The Real Problem With Shane Dawson

Is it true that Shane's changed? All signs point to maybe.
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[@dangelowallaceagain]

BOYS SUPPORT BOYS.

[@laurenb309]

LEGENDS SUPPORTING LEGENDS

[@dartrevas]

D’Angelo with his notifications on 😳

[@gabybenja82]

ILY

[@presentbongo4932]

Dangelowallace

[@abigailmcdowell4248]

Jarvis is the epitome of healthy and non-toxic masculinity!!

[@hadinasrallah8928]

Sorry i massacred that village full of children but as a kid my parents never bought me a lego set

[@aamandazittlau5505]

Oh sorry I didn’t realize you had such a troubled past 😥 it’s okay, I have no relation to the children you massacred, but I just want you to know that I forgive you 🤗

[@heulwenrhosyn9625]

Legit Annakin Skywalkers whole back story 😂

[@SlashoftheGreatnessOfficial]

Hadi Nasrallah cheese

[@quedielzy8579]

@@SlashoftheGreatnessOfficial milk

[@theloczek9582]

Chill itachi chill

[@margaesperanza]

Why is Shane acting like he was making an Oscar darling and not a cheap ass toilet humor movie

[@xmuta]

Marga Esperanza - He’s a white man.

[@SplatterQueen]

Because he legit thought it's a masterpiece, that's why.

[@olesyam7434]

it's crazy that I watched his stuff and the past, and it disturbed me, especially this one sketch he made about people eating "shit sandwhiches" and other weird "rape" related jokes, suicide and etc, and i pretended to enjoy his content bc he was popular back in middle school. i cringe...

[@olesyam7434]

Ally Jones that’s true

[@Tusskie]

@@SplatterQueen * he thinks they're masterpieces

[@sleepypodcaster]

"My audience didn't have a problem with it" BECOUSE WE WERE 12 YEAR OLD GIRLS SHANE. WE DIDNT KNOW ANY BETTER.

[@AndresMartinez-xg2up]

*because

[@calleum8234]

*because

[@sleepypodcaster]

@@AndresMartinez-xg2up bacoose

[@sleepypodcaster]

@@calleum8234 bacauose

[@WilliamAfton984]

beecuz

[@Praise777]

Shane Dawson was grooming children to accept racism and getting sexualized as normal and funny. I don't care about his intentions or his past, I care about his impact. And his impact makes him guilty. I get so angry watching him sexualize his niece and then calling it a normal family moment.

[@thesun5275]

He was grooming children period. Like i don't get how are glossing over the shit he did and got away with. There is a video where he talked Tana into pissing on him which is still up, just because she "turned 18" Which doesn't excuse the fact he was almost twice her fucking age and was in contact with her before she was 18.

[@OliverStarfall]

@@thesun5275 I’m pretty sure that Tana has talked about how that video was filmed like a couple months before she was 18 and she just posted after her birthday. Doesn’t make it any better at all 😖

[@thesun5275]

@@OliverStarfall I suspected that because they said a lot that "18 18 18 18 18" as if trying to convince themselves.

[@monsterhunter445]

​@@OliverStarfallso she wasn't a child then. So 17s year old magically lose their childness? Maybe let's not finalize women because a 17 is a women just because legally she isn't. Sorry lol I think y'all need to touch grass. I am not saying we should objectify but you make it seem like parents telling your son or daughter looks hot because you know you feel proud. God Americans are such prudes lol. Relax

[@people2chronically-online]

@@thesun5275had he ever fucked a kid? No? Hes not a groomer

[@bluexephopsgaming6147]

"I didn't know what racism is so I searched it up and damn bro that sucks fr" Shane

[@-desertpackrat]

He just had this moment like Leeloo in The 5th Element where he researches every bad thing in humanity and cries. "I never knew, oh God!" pfffft

[@dr.alexei7368]

This comment made me laugh rly hard lmao

[@tripesto1864]

HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT RACISM IS????? Lol but that’s crazy

[@reneeilott5072]

@tripesto r/woooosh

[@lol349]

@@reneeilott5072 somebody bout to get some karma

[@Audreytook]

He literally said the words " here's my justification for pedophilia" he is a horrible person

[@VashtiPerry]

yea

[@feap0d]

Fr, theres litterally no context that would be a justified sentence to say

[@daddasani1085]

Literally tho omfg

[@LunarEleven]

He could have gone somewhere legitimate with that conversation. He could have said, "Pedophilia is a disease, nobody chooses to be sexually attracted to children, it's exploitative and terrible but you gotta feel sad for people who live with that shit in their head.... but that doesn't mean it can be condoned, sanctioned, or allowed..." (yada yada etc) I mean, it's not his fun-loving style but... It still would have shocked and upset people (because you aren't supposed to pity people who have taboo mental disorders!) But at least then when people took it out of context he'd actually have been the victim of ignorance rather than the purveyor and therefore have a defensible position. I don't think him saying all this "eww pedophilia is soooo totally gross, disgusting, icky icky yuck yuck you guyzzz" (yes I paraphrased but same drift) bullshit makes me feel any less uncomfortable with his actual stance towards the topic (which ostensibly is that it's not so bad as long as they're at least 12, buy your merch, and/or are family!) It's a serious fucking topic and what disturbs me is how off his defense feels. Thou doth protest too much, Shane. I'd have respected his apology more if he had said "Sorry, I was just trying to say the most shocking, taboo shit I could think of and that's what came out, oops!" It would have still been trite but would have felt like the truth. If this is what he considers acceptable to let the world see, what does he keep hidden?

[@Audreytook]

@@LunarEleven yeah it would've been better if he talked about the mental condition but he didn't, the context is exactly what it sounds like and it's fucked up.

[@thetwelfthuwu1492]

My golden rule for kinks, is; "As long as it doesnt upset, harass, or (unwillingly) hurt anyone, and is legal, and its all consensual, then do what you want." Pedophilia does *not* fall under these things and is therefore not okay. At all.

[@thidneyprither]

i took a class in college about human sexuality in psychology and my professor said pedophilia will never be justified as there is no situation where children would be safe. the only difference between a kink and a paraphilia is consent.

[@ashegrey3042]

also as long as everyone is consenting & guess what CHILDREN CANNOT CONSENT

[@the-postal-dude]

same minus "upset" because like... a lot of kinks upset people but aren't actually harmful

[@squidgirl0413]

​@@the-postal-dudethis. Sometimes with a kink the explicit appeal is the pain or discomfort; its why aftercare is so important.

[@people2chronically-online]

All this hate just screams “I hate he’s more successful than me” Shane has made millions and can retire with enough money to give his kids retirement, there is no cancelling a YT legend

[@buggy9124]

As a person with a good, long history of mental illness: it isn’t an excuse to be abusive to other people. Not in the least.

[@bharv2309]

I have PTSD and I am an addict and was in active addiction for about 5 years. I treated my family like garbage and did some really fucked up stuff for money. What I did was not alright and just because I had my issues doesn’t negate the fact that I hurt people that I love. The difference is that I got help and got clean, got on medication for my PTSD was in intensive therapy for about 5 months. My family supported me 100% through the whole process and I profusely apologized and made amends with everyone I hurt. I then started paying them back for all the stuff I took. The point of this is to say that I learned from my mistakes, apologized and made everything right between myself and my family and DIDNT CONTINUE TO DO IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND THEN BLAME IT ON MY MENTAL ILLNESS.

[@buggy9124]

@@bharv2309 Good for you, I’m glad you’re recovering and were able to make amends with your family.

[@KallieMae]

@@bharv2309 THANK YOU for saying this. I am bipolar, have ADHD, and a dissociative disorder from trauma, and I have to tell people constantly - even if someone has reached a point where they can’t control their actions, it’s their responsibility to recognize that and go get help. If they know they’re hurting people and they do nothing, it is 100% their fault, even if it’s the result of an underlying mental illness. If you’re sick, you go to a doctor. End of story. I haven’t had an episode in years now, and I’m a straight A student in college, student teaching high school physics this year. If I can do it, anyone can.

[@hyeromies]

@@KallieMae hi, as someone who’s also bipolar and has adhd (along with depression and anxiety), it made me very happy to see someone who experiences things similar to the ones i do who has achieved their goals and is doing well in life. i don’t know anyone else suffering from bipolar disorder so your comment made me very happy, as i got a bit closer to thinking i can also achieve my own goals ☺️

[@scoutlaceharding]

Yes, thanks for saying this. I'm bipolar and I hate hearing people use mental illness to justify treating others like crap. If harming others is a consequence of how you cope with your illness then you need to seek help and find healthier ways to cope.

[@KM-mw3jp]

If every year I got bombarded with tweets about being racist for 7 years.... I would look up what blackface is.. in the first year.

[@69_natalia_420]

Yea that seems about right, like "hmm I wonder why these people come at me every like 2 years ish in a cycle, welp guess ima do a blackface now!"

[@joshentertainment2]

America is wierd first why did people do black face and why is it a problem to paint your face and than their is the nword is kinda weird you cant say a word If you wanna see how I look search JoshEntertainment

[@jaylalove7308]

joshentertainment 2 1. It is rude to paint yourself in black face because back in the day, they (white people) used to paint their faces black and make fun of black people for entertainment. 2. They (white people) used the n word in a demeaning so we (black people) made the word ours

[@joshentertainment2]

@@jaylalove7308 yeah but n word is still bad and get censored like a swear word on the radio

[@hagelslag9312]

joshentertainment 2 Every country has a history. A lot has happend on earth. In America, there is a history of slavery and horrible things happenig to people, because of the color of their skin. Unfortunately today there are still people treating black people absolutely horrible in America. If you would like to read about it, try things like ‘black history america’ in google or something similar. It is complicated if this is the first time you learn about it. But I hope you understand many people have suffered and died and this is a very serious topic.

[@wendeviant2475]

Call me old fashioned, but I believe sexual relationships should be between two consenting adults.

[@athenavonheon2]

If you go too old fashioned then you go around the bend to no consent

[@vaishnavisingh9244]

Honestly, the age difference isn't that bad but they need to be adults and aware of their actions. Kids/minors shouldn't be exposed to sexual content outside sex ed.

[@ulrikahaggard9923]

@@vaishnavisingh9244 oh I understand you're a walking contradiction

[@vaishnavisingh9244]

@@ulrikahaggard9923 How the hell am I a walking contradiction when I just support age difference between couples as long as they met and had been with each other after being adults. I am sorry for my English, but all I am saying is that consenting adults should be in a relationship even if there is an age difference? I just said that because people get a lot of hate for having age difference, even if they do love each other and had their relationship when they were both adults. If you really want to know, my parents have an 8-year gap between them and they met when my mother was 20 and dad was 28, hence they were consenting adults. They were not exposed to sexual content before 18, so how is it a contradiction? I am not trying to be defensive, but can you explain it to me?

[@ulrikahaggard9923]

@@vaishnavisingh9244 well why did you even bring up age difference? no one said anything about age difference.

[@erikagibson5171]

I am a hispanic woman and it was a little hurtful to watch him make fun of Mexican people, always portraying them as maids or workers. Hispanic people can be other things other than the stereotypes. People like Shane, who has a very wide audience, making these videos and entertaining these stereotypes is a very bad thing to teach audiences that could be children and misrepresents people of color. Do 👏🏽not👏🏽entertain👏🏽racial👏🏽stereotypes👏🏽

[@XpetraXpazlX]

He does that for every race even his own

[@lucyla9947]

One of my favorite book series plays with Racial stereotypes in a more positive light like it will present you with a person from an Minority race that has a certain stereotype, only to just flip it on it's head or blame that stereotype on another thing (for example there was a black man named Jim who was presented as a Thug, however it turns out that Jim was actually pretty smart and educated and only acted like a thug to get people to underestimate him, or for blaming it on another thing there was this Asian character Dali who was bad at driving {Asian stereotype} however it turned out that was because she is nearly blind not anything to do with her race she's just blind, the literal most stereotypical thing that happened that wasn't flipped on it's head was having Dali teach the MC about an Asian religion)

[@LC-hd5dc]

@@XpetraXpazlX how galaxy brain of you, "white guy being racist is ok as long as he makes fun of white people once in a while too"

[@jollytronvr4486]

@@LC-hd5dc as an Italian I would love to see someone dress up as an Italian chef and start talking about a terrible obsession with pizza and sphaghetti

[@jollytronvr4486]

I would also love to be called a fanculo

[@willoween-witch]

pretending that pedophilia is 'just a kink' is probably the actual reason why my bff's little brother, who was like, 14 at the time, used to say the same thing to justify it when grown-ass people used to make advances towards him on the internet. Literally making kids feel like they have to justify their abuse is fuckin disgusting.

[@inserthahafunniusername9656]

Is he ok now?

[@annika8674]

“I’m willing to lose everything” *loses things* Shane: 👁👄👁 wait…

[@honestlycookie3570]

_"you weren't supposed to do that"_

[@nameinprocess1086]

Hahaha you are not funny

[@raspite3195]

@@nameinprocess1086 haha no one asked

[@annakozuki8950]

@@nameinprocess1086 pretty funny to me man

[@KellyLoom1s]

@ALT F4 I laughed.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

y'all go way too soft on shane. He kissed children on the mouth.

[@thepassingstatic6268]

Probably dont want to incur the full wrath of the fanbase. I think he should be gone off of all forms of social media until AT LEAST the 2nd Coming

[@merautu]

@@thepassingstatic6268 or how about, forever

[@asynchr0nus]

@@merautu the second coming of christ he means

[@probnotking]

YES 👏 HE 👏 SHOULD BE 👏👏 IN JAIL👏👏 BEING CANCELED IS THE LEAST OF HIS WORRIES

[@rosettavalentine1050]

Idk this video, first time watching it months ago, I didn't like. It felt too.. nice towards him. Rubbed me the wrong way

[@sg-yo4kp]

Can I just reiterate that he KISSED A 12 YEAR OLD? and exchanging gum with a 14 year old (and lets not kid ourselves about that)? how about no shane. Gotta disagree with you on this one jarvis. I definitely donnot think Shane should be back on this platform.

[@thesun5275]

Remember that time when he got a just turned 18 year old Tana to piss on him? (And he had a piss fetish, not that that is wrong but she just turned 18) AND UPLOADED THE VIDEO TO KZbin She knew him before she was 18, she admitted that he got her to start being a KZbinr, he had all the power and convinced her to do that to him on camera just because she just turned 18

[@saltyriz7734]

​@@thesun5275 he was acting very weird with tana...and she was just 18 it is so weird.....he would say sexual jokes with her

[@davidfairweather3301]

Feel like people gave him too much leeway cos he’s a youtuber and kept spinning it all as humour and “it’s not real” but if you personally knew someone who kissed children, called them sexy, and was in online video chats with them, you’d be reporting him to the police.

[@karmajester6504]

@@thesun5275it’s even worse because Tana came out later and said they recorded that video when she was STILL 17! and just waited until after her birthday to upload it. That’s why I’m the video, they keep reiterating that she’s finally 18 so it’s fine

[@gaminganimators7000]

​@@thesun5275wasn't that video made before she turned 18?

[@leorafilms.]

i'm a white person and i literally can't remember a time in my life where i thought that anything close to blackface or racism was okay. Even at like age 5?? Shane is a 30 year old man and apparently never got the same social awareness as a newborn until he was 26.

[@Colinop]

yes

[@Kdj1996]

Todd from Bojack Horseman said it best: “You can't keep doing this! You can't keep doing shitty things and then feel bad about yourself like that makes it okay! You need to be better!”

[@emilyordaz3976]

ugh yes i love bojack horseman

[@genericname8727]

I love Todd.

[@brianna3396]

Ah yes bojack

[@Kjdangerous]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@darklinksego7498]

Never watched it but that hits deep

[@mickeewoop-woop9020]

"i dont think Shane is a horrible person" *shows back to back footage of him being a horrible person*

[@cameronh3756]

You don’t have to be a horrible person to do horrible things. Similarly, you don’t have to do horrible things to be a horrible person.

[@tuff2235]

Caroline H no shit

[@actionjackson3522]

@@cameronh3756 This is true buuuuuuut.... Shane did horrible things and he is a horrible person too. Even *if* he didn't do blackface, pedophilic behavior, and s3xually assault animals, he made that deplorable "Not Cool" movie and PR specials for Jeffree, Tana, and Jake.

[@mickeewoop-woop9020]

@@cameronh3756 shane is a horrible person tho. :)

[@dorcasmeadowesgf]

And he’s said the n word, multiple times

[@daftoptimist]

That “family moment” excuse pisses me off. If I heard my relative speaking that way to my 12-year-old niece, I’d pull her the hell away from him, I’d tell her parents, I’d be ready to punch him if he even looked in her direction again. You shouldn’t be making jokes like that with ANY minors around, but “they’re my family” is not the defense he thinks it is. It’s even more disgusting.

[@jokeer722]

Okay this is rather obvious at this point but NEVER trust anyone who calls themselves an "Empath" or just "nice" overall. They're most of the time the worst type of people.

[@bubblesa8653]

“if you tell more then 3 people about your good deed, its no longer a good deed”. also people often overcompensate when they try to convince you that they are somthing they are not, often the opposite. i 100% agree

[@bubblesa8653]

*they are often the opposite*

[@LC-hd5dc]

idk if the description is an inside joke but ironically jarvis calls himself nice on twitter

[@memeyartist5591]

yup, if someone thinks having basic human empathy is a superpower then they are a shit person

[@smooth_transitions09]

ex-excuse me h-how man-ny ye-years...

[@AVeryPotterFan13]

Shout out to my mom for deciding Shane Dawson was too inappropriate but Happy Tree Friends was fine. Seriously, good call.

[@annakepes8050]

Wish I had your mom lol

[@user-it4cl9hf6u]

happy tree friends hasnt done blackface lmao

[@sewerpeople346]

Damn that's a callback lol that's an old bit

[@angelidez13]

Holy hell! really??? Wait...what year are we talking about? Cause old school Shane was TERRIBLE and I'd totally understand that choice if we're talking about his chomo years... You know what don't answer that, I get your mom's choice lmao

[@user-it4cl9hf6u]

@@angelidez13 I agree lmao he definitely isn't better than happy tree friends. Like his blackface and crap isnt even funny.

[@twigthegamerboi]

"I don't think Shane is a monster" well I do. He did black face like 20 times, abused his cat and so much more

[@mewmeow479]

I have a cat, and I could never imagine doing anything like the things he did to his cat, his cat deserved a much better home

[@appledognugget2267]

I legitimately think that Shane’s spiral of insanity should be studied by psychology students

[@twigthegamerboi]

@@appledognugget2267 FR! Like, it’s fascinating how someone can do so much insane stuff and still think they’re the victim of cancel culture 💀

[@hypnoticbat3080]

As someone who had a grown man make sexual advances towards me when I was a young child, just listening to Shane's apologies makes me want to actually vomit. NONE of Shane's behavior should be normalized or accepted under any context.

[@cloudyjay4359]

him and onision. i wish onion boy dragged him into hell with him. he was so close

[@theeldritchpen5599]

It's interesting that he said he's too busy to google naked babies, when a normal reaction would be to say why he doesn't want to see naked babies. Seems like deflection

[@anon_moth]

Yeah that's weird af. I'm not a busy person these days but I wouldn't google that let alone type it because it's gross.

[@doctorxawesomestop-motion1234]

“I’d never kill anyone! I’m way too busy!”

[@emmacarlsen8308]

I was thinking the same exact thing.. was he trying to make a joke about it??

[@TheIngie44]

Also like, googling something takes two seconds. No one is too busy to spare two seconds to google something. Like I'm sure a neurosurgeon will occasionally google 'starbucks near me'. It's just such a weird excuse that makes no sense

[@Jorcqualyn]

​@@doctorxawesomestop-motion1234😭😭😭😭

[@ashers_aether7256]

If I, a 13 yr raised in a racist, homophobic household can learn to be better and accept all people. A grown man should at least know how to apologize

[@ocean_demon]

I totally agree. I grew up in a racist, homophobic household and a society which made me think discrimination against other minority groups is normal. But after being introduced to the internet and some good content creators, I realised my mindset is completely wrong and have since then changed my ways. If teenagers on the internet can do it, so can you, Shane Dawson

[@morganismism]

EXACTLY

[@carolineb5861]

Amen!!! I'm from the deep south and i remember my dad proudly telling me and my brother about beating up a gay guy because he was wearing earnings!?!? And I'm 23 and have educated myself and expanded my perspective and my beliefs are sooooooo far from my parents. There. Is. No. Excuse.

[@N56-]

ˢᵘᶜᵏˢ ᵗᵒ ᵇᵉ ʸᵒᵘ

[@hedgie9823]

I mean being brought up in a racist homophobic household doesn't exempt you from criticism but you should understand the struggles of leaving something drilled into you as a child.

[@spacedragon2853]

14:20 there are plenty of consenting adults with feet. The problem with pedophilia isn't that it's "weird" it's that it inherently involves someone who can't consent

[@ashegrey3042]

& also the fact that there is so much manipulation & grooming involved bc they take advantage of their vulnerability and naïveté

[@camrynpham635]

it’s like what my english teacher says about persuasive essays: “if you oppose a side of an argument, tell me why you are correct, not why the other side is wrong.”

[@MamaDoctorJones]

From an actual expert in gynecology, the JK Rowling joke has me ROLLING. I am CACKLING. 💀

[@BraveRaid]

Rowling has you rolling

[@angelinaAGES]

@@BraveRaid lmaoxjsjcjs

[@senpieloven]

DR.JONES!!! 😂

[@hannahm5574]

When worlds collide

[@krystalbuten3403]

Nishita Bhowmik same lol

[@WaterVolt1917]

I don't know why it's so hard to agree that someone who called a 6 year old "sexy" doesn't deserve forgiveness.

[@beepatpen]

exactly!

[@teathesilkwing7616]

Unless they’re also around 6 and/or don’t know what “sexy” means

[@WaterVolt1917]

@@teathesilkwing7616 Well yes, obviously. But Shane most definitely wasn't in either of those categories.

[@rorzoi]

@@teathesilkwing7616 this is an unnecessary and pointless reply

[@teathesilkwing7616]

@@rorzoi yeah

[@bubullibooooo9928]

If anybody ever needed to be cancelled it's this guy.... Normalising predatory sexual behaviour representing them as jokes. That is how abusers groom their victims by pushing the boundaries further and further..

[@lain.3d]

Jarvis?

[@s.petrikov]

@@lain.3d no shane Dawson, lol

[@rosieholstein3233]

"Noted female anatomy expert, J.K. Rowling" THAT SHADE THO

[@SteviiLove]

Shane is literally the epitome of "I can't be racist, I have black friends!"

[@Vsure420]

I've never agreed with a KZbin comment more. You deserve all the likes.

[@cringeworthycontentstudios8959]

Periodt

[@billscott490]

I can’t be racist, the tires on my car and my bike are black

[@AviatorZoroark]

He doesn't even have black friends though all the people he hangs out with are white....

[@Mo-rn7ug]

Also “I cant be a bad person, i had a hard childhood!”

[@SarahBarah.99]

Shane Dawson built his career off of blackface and making poc butts of his jokes... So its gonna be a yikes from me.

[@bloodyhaze2844]

Yeah but look at everyone else in that time... Especially Jeffree Star like why y'all skipping out on him he's literally done ILLEGAL horrid things

[@silly6517]

@@bloodyhaze2844 literally everyone who hates shane also hates jeffree we??

[@lizlazmccringe2043]

Don’t forget pandering to minors so also pedophilia 🙃🙃🙃

[@bloodyhaze2844]

@@silly6517 you'd be surprised how many people are still bowing down to Jeffree

[@georgaseebalack6003]

@@bloodyhaze2844 yes we know but I'm so tired of listening to anything related to Jeffery. Never liked him and never will. No matter what happens ppl will still like him just like they like Shane so there is no use even bothering

[@pykenotpike]

What Shane did to Franchesca Ramsey is such blatant emotional manipulation. He wasn’t even upset that he hurt her, just upset that she might hate him. It’s so infuriating too because, as you said, he clearly hasn’t changed.

[@Max-to9zg]

I'm literally European and learned about black face and the Jim Crow era in general in my English class... but yeah, an American not knowing about racism against non-white people in his own country is 100% believable.

[@cez_is_typing]

Yeah I’m from the uk and learnt about it in history when I was 14/15 (it was a course you had to choose to take but still) So Pretty unbelievable

[@mbrammy7]

How old were you guys? I’m Australian and didn’t learn about American slavery until High School

[@eddiejames4006]

@@mbrammy7 I’m an Aussie and I didn’t really learn about this stuff in school at all (I went to Catholic schools for 11 years). We focused mainly on the World Wars, Aus history, and ancient history as far as I remember. I wish I’d learnt more about these issues though. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a Catholic school thing and maybe this was taught at State schools. EDIT: I learnt some stuff in an optional Modern History class when I was 16 and out of Catholic school, but it should’ve been taught earlier.

[@mbrammy7]

@@eddiejames4006 - my history education was very similar and I attended public schools and went to probably the best funded public high school in the state but the curriculum was similar, we mostly focused on Australian history and then mostly world history in High School and I was not actually taught about the Atlantic-slave trade in school, but just googled it when I was in high school because I was confused about the history of African Americans, I think as a young child I had assumed African Americans were immigrants just like my African Australian friends who were 1st/2nd gen immigrants I completely agree and I do wonder if other Australian kids have a similar experience I did while growing up consuming so much American media

[@PointsofData]

Beyond the school thing, we (Americans) are drowning in discourse about identity and ethnicity and all that. Movies, TV shows, books, music...there is no way Shane didn't come across something outside of school, at some point, that referenced blackface. The reason he found it funny and edgy to say the n-word and do blackface was because it shocked people. He knew it would be shocking. Why was it shocking? Because it's extremely offensive to an entire group of people. There is no way, between school and general media exposure, he didn't know what he was doing.

[@moon_sun1964]

I know people who had a worst childhood than Shane and they would NEVER sexualize kid and say racist joke… hard childhood is NOT a excuse

[@terra_the_nightingale135]

Isabel Davis aw yeah it’s kinda cute.

[@pupville1055]

Exactly! It really gets on my nerves when people try to justify their shitty behaviour with “I’ve been under a lot of pressure”, or “I have a mental illness”, or “I had a bad childhood”. None of that matters. As someone with GAD (generalised anxiety disorder) and moderate depression and currently living a bad childhood? Yeah, at no point would I choose to harm others.

[@seagoddess9937]

I do understand your comment, and I agree that having a traumatic childhood should not excuse you from abusing or using others for any reason. But having mental illnesses are difficult. I'm mainly making this reply to Pupville. Childhood is the years that influence us. We more start to get our own opinions around 14 maybe 16, but they are based on the foundation we were taught and how we interpreted it. People may be extremely angry one day because of something that's happened to them recently and that's how they've learned to cope. If they're using it for an excuse, fair enough, but there's another part of it where they many be genuinely trying and don't know how. When it's a repeated behavior, that's when you truly know. So, please don't just get at people for saying they've been stressed lately and are behaving differently than normal.

[@pupville1055]

@@seagoddess9937 - Oh no, of course. Mental illnesses and childhood experiences influence people's behaviours as they grow. That's not really debatable. I essentially just mean that whatever you're going through doesn't justify abuse or bigotry. The same goes for people under pressure. It's understandable for them to lash out. However, personal pressure doesn't excuse treating people horrendously is all. Frankly, often I would dismiss the abuse inflicted on myself with "well, they're stressed out" and other such things, and there's simply a fine line to tread. Sorry for the slight misunderstanding :0

[@ashtheintroverted7204]

@@seagoddess9937 I 100% see where you're coming from, but we really can't say that they're actions were even somewhat "justified". For example, if a killer was raised in a family of killers and taught that it was okay... We're not going to set them free because they thought he did nothing wrong. That's not how life works. However, we should be patient with them and try to help in whatever way we can. We shouldn't feel like their hatred and actions are valid because of their childhood/mental health.

[@Charlie-nc3cp]

"Shes black ya know she just slaps her keyboard" ?!?!?????? *What does it mean? We'll never know*

[@janec1097]

is it ...a key smash joke??? as far as i know that’s a gay thing, not a black thing?? (source- me, a gay girl)

[@tj-gamer2578]

i think he meant that she was ‘too stupid to use a keyboard correctly’

[@catrinajayy]

In the full clip of this he talks about how she sits around slapping her keyboard not knowing what she's doing because she's black, so he's basically calling her incompetent

[@GTAandApplechannel]

@@janec1097 so you like girls

[@TheRogerbacon]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3jNm4CQhq1jb7M

[@jakemarie828]

I'm so grossed out and embarrassed that I liked his vids when I was a kid. Wish I could apologize to everyone in middle school for the sh*t I must've spread... 🤢

[@annakepes8050]

Fax

[@beepatpen]

I'm so glad I never watched his videos, i was always put off by him, He seemed scary to me and I'm glad... I'm glad you can look back and see how bad it was, you didn't know better then but now you do so don't feel bad

[@elliewellie_YouTube]

I know this is old but I want you to know you're not the only one. I was a middle schooler during this era of youtube and it DEFINITELY rubbed off on me

[@alexderby6088]

I was... 9? When I started watching him. I didn't pick up on the fact his character Shanaynay was racist. I didn't pick up on a lot of it because I was a kid. I did defend him for far too long however because I was an ignorant asshole. But I'm learning

[@chelseakitkatz]

your story is my story as well. internet exposed us to people like Shane way too soon. we were defending someone whose jokes we didn’t understand

[@butterflyindisguise3838]

i found out about when i was 9 too but 2-3 months i stopped watching him cause i found out he was a horrible person

[@KallieMae]

Ditto. In fact, I didn’t realize Shanaynay was racist until a couple years ago when I heard someone else mention it.

[@swaggyyoutuber2963]

You shouldn’t kiss a 12 year old girl when you’re in youre 20s... THE MORE YOU KNOW✨✨

[@louloudaki_]

honestly! like age gaps are only good if the young person is like 20 and the older person is like 35, and that’s even a huuuuge stretch. me and my boyfriend talked for awhile before we dated to make sure we were both ok with the fact that he’s a freshman in college and i’m a junior in high school. that’s only 2 years but we still talked about it for awhiiiiile to make sure it was good with both of us. my point is that if there’s a big age gap (like more than 4 years) the two people should be both adults then it’s like do what you want. but if someone is an adult they absolutely should not be with anyone below 16, and 16 is a stretch. 16 is only in terms of like when you’re 18 kind of thing. i’m rambling but everyone here agrees with me so y’all get the point. anyway, have a great day

[@joycesummer3818]

@@damedaneguy6160 Which is nasty af.

[@louloudaki_]

dio holy shit what

[@louloudaki_]

Joyce Summer agreed

[@WhutADrag]

@@louloudaki_ Yeah, exactly this. And even with 16 and 18, you should still make sure to educate yourselves on stuff like power dynamics and signs of abuse or manipulation, not just to keep yourself safe but also to avoid doing any harm. It might work out, but it'd take more conscious effort to keep things healthy. (Speaking from experience being in a 2-3yr-age-gap relationship that turned out horrible. Even the nicest people can get drunk with power if it's not worked on...)

[@Facetheblazingfire]

Shane acts like he's the only one to experience trauma in his life...and then uses it to excuse all of his bad choices. No accountability.

[@TheGrimbler]

"Sorry that you forced me to kill your children, i have anxiety"

[@hahgay69420]

"i'm not like other boys,i'm quirky like that"

[@wren_.]

i’ve had anxiety problems in my life and they’ve never driven me to say the n word, what reality is he living in where he thinks people buy that shit

[@yeetionary]

"Sorry that I have 3 accounts of vehicular manslaughter, I have ADHD so I'm quirky."

[@kayliegaray707]

This might b a wild question but r u in the military?

[@dotdotdot...176]

"It's clear that what really troubles him is how he's perceived, and not the harm he's done." This. This is so powerful.

[@JessicaUzumaki]

I think what Shane said about "not understanding" why pedophiles aren't allowed to look up search terms like "naked baby" and jerk off to them was particularly showing of his character. He NEVER seems to take the other party into account. I bet he was one of those people at the start of covid that was like "Oh yeah, we should just have stores be open for only a couple hours a day with mandatory masking so that others who don't want to wear them can take the greater risk on their own time - even though this COMPLETELY forgets that staff are, in fact, people.

[@Jenninka]

“I’ve never said a racial slur in anger” is just a different flavor of Jeffree Star being like “yeah I screamed the n word at women but they were white women and I just wanted to say the worst thing I could think of” like... that makes it ok?

[@Lobboi]

That's the worst thing he could think of to say

[@claytonharbaugh308]

Kinda gotta wonder why the two are friends.

[@reagan4058]

"it was the worst insult I could think of" was also pewdiepie's excuse when he said the n word lol

[@SabrinaZ99]

@@reagan4058 oh god, Felix too? I haven’t been a fan of his in forrrrrever I didn’t know. Was it on a stream of some sort? Or a video? I genuinely don’t understand how in the least people don’t edit out them being garbage human beings in videos that are pre recorded. not that it’s okay to say slurs and be bigoted in general as long as the general public doesn’t know. it just confuses me from an image protection standpoint. Shane is different, he was built on being controversial in part. But pewds is just a gamer that thinks yelling == comedy still, right? Why bring more hate on yourself? Idk.

[@huh1542]

@@SabrinaZ99 Yeah, the Pewdiepie n-word controversy was back in 2016/2017 (the infamous bridge stream, I think it was COD or some shooting game popular at the time.) It was relatively a big ass deal in the KZbin space (him being the most subscribed youtuber and all that.) Though, honestly the whole thing is kinda old news. Like with Shane Dawson and Jeffrey Star the n-word scandals despite being longer ago were only further context to how these creators respond to and justify their overall toxic behavior (Shane’s done far worse, Jeffrey has done more racist shit since.) Pewdiepie apologized multiple times regarding that single incident, was semi-cancelled at the time (His youtube show was pulled, his sponsors were pulled, he practically became enemy no. 1 on the Media’s shit-list.) and uploading nearly everyday since he hasn’t had another major controversy in 5 years. (the only criticism I really hear about Pewds is that bridge incident and a fivver incident that happened in that same time period.) This isn’t any justification to why Pewdiepie said the word or me saying that it’s fine that he did. I stopped watching him in 2014 and when I heard he said that word I stayed away until the whole T-Series subscriber war. I just wanna provide some context on why Pewdiepie is probably seen more favorably then Shane or Jeffrey or even Tana or Jake Paul despite similar actions, cause none of the others STOPPED at the n-word, they all did other shitty things that made them extremely unlikeable and to many unforgivable.

[@majimacarioca]

still losing my mind over "white people in the entertrainment business are the most oppressed group in society" i deadass needed to PAUSE the video

[@dumbgayenby]

中原レティ Lmaoo same 😂 😂 😂, like sis, stop playing the victim.

[@Wiflomiflo]

Time stamp?

[@majimacarioca]

@@Wiflomiflo at 30:02 !

[@Wiflomiflo]

@@majimacarioca thank you

[@michealtaormina1561]

gamers:

[@izzymiller5538]

the scary thing is, the other day he posted on his instagram story something about having this book for their “future child” and that made me really… uncomfortable. he is a grown man that sexualizes children and teens. I don’t think he should ever have a child of his own, that is scary.

[@greatcheifofhanging6106]

Oh my-I swear to god they better change their mind or Ryland leaves or someone stops them! cause I cannot 🤢🤢🤢🤢 we cannot have this man abuse his child in any way!

[@aztecghost]

My least favourite kind of apology has to be "I hurt other people and now I feel yucky, help me" and Shane Dawson seems only capable of making that kind of apology

[@bassman9261995]

Jarvis would be a terrible waiter. He keeps spilling the tea

[@Arwenkid]

XD

[@yorukaadams940]

Kay, underrated comment.

[@beamshark]

@@yorukaadams940 agreed 💞💞👍💫

[@dr.alexei7368]

👩🏻‍🍳 💋

[@joey111941]

I think this is the best comment. Lol

[@ontheinternetnooneknowsyou2764]

Shane: attacks people who rightfully critizise him. Blackface, sexualizes minors... Shane: “i’M aN EmPatH”

[@YukiLeiu]

My big thing now is I don’t trust anyone who calls themselves an empath cause of people like shane. If you have to say how nice you are you’re not nice.

[@ryanhernandez1877]

Damn, is that the second gay canceled for sexualizing a minor this year?

[@ujjwalmishra8962]

Imagine unironically saying that

[@Outandalout]

@@ryanhernandez1877 Shane isn’t gay, he’s bi lol

[@nottknormal]

@@Outandalout i thought gay was an umbrella term that includes bi people.

[@livelaughlozl]

Shane may have had a poor childhood but its his responsibility to deal with that trauma in a mature way. He can’t keep blaming his past for his current actions

[@mr-hoe]

'I hAd A tOuGh UpBrInGiNg' yeah so did many of us, it's not an excuse

[@FrenkTheJoy]

I had a painful life too but I'm not over here hitting on 12 year olds.

[@69_natalia_420]

Yea like, many people are abused or assaulted but they don't all become the abuser or the person who assaults someone else.

[@Plaincheerio755]

Having a specific past doesnt define who you are. You can have a terrible past and be an incredible person.

[@cozychaoschild6848]

🤦🤦 this

[@f1rebreather123]

And it’s not like it’s your fault that you have issues like that due to abuse. It’s just that you should realize they are wrong and get therapy for it.

[@pink.lemonade7715]

Same like tf

[@kythefairy2029]

props to the pink haired woman that called him out on his bullshit when it wasn't the most popular or widely accepted thing to do so! it takes balls to call out creators, especially back then!

[@josepho3366]

I present her the Bold Award.

[@carveylover]

She was an executive or something higher up with the company producing his movie so she had valid points. I applauded her then and applaud her now.

[@tiffanykim2773]

The one who said "it wasn't even funny or done well"?

[@yamicivetta5252]

@@tiffanykim2773 yes. Big HUGE props to her.

[@pissapocalypse]

She was the hero we didn't deserve

[@jeremybrezenoff1280]

Shane Dawson's "I'm not a pedophile" shirt is causing a lot of questions already answered by his shirt.

[@spitxzi]

He literally said on on of his tweets (Yes...I'm a pedophile). I was so disgusted like wth

[@bunnieyumi]

@@spitxzi wtf is wrong with him. Seriously, he's insane

[@Okayyyki]

@@spitxzihe’s genuinely disgusting 🤢

[@rorysteil7523]

A good counter I saw to the whole “it was a different time” argument, was on a change the original Willy Wonka (the one from the /seventies/) director made to the Oompa Loompas. In the book, they were black, but some of the POCs working on the movie went to the director and were like “uhhh hey maybe we don’t have all the factory workers be black & endeared to this one white guy.. feels kinda slavery-ish idk maybe we don’t” and the director was like “yeah that makes sense, we’re in the 1970s we’re more progressive then that!” So the Oompa Loompas turned into orange people with green hair. So if a white director can look at the SEVENTIES, a time WAY more racist then the 2000s, and be like “we’re better then this” to blatant racism AND make an effort to change it, how can you begin to defend BLACKFACE happening in the 2010s, like 40 years later?!

[@PointsofData]

Not a defense I swear but the "it was a different time" argument is more about the general culture of the internet, which leaked into IRL since what you find funny online is what you'll repeat to your friends. Websites like KZbin were far more lax in reigning people in, so slurs and other shitty stuff that would get your account suspended/demonetized at least today was prevelant as "internet humor" back then. A LOT of creators who are not inherently awful people have had to look back on that time and apologize for jokes they made since they didn't fully understand the harm they were doing. However Shane is awful for a multitude of reasons and even with the prevelance of that kind of humor, there were still people pushing against it...but it was what the edgy kids found funny and often what got views. IDK. It was a weird and dumb af time. I didn't partake in slurs or anything but I did laugh at jokes I now understand to be incredibly cruel and harmful. 🤷‍♀️ But not at blackface...I was old enough to understand blackface was not something I should be laughing at lmao.

[@enonoka]

Shane seems like the type to say "Why do homeless people exist..? Just buy a house."

[@Deceitful93]

Why do poor people exist? Just buy more money.

[@enonoka]

@@Deceitful93 Ah, yes. We did it boys, we solved poverty.

[@aaahhelp8766]

Are you starving? Just eat food.

[@lj.853]

Just work more, duh. 🤷🏽‍♀️ R/s

[@mjmm4654]

Are you dead? just live.

[@DenverSkyes]

I hate when he tries to excuse his horrible behavior on having a bad childhood. Many people have had terrible upbringings and are still good people smh

[@swi88y62]

Well he’s a victim of sexual harassment and that can have ramifications

[@psycho7602]

@@swi88y62 Yeah but instead of getting help he does the similar things to other children , Seems about right if you ask me.

[@dinosaurk]

@@swi88y62 Yeah but that doesn't excuse anything.

[@swi88y62]

Danny Keenan except it would because sexual victims try to justify the actions of their abusers for fear that they are the problem and that it was their fault

[@swi88y62]

psycho jokes are jokes funny or not

[@yourfavoritebubbe7444]

I genuinely think Shane did an immense amount of harm to me as a child. Especially when it comes to race. I had a lot of unlearning to do as I got older and I have no doubt that some amount of that was caused by Shane's content which I watched when I was WAY too young. I knew it was wrong to watch shane too cause I wouldn't show his videos to my mom. Toby Turner, who as it would later end up being just as bad, I could show to my mom. But I never showed shane to her or any of my family.

[@mirandaduffy5389]

The only time it’s acceptable to call a 6 year old sexy is if it’s someone born on a leap year

[@Lina-we6fr]

"I'm not doing Black Face I am just dressing as the character" Cosplayers: Bruh-

[@nman551]

Bruh

[@Peetaleem]

Bruh

[@coal1818]

The second you paint your face a darker colour (with the exception of unnaturally coloured characters with non-human skintones) thats not cosplay thats just racist ✨

[@MadamChriss]

@@coal1818 that's true that's something all us cosplayers get if want to cosplay as a darker character we won't change our skin color we just dress up as the character as least cosplayers know that blackface is wrong.

[@bh251cc]

I hope Shane pees out a sea urchin and poops out a splintery piece of ply wood

[@markusbeaumonte1553]

Who else wants a collab with Jarvis and Dangelo Wallace? Edit: everyone edits when they get a ton of likes so here we are

[@curlyhaircupid]

Me!

[@justpeachy5239]

OMG yes! I'd die

[@landoblando8947]

Not me!

[@laurenb309]

ME

[@Scotty199]

Yes

[@bernie2010]

i watched shane in elementary school. i didn’t understand the jokes i just thought he was acting weird and i liked that it was mature, as i wanted to be. it’s disturbing to think about and how many people he hurt with this content.

[@Angeloflight7]

This Shane person comes off literally dead inside and completely souless. He really is missing the human aspect to him.. something is just REALLY off with him

[@ratsbelongnowhere2548]

I really don’t like shane’s tone like he wants people to perceive him as this soft spoken guy which seems so manipulative and disingenuous

[@fashiharz8584]

I know right? Like he's all "I am too sensitive UwU"

[@imranmazzarulli5293]

I don’t like his voice at all. His face is kinda ugly too

[@pachiart8838]

I read that as "disgusting" and I mean.. both words work.

[@TheRealStellaJane]

the real shane came out on his IG live for sure

[@teal3af49]

Henry Mazzarulli 亨利 I genuinely don’t care about looks or voice, it’s just attitude and the things he’s done.

[@MaeBarronMusic]

"I didn't ask for a Black hobo" ...what a hero!

[@anna_banana414]

Oh thank god !!!

[@LLLadySSS]

Amazing, wow ! 👏🏼

[@spikespiegels]

Career: fixed

[@AspiringCrybaby2018]

Racism dropped to zero percent!

[@nana6744]

LMAOOOOPSJSKWKEHBXd

[@ashleymorgstewart]

As an actor what he said about us made my blood boil. Like sorry I’m not gonna want to work for a horrible human being.

[@stellarae8257]

the thing with his paedophilia "fetish" analogy related to things like feet is that yeah maybe that makes sense in terms of "why are some fetishes considered okay when others aren't?" but it's actually really obvious: adults can consent to things like having pictures of their body taken and used for sexually gratifying material. children cannot consent to anything sexual in nature. they can't consent to most shit. i dont think people can control what they're attracted to, but i do think some of these things stem from trauma and can be improved/managed through adequate therapy/support systems. we can all also control our choices and actions. we all choose daily which content is acceptable to look into and what is not. everyone has the ability to stop themselves from partaking in harmful activities. so in conclusion: no shane, it isnt acceptable or okay to take advantage of children

[@g00chi]

tbh if anyone deserves to be cancelled it's this guy. Racism, shamelessly sexualizing kids, and gaslighting everyone who calls him out...what more do you need? If this is what he has no problem doing on video, imagine what he does behind the camera?

[@NoName-ld7gg]

And not to mention how hypocritical he is! He’s such a hypocrite that his hypocritical actions relapse, therefore making his narratives predictable. Exhibit A: On _multiple_ occasions he’s called pedophilia “disgusting” and that “he’d never do such a thing”, yet on that same boat, he has a plentiful collection of clips where he (very shamelessly) sexualizes minors, and even went as far as to ask a minor to twerk on camera! And still has the nerve to deny any pedophile claims of him, and says that he’s “joking”. But if he was actually joking, he wouldn’t have joked about pedophilia, of all things!

[@ivagolic9215]

Everything bad he could do he did, and still has a platform I mean common. I have been his fan for years and Im just so ashamed that I supported him

[@actionjackson3522]

@@ivagolic9215 You shouldn't be; you were his target audience. Or, more accurately, his targets

[@arsonvamp]

there’s also the transphobia which was coupled with blackface in a really shitty, poorly sung song. making a Bad Art™️ while also being racist and transphobic? triple combo babey!!!!

[@FTMothman]

Action Jackson yep, I was perfect for that, ain’t even 18 yet and already knew the proper signs of a pedo at 6 and didn’t know what gaslighting was and what it felt like until 12 when I stopped wanting to watch him

[@BlueBerry-hn7si]

I am a 15 year old white girl. I cannot remember a time when I wasn't aware that blackface or saying the n word was offensive, or that viewing kids in the manner that Shane does is incredibly creepy. I was raised in a pretty white area of rural Florida, and I was homeschooled until 14. I didn't have a lot of interaction with other people growing up, and yet I can say with confidence that I've never said or considered saying the n word. Shane's behavior is unacceptable. He is an adult, and he should be held responsible for his actions.

[@TheDsRequiem]

You know that you "don't remember a time" like that, because you're literally a child. Right?

[@anasfilmproj]

@@TheDsRequiem she's trying to say that she has always known that it was something that she, or anyone else for that matter, shouldn't do

[@naocreio1]

@roni stay alert pls

[@jsas2047]

Im 17 but same. I think the only time i might have said it was when i asked my parents what the word meant but i would never actually say it to someone else wtf

[@cissyiniguez]

@@TheDsRequiem uhm… how about a woman in her mid 40's who has also known her entire life not to say the n-word, blackface is racist and mocking, & making jokes about diddling kids is a no-no? Wouldn't that demonstrate how a 30-something male, who hasn't been in a world without computers or the www, & who makes his living on the internet, should know just how offensive and creepy he is being? That just makes his claim of ignorance that much more repugnant, unless he truly is a moron. It also makes a 15yo girl much more sympathetic and intelligent than the so-called “empath”. Btw- WTH are you trying to belittle a 15yo⁉

[@coricognitions]

shane: normalizes the sexual traumatization of children shane: i was sexually traumatized as a child and that's why im a bad person

[@the-postal-dude]

to be fair .. if not helped through therapy, abuse victims can become abusers

[@coricognitions]

@@the-postal-dude I definitely agree but he's literally self-aware about it and does it anyways. He's also FOR SURE rich enough to afford very good mental health care, so I see no excuse.

[@the-postal-dude]

@@coricognitions i also agree, just wanted to bring it up since it's more common than people realize

[@Adderall_sorry]

My older sister said she thought things like the n word and black face was funny because she loved Shane’s videos as a kid Shane directly made million of white kids who watched his content think those things where okay

[@Sourcy]

''I don't understand what's so bad about my content, why are people even so offended??.'' .- Shane ''Empath'' Dawson

[@IBL15]

Shane ”Empath” Yaw

[@ham_paste]

Shane is just a bad human that is not good

[@cherbrown1920]

Omg lol fucking exactly …exactly and how many damn times does he have to say “I’m an empath” like he just changes all the time to figure out what suits him best in that moment

[@IamTurkey1453]

@arsh lol

[@IBL15]

@@_ghot_3966 with what

[@thegpshowtheshow]

Is no one going to mention that shane filmed his first apology in his bathroom on the toilet

[@Humptygotadumpy]

Wait are you serious?

[@CharzBoi]

@@Humptygotadumpy yeah, you can see the cover/seat up

[@ilovebigredbus7165]

unrelated but i love ur pfp

[@MichaelHumphrey]

It's an appropriate place to start spewing bullshit

[@wolfishcat7922]

He had s**t coming out of both ends

[@thesleepydot]

I really appreciate you adding CC to your videos. I'm not deaf/hard of hearing myself but occasionally i have to watch videos on a very low volume (to not disturb others) and so CC are useful to me. Also, accessibility in general is a positive thing :)

[@user-me3ge8de4o]

Same, i really appreciate it when people take the time to do captions!

[@JhericFury]

For someone who's apologised so much, you'd think he'd be better at it

[@inserthahafunniusername9656]

Fr that 2018 apology was somehow even worse than that first one 😭 you absolutely can NOT be so aggressive like that in an apology video, you just look worse

[@hgpt3084]

“Noted female anatomy expert JK Rowling” 💀💀💀

[@tunasalad9693]

Truely an expert-

[@randomnerd3402]

GAYYYYYYYYYYYY

[@FishwicksREAL]

@Tiffany Zink nobody cares buddy

[@dusktomidnight7207]

@Tiffany Zink go off as a person who is under the nonbinary umbrella (gender fluid) I hope that guy was not to much of a asshole #transrights

[@inevitablynevermore]

Out by the Water in Cape May I care

[@basicallyaflower7379]

wtf. Shane literally said "she doesn't know how to make a channel, she's black she just knows how to slap a keyboard." He needs to stop making excuses for himself and just stop talking. disgusting.

[@maria-magdalenamineva7718]

What did happen to her? Has she said anything about this?

[@AirLight1646]

“She’s black, she just slaps her keyboard” What does that even mean? I’m so confused

[@llewelynshingler2173]

@@AirLight1646 He's saying she's a moron because of her skin colour

[@-xphobia]

@@AirLight1646 Probably that she's just like a cave man, "oogabooga I just slap a keyboard" it's pretty disgusting. She might have been okay with it but you're joking about an entire race, not just her.

[@-xphobia]

@Raychle Bernoth Which is her own choice, but she really needs to reflect and think why being talked about like that is okay to her.

[@nixymew987]

Man’s just said a foot fetish is the same as a child fetish… 💀 honey they are VERY different things…

[@slutty_vampire]

Shane needed and needs therapy. I am a student in psychology and we learn about treating and finding solutions for someone despite their past ; I can assure you that it can be hard to listen to a r*pist, to an abuser and still stay neutral yet, thats our jobs as therapists. The fact that Shane had a difficult childhood is loud and clear yet, years of untreated traumas and unhealthy thoughts/coping mechanisms leaves someone with a completly broken moral compass and way to act. . While racism/homophobia/discrimination and so on is never inexcusable, it is also unfair to judge someone without taking in consideration the environment of said person. The morals your family gave you as you grew up, the neighbourhood you live in, your close social circle, the job you do, your origins, skin colour and so on will impact the way you act. And so, the benefit of the doubt could be given for the blackface scandal, sexualising young children is another thing. . It could be from being sexually assulted when young and thus, without having be able to talk about it and correctly treat the trauma that followed, it left him with his moral compass completly f*cked up. It is never too late to go to therapy and learn what went wrong, why is it wrong and especially, why are your thoughts so out of the norm without him understanding why. . Shane clearly says about the naked babies thing that, while he isn't attracted to them, he doesn't see why it is wrong if someone is ; thats where the issue lies. He clearly misses an essential part of the mind's development, yet, as I said before, it never is too late to go to intense therapy and learn. . His appologies aren't ones since he doesn't understand what he did wrong, how could he appologize ? For him, blackface was his own ignorance (and, for some of the time, could have been) and sexualising children was either extreme clumsiness or a "kink" that some people have. . I will not take sides, I will just say that I do understand why people are having a probleme with him yet, I must express that harassing someone will never be the answer. Yeah, what a surprise, his appologies are a mess, he seems all over the place, stressed, well yeah, he's harassed by thousands of people while he doesn't even entirely understand what he did wrong. . Before jumping to conclusions, always wait to know more about the situation and remember that pushing someone to their extreme limits will never do anyone some good.

[@whostamera]

As a kid I once attempted to watch a Shane Dawson video but my older brother yelled at me and told me it was spam and if I watched his videos I’d get a virus on the computer. Im so grateful for him 😌

[@DBC428]

Your brother is so ahead of his time😅 i never watched shane’s vids even as a kid but i dont even know the reason why, just felt like i wasnt into his content, so yeah, grateful for both of our conditions lmao

[@slothisasin8240]

The hero we never knew we needed

[@-desertpackrat]

Good brother, whew.

[@hannahb2306]

If I knew what blackface was as a white teenager in the south a decade ago there’s no way in hell he didn’t know about it as a grown man.

[@freeshlavacadoo]

In the south...... you say.....

[@Jogjosmowwdkfs]

Exactly!

[@susansaphire5983]

THANK YOU!!!! I'm so tired of hearing the 'uneducated' excuse. What classes does he believe others were taking in school that they were taught not to act racist. Just being a person is all the education you need. Choosing an attitude of white superiority is 100% a choice, and it's not like Shane was in the deep south growing up, so I doubt that he was receiving racist messaging constantly. This blows my mind, and saying that you need to be better 'educated' to know that Black/Brown/Asian/Middle Eastern people deserve to be treated better tells me all I need to know.

[@freeshlavacadoo]

Stephen Murphy 😴😴😴😴

[@jaclynmccosker]

A lot of people miss the historical significance because white people famously ignore racist history. It’s covered up and not taught to young people. I remember 5+ years ago a group of friends at my college did blackface and I was very unpopular for saying that it wasn’t funny, but I’d never seen blackface in acting. You can use commonsense to deduce it’s probably offensive and Shane clearly doesn’t have much sense, but I always see people comment he‘s lying about not being well-educated on of a form of entertainment that’s LONG dead. Weird hill for me to die on as if I’m defending him, but seeing this repeatedly irks me., You bet my friends understand it was a f***ing travesty they did it now that the topic has blown up on social media in recent years and we all learned about the deeply racist past.

[@mariahfleming1120]

Watching this again now, it's still so gross. And watching Jenna visibly recoil from the nasty shit he said was hard

[@illiatiia]

"Taking accountability doesn't mean feeling bad about what you've done, it's about making it right." Beautifully put. Also, you were such a cute kid.

[@hendgamal8]

I know Jarvis says he doesn’t want Shane cancelled, but after watching this I 100% want him cancelled and gone off the internet

[@yuioyup]

Shane + Keemstar and all of the other YT psychopaths

[@herefortheshrimp1469]

His introduction honestly seems to ...uh...contradict the things he showed in the video. How in the world does all of this NOT show that Shane is a person that actually does deserve to be de-platformed since he never ever learns?

[@user-vg3vu7ub7z]

Tatiana Avery for real...as if these platforms wouldn’t be better off without him 💀 there are far too many other people in this world for anyone to be worrying about a grown white man’s undeserved career

[@hendgamal8]

em ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ absolutely! Why should I care that a MILLIONAIRE who lives in a mansion and will be well off for the rest of his life lost his career for horrible things he continuously does and never learns from?

[@sylviaortiz914]

Antonio E so everyone? On KZbin.

[@EpicDunn5]

"I want to monetize this video, and donate the money to charity." Well Jarvis I hate to break it to ya, but it would appear KZbin has stolen your advertisements.

[@whitealliance9540]

KZbin stole his ads and placed them on this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGjVm3h7oJykb68 omg its really unfair

[@mainaccount1238]

@@whitealliance9540 uh, i-

[@xximaginarxx3302]

@@whitealliance9540 wut

[@youtubesfavoriteidot7714]

@@whitealliance9540 I hate to be rude but I don't want to click on that link What was that video about

[@alexispabon4355]

@@youtubesfavoriteidot7714 anti christ trailer

[@SpookeyKidz]

The fact that he said “I’m too busy to search up photos of naked babies” sounds like he would if he wasn’t?

[@julian3490]

The only thing I am thankful for in the short period of time I watched shanes content is that I found Garrett and Andrew who are two of the most pure humans on earth.

[@hayliemartin5742]

Shane Dawson: I hate my self and had a terrible childhood and that's why I can be racist and also sexualize children. Gen Z: ...

[@69_natalia_420]

Yep our generation is pretty messed up but some of the generations before us are even worse. I mean look at boomers, some aren't bad but others like my father think women are property.

[@biankaperez8220]

Fr we're just over here like 👁👄👁

[@drstrangelove307]

SpnFamily Gen Z need to atone for their mistakes by checking their privilege and helping tear down white society

[@Three_dolla_min]

He’s not using it as an excuse he’s using it as a tool to explain why he did what he did. Not to excuse it but to explain it. If you grow up in a world that is a certain way everyone tends to become that way until somebody finally takes initiative to change it and then everybody starts seeing why it’s like that. Back in the 70s if you were gay 90% of the people thought it was a sin and that you should die or you should go to conversion camps because they were following along to a book that said you should be that way and everybody was like that so nobody wanted to stray from it so that they wouldn’t be ridiculed. If you were surrounded by the same type of thing you were gonna wanna become like that thing you aren’t gonna wanna be different because you aren’t gonna want to be hurt for being different. I had a bad childhood I had a bad upbringing I don’t excuse my actions because of it but I use it as a tool to understand and to explain why I was that way. No I didn’t have the worst childhood or some people but it was still pretty shitty my father ended up leaving me for someone else and decided to father of their children instead of being a father to his child that he already had my mother before that left because of the bad situation that she was in with my father and I wasn’t able to see her very often, I have attachment issues I don’t excuse but I have done because of those with my friends because of the fact that I was left and felt alone so many times in my childhood but it explains it it explains why I have that survival instinct in my head to whoever I can cling onto to cling onto them and never let them go and try to blackmail them and everything just to keep them so that I am not left once again. But that doesn’t mean I’m gonna be like that forever that was in the past I can’t judge myself for the past I can judge myself for what I do now I have gotten the help I needed so if I continue to make that pattern then it becomes more of a problem because I have tried to better myself and I have learned from those mistakes and if I do it again that’s my fault. My friend is an adoptee she has reactive attachment disorder she was Taken in by a good family young enough to where they were able to work on that but she got react attachment shorter because of the upbringing she was in because of the torture she was in before getting adopted it doesn’t excuse how she’ll act but it explains every reason why she was the way she was and she still has to deal with some of those aspects in her day-to-day life now as it is . I am sick and tired of people not allowing people to have trauma and not allowing people to have trauma in their own ways to not allow people to have the same affects that are normalized from other peoples trauma. Every single fucking case of trauma is different just as every person is different every fucking effect from trauma is different. I can make you act one way just so that you don’t get that trauma anymore our brains are complicated systems that’s how when you’re young and you have trauma it can just break into multiple fucking personalities. If you can excuse somebody’s D ID from their childhood then you can excuse other things from peoples childhood because that just shows you the effect that trauma can have on you to where you can be multiple different fucking people just to protect yourself if you were bullied and hated on for most your life the older you get the more you’ll try to feed into what people want so that you aren’t hated anymore if I was being tortured in my day-to-day life or being different in the way to be normal was to joke about Black people and joke about different cultures and all that shit I fucking would because I don’t want to be constantly throwing shit out by everybody I know by the whole world just for being that way pressure gets to you it changes you it changes how everybody is it’s different for everybody how many times do I have to fucking say it you can’t excuse what he did not buy 1 million chances but you can take his upbringing and you can start explaining an understanding why it made him who he was and then you can understand that as the world changed and help everybody started realizing that wasn’t OK how he was able to change and better himself and learn from those fucking mistakes that he regrets and that he wishes never happened and that he is a different fucking person

[@krista_]

Hunter Cleavenger u rlly wrote ur whole life story for 2 likes 💀😭😬

[@momokitty636]

Shane: "I'm not racist!" His own audience: **Provides examples of racism** Shane: *"That's not racism! I'm just sassy!"*

[@pheonix6626]

I had a terrible childhood. I’m 17 and my childhood still sucks. You don’t see me recording myself saying the n word and being blatantly racist and sexualising minors. It’s possible to have a bad childhood and not be a terrible person.

[@angelita2213]

" im not doing blackface im just dressing as a character" i went as Tiana from princess in the frog last year for Halloween and i'm white and i never even thought of painting my skin because that's just common human decency which shane doesn't have

[@ClaudetteVioletta]

Lol I'm Hispanic and If I cosplayed Aurora, I won't whitewashed myself

[@autisticbookworm9686]

I dressed up as cleopatra at age 11 and even I knew that I shouldn’t darken my skin. He had to have known.

[@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821]

I dressed up as spiderman it was cool my mom got me a pumpkin shaped candy bag :)

[@breaunnalj2829]

Bruh I bet y’all were all cute af

[@lethfuil]

@@autisticbookworm9686 Cleopatra was white though.

[@JDubs1464]

When you read “the most oppressed group is white people in the entertainment industry.” I had to look up front my drawing and couldn’t move for a solid 10 seconds. As a white male, I was ashamed that people say those things.

[@arumaru3433]

It's completely untrue. Everyone know that gamers are the most oppressed minority of all time...

[@dylanrodrigues]

Maik! False. Everyone knows that white, male, upper-middle class conservatives are the most oppressed minority in the world 😞😞

[@cinnabard955]

Everybody in the replies obviously doesn’t know what a minority is. Some people need to do research before they throw themselves all over the internet. The most oppressed minority is straight white upper class Christian males with a conservative wife and a son.

[@castlinok]

Hey! I know I’m breaking the thread, but I’m just glad that someone watches these kinds of videos while drawing too! Hah

[@arumaru3433]

@@linkkraft3358 I feel so bad for them...😔

[@serenityfreeman5906]

Revisiting this now, I have a few thoughts. When I was 10 I watched Shane religiously, I didn't realize how harmful it was because I was a kid. My parents found out I was watching him and put a stop to it immediately, and I am so grateful for that, because I fully believe if they didn't I would be a way worse person than I am not.

[@angiadcock8196]

I’ve seen many “offensive” comedians make jokes about race without being racist. They make racism or racist stereotypes the butt of the joke rather than the race in question or POC. Idk what’s so hard about that concept.

[@AmyAberrant]

“Noted female anatomy expert JK Rowling” 💀

[@adfaklsdjf]

I want to understand this joke but I don't want to read the Harry Potter books... can anyone point me to infos? Thx

[@AmyAberrant]

@@adfaklsdjf you wouldn’t have to read her books to understand that she’s a terf

[@adfaklsdjf]

@@AmyAberrant gotcha thx

[@definitelysomething4161]

@@AmyAberrant Sorry to bother, but what is a terf ?

[@llewelynshingler2173]

@@definitelysomething4161 Trans Excluding Radical Feminist. A person who hates Transgender people because they consider Trans Folks to be perverts, a premise Rowling recently wrote a whole damned book about.

[@fx232]

Imagine being so racist that you throw up after being called out for being racist.

[@funfairordnance]

Reality hits hard, huh? XD

[@BrieCheese]

Being accused of racism is so much more triggering and damaging than experiencing racism.

[@69_natalia_420]

@@BrieCheese well I wouldn't go that far, if you put people down because of their skin then you deserve to be shamed and you don't deserve to be called a victim. Saying that being called racist is more triggering and damaging is like saying that be called out for being a rapist is more triggering and damaging than being rapped.

[@natelwood7606]

SpnFamily I think they’re joking but I’m not sure🤔

[@BrieCheese]

@@69_natalia_420 I was being sarcastic.

[@aycarter]

Shane is a perfect example of a manipulator. He shows signs of a narcissistic personality and always projects his issues/bad behavior to be the fault of someone else. He also is very good at manipulation in the sense of guilt tripping people into feeling bad about him or pretending he totally doesn’t know what he is doing and they should pity him. It’s gross.

[@Spunky5]

Im not trying to say you still think this because this was posted one year ago , but having narcissistic personality disorder DOES NOT mean you are manipulative or even near ab*sive. Narcissistic personality disorder is well..a personality disorder, thats all it is. No disorder is inherently “manipulative” or “wrong” because thats just blantant abelisim , which you can look into. Dont compare people who actually have this personality disorder and even can suffer from it at times to a genuine douchebag , they are not comparable

[@aycarter]

My mother has NPD and I lived/suffered with that manipulative nature and mental abuse. An extremely common trait of narcissistic personality disorder is manipulative or controlling behavior….it’s not ableism to define it? Narcissists have a deep need for excessive attention and do not empathize with others. I was not diagnosing him, I said he shows signs of a narcissistic personality. I never claimed he was abusive either.

[@Spunky5]

@@aycarter what ? Just because someone , aka a single person , youve met with narcissistic personality disorder doesnt define that everything they do links back to that disorder. Your mother was abusive because she was a abuser, not because she was narcissistic. Narcissism does not correlate with being manipulative , despite what people may think. Also , low empathy does not equal abusive behavior/manipulative behavior either, thats simply wrong. Having low empathy just means you cant empathize that well with others , even if you can acknowledge the thing deserves empathy or even if you WANT to. People with npd are not monsterous abusers, and you painting the picture that they are is indeed ableist, wether you want it to be or not.

[@Peekabye]

@@aycarter My goodness not everyone who is abusive has NPD or ASPD or whatever! Its gonna surprise you but did you know Neurotypical people can also be bad people? I know, imagine thinking you’re not an UwU victim because you don’t have a mental illness.

[@massivel]

ok ableist.. @@aycarter

[@Noo-My-Only-Weakness-Dying]

Hearing him say that he was 14 in 2007, while I'm 14 rn, and I was born in 2007, feels so weird to me

[@ilovecatssosomuch]

how are you 14 and born in 2007 im 14 and born in 2009

[@Noo-My-Only-Weakness-Dying]

@@ilovecatssosomuch I'm 15 now. You probably already had your birthday this year I assume? My birthday is late September so I haven't had my birthday yet lol

[@ilovecatssosomuch]

@@Noo-My-Only-Weakness-Dying OHHH that makes sense, sorry math is not my strong suite

[@Noo-My-Only-Weakness-Dying]

@@ilovecatssosomuch that's alright, we all make mistakes lol

[@everything_stupid6088]

As a sexual assault survivor, the pedophilic jokes are inexcusable. I still feel physically ill watching these. Like how dare you take something so traumatic and make jokes for views.

[@luthientinuviel3883]

I agree. Nobody should joke about abuse.

[@jetnagle8610]

He wasn’t even using it as a coping mechanism or anything, it was taking advantage of other people’s worst experiences for his own gain what the actual hell

[@everything_stupid6088]

Bridget Nagle exactly. I don’t buy that sob story of using comedy to cope. I get using humor to get through rough times. But my god. I’ve NEVER joked about anything close to that. It’s sick and wrong.

[@everything_stupid6088]

Bree McK thank you. In a weird way because of all of this coming to light, it’s forced me to deal with it. So I guess that’s one good thing. But man...it’s just sad for former fans to see this I’m sure. It’s such a disappointment.

[@shmeepness1700]

Why was nobody disgusted by shane back then? Why is everyone hating on him now? Like everyone even the people he was interviewing with were acting like its normal, I'm genuinely curious