The Car Toyota Were Afraid to Build: I Drive a 320HP 3.5L V6 MR2

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JayEmm on Cars

JayEmm on Cars

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@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 4 ай бұрын
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@cmhidalgo
@cmhidalgo 3 ай бұрын
They didn't have a 3.5l 2gr v6 til 2005. Sw20 mr2 was 90 to 99. The 3sgte i4 made 260ish hp in 99. I believe the 1mz 3.0l v6 made 200hp. 3mz 3.3l v6 came out in 2004. So the v6s with more power didn't exist til 2004 2005ish. 3sgte i4 in sw20 you just turn up the boost and get more power. I have a 99 beams 3sge vvti non turbo i4 with 190 hp stock. Turbo i4 in 90s vs non turbo v6 in 90s. Boost.
@jimmyfarley5581
@jimmyfarley5581 3 ай бұрын
On a personal note I'd like commend you on your swearing free content. My young lads love your channel. They can watch it freely without the risk of them picking up bad language. Thank you. Well spoken,mature professionals are hard to come by . It's appreciated.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 3 ай бұрын
Thankyou. I am conscious of it. I do drop in the odd one, but if there is a serious one I will always warn you at the beginning so you can choose what is appropriate
@GRamerDim
@GRamerDim Ай бұрын
how can they grow normal if they don't curse a bit here and there
@felixarbable
@felixarbable Ай бұрын
@@GRamerDim ah yes all a child needs is nutrition love and swearing to make sure he grows up normal🤣
@1000sofusernames
@1000sofusernames 16 күн бұрын
If you can't articulate your thoughts without swearing you are indeed, limited. There are plenty of workarounds that just require the use of a dictionary.
@jameslaidler2152
@jameslaidler2152 12 күн бұрын
​@@1000sofusernamesOn the whole, yes I agree. Though of course in life, there are times where a swear is just the only appropriate response.
@leonessmann7786
@leonessmann7786 3 ай бұрын
I bought an 1991 MR2 as my first car back in 2019. It is a german version with the 156hp 3sge. Even though it has about 275000 kilometers on the odometer, it pushed 160hp and 190nm on the Dyno. I love to have the targa roofs off all summer long and I think even in near stock form it is a very delicate machine. I love it more and more every single day and I will never sell it. Great car btw👆🏻😍
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 3 ай бұрын
They are so engaging and emotional things to own. Please watch for rust on the sills. Take the door cards out and remove the foam. That's what kills most MR2s.
@leonessmann7786
@leonessmann7786 3 ай бұрын
@@ianedmonds9191 Thank you for mentioning. It’s very important to know the rust spots on these cars. By now I’m aware of pretty much all of them and they’ve ether been repaired or being watched and preserved with wax to prevent more damage. It’s also a garaged car and I never drove it with salt on the road and it rarely sees rain😌
@zedfender9423
@zedfender9423 6 күн бұрын
Nice 1st car my 1st car was a mk2 fiesta popular 950. Got an mr2 now though ok its a mk3 but its so gpod.
@highlandparkguitarlessons8129
@highlandparkguitarlessons8129 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, this sounds like a dream Mr2 setup. How Toyota did consider this and have the foresight is beyond me. It’s a great setup for what an enthusiast would enjoy, the sound is very tuneful and lively. If the horsepower was matched to say 330-350hp, what a bargain 355 competitor that Toyota really missed the mark on. I’ve always been perplexed by Toyota, they have shown to genius in engineering in the past and that they can make spectacular examples but not doing something like this just seems like they were asleep at the wheel. I do wish the Mr2 was always a tad larger, the design seems like it wants to be actually. Great content Jay, as always very insightful and informative.
@technosworld2
@technosworld2 3 ай бұрын
The 3S-GTE is a legendary turbo engine that Toyota was already using in other cars and can be tuned to make a lot of power, so I think that's why they went with that one for most markets.
@TheCraigy83
@TheCraigy83 3 ай бұрын
it would be faster then the higher priced Supra , like ford making a xr3 faster then a Sierra cossy .they wouldn't do it .
@sergiopereira9546
@sergiopereira9546 3 ай бұрын
this engine only came after 2005 and this gen mr2 ended in 99 , before that toyota didnt have a v6 that came even close to 300hp neither they were full aluminium so in the end the car would just be more expensive and unbalanced. Europe never had the turbo version but that engine takes mods very well and nowadays can make way more power than this v6 could ever dream
@gairnmclennan5876
@gairnmclennan5876 3 ай бұрын
94" wheelbase it's ok. A 911 is less. A TVR griff is only 90"
@MR2GR
@MR2GR 3 ай бұрын
IMO it's already a 355 competitor at 320 hp. That's about what I've estimated mine at (dyno was 265whp, with a ~17% transmission loss for the e153), and my best draggy times were 4.3s 0-6 (4.1s with a 1 foot rollout, like motortrend uses) and 12.89s 1/4 @ 106mph. (Per Motortrend) The 355 berlinetta was tested at 4.7s 0-60, and 12.8s 1/4 @ 110mph. Also, thr 3.5l v8 in the 355 may make 375hp, but it only made 275lb-ft tq, where even my mr2, which doesn't post the best 2gr mr2 numbers is ~300lb-ft tq at the crank (250 at the wheels). But I do agree with you about toyota never putting a v6 in it from the factory. It's dissapointing.
@J.Wick.
@J.Wick. 3 ай бұрын
One of my favorite cars ever. I got to ride in a near brand new 1994 Turbo Manual back when I was 10 or 11. My dad worked at a Toyota dealer. I'd often go hangout at the lot with him during the summer when out of school. One day, they needed to make a bank run. They usually chose to take something fun. Usually used when they did so. I'll never forget feeling boost for the first time lol. Always wanted one of these. I've owned 2 4G Preludes, very similar looking, but very different otherwise. Maybe one day.
@4N15H
@4N15H 3 ай бұрын
Great video. As an owner of one of these I can say, with confidence, that you can build a V6 SW20 for significantly less than this build. You can build yourself a fully driving and sorted 1MZ or 3VZ conversion for around £3.5k if you are willing to get your mits grubby. There are even Woodsport wiring harnesses and adapters which plug and play. You can get away with just a standard replacement clutch. Only one specific engine mount is needed for the MR2, the rest just bolt up. 1GR engines are not easy to come by in the UK and can be comparatively much dearer than other markets (US), so consider the cost to value when picking an engine. A BEAMS and 3SGTE conversion will cost similar money to a 2GR, all with their pros and cons.
@Siracusano
@Siracusano 2 ай бұрын
I loved my 2.0 MR2. 2004, the T bar roof leaked, the back would twitch in the wet constantly but that gear shift, that amazing gearbox has been unmatched since. What a car for a 22 year old!
@242Evangelion
@242Evangelion 3 ай бұрын
You are the Top Gear presenteter we never got but should. So good at presenting the story of the car. That you first thought that the car couldn't handle the extra power but you were wrong. You are so balanced in your view of cars overall and great reviewer or cars here on KZbin. Keep it up. Cheers from Sweden.
@starfox_wr-45e93
@starfox_wr-45e93 3 ай бұрын
I was so close to building one of these myself. Had the engine, car.. then life got in the way. I will build one. I'm not giving up on this one. I will have my Toyota Evora one day.
@mrkazman
@mrkazman 3 ай бұрын
I have one in Australia, basically the same spec. Originally one of the few dozen Bathurst editions from '99. I spank it up and down the mountains near Healesville and Lake Eildon. With a free breathing exhaust it is incredibly loud, even on engine braking. , but if you just crack the throttle to stop that, it runs almost silently. I can tell the ECU reflash wasn't quite done on your example, it was bouncing off the limit far too easily (and no, there is no redline-by-gear. The ECU doesnt know what gear it's in). I could bore you all to tears with more details, but Jay got it as right as necessary. Take care of these cars, they are special. But use them. Please.
@PiDsPagePrototypes
@PiDsPagePrototypes 3 ай бұрын
Did you do it yourself or pay a workshop? I'm interested to know how difficult it was to fabricate engine and gearbox mounts to suit. Always wanted one of these body styles, and the challange of turning the spanners myself would be a welcome mind clearing relaxation.
@Low760
@Low760 3 ай бұрын
​@@PiDsPagePrototypesthe 3s mounts in later camrys so I'd imagine the opposite works
@samuelschelling5382
@samuelschelling5382 3 ай бұрын
Glass panels store behind the seats. I owned one and it's a super fun vehicle to daily, even with the stock 3S-GE engine.
@mantarayal
@mantarayal 3 ай бұрын
Check out Sarah'n'Tuned currently fitting a V8 into a gorgeous 70s Celica. She also has a nut and bolt resto MK2 MR2. She's awesome.
@Maulyr
@Maulyr Ай бұрын
I briefly had a '90 MR2 NA followed by an imported MR2 turbo which I absolutely loved. Never got around to getting a V6 MR2 as I moved on to a Celica ST205WRC and then ST185RC for practicality. Loved this vid! Very minor correction - the T-bar panels went behind the seats ideally, not the precious boot :]
@capn_shawn
@capn_shawn 3 ай бұрын
My '93 hardtop has always been my favorite car. Till a pickup pull out in front of it, destroying it and leaving a hole in my heart the shape of the last Toyota worth owning.
@EZ-D-FIANT
@EZ-D-FIANT 3 ай бұрын
@capn_shawn wounding, I've got a 91 hardtop with a 3rd gen 3sgte in so know how hard ghe tin tops are to find, has mine around 12 years now I bought it as a shell and have built every part myself (skyline brakes, celica front, active aero ect) I'd probably cry for years if someone hit mine like that sorry for your loss buddy....
@longtailgt
@longtailgt 3 ай бұрын
0:15 that gobsmacking moment coupled with the background music was hilarious! You should do more pieces like this.
@eoinmurphy2438
@eoinmurphy2438 3 ай бұрын
Mr2s are 30 yrs old now. You wouldn't be long spending 10k rebuilding a 3sgte for power If mine goes pop il be doing a 2gr. Its a perfectly realistic diy project with all the bits and information off the shelf Makes a much more exotic car than the gen2 turbo Frankenstein motorworks has the full build well documented on KZbin. Love the content Jay👍
@gairnmclennan5876
@gairnmclennan5876 3 ай бұрын
Who would have guessed the V6 would fit! The exhaust note is superb.
@eoinmurphy2438
@eoinmurphy2438 3 ай бұрын
3 of the 4 engine mounts in an mr2 are on the gearbox. And thankfully the gearbox bolt pattern is the same as the v6. It's the perfect engine for an mr2 Pity you don't come across 2gr in ireland at all
@RobertIsaacs-z3c
@RobertIsaacs-z3c 3 ай бұрын
Just rebuilt a GEN2. I'm at $3800 for 540WHP, ready to last another 30 years, with enough cylinder wall left to do again in another 30 years.
@SoulTouchMusic93
@SoulTouchMusic93 3 ай бұрын
a k20 is one engine mount away from dropping in btw. the gearbox linkage fits on the honda box too.
@Malice_doll
@Malice_doll 22 күн бұрын
@@gairnmclennan5876There’s an LS4 swapped one near me for $15k. People have fit v12’s in there as well but there’s only 2 known examples and at least one cut the firewall in the cabin away from
@AntoniusTyas
@AntoniusTyas 3 ай бұрын
That intro is both hilarious and alarming. 11/10. Also, boy that 2GR sounds so good. Sad Toyota never really made V6-powered MR2. But if the rumours are true and they will actually make GR MR2 in the future with GR Yaris 3-pots, that'll be the next best thing.
@alechappy2070
@alechappy2070 3 ай бұрын
3 pots will always be half what they really need to be. The 2GR - FE is a motor, if serviced, that will outlive creation. Oh and that linear power build to from 1500 - 6,550 rpm is amazing. I love mine.
@tonyireland2234
@tonyireland2234 3 ай бұрын
3 pots ? No thanks and yes I know they are very powerful,but a V6 is a proper engine.(well 3/4).
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting 2 ай бұрын
Toyota's turbo 3 is seriously powerful for what it is. GR Yaris is mighty quick.
@Soulrollsdeep
@Soulrollsdeep 2 ай бұрын
​@@alechappy2070haha, imagine thinking you're an expert on the life expectancy of the GR engines 😅😅
@miggy9260
@miggy9260 3 ай бұрын
The 90’s goat. Owned two. One was a V6 Vzfe swap. Amazing cars. The swap had tons of torque
@markmcgrath9098
@markmcgrath9098 3 ай бұрын
I’d argue that the NSX is everyone’s favourite Japanese budget Ferrari.
@Boz196
@Boz196 3 ай бұрын
Not so budget anymore lol
@thrasher10000
@thrasher10000 3 ай бұрын
@@markmcgrath9098 worth more than some Ferraris now
@chefgiovanni
@chefgiovanni 3 ай бұрын
A Infiniti G35 sounds better and goes faster. Ours has 360 hp to the rear wheels, goes 50 mph in 2nd, 90 in 3rd and over 120 in 4th, 5,6, save gas. Hit the gym hard every other day, drop a few dozen Kilo's, thank me later.
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting 2 ай бұрын
​@@thrasher10000 Well the Mondial and 348 were truly disastrous.
@alcantarainterior8078
@alcantarainterior8078 2 ай бұрын
No longer a budget car - Even if you find a shell or “not running condition one” you’ll end up paying a year salary on the purchase
@mattewj1268
@mattewj1268 3 ай бұрын
This car sounds really lovely, I'm seriously tempted to build one of these.
@paultucker1272
@paultucker1272 3 ай бұрын
Good lawwwwwd that sounds good! And Mk2 MR2s just seem to get better looking as time goes by. Not sure I could justify that sort of outlay, but I'm really glad this fella has. A seriously desirable car!
@2JZDestroyer
@2JZDestroyer 3 ай бұрын
@3:20 you could also send it back to Toyota for the technocraft TRD2000GT(jgtc body, but with all the street car comforts) upfitting , or send it to SARD for the MC4 GTII(information is extremely limited on power output, however it has significant aero updates) upfitting, which in some cases left SW20s with upwards of 500whp. This is very much the 90s equivalent of calling up Manthey Racing for a GT3 RS build; meaning expensive.
@dylansmit3883
@dylansmit3883 2 ай бұрын
Toyota never made a V6 MR2, but they technically did make one with a V8. It was branded as the SARD MC8 and was a homologation special for LMGT1 racing. It used the 4.0 out of the Lexus LS400, with two turbos added. Only the survival cell has any MR2 dna left though.
@eoinmurphy2438
@eoinmurphy2438 19 күн бұрын
Just as a minor correction on the content. Mr2 has an electric pump that runs a hidrollic pump. That then runs a std type hidrollic rack. Iv just completed an overhaul on my gen 2 turbo car. I took the steering rack pinion from a mk3 mr2. It goes directly into the mk2 rack and takes the ratio down by about30% Really nice mod. Takes 2 hrs and costs feck all. Really surprised not many more people do it
@aymaneoubad5057
@aymaneoubad5057 3 ай бұрын
The owner made an already cool car even cooler. Thank you and him for sharing, and cheers!
@713vinh
@713vinh 3 ай бұрын
I had a 1993 MR2 Turbo back in High School and indeed I was the coolest kid on the block. Really loved that csr.
@ExUSSailor
@ExUSSailor 3 ай бұрын
Toyota has always been a notoriously conservative car-maker.
@izzy031096
@izzy031096 3 ай бұрын
They over engineer things for sure. This makes them brilliant tuner vehicles
@dougr5809
@dougr5809 3 ай бұрын
⁠true, but that’s not why
@Ammotive28
@Ammotive28 3 ай бұрын
Yes they give us the perfect blank canvas to build stuff very un-conservative. 86, supra, mr2, JZX platform most of them end up pretty bonkers. And than we have the GR Yaris.
@warbuzzard7167
@warbuzzard7167 3 ай бұрын
By "conservative," you mean "boring."
@thrasher10000
@thrasher10000 3 ай бұрын
Mid engine is not exactly a conservative move
@robsmith1a
@robsmith1a 3 ай бұрын
I had the MK2 MR2 GT T-Bar in 1998, fabulous car. A few years later I had a Ferrari 328 GTS. The Ferrari was a dream for me but I don't think I enjoyed driving the MR2 any less and it was much easier to pile the miles on.
@DirectX3
@DirectX3 Ай бұрын
I modified my 92 MR2 from 2.0 to 2.2 big turbo it produces 320 hp on wheels 20 yrs ago. I still missed my baby today and always wondered who owns it now.
@barnestim
@barnestim 3 ай бұрын
Why didn't Toyota do it at the time?...The V6s they had at the time (lets say, around 1994/1995 for the mid-model refresh were just not as powerful as the turbo, would've been a lot hard to maintain (i.e. rear cylinder bank spark plugs). The Toyota 3.0 VZ V6 had around 140KW, the later 3.0 MZ had around 150KW and 283Nm The 3S-GTE at this time had 180KW and 304Nm. It wasn't until the later GR V6s were released that they were comparable (at least in power and torque)...but again, by this stage the 3S-GTE had also grown in power and torque
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting 2 ай бұрын
Weight was a big reason.
@Jettski
@Jettski 3 ай бұрын
I can't get over just how good this sounds!
@MattBeardless
@MattBeardless 3 ай бұрын
It has to be said, having had some dealings with V6 SW20 MR2s over the years, that is an exceptionally well done example of it.
@mndlessdrwer
@mndlessdrwer 3 ай бұрын
The MR2 can easily handle a naturally aspirated V6 in the 240-300HP range and the added low-end torque and broader torque curve will actually make it a lot easier to drive in certain cases since you aren't needing to shift as frequently to ensure that you're in the power band, since the power band is considerably wider with more displacement and more cylinders. So a corner you'd have to downshift for and risk breaking traction due to the downshift, you can take in the same gear and just power through. No need to 3-2-3 a corner when you've got enough torque to just leave it in third. You'd still need to downshift for hairpins, though.
@seanweirdbeard
@seanweirdbeard 3 ай бұрын
Sarah n Tuned has a lovely Turbo Resto.
@Dravensdmf
@Dravensdmf 3 ай бұрын
@@seanweirdbeard Mr Dos. An incredible example if an MR2 and Sarah us excellent. Great series to watch with that resto mr2
@ecyfoto
@ecyfoto 3 ай бұрын
Her ‘91 is way more enjoyable to look at. This one is fugly by comparison. Still an interesting (yet expensive) swap.
@schafer240
@schafer240 3 ай бұрын
Resto? You talking about "Sarah" or the mr2?
@jessecarpenter8760
@jessecarpenter8760 3 ай бұрын
Sara n tuned is a guy. Look at the knees and dude hands and hips. Bruce Jenner working on cars.
@redmr2na
@redmr2na 3 ай бұрын
Her car is a turbo NOW, but it wasn't originally a turbo.
@Ottobon
@Ottobon 3 ай бұрын
Oh nice, Jay found the coolest Toyota swap. 93+ models like that are trick because you can fix the twitchyness completely by lowering the rear end 1 inch, offset with tire sizes to level (if wanted) and bam, super stable, actually even driftable if desired MR2. FR style handling with rear end bite of MR. Was found out and thoroughly tested to multiple championship victories stateside in Solo ii/Autocross.
@Ottobon
@Ottobon 3 ай бұрын
@@paineu_9112 Look up XHEADs old posts on mr2oc, if the website is still around
@Ottobon
@Ottobon 3 ай бұрын
@@paineu_9112 I thought i responded but may have not properly. If you look up XHEAD's old posts on MR2OC then you can read about it, this is the best route if you can find all his old posts the guy was a legend beyond his pay grade. If you want to see the car he built (which was a AW11 that he shared slightly less info on, instead he prefered to give all his best info for a car he wasn't racing or competing with, the SW20) then look up Steve Hoelscher, #27 DP class He only desired to make faster cars, but byproduct of his advice was he made super easy to drive MR2s by just adjusting the issues with the rear end, front doesn't really need much touching, if any. Its all very simple stuff and if you follow swing-axle car development like old porsche/vw, or by contrast drift setups (not his intention but half related and half true) its all similar stuff, you just want a rear end that doesn't go crazy with camber angles. With the MR2s the inside tire going vastly positive camber is most the issue. Why it was setup like this goes down a long route but the simple answer was it was early tech era solution to ride quality vs lateral g, the latest model car i can think that suffers this issue is the S2000 but before that in the 80s it was dozens, from C4s to specific model RX7s to even Mustangs at one point, it just becomes even more a problem on MR, but not a irreconcilable one.
@jaydy71
@jaydy71 16 күн бұрын
The 2nd gen MR2 is still my favourite. A friend had a US import 2.2 130HP one with the targa roof a long time ago. I thought it was absolutely brilliant and it felt a lot quicker than the numbers would suggest. It might be just 130HP but that 2.2 engine had a lot of torque. My own car at the time was also 130HP and was almost 100kg lighter, but that MR2 just felt faster (even though in reality it was a toss-up between the 2). That MR2 was a rust bucket though and he sold it after a year or 2 trying to have that problem sorted but the rust monster kept coming back.
@michaelbishop888
@michaelbishop888 3 ай бұрын
Being pedantic - the t-bar panels don’t store in the boot. The gen2 SW20 was also available as a Spider, albeit in very very small numbers 😊
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 3 ай бұрын
That sound impressed me more than I thought it would. Cool little car. I wouldn’t mind having this or a souped up Miata. But I just look a bit dorky in smaller cars. I’m 6-2 so I always get bigger cars. Although I’m American. I’m not a truck guy. Nor do I care much for SUV’s. So that just leaves me with few options. American muscle cars or German muscle cars 😂. I have a couple Mercedes. Sadly I sold my AMG. So my E550 will have to keep me happy until my next AMG. Which it has 412hp, so it’s not too much of a slouch. And with AWD it’s almost as quick as my old AMG RWD to 60mph. But that MR-2 looks like fun. Cool video.
@izzy031096
@izzy031096 3 ай бұрын
Jesus loves you mate. Hell is real, you don’t want to end up there. Jesus gave the ultimate sacrifice, so that all we had to do was profess faith in him, and we would be saved from an eternity in hell. God bless you More to the point of your comment, I love my AMG’s as well, particularly the older stuff. I’ve currently got a C36 AMG, had an e55 w210 for awhile, I can’t get away from straight sixes though..
@sayerma
@sayerma 3 ай бұрын
Me too mate, for sure. Aussie car culture is good but you'll never see me in a pick-up or SUV or Ute. Current ride is BMW 335i sedan and next up will be a Merc 43 AMG ESTATE
@deanchur
@deanchur 3 ай бұрын
I'm 6'4" and daily a Fiesta; don't worry about how you look in a smaller car. If someone has a problem with it they're always welcome to buy you a car they'd like (and pay the running costs).
@2amSpeedMerchant
@2amSpeedMerchant 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to see jayemm do a Fifth Gear episode with Tiff Needell, Vikki Butler Henderson and Johnny Smith 😂❤
@maunsell24
@maunsell24 3 ай бұрын
I know the owner of this car. I've driven a couple of 2GR-FE powered Mk2 MR2s. The effortless torque from low revs is the big difference compared with the 3S-GTE in the turbo version. Plus that fabulous V6 sound track. :>)
@eoinmurphy2438
@eoinmurphy2438 19 күн бұрын
Ps love the channel jay. The best no B/S non biased reviews of a colourful mix of new and old. Keep up the good work
@clintmc8285
@clintmc8285 3 ай бұрын
I just dropped a fair bit converting my 1990 to a 3SGE BEAMS, I should have gone the V6 route. I love that sound of that V6. I could probably pull the BEAMS motor as this would go a long way to a V6 but i just want to get her back on the road, been a couple years and I miss driving her.
@andrewellis5092
@andrewellis5092 3 ай бұрын
Wow, that sounds amazing!! It’s not a conversion I even thought about before this video, but totally makes sense!! Brilliant.
@TnDAtkinson
@TnDAtkinson 3 ай бұрын
That V6 just sounds so good, and proper for that car.
@jamesrigby2271
@jamesrigby2271 3 ай бұрын
I had a grey import turbo tuned to the max. A complete handful, I couldn't keep it in a straight line and soon smashed it sideways into the arm rail doing over 120mph on a motorway (A9) near AMS Schiphol in the rain. Managed to bend every panel including the roof and chassis, without amazingly not breaking a single item of glass or light. Threw it in the bin and bought something more sensible.
@MichaelHanna-c5i
@MichaelHanna-c5i 3 ай бұрын
Lovely video! Your 'consumer advice' about the power steering pump is spot on - I've had to do it a few times over the years. I have the same Enkeis on my '91 Turbo, but ABS and A/C were options on my original one (which I ticked), and the Cruise was standard. I don't know why the UK market was treated so poorly. My second one, which I've had for 10 years, did not come with ABS. It's original owner was cheaper than I was I suppose. These days the stock Turbo MR2 is "just a car", but it's still a lovely place to be on a nice twisty road. I agree with you about the chassis. I'm not confident that my car (or myself) could handle 300hp in it, so I think I'll just keep it as it is. Thank you for another excellent video.
@phillipberk5767
@phillipberk5767 3 ай бұрын
Jay's videos have always been good, but your commentating style and "tone" recently have truly been great, It is A unique twist on the OG top gear review style with a bit more real-world down-to-earth car guy stuff. Loving the content Jay, Keep it up!
@Z-u-m-a
@Z-u-m-a 3 ай бұрын
I love cars like that. High mileage and cared for, and also a bit different. Nice one Nick.
@uptownsamcv
@uptownsamcv 3 ай бұрын
I believe the main reason Toyota didn't put a V6 in the 2nd generation MR2 was the fact that they only had iron block V6's while the 2nd gen MR2 was being developed and none of those V6's made more power than the 3SGTE. the all aluminum 1MZ-FE didn't make it into production until 93 when it was offered in the 93 Camry and ES300...
@Dankturboz
@Dankturboz 3 ай бұрын
Actually the turbo models can have both AC and cruise control. I own a very early Japanese market model with both. It even has fog lights that turn with the wheels like an old mercedes
@NightfallDrives
@NightfallDrives 3 ай бұрын
People pleasantly surprised by the sound need to check out some Lotus products 😉 really interesting prospect this one
@Str4ngerr
@Str4ngerr 2 ай бұрын
Haha I love the cruise control stalk! 2GR-FE already feels amazing in a RAV4, I can't imagine how much can improve a MR-2
@mickstereftb
@mickstereftb 3 ай бұрын
I always wanted to do this with my 3 previous Mister 2's. Never did though, could never afford the 4k, as it cost then, with Woodsport, 15 years ago, to do it.
@wrench8677
@wrench8677 3 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how much the price of work has risen. I was so close to getting the 3vz in mine, I saved up and then crashed it a few days before I was going to book the conversion. I later found out mine had been in a front end crash before and badly repaired causing it to spin under braking in a straight line 😢
@mickstereftb
@mickstereftb 3 ай бұрын
@@wrench8677 Most just spun if you gave it the beans around corners. 😁
@wrench8677
@wrench8677 3 ай бұрын
@@mickstereftb I used to love the way the back end kicked out and then wiggled back into line when you put your foot down on a slow 90 turn
@mickstereftb
@mickstereftb 3 ай бұрын
@@wrench8677 Me too until it one day it didn't wiggle as much as I needed it too and I slammed into a kerb. Thank god for eBay and a cheap new wheel. 😬
@zedfender9423
@zedfender9423 6 күн бұрын
Mk2 mr2 got a look of quality and looks like it will take a beating. I got a 2002 uk car and even though its not perfect underneath underneath the sills and punch welds are so good i worry jacking it up.. Mosr reliable car for its age by far
@jameshunterford4099
@jameshunterford4099 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact: If you tap your screen to fast forward just as the “Dodo Juice” part of the intro comes up, it takes you straight to the start of the video …
@jamesengland7461
@jamesengland7461 3 ай бұрын
Must not skip the awesome intro music!
@lorddoobsworth144
@lorddoobsworth144 3 ай бұрын
@@jamesengland7461 I do a little dance almost every time 🕺
@jameshunterford4099
@jameshunterford4099 3 ай бұрын
@@lorddoobsworth144 Listen to the music Jay used on the Countach video! It’s soooo good!
@jameshunterford4099
@jameshunterford4099 3 ай бұрын
@@jamesengland7461 😬
@Elansol
@Elansol 2 ай бұрын
I had a supercharged evora, to be fair I think the MR2 is more comfortable, more usable, more practical, and I prefer the 90's feedback and skittishness. I had to drive a Lotus to "get it" they are just amazing you have to drive one to understand how good they are, but for the money, MR2 every time. V6 every time, even the old 1MZs are still a hoot.
@AndrewDobie
@AndrewDobie 3 ай бұрын
This reminds me of my Rocketeer Mk1 Mx5 (which you'll be welcome to drive JayEmm!). It has cost me about the same money. Both are fairly unique, make a wonderful v6 noise and yes are not for everyone; no accountant in the world would sign off what ive spent on mine :D
@thomassmith3817
@thomassmith3817 3 ай бұрын
This is what people do when they A haven’t got a turbo and want it to be quick or B blew the 3SGTE up and can’t afford another
@kevinvanneste2500
@kevinvanneste2500 3 ай бұрын
Or want more sound
@davekennedy6315
@davekennedy6315 3 ай бұрын
Yup defo way, WAY better soundtrack, way more power, way more torque, way more driveability.
@dreaddarven
@dreaddarven 3 ай бұрын
Or want less moving parts = more reliability, Better throttle response, way better sound (imho), more "grown up" feel of the car etc
@davekennedy6315
@davekennedy6315 3 ай бұрын
This would drive SO much better than a turbo! You would have way more power and torque from 1000rpm all the way to its red line (at a guess 6000+rpm?) There would be zero lag and instant healthy throttle response from the larger capacity, a flat torque curve giving a much more enjoyable and easier to control all round driving experience. Old School turbos are not exactly smooth or controllable. If you fitted a bigger turbo to hit 350bhp like this the car would be a laggy turd with boost coming on late in the rev range and then only giving you 1500-2000rpm of pull? Shite. Even if the turbo had another 50bhp on this I guarantee THIS would easily run rings round it on the road or track!
@austinpaulmr2
@austinpaulmr2 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps. Although I had a perfectly fine 3SGTE and swapped in the 2GR. I did it because I track the car and I prefer the 2GR for that purpose.
@F1Guy-Guy
@F1Guy-Guy 3 ай бұрын
I bought a MR2 yesterday thanks to this video
@gothicpagan.666
@gothicpagan.666 3 ай бұрын
MR2 was the grown up X1/9. For a sports car what Jay has there is as perfect as anyone could reasonably expect, short of a Noble
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 ай бұрын
That's what the MR2 should have had. The MR2 is a great car and I'd like to own one with this swap. 😊
@SimonLloydGuitar
@SimonLloydGuitar 3 ай бұрын
One of the best cars i ever owned was an MR2 turbo back in the 90s. So underrated but a fantastic car. With just a few tweaks 280hp was very easy to obtain...I had it for a few years...then it got stolen.
@jacobhelm7779
@jacobhelm7779 3 ай бұрын
The 2gr completes the car imo. Give the looks the sound to complement. Once I have the money I’ll be doing this to my SW20.
@mrt2760
@mrt2760 3 ай бұрын
Had an MR2 Turbo/GTS around 1999, brilliant car. Head gasket blew which I think is common on these due to engine location and airflow.
@teckniec2
@teckniec2 3 ай бұрын
One of my dream cars is an AW11 MR2. This one is really clean though.
@chrisdavidson911
@chrisdavidson911 3 ай бұрын
"Picking your line without leaving your side of the road" - i, for one, regard this as not cheating! My imaginary tenner is going on Toyota knew they could do it, thought about it, and decided it wasn't allowed to be faster than a Supra. In exactly the way that someone at Lotus said the Esprit's V8 would fit in an Elise but they weren't going to do it.
@LukeAnthony-v3r
@LukeAnthony-v3r 3 ай бұрын
lets not forget that the 2gr didn't exist until well after the mk2 mr2 finished production
@papapetad
@papapetad 3 ай бұрын
Like the bmw 1m not being delivered with the V8...coz y'know...M3 sales.
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius 3 ай бұрын
.. and when they eventually put another engine to the MR2 (V8), it turned into a unicorn Le Mans homologation car called the SARD MC8. The race version may not be successful, but the road version? That thing just oozes cool all over.
@chrisdavidson911
@chrisdavidson911 3 ай бұрын
@@LukeAnthony-v3ri hadn’t actually checked anything like that 😂
@lazarushernandez5827
@lazarushernandez5827 3 ай бұрын
That is it, another car in the lineup limiting the potential. Imagine if the Boxster/Cayman wasn't restricted by the 911, or if you could get a BRZ from factory with a turbocharged WRX engine, or a limited edition MX-5 Miata with a Rotary from an RX-7/RX-8...
@davieboywassup
@davieboywassup 3 ай бұрын
That just might be my favourite car so far. It sounds great, is plenty quick and an evora looks half as good.
@hamzawerks
@hamzawerks Ай бұрын
the 2gr is such a good sounding engine. the best sounding v6. sounds similar to a gt3 flat 6
@chadbauer8990
@chadbauer8990 3 ай бұрын
I have an Estima with this engine and it is actually bloody fast. So 500 Kg less weight give or take can only yield a stupendous result.!
@JACKKO25
@JACKKO25 3 ай бұрын
Oh gosh...the sound is so majestic! It does impact the character of the car, with a 50-kilo lighter weight compared to the 3SGTE and an improvement in weight balance. Another car worth comparing to the Toyota MR2 2GR is the Porshe Cayman 981 (the NA flat 6). I think the most essential point that you brought up is whether is it still worth it to swap the MR2 with 2GR from the ground up,or should you just buy the Lotus Evora or the Cayman 981 straight away?
@alouiciousjackson5812
@alouiciousjackson5812 3 ай бұрын
The idea is cool and a good option if you can't get a turbo. I had a '93 turbo for 10 years with lots of upgrades and for me, that's the best option if you can find it.
@SillyPuddy2012
@SillyPuddy2012 3 ай бұрын
Good timing with Number 27’s review of a Gen 2 MR2.
@oukie666
@oukie666 3 ай бұрын
Just a correction, the Rev3 did have traction control and ABS in the UK as an option, back in the 90's I had a Rev 3 UK car which had both, it had every option available in the UK when it was new £25k if I remember correctly, if you looked under the bonnet the unit had plethora of pipes, something thats not even there on the non traction control/ABS cars, I believe the Rev4 got these as standard.
@RobertNES816
@RobertNES816 3 ай бұрын
That is the right sound for the MR2! Most definitely should've come with a V6!
@universalclassiccars
@universalclassiccars 3 ай бұрын
You have to admire the passion to place money into a guaranteed no return, but listening to it is enough, what is fantastic noise, smiles per gallon or smile per Roi 😬
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 3 ай бұрын
Love the driving tip!
@cdlelondon
@cdlelondon 3 ай бұрын
The MRT GT T bar is the only car I've ever bought new twice, I absolutely loved both of mine and I soooooo want to get another one when I've got 12k 🙏🙏🙏
@florider_hd
@florider_hd 3 ай бұрын
it just sounds so good
@jamesonslow
@jamesonslow 3 ай бұрын
Ooh. An owner after my own heart. As much as it makes no financial sense, I still aim to Rocketeer swap my Mk1 MX-5. 🙂
@20vtechnik
@20vtechnik 3 ай бұрын
We have had a few toyotas in the past and they have been.....well, boring and short lived (mainly due to rust and rot). Shockingly our older Audis have far surpased them in terms of lifespan, mileage, age and obviously spirited driving. A decade or so ago i was able to drive a couple mr2s and it was fun. Underpowered but fun. Truthfully, It made me appreciate the mazda miata a bit more... However, with this hp output, this mr2 would no doubt be a blast to drive! Thanks for sharing!
@rickybanzai2199
@rickybanzai2199 3 ай бұрын
Sounds GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Joakim-j7h
@Joakim-j7h 3 ай бұрын
A Japanese ''Rotus''! Awesome!
@CHUNGHO3
@CHUNGHO3 3 ай бұрын
Sounds phenomenal and i love the intro! Thanks!
@stevegee6529
@stevegee6529 3 ай бұрын
Perfect amount power, set the suspension up and it will be a cracking car. I think 30k is a great price if it's set up right
@johancoetzer2165
@johancoetzer2165 3 ай бұрын
As a former RX350 owner, I am astounded about how good this engine can sound!
@hell_tiger7163
@hell_tiger7163 3 ай бұрын
If the owner also finds the clutch to be a bit heavy on the foot, he might want to swap to a turbo clutch pedal assembly. It has a spring assembly to assist with a heavier clutch. I have a exedy stage 1 in my 3sgte swapped celica (no helper springs) and a stage 2 in my 1994 jdm mr2 turbo. The mr2's pedal is so much lighter i almost thought it wasn't engaging the clutch!
@oggie1967
@oggie1967 3 ай бұрын
Oh James, loving the howl of that V6! Wouldn't mind an MR2 like that for the weekends. Thanks for sharing!👍👏👏👏♥️
@GTFour
@GTFour 3 ай бұрын
The reason; The engine didn’t exist then. SW20 (MK2 MR2) built 1989-1999. 2GR engine; 2002-present. V6 of the time would’ve been the very anaemic 1988-2004 2VZ-FE , but with max 190hp from factory not sure would be worth them bothering. The 1993-2014 MZ series of 194bhp would’ve overlapped production, but again; is it worth it when the 3SGTE made more bhp with less weight and is far far more easily tuneable?
@lqr824
@lqr824 3 ай бұрын
Interesting that the stock model had an iron block. So did the famous 4th-generation Supra. The current 5th-gen Supra is the same displacement yet 100lb/45kg lighter. Nominally the power was 330PS vs. 370PS but in fact either engine will make whatever power level you wish. I gather the old iron block is more reliable over 1000hp though, and apparently good for 2000.
@AndyfromSurrey
@AndyfromSurrey 3 ай бұрын
Lovely looking car. Love how owner has kept it looking pretty stock. If you said it left the factory looking like that with that engine I would have believed you, nice job 👍🏻
@X774M
@X774M 3 ай бұрын
I remember when I was 17 passed my driving test and I was looking into doing one of these conversions but i ended up buying an mx5 nb a year later. Maybe one day I'll actually buy one after the many e36 projects I want to build
@dh1380
@dh1380 3 ай бұрын
I had an imported Gen 3 Mk 2 MR2 when i was 17. Blew it up on the A31 to Winchester. 😅 Big pop, lots of oil and smoke. Somebody called the fire brigade 😅😅😅 Actually quite glad the engine was behind me tbh. This car is lovely but I feel like these cars should be force-inducted. It just seems to fit the character of the car more somehow but this is really quite lovely all the same and in all fairness probably completely awesome.
@SimonLloydGuitar
@SimonLloydGuitar 3 ай бұрын
I had a turbo and it was brilliant. I spun it on a dual carriageway roundabout in the wet, rotating between trees to end up on the opposite of the duel carriageway...luckily i missed every tree, a road sign and it was the early hours of the morning so no oncoming traffic...scary but funny.
@BeckieBlanchette
@BeckieBlanchette 3 ай бұрын
tunedbyai AI fixes this. Toyota's 320HP V6 MR2 Driven.
@royferntorp
@royferntorp 3 ай бұрын
Mister Two had a way of teaching one a different driving style. Oversteer was fun. As it was in the Dino or that Lancia monster.
@exc911ence_channel
@exc911ence_channel 3 ай бұрын
It's a labour of love. You can't put a price on that.
3 ай бұрын
Maybe should have paid for some spelling lessons.
@exc911ence_channel
@exc911ence_channel 3 ай бұрын
Look everyone, an American is here!
@meekrab9027
@meekrab9027 3 ай бұрын
TRD also sells a supercharger that bolts right on ... 400+ whp in an MR2 will surprise even modern sports cars
@garethjohnstone9282
@garethjohnstone9282 3 ай бұрын
The Mister Two is still a fantastic looking car.
@seinsmeld13
@seinsmeld13 3 ай бұрын
I almost bought a 1985 MR2 here in Canada. I didn't because the ex couldn't drive a standard. Therefore I bought a GTS which was a great car.
@ODGreenZa
@ODGreenZa 3 ай бұрын
Love the sound nice build. call me crazy but i still love the 3-SGTE
@Nico_lente
@Nico_lente 3 ай бұрын
Great video of such a great car
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