Super Metroid - An Imperfect Masterpiece | JBTV

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Super Metroid is quite possibly one of the single most influential games to exist. It might not have been the first Metroidvania title to exist, but it definitely kickstarted the genre, and the aftershocks of its earth shattering influence are still felt in side scrolling action titles to this day.
Super Metroid is far from perfect, and it does frustrate me; this is an indisputable fact. But it is still a generational masterpiece in that respect.
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[@MZ117.]

Agree with a decent amount of this, buttt - you didn’t save the animals !!

[@JBshreds]

True story, until I was like 21, I didn’t even know that was an option. Either I was just uninformed or blind, probably a mixture of both.

[@MZ117.]

@@JBshreds GDQ really popularized it!

[@okayladykay]

Dang, You deserve more views! Great content man! Also, I like listening to your voice.

[@JBshreds]

I appreciate that. Thank you!

[@NovemberHotel]

Metroid a masterpiece? Nah this video is a masterpiece.

[@JBshreds]

aww bby

[@Madadader]

This was such a fun video. It took my tired ass morning and made it more than bearable. Incredible work. Super funny and relatable.

[@JBshreds]

Thank you!

[@TBarnett]

29:51 Not quite the first implementation of the Space Jump. That honor goes to Metroid II: Return of Samus on the Game Boy three years earlier. This is actually a bit easier to pull off than that implementation. The only real pain in the ass I have with SM's version is going below the activation point since it just lets you fall from heights. Maridia's tallest points always pissed me off a little bit because of that.

[@JBshreds]

Believe it or not, Metroid II is one of the few games I never actually got a chance to play! I hear it’s a bit wonky but, I seem to be drawn to those kinds of games. Get this feeling that I’d have blast with it. Also I had a blurb written about Maridia but it was mostly just me uncontrollably weeping so I just cut it out altogether.

[@MediocreSix]

All of my favourite games are imperfect. But in saying that, you can see imperfections in Davinci's brushwork too. Nothing will be the perfect product. The day we create flawlessness in art, is the day mankind has reached its summit. I thoroughly believe that a masterpiece isn't something without flaw. Its something that supercedes its flaws.

[@JBshreds]

Never have I heard a better description of what a masterpiece is.

[@michaelflanigan412]

Great video, you gained a subscribe.

[@DMantra]

great content, subbed

[@talphadoggthebronzesupport4992]

The gravity suit is immune to magma, it however is not immune to acid. They do look different however only slightly so thinking they are the same is fair. I think they should have used a more defined color pallet for acid to better differentiate between the two.

[@joshuasanderson7359]

Also it can be difficult for those of us with colourblindness to tell!

[@JBshreds]

TELL ME ABOUT IT, ugh. While it was an inconsequential gripe, that has always chapper for me

[@benox50]

This resumes alot of issues new players have with SM, it is an akward curve and even after conquering it

[@transmet2033]

One of my favorite tidbits I have learned over the past few years messing around with the randomizer. You don't need Ice Beam to beat the game. Enough power bombs will destroy the Metroids.

[@JBshreds]

I read that there was a skip and I was 100% going to pull it but I just could not for the life of me get it right so I just cut it out of the video altogether.

[@transmet2033]

@@JBshreds Like the baby Metroid skip? I have never done it, I usually run into the giant side hopper to do damage so the health drain doesn't take as long.

[@thegameslibrarian5264]

This was great just to know you can get the spazer early with some wall jumping

[@JBshreds]

I tried so hard to get it early, I really did but I just failed every single TIME

[@thegameslibrarian5264]

@@JBshreds it can be a little tricky 😀

[@thegameslibrarian5264]

I look forward to your next video

[@KidPrarchord95]

29:51 Space Jump was actually introduced in Metroid 2, and it was far worse there.

[@JBshreds]

So I’ve been told! Apparently it was miserably implemented to the point where it just kind of sucked. That’s an oof in my part tho, guess I didn’t research enough.

[@KidPrarchord95]

@@JBshreds Yeah, it was absolutely a chore to use in both that game and this one. I'm all for space-jump requiring timing to use, instead of just being semi-spammable like it is in later games, but the way it's implemented here just feels clunky. I took the complete opposite approach in my Zero Mission ROM hack, though; I lowered the space-jump delay to zero. People seem to like it a lot, that way.

[@DoomBowser64]

Ocarina of Time needs a review like this. Also love your sense of humor it's fucking great :]

[@talphadoggthebronzesupport4992]

Watch egoraptors retrospective on oot. It spells out a lot of what is wrong with the game in today's view but was just accepted back then.

[@JBshreds]

@@talphadoggthebronzesupport4992 you beat me to it, I was going to say the exact same thing. It’s a great watch and highlights a lot of inconsistencies with how people view it due to its age.

[@esmooth919]

19:55 I have to say, the grapple beam in this game is borderline useless because I know how to wall jump, But especially here! I can just shine spark my way over there, and then take a dip in the lava on my way back, because I have the energy to spare. 🤣🤣🤣

[@JBshreds]

wall jumping is so EASYYY

[@esmooth919]

@@JBshreds once u learn how to do it. But for those who don't...? Ohhhhh, boy!

[@JBshreds]

It makes me wish more people casually streamed Super Metroid, or classic Metroid games in general. It’s so interesting watching other people play so differently than oneself.

[@esmooth919]

@@JBshreds i haven't seen that many streams, but i have seen quite a few playthrus of this game

[@sickestbasstard]

Hmmmm human suffering 🤤 Jokes aside good video 👍

[@JBshreds]

I exist in a perpetual state of suffering and anguish, that’s just how I roll

[@ArelArts]

I NEED MORE!!! GIVE ME ALL THE OTHER METROID!!!... and yes even that one... other M (i kinda like it, judge me all you want)

[@JBshreds]

If I hit 100k I’ll upload a video about Other M, that’s a guarantee. …oh god I hope I don’t hit 100k

[@ArelArts]

​@@JBshreds 👁👄👁I'll been here waiting! Here you have kind gentleman, my humble subscription

[@mangu3574]

Interesting, a quality recommendation from a small channel. I'm a huge metroid fan and somewhat of a Super Metroid veteran, after beating it a couple of times you figure out item skips and whatnot which you expect on today's Super Metroid reviews but no, this is a review from a newbie point of view who enjoys the game as is, not bothering themselves with "techniques" and "how it should be played", although using "baby screw attack in Phantoon's boss fight makes it a cakewalk to avoid those flaming eyes. So refreshing to see such high quality YET seeing the player get destroyed by stuff everyone gets destroyed by the fist time around like Kraid. Also, my biggest gripe is the powerup jingle EVERY. DAMN. TIME... I get it would be cool for new significant upgrades, not for every missile, e-tank, etc packs you find... PS: Acid =/= Magma c:

[@JBshreds]

I'm not very good at any game really. I just got to a point with this channel where it wasn't fun anymore, so I revamped every aspect of it and essentially started from scratch. I like exploring games from all generations, and Metroid is something I've loved since I was just a boy. As much as it frustrates me, Super Metroid is quite possibly my favorite of the mainline series. Also, can confirm that hearing the item acquired jingle every...single...time...is absolutely horrible.

[@anthonyferguson9282]

Haven't watched the video yet, but seeing as how it is one of my all time favorite games ever, I wanna see hard look take on it's negatives. You've shown the "inventory" at the top twice now and I don't know that the issue is yet, but we'll see. And my difficult annoyance isn't wall jumping, but bomb jumping. grr. Update 1: You talk about wall jumping being hard to brats building fortnite bases in a split second, but your issue with the weapon select is that you can't remember which weapon you're on and waste a missle or super missile? Are you the kind of player in any fps where you have to reload in a combat because you don't stay topped off? I feel it's the same thing. Shoot a bit, reload at your first one second respite, use some missiles and as soon as you've done whatever you needed them for, hit the reload button. Oh, I mean the unequip button. You should never be just running around with weapons equipped, or a half empty clip. Update 2: Yes, the X-Ray not working on everything was super irritating. I am still missing two missile packs in Lower Norfair. Update 3: Use your bombs as you falling from the first bump so that the metroids are actually hit by the explosions.........

[@JBshreds]

Bomb jumping is such a pain in this game. I still struggle with it and I'm pretty sure either my hands don't work right because I know its frame specific but I miss that frame like 98% of the time. As for the weapon bar, I'm not really a fan of button mashing and that's kind of how its always come off as to me. I think my biggest personal annoyance was either max jump height or having to mash select to change weapons. I also understand that was likely purposeful design, given the hidden beam abilities, but to maybe give some more perspective here, the GBA had two less buttons than the snes controller, and Metroid Fusion was still less clustered. Like Super Missiles replacing missiles when acquired, or power bombs being a morph ball specific item. Abilities were built into the control scheme rather than around it like in Super Metroid. That's just an example though, I still maintain that this is one of my favorite games of all time, though I take issue with its controls which have always felt so awkward to me even as a boy. Also yes I am 100% the player that absolutely HAS to reload. As terrible of a habit as it is, I 100% am that guy. As for the x-ray scope...well, I hate it and it makes me want to die. On another note, it still perplexes me that metroids can take like, three power bombs before getting tired of me. I don't know if that's terrifying or impressive? Maybe a bit of both.

[@talphadoggthebronzesupport4992]

@@JBshreds I've always changed my control scheme so my cancel button is different. As far as bomb jumping goes. I dont think it was ment to be easy as it can lead to soft locking in some places. Its also supposed to be kinda a reward for players who become waayyyyy to good at the game.

[@havocking9224]

Acid ≠ magma. Anyway good video :)))))

[@JBshreds]

BUT WHO'S IDEA WAS IT TO MAKE THEM ALMOST THE EXACT SAME SHADE OF ORANGE THOUGH

[@havocking9224]

@@JBshreds Dunno, i am not developer of this game :D

[@legendxcarisso]

If I recall correctly, you had Destiny 2 builds. Why did you hide them?? I quite relied on your Mantle/Ager's Scepter builds.. which I can't re-review because they don't EXIST anymore.

[@JBshreds]

I set everything Destiny on my channel to private. Having those videos public affects my placement in the search and confuses the algorithm, especially now. I’ll be honest, I don’t want to play Destiny anymore and frankly I haven’t in years but I kept doing it anyway because it was gaining views. And finally just last month, for personal reasons, I decided that it was time to be done with it. So I made all of them private. I can confidently say I likely will not return to Destiny. Just got tired of pretending to like something I couldn’t stand my guy. Apologies if that’s a bit of a let down, genuinely.

[@ytnukesme1600]

man you're trying so hard to be Civvie11, good luck to you man.

[@JBshreds]

While I do sincerely appreciate the thought and the comment, can confirm that being “like Civvie11” is not a part of my schedule.

[@Tanookicatoon]

This is one of the most honest Super Metroid reviews ever, and I wish people would be this honest about the game more often. lol Also, it really is "Zebeth" it wasn't spelled wrong. It's like "Nyansu" "Meowth" or even Aerith from Final Fantasy 7, and how people to this day think it's pronounce Sephiroth his theme song literally says Sephiross. The Japanese will say the word how it's meant to be pronounced, localization be damned. lol It's Zebeth. Also: The magma you think you're getting damaged by is actually acid. They added protection from that in Zero Mission. So it's like, just an oversight. But yeah. It's not Magma which is why you're hurt by it. But I agree, should be protected from it anyway. extra edit... how do you have over 10k followers, but your videos almost never break 500 views. WHAT??

[@JBshreds]

I used to be a Destiny player. I had well over 100 videos, all of them within 20k-30k view range, with a few here and there that broke 100k but after two years of literally nothing but Destiny videos and seven years of playing nothing else, I decided it just wasn't for me anymore. So I rebranded, and this was the result! I expected a large drop in views, but I'm okay with that. I'm far more comfortable working like this and I'm much happier with my work now too.

[@Tanookicatoon]

@@JBshreds Ahhh the whole "moving out of your audience" curse. That would do it. XP

[@JBshreds]

Yep yep, though I personally don’t see it as a curse. I couldn’t work on a Destiny video for more than an hour before I’d start feeling sick to my stomach. Now I can spend a month on a single video, like this one, and I feel accomplished. I wasn’t happy and it was bleeding into my work. As long as I’m entertaining someone, I don’t really mind having low view counts again.

[@inasuma8180]

My conclusion after playing a lot of games before super metroid, it’s obvious to me metroid pioneered its category. But its age really shows. Controls are stiff and the whole item switching system is ass. The floaty physics are also a little awkward/frustrating.

[@JBshreds]

realistically my biggest issue was the fact that every time I jumped I'd crater the fucking ceiling

[@lightblueyoshi1990]

No nostalgia here. Was not even a fan of the series till I was 22. 2012 when I first played Fusion on my 3DS. (Ambasitor program) Went into Super knowing people said it was good, and Fusion had improved jank stuff. And yes, the weapon swaping bar is pain. Glad it never returned.

[@JBshreds]

I’m so glad the weapon bar died in a ditch somewhere, I mean I admire it’s mechanical goal but jesus

[@bakubread9308]

As a big Metroid fan, this video is... interesting. I've never considered Super Metroid to be the best in the franchise, Zero Mission and Prime 2 have always been my personal favorites (they are also flawed, of course, I just enjoy them both much more), and I absolutely agree with a lot of what you're saying. Of course, playing this game pretty regularly since I was ten makes me really not care that Missiles and Super Missiles are seperate, the only games to combine them are Dread and Fusion after all. The weird hotbar system was definitely a mistake, though. Thank god they never brought that back. Overall you make good points, but you lean into being absurdly mad about the flaws a bit too much for my taste. Also, Kraid, difficult? lol Fun Facts(?): From what I've heard (aka; don't quote me on this, pretty sure it was in an interview somewhere) that wall that you can't see is fake with your X-Ray Scope isn't meant to be like that, it's a bug. Also, the Space Jump's timing actually varies depending on the room you're in, because certain rooms lag a bit and throw the window off. That's why it feels so inconsistent in Super and only in Super. I don't actually have a source for this, it's just what I deduced from years of playing and noticing how it seemingly acts differently depending on the room, most often feeling "off" in big rooms.

[@JBshreds]

Prime is my absolute 100% favorite but, it is technically a spin off from the main scenario. That is something that is guaranteed to be be uploaded to this channel in the future because that game just hits different. It is SO good. As for the space jump, I had a feeling it wasn’t just me. I can nail it in every other game but here I just fumble around. It feels awkward.

[@thefizzwizz1662]

I'm nearly 40 minutes into this video and I just now realized you sound like a younger Roger Craig Smith. As someone who has absolutely no nostalgia for this game, it's aight. I can see why so many people love it and I appreciate it for what it has done for not only the Metroid franchise, but the gaming industry as well. However I just can't bring myself to enjoy it as much as other people do. Your common Metroid fan won't admit it, but Super Metroid HAS aged whether they like it or not. Also, the wall jumping is ass. This isn't coming from someone who can't do it. Execution is not the problem for me. Platformers are my bread and butter. I've played tons of them, many of them with complex mechanics like wall jumping and more. I can fucking wall jump in Super Metroid. Super Metroid's wall jumping is just terribly designed and implemented. Samus Returns and Dread have more than proven the old wall jumping system to be archaic.

[@JBshreds]

I dunno my man. I guess my brain can just adjust to the wonk that is the wall jump. The game definitely has aged for sure though.