Jaw Dropping GIANT Living!! 2022 Grand Design Transcend 265BH

[@lorenebradford3983]

I like the layout. Sometimes I go to bed before the kids and with all the entertainment towards the back... they might not be as loud.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It’s a good “settle down kids” kind of model for sure. Let them zero out back there

[@dennisgrabowski7738]

Can't wait for someone to come out with a no slide, east-west bunkhouse that's large SUV towable. Love, love, love the no cave, open bunks.

[@SteamPilot29]

We have a 2021 Transcend 265BH (and love it!) -- as for the over-the-bed storage, we got some soft-sided baskets which work very well for holding additional clothes, hats, etc. There is a little lip on the front of that "cubby" area which keeps the baskets in place during travel with no issues.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY Brandon! I wondered if little baskets might not work wonders up there :)

[@GmanHB]

Is this half-ton towable?

[@charlenecastaldo3602]

Love, love, love the open bunks and this floor plan. Thanks Josh!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

You are so welcome!

[@americanrambler4972]

This one grew on me as you went through it. The more I saw, the more I like. I would stick a peeper window in the front door. More light. Ii like the kitchen. Like the walk through bath layout. Like the pocket door. Don’t know why they are not used more often. Good quick stop pooper access. I like the doors are color coordinated with the siding. I like the way the steps retract into their own storage area under the floor. Makes for a cleaner road mode profile. When kids are gone, the rear bunks could be yanked and the rear giving area enlarged. Or remove the top or bottom bunk and make a loft or office space. Oh, on this unit, put some wheels with a little more bing on them to brighten up the dark Addams family manor look on the outside. One reason I consider peeper windows important on the side doors is safety and security. Always take a peep through the window before you open the door to check the surrounding area. Plus your able to scan the area as desired or needed.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It really grew on me as well. I’ve seen layouts kind of like this before, but really spending time in one and picking up at finer details you learn to appreciate it

[@PreppingAngel]

I'd yank the bunks and tiny cabinet and move a sofa bed up there with a TV. Just in case I ever need somewhere for someone to spend a night. Maybe a small PC desk for my laptop with the TV and sofa. I wish the floor wasn't raised. lol. Personally I love Addams Family/Munsters colors. I even have 2 black cats. The kitchen sink and stove kill it for us. I don't like the layout. I'd rather have the sink under the window and a space between the two. I know I would hip bap the stove controls. Washing dishes if I put them to dry in the corner. I'd have to lean over the stove.

[@tedcharp]

Great floor plan. Thanks for sharing Josh👍👍

[@loneapple440]

We really enjoy the "road mode" as it gives us a better picture of what to expect.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Good to know! It's kind of a pain and extra timesink sometimes but as long as people keep wanting to see it, then I'll keep recording it! :)

[@chevyboygaming643]

Yes! Thank you Josh! I love this layout!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I really like it too

[@Kevin-qj7fp]

move the towel holder to the pocket door then give us more storage near the sink for medicine cabinets (more like a wall of storage with the mirror and sink on the left side 👍

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I really feel if they closed in the storage next to the shower than that would be less of an issue but yeah that wouldn’t hurt

[@kathymckinnon5775]

The walkthrough bathroom is great. It makes it so spacious. Cubes are great for storage in the open shelving or any storage area to keep items from sliding around. :)

[@pattigrigsby9762]

What a great floor plan, I like openness of the bunks. Wish the slide had windows on all three walls. This is a nice bunkhouse camper.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

We agree! (Jen- Josh The RV Nerds Other Intern)

[@davidaz6622]

I definitely like the unique layout with bunks. I'd like the option for a window in the door or a small side window. Nice job on the video.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Well thank ya!

[@Tokenontwo]

Great video as always Josh! My wife and I were patiently waiting to see if you'd do a walkthrough of this unit! I must admit the "SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON" actually had me minimize the video and smash it haha. Keep up the good work!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It’s such a stupid phrase lol

[@iamwhatiam4075]

Cool layout for those bunks. Great trailer. Tyfs Josh. All I could think of, when you were talking about the weather, is; somethiing like "having more fun than a tornado in a trailer park". A bit on the nose, yes, but still made me chuckle, with that Larry the cable guy voice in my head. Lol

[@kellyms7230]

Love it! Even in a park setting, this works well! My mother who has a walker would easily be able to maneuver through the unit, and the bathroom too. Will have to add this one to my top 3. How the heck am I going to choose!?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Why decide. Just get one of each

[@jonathonhigham2793]

I really liked this model when shopping some time ago, my wife elected to go with the bigger 297qb. @10:07 we pretty much use the space above the bed for hoodies, jackets, extra towels and blankets.

[@bengorrell2658]

I bought a 200mk last year, build quality was outstanding. It's a tight trailer, no drafts even at 110 outside the A/C works great without being overtaxed. I did put foam boad in the kitchen skylight and over my big south facing slide window

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Good stuff! Thanks so much for sharing!!

[@MSully-xd6ls]

My wife and I have been watching your videos for a little while now,,,,,Love em! I hate that they are dropping doors for cabinets just to save a few bucks. A small door is preferable to no door. It makes them seem cheaper built. Also I don't understand the upswing doors, not a big fan. Thanks for all you do! I wish we could have found this channel before we bought our TT( Kodiak 20QB), It would have saved me A LOT of gas looking around checking floor plans. Keep it up!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Regardless of what you got or where you got it I’m just glad that you’re here 😊

[@andrespencer168]

Lol! Love that R&D comment! I have to be honest I'm glad you're getting the opportunity to review Grand Design products and share your comments. Always appreciate them - good or bad!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I really appreciate the little things they’re doing differently

[@Prabagosatx]

Hey Josh Great video, I came upon it as my trailer, same model you show here, is in the shop for some trim work and I needed to verify the A/C so I can order my RV Airflow Kit. A couple of things I thought would be of interest is, as you mentioned, pulling this with a 1/2 ton is cutting it close. I am currently pulling this with my 2017 Lincoln Navigator utilizing a Blue Ox weight distribution hitch. We have to be sure when loading and distribute the weight on or in front of the axle's to reduce sway, of course keeping the tow vehicle at 55 MPH. Trust me, my first few trips saw my brown knuckles turn white! LOL. Unfortunately, because my Navigator has an electric suspension, I cannot beef up the rear with air bags or any other options to bring the front of the vehicle down a bit. There is some sag but again it's all about weight distribution but this is better pulled with a 3/4 ton truck. All in all, this is a great concept and design. We are first time RV'ers and we definitely went through a lot of lessons learned the first few trips. One thing I wish Grand Design would've done is add better lighting to the exterior. You can see it in your video that all it has under the awning is a thin light strip. Good thing is that there are plenty of LED light options to get creative but this would've been a nice final touch. We opted for the theater seating option and all in all are pretty satisfied with this unit. Our kids are young and I can see them enjoying this for years to come.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I cannot tell you how much I appreciate insights like this from REAL owners I hope you continue to hang around and share some comments on things you see as we roll more videos out!

[@benjaminlenze1026]

@prabagosatx is your navigator the short wheelbase or the long wheelbase? Also what tow package came on your navigator? I have a short wheelbase 2018 expedition with the heavy duty tow package

[@barbbalit8892]

This is our model and we LOVE it! We have storage baskets above the bed.

[@haroldcreek9653]

Like it when you show ROAD MODE! Very helpful.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad to hear that!

[@seanmarshall7680]

We have this model (ours is a 2021). We love it! Lots of features for the price. Love the videos, Josh! Keep ‘em rolling!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Man thank you for sharing!! Seems like a lot of happy transcend owners out there

[@seanmarshall7680]

The units themselves are outstanding and the customer service from Grand Design is top-shelf!

[@judithmoore7892]

Well, a family has more than one towel, so yes, put some more towel bars on the sliding doors.

[@atptravel]

Hey Josh! We have the 2022 265BH and LOVE IT! we opted for the Theater Seating so the grands can all sit with us to enjoy a movie or two. We only have one USB in the bedroom, and we don't have the solar monitor in the wet bay area.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah I think they also if I would be really awesome and this one. I’d love to see it

[@atptravel]

@@JoshtheRVNerd I can send you photos! I just don't know how to do that via KZbin.

[@diverm2371]

Great video. More Grand Design trailers please.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

More to come!

[@StormyRiver8970]

I think this just made my top 3 rv's/ layouts!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Man a LOT of folks saying that!! Ty for watching :)

[@CatRichardBojangles]

Me and my wife bought the 2024 265bh and love it. The only thing I wish it had was some sort of tall cabinet for brooms etc. other than that it’s perfect for us.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Awesome! Glad it treats you well

[@myrandabrown]

Where you recorded this video in Eldridge Iowa. The now Bish’s, formerly Terry Frazer RV, is where we bought our 2014 Cougar. It was a toss up between it and a GD Reflection. We had ZERO issues after purchase so they do excellent PDI because we all know there is no perfectly built campers.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yes it was!

[@richl8438]

Just saw the 2024 with the theater seating in lieu of the dinette. Very cool! So open. The dinettes are typically so uncomfortable to sit at for a long time. Plus, we only use a dinette for briefly eating a meal. With the theater seating, they give you a folding table or we eat outside.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That’s definitely how I would go about it

[@YvonneJustesen]

I love the plaid cushions! ❤

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

😊

[@deniseyoung7050]

I love this one. I prefer that the bedroom door does not have a window. Gives me much more privacy. I do want the livingroom door to have a window with a black out shade.

[@MrNickb-s500]

Very nice, especially The kitchen layout, good counter space and some excellent leg room space in the bathroom 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks so much! 😊

[@MrNickb-s500]

@@JoshtheRVNerd My pleasure Josh buddy 👍🏻 And Thank you for working so haed Putting out Great video reviews for All your viewer's!👍👍👍👍👍

[@spiderthenimble]

GD finally giving a way to remove that "Plaid" from sight. LoL. I've seen this one once before. Love the concept with those rugrat racks. Don't personally need them, but it's done very well in this model.

[@KristenHeptinstall]

Rugrat racks, lolol 😂

[@wasson65]

We have a Grand Design Imagine 2150 that has the same mid bath. It is AMAZING! Huge doors, plenty of room for drying off. Sliding doors are never in the way. It’s the bathroom space of a 40’ fifth wheel.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Awesome! Ty for sharing. Love hearing from real owners

[@johnlokes1925]

love the floor design.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad you like it!

[@wdehart1988]

We use baskets its a nice camper for a family of 5

[@dshall442]

We have a 2021 Transcend 247BH. There's a lot to love about these things. The siding is actually thicker than standard, and looks great compared to the classic stick and tin looks. There's also an already installed RV Airflow system, so the air conditioner works AWESOME!! As far as the shelf above the bed, we use it for transportation only, and maybe stashing a hoodie or something quick, nothing long term.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I recorded a 247BH on this same trip and am SUPER eager to see what people think of it!

[@dshall442]

@@JoshtheRVNerd what’d you think of it?!?!? I know… spoilers, but I’m dying to see the vid!

[@Plurquest]

if this had frameless windows and a mini outdoor kitchen and a upgraded exterior (laminate) i would've seriously considered this that floor plan is beautiful the fridge on a 12v for the capacity would also be nice and ditch the oven

[@atptravel]

There is a "Twenty Twenty Two Limited Edition" with the laminate siding. They are hard to come by. You can convert the rear trunk into an outdoor kitchen of sorts. That Furrion oven is bigger than your standard RV range oven, but I agree. A convection microwave would suit us just fine.

[@Prabagosatx]

Zachary, there is a propane connection outside that can serve as an outdoor stove.

[@llldaslll1590]

If this had those features it would cost as much as the Cougar 30bh that he mentioned in the video. This hits a good price point and gives you a lot of bang for your buck. Like David Thornton said, the rear trunk has an outlet so you can easily mount a fridge back there if you want, and there is a quick connect lp connection. Sadly it's in front of the axles near the front door, so you'd either need a long lp hose, or you'd need to run a permanent line to the rear.

[@snake_king]

5:03 is that a Shasta? Didn't know they were still around

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yep! I actually have a video of one coming. Might be that exact one I’m not sure

[@clintoncoey9840]

Hahaha I just bought this exact model, I pick it up on Saturday 🤣🤟

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

What congratulations man!

[@lynnlackey2431]

We don't have this Floorplan in the Transcend but as for the storage shelf above the bed. We'll I have such great storage which I haven't filled all up yet I don't need that shelf for storage so I put decorative items there after we're parked not in transit of course. Grand design does a great job in utilizing space for storage. We could have chosen fiberglass over stick and tin but we loved the Floorplan in our 240ml and couldn't be happier. It doesn't even feel like a more entry level Thanks Josh for all you do and your videos.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That 240ML is amazing Actually overall.. I think these Transcends are threatening to become my favorite stick and tin series. Their floor plan lineup and execution is just stellar

[@terryhaynes1596]

We have a split bathroom and love it. So much more space to change in. Nice floor plan. Could make an offer lice where the bunks are. If they could fix the refrigerator being blocked in travel mode! Swap the door opening side?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I'm guess autocorrect changed "office" on you?

[@jrambo7495]

Josh,at 6:59 you stated that Cougar has a version of this but I didn't catch the model number of said Cougar. Thanks in advance.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

This one: bit.ly/3pAkmlr

[@Mi_Tony]

Daughter and son-in-law just bought this unit (‘24). The only thing they don’t like is that awning doesn’t cover both doors. Nice rig tho.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for sharing

[@beginagainben6276]

I absolutely love the bunk layout. I wish so badly they made this at 30’ and more half ton friendly

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

To get it shorter would you be OK if the rear bunks slide forward and occupied the rear seating space? Like if the bottom bunk acted like a seat during the day and top flipped up? That's the only way I could see shortening this up

[@mickylawless1941]

"Cute" video! Not a bad bumper pull trailer.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thank you! :)

[@Extremistno9]

I really like this layout. However, road-mode may be a deal breaker. With three kids, we need to make quick stops for bathroom usage. While you can gain entry through the master bedroom, we also like to utilize a single stop say for bathroom break and then lunch in which we would then utilize the refrigerator. I wouldn’t want to extend the slide as some of the stops are at rest stops next to semi-trucks which may limit the room. Possibly move the frig to the other side of the kitchen and put a pantry where the refrigerator is making it accessible in road mode.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

And that's why I take the extra time to show them closed up. I know it's not always ideal for folks but for this kind of money I think you deserve to know what you're getting

[@Extremistno9]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Very much appreciated that you look at every aspect, especially the garbage can location and elbow room for showers!

[@kmclean810]

We have the fridge opening the other way and can open it a bit with slides closed or just push the slide open a tad to access it.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@kmclean810 ty 🙏

[@joeoconnor7725]

Live in Canada but love the show

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thank you for watching

[@DailyDriver.]

The two doors helps with my concerns on road mode bathroom access for over nights. Also , I can’t get over how this and my attainable dream trailer the reflection 28BH spoil a cooking lover like me with counter space for miles lol

[@Julle1986]

I love love love looooove it😍

[@vandersnickmcduffle7333]

30 seconds is pretty optimistic for Fruit Stripe

[@goodgirlgonesouthsc4340]

True but it’s SO good for those few seconds

[@llldaslll1590]

We have this model and I replaced the front window with the AP Products thin shade window. It took less than 30mins to swap the windows. We're still debating whether or not to put one upfront, but that's going to require cutting a hole in a perfectly good door.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Love it thank you

[@alanj7306]

My neighbors used to tow a 32 footer with a half ton truck. It’s possible. Maybe not ideal depending how often and how far you tow, but with the proper tow rating, you’d be surprised.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Oh sure - the right truck and driver could do some serious work. But I also feel like it's VERY dependent upon region and terrain

[@upshifter5316]

Love this one. Just wish they had this in their Imagine line. Also bedroom door needs a window bad! Otherwise perfect.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It's soooo refreshing seeing how progressive transcend is for "a stick and tin" It just never FEELS like a stick and tin camper

[@llldaslll1590]

I have this camper, and I agree which is why I'm about to cut a hole in the door to install a window!

[@FranklinHicks-qs4gs]

I had the 245rl . It's the same version minus the rear bunks. I have a 2012 tundra 5.7. The weight isn't bad but that length will get ya. Coming out of the mountains, High winds and semi trucks made for some butt puckering driving.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah I thought I knew what when was until I spent some time hanging out in Iowa with the team. Holy crap man

[@FranklinHicks-qs4gs]

@@JoshtheRVNerd if ya don't know now ya know! RIP B.I.G

[@VOOODOOO37]

I just saw a Bish's tire cover down here in FL, was cool!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I hope to have a store down there one of these days. I’d be nice to have some more coverage around the country

[@randbrand1]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Bish's to North Texas please.

[@waltergonzales990]

I was actually looking at this for myself and my wife for when my kids spend time with us. The one big down side is the thermostat behind the slide out and how it needs to be fully out to use the thermostat

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I guess I understand that but I also don’t think this was really intended to be significantly used without the slider open. But I see what you’re saying

[@waltergonzales990]

@@JoshtheRVNerd yeah I just have had several nights at rest stop where I don't use the slide-out but it's been cold so I turn on the heater.

[@jerroldahner4958]

Like the floor plan,could use a little more cargo capacity say 2,000 LBS. maybe. Another trailer that might compare to it is the Outdoors RV Back country 28 DBS.

[@GD99-p7u]

Legit LOL for the "Ripoff and Duplicate" line This trailer looks great - really wonder if my F150 could tow it comfortably. Might be pushing it once you weigh the camper down with supplies.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

My concern with a half ton isn’t so much the weight as it is the total length of the survey which is far longer than the model number suggests

[@Yellow_Buddy]

@@JoshtheRVNerd You don't mention which models have ripped this off, are there any that would be slightly shorter for a 1/2 ton?

[@mrtroll7755]

Josh I just bought this and hope my 21 Sierra 1500 can tow it ( First time RVing) 😅😅😅 We will be picking it up this April (currently in storage)

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Not a bad idea to verify ratings before hitching up. Contact a GMC service department with your vin

[@msheron]

Great big counter space and a roof access ladder! Downfall, no outside kitchen!

[@beenieweenie1986]

I'd much prefer the theatre seats. Maybe a dinofa setup. But this is def on the radar now

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Theater would be awesome here I think

[@llldaslll1590]

Mine has the theatre seat sofa instead of the dinette. When you get that option they include a standalone table which stores under the master bed.

[@sb3424]

The rear bunks on this floorplan is genius! It's too bad the ceilings aren't tall enough for men my height.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Maybe try this one m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3mpk5-jh6idasU The vaulted ceilings help

[@myrandabrown]

Didn’t Cougar have the rear bunks like that a few years ago on an experimental floorplan? They made it with a rear sofa and a rear dinette with a mobile bench.

[@myrandabrown]

That’s what I get for commenting before I watch. You talked about the Cougar.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

😉

[@wasson65]

No window in the bedroom door is a plus. Our bedroom door has a window and we covered it up.

[@kkinalex7980]

I wonder if those vertical cabinet doors are the same size? Could maybe get an extra one and mount it horizontally opening to the top with struts or fold down with a good latch.

[@EO.studios]

We have this camper and we put baskets up top and under the bed we full time in it woth 2 kids 9 and 5 years old

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That's awesome to hear! TY

[@buni9822]

Real Nice RV👍

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

She’s a real beat’ Clark

[@mikepeca18]

We installed an aftermarket window on the bedroom door. We also had to upgrade our half ton truck to a 3/4.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY for the truck info. 1/2 tons just seem a little light for something this long. TY for sharing/

[@lauratopliffe8179]

If I was in the market for a BH, this would be it.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

The longer I spent in it the more I liked it

[@cieutag55]

What’s the floor plan on this? I understand a bunkhouse but how should I search for these that bunks are perpendicular to road? Anything shorter 1/2T in this arrangement?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I don’t really know how you can make it any shorter without giving up some serious things

[@leighannefritts2094]

We are looking for a bunkhouse and absolutely love Transcend’s 3 bunk models, but the dealbreaker for us is no pantry on any of them 😢

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

They just got a new product manager a month or two ago. I could see them evolving over the next year or two

[@leighannefritts2094]

@@JoshtheRVNerd we just put in an offer on a 2022 Cougar Half Ton 30BHS! It checks all the boxes. We are huge fans of yours from Knoxville, TN!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Oh very cool! TY for sharing. hope it all works out :) @@leighannefritts2094

[@williambell4510]

When I was looking for a trailer, I looked specifically for that bathroom

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty

[@Jayhawk226]

I came here from the Cougar version of this. I do like the Cougar version, the L dinette works better i think.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty!

[@dasfreakster]

Wildwood during pan had one of its vents open @17:26. :(

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I saw that and grabbed it immediately after that was recorded.

[@KristenHeptinstall]

Hi Josh, when you say everyone is starting to copy this one -- who else?? I found Avenger and East to West. Anyone else? This is my dream layout for my family of 4.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Cougar, I believe Catalina also might be making a run on it

[@astrodb4487]

Bedroom door required for Walk-thru bathroom. I have softened my stance. I like this one.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY for taking a look! I really like it too -- far more than I expected to

[@c1neal]

Yes I like

[@knppstr542]

I know KZ and Cherokee made a model like this. Do you know of any others? We are heading to the Novi trailer show looking to purchase and trying to do our research.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Here’s one m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3mpk5-jh6idasU

[@LaN-cy1gb]

Nice but I disagree the windowless door will work. A window in the door with a shade would provide privacy and at the same give another look out on your camp side (which is lacking on this rig).

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I can respect that as well. I do think a window on that sidewall in the bedroom would be a viable option

[@robmoore7378]

The sofa looks like a seat out of a mini van

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I mean.. I've been in some pretty nice minivans lol :)

[@marvcbjorge]

I wish they had this layout but where you don’t have to pass through the bathroom to get to the owners bedroom.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I'm not aware personally of anyone building that, but I could see it happening! That's a super reasonable request!

[@llldaslll1590]

@@JoshtheRVNerd The 268bh Reflection 150 was like that. If anything that just makes the bathroom smaller for a useless hallway.

[@MostlyNotDps]

I've heard the advise that when you go to buy your trailer, you should be looking for your *next* trailer. i'm wondering if that is good advice. the wife and I really want to get a trailer. I'm looking at this and thinking "this is perfect for our family and fits every need we have.." But it's longer than I was anticipating getting as a first trailer. by a good 10ft or so. i'mf wondering if you'd suggest, to a first-timer, get the smaller trailer that you know you'll be trading in eventually while you get use d to it, or get the trailer that works for your needs and learn on it?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Never heard of that.. sounds like advice from someone that sells rvs lol I try to help folks find their second the first time.

[@MostlyNotDps]

@@JoshtheRVNerd oh it totally was. But like here. This is the perfect rv. But the one I’ve been looking at is like the wolf pup 17jg because it’s short and I’ve never towed before. Is it better to start with a short trailer that doesn’t work quite right. Or just get the longer one and learn on it

[@llldaslll1590]

I can tell you that our first trailer was a 24' jayco that we really liked and towed easy with my F150, but it was pretty cramped. I was new to towing so I didn't' want anything over 25'. We upgraded that to a 26' Rockwood with a slide and murphy bed and even though it was 1k lb heavier it still pulled good, but we were very close to hitting payload limits. Plus, my wife couldn't stand the murphy bed even though it made the floorplan super spacious during the day. Thus we ended up upgrading the truck to a 3/4 ton so that we could pull something this size, and eventually landed on this exact model. If I had it to do all over again, I would have bought the 3/4 ton originally, and got the floor plan she really wanted on day 1. The towing anxiety is going to be there either way, but something this size is going to be more difficult to learn on with tailswing on turns and learning to back into spots. If you do decide to get a smaller trailer to just test out the camping life, then buy a used one and expect to lose some money when you begin the trade shuffle!

[@GmanHB]

You mentioned a 1/2T towable is questionable. Do you think of Ford expedition max with a heavy duty tow package could pull it safely?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I've seen that vehicle towing larger rigs though that doesn't mean it was smart lol There's a LOT of expedition configurations available but I believe the absolute max capacity ones top out at 9k tow rating which is sufficient. Where I get concerned is the payload rating with a vehicle full of people. I also worry about the length of this one pushing you around In flatland southern michigan you'd likely be ok but in mountains or windy areas like Iowa where this was recorded I could see it being a problem

[@waynemessersmith4402]

bunk beds..... if it was Jayco you would say the dangler weight limit, but you did not mention the weight rating on this unit, its a small thing but information some like to hear, it is a nice unit.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I try to look for the stickers but they’re not always in an obvious place. Typically I see bunks rated at about 300 pounds

[@dannyscobee6530]

Just missing a outdoor kitchen 😢 Maybe convert the back storage bay to a slide out kitchen.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Try this one m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3mpk5-jh6idasU

[@Tom-if6tw]

Does anyone have the exact dimensions of the bunks?

[@tremjar1305]

normally i do not like bunks, normally would say just end the trailer at the couch, which yes there i a version like that (think that odd behind the sofa bunk was in something similar)..... but if i was planning to possibly full time or live in it, agree the bunks would be very good to have for storage....one time i moved to a smaller place then i had before.. so i set up a storage system with 2 long folding tables stacked on each right behind the couch EXACTLY like this is setup here... tables and couch were exact same legnth as couch and fit perfectly on the wall they went on, same as this, hang old black sheet between tables and couch, does not look all that bad. nearly perfect storage solution... everything totally out of the way, but relatively easy to get to if need something out of it. so in this case i actually very much do like the bunks there... would just have to black out the windows totally, my random boxes and bags do not need to see out the back windows, and more importantly, noone outside needs to see all that stuff stored in there, dont matter if can tell what it is or not, if they see a pile in the window, they know there is a LOT of stuff in there to take. but in this case i would want the bunks, since i have used that storage solution myself before, it is tried and proven very effective from experience already, and very easy to make prettier, get a lighter weight brown area rug matches wood tone or couch fabric tone and hang in front of it, down side too.... would nearly disappear, just have a little odd closet by itself in the corner from first glance and that is all one would notice right off.... only problem, could end up with far too much weight back there if using it for pure storage... boxes of books, ammo, etc. but otherwise would work good... could also use only bottom bunk for storage, make top one a pet area, or vice versa depending on the pet.... good place for that cat box and food bowls and nap spots etc. cats up top, dogs on the bottom lol..... is part of the reason toy hauler versions are my favorite still.... if you really had to put everything you own in one trailer for a long period, until can find a place to store it all or just sell it, you can do it in a toy hauler, and when in normal use.... you have nearly half the trailer to set up any kind of floorplan you want... storage shed no problem another bedroom, no problem, a party room with a pool table, no problem... noone said your toys had to have wheels or go in water or fly for that matter. could put arcade games back there and make a mobile arcade if you want to.... be that as it may.... for anyone who needs more storage like i probably would, and or has a dog / cat traveling with them, this is a great solution, most rv do not really have a spot for things like food bowls and cat boxes... yes sometimes a pull out drawer with water and food somewhere.... better than nothing but...i leave dry food and water down all the time, that drawer would be open 24/7.... here your dog cat goat horse ram snake whatever can have its own space with all its toys and food and such in there, out of the way place for catbox if need one etc. certain bunk models like this one....absolutely yes... excellent. ... like idea of theatere seats in place of dinette and L dinette in place of couch instead.... dinette would be mostly a desk for me most of the time... L shape by bunks be great.... my seat at dinette would be facing the same direction of the new theatre seats, rest of dinette facing way couch does now. all that storage right there in my reach, put desk supplies in that corner of bunk near corner seat... now at "desk" looking right at tv with theater seat people, and looking right out the open door when nice out as well... only need to pivot tv a little if more than 3 people trying to watch it....the 2 theatre seats and the one dinette seat all face strait at it where it is. fridge door would have to be reversed, if so good enough to load mostly. (loading up the fridge at walmart or wherever is the most important travel access point seems to me) overloading the back end i can see a big problem.. that rear end is where my tool box would go and all that heavy crap.... doubt it would fit in other compartments.... then all the storage in the bunks?.... no.... would be pretty much ALL the weight except for water way back there... no....go over a bump and the back end snap off like kit kat bar lol.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Is it just me or do those bumps behind it so if I remind you of emmets double Dekker sofa from the Lego movie?

[@tremjar1305]

@@JoshtheRVNerd lol, yes.... i was a lego master as a kid, at age of 51 if i visit someone with kids i will play with their legos with them to this day, toss something or other together out of the pieces i see sitting there..... is probably why i am interested in rv design, is very much like legos... what can i make out of this pile of parts available...... hand me a list of rv parts..... these are what you have to work with, go make something.... i will come back with something interesting for sure..... just like legos.... if a part i want to use is not there, i cant just go get more parts on the fly, have to use what is available..... building rv same... you have access to these parts, but not those parts (too high end, expensive, heavy, whatever case may be) can not just go, oh i want a marble counter there.. no, not on part list, dont have one available, find something else in the available authorized pile given.

[@michelesteward5170]

This would be a GREAT model for dog people too. Use those bunks for crates

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I think cougars version but their flip up bunk area could also be pretty good m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3mpk5-jh6idasU

[@michelesteward5170]

@@JoshtheRVNerd I'll check it out!

[@Lsgriff]

Is there a second AC option? Great unit. Can we start getting your caricature on the spare tire cover??

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Maybe on the spare tire! We're looking at some Nerdmerch at some point! Regarding 2nd A/C: Looks like that's offered only on their 297QB and 321BH models with private 2nd sleeping quarters

[@Lsgriff]

@@JoshtheRVNerd that would be a no go for me without a second AC. We camp at the beach a lot and it’s like an oven up in the nose without a second unit. That’s why our new one has a second AC. I will start saving for Nerdmerch!!!

[@drooskeedoo3388]

Theres a dealer near me that has several '22's of this model that theyve discounted the list price $10k on down to $36k. I said I wasnt in the market on a previous comment but Im REALLY liking this model. We are ready for a bigger trailer and since this dealer has so much excess older inventory what could be a reasonable offer to go in at?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Can’t really answer that for you I’m afraid. Pricing can vary by thousands from shipping distance. Rv pricing is not flat nationally

[@evakayarflin5548]

Can you get a larger frig? Like a 10cu?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

8 ft.³ 12 V fridge is the largest they offer in these

[@zardozungadonkbungabonga]

I would have taken out the bunks and the sofa and made an office for working remotely. Not sure where the furnace was located as I only saw one heater vent.

[@mikelombardi3550]

I like the floor plan. But why is the water heater so far away from where you actually need hot water?

[@llldaslll1590]

Probably for accessibility, since you access it under the bottom bunk.

[@XPLORCAMPER]

Not a fan of walk through bathrooms and it was a deal breaker for us when looking at the GDTX 231RK. We have put the collapsible cloth storage boxes in the space above the bed in our 200MK. Also it a good place to throw your hat. A great feature on the Furrion 12V fridge is what is called the "off grid" setting on the temperature dial. It keeps things cold and your battery will last a little longer during boon docking. There is a family on You Tube that full times in this unit.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Man that 200 MK is just awesome

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Did you go with sofa or dinette?

[@XPLORCAMPER]

@@JoshtheRVNerd We went with the Theater seats. Do you still have plans to do a factory tour of Grand Designs?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@XPLORCAMPER oh absolutely

[@XPLORCAMPER]

@@JoshtheRVNerd YAY!!! Thank You!!!

[@hfritz8589]

Josh, you mentioned clones of this floorplan. What others are there besides the Cougar 30BHS?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Cherokee just came out with one. Trying to thinking of the model number... 263GDK I think Pretty sure the GDK is supposed to mean "Grand Design Killer" lol You can see a peek of it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWfSgYqGntmihNk

[@hfritz8589]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you sir! Took a quick look, nice, but not for us. Cherokee upped the weight and length a bit too much. I have also found the Coachmen Apex 266BH, it does fit the bill. Not sure about the quality level between the Coachman model and the Grand design model. care to comment?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@hfritz8589 Very different construction between them but with only one noteworthy exception I've been pretty happy with Apex models I'm still hunting for that 266

[@hfritz8589]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Sorry - it is a 266BHS - I left the S off the end. If the two were similarly priced, which would you recommend? Our two kids LOVE the bunks in these, and I really like how they are open to the rest of the coach.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@hfritz8589 I don't have experience with the 266 I'm afraid so I can't really offer any insights based on personal hands-on experience.

[@monzon529]

I like it but would like it for a half ton towable i would shorten it up and put a murphy bed on the other side. Its not cramp i like it.

[@jontatt]

Would you tow this with a 2017 Land Rover Discovery HSE?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Apologies I am not familiar with that vehicle. Do you know it’s capacities? Towing and payload?

[@chriskirby9021]

Is there a layout like this with the couch and dinette switched? I think that would be better. Just my opinion. UPDATE: Watch the video before commenting, lol

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I got you fam 😉