X-Plane 11 - GPS Approach

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Jason Vriends

Jason Vriends

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@waynesweet8275
@waynesweet8275 5 жыл бұрын
BTW as a 4000 hour flight instructor, never put the flaps down when the airspeed is above the white arc on the airspeed indicator. That's what the white arc indicates; flap operating speed..
@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261
@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 5 жыл бұрын
when he said "we're at 1000ft" he was actually at 250ft right? and is 90kts way too fast in the 172? i thought 60-70 would be more like it. thanks
@AssyrianKing4ever
@AssyrianKing4ever 4 жыл бұрын
@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 He meant 1000 ft MSL (Mean Sea Level) at his call out. When he was on the ground the altimeter reading was 750ft MSL which means when he called out 1000ft, he was at 250ft AGL (Above Ground Level). Approach airspeed for a precision/non-precision approach is 90kts. Non-Precision approach power setting: RPM roughly at 1600 RPM and 750 FPM descent rate. Landing airspeed is 60-70kts in a 172.
@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261
@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 4 жыл бұрын
@@AssyrianKing4ever Are you sure? All the lessons (real life CFIs as well as some x plane vids) i've seen have an approach at about 65-70kts at most, then idle power above runway and land at stall speed (45kts or so, depending on weight/flaps). 90 is very fast and landing at 70 too fast. It seems odd to call out 1000MSL and not AGL e.g. if the runway is 2000MSL why would you call 1000MSL?
@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261
@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 4 жыл бұрын
@@AssyrianKing4ever yeah a little check and you're a bit off with your numbers. 70kts is a standard and widely quoted approach speed, touch down ranges 55kts down to 45kts on average. altitude callouts should be made with reference to ground level, so you would call 1000AGL and definitely not MSL (as i pointed out, MSL makes no sense for landing phase). So the approach in this video seems a bit off, it did seem way too fast...
@AssyrianKing4ever
@AssyrianKing4ever 4 жыл бұрын
​@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 I gotta correct myself there, normal approach airspeed is 60-70kts. In real flight, we cut the power to idle close to the runway threshold and depending on the winds adjust with the throttle. Here is why I said 90kts for the approach airspeed. GPS approach is a non-precision so when in IMC with low ceilings you wanna keep your airspeed at 90kts down to your minimums so you can execute the missed approach. If you break out before your minimums, great. Also, as far as callouts go, I was taught 1000 above mins, 100 above, and Minimums. He may not have had any IFR training.
@davidbrown7307
@davidbrown7307 4 жыл бұрын
For anyone asking why this doesn’t work on the newer version, you have to set the auto pilot to NAV, APR, and GS and it will guide you in both horizontally and vertically. I usually only put it on APR GS when I’m on the final approach.
@RPSchonherr
@RPSchonherr 5 жыл бұрын
Despite the flying faults, thanks for spreading the knowledge of the AP and GPS system.
@GKeithParish
@GKeithParish 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This worked as advertised and I’m glad that I finally found an easy solution to flying approaches and landings using GPS.
@LowOnCash
@LowOnCash 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute perfect Lesson on using the GPS for approach - clear and Precise! thanks so much Mike
@allaboutstatus
@allaboutstatus 7 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. I always admire those that do tutorials.
@vamac53
@vamac53 7 жыл бұрын
jason, good videos. is there a hotkey to turn off autopilot like fsx? and how change altitude without using vsi knob?
@pbsflightsimulationpatrick6286
@pbsflightsimulationpatrick6286 6 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t sure about „Vectors“. Now I know it and have to thank you very much. You did a great job.
@MattRomero
@MattRomero 4 жыл бұрын
FYI all, the current version of Xplane there are a couple of steps that are not shown I think. Like GPS steering, and using heading bug when you hit approach in GPS etc. I will create a video this week consolidating a few tutorials including this one (which is great) for knowledge transfer.
@bran756
@bran756 5 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks Jason,I am a slow learner but your teaching is cool,you don't talk like a auctioneer,and I am actually learning at a faster rate,cheers mate.
@ivanfojan8859
@ivanfojan8859 5 жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY what I've been looking for. I've been flying to radio ils only so knowing this will make a huge difference to me :))
@scooter2329
@scooter2329 6 жыл бұрын
Stumbled across this video after getting sucked into the "You Tube Vortex". Thank you so much. It has enlightened me...
@clayclatur6138
@clayclatur6138 4 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful lesson but there is a problem. In using the updated X-Plane auto pilot this procedure does not work. If GPS is on and the NAV on AP is set, the plane seems to want to head in the approach direction as soon as it starts on the runway, and then runs away. I have tried various other options and cannot get the approach vector to work, It does not head for the target airport. Clearly there is some different way with the new auto pilot and I have not been able to figure it out. Hoping Jason can help.
@toddkalyniuk
@toddkalyniuk 4 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem. I think that you need to activate KDPA when you take off, engage GPS at an appropriate height, then activate the approach leg. Then it navigates correctly.
@kriskeech5253
@kriskeech5253 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great amount of info, as I was having a rough time learing the GPS. I Could select where I was going but no vectors to land. You were a great help.
@paulguaglardi9693
@paulguaglardi9693 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial regarding the use of the system. I'm always learning from your videos.
@FordyHunt
@FordyHunt 7 жыл бұрын
Very clear and concise tutorial, much better than some much longer ones!
@MrNICAULISES
@MrNICAULISES 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!! Learned two things I was doing wrong. Not selecting vectors and activating the approach to soon Lol.... Thank you for the great video ✈️✈️
@knuddel5116
@knuddel5116 7 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a tutorial of the ils approach function of the nav. I dont know, how it works.
@Alan_Edwards
@Alan_Edwards 4 жыл бұрын
After trying this a few times I could not get my plane to connect with the glide slope and auto descend. I tried a few approach options messing with altitude and speed but could not get it to work Then I read the S-TEC 55 AP Manual. It appears you need to hit the Alt button a second time to engage the GS. Not sure if it's due to an older version of the Auto Pilot or me not doing something right, but it's working now. Great video. Very informative. I do suggest everyone read through the manuals under the Cessna 172SP folder. I found some other nice tidbits of information in the Garmin G530 manual as well. AE
@kiran.angggg1453
@kiran.angggg1453 4 жыл бұрын
So press ALT twice on the autopilot menu?
4 жыл бұрын
how did you activated the gps ?
@soulnickos2245
@soulnickos2245 4 жыл бұрын
4:00 how did you activate the gps?
@AlexandreRaymundo71
@AlexandreRaymundo71 5 жыл бұрын
Dear Jason, at 4:00min you activated your GPS using a button from your joystick, could you explain how you mapped this function to the specific joystick button? What is the function called? Thank you!
@ericc7936
@ericc7936 7 жыл бұрын
i don't get something .. at 4:05 you say that the GPS is activated but it was already on at the start of the vid. does one enter Alt for 1100 ft in the ap panel? please clarify i would appreciate it. Thanks if some one can help.
@carlatteniese2
@carlatteniese2 5 жыл бұрын
Dude. You are a GREAT teacher--probably the best flight teacher I have seen. Thank you for this.
@CrayCraigie
@CrayCraigie 3 жыл бұрын
Except for the broken flaps, nose gear damage, and added wear and tear in the engine from high RPM.
@yarsokol03
@yarsokol03 5 жыл бұрын
To activate approch you can also press procedures batton and set the "activate approch" to activet it.
@heenchiidesu3581
@heenchiidesu3581 5 жыл бұрын
I love your tutorial.. There is a detailed explanation in the last video, making me very understand ..
@flyingbatfish
@flyingbatfish 6 жыл бұрын
Again, great job and couple of points for safety: using ground speed as a reference on approach can kill you. Always use IAS, indicated airspeed. As a personal habit, I like to disengage the autopilot a little higher. Taking your eyes off the approach that close to the ground and possibly pushing the wrong button could be trouble.
@arthurbrown7501
@arthurbrown7501 4 жыл бұрын
That was great Jason, easy to follow and got me up and running. Thank you.
@samueljpower
@samueljpower 4 жыл бұрын
What button did you press at 4:01 to activate the GPS?
@rorypullman
@rorypullman 5 жыл бұрын
You brokeded the flaps
@darengardner6219
@darengardner6219 4 жыл бұрын
Yep he did
@3Dprint4you
@3Dprint4you 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Jason. I think I'm finally going to give xplane a try.
@crazykosmikbunny
@crazykosmikbunny 7 жыл бұрын
Wow your videos are awesome, simple and in-depth explanation. Thank you.
@zachvine8458
@zachvine8458 5 жыл бұрын
How exactly do you know when you're close enough to turn on the approach button?
@Rpvmpg
@Rpvmpg 3 жыл бұрын
Jason, I need to use the GPS steering to track the Approach. Also, when I am on final and push in the APR button the plane veers off course. All is good up to that point. What am I doing wrong that causes the plane to go off course? Thank you, Ray
@davidhendriksen
@davidhendriksen 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, @11:40, the "VS" on your Autopilot isn't activated anymore. Did you turn this off or did the plan this by itself because of the approach button that's turned on? When I try this, only lateral navigation works. On the CDI instrument, only the vertical is moving. The horizontal needle is always centered. It looks like there is no vertical "assist". What could be the reason for this? I can see the glideslope on the map for the runway I'm landing on and position of my Cessna.
@scottskinner577
@scottskinner577 4 жыл бұрын
Ive tried Vectors to Final several times now from KDFW to KDAL just as a warmup. The first leg, instead of going to wp Myles, it flies away from it bearing 313. Only way I can go toward the wp and DAL is to hit REV on my autopilot. Got to be a simple mistake im making somewhere.
@rbsims6376
@rbsims6376 4 жыл бұрын
Question: Can you use the default ATC plus GPS approach together? ATC might come in handy if you're at an un-familiar airport and have to taxi...Just asking...Thanks for all the great tutorials...
@TheSmallRabbit
@TheSmallRabbit 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have any experience of flying an approach using the newer 530 LIKE AP. Something I have noticed and it may be something I am doing incorrect is that when I am flying to the approach on NAV plus the auto steer function is activated (pressing NAV twice). If I press APR somehow the plane veers off course ??? Are there any major differences to using the newer AP LIKE to the one in the video please?
@peterdepra
@peterdepra 5 жыл бұрын
Yep - the same problem. There's something missing here.
@mr.martintorres5804
@mr.martintorres5804 5 жыл бұрын
@@peterdepra Try this: Be sure to set the ILS frequency in NAV1 by using the Map feature. Try setting your Heading Bug to the same number as your runway number. This needs to be do before final approach. This should keep you on course once the APR button is pressed. Press the APR button once within ILS range. Then press the ALT button twice until only GS is displayed. Descent should begin. The AP is rather different than in previous versions of X-Plane. For example, disengaging the AP is now done from the red button on the left side of the yoke. Cheers and good luck.
@Karlsmarten
@Karlsmarten 5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.martintorres5804 Why should we tune NAV1 for the ILS frequency? Wouldnt that just make it an ILS approach? The point of this video is GPS Approach
@Karlsmarten
@Karlsmarten 5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.martintorres5804 as someone else said it seems we just have to allign the heading bug with the runway.
@gscottfuller
@gscottfuller 4 жыл бұрын
Helpful video, thanks for this and other X-Plane videos you've done!. Just after you activated the APProach button on the autopilot, you went to an extended exterior view. We missed the critical point at which the GPS and AP captured the glide path and the plane started descending. I have had a lot of trouble getting that to happen with this LPV approach. Very frustrating. I've read the S-Tec manual and tried repeated attempts to get vertical guidance using the APP or even the ALT pressed twice. Neither work. If anyone has any thoughts, please comment. Thanks.
@paoloMG58
@paoloMG58 Жыл бұрын
As usual, Jason in a very good teacher, I believe the best for virtual air navigation! In this case I have not been able to replicate the video because when I reach the last leg and I push APR, the plane turns unexpectedly on the right and lose definitely the right route to the final approach. I know the video is using an old version of autopilot, but I have have not been able to do the same with the new current version. Did someone do it?
@fergomez7413
@fergomez7413 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason. Can't get the APR to operate as described in your video. Following instructions to the letter. Any thoughts on what I am doing wrong, please? When I press APR the plane heads away from the correct path. Thank you very much.
@PowerAirSimulations
@PowerAirSimulations 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, I have a question about using the default atc or even 124th atc and the Garmin 530. all of the videos i see, i see them open up the atc put a few way points in then start the flight with ATC guiding them all the way. But i have yet to see a video of someone using a Cessna with a garmin 530 and having them use the GPS for the flight plan that they put in. Is there a video like that out there? can some one explain to me?
@mikeodiorne8414
@mikeodiorne8414 5 жыл бұрын
Kind of late in the game for X Plane (version .40 here) but what exactly are you clicking on (I hear an audible click in the video but dont see you move your cursor) to "Activate" the gps for the approach. Sorry if its a silly question, but I just cant seem to get the 530 to set up for my approach. Im flying into KAUS from KEDC. Its only about 13nm's.
@TheRangerDale
@TheRangerDale 4 жыл бұрын
Jason I been following this video to get me 530 to follow thru what you did , step by step . I guess I should ask being I see this video back in 2017 , and my XPlane11 is 11.40 , which maybe 530 now does not follow these steps ? Is this true?? Dale
@brunoadank6308
@brunoadank6308 6 жыл бұрын
...great.....thanks, is very helpful....Bruno from Switzerland
@manfredthewonderdog6084
@manfredthewonderdog6084 6 жыл бұрын
You say, "great, our GPS has been activated". Perhaps I'm just ignorant but I wish you would say what you do exactly to activate the GPS at that point. It's really frustrating? I hope someone can help?
@Rabarebane
@Rabarebane 5 жыл бұрын
He switches on the autopilot. look at the left corner of AP display, you can see AP sign coming on. This is older type of S-Tec, on newer XPlane versions there is no separate "AP on" button but AP is switched on by selecting correct mode directly (in this case pressing NAV button on the AP panel).
@petervandentoorn376
@petervandentoorn376 5 жыл бұрын
In my case i had to press the nav button of the autopilot twice...
@Rabarebane
@Rabarebane 5 жыл бұрын
@@petervandentoorn376 You are correct, I missed that. For GPS Steering (GPSS mode), you do need to press NAV twice as per instruction manual: www.x-plane.com/manuals/S-TEC_Autopilot_Manual.pdf (page 22). It is one press for VLOC tho.
@RaoulsRandomVideos
@RaoulsRandomVideos 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rabarebane Can you tell me, why the moment I turn on the approach with GPS navigation, the plane starts to turn off course?
@Rabarebane
@Rabarebane 5 жыл бұрын
@@RaoulsRandomVideos Hei, one of the latest versions of XP11 changed it so that if you are flying a plane without HSI (like cessna 172), you need to set HDG bug to ILS front course yourself. It also affects the GPS LPV approach. See page 25 of what i linked above. Quote: Before transitioning from GPS steering mode to APR (Approach) mode, set the Directional Gyro HDG (Heading) bug to the final approach course for the runway.
@aikidoshi007
@aikidoshi007 6 жыл бұрын
That was great thanks, particularly the little recap at the end, many thanks!
@sturisa
@sturisa 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason, why not just activate the approach when ready instead of activating the leg?
@Ansalsan
@Ansalsan 6 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Excellent, thank you. Antonio from Brazil.
@tubeztoonz
@tubeztoonz 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Easy to follow!
@lalawyer11
@lalawyer11 4 жыл бұрын
How does the approach selection tie in with ATC instructions?
@murattekir5899
@murattekir5899 4 жыл бұрын
When will I activate approach on GPS? I dont mean the APR button, but the Activate Approach selection for the GPS. Thanks.
@ruthlessadmin
@ruthlessadmin 4 жыл бұрын
The AP getting into those oscillations is annoying. I've had it happen in other sims too...Does it happen irl? By the time you get done correcting for it, you might as well have just flown manually.
@MattRomero
@MattRomero 4 жыл бұрын
Really awesome tutorial! Im starting to learn again GPS and ILS approaches and nav and you're videos are a god send!!
@tnield9727
@tnield9727 4 жыл бұрын
Is vertical speed managed by this at all? Or just the lateral movement?
@justin-we1bv
@justin-we1bv 6 жыл бұрын
Do I need to be below the glide slope in order for the auto pilot approach to work? Like do I have to intersect the glide slope?
@waynesweet8275
@waynesweet8275 5 жыл бұрын
So the approach is Activated by clicking the APR on the autopilot and not using the GPS Menu button and selecting Activate?
@jayhegame3230
@jayhegame3230 6 жыл бұрын
Great! So if I follow these steps, but don't hit AP (I'd like to hand fly it), I will still course guidance from CDI when flying the RNAV?
@christophermichaelson9050
@christophermichaelson9050 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@crazygunny66able
@crazygunny66able 5 жыл бұрын
you activated the gps but did not show how to turn it on! :)
@scottskinner577
@scottskinner577 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of things I would change about the video itself. Including zooming in the GPS each time to close to full screen. Most people dont watch these things on widescreen PC screens anymore lol
@earlglover6091
@earlglover6091 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottskinner577 i do
@scottskinner577
@scottskinner577 4 жыл бұрын
@@earlglover6091 I said MOST PEOPLE. And I know thats an accurate perception because, this is how people made videos 20 years ago, when I spent hours in front of my pc. And there was no tablets or smart phones. Everyone did.... *back then* But I feel ya lol
@jeffhodge2276
@jeffhodge2276 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I presume he just switched from NAV to GPS to activate?? Also, he activates the approach before taking off, because the last waypoint is so close to the runway.....so, what if the last waypoint is farther away from the runway?? I guess you go back into your GPS and activate the approach while you pass your last waypoint??
@lavankumar4659
@lavankumar4659 3 жыл бұрын
He turned on auto pilot, as it was already set to use GPS.
@mr.martintorres5804
@mr.martintorres5804 5 жыл бұрын
Using X-Plane 11.34 this tutorial refuses to work for me on 4 separate attempts. I can create the flight plan, activate the noted leg in your video, but once I activate the auto-pilot nothing happens. The plane seems to be flying to a VOR location?(not sure) The magenta line appears for the first waypoint (GIDVE) on the Garmin but there must be a subtle change with the Garmin or the way to activate the auto-pilot. For example, recently, disengaging the AP in the Cessna has change. Perhaps there is something different I am missing. I will be delving into the X-Plane manual tonight.
@mr.martintorres5804
@mr.martintorres5804 5 жыл бұрын
I think i just found the solution below!! Although I think it needs change is pretty major and needed to be more readily communicated. Looking forward to giving this another go. Aivar Avalo 3 months ago @Peter van den Toorn You are correct, I missed that. For GPS Steering (GPSS mode), you do need to press NAV twice as per instruction manual: www.x-plane.com/manuals/S-TEC_Autopilot_Manual.pdf (page 22). It is one press for VLOC tho.
@mr.martintorres5804
@mr.martintorres5804 5 жыл бұрын
Sooooooo, I got the GPSS mode to activate my flight plan leg, but like what others have said, when activating the approach, the plane goes off course sharply to the right, off to who knows where? More research......
@mr.martintorres5804
@mr.martintorres5804 5 жыл бұрын
So I learned from another video that a few minor things need to happen for the approach button to be fully effective. First, ensure the ADF is disengaged, (Found on the co-pilot side) Second, From the Map, ensure that the ILS frequency is set in NAV1 Third, Set heading bug course to the same heading as the runway of final approach For example, my final approach runway was KOMA ILS14L. Setting the heading bug to 14 was crucial to remain on course once the Approach button was depressed. Fourth, once in ILS range press the approach button, then press the ALT twice until only GS is showing. Final descend should begin. Continue to maintain speed, set flaps as appropriate. Minor deviations to the center of the runway can be tweaked through the heading bug. After doing all of this I have a successful landing!!!
@crms1965
@crms1965 5 жыл бұрын
My Cessna doesn’t have the ap button please tell me what is wrong
@kolbydunning5061
@kolbydunning5061 5 жыл бұрын
Cristián Montes they updated the aircraft, you don’t need the AP button anymore. What you do it select what you want for Autopilot, to disconnect click the red button on the yoke.
@claybwagner
@claybwagner 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Us noobs appreciate these videos!
@mikavanraamsdonk2933
@mikavanraamsdonk2933 4 жыл бұрын
How do i know at wich waypoint i need to set the apr.
@qijun8859
@qijun8859 4 жыл бұрын
i used s-tec 55 to approach, when I clicked twice on ALT, GS appeared, however, the plane didn't descend at all. do you know why? Thank you!
@lpappas474
@lpappas474 4 жыл бұрын
One recommendation I would make is for you to land the plane as close as possible to the stall speed. Your main mounts should touchdown before the nose wheel, and try to keep the nose wheel of the runway for as long as possible. Let aerodynamics lower the nose wheel and not by relaxing (yoke or stick control going forward) the elevator control.
@galoon
@galoon 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I think he might have bent the firewall and/or broken the nose gear had that been a real-life landing!
@lpappas474
@lpappas474 4 жыл бұрын
@@galoon Most of these people have never heard about the types of landing accidents caused by strong cross winds and excessively hight touch down speeds as the pilots tries to force the aircraft onto the ground. Here is a good video (second landing) on a pilot porpoising down the runway in a Piper Cherokee 140 that rips of the nose wheel. .
@AquaStevae
@AquaStevae 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, nice vids. I have watched a few of yours now. I think you do a good job, but there's one thing wrong in this vid. Man, you don't lower flaps at that speed, or you will do structural damage to the aircraft. And in the new XP11, you can actually tear them off of the aircraft. I would suggest looking at the section on speeds of the aircraft, which goes over all of the archs and colors of the speed indicator instrument. Other than that nice vid.
@letsseeif
@letsseeif 6 жыл бұрын
C172:- Use 65 knots as recommended approach speed for full flap (90kts is Maximum for 15 degrees or less if possible; ie. never apply f15 over 90kts) & once over runway, slowly lift nose to burn off speed trying to keep aircraft just above runway but level then very slow sink from say 20 feet (but don't balloon) letting the aircraft sink nose up until ground contract ideally as stall warning screech begins. Flapless approaches at about 80kts in heavy crosswind only, then kick rudder opposed to wind to stop weathercocking & wing low aileron into wind to keep wind side wing down. [Actual Pilot]. :-)
@svtpete83
@svtpete83 6 жыл бұрын
In an R or S model 172 you can deploy 10 degrees of flaps at 105. 85 for 20 and 30. I don’t think flaps 15 degrees are an option...
@letsseeif
@letsseeif 6 жыл бұрын
@@svtpete83 . Thanks. yes. So long ago now. in the nineteen sixties and early seventies when I did most of my C172 c182, c150, C210 flying, I did lots of 'for fun' night circuits at a very dark rural grass aerodrome north of Melbourne (4 million then)Vic Australia. Although not too far out of this big city, take offs & landings into the north were usually 'black' as they faced a 3 thousand foot mountain a few miles ahead, whereas going south the city lights seemed extreme. I recall, one thing in circuits was on passing the runway threshold whilst going downwing, was to immediately turn base & on 172s, pull off power, applying pitot heat whilst trimming so a glide at 60 knots as those oldies (nearly new planes then) allowed 40 degree flaps. the entire approach was at 60kts with a bit of judicious power at times. One memorable night, the guy in fromt of me was flying a C150, & as I turned final & called 'called final' the 'speaker' squealed as the C150 ahead called 'MAYDAY' at the same time! He ended up on the boundary road with no more than a bent nosewheel & a cut leg (due to hasyy exit). The C150's engine was so small, that the carby heat 'blanket' failed and iced up due to the long glide on a cool night. it made history, as every C150 on earth was subsequently modified to alleviate this problem. But, yeah. I loved the 40degrees on the C172 because a good pilot could land in a very short distance. i heard that Cessna went to 30degrees to save law suits from 'newbie' pilots & others who Cessna felt couldn't handle 'flaps 40'. You have to remember that the GA fleet of lighties was then being marketed as a car alternative, (laugh) so an absence to head sets! I'm nearly deaf as a result.
@williamleadbetter9686
@williamleadbetter9686 6 жыл бұрын
@@letsseeif also this X-plane 11 fellow is too high and fast on final.Folks do themselves a HUGE favor by learning to hand fly land taildraggers 1st,then switch to Tri-gears. I got some time on cubs , champs, and citabria. Next is the Pitts. I'm looking forward to that
@letsseeif
@letsseeif 6 жыл бұрын
@@williamleadbetter9686. You're right as far as I'm concerned. I'm a Melbourne (Vic0 Aussie and learnt @ 17yo in1957 on on DH-82 Tiger Moth biplanes. Also did lots on DHC Chipmunks and Austers. ALL were tail wheel (or skid) and the art of good three pointers was invaluable. Usual approach (full glide with Handley Page leading edge slats (top staggered forward wing) was 58 knots, but we were also taught "Precautionary Approaches" at 45knots indicated - long low almost flat approaches for short fields (Tiger Moths had NO BRAKES). Rather 'nose up', these were power on until over threshold at which point just above the surface, one cut the throttle & it sunk onto the grass (they had no tail wheel, just a directional skid). 'Ag Pilots' & people like me used this technique on v short fields. After the Tiger, Chipmunks were LOOXURY 'cos they had tail wheels & differential brakes for stops & steering. I noted then that airlines pilots routinely did three pointers in DC3's, up through DC6B's & other big planes as a lower airframe stress landing. (except as in Tiger Moths, a (level) wheel landing (ie. level) (not 3 pointer) were the go in heavy wind with airliners. I note that all rebuilt old airliners routinely do "fly on level" these days, maybe because pilots never learnt 3 pointers, but probably not to damage someone's pride & joy. :-)
@lavag2
@lavag2 5 жыл бұрын
yes, 61-65kt. It was a nice tutorial film. But landing speed was odd. Pass threshold at 86 and touchdown at 76... That is high speed. It should bounch or something. I will ignore that part because approach was the topic at hand
@aikidoshi007
@aikidoshi007 6 жыл бұрын
Hi again, I've done that a few times now, works fine, but if I try the same plan but instead of choosing vectors I choose the ILS approach via BOWEN I find that when it starts the turn at BOWEN the GPS keeps turning itself off and the plane heads off in some random direction. Any ideas what I need to do (or not do) to stop it please? Many thanks, Steve
@kylethacker1037
@kylethacker1037 7 жыл бұрын
At the beginning when you immediately activated your approach because it was only 0.3 nm away from your last way point. What would you say is the max nm before you would load it in rather than immediately activate it?
@davidcloudninerorg6635
@davidcloudninerorg6635 7 жыл бұрын
ATIS or Approach control will tell you the active runway or by listening to radios. In the real world you would not load GPS/ILS approach until you know winds and which runways are in use. You can also request an approach sometimes, for sure on Pilotedge. I use NAV or HDG button to get within range of 20-30 deg intercept and below Glideslope. Being outside of reasonable intercept angles and altitudes can confuse a GPS. They often will try to intecept the next leg etc. and miss GS entirely. Pull up the free approach plate at SkyVector. Hope this helps. Good Luck!
@mahakad
@mahakad 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tutorial! QUESTION: As soon as I hit APR button, it starts flying towards HEADING even if there is no HDG button pressed. On display it says NAV APR GS?
@flyingwithsafvan3186
@flyingwithsafvan3186 5 жыл бұрын
How will this work in vatsim For example I told them I am doing a ifr flight to EGKK From EGSS letd day they tell me active runway is 26l so do I just put in the 22r vectors approach and continue
@kiran.angggg1453
@kiran.angggg1453 4 жыл бұрын
Approach gps doesn’t work for me. Why? Nav does work though
@gurindergrewal772
@gurindergrewal772 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video. Very informative for me.
@tjohara947
@tjohara947 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this tutorial. It is very helpful. I did try to follow along and things went well. But I noticed my plane followed the GS correctly but stayed a bit to the right of the Localizer needle. Yours were perfect. I tried approaches at different locations but the plane always stayed right of the Localizer. I generally take over and land manually when I am close in. Is there something I am doing wrong or do I need to make some adjustments to my instruments/settings? Thanks
@mr.martintorres5804
@mr.martintorres5804 5 жыл бұрын
Set the Heading Bug to the same number as the runway number you're approaching. When the approach button is pressed you can make small tweaks to the runway center through incremental adjustments. Also ensure you have set NAV1 to the ILS frequency of the runway. Even small deviations to a frequency setting can throw you off. Worked for me, but have not tried this with Jason's GPS approach, only in an straight ILS approach. Good luck.
@matteobenedettomanini598
@matteobenedettomanini598 5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.martintorres5804 hi, did you eventually try with GPS approach? Does the heading bug adjustment work also for that?
@mr.martintorres5804
@mr.martintorres5804 5 жыл бұрын
Matteo Benedetto Manini Yes GPS approach works. I believe the autopilot just works differently than it does in Jason’s tutorial here. Moving the heading bug to the approach course heading does the trick.
@samuelpavez5736
@samuelpavez5736 2 жыл бұрын
At least I find something that helps me to landingnin ILS mode, thank you
@wernermampaey5025
@wernermampaey5025 6 жыл бұрын
verry nice video i am a beginner from belgium in europe. it is not simple
@kylethacker1037
@kylethacker1037 7 жыл бұрын
One last thing, how does the autopilot automatically the altitude, because when I was landing it wouldn't automatically decrease so I had to do it manually
@davidcloudninerorg6635
@davidcloudninerorg6635 7 жыл бұрын
1) The apr(approach) button on AP must be pushed. NAV or HDG button (horizontal guidance only) first and then apr button when within a reasonable range. 2) Generally you must be below the glide slope (GS). 3)The 530 should show LPV in green highlighted area. 4) Pulling up the free approach plate from SkyVector will help a lot. 5) You need to be before fix HEGBI at approx 2500 ft (TRACON will assign alt and vector to intercept) or within 20-30 deg intercept angle or it will guide you to next leg and you will miss your HEGBI fix and glide slope. I use Airfoil Labs 172sp which has a much better AP KAP 140. I don't work or receive compensation from AFL. Well worth $35.
@billyjay4672
@billyjay4672 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason just came across your site and I would like to ask as a complete novice what I really need to start flying thanks in advance for any help from you.
@wetestap
@wetestap 4 жыл бұрын
Why disengage the autopilot before landing? It will keep your heading perfect.
@Diga6ft
@Diga6ft 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks f you great videos, but I could not find the video where you enter a complete flight plan. New to X Plane 11 but used FXS for long time about 100 hours.
@JasonVriends
@JasonVriends 7 жыл бұрын
Have a look at this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/naTEamqKma18nqM
@tyler_glasgow
@tyler_glasgow 5 жыл бұрын
I follow your instructions exactly, yet on autopilot my plane literally flies the opposite direction of the waypoint which is activated. Any idea why this happens? I'm using a demo but I don't think that should matter. Thanks.
@Kreemerz
@Kreemerz 6 жыл бұрын
when you say, "time to slow the plane down", are you pulling back on the throttle to do this?
@RPSchonherr
@RPSchonherr 5 жыл бұрын
No he's not and what he did if in a real plane would have damaged the flaps. He extended them above the Ne speed for Fe. 85 kts is the maximum Fe speed.
@jon-ue6rf
@jon-ue6rf 7 жыл бұрын
What screen ratio are you in there, I like the set up of whole dashboard and centre view, I think Im on 65.0 ratio
@JasonVriends
@JasonVriends 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't actually adjust the screen ratio. What I did was use the default view, then zoomed out using "," or "." until everything was in full view, then used the arrow keys to move into the middle and up. Once you are happy with a view, you can press CTRL+Number to save the view.
@Banksond
@Banksond 7 жыл бұрын
Is that CTRL+Number on a Mac or PC?
@JasonVriends
@JasonVriends 7 жыл бұрын
PC but there might be something similar on a MAC.
@zachvine8458
@zachvine8458 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain how he used autopilot to take off? When was it activated? When the GPS NAV was turned on?
@igo7397
@igo7397 5 жыл бұрын
I would advise you to take off manually
@rolfbauer8700
@rolfbauer8700 5 жыл бұрын
How did you activate the GPS after takeoff?
@salomon3343
@salomon3343 6 жыл бұрын
Great presentation .just in real life flaps are extended withing the white line of the airspeed indicator. To prevent flaps structural damage. Could cause a spin. But great tutorial.
@cemigh
@cemigh 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I great for gps instruction ! but never put your flaps down at that speed in a real 172. And flair your landing s . land on the rear wheels and keep the nose wheel off the ground as long as possible. The stall warning should come on as you touch down
@hovikabrahamian3801
@hovikabrahamian3801 2 жыл бұрын
You are Great, you explain nicely and understandably how to set GPS, but most people with LAZINESS, do not show how to set GPS and insert Plan. that are LAZZY and
@ericc7936
@ericc7936 4 жыл бұрын
when selecting approach i guess waypoints are added; is that correct?
@cxzmyc
@cxzmyc 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, I've done everything you've done exactly the same but my aircraft can't seem to find the glide slope? It keeps flying straight.
@JasonVriends
@JasonVriends 7 жыл бұрын
First, make sure that your radio is tuned to the correct ILS frequency. When you are close, open the X-Plane map. There is an option (switch) to show the glide slope. Select the runway and then you can see if you flew over the glide slope ( possibly too high ).
@cxzmyc
@cxzmyc 7 жыл бұрын
Jason Vriends thank you it works now! I love the videos, keep up the great work!!
@Kpaojd
@Kpaojd 5 жыл бұрын
Please make an updated one!
@dereksmith3382
@dereksmith3382 5 жыл бұрын
I tried and it goes the absolute direct opposite way it should go
@ossasdr3319
@ossasdr3319 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because you need to put the heading bug onto the runway direction of 020.
@steve1000017
@steve1000017 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, great tutorial. I am new to xplane and have tried to follow what you do on screen, but my plane misses the way point. Any idea what l may be doing wrong?
@ksmith610
@ksmith610 5 жыл бұрын
You lowered your flaps at 120 knots??? And maintained full throttle once achieving altitude??? 🙄
@MrNight-dg1ug
@MrNight-dg1ug 6 жыл бұрын
When I enter the 3rd person view and move around, my autopilot disconnects and my phone isn't calibrated, and can't be pitched down in the ground.
@enzosly
@enzosly 2 жыл бұрын
Jason are you from chicago? Do you still fly?
@casq882
@casq882 4 жыл бұрын
At the time that I turn of the autopilot, my trim makes my plane to stall, so you know how can I configure that? I use Saitek multipanel AP together with the simulator AP .Thank you
@briankramer9690
@briankramer9690 4 жыл бұрын
That one initially threw me for a loop as well. I eventually realized he was using the "old style" autopilot that had the AP button. So I'm guessing he set the NAV and V/S, but waited until he was at altitude before activating by hitting AP.
@peterb2560
@peterb2560 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason I tried this flight plan and i fail miserably.I have a couple of questions regarding pre setup on ground . I select NAV then try to set the VS +5 but as soon as i put these setting in the trim wheel goes crazy rotating full up then full down and continues this until i deselect nav . Is there a setting in game that needs to be changed. also after activating the GPS button it starting to deviate from the flight plan. any help in this matter would be appreciated.
@clayclatur6138
@clayclatur6138 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue. I think the new auto pilot process is different but I have not figured it out.
@nofrills00
@nofrills00 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this.. I'm pretty new to this, but do you use the ATC in conjunction with the flight plans you create?
@JasonVriends
@JasonVriends 7 жыл бұрын
When you press Enter to open the ATC, it will ask for the Departure AP, Arrival AP, and flight level. That is enough to let the ATC make it's own flight plan. However, you can use the box below to enter in waypoints to fly your own flight plan.
@Banksond
@Banksond 7 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to download your flight plan from the GPS to the ATC without having to fill in the box below?
@davidbandini3484
@davidbandini3484 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video, I have one question....the 'flight' is from KARR to KDPA,it isn't? sorry but I'm relly beginner
@rackum44
@rackum44 5 жыл бұрын
You have really smooth frames and nice scenery, can you do a video on your settings?
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