrian
@MrTechSavvy-adrian Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Video is greatly helpful bro.
@chickenpasta7359
@chickenpasta7359 Жыл бұрын
Advance Optimus is such a slept on feature. It's pretty much required to get the best battery life out of your machine without the inconvenience of switching to full dGPU in BIOS for max performance.
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech Жыл бұрын
It's still early days with Advanced Optimus, I'm sure we'll see some great improvements in its functionality in 2023. I believe it will also be added to more models too.
@diamondzz1860
@diamondzz1860 2 жыл бұрын
The manage display mode doesnt show up on my strix g15 :/
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
It will mean it doesn't have it then.
@GermanyOni
@GermanyOni 11 ай бұрын
My laptop has adv Optimus and I love it
@byronvega8298
@byronvega8298 2 жыл бұрын
Me: so what is a tensor? Every physicist ever: something that transforms like a tensor. Me: so helpful thanks.
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