Jatco CVT Overhaul JF011E RE0F10a/b

[@celanindzabandzaba4056]

2 years later, allow me say that this is the best presented video of Teardown and assembly of aa Transmission I have ever come across. Thank your for your great work Mr. thanks to me I have basic Mechanical engineering knowledge, and would now fix my car. keep up the Great work there Jatco.🤝

[@TENNSUMITSUMA]

'thanks to me...'?!

[@johnmwangi6291]

I don't watch TV anymore.... thanks for your time..

[@siuautomotive]

Lol, I’m glad you’re enjoying them!

[@Maxwell1989]

@@siuautomotive can you review the cvt-8 that's in the Nissan rogue and Altima

[@y.d.8117]

Also do you know if every speed sensors need washers ?Because when I took off my sensor there wasn't any washers...

[@EvaComiel-kt7gr]

​@@siuautomotivepak bisa ngak di terjemahkan ke bahasa Indonesia,,, soal nya saya mau belajar transmisi matic ini menggunakan ke bahasa Indonesia,,biar saya lebih paham pak,, maklum saya baru pemula pak ,,, trimakasi saya dari Medan,,, mekanik mobil,,,

[@EvaComiel-kt7gr]

​@@y.d.8117apa fungsi dari sensor kecepatan itu pak, untuk di mobil bertransmisi metix,,soal nya ingin tau fungsi nya,, mohon di balas ya ,, saya from Indonesian,, wilayah Medan,,,

[@CL-yp1bs]

Alot of people trash stuff when they are taking it apart. You do a very nice and clean job of disassembly without damaging parts. Great job!

[@billcornwall5696]

I’m loving watching this guy use a speed wrench, a lost art!

[@anthonygrant317]

Fantastic demonstration, now I feel better about buying a car with a CVT. Your video will be my technical go to if I ever have open one of those, or even understand what is going on driving with one.

[@timc3148]

Make sure you keep up with maintenance the fluid and there two filters on them that need to be changed. Do your home work and get this done by a qualified trans shop that KNOWS these transmissions inside and out. If they tell you you don't need to do this walk out the door.... they don't know what there talking about.

[@Brettdyt]

Your video was super helpful to me. My Mitsubishi Outlander broke down with P0868. I didn't want to spend $20k on an overpriced used car so I bought a junkyard transmission. I have never worked on a transmission before but I was able to follow your steps and replace the transmission pump and flow control valve. My car is running great now for about $2k and my labor.

[@WebsterGroves09]

Took the Jatco transmission home today. Wish me luck.

[@liamcooper6721]

Thank you for the tear down and inspection for these CVT's. You have renewed my hatred for CVTs. Its simple enough but still got a headache just watching. The CVT-8 is a little different but similar enough

[@Chuckseese]

I've been stumped with the stepper motor alignment with the follower pulley listening to backyard mechanics lol now I know the proper way to line it up 😆 thank you

[@rowdyrickshallr9305]

Most professional and well done auto tech video I've ever seen. Thanks

[@mnz1151]

It is an incredible video, all details, information, reminds, very well explained, put the time to do all this, no rush, and what a great instructor. It worked for me as a reality check, that not being a mechanic, I will never be able to do this on my altima 2009 with bad transmission. Thanks very much.

[@chrisczarnik3439]

Great video on the disassembly process of JATCO CVT. I personally would never buy another car with a CVT transmission after owning Subaru with one. Never again.

[@MyLife2020]

Agree 👍

[@P_double_H]

Agree.. Nissan and Mitsubishi owner here.. both failed.

[@jmschull7184]

Really nice job of explaining the entire rebuild process start to finish. I have a bad Nissan Jatco in a Cube and I hope I dont have to rebuild it, but could with your video. Thank you!

[@lo1234-w9r]

Uffda...make one mistake and it's junk....just the parts to do a complete rebuild are $1200-1500. A rebuilt one is $2-3 thousand, depending on the model. 3 grand may seem like a lot, but really only 4 monthly payments on the average new vehicle.

[@fredc8618]

​@@lo1234-w9r100%

[@nanotedot]

Amazing videos, amazing presentation and teacher and what an amazing piece of engineering these transmissions are.

[@rickgilbert7469]

The absolute best instructional video on the net. Thank you!!

[@gertroewer152]

Hi. Fantastically informative. Thank you. I am in Australia and we have a 2012 Suzuki Swift Sport with CVT. Car has had a young mother and our grand daughter, a novice (but very careful) female as owners of this car from new. Car has only 80K Kilometres on the clock. Within 12 months of our girl getting the car the CVT started slipping and got to the point where it is undriveable. We took it to the Suzuki dealer for diagnosis and quote and the only thing they would contemplate was replacement with a new transmission at a cost of a little over $9K AUD. They refused, or could not give details why the transmission had failed. The car is in beautiful condition but is not worth that much. Other transmission specialists were contacted and all reports were very negative. We were told that these transmission are "Throw away", cannot be repaired, and that the parts are not available anyway. So now we have a nice bright yellow monument sitting on the back lawn. I am an experienced mechanic and your video has given me the incentive to have a shot at repairing it myself. But if the parts I need are not available or prohibitively expensive, I would be wasting my time. Do you have any advice for me? Thank you. Gert Roewer, Jindera NSW Australia.

[@siuautomotive]

Thanks for watching the video. 5-7 years ago many shops had the same attitude about rebuilding cvts here in the states. Now many shops are rebuilding these because there are so many out there. I guess in your situation, you’d want to do research to see about parts availability. You might find out how much it would cost to have parts sent from the us to you. Slauson.com has a ton of good used belts and pulleys. The transgo drop in flow control valve is a good product and I’m sure it’s available through parts suppliers worldwide. When you pull it apart, the pulleys might look bad if the belt was slipping, but it’s likely build up and the material will probably clean up. I wrote an article for gearsmagazine.com for their January issue. You can read the magazine online and that issue includes a buyers guide. Download that mag and learn more about the cvt and check out some of the suppliers. You might find what you need!

[@gertroewer152]

@@siuautomotive Thank you. Very helpful.

[@CM-ch5vc]

Hi Gert, did you ever find a solution? Also in Australia with the same car.

[@gertroewer152]

@@CM-ch5vc No Clive not yet. Granddaughter has another car and this car is gathering dust. I don't have a lot of time but hope to get to it before too long. Has your trans failed too?

[@CM-ch5vc]

@@gertroewer152 no mine hasn't failed, its shuddering on deceleration and sometimes won't up shift if revving around 3-4k rpm, i can also feel what seems to be a slight slip. I think the last person to service the transmission has used the wrong oil type(pink color) I have been sourcing service parts for it from the dealer, all coming from over east or Japan. This sort of explains why the CVT in this has a bad reputation, I think people don't service them or if they do, they dont use oem spec stuff as it's hard to source them locally, also pricey. From what I've gathered, it's very easy to damage with the wrong fluid and recommended is the expensive Suzuki green fluid. I did a drain and fill over the weekend with correct fluid but not much change. I intend on getting a full drain and fill as fluid is still coming up pink when new fluid is green. There is also an external filter which according to suzuki is not a serviceable item, wrong! I had a look at mine and that thing was is extremely dirty for a filter(100k km on car). I have called a number of wreckers around and this transmission is known for its scarcity and quick sell, so even when they have them, they sell them for close to 4k because of this. There's a specialist in NZ that reconditions them and sells them worldwide including Aus. He also supplies parts/guidance to guys that rebuild them here. He wants ~$3,400(2,800 + 600shipping) excluding GST.

[@brysonclouthier5135]

By far the most helpful video yet, my ‘13 3.5 Altima has been doing the classic stuttering since I bought it 20k km ago, haven’t been sure what to do when the trans goes as I’m broke, but I think this might give me the courage to try and take my time rebuilding it when it goes

[@emmancastillojr.5938]

Have you tried changing the CVT Fluid?

[@brysonclouthier5135]

@@emmancastillojr.5938 yes, helped a bit with the noise coming from manually shifting. The owner before me said it had EVERY fluid changed when I bought it, found out that was all except trans and it had never been done until I did it at ~9.5 years and 135k km. So I think damage is sort of done

[@bobbieprice1351]

​@@emmancastillojr.5938do you have any tips on best fluid to put back in these cvt transmissions? Any miracle additives help? ,,mine has started sliping,,only goes 5mph!,,,Help with any advice 😢

[@fredc8618]

​@bobbieprice1351 any fault codes?

[@ewhitefo73]

Great video explaining and showing how these work, my daughters Mitsubishi CVT just died, I suspect pump or seal, went from working fine to the very next morning a loud whine and low pressure code. As mentioned in other comments the lack of parts to do a full rebuild is what is most scarey in owning one of these, and even more scarce is a new one at a reasonable cost. Feels like 150k is about it. If I owned a lift and unlimited time I would go ahead and pull it out just to do it but sadly not many people do. It seems there is a huge niche for a shop that just does these transmissions and ships them back but I suspect the lack of parts is keeping this from happening.

[@allanguevarra3469]

this is call, professional instructor!!! thank you very much sir, now I know, & I learn a lot from you, how to test valve body, because in honda always recommended replace valve body if there's something problem in gear shifting & have D.T.C. code. now I know, what I will I'm going to do, to test the main valve body. once again thank you very much sir.!!!! God bless you and your house hold, for your sharing with us.

[@renesanchez2310]

Awesome job of explaining The entire rebuild procedure, Thank you Sir!

[@abdulmajeedjal-harbi242]

Hi How to come to Saudi Arabia to fix my CVT gearbox for nissan altima L33 😂 Transmission suddenly malfunctions without warning 😂 I contacted with Nissan Saudi Arabia They checked transmission and the problem was the chain was broken.😢 I asked them to fix it but there is no professional technician and the only solution is changing the all cvt gearbox 😭 it costs 9000$ Then i bought used Transmission The i changed the Oil and Filter I see the transmission is good is pure with normal driving but when i put half race the car is sutter sometimes on 4.5 to 5 RPM but with full race it's clear 🤔 I checked out all the car's cumputers are normal every thing is normal So that what do you think about this problem?

[@anurabanagala7174]

Quite an educational video. Masterful display of the technique. Congratulations!

[@bertcochran1770]

Very skilled with that speed handle.

[@timc3148]

I have owned two Dodge Calibers w/CVT and absolutely love these transmissions. They are a very safisticated and mis-understood piece of technology. I wouldn't use these trans missions in a high performance application but as far as I'm concerned for the daily driver looking for economy with a little bit of care and propper maint schedule I've gotten plenty of mi out of them both. My 2009 was sold with 185k mi and my current 2008 has 175k mi and works great. This video was nice to see how they work and the actual what there made of. Again the proper application of this trans it is a marvel to me to see what it is made of. Ty

[@frankanthony5662]

How did I not see your channel before .. fantastic, thank you subscribed!

[@douglasmcdonald3083]

Sean - the no#1 issue with these trannies is wear in the flow control valve in the pump, and the bore can get worn too. This can lead to low pressure and damage to the pulley assemblies. The aftermarket has a fix for this.

[@siuautomotive]

Yes sir, I have a video on rebuilding essentials that covers this. One thing I didn’t cover yet is how the inside of the pulley wears like the inside of a barrel. Some builders put .035” piano wire under the seal to take up that lost space. Thanks for watching!

[@andreasalexandrou4113]

Thank you for your content, I was wondering about the below: 1. what is the exact purpose of Neutral? Is it just for emergencies such as towing the car, or should we engage neutral at traffic lights etc? 2. Would it be harmful to the transmission to engage in sport mode while on the move i.e for overtaking or for driving uphill? 3. Finally, I was curious on the effects of start/stop systems on CVT's Thank you.

[@jeffhenderson9516]

Good job explaining the details, gave me the confidence as far as the jf-1 puller, good luck finding it available. The posi lock 210 worked great.

[@todslkdkd2127]

Great, thank you! One question: this wasn't shown in the video, but you obviously took this piece of welding wire (holding the ratio control valve link) out before putting the pan back on? And what happens if you miss this step, do not put anything in that hole? The linkage can fall apart when assembling? And what does it result in, car would not move, or just not shift? Because I have a strong suspicion that the shop which replaced the solenoids on my valve body forgot or didn't know about this step. Thank you!

[@P_double_H]

I'm astonished to find out that the pulleys don't have threads on them. It's weird that the belt grabs against the flat walls of the pulleys and won't slip. That really blew my mind.

[@codyt4012]

Have you done a video of 17' honda cvt transmission overhaul? This trans looks very similar but also different in a few ways. Mine has a nasty shutter on acceleration, like a clutch pack gone bad or something. The push belt looks great and the fluid is super clean.

[@kenny240]

Hopefully I don’t need all of this, but this video should be very handy in the coming months when I go to do a mild recondition on my JATCO CVT.

[@overkillaudioinc]

the one thing they didn't show is the bearing that goes between the forward clutch drum and the reactor plate. it is VERY important to get that bearing installed correctly or you will tear up your reactor plate...ask me how i know...

[@dietmarstahl8888]

If it's slips just do a CVT flush at Valvoline. Do it every 60,000-80,000 miles. Bring your own Nissan CVT fluid then it runs the best. My CVT has 300,000 mile (I drive Uber).

[@Mopar_illmatic]

Honestly man, this stuff needs to be changed in the Nissans every 20 to 30 K and you’ll have no problems with them

[@IconMaintenance]

Great step by step video! Very concise and clear. I was curious if the Subaru CVT would be similar in design and rebuild process? Thank you

[@edwinalexander1170]

Thank you for this wonderful explanation and dismantling of the CVT transmission , these transmission normally makes whinning noise, where is the whinning noise coming from? ? And what is the best CVT fluid for Nissan Transmission that may make transmission last longer ? ?

[@Bill-oy2dr]

So these transmissions can be repaired. I'm about to dig into mine this week

[@markmangano1731]

Outstanding video the best I saw so far Mark Mangano dependable auto thank you so much

[@amaranuwan3193]

Thanks heaps. is this similar to Mitsubishi Outlander 2007 CVT? I am going to fix P0840 error. This is the best video lesson. A-Z tutorial. Thanks again

[@siuautomotive]

Yes sir!

[@islandbeaches395]

Where is the lifting points on the transmission for a chain hook up or hook? If the torque converter drop out the bell housing during installation and hit the ground. Can internal damage happen inside of the torque converter?

[@alexmozmtl]

Wow, outstanding, thank you so much! When they say not to chnage the transmission oil in an older car (200k miles and older), if it was never changed previously, which parts could be impacted in a negative way by the fresh oil?

[@siuautomotive]

The main reason people say don’t change the oil on high mileage transmissions is because the new fluid has great detergents that will break loose varnish and gunk and potentially hang up some valves. Varnish doesn’t really build up in transmissions like they used to, so it really shouldn’t make a difference. If your fluid is really dark though, you might be taking a risk.

[@ETPitt]

I've been avoiding Nissan since mine died. Bought an Outlander hoping for the best and now I'm learning this Jatco is also used in my Mitsubishi??? I've ended up here because the car is losing power and I'm 99% sure it's the tranny playing up.... this looks like a marvellous piece of engineering, perhaps still in early stage, and us drivers end up coping the price!

[@Alex-kp2db]

Been around 50 yrs or so.

[@craftrunner]

Have you done a stripping down and rebuild of a 2000 Honda logo sportic Ts transmission please thanks

[@ivaniramirezc]

buenos dias, la caja cvt 7 m4m de un spark usa la polea de 29 o 30 dientes, creo que es una jatco jf015e, gracias good morning, the 7 m4m cvt box of a spark uses the 29 or 30 tooth pulley, I think it is a jatco jf015e, thank you

[@AbstractSurrealist]

Interesting video on CVT

[@fredc8618]

The reverse piston spring is there another name for it or a part #? I looked it up cant find it

[@MeaHeaR]

Does one have to coat belté in Trans Gel beforé Assembly ????

[@dietmarstahl8888]

Can you replace the valve body and the.gears with the belt without taking off the transmission from the engine???

[@mostlymoparih5682]

At 1:08:50 you put in a new oil cooler filter along with a fresh o-ring. Could you list the company and part numbers for the filter and o-ring? Thank you. Happy Motoring.

[@kurtgood2914]

How do you know if belts are damaged in cvt transmission, will it move or any noises

[@DavidReyes-fd3qz]

Great video Sr and super easy to understand, thank you for being good human being and shearing your knowledge

[@abdullahkarakal4945]

Hello, I have a question. There is a humming sound in the Nissan X Trail 2016 automatic transmission. Everyone says it is normal between 20/40 km/h. What is the solution? It does it even when you slow down.

[@gigio1106]

Good afternoon. I had a secondary rotor failure and changed the complete variator. After the replacement, the vehicle drove 100 miles without any problems, without jerks, it mostly worked great until the pump hummed and suddenly lost power. Now the vehicle runs normally and only suddenly loses power. Do you know what it could be and what to check. Thank you!!

[@censoredeveryday3320]

Can you do a Jatco re4r01a tranismission overhaul video? They are pretty common in a lot of Nissan/Infiniti cars/trucks

[@Taner-Aydın]

Can I find the data sheet of the jatco transmission model number used in the Qashqai j11 2016 model cvt?

[@BeardAxeMcAxeBeard]

This man is a national treasure.

[@user-cl5nr8sw5g]

Did or does this trans typically have shims in the cover that holds the pully assys? We just took one apart and it has shims. Do we simply put those back?

[@stevenv2190]

I would like to see a similar video of the K312 transmission for the Toyota C-HR - and find out where the defect is in it. The Turkish CVT transmissions are not holding up well for some reason. There are many reports of this transmission failing in 2018-2020 C-HR models

[@barbarahunt220]

Done rebuild using the Jatco manual and then found your video, I done everything you explained very well, however no matter how many times I’ve checked behind myself. The forward clutch doesn’t seed flush. What is most common reason for this issue? Thanks Barbara

[@TheGambit1116]

Can you tell me what all the torque specs are for doing this rebuild? With a 2010 nissan altima cvt?

[@jeffberkovatz9796]

Great video I have a 2004 Nissan Murano. And I would like a quote from you how much to rebuild one or do you have one already built. And if so how much

[@MeaHeaR]

I notice this CVT does not havé any Accumulators. Is that because Accumulators are unique to conventional Linear automatic transmissions in that they are needed for e.g. soft apply unt release timing, where as this CVT has a simple planetary gear set that just needs clutches for reverse (carrier held) und forward clutch only ?????

[@y.d.8117]

Hi how to identify the right position of the drive sprocket...I tried to look for during the video but I can't see that ...

[@Lake_Lover]

Greetings from your neighbor of the north - Parkland College. Nice video !

[@siuautomotive]

Hello there Mark! Thanks for watching and say hi to everyone for us. I was just talking about AJ Ross today. Hope things are going well for you all!

[@Lake_Lover]

@@siuautomotive Hello. I work in IT at Parkland, know JR . Done my share of wrenching. My son just ate 5K on his Pathfinder with a CVT which brought me to the video. I'm just amazed at transmissions. Wish I could learn and try a rebuild/repair some day. My sons Pathfinder had the low speed shudder etc. Nice video you guys did. Getting ready to retire in a few years. Maybe I'll drive south and take a auto class. LOL.

[@wolfcot14]

Thanks for the very informative video bit you did not mention any recommended torque upon assembling specially around the valve body

[@alexrod4694]

This is a great video. Very informative. I got a Nissan Sentra 2017. With the code P285A. They are telling me to change the transmission but do you think I can just change the valve body assembly. Forward does not work but reverse works so I don’t think it’s the metal belt. I would really appreciate if you can reply to me and let me know what you think. Thank you

[@gregprice7562]

Is there anyway to prolong life on these cvt's ? like flush change filters every year , deeper pan add an aux tranny cooler like on my 4l60E ? I just got a newish mitsubishi with a JFO11E . no issues but i want to try to make it last.

[@perrycollins26]

Which solenoid that causes the po776 code its called the B solenoid which one? Thanks

[@urighht]

Great video. I am hoping you respond. I have a 2009 Nissan Murano with a transmission range sensor issue and when you the gear selector Park and Reverse show on the cluster but no N or Drive and but it does move just limp power. P0705 is the code so I am trying to figure where the trans Range sensor is or the nuetral switch is? I did replace the stepper motor but did not check that the rod it connects to that springs and moves freely but i plan to go back in and check it out. Can i send you a video of my valvebody so you can see it operate without the pan on to see what my problem is? Do you have an email? Your thoughts? Thank you

[@bountyflyer]

Very nicely done! Thank you!

[@andreadanone4682]

Good morning.I would like to know at what mileage it is advisable to partially or completely replace the oil and filters. Congratulations for the video that is made and explained really well. Many thanks

[@christurner6430]

I'd change (part-flush!) the oil at half the maker's recommended interval and do the filters at the rec'd interval. You must use the recommended oil. Also watch The Wizard on u tube.

[@andreadanone4682]

thank you for the valuable advice. I have one last question: excuse me but where do I find the Wizard on you tube. can you point me a link. thank you and have a good day.

[@ronsautojax]

I'm getting codes for A and B pressure control solenoids. Could that be the valve body? Its a 2014 nissan rogue AWD. It goes in gear then when it time to go to what would be 2nd gear it loses it. Like its slipping.

[@bigglilwayne7050]

Will a 2006 Nissan Altima CVT interchange with a 2013 Jeep Compass CVT???

[@mohamedhelmimedimagh8233]

Thanks for the great video ; Ihave a 2007 4x4 Patriot the rpm jumps after 140km/h but no more speed.That started after I flushed the cvt oil and changes the filters. what do you think the problem is thanks

[@FranklyFrankie94]

Hi. Great video! I been messing with my moms cvt using this video as a guide. I wanna rebuild it in the future but I have a question. Where do you source a kit to overhaul all these parts on these JF011e's? Finding stiff online but some of it doesn't seem to trust worthy.

[@Cholonwa]

If you swap the bell housing can you put a Nissan Roque CVT in say a Suzuki kizashi?

[@davidngigi4493]

very good this is a complete training thank you for your time

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

If I was able to Get a New CVT would it be easyier to just take my TCM out and switch them so I don't have to deal with Nissan for a Flash???

[@josejr4482]

I have to ask, I have a 2016 jeep compass that I believe has a plugged up valve body. But all the mopar recommended remain valve body are pushing 1,000$ could I get away with using one Im searching for a Nissan rogue? They look exactly the same but Im not sure if they are.

[@jameschinonso2330]

thanks a lot sir for this great video, just a quick one pls, can i use three jaw puller to pull up the secondary pulley gear. thanks

[@siuautomotive]

Yes sir, it should work fine

[@michaelmooney6701]

Teacher, can I use loctite 518 on that case, thankyou

[@alialasadi8143]

Hi i got jeep patriot 2013 mk 2x4 has transmission problem it's says secondary solenoid stuck on . So which solenoid should buy can suite my car please

[@michaelpellettiere2196]

can the rom on my jeep compass cvt vaive body be replaced without removing the valve body?

[@fredc8618]

Do we need to use an "arbor press"?

[@limitedmark]

Great video , do you overhaul Audi multitronic CVT as well?

[@phillippardo5712]

I hear grinding from from where the axel fits into the drive gear at stop and go crawling speeds. Is this normal?

[@fideltorres587]

What about if I forgot to install the shaft pin what effect would I have??

[@arfrce72]

Can you do a video on the re0F10E way different than the a/b

[@Carlos-ip2ir]

Is this the same version in mitsubishi lancer gt 2012

[@AdminRLSchreiber]

Well done. very informative and detail. You make it look easy but I know it is not.

[@jareklosinski6678]

Dose someone know part number for return piston spring/pre load spring? Great video by the way

[@mediapercy-uu5zg]

My jeep compass 2008 2.4l is only driving with one gear and not changing to other gear what could be the problem?

[@helenterrebonne8283]

where are you all finding just the pulleys and chain/belt for a JF017E?

[@jovanblocker325]

I'm rebuilding a RE0F09B I need pulleys and belt can I use them from a RE0F09A?

[@mxz7192]

Do you know how many teeth are on the drive pulley for the JFE011 in a Chevy Spark? It should be either 29 or 30

[@SrColon309]

Excellent video 👍🏻 I think that transmission is pretty good

[@ashleymateo3034]

Nissan vs mitsubishi cvt which is better? Thanks guys

[@smiddy19801]

Hey, do you know what size the pressure ports are on these? look like M14 x 1 but struggling to find that size

[@wilfredomarquez2879]

Very nice explication ez to understand steps by step thanks for sharing and also how to used the tools especial that pulley very important tool God blessed you

[@siuautomotive]

Glad it was helpful!

[@kurdo.iraq2]

@@siuautomotive sir, why the pin from the hole was not removed before installing the pan?

[@lords2112]

ty...i did quite a few of these...that follower rod...is a pain on all of them....lol...i keep you saved ,just as a reference...) Awesome clean explanation...i did run into a few where the oil.pump had no seal...i dont know if i would really trust that area to seal well..for some.odd reason...lol..also they don't tell the world ..you not suppost to tow or do netural drops..lol...peace.i4i.