Jay Cutler: Men's Physique Trains Harder Than Some Men's Open Olympia Bodybuilders | GI Vault

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Jay Cutler debunks the myth that Men's Physique doesn't train as hard as Men's Open bodybuilding.
Ever since the introduction and success of the Men's Physique division, it has been the subject of criticism by some vocal fans and even other pro athletes. Multiple reasons are cited, but these critics believe that Men's Physique is a less prestigious division and doesn't deserve the same respect. Many Men's Physique athletes have been offended by this and some, like Jeremy Buendia, have been very vocal about it. In our latest GI Exclusive Vault interview, Jay Cutler not only defends Men's Physique but also claims that they train harder than some Men's Open bodybuilders who compete in the Mr. Olympia.
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[@upinarms5752]

I think jay is very considerate in how he answers, he is also fair, very diplomatic.

[@jeffschultz4168]

You can tell he tries to be respectful to everyone...bodybuilders aren't the only athletes out there in this type of sport and there are pros and cons to all of it and everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, he gets it and is super respectful...he surely also understands the craziness goes on in the sport with the extreme level needed to be the best.

[@matty6848]

Of course he does. He has his custom and business to think about.

[@rauls13]

Like flex wheeler, very kind men

[@EmirAssassin]

It's very interesting to see one of the biggest names of the sport speak so humble and knowingly when bodybuilding has this reputation for being the sport of dumb brutes

[@hieveryone.8508]

@@EmirAssassin. Many of them are maybe dumb brutes, but Jay is definetely not one of them. Jay Cutler is probably one of the richest Bodybuilder when it comes to getting rich from business he has started. I think his net worth is around 30 million dollars. Yes Arnold is much richer, but Arnold got his money from being a Hollywood movie star and not from starting and creating his own businnesses. (Sorry my english)

[@quinnmcdonald3763]

Jay says whatever he is thinking. I like that

[@PRATHAMESH001]

thats true

[@TheBiGBOsS767]

345562 22 tf

[@mathew6261]

Not afraid to mention race and just say it like it is. Love it. 👌🏼👍🏼

[@KNByam]

Wrong, he has an opinion but most importantly he knows how to express what he feels without offending anyone. Its called being an adult and a businessman.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

This means a lot coming from Mr Olympia himself

[@Mphaphathe_Story]

Lol you the 1st one here

[@MartysHairline]

What upppp haven’t saw you in the comments for a while

[@blambo3579]

Dude its like u have the exact same interests as me

[@JustArtsCreations]

i really enjoy your name.

[@justsomeguywithamiketysont5488]

Fax

[@niteshneermul2363]

The interviewer sounds like he's talking from his bathroom. 😂

[@jaymentzer7220]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Beastking1107]

I wouldnt be surprised if it is so, just to piss people of

[@SuperAlien2011]

That comment cracked me up!

[@EduardoCadena1]

He's the worst damn interviewer ever

[@aksky9819]

🤣🤣🤣

[@80hazarkeshoeshain]

Jay has always been the facts guy and I dig that about him. No bullshit, just straight facts.

[@AdarshSingh-rm6er]

You're right.

[@danielmahoney6023]

I always look forward to a Jay Cutler interview

[@pvpmartins]

HARDER THAN LAST TIME?!?!

[@jaretk7585]

Men’s is absolutely crazy right now. They are absolutely massive. People say they can just move up to classic but they are even too big for that! I don’t understand the point of hiding your legs either

[@efthimios]

Right as someone that comoeted amateur as so many have not a big deal anymore everyone does shows this day ..but leg question agree

[@AD-ui6sk]

I think it’s to appeal to larger audience lot of people don’t wanna look at men’s striated ass then hear them get judged on it lol (were a weird group😂) also think they’re trying to show what the perfect beach body is so the shorts kinda make sense in that scenario

[@jaretk7585]

@@AD-ui6sk yeah I agree but all the poses are just stupid. Men’s physique poses are all the exact same they just turn to different angles doing the same pose. You never really see what they look like because they are always in the “relaxed” position

[@AD-ui6sk]

@@jaretk7585 honestly I can’t debate any further I’ve never watched a show or even a routine 😂

[@jaretk7585]

@@AD-ui6sk same

[@MultiMaciek25]

Great ambassador to the sport of bosybuilding👏👍💪 Always gentleman, humble and polite. Need more " examples " of people like Jay.

[@tommyh3113]

I want to compete but my right leg is so messed up from my ACL tear and classic isn’t looking like an option, at least for the time being. I’m more then happy to do Mens Physique bc it’s my way in, it’s my way to maybe make a name for myself. I love how Jay put this, basically saying it doesn’t matter what you compete in, it matters how hard you train

[@Sa3g3r]

This just has to do with the intro saying “Dorian was the first mass monster.” Y’all ever seen Paul Dillett or

[@doubletapthatdotty4597]

@ way bugger lb for lb but dillet was so shit at posing and his back waaaank.

[@bigv8820]

@ Dillet wasn't any smaller than Dorian proportionally... Weight alone doesn't give you better proportions...

[@jamiealexander7665]

@ lol, that reminds me of when someone told me that Franco was "bigger" than Arnold. Dorian is overrated as fuck, and no he wasn't the first mass monster. Lou and Paul both dwarfed him. i.ytimg.com/vi/vJ_zQW3X8Lg/hqdefault.jpg i.imgur.com/AyK5piE.jpg

[@jamiealexander7665]

@ he was around 255 on stage, 268 in 1997 and looked horrible. Nasser was 280 and also dwarfed him. www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/1996-german-grand-prix-dorian-vs-nasser.jpg

[@bigv8820]

@ this way it makes sense I completely agree with you

[@Jayreddy500]

Once you fell in love with bodybuilding you go beyond your wildest dreams

[@michaelelijah971]

Simply put, not everyone has the genetics to go step onto the men’s open’s bodybuilding stage. Some people try so hard, juice so much yet end up looking mediocre. I wouldn’t say some categories work just as hard or less, because some people have to bust their ass and some don’t, it wouldn’t be fair to qualify people based on their effort; genetics and muscle bellies, diet, body responsiveness to juice, sports science wisdom, these things play an equally important factor in the growth of a person and their eligibility for different categories. Nonetheless, let’s not shit on the time and effort someone puts towards their passion; juiced or natty, tree trunk legs or twiggies, tall or short, let’s pour a little love into the sport and let it become what it was always meant to be: a journey.

[@patrickwilson2474]

The physique class competitors have great genetics. You failed to pick up on the part where Jay said some of the open guys 'don't have the genetics' for classic. Carrying too much muscle and having a wider waist is a genetic disadvantage. It goes both ways

[@baronvonhoughton]

The board shorts are silly, it's a physique competition after all, yet they hide legs.

[@plutobaby9996]

It’s a beauty contest

[@derwynj2441]

I mean... all bodybuilding is to an extent.

[@Aaron-rd3cd]

And some of them have insane legs so why hide them

[@GhettoPCbuilds]

@God of Frogs It’s a beauty pageant to entertain closet homosexual hosts and viewers

[@UnknownUser-nu8ny]

Rudy bodybuilding is more homoerotic than men’s physique tbh. Bunch of muscular oiled up men in colorful thongs; at least Men’s physique guys are in shorts lol.

[@mustang8206]

I like the look of physique I just wish they judged legs and some of the physique guys should really be in classic

[@plaguedferret887]

100% agree with Jay, big respect for the guy who speaks his opinion

[@joet8862]

it's true i don't think they get enough credit, it takes a lot of effort to be proportionate, symmetrical and ripped, and not abuse steroids and GH so much that their waists stop being small. It seems like the goal of open bodybuilding is just to pack on as much mass as possible without a thought for aesthetics

[@jaretk7585]

Trust me tons of guys in men’s are abusing PEDs.

[@joet8862]

@@jaretk7585 i know, that's why i said not SO MUCH THAT they end up with the big belly

[@joet8862]

@@jaretk7585 i know, that's why i said not SO MUCH THAT they end up with the big belly

[@dylanshaw7626]

Yes, that is the entire point of open aha

[@mattoniy2840]

I train physique , To be the best in physique you need to train just as hard it's just your calorie intake and drug concoction that changes.

[@luke.hardyy8642]

I think we can all agree that generation irons sole purpose is to shit I n bodybuilding and cause endless controversy

[@dqreps]

@ohj but they are still pricks

[@Beastking1107]

@ohj this video is good for example.. why? Because of mighty Jay - not because of those hype fiends

[@MrBristolboy28]

Booom well said 👏 👍

[@GregGumbel]

I remember thinking I could do men's physique. that ended last year when I came across a high school acquaintance in my gym. I'm 6'1, 220 at 17% bf. This monster walks up to me and says Hi, he's 6'2, 250lb at sub 15% bf, probably closer to 10%. Tells me he competes in Men's Physique.

[@camsmith8390]

That’s no reason not to try

[@mopardriver345]

There are different classes, light, middle and heavy. Trust me it's how you present yourself on stage. You can have the biggest guy and if he can't pose and show his look, you have him beat!👍🏿💪🏿

[@jonmatthews2731]

If you want to compete in the NPC, you're going to have to run gear bro. Just is what it is. That 250lb 12% monster you see is probably on 3 different compounds just on a cruise, not even talking about his blast cycle. If you want to stay natural, then compete in natural organizations. But if you're naturally 6'2" 220 in decent shape, then (depending on how long you've trained to get there) you probably have decent genetics for growth.

[@d0cn0tes]

They don’t get size on their legs because their is no will power and the category doesn’t ask them. They look very asymmetrical-top heavy with no legs.

[@jalenad11]

They're going for the Yield sign look.

[@pac938]

Men’s physique transitions make me cringe. Some just seem over dramatic

[@ThisisFerrariKhan]

Francisco Mendez cause they are but only cause that’s what the cornball ass judges like. Shit is corny.

[@ThisisFerrariKhan]

@Tony I was referring the judges. When I competed, the judges wanted the overly suspect ass poses, movements, and gay ass smiles. If you weren't doing that, or had too much muscle, you WERE NOT placing 1st. I'm speaking from experience. I shit you not, I was told I had too much muscle. Never thought I would hear nothing like that in my life at a bodybuilding competition.

[@ThisisFerrariKhan]

@Tony and by the way, I got 2nd place that day for those very reasons. After the competition, I DM'd one of the judges on IG and that's what he told me. smdh.

[@ThisisFerrariKhan]

@Tony he felt that I should've been in "classic bodybuilding" which was not even a category until the following year. And yes you are correct, there are a lot of dudes on gear and all that unhealthiness but I was a natty then and still am a natty, which is EXACTLY why I do not want to go into "classic". But thank you for giving your advice on something that you have zero experience in.

[@theunholygamer6474]

I've seen guys who are "hard gainers" and train so much harder than the biggest guys in my gym and they have my respect

[@hieveryone.8508]

TheUnholyGamer. But does those "hard gainers" getting great body? If they are not, they are just wasting a lot of time. If you can't get great ressult, because of genetic, then it is better to just train for health and not wasting time of and a lot of money on suplements and training.

[@tigerrr1227]

Cbum has been a weight room beast since he was 17. he could kill Open if he wanted to. He got his pro card in Open. if he could keep the vacuum, lines, etc and just add tissue, he would win an O and an A at some point.

[@gajuc2753]

Hes got health problems

[@viridius]

Jay always seems like really a good dude. I have a ton of respect for how he operates.

[@mrblondeheart9562]

Men’s Physique is the pretty boy class

[@eunice5278]

Classic Physique is for Godly physiques

[@MrWill1729]

Gym junkie Male pageants

[@brenosantana1458]

@@eunice5278 not Godly

[@brandonpotts54]

Can't think of his name but I like the one guy who trains his legs.

[@MM-ux9qb]

Probably Brandon Hendrickson

[@brandonpotts54]

@@MM-ux9qb Thats it! Dudes a beast hope he moves up in divisions.

[@saviomendes1271]

Ur forgetting Bhuwan Chauhan. . He also trains legs like total domination💪💯

[@doubletapthatdotty4597]

Logan Franklin had mad legs to even when we he was in physique.

[@Imashedjesscarabbit]

Generation iron are spoiling us with all this uploads

[@jsm5882]

I agree so much with Jay, I think men's physique competitors like Jeremy buendia train insanely hard. Working on proportion and symmetry

[@superkevv3305]

Men’s physique superhero look🦸🏼‍♂️

[@lorenzhofer8506]

Wise words, respect

[@eggggg00]

Does anyone think that men's physique athletes should size down a bit?

[@mensphysique5883]

Absolutely

[@eggggg00]

@@mensphysique5883 which size do you prefer? Me personally, i think 2015 was the best

[@Trenacetate43]

It is roided beach body. The only natural look they have are guys like ryan terry and jeff seid and they dont place well at all.

[@mensphysique5883]

@@eggggg00 i think the size of Ryan Terry looks perfect considering it as a beach body

[@mensphysique5883]

@@Trenacetate43 right

[@BEASTwriter]

Jay, I never met you but you did a tremendous job in your analysis on the different divisions/classes. Job well done. BEAST approved.

[@savage3114]

Great interview and great insight.

[@davieb113]

To be fair Arnold and Frank learned how to pose and transition from ballet 👀

[@stefanmccrae]

How old is this video? Jeremy hasn’t been champ since 2017

[@jazzdice6194]

He must of said his name cause he’s most successful men’s physique winner just like when people talk about how good Ronnie was even though he hasn’t been on stage since 07-08

[@stefanmccrae]

Jazz Dice that’s debatable

[@notepad9883]

@@stefanmccrae Yep. It's old.

[@marcosramos5117]

Yeah he states the CURRENT Men’s physique. This is 2-3 years old or so.

[@nicolaisb2]

@@jazzdice6194 what did u smoke?

[@renegadeace1735]

It's one thing to be big it's another to be big and beautiful.

[@alypixar4690]

Great video

[@gboyflip]

Good interview, I like his perspective on bodybuilding

[@sketchartphoto8117]

men like to watch open men want to look like classic women like men's physique

[@notepad9883]

Given that MP has evolved to a point where half the stage (at all levels) would not qualify for CP (and who's to say how many if they were training lower body for competition!) that last part would mostly mean that women don't care about leg development. And nothing could be further from the truth than that! Women *love* legs. Also relevantly to your assessment, they *don't* care that much about tiny waists on men. That's mostly something us men care about! So when it comes to the physique standards at least (MP still has "prettier" competitors above the neck, though that too may be evolving; compare the 2019 MP and CP Mr. Olympias for example) I don't think the last distinction holds any more. More accurate to say women liked the old MP; or real, working fitness models, including the Instagram pretty boys who are decreasingly likely to even compete in the future in the division supposedly made for them.

[@camsmith8390]

Can a woman chime in for us so we actually know?

[@notepad9883]

@@camsmith8390 Excellent idea! Also, since she won't exactly be a normie woman if she's commenting here, even less than we're normie men, ask her what the general population thinks in her social experience as possibly opposed to women who are bodybuilders or hardcore fans.

[@sketchartphoto8117]

imagine kai greene on love island....men's physique gets laid any day of the week. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmKUl3pnjrqEqaM

[@notepad9883]

@@sketchartphoto8117 In the first place, Kai Greene is bald, ugly, and 45. Of course he would not be put on Love Island. Are you really saying his problem is that his muscles are not small enough? How much trouble do you imagine Calum von Moger has attracting women? In the second place, I never said Open was the ideal men's look for women; clearly it is not. I merely said that whereas early MP was certainly the mainstream ideal for women, current MP certainly has moved away from that since half the contestants are too big for CP! Your perspective is the right idea; it's just hopelessly out of date. In the third place, on that note, I'm not sure what showing staged silliness from a prank/"pick up girls" channel creator for 12 year olds, who has competed only twice and whose "career" peaked four years ago when MP was very different, and whose "picking up girls" cringe eventually became KZbin's biggest joke, proves about whether or not today's MP has maintained the original ideal of being the best physique for attracting women.

[@angelopettinato65]

He said Bally’s!! Been about 10 years since ratchet LA Fitness bought them out in my area. That place was my home.

[@AI-lf9qb]

7:35 I thought it was the other way around bc classic has a weight limit so they can't put max amount of muscle on

[@CRCfail]

What are you advertising in the beginning of these videos? Could be more clear.

[@luyandamsweli9283]

The greatest bodybuilder ever...Jay Cutler

[@gaap12345]

Why the board shorts?

[@3im6bruno9]

I like older jay than when he was younger 🤓

[@MindfulPersonalGrowthop]

Why no mic on the interviewer?

[@ThetopG443]

This is a Beauy contest ,they wear makeup ,they get their hair done,can’t not b too vascular ,thought he was talking about bikini wtf 😱😱😱😱😱😱

[@ricenbeenz...]

Its funny how the big open class guys ridicule the mens physique for being pretty boys and softies, yet go out in freakin purple sparkly speedos, flex'n their ass cheeks lol.

[@benjaminprichard9694]

It’s weird how many of these guys describe men’s physique as “beach body”. When have you seen guys like Brandon Hendrickson out at the beach? The fact of the matter is despite how much crap the physique guys get, they’re still in the gym 6 days a week and the eat sleep and train just like the men’s open does. And the top guys like Brandon could have competed and been successful in the Arnold days (that’s just facts) yet no one is gonna give Arnold or Columbu shit.

[@Anonnonner9546]

What is the interviewer saying?

[@tyleradcock5493]

Class act

[@_fastlaner]

Liked the video before watching because Jay

[@craineyfit8619]

Jay is ridiculously methodical about his language...

[@mattsloben212]

How is that possible when they don't even train legs/lower body?!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@hetisjoelb]

The fact that they don't show them doesn't mean they don't train them. Some of them have amazing legs

[@jeffreylavergne3090]

Lots of respect for sure , except saying they have to be pretty 700 times lol

[@joshuascicluna9709]

Thankyou jay 🙏🙏

[@Matakui2011]

Men's physique looks so much better and girls love it. Not the bubble guts.

[@mattgreggo]

Jay is the man

[@tigerrr1227]

If Sadik, Jeremy, Breon, Cbum, Iain, and Hunter all worked out together, it would look almost the same. the dif is what they take and eat outside the gym.

[@doubletapthatdotty4597]

I disagree. Jeremy doesn't have the genetics to be that size and neither does sadik. C bum maybe but his genetics aren't great in some areas . Breon shouldn't even be classic. He has the genetics to be an open class guy or least 212. And Ian and Hunter aren't even worth talking about. If you had said hendrickson, Peterson, Kamal and big Ramy maybe then it would be a good comparison

[@kayson7469]

😂🤣, not gonna lie, I hate those balarina pose too, I though I was the only one saying, nahh I don't see myself competing in that devision wearing shorts and no legs day looking😅.

[@olesonjon878]

In other words 👀 men’s physique needs less girly posing😪 & just maybe it’ll start getting a lil respect for once

[@jboogy5039]

Bodybuilders are monsters but i prefer men's physique bodies.

[@johnvantarakis2241]

Look mens physique is nice but having a upper body (middle abbs to arms chest and back) to basically look like arnold but not really and train legs. Edit: you should do it natty and if you wanna take gear think about it carefully.

[@Proteinhead92]

Beach bodyish? Where those guys look like freaking mini bodybuilders, beach body was when it started, now is not

[@notepad9883]

Amen! Tired of people saying that. Though this interview is I think a few years old--from back when the MP Olympia was still Asian like Jay said!--and things have changed so rapidly even since then.

[@chrishick4515]

jay spitting facts

[@shawnbrahh]

I love Jay man 👌🏻

[@MAVuh]

Big up!

[@leveluplars]

The board shorts have to go, they are just the dumbest thing ever. Give them swimming pants or speeds even (not a fan of trunks either)

[@ayushchandel2464]

Video at 26

[@drdoom1384]

I like Jay!

[@Mocski00]

should be a politician

[@Polandsyndromebodybuilding]

The man.

[@TheDropkick]

They smile in bodybuilding too?

[@garretthigginbotham6122]

Jay for President

[@erabarq]

open shits on MP coz of jealousy that they're the ones getting more covers , sponsorships, and JVs

[@AnthonyMcqueen1987]

Its all cosmetics and no real function thats about it. I have respect for Cutler he was and will always be the man who defeated Coleman. I doubt any of those dudes can run a mile less than 5 mins without gasing out. Its just a different concept in "Sport" where as long distance runner train for function. Cosmetics vs Function.

[@insane020]

A sub 5 minute mile is extremely hard and to do multiple times would be elite class. I agree it is cosmetic just your mile standards are really high

[@AnthonyMcqueen1987]

@@insane020 Just an example it put me off when calling these people athletes. When they dont train for actual function just cosmetic purposes only.

[@CapUnlimited]

Justin Rodrigues 5 min mile is extremely difficult

[@AnthonyMcqueen1987]

@@CapUnlimited If you train for it for a couple of months its easily possible compared to a sub 4min mile that takes world class endurance.

[@natanmandala]

Jay is a cool ass guy...SBN

[@aarondjoo]

Who the hell is the interviewer? Doesn't sound prepared and just says what do you think about these things? Like dafooq nahmean?

[@BlamBird]

Buendia hasn’t been the champ for 2 years now lol

[@kv7936]

he had an injury last year and the year before but he will come back at 2021 💪🏼

[@xTheSniperExpert]

some of the them wear make up hhhh lol im done

[@JackC940]

xTheSniperExpert no different to Olympia guys being tanned

[@Taglebot]

Bally’s 😂 Wow, Jay

[@Micarunwithme]

Hate their transitions. Jay knows.

[@iscreamfitness]

Brain and gains Wow

[@shamanculture780]

Im physique honestly id fight body builders. These dudes look big slow and tired.

[@georgyhot1]

Talk is cheap... Proving it is a different story !!!!

[@_LeQuocBao-ok9qj]

Steroid vs no steroid

[@Daniel-mf3bc]

They both take steroids open do often take higher amounts

[@robchang4410]

at 4:50 : i think jay just said that a plastic 45 lbs plate is lighter then a 45 lbs steel plate... lol (love this guys insights) 😂

[@Diego-he1ku]

Jay cutler is the best holder of the Mr O besides Arnold imo

[@snoopxdoug]

Dorian? Ronnie??

[@F_antomas]

short people Ha HA ridiculous division

[@1432-n5c]

Open bodybuilders only to watch mot what people want to be

[@aavichouhan]

does jay eat maggie, just curious, i think he eats maggie, may be he loves maggie, please help

[@benlittle849]

Cutler Athletics

[@deku1866]

❤

[@raffaelle462]

some of them wear make up!!!!!!

[@Karan_K_Baharani]

👌🏼👌🏼

[@JTdarkstarr105]

Mad respect to jay for giving mp credit.

[@F_antomas]

ballerina gay posing LOL

[@thomasmark692]

👏👌👍

[@BuffNerdInCa]

"I think the beginner guys it is awesome because you don't have to carry a ton of mass" Jay is trying to be diplomatic.. but in his eyes.. it is like a 50 meter race where no once is allowed to come in faster than 12 seconds... and he did it in 5.

[@jakethepitador2558]

In my personal opinion, "Men's Physique" is a men's beauty pageant and doesn't belong on a bodybuilding stage. Yes, they are in great athletic shape, aesthetically beautiful by the average non-bodybuilding fan's standard, but not having to show leg development by wearing board shorts? Bodybuilding is about building muscle in proper proportions over the entire body, all the muscle groups. Anything other than that should not earn an IFBB bodybuilding pro card. The "BB" stands for "Bodybuilding."