Impatient Drivers Go Around Railroad Crossing Gates, Crew Gets Mad.. At Me! Railroad Switching Spur

Impatient automobile drivers did not want to wait for the train so 6 cars ran around the crossing gates as the train was switching a customer. Railroad switching on an industrial spur owned by Norfolk Southern Railroad and the train is in Middletown, Ohio. The train was doing railway switching/shunting and the drivers were in a hurry. They didn't appreciate seeing an EMD SD40-2 with a female engineer operating on an old industrial spur with stick rail and serving the last customer on the line. The spur continues on to a few more customers who have abandoned the railroad and the track is out of service and rusty to them. There are a few more railroad crossings after the crossing in this video but they haven't seen a train in a long time and when this last customer stops using the line you will have another candidate for a hiking and bike trail. Back to the cars that ran around the gates. Do you think it was okay for the cars to run around the gates and what do you think the police would do if they saw them doing that? Leave a comment below and let me know if this was acceptable. They missed a good show although it was a short one since the train only set out one car and picked up one car. This is a local switching job ( HO4 I believe ) that operates on 160.980 and after switching Middletown they switch Franklin, Ohio next and then continue on to Dayton, Ohio. The crew got upset but not at the drivers. They got mad at me for filming! There is a part 2 for this. I wasn't going to post it but I probably will after I see how this video does. In Part 2, I filmed this crew in Franklin, Ohio. I was on public property but they stopped the train and walked to my car to get the license plate number. Then they called the cops on me and said I was trespassing. I was on public property and got it all on video. In Part 2 I had to delete some of the stuff that the conductor said to me when he approached me. I don't put that kind of stuff in my videos. The shirt that I was wearing got torn by the car seatbelt. This was a silk shirt and the first time I ever wore it. Filmed April 6, 2021. Thanks for watching! Please thumbs up and watch another JawTooth video to help my channel.
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[@rachelolvera9435]

Boy they were Pissed off about being filmed.

[@JawTooth]

Wait till you see part 2. I wasn't going to post it but I probably will after I deleted some of the things the conductor said. In part 2 I filmed them in Franklin Ohio after this video and they stopped the train and the conductor got off and walked to my car to get the license plate number. Then he called the cops on me and said I was trespassing on railroad property. I was on public property the whole time and got it all on video. I might post it next week, I don't know.

[@rachelolvera9435]

Responding to your comment - wow!

[@Eddy63]

@@JawTooth Post it ...

[@BradRains]

@@JawTooth What did the cops have to say to you, if anything?

[@PB-bn9bq]

Please post that.

[@michaelroark3263]

If the railroad would show some consideration to drivers by shutting off the crossing signal when they're not using it people wouldn't be so tempted to run the gates.

[@NUKE-W.E.F.]

Agreed

[@chrisobvious]

Lots of crossings have detectors that can detect when the train isn't moving, and lift the gates. This crossing isn't one of those, but since the railroad is too cheap to install a proper crossing detector I think people should cut the drivers some slack.

[@aaronb4936]

You do realize the railroad cannot just flip a switch and pick up the gates right?

[@NUKE-W.E.F.]

@@aaronb4936 True, but this train was well past the signal. . Something wasn’t right here.

[@michaelroark3263]

@@aaronb4936 I'm sure they could if they put their mind to it.

[@mikehudsonrocks9585]

They are lucky to have a responsible guy like you filming. Please ignore them. Always outstanding work, JT!

[@JawTooth]

Thanks Mike!

[@lpasch34]

I watch all your videos jaw tooth

[@lpasch34]

I really love trains and I know so much about them

[@htomc42]

Long ago as a kid, I sent a letter to Southern RR asking about trains. To this day, I'm impressed at the huge pack of stuff they sent. I suspect this hostility toward railfans would not have flown back then.

[@JawTooth]

Awesome! I lived right next to the Southern Railroad mainline in 1984

[@ardalla535]

Yep, when I was kid my parents knew someone at Southern and he gave me a big pack of photos and other stuff. This was in the 50s. I even got invited to take a ride on the locomotive and blow the whistle.

[@Bryan-Hensley]

It probably wouldn't flow now if the right people heard about it. Might be time to get ahold of corp.

[@icebolt0864]

@@ardalla535 I wanna throw the switch so bad!

[@papazahn]

Glad I live in a place where the yardmaster will stop and hand out free NS calendars.

[@JawTooth]

Awesome!

[@icebolt0864]

They have free RR calendars!?

[@markeholbrook]

My cousin wrecked a train at Armco in Middletown. He was high on drugs, they sent him to rehab, then he got caught selling drugs on the property and lost his job. Then he eventually got a job doing construction but he had a heart attack and couldn't work after that. Then he had another heart attack which killed him. I knew he was bad news but I loved him. RIP Buddy.

[@daf827]

That’s such a bummer to get called out by the crew for recording on public property. Lots of people get freaked out when being recorded. Maybe this crew has never witnessed a railfan! To quote Neil Young, “Don’t let it bring you down.” You, your doggies and your videos are much appreciated by your fans. Keep on keeping on, JT!

[@craigfazekas3923]

"It's only castles burning".....

[@tonys4250]

When the guy said he was going to get your plate number should have yelled "Why do you need my plate number?" then hold up your scanner. You think it pissed them off because your filming them, it would piss them off even more if they find out your also listening to them.

[@deepspire]

No! Don’t get defensive and don’t escalate anything. Just shrug and say “fine.” (The only reason he ‘threatened’ that was to invoke a reaction.)

[@robertdean9392]

#1 PUBBLIC SIDEWALK #2 30 FOOT OR MORE FROM TRACK/ CROSSING = GOOD TO GO. You were not filming close enough to get faces or names. Ignore them

[@JawTooth]

Thanks Robert!

[@EvansBrickhouse]

Even if he filmed faces or names it’s not against the law.

[@beeble2003]

@Robert Dean Distance from the track is completely irrelevant. Their faces or names are irrelevant. He is in a public place. The people he's filming are clearly visible in or near that public place and not doing anything for which there would be an expectation of privacy. He can film whatever he wants in that situation.

[@6680thSOG]

I worked for a class 1 road here, and have a couple buddies who are engineers. One of them told me, crews who dont like guys filming are usually doing stupid stuff, or have had railfans interfere or get too close. I actually saw an idiot using a FLASHLIGHT to get better lighting and shining it AT the locomotive..either way...Keep up the good work. We live in a very angry world, but guys like you give us some good quality enjoyment. Sorry the crew were so rough. Who knows what was going on with them...or, maybe they work for UP (LOL)

[@armageddon1981]

I work for UPRR in the Chicago service unit and i don't act anal like that...plus UPRR territory does not go that far east...we're west of the Mississippi except for trackage in Memphis,TN. Those were NS guys...what's your beef with UP huh? *gives instense stare*

[@6680thSOG]

@@armageddon1981 LOL no beef with UP employees and it was admittedly a dig on you all (I work PT for.....CN... *dramatic menacing music* but I've worked with enough UP crews to know the morale there is not the greatest. I am sure I dont need to tell the joke about how you cant spell a 'certain word' without UP ...They call us "the lazy 3 route" or "wet noodle lines" . Nothing but love for most of you angry UPers!

[@armageddon1981]

@@6680thSOG 😂😂😂😂 it's all good, of course i use the slogan about "not getting stUPid without UP in the middle" a whole lot. Just tell your Yardmasters at CN Markham,il yard to quit holding us for 7 hours and then expecting us to yard a 9000 ft train with just 1hr and a half left😂😂😂😂😂. Stay safe out there👍👍👍

[@JawTooth]

Thanks for your support!

[@bluemax439]

EXACTLY.....If I had to guess in this particular case... I would say this..."me thinks these people protest too much". WHY? Because the fact that we have a female engineer and a male conductor....might there be some hanky-panky going on here?.....might they think they are being spied on? Again...."me thinks they protest too much!!!!"

[@josephpalmieri3095]

Don't worry about that crew. We love ya' JT.

[@JawTooth]

Thanks Joseph!

[@chrisperry1151]

I don’t think you should delete anything. Play it loud and proud!

[@ronstrulic4388]

And this is exactly why train crews can't stand foamers.

[@chrisperry1151]

@@ronstrulic4388 Please. The guy is a RR fan bringing good stuff to lots of viewers while doing absolutely nothing illegal.

[@NiceMuslimLady]

@@chrisperry1151 Jawtooth could get in trouble with youtube if someone reports it.

[@chrisg8270]

@@NiceMuslimLady report him for what?

[@NiceMuslimLady]

@@chrisg8270 The cursing. KZbin could demonitize his channel or restrict it to 18+ only because of the language.

[@tammiegetz9606]

Hey JT just wanted to say that train guy had nothing better to do than just complain,u did nothing wrong u were on public ground,have good day my friend😀😀😀

[@jaminova_1969]

Maybe the train crew should focus more on their jobs and not worry about the railfan filming them? It's still a free country right?

[@tammiegetz9606]

@@jaminova_1969 I agree

[@DuMontTV]

Some people get weirded out when they see someone filming. But how most train crews don't know who you are by now is strange. Have a GREAT weekend Jawtooth!!

[@JawTooth]

They didn't know me because I have only filmed this crew a couple times. I filmed them after this video in Franklin Ohio from public property and they actually stopped the train and got off and walked over to my car to get the license plate number and then called the cops on me.

[@Bravestar1217]

@@JawTooth Wow. I suppose that crew has never seen VirtualRailFan then, been through the Altoona Horseshoe curve, Cordele, GA, Deshler or any other rail park. Or they are up to.no good while on the job.

[@77thTrombone]

For all they know, some lawyer hired you to record their mistakes for some lawsuit, or for the NS safety baron in Atlanta. This is why I'm convinced Mr JT's reception would be universally changed if he wore a Speedo. Heck, if he has "issues of modesty," he could wear a Lady Speedo. I'm sure that would not alter the special & transformational reception they'd give him. People respond to Speedos. That's why they wear them at the Olympics.

[@vmsysprog]

The crew should stay focused on the task at hand vs. worrying about somebody video taping on public property. Accidents happen because people aren’t focused on what they should be doing.

[@gotchagoing8843]

@@vmsysprog Or saying...

[@alcopower5710]

I like that saying at the end “remember to stay positive but not test positive “ lol

[@JawTooth]

Thanks, yeah, it seems to fit the occasion. lol

[@MysticalHarmonizer]

the person who drove the car that turned around had the most sense.

[@hernanpatricioorellanaalar3473]

Yes, ignore them Mr. Jaw Tooth! A lack of patience! Thanks for your report Mr. Jaw Tooth! Have nice Sunday! 😀👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@JawTooth]

Thanks, you too!

[@Canuck1000]

I hope you were able to show the video to the cops which indicated that we you were on public property (hopefully, we'll see that in part 2). Then, file a formal complaint with NS for harassments.

[@markeholbrook]

I remember when I was a kid living in Middletown, you couldn't get across town without getting a train in your way! I loved it!

[@JawTooth]

I wish it was still like that. I wanted to film a long train going by the station but none came.

[@markeholbrook]

I sometimes feel like the car is going sideways real fast when I watch a train at a crossing. I think the tracks have moved so there are less crossings now. I liked to ride my bicycle to Armco and watch the glowing hot steel on flat cars at night. that was over 50 years ago.

[@joerogers4227]

@@markeholbrook I remember going over the river and it was always orange red because of the Armco rolling mill.

[@markeholbrook]

@@joerogers4227 Snow turned orange in a day, pilot lights went out all the time because of low gas pressure when the blast furnaces were running, All the sunsets were red.

[@briand5521]

I work in a Rail terminal and we're constantly being reminded to watch for unusual activities such as filming do to the constant threat of terrorism, and yes I know JT is not a terrorist or could be they just don't like being filmed , those guys definitely didn't good video Jawtooth

[@JawTooth]

Yeah, I stay back and never approach them. The guy closest to me didn't seem to mind but it was the guy way at the end of the train inside the customer property who didn't like it. Thanks for your comments Brian!

[@chrisobvious]

I like how you're being constantly reminded to be on the lookout for the thing that never actually happens. It's a total hypothetical, whereas real safety problems are ignored because fixing them costs money.

[@chrisobvious]

@J Navarro Yeah but terrorism has a specific definition and the things you're talking about are vandalism. Terrorism has to be politically motivated with a political goal to be called terrorism. If you never know who did something or why they did it, it cannot be terrorism, by definition. After 9/11 in the USA, the government paid some people to sit around and dream up stuff to warn the public about. That's where you got stories back then - very scary stories all over the news - to be on the lookout for things like beer coolers (because they might be bombs) and, in the case of trains, hobos (because they might be terrorists attempting to move around the country undetected). None of those things ever happened nor were they based on anything real. I think we can look back on such things today and see it as another sad chapter in the human story of irrational paranoia, like the satanic panic of the 1980's. On the other hand, you hear stories all the time of railroad workers being discouraged from reporting safety hazards - things that could get people killed - because the company doesn't want to spend money fixing things if they can avoid it.

[@mdf58]

Anyone could go out and photograph or record video surreptitiously. No need to advertise oneself with conspicuous video gear. Being suspicious of obvious photography is - as said in another comment - the same as the satanic panic of 40 years ago.

[@beeble2003]

"I work in a Rail terminal and we're constantly being reminded to watch for unusual activities such as filming" Dear Railroads, You may have noticed that there are these people called "railfans". You might haven noticed them because, you know, there are a lot of them. _A lot._ They like taking photographs of your trains and making videos of your trains and this is completely normal. "Unusual", the word you use, is the exact opposite of "normal". If somebody is filming your trains, that is not an "unusual activity". That is a normal activity. Jeez.

[@normanguinard8435]

Crews only get angry about being filmed when they are doing something against the rules and they do not want to be caught - just my experience.

[@jasonervoes1326]

Yes because they're paranoid

[@phin12710]

Maybe the conductor had a bench warrant for his arrest and was afraid he would be recognized when your video aired.

[@clivemortimore8203]

Well done JT for not confronting the conductor. Hopefully someone form Norfolk Southern sees this and will remind their staff that filming from public land is not a problem. In fact hopefully they will use you video to inform the police of the cars and trucks that put their staff in danger by going around the crossing gates. Thanks for another good video.

[@wernerrenfftlen6471]

That conductor was giving you the evil eye!

[@JawTooth]

It gets worse in part 2 of this video when I filmed this same crew in another town. They stopped the train and called the cops on me

[@saddletramp1860]

@@JawTooth Never thought railfanning would would make you a 1st Amendment auditor. Hope the cops didn't try and jack you up over it.

[@natiman1345]

@@JawTooth is part 2 posted?

[@wernerrenfftlen6471]

@@JawTooth Looking forward to watching your upload of that video. You're obviously stepping on sensitive toes. haha

[@AndreiTupolev]

They deserve to be broadcast publicly as appalling ambassadors for the company

[@MSmith-sixfiddle]

I agree. If this crew were an example of what kind of company Norfolk Southern is,I would never use them to haul any of my freight. They just might be doing something wrong, dangerous or illegal and don't want it filmed. Train crews used to be really nice people. Not sure what turned this crew.

[@musclecarmitch908]

Great video Jawtooth! It's ashame some people don't understand railfanning, they must think there being filmed for a bad reason or something I guess they don't understand alot of folks like to see trains, maybe someday they will see some videos and understand. Thanks for sharing!

[@Galaxy2517]

They'd lose their minds if they ever went through a popular spot having a railfanning weekend!

[@SuperJ213]

A more accurate title would be: Patient Drivers Finally Go Around Railroad Crossing Gates After Unreasonable Delay, Crew Discusses Me Without Exhibiting Anger! Railroad Switching Spur

[@BillBrasky7718]

Just sayin. Underrated comment of the year here! Hilarious!🤣

[@magicpencil6995]

Another great video - love local switching... maybe there's been a series of trainjackings in the area...🤣🤣

[@lexpo181]

You're very respectful about the railroad property my Jaw! This is very sad that some bad people like thoses drivers and the crew who dislike great railfan like yourself! Stay safe jaw and continue to publish good stuff! :)

[@tokelosellosrailwaychanel3208]

Jaw Tooth never dissapoints. Thank you for uploading your cool railway spottings everyday

[@JawTooth]

Glad you like them!

[@tokelosellosrailwaychanel3208]

@@JawTooth your content is something else man. You give out detailed info and you don't just shoot a video of a random train and post it on KZbin. . I appreciate your channel ❤️❤️❤️

[@brianhickey5949]

They need to upgrade that crossing detector. Newer ones go on train speed not just track location (I think you told us that?). That would have lifted the gates and the cars could have gone on. Blowing gates is a fools errand, but folks are mighty impatient these days and so we see what happens :) I am not sure why RR workers don't understand railfans. Seems to me they think it is invading their workspace which couldn't be farther from the truth! There are lots of us who love watching the short lines work - especially at a customer location. It might be that they think you are filming how long they hold the crossing closed and they are sensitive about it. Heck I enjoy this stuff! Thanks :)

[@JawTooth]

I filmed this same crew in Franklin Ohio from the sidewalk and they called the police. The conductor stopped the train and walked over to my car to get the license number.

[@brianhickey5949]

@@JawTooth Makes no sense. Bunch of grumpy RR guys that should find other work.

[@thomasfletcher4765]

Cool video work 👍 . Some people will find anything to complain about . Hoping to see part 2 , but it's all up to you if you decide to post it . Have an awesome day , JT !

[@JawTooth]

Thanks 👍

[@jimthannum7151]

Love the switching videos, this was especially entertaining with the radio dialogue.....never say you as a RR felon! 😁

[@michaelandrew677]

Some people just don't appreciate being recorded. MOST people don't appreciate being recorded. It doesn't matter where you're standing when you're recording them.

[@bluemax439]

I don't think it is a concern of theirs. I do believe it IS a male/female "mating" conversation. Doesn't matter, the subject...it's the mating conversation...period....!!!!

[@BillBrasky7718]

After watching these and many of the "first amendment audit" videos I know how I will be acting if I ever see dudes filming in public.

[@michaelandrew677]

@@BillBrasky7718 All I can say is that if I told someone to stop recording me, that would not be framed as a request. They can claim they have a right all day long, but they'd be doing it while their camera was recording the inside of their colon and they were taking their food through a straw. I don't see a problem in recording some train roaring by at 60mph, but the instant your recording becomes a distraction of any kind to people trying to do their jobs, then you have an ethical obligation to cease and desist.

[@timosalazar9785]

@@michaelandrew677 If the person recording you is in a public place, you're going to jail for assault and battery if you do what you just said. Calm down, if you're that sensitive, stay home.

[@petercollingwood4108]

Send SGV news down to film them 😂😂, lucky Shoestring wasn’t riding, they would have gone even more crazy. Ignore the fools

[@JawTooth]

Yes! That would be perfect for him. I also know another place that he would love. In Cincinnati there is a huge industrial complex. Right next to the sidewalk on their fence is a sign that says photography is not allowed. There are several of those signs right along a public sidewalk. I was taking pictures of a boxcar across the road from them and a security guard walked over to me and warned me that I couldn't film anything on his side of the road. I couldn't believe it. SGV would have a field day. lol

[@petercollingwood4108]

SGV and Jaw Tooth what a team that would be, funny 🇬🇧London

[@JawTooth]

@@petercollingwood4108 Lol

[@vivianbenge2331]

You do good work, JT. Thanks for the videos. They remind me of times watching trains with my father. Years ago, I was watching a train crew working a small yard close to our house. Suddenly there were angry words in the cab and two men came boiling out engaging in fisticuffs. You never know what anxieties people harboring. So be a bit cautious, please.

[@skimmer8774]

Give them a McDonalds gift certificate and you'll have a friend for life.😊

[@kevinrichards3288]

Ba-da-ba-ba-ba

[@scottchilds978]

Jaw Tooth, you are a natural at this.....Keep rollin' son,lol

[@scottchilds978]

I think it"s more risky people climbing between railcars. I rode trains in my youth and had some misshapes doing this stunt

[@scottchilds978]

Guess those complainers are NOT true railfans ....lol!

[@JawTooth]

Thank you, I will!

[@JawTooth]

The good old days that we thought would never end. I miss my youth and the fun

[@scottchilds978]

@@JawTooth those years fly by too fast

[@awizardalso]

If the train was sitting still, I'd go around the gates myself.

[@lptvboy]

I’ve seen that video too on dual train tracks one train sitting and the gates go down for one passing on the other side of it. Right as the car crosses so does the other train at 50mph

[@briggsjos]

This is straight from the National Highway Transportation Safety Board aka NHTSB. In every state, it’s illegal for you to go around a lowered crossing gate or to ignore signs or flashing lights posted at a railroad crossing. Trains always have the right-of-way, and for good reason: Trains can’t swerve, stop quickly, or change direction to avert collisions.

[@kevinrichards3288]

I've seen many unpatient people at crossings that have 2 tracks. A split second after only 1 train passes, they immedietaly cross over while the gates are still down for the last few seconds not expecting a second train to come. It's better to lose a few minutes in a life than to lose a life in a few minutes.

[@shani3745]

The kiddos loved this one. "Look it's going backwards!" Awesome.

[@axysdnyd]

As long as you don't interfere with their jobs or pose some kind of safety risk, I don't see why they'd get mad at you for filming them. As a truck driver, I've been filmed numerous times and it never bothered me. Anyone who gets mad must have something to hide, that's why they don't want to be filmed. Great work!!

[@bpproductions2621]

Hey Man, like the trains you catch!

[@alanfan8941]

Thank you for the videos Jaw Tooth. It is good to see Railfan videos from our local area. I come from a railroading family and have lost a lot of respect for the railroads and more than a few of their employees. In Butler County we have been having a problem with over length trains stopping and blocking major railroad crossings which presents a major dilemma for emergency vehicles. And train crews used to be friendly, waving to kids as they passed by. Now many of them are surely and as likely to flip the bird to kids as to wave back to them.

[@donaldshroyer8633]

Nice vid. You always have live action. This time you found some high drama and tense suspense to go with it.

[@nathanputt6356]

Who else love idling train engines.

[@terryboyer1342]

Nathan I like notch 8 EMDs. But idlings cool too!

[@JawTooth]

I do!

[@ogtme]

Why on earth would anyone be upset about someone filming trains? My dad would’ve said they were probably constipated🙄 Keep on filmin, JT👍 From your fan friend Betsy in Washington, DC🐶🐶🐶

[@JawTooth]

Thanks Betsy!

[@johngetman1816]

Wow. Can't wait for part II. Goin around the gates w/the train in clear site & stopped.BFD. To me; It's like bein @ a redlight in the middle of the night. Happy Trails Jaw Tooth.✌

[@charlesfarmer9474]

Thanks JT

[@Peasmouldia]

The fact that the guy lied about you trespassing makes me think they have something to hide. They clearly feel that people filming are limiting their ability to circumvent regulations, or worse... Thanks JT.

[@alcopower5710]

I bet you’re right

[@ronstrulic4388]

I bet you're not. I'm a conductor and I have no problem with people filming my locos and cars. I do have a big problem with them filming me. I have nothing to hide. It's just called respect. I wouldn't come to your job and film every step you take and post it all over social media. Maybe if you look at it that way you can understand some. We're not out there for your entertainment.

[@ut000bs]

@@ronstrulic4388 Well, I appreciate your reply but I should point out you actually are out there for our entertainment.

[@jayforkner2692]

@@ronstrulic4388 Doesn't the train have a right-of-way? If Jaw Tooth was on ROW then he was trespassing.

[@ronstrulic4388]

@@ut000bs your comment and your lack of respect is why train crews hate you. You're the exact reason we have you removed.

[@KB-gs8zi]

Hey Bryan !!! Jason up there in the MI.. U/P has the same issue with the RR up there if you watch his videos !!! Guess they DON"T like Railfans ??? ""KEEP IT SAFE ""!!!

[@JawTooth]

I was way back also. I can't believe how they act. lol

[@dlspigle]

You keep doing what you do JT keep up the great work

[@silverhawk24]

Great video jawtooth loved it man cool live action trains as usual

[@carjockey7]

My grandfather worked for the railroad it’s called the Texas and Pacific Railway and he has seen a lot of people die at the crossings so my advice is stop and wait no matter how long the train takes to cross

[@tomsdotter3228]

I can understand not wanting to wait so long at a crossing, but I wouldn't go around. My cousin got a $450 ticket for going around one in Georgia!

[@rauti73]

Great Video, thanks for Sharing :-)

[@horror-metal-mike4320]

Very COOL NORFOLK SOUTHERN EMD dropping off four tank cars! Don't worry about the mad people driving, cause the whole world has just about gone mad! AWESOME video JT!

[@louislokuta2463]

I've been through this as well. I even had the local FBI field office contact me once. As long as you're on a public sidewalk, you're fine. Ignore them. Next time they try to get your license plate, open your trunk and leave it open. The plate will be facing the sky and they won't be able to see it.

[@lrich8181]

Unless your plate is on the bumper!

[@davidstart1748]

Another great video! What's NS's problem with you taping from sidewalk off their property? Interesting, part#2 please!!!

[@JawTooth]

Good question!

[@cp368productions2]

Wouldn't be NS, just that crew. I have never had such behavior from an NS crew in my life.

[@davidstart1748]

@@cp368productions2 Point well made!

[@johnzeller1338]

It never bothered me have people filming or taking pictures of us working. Hell... I'd do the same thing on my days off. As far as people running crossing gates...Well that's just plan stupid! Nice video JT.

[@PeterNGloor]

These switching moves can keep a street blocked for a really long time. Instead of running the gates, drivers could just turn around and look for a free crossing.

[@douglasw.7864]

Wonder why they had an issue with you filming JT? Makes you wonder. I was in Middleton just last week.

[@liam.m.f4593]

Person: AAAGHHH, THIS IS TAKING SO LONG Dog seeing a train for the first time: 🙂👌

[@edwardmounsey9208]

Hi JT, nice video thanks for posting. I guess some drivers are impatient to die. Why not sit and watch the switching and enjoy it? Keep up the good work until next time.

[@BF-qt2wp]

Nice video and keep up with the great work and be safe out there.

[@JawTooth]

Thanks, will do!

[@BF-qt2wp]

@@JawTooth your very welcome sir

[@georgeworley6927]

I love watching trains. My grandfather worked for the L&N Railroad. As child I got to ride on freight train from getting on the engine just before it entered the roundhouse til it got to a point 70 miles away where I could safety where I could safely get off and board another going back to where I came from. I had a ball doing it I didn't fear anything about it. Both engineers were friends. One was simi-family as he's was married to my aunt's husband sister. I got of the reason I am writing this. In my current town there is a rule passed by city 10 or more years ago that city streets could not be blocked more than 10 minutes. While that train when back in there the gate should have lifted to let cars go by until the train was ready to pull back over the roadway. Rev George Universalist

[@jonglass]

I don't think their problem was with you, but with the other guy who had been there the other day. Apparently, he did something they didn't like, and thought you were him back again. Their complaint wasn't with what you were doing, but with what had happened earlier with the other guy. That's how I read them.

[@derrickanderson4932]

Another great video!

[@upengineerbobs]

Caryl here. I couldn't resist making a few comments. My husband Bob is an engineer for the U.P. out of Los Angeles. He works a switch engine putting trains together. He always gets his trains out on time. He has a female trainmaster who gives him a load of crap at least twice a shift. Railroading is a man's world and women don't belong in it, especially in a supervisory position. They are insecure and always trying to prove themselves. They shouldn't be Engineers either. That's a man's job. This lady engineer needs to keep her mind on her job. She's more likely to make a mistake than a man. By the way, my husband doesn't mind railfans as long as they don't get in the way, because he's a railfan himself! Have fun!!

[@paulbergen9114]

Judging by the distance the train sat away from the Xing the first time you'd think the circuit would have sensed the inactivity and gone up. The real problem would be at a dual track Xing and not see an opposing train or misjudge their speed. The SD40 looks out of place on that track and even the Thiele tank car looks more at home at a paper mill (kaolin clay) RR crews can be finicky as some think you're a management snoop or the careless fan who gets too close and the crew also has to look out for them. Perhaps a cape with the JT emblem would put them at ease knowing theyre going into a quality film production

[@warminghurst]

Should have asked them to show the camera their union cards or other ID, to save the company time in sacking them for doing whatever it was they were feeling guilty about for doing wrong.

[@thomasmackowiak]

Thank you for documenting this switching work at the Graphics Packaging plant for us. That was interesting that the train crew had some sort of a problem with you filming their work from public property. Like someone else said, maybe they had a bad encounter with someone filming them in the past and pulled some sort of stupid stunt to make them dislike railfans. Just stay safe and keep documenting these great videos for us. As far as the drivers who don't appreciate watching a train crew doing their job, I think they should be patient and wait for the gates to go up rather than running around the gates.

[@dannyhonn973]

I reported a malfunctioning gate to CSX. Saw the maintainer working on it, and he explained what had malfunctioned. Ive always been safe around trains and heavy equipment. Transported railroaders on NS and got to know them. Big respect for them, and they respected me becsuse I got them home safe. This crew could just be having a rough day. A nasty customer griping at them. A boss who took his bad day out on them. Dont let it bother you. Be safe, be courteous, and theyll get it.

[@DistanceNsVeterans]

That cool Ns NS Sd40-2 even with the horn

[@JawTooth]

Thanks for watching

[@DistanceNsVeterans]

@@JawTooth no problem

[@robertborchert932]

Indeed! In person, the grumble of that diesel is pure music.

[@DistanceNsVeterans]

@@robertborchert932 mhm

[@larrycurran8036]

They must have had something to hide. 😺

[@JawTooth]

The guy complaining was way out of the picture inside the customer property coupling and uncoupling the cars. I didn't even get him on video until I filmed this crew in the next town when he came up to me and told me his dissatisfaction with me. lol. Then he called the cops on me and lied . He told them I was trespassing. I though Norfolk Southern was better than that.

[@77thTrombone]

@@JawTooth I don't work for NS, but don't let that 1 guy reflect the whole outfit. Of course, if you see a pattern among NS crews, that's a different kettle of fish...

[@gotchagoing8843]

@@77thTrombone Rotten fish...

[@jaynecobb3701]

​@@JawTooth Lying to the police is a crime. Photography is not a crime.

[@allenwright95]

Good video good puppy pictures

[@faithford9143]

I agree with the comments. You're doing great work I love it

[@rudolffabrie3233]

Ridiculous that the gates remain closed

[@matthewbrandley9027]

Ashame that some of these railroad crews are real tools

[@willyvonbusche729]

I like your videos mate. Very straight forward with no bullshit. I wonder why these railroad folks are so paranoid. Here in Norway you can go straight up to a train and film all you want if you keep a safe distance. We never hear that silly talk about trespassing or some other bullshit. Keep up the good work mate.

[@9005067]

thanks for sharing

[@stevesmith4771]

Once the loco was in, there was really no need for the gates to still be down stopping traffic so kinda dont blame them. If the loco was coming out again quickly then it would have been different ...plenty of time to let traffic go by.

[@NUKE-W.E.F.]

I agree. You can’t use common sense any longer. Nowadays cops will write you up no matter what.

[@budjamison2149]

Why drive around when you can sit there and watch the trains?

[@JawTooth]

That’s what I say. It only took a few minutes.

[@Backlitshitbox]

Ikr

[@TV-gh7ug]

Keep it up Jaw Tooth maybe they have something to Hide, You are doing Great

[@fdnyfilms3354]

Amazing channel man! They have no right to be yelling at you.

[@darrylnelson6264]

In this case the gate should of been up or the conductor should wave them through.

[@robertpsieving4401]

Maybe you got the crew that Jason Aselin gets in upper Michigan

[@JawTooth]

There are a few of them out there. I try to stay back from them. I guess you remember the one last year who took my camera

[@robertpsieving4401]

Thought I'd let you know about when I was in Bucyrus, OH several years ago. I was taking still pics of the Ohio Railroad Crane Co. Several cranes were sitting in plain sight when someone from the company came up to me on the other side of the fence telling me that I would have to give him my camera. I too was on a public sidewalk. I just told him to come and get it & then left

[@moonbear5929]

I guess they've never heard of a "Rail Fan" before. They think you're a suspicious radical. LOL

[@jamingaming9251]

There's been train spotters since the British invented trains.

[@user-ep7gu8ez3i]

Your weather is good in April. Excellent railway junction!!!)))))))))))))

[@JawTooth]

Indeed it is! Perfect time of year for Ohio

[@kben101]

Gate Runners:I don't care if the train is far back and not moving I'm doing the illegal move

[@JawTooth]

I see them so often that it almost seems normal. lol

[@kben101]

@@JawTooth so true

[@donmelius9383]

They don't like it cause if they mess-up it's been recorded.

[@runswithwolf7498]

Tom is code name for Jaw Tooth. Lol Great video as always.

[@traincentral1940]

I think it's funny when the crew talks about you on the radio not knowing that you're listening in on them! I had a switching crew that also didn't like me photographing what was going on, and I heard the conductor clearly say that he'd report me to the dispatcher for the same reason! 🙄

[@Galaxy2517]

I'd wave at them and hold up my scanner..... I can hear y'all 😉😉

[@robertf3479]

Doing that would probably piss them off even more. Does anyone remember 'party line phones' and how people would get pissed if you picked up and heard just PART of a 'private' call? A two way radio IS a party line that anyone with the proper gear can listen in on. It's like yelling back and forth across a street at the top of your lungs, you have ZERO expectation of privacy unless you have shelled out the big bucks for a voice encryption system. I have an old Radio Shack scanner which has the capability to listen in on everything from CB radio up through various military bands, I used to do the Communications Intelligence (COMINT) and Communications Security (COMSEC) thing in the Navy. There is NOTHING illegal about it, but it WILL piss them off none the less.

[@Eddy63]

Could you have asked the conductor what the problem was ... The other filmer must have did something wrong for them to come after you ... Oh well , Pt 2 is next ...

[@JawTooth]

He was inside the grounds of the customer so I couldn't but I didn't want to get near him anyway. I don't think he likes railfans. I remember filming this same train at a crossing near here and he called me a loser. I'm pretty sure it was the same guy. I stay back because I don't want to get assaulted and my camera stolen again like what happened when I filmed that crew backing a train across the road last year.

[@46fd04]

IMHO, the railway employees should be able to manually shut the gates off for a few mins. while the cars are being connected, or have a 3rd employee who can flag cars thru. It's good P.R. for the RR company.

[@robermv32]

When I was younger, way back in the early 60's, those railroad men were more than happy to talk to us and share their stories. They knew we held them in high esteem. But today....they seem just nasty to the public. Like that dude standing by the turnout, could be waving those cars through while the Engine is clear...just to be considerate of the other people in the area.

[@JawTooth]

I remember the 60s being invited into cabooses and locomotives. One time in the 80s I got to ride in a caboose all night long on a local

[@NWORails]

I've seen one of them do that actually. They were hooking onto train cars in Leipsic Ohio and they had to stop to wait for the conductor to check to see if everything was ready but they were parked too close to the crossings and triggered them to stay down, so the engineer got out and waved them to go through the crossing.

[@bhuff123]

They may not like to be film but as a photographer you’re in public property you can film and take pictures what you want and they probably don’t even know that you even have a radio so hey there just a bunch of losers

[@JawTooth]

You should see part 2 for this video. I filmed this crew in Franklin Ohio from the sidewalk and they called the police.

[@richardsylvanus2717]

@@JawTooth O M G!

[@bootsdocsandconspiracies6589]

@@JawTooth Is this the same female engineer you filmed previously a few times when doing the street running in Franklin? Though she was friendly than?

[@Cam-cb4io]

Karen in the locomotive complaining about you filming!

[@charlottecunningham2141]

Lol

[@parrott350]

LOL 'Karen'

[@waynebarnhart7294]

They may not have heard of rail fan.. 🚂 Good Job .. 😎 73's Wayne

[@TrainsOnGoPro]

Nice Video! Tom!!