Sirui Nightwalker vs 7artisans Vision Cine Lenses- BATTLE OF THE BUDGET

[@johnlocke3481]

@11:13 that shot was really making me think the 7Artisans was WAY too soft, bordering on just blurry and crappy, but when I look at the floor to judge the focal plane, it looks like an incredibly narrow focal plane and it looks like it is actually slightly in front of batman, so now I'm not sure what to think. There is no way the 7Artisans is as blurry as it appears here, or everyone would call it garbage.

[@smalldeekgeorge]

I have it and its not!

[@UnauthorizedCreations]

I just purchased the 7artisans 25mm cine lens and I actually got it cheaper than the Siriu on ebay. Brand new and it's working amazingly well.

[@jl2899]

just bought the nightwalker set, so keen to try these out!

[@bradl2636]

82mm threads vs 67mm implies a massively higher total cost of ownership if you're heavy into filters. Sirui wins hands down IMHO. The consistency of exposure and sharpness is no contest. These will sell out FAST.

[@danbrockettDOP]

Thanks Jason, I just ordered a set of the Sirui. I had been mulling over the 7 Artisans set but after seeing Jason's results, the Siruis look more practical for me, I don't want too much "character", some of that can be added in post. I've never been a fan of diffusion filters either, went down the Black Promist road early in my career and never going back to that affected look, especially for documentary. 67mm filters are a bonus as I already have a full set of NDs in that size.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Yeah consistency was key here for me

[@remka2000]

As someone with a bunch of 77mm filters - who doesn’t always want to bring a mate box when shooting handheld - I wholeheartedly agree.

[@contentm3893]

@@remka2000 Why? 82 mm thread can be stepped down with a step down ring but not the 62mm going up.

[@contentm3893]

Why? 82 mm thread can be stepped down with a step down ring but not the 62mm going up. Seems like the opposite

[@andresmonterrubio4820]

You just helped me decide. GREAT REVIEW. Thnx a lot, Jason.

[@mojicjohnson]

Which one did you decide on?

[@AstroTitanKiller]

Just got an FX30 a couple of weeks ago and ordered the sirui set this morning, I cant wait to start shooting and learning new things with them.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Certainly a good pair

[@davidwatchesyoutube247]

How’s it working out? Enjoying them?

[@JeffBourke]

Honestly, using these budget anamorphics on a camera that doesn’t shoot open gate, is the very definition of wasting money. Do people seriously care about a few lens flares and some oval bokeh? You’re going to be cropping in on your sensor because you got an anamorphic lense…

[@a7d3nmedia]

@@JeffBourkethese are not anamorphic lenses, nor do you have to crop, only de-squeeze for actual anamorphic footage

[@whitetownfilms2029]

Sirui lens best or waste please tell me sir ​@@JasonMorrisphotocinema

[@GrizDrummer25]

Great comparison! I would never have thought there'd be such a quality difference between focal lengths.

[@filmmakerevolution]

Personally i prefer the 7Artisans, the 82 mm thread size suits my prefered filter size and the bokeh looks ace. Honestly though both great lenses

[@sasqwatch35mm]

Thank you Jason, its right on time, the review I was looking for. Sirui look more consistent between lenses in the Nightwalker series. Appreciate the review, thank you!

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Yeah consistency might be the key for people

[@DynamicPhil84]

The shift in color casting is the main issue with budget cine lenses, since the coatings are never consistent between each lens. It's unfortunate that this ends up being one of the main reasons that lenses with consistent coating retail for much much higher prices, but I guess that process of creating consistent coating is quite costly for the lens manufacturer. Nice review comparison btw!

[@chefbrittan84]

It is a shame. Chromatic aberrations are not a bad thing, if you’re expecting them and like them.

[@potatorigs2155]

the meike are pretty consistent

[@thelazywanderer_jt]

Sadly you need to have scored plenty of weddings for the more upmarket stuff

[@beyondourarena2207]

its an issue, but not the main issue for me. If you read somes many DOP, you will read many times same story : "across all the holywood_brand_of_your_choice line-up lenses, we use just 2 or 3 of theses on this feature, because we need good match about vignetting/contrast/sensation/colors...etc etc" . If you want really perfect match between each shots : use only one lense, my friend. Don't thinks money is the limit. because money absolutely don't give what you think. 😘

[@whatisagent5629]

I’d love to see a comparison between the Sirui Night Walker Cine T1.2 - 24,35,56 set to the Viltrox Cine T1.5 - 23,33.56 set and the Mitakon Speedmaster T1.0 MFT Cine 17,25,35,50 set. Let them battle it out.

[@BenPlays0207]

I hope some KZbinr create a video exploring this topic.

[@Biopsychologistlulace]

Hi one year later have you found any videos or anything that answered your question? Also which do you prefer ? Which is the best for overall cinematic low light footage?

[@babyave]

that nightwalker is sick, i don’t mind that color cast at all

[@Bbarm97]

i have the vision lenses set for my fuji and I have to say the look is really good. I have a 1/4 promist on all of them and actually don't mind the character of the lenses. The only issue is the weight as most cine lenses are quite heavy as these are. Id however comfortably use them to shoot anything at t2 and if I need some more light and character open up to 1.05. if you wish to have no character you just use the 35 wide open and the rest at t2. the 12mm is also great but at t2.9.

[@JamesStreetStreet]

so many lenses.. what a time to be alive!

[@professionalstreamingpr]

This lenses looks good to me I just made my order to take a look in my streamings let’s see what’s happens good description thanks so much my friend this is Joel from Puerto Rico

[@Im_sun_tzu]

Wich lens u bought how's experience

[@professionalstreamingpr]

I have 24,35,55 ❤❤❤ I just loved also ℹ have the auto focus from Sirui

[@Im_sun_tzu]

@@professionalstreamingpr what company and focal length lens will be good for canon r8 Video purpose shorts, reels Pls I'm beginner

[@Ansonandco]

Love this comparison! Great job dude

[@jmzfilm]

For me I think I prefer the widest and the tightest Sirui lens over the Vision but prefer the mid range Vision over the Sirui. Does anyone else think that or just me?

[@fatlipmedia9559]

Pretty keen on that Sirui set ay 👌

[@jakubkacmar9846]

I'm using 7Artisian 12mm with Fuji xt4 for about 2 years and i love it. I've never had any image sofness i would be mad about. I really require sharpness look in video and it is sharp amazingly. I'm working 100% time hand focusing and focus ring is just perfect!

[@sembalo1776]

i do prefer the look of those sirui lenses personally, and the chromatic abberation isnt a huge problem since you can just stop it up a bit and could add a neat look for some situations if you open it back up

[@JonathanPalfrey]

Look nice. Shame no EF option as they work on pretty much anything and would be nice on the pocket 6K pro as well.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Yeah usually if there is ef they are larger to account for flange distance. This would allow for PL mount too

[@nes.torfernandez]

Exactly the same reason I’m not buying them

[@StaffyDoo]

I’m giving you a thumbsup for the good review, and subscribing bc you put the name of the lenses in the name of the video. Thanks for respecting our time and not recurring to annoying cheap clickbait for views 👌👊

[@TwoTimesRmedia]

Great video. I still need to release my review of the 7artisans cine lens. This was great and may be hard for me to compete with.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Everyone has a different perspective. Keep smashing it

[@sergeikorotkov]

Thank you for the review. Just perfect! I've been thinking to get 55mm sirui, but I will stick to my nikon lenses for now and wait for samyang to release 85mm 1.5T for L mount.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Really good video Jason. Lots of great info in this comparison. I have the Vision, and I love the weirdness:)

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Haha weirdness wins my heart

[@ROAMitRALPH]

“Don’t waste money”.. it’s like you’re speaking right to me 😅

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@MageEditz-ontop]

Daaaaaayyyyum😮

[@MageEditz-ontop]

How much?😂

[@NightPhoenixPress]

I know right. 😂😂😂

[@stivan_music]

I got my 35mm sirui nightwalker, and i a m very amazed about this lense 😱

[@headbang3r519]

One thing to note is that the 7artisans is for full frame and can be used for APS-C but and these nightwalkers are for APS-C only. Shooting full frame will provide better image quality due to the bigger size of a full-sensor camera versus an APS-C sensor. And the full frame Venus and Saturn are too expensive for me. Because of that I prefer the 7artisans.

[@samuelmercadante]

That’s 7Artisans lens is not for FullFrame, the official site says “S35 lens coverage”

[@adinbradic7092]

thanks for review. I believe it is not enough to compare lenses in close focus distance only, because lenses behave differently in close focus than in "normal" focus distance.

[@sneakergearz]

What are your thoughts on these compared to the GMaster counterparts. Being as these are film specific. Do you find the extra light gathering or additional focus through worthwhile as a more video specific lens set vs just using the GM set?

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

GM have a lot of versatility if you need that auto focus. Other wise if you’re using manual focus motors then cinema lenses win

[@joshinthemoment]

I got the sirui 24 on the way. looks like I will be getting the 7artisans 35, and gonna keep looking around for a 50

[@MrAyrit]

Really well done comparison. Thanks.

[@nickytrillcollects1332]

Man so much respect to you and your old lady for getting out there in this Austin Texas ass heat to keep the videos rolling! All I hear is people saying that it’s like “a mf deadly ass Heat wave, probably hottest in recorded history” and y’all keep it Pushin not even a drop of sweat on the film! Lol y’all stay strong and cool please lol

[@eppietimisela7118]

Which one is a better combo with my original Panasonic G9; the Sirui Nightwalker 35mm or the Sirui 35mm anamorphic? In december I have family reunion and I would like to schoot cinematic videos. The original G9 has no in body desquueze option [my GH5II has that] and I prefere to shoot with the G9 [has a better focus]. Will it be a perfect match with the Sirui Nightwalker 35mm? Thanks in avance.👍🏾

[@TheFandangovideoguy]

thanks for this...the Sirui are the better ones...amazing budget lenses for my FX30...if I can only afford one, should I choose 24mm or 35mm? for a general use mostly. Thanks!

[@TravelMap]

Qxq_c hy we remember😊t

[@samuelmercadante]

I think you should go on 24mm

[@mohamadawad3175]

Have you ever tried the SLR MAGIC Prime Lenses??

[@BarefootMediaTV]

id love to see this test comparing the sirui vs the gmaster primes

[@noisackda2564]

You're my hero for this. Thank you!

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Thanks for watching

[@Visible-soul]

Wanted to see the focus breathing and roll off! But deffo think nightwalker has the advantage!! Thank you dawg

[@SlavicSon]

Great review! Any thoughts on which set would work better with a BMCC 6 pro? Liking the look of Sirui a bit more.

[@MarcLerchs]

Do you think I can buy this Sirui only for street photography in low light conditions ? Or Viltrox 27mm f/1.2 wil be better ? Thanks if you can answer. :)

[@borislavatatchev]

I thought that vision was better because I had already vision 35mm and 50mm. Today I tested the entire kit of Nightwalker 16mm, 24mm, 35mm, 55mm, 75mm. I had to change my mind completely. Nightwalker for online videos is significantly better. The new lenses of 16mm and 75mm of the night Walker are really excellent. What I cannot stand of the night Walker is the extremely loose gears. I just got the entire kit 5 lenses of night Walker for the price, 1/3 to 1/2 of the vision pricing.

[@lukabalta2398]

Im just sad i did not look for you earlier on YT since i follow you on ig.. you definetly deserve more attention on here for quality of content you provide, from now on im searching for camera videos on your profile first 🤦‍♂️ 🔥🔥👌

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

I appreciate that!

[@radimpalus]

Thanks for the video. As per my experience, even very good lenses exhibit worse sharpness in the close focus area (macro or near-macro). So it might be better to shoot some subject at a bigger distance - best would be a portrait of a person or just a chart. Otherwise I enjoyed the video!-)

[@MichaelRempel-xi4yy]

Test should always reveal what lenses do in useable range. Close shooting is a fact of life indoors. In a review I want to know exactly that. Yeah shooting a chart helps when differences are minor, but here the basics are so distinct and the options so few that it doesnt matter.

[@soundknight]

Very unusual for the T stop to be wrong in the brighter direction don't you think???

[@rhymevara]

This lenses coul be used for Sony E mount full frame cameras ? Whould be a crop factor ?

[@brendonkeyser6567]

Thanks for the very useful info, I think I'll settle for the Sirui .

[@rafael_daguerre]

Excellent review. I recently purchased the Fuji X-H2S and have been researching a lot of cost-effective cinema lenses that I can afford. I'm in doubt between this kit from 7Artisans (12, 25, 35 and 50mm) and the kit from Meike S35 Prime (18, 25, 50 and 75). The Meike kit is more expensive, but seems to be better at focusing ventilation. And maybe in terms of clarity, I don't know. The downside of Meike is that I will have to use an adapter (I have the Fringer-EF-FX Pro III). Have you already tested the Meike S35 Prime?

[@scottrgarland]

Seeing the insane haze on the low aperture of the 7 Artisans is gross. Great video and thanks for the comparison!

[@thelazywanderer_jt]

Dehaze in Resolve

[@whatisagent5629]

Nice. You gonna test the Nisi Athena lenses?

[@p0ggles]

Great video brotha!

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Thank you 🙏🏽

[@Hanisrai]

Will this work on the FX3, which has a full-frame sensor?

[@MindzEyz]

Do the Sirui lenses communicate with the RF system, or are they just naked? Most non-Canon lenses are naked right now. Canon has the best manual focus assist, but nothing has worked with it but Canon RF lenses or adapted EF lenses so far that I know of.

[@altercinema4311]

Ive seen dozens of videos with the 7artisans Photoelectric 25mm T1.05 Vision Cine Lens at T1.05 and it is sharp. Nothing like your Batman shot. Are you sure you had a good copy?

[@cyano3d]

The inconsistent result from 7artisan is such a let down. I thought we finally have a killer budget option from them but turns they don't care about the quality control. Sirui wins hands down

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

I was all for these vision cine lenses until that incorrect T stop. Other then that I do like the lenses

[@cyano3d]

@@JasonMorrisphotocinema but i don't think i will recommend or consider them after seeing the difference in image quality wide open in 25, 35, 50. I have seen many videos but none were as blurry as your set which means this will be a lottery purchase and i don't like playing with my luck

[@CINEMAWORX]

I just bought the 7artisans 50mm lens for my r5c…. I hate the focus pulling. But ima make it do what it do.. 😂

[@Breonnick]

It's not just me? So Awhile ago I bought a Zhongyi speed master T1 25MM cine lens. Great lens but sadly poor rear mounting sense the only thing holding it in place are really tiny screws. So I switched over to the 7 artisans visions T1.05 because it uses bolts instead of tiny screws. I notice with the two lenses I actually had to step down the 7artisans lens to T1.5. I already adore Sirui for there anamorphics so I'm assuming the rear mount is actually built better then the speed master.

[@ajlee613]

is the t stop incorrect on the 7artisans? or the sirui? did you check which one is accurate?

[@4purs]

Hello can you please compare these with slr magic cine lenses as well? They seem comparable

[@AndrewPRoberts]

I like vintage lens characteristics and I don't want CA, so I'm liking the look of the 7Artisans. The bokeh looks smoother too imo

[@Eyeofkamau]

Post indie campaign prices are $349 usd

[@easterlingderek34]

Right now BH photo shows them costing 399

[@Eyeofkamau]

@@easterlingderek34 those are the grey ones. The black ones are $349, grey are $399.

[@dannydobbs8732]

I’ve been looking for a 35mm for a while so this is great!

[@moshikohn5955]

isnt it hard to find the sweet focus point at like f2 or f5.6 plus can you do like a room tour of 2023 would be great plus i own a few manuels lenses and they are great

[@fgp0032]

It's surprising how obvious the better set of lenses is, I thought it would be closer

[@huskvr_]

I'd observed that think 7artisan Lenses focused lil bit forward and made the subject less sharp.

[@DirectorAce]

Would you recommend any of these sets for the fx6 full frame?

[@bonedface]

Bokeh looks a bit different between the two, I'm not talking about the size, but the busyness or the quality of the bokeh. 7Artisans seems to have better bokeh here.

[@meghachakraborty4318]

Can I self shoot using these lenses with Sony FX30?

[@FosterMedia]

That flare test is pants, you need a smaller light source and a dark background, then the Sirui flare like hell, like really nicely. the 24 has these huge rainbows, its beauiful.

[@MichaelRempel-xi4yy]

Are you shooting lens flares or a story? Flares are fine for b roll when you are pausing with nothing to say for a moment. But a 24 is far more useful than for just those moments. I like the test he gave us, it isnt 'the max' possible. It is what you often face when panning a shot.

[@AryanEditzIndia]

is 7artisian 35mm t2 good for wedding cinematography?? please reply sir

[@jonasjacobs8329]

what is the side handle u use, with the record button?

[@Samiam-mu5ln]

"Don't Waste Money", bro, your whole career on KZbin is about wasting money on film equipment that we dont need but want 😅 cmon now.

[@williamaungleyraud]

That comes with the hobby 😂 I've given myself time not to get caught up with the FOMO, like I really want it, but I really don't need it. 🤣

[@user-yk1ie5ep1i]

L comment

[@d.g1598]

I still get annoyingly amounts of grain in shadows with my FX30 even if I film inside during the day. I use sigma 18-50mm 2.8 and sony 11mm 1.8 i already try everything. Is it possible that this lenses improve my image quality? Your short film look amazing especially the low light scene.

[@luissinsin]

"annoyingly amounts of grain is shadows with FX30". I'm guessing you are filming in LOG? If you read up about LOG footage, most of the information is in the highlights and there is exponentially less information in the shadows. What most people do is expose 1.25-1.75 stops brighter (obviously making sure the bright areas that you want information on do not clip) and then you crush it down in post. This should give you much more information in the shadows and avoid all the noise. Do a google search about exposing Sony Log2 or Log3 footage and you should find lots on info on this.

[@benhnamte]

@@luissinsinvery helpful sir thankss

[@darraghkane18]

I think with these it’s so important at to stress that with this process don’t expect your footage to look like it was shot by Chris Menges or Roger Deakins

[@MichaelRempel-xi4yy]

Chris and Roger could shoot with these and look like Chris and Roger. In fact they can look like themselves shooting on a phone.

[@BlackapinoTheTechGuy]

*I want to try out Cinema Lens for my FX30 but I'm confused with these terms like T1.5 and So Forth. If I'm not lookin for Client Work but more in terms of just using these for my Channel would I still go by the 50,55mm like a reg lens*

[@jespersichlau4343]

T1.5 or T-stop is almost the same as f-stop. The difference as far as I understand it is that the T-stop measures the amount of light hitting the sensor (or film roll) and f-stop measures the amount of light going through the lens. This sound like it would be the same amount and most often the T-stop and the f-stop are very similar. So to make things easier just think of it as f-stop but with tad more light.

[@luissinsin]

I think the other two people answered this, but just to clarify. My understanding is that F-Stop is a calculated amount of light going through a lens based on size of lens, number and size of elements and I'm guessing distance. (So, a mathematical way of calculating how much light should go through the lens). A T-Stop is a measured amount of light when hitting the sensor. Therefore, the F-stop varies from lens to lens where as a T-Stop should be identical no matter which lens or manufacturer you are using. (in theory as there may be different methods of measurement or uncalibrated measuring devices)

[@jordanhurd1988]

How was the focus breathing between these lenses?

[@verebellus]

Canyou do a full frame video too?

[@redumbrella4218]

Great job! Thanks

[@mattbondcomposer]

Big difference in chromatic abberation between the two at 50mm

[@JabDFilms]

There is no L mount version for the Sirui

[@Rm3327films]

Did I miss focus breathing?

[@aytothemm.1035]

Once thing ppl forget is the sirui has autofocus still that works pretty great for cine lense

[@lucasj7192]

Crazy chromatic aberration on both dayum

[@1QpVision]

do the Samyang CIne V-AF lenes

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

I’m keen to get my hands on them!!

[@KBFilms2]

Can you us a adapter to use on ef mount?

[@raksh9]

No, these are designed for mirrorless cameras so they cant go to the longer EF mount flange distance.

[@mrbalbastv]

Any reco for cheap lens for full frame

[@jeremymayhew6287]

I keep seeing these and getting excited to look into them, but then I remember I'm 50 and my eyesight says "you aint ever leaving auto focus gramps"

[@carloalcos]

Focus peaking is your friend!

[@froi0416]

no for L mount,just for MFT panasonic....

[@paperstacksfilms]

I personally think the 7 artisans isnt worth an additional $500 bucks especially if the t stops arent fully accurate and the softeness one then when atopped down is pretty much unsuable

[@kristiyangoytchev3005]

What to buy on a budget then my friend? We talk for a cinema lens

[@TheDIYFilmmaker]

Just based on what I see in this video, even though Sirui is more consitent, I like far more the 7Artisans Vision image. The 7Artisans image look more artistic and cinematic, which I think is the purpose of using cine lenses. The Sirui look more like a photo lenses, with no character. That's just my conclusion. Cheers!

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

yeah. I agree. I prefer character

[@jiasheng3498]

Does it support autofocus?

[@robertblood69]

Great video, Jason. To confirm, we're you saying that the Sirui 24 and 55 matched, but that the 35 was a bit off from the other two?

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

That is correct

[@unyieldingflames4729]

sense is about budget then the bigger filter costs more some times waayyy more

[@The_Hydro_Project]

Bummer they are only apsc, was excited for a moment there lol

[@The_Hydro_Project]

@Jason morris did you flick me a message the other day? I have mail from you in the spam folder and just want to confirm it is actually from you? Cheers!

[@mhamadsardarhs]

This is a great video thank you for not making people buy these lenses

[@jorgcash7334]

are both APSC ?

[@side_quest]

this is fantastic thank you

[@quincyforbes1204]

Are these full frame lens?

[@alchapel]

I’m sad that they dropped Nikon z mount out of the list