Success to Failure? - The Toyota MR2 Story

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@catriona_drummond
@catriona_drummond Жыл бұрын
This car was so famous that it actually made it beyond the iron curtain and into the official magazine of the East German youth organization, the Pioneers. The "Trommel" aka "the drum" had a picture and a description of it in a small article. The space war otherwise reserves for legends like a Romanian jeep or the Wartburg Pickup. I have a vague feeling that the cut out article is still somewhere in my household... Oh, but where?
@barrett993
@barrett993 11 ай бұрын
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@nickadams2451
@nickadams2451 10 ай бұрын
Would be great to see it. I always wondered if it made it there.
@MisterLumpkin
@MisterLumpkin Жыл бұрын
Bought a 2003 MR2 Spyder 5 speed new. It's still in the garage 20 years later and is still a blast to drive.
@adonian
@adonian 11 ай бұрын
NEVER sell it. I had an 86, and I still miss her to this day 😢.
@glitch314
@glitch314 Жыл бұрын
the only car I cried when I sold it... MkII NA ... I was in love with the hump in the middle, the gearstick was so accessible and the car was just so responsive, it felt like an extension of my body when pushed to limits. I still remember staring at it in admiration before getting in every morning on the way to work, not easy to keep the passion for a daily driver car after several years of owning it . I still dearly miss mine :) thanks a lot for the work put in this video. I hope mine is in good hands and still running, which I'm pretty sure it still is.... :)
@jesuscruz2068
@jesuscruz2068 10 ай бұрын
you shouldve driven an aw11 it is way better as far as feel and transmission and responsiveness the only benefit of the sw20 is if its turbo'd but NA the aw11 takes the cake
@iadd2568
@iadd2568 15 күн бұрын
@@jesuscruz2068 the trans on an aw11 is alot crunchier
@johnr5252
@johnr5252 Жыл бұрын
I loved my 85 MR2. Very quick and a blast to drive. Handled like a go cart.
@derekholmes4792
@derekholmes4792 7 ай бұрын
My 87 scared the hell out of me. Crashed 4 2nd gens. After I sent 1st gen off Cliff with my date
@sigmamale4147
@sigmamale4147 3 ай бұрын
@@derekholmes4792 4 2nd gens ??? When do you ask yourself if you should stop
@scottthomas8136
@scottthomas8136 Жыл бұрын
I owned three MR2’s. I had a 1986, a 1989 supercharged, and a 1991 second generation. I loved them all and had so much fun with them. I’m 6’-6" tall so I used to get teased about fitting in them. But it was worth it.
@TheGoose98
@TheGoose98 2 ай бұрын
So, how did you fit in your mk1 / AW11 MR2? I'm currently on the lookout for one but I'm a (relatively skinny) tall guy (6'5") as well. They claimed that it should accomodate taller people fairly well. What's your experience?
@tomb9818
@tomb9818 Ай бұрын
@@TheGoose98 You would definitely want a hardtop or a t top for maximum headroom. my head is a couple inches off the roof in my sunroof aw11 and i'm only 5'9"
@MissionForward3
@MissionForward3 3 күн бұрын
I had a white 1986 that I bought on Guam while in the Navy. Paid $12K for it brand new and no sales tax on Guam. Years later, I located a low mileage 1989....red, black leather, T-bar....but not supercharged. Nonetheless, both cars were wildly fun although not fast or powerful. That little AW-11 growling over my shoulder always made me laugh.
@lisa.mirrayy
@lisa.mirrayy Жыл бұрын
The rise and fall of the Toyota MR2 is a story worth listening to.
@bwarey52
@bwarey52 Жыл бұрын
Could be a similar story for Toyota as a brand if they don't start taking EV"s seriously
@JK061996
@JK061996 Жыл бұрын
lisa_mirrayy what an original and insightful comment, it's almost as if a bot took the title of the video and rearranged it a bit
@mindblast3901
@mindblast3901 Жыл бұрын
@@bwarey52 who would
@RoadsterAlex
@RoadsterAlex Жыл бұрын
Based on their opinion yes
@tim3172
@tim3172 Жыл бұрын
@@mindblast3901 Anyone with net-positive brain cells unlike yourself.
@BOABModels
@BOABModels Жыл бұрын
The headteacher at my primary school had a red second gen MR2 in the '90s. It was totally the coolest car I had ever seen. So many of the children thought it was a Ferrari - I knew my car badges though so recognised it as a Toyota. A very cool Toyota though.
@Elenrai
@Elenrai Жыл бұрын
The fact Toyota got confused with Ferrari in the 90s by school kids....fuuuuuuuck......like....I know the US aint exactly a nation of freedom even if the population display amusing cognitive dissonance on the subject with 18th century humanist thought like a buncha barbarians, but even then...come the fuck on that is just emberassing!
@DrWhom
@DrWhom Жыл бұрын
Toyota was marketed without any kind of logo or emblem for most of my youth, so I must be older than you. It basically was just TOYOTA in what looked like Helvetica all caps.
@BrianWinstanley-lv7gw
@BrianWinstanley-lv7gw Жыл бұрын
Poor man’s Ferrari! I have one ❤
@BOABModels
@BOABModels Жыл бұрын
​@@DrWhom maybe! It was the '90s and I'm sure it had the oval badge on the front or the back or both. I went to a small village school and there was nothing on the road quite like it.
@philipjamesparsons
@philipjamesparsons Жыл бұрын
I admired all three generations in different ways for 25 years. Just a couple of months ago I got round to buying a MK3, in great shape. I am 6ft3" and fit just fine. It drives well and is everything I hoped it would be. Sales volume is not a great measure of a car; unless you are an accountant.
@cyberyoyo7674
@cyberyoyo7674 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I love these videos but the obsession with sales is quite odd. I had a Mk3 roadster in the UK and have subsequently had 4 MX-5’s. Loved every one of the latter, but I’m afraid none of them could touch the way the MR2 went around corners. Just zero understeer at non-silly speeds. I would have another in a heartbeat but for their reputation for eating their catalysts, which seems to have left a miniscule number on the road, here in the UK at least.
@avancalledrupert5130
@avancalledrupert5130 Жыл бұрын
Well that's that I'm buying one.. I'm 6.2 and an mx5 is to small.
@arlenburgin2392
@arlenburgin2392 Жыл бұрын
I got one. U need one
@660einzylinder
@660einzylinder Жыл бұрын
My lasting memory of the Mk1 was the incredible gear shift. The lever felt to be little more than the knob, the shift was so light it felt as though there was nothing attached to that knob and yet it all worked perfectly as a gear shift. I really wanted an MR2, but sadly sensible, practical motoring was the requirement of the day, so it never happened. Now, I can't remember when I last saw one.
@gavinvalentino6002
@gavinvalentino6002 Жыл бұрын
That knob was a leather bananashaped d¡1do. Dead serious my senior highschool girlfriend would shift all the way to & from school every day while I was driving. She loved it. And yes, twice, she really, really loved it. It unscrewed from the base with counterclockwise turns.
@aogfx13
@aogfx13 Жыл бұрын
I owned the Spyder when it was new, I absoloutely loved it, I wish I kept it. Very much an under-rated car. I now have two MR2 SW20s, both look and drive awesome, but they are now 30 years old and they need extra care and $$$s to keep them going. All 3 models were success in my eyes.
@Flint_Westwood
@Flint_Westwood Жыл бұрын
I had a 2nd gen MR2 (SW20) in the early 2000's. Mine was a grey import in black with an Autopista body kit fitted. I'd come from an Alfa 155 V6. At first I thought the engine felt a bit flat at low RPMs but when you opened the taps, that twin cam was a gem. Great video 👍
@Roger-my5in
@Roger-my5in Жыл бұрын
And now I suddenly miss my SW20. Hands down the best car I ever had. Never sure if it was going to kill me without notice but it taught me the difference between my limits and what it’s limits were real quick
@peterdevreter
@peterdevreter Жыл бұрын
The second gen pre facelift turbo was very cool and tried to kill you with snap oversteer. Friend of mine had a pre facelift turbo back in 2002, and yes he hit a fence some bushes and a curb. Total write off, and he was uninjured. I had the non turbo face lift (with the newer style rear lights) and that was way more neutral to drive. It actually asked very friendly if it was allowed to kill me with squeaky tires noise in higher speed corners. Back off on the throttle and it became normal to drive again. That pre gen turbo DID NOT do that. Fun cars to own and drive!
@Roger-my5in
@Roger-my5in Жыл бұрын
@@peterdevreter 91 NA 5MT # 8XX of 15k brought to North America from 91-95. The Gen 2.5 had a lot of improvements incorporated that the Gen 2.0 made noticeable. Stiffer bracing, LSD and better adjusted dampeners. I put over 60k on the ODO in just over 2 years driving it everywhere and pushing it to its limits. The margin for error on the first 3 years was paper thin. Upside is when I sold it it was still mostly stock and had a new engine in it for the next owner to enjoy. Downside is I sold it because it’s frowned upon suggesting putting the kids in the trunk or frunk to do family things. PS: 91-95 was gear limited, both NA and Turbo. Top speed NA 141 @ redline in 5th. Top speed Turbo 170+ @ 7500, figuring 170 because the trip ODO button stopped the needle where 170 would have been on the speedo…🤷😂😂😂
@Abszurdista-fatalista
@Abszurdista-fatalista Жыл бұрын
I had a gen2 N/A 2.0. I didn't like it. That's the best I can say. Fast looking but actually slow and weak. Too much of a discrepancy. ❗
@tramlink8544
@tramlink8544 Жыл бұрын
i love my AW11 and id never give it up!
@mog398
@mog398 Жыл бұрын
I have a mk3 MR2, daily drove it for 2 years and put about 25'000 miles on it. In the context of what it was competing with (MG TF, mk2 MX5, etc.) it really does feel just that little bit better as a driver's car. Having said that, I just finished swapping in the 2ZZ-GE engine from the Celica, and it adds that little extra something to the car that makes it truly special. Hard to believe Toyota didn't at least offer it as an option!
@paulsz6194
@paulsz6194 Жыл бұрын
Great video. The front end of third-gen MR2 looks like it was inspired by the first-gen Porsche Boxster, especially when looking at it at 23:56.
@Ametisti
@Ametisti Жыл бұрын
I've always loved the mk3's styling. It looks so cute, like a baby ferrari or cayman. at least at the front.
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 Жыл бұрын
In case you're wondering about the whole "4 valves become 2" comment, it's referencing the Toyota Variable Induction System (T-VIS) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-VIS Erratum: The mk1 MR2 also had the radiator up front.
@ThePerpDerp
@ThePerpDerp Жыл бұрын
The T-VIS system is all in the intake manifold. It does not alter anything with respect to how the intake/exhaust valves operate in the cylinder head. What it does is change the intake manifold geometry based on engine speed.
@andy2906
@andy2906 Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering why at 5'11" you were not able to successfully adjust the seat and steering wheel. It's factually a bigger cabin than the mx5
@Legotruck82
@Legotruck82 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePerpDerp yep, nailed it. Had a Mk1b for 15 years. They have butterflies in the 8 intake runners that actuate at around 4400rpm. Nothing to do with the valves
@yuuji_
@yuuji_ Жыл бұрын
Like the others said, that's not how T-VIS works (i would know, i have an 85 ae82 fx-16 gts). I'd also like to point out that the picture you used to show the 4a engine is indeed a 4a engine, but you speak of the 4a-ge variant, which looks nothing like a standard 4a, because as you said it it's DOHC (it was indeed the 4a-ge which was put in the mr2, like the gt-s trims of the ae86/ae82). Edit : the dials are proper to the mr2, although they resemblance a mix of ae82/ae86. The mechanism behind is very similar, but some resistors values are different, because of the rpm range) 2nd Edit : the 1zz GE would be the successor to the mr2 aw11, because it's engine was the 4A-GE, not just the 4a. GE was the high performance engine head denomination at Toyota. Sadly that mr2 never got it.
@spinnetti
@spinnetti Жыл бұрын
TVI-s did almost nothing. It was supposed to improve torque down low, by shutting off one port per cyl up to 4500 rpm or so but did very little in reality. I ran with and without it and couldn't tell any difference in drivability or top performance. I even tried removing, but putting in restrictors in one port on each cyl to get the intake velocity up - the early "big port" engines seemingly ripped off Cosworth, and the later engines with smaller ports had 130hp (like in the Geo Prisim GSI) vs the 112 in the MR2.
@julianb1474
@julianb1474 Жыл бұрын
I bought a first gen MR2 in 1985 that was part of the first shipment into Canada. The only cross shopping I did was against the 1st gen Fiero which for me was a big disappointment. I seem to remember $14k Can price. Paint, fit and finish were wonderful. None of your pics showed the manual shifter - a hit with the ladies! The problem was the treacherous handling in that first year. Hit an entry ramp at speed and some road imperfection would unsettle the rear end and before you knew you knew it you were backwards. Never before or since have I spun out on a public road. It was just too twitchy for the street. Sold in '87 for a Supra.
@arlenburgin2392
@arlenburgin2392 Жыл бұрын
I have an 03 Spyder. Best car I have or may ever own. So much fun and turns so many heads! Not to mention gas mileage and ease of top dropping
@TheWickedgit
@TheWickedgit 2 ай бұрын
Of all the cars I've had over 40 plus years, it is only my 16v GTi T-bar MkII MR2 that I still miss and would have back in a heartbeat if I could. Those cars are pure joy on wheels.
@terryjacob8169
@terryjacob8169 Жыл бұрын
Had two Mk.1 MR2s in the late 1980's. Both brilliant cars. The 1.6litre 4-AGE engine was a little gem, mated to a gearbox with the best linkage I've experienced outside of a single-seater racecar with a Hewland gearbox. Super handling/roadholding. The Mk.2s had more power but lacked the Mk.1s brilliant balance. As for the Mk.3.............
@josephsanders8921
@josephsanders8921 Жыл бұрын
My first car was an 1st gen Mr2 in 2003. Still have it, but it's been stored away for when I can properly bring it back to life. The only other car i've owned that gave the same driving feel as the mr2 was my 2013 Scion Frs.
@Swat_Dennis
@Swat_Dennis Жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this one, thanks!
@LearnAboutFlow
@LearnAboutFlow Жыл бұрын
When I think MR2, I ONLY think of the first generation. Simply incredible and definitely a dream car for me. And despite its 'dry weather' looks (and due to its mid-engine layout) it's quite amazing in the snow as a guy I worked with when I was an intern had one and we went to the ski slopes with it. Handled better than a FWD car, if not an AWD one.
@SpacehotelMusic
@SpacehotelMusic 8 ай бұрын
Drove mine 20 miles to work back in the 2000s in snow and it was fine, better than me ex FE/RWD cars, mine's a super charger 1988 (well I've had 3 so it was a different one at the time) but never let me down driving wise even at 'exciting' speeds. And yes, to me Mk1 mr2 *IS* the MR2... the others just weren't as good all round, mk2 got bloated and aside from the rear lid/window looked like a ford probe, the mk3 went soft top without boot and frog like.. obviously they are still both great cars but the Mk1 was perfect with the best looks (not 'prettiest' or smoothest like MK2 might claim to be but just the BEST and most suitable looks for what it was)
@kenbaudoux464
@kenbaudoux464 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT coverage
@Jack-lo1uc
@Jack-lo1uc Жыл бұрын
Love this channel, keep them coming my friend! ❤❤
@Simmo_Cars
@Simmo_Cars Жыл бұрын
These videos are just brilliant keep it up 👍
@rwdplz1
@rwdplz1 Жыл бұрын
The MR2 was on my short list when I was a kid, but there were none for sale around me, ended up buying a red Fiero when I was 19. A guy I went to college with had a red MR2, we'd park by each other occasionally.
@Andy-From-England
@Andy-From-England Жыл бұрын
Great video mate
@hynestimothy411
@hynestimothy411 Жыл бұрын
Your attention to details is priceless
@BEATNIKMACHINE
@BEATNIKMACHINE Жыл бұрын
Been Waiting for an MR2 Video forever, Nice one BIG CAR ! Love you man !
@snap_oversteer
@snap_oversteer Жыл бұрын
Yes! Finaly video on the MR2
@lrcmr2s
@lrcmr2s 3 ай бұрын
The mk3 is so underrated. I absolutely hated the design when it came out, but 20 years later.. I now proudly own one. Super fun car that handles like a go kart, and absolutely love the frog face look. Its aged well to me and actually looking better as time goes on. Always get asked what it is as well. People think its some kind of Porsche or something. 😂
@TheLifeEvents
@TheLifeEvents Жыл бұрын
Great channel as usual. In the late 70s I had minis, and finally a 1275GT. It fell apart after 2 years! So I got a Toyota Starlet in 1980, £3,200 brand new. Never looked back. Followed by a Corolla SR5, and many other models over 40 years. My Camry Mk IV was superb, I ordered direct from Japan, through Toyota Ireland. I now have one of the last manufactured top-of-the-range Avensis. The MR2 I liked the Mk2+ @ 21:19
@janejones215
@janejones215 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for telling the story so well. I had a full spec, brand new, bright red MR2 as a company car in 1988 and I absolutely loved it! Fast, nimble and perfect for two. In the days before speed cameras and speed humps, it was a joy to drive around the lanes of Surrey and Sussex. Happy days!
@quantumleap359
@quantumleap359 Жыл бұрын
A boss of mine had an 86 MR2. White, it was a fun car to drive. Perfect balance, superb shifter, cornered like a go kart! I believe Toyota had a winner. Very impractical, but just a blast!
@waynemorris8388
@waynemorris8388 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a brilliant video again
@jeffthompson9622
@jeffthompson9622 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this history of a very interesting car/s.
@GodSpeed3
@GodSpeed3 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review sir.
@RedMR2W3
@RedMR2W3 Жыл бұрын
Nice! Thank you for this Story!
@kjelll98
@kjelll98 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for years for you to make this!!! So cool :)
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@bikesbabes4721
@bikesbabes4721 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant video.
@SamFirthDesigner
@SamFirthDesigner Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah been waiting for this, man!
@phoenixmistertwo8815
@phoenixmistertwo8815 Жыл бұрын
I am still happy with my 3 Mr2s, one original SC 1988, another a transplant GZE 1988, and lastly, my 1991 Mr2 Turbo. One thing about this cool collection Ive had for decades as my dailys, is the required and ongoing maintenance to keep them running since, leaving them sit too long starts to develop issues such as rusty fuel tanks and parts availability. Luckily there is still a large following in the world and the internet has brought us all together to trade and sell parts to keep them all alive. Documentaries such as these, help out the Mr2 community for sure, so, thanks.
@FFlyDDrum1
@FFlyDDrum1 Жыл бұрын
I learned a lot here. Thanks
@67tomcat
@67tomcat Жыл бұрын
The 2-tone 1st generation MR2 is amazingly cool! Great presentation- thank you!
@yaroslavburmaka1449
@yaroslavburmaka1449 Жыл бұрын
Great Content!
@markauckland666
@markauckland666 Жыл бұрын
i have had every generation of the mr2, starting 25 years ago, i currently have a gen 3 and although its almost a forgotten car, and becoming rarer to see on uk roads these days, it probably the best of the bunch whilst ironically being the cheapest one to buy, i suggest anyone to try one, its a better car then you think i promise ...
@warrenny
@warrenny Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@lianalonge1984
@lianalonge1984 Жыл бұрын
What a FANTASTIC video‼️👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 I had a 2002 Toyota MR2 Spyder in yellow and LOVED it. I received loads of compliments. 🥰 Previously I had a 1993 Honda Civic Del Sol and loved it as well. ❤
@sqd8r
@sqd8r Жыл бұрын
Absolute LEGEND.
@paulshanesmith
@paulshanesmith 10 ай бұрын
I bought my 1990 registered MK1 in 94.. it still makes me smile driving it and in nearly 30 years of ownership, apart from several batteries, the only repair has been 1 alternator.
@oldmercedesdiesel
@oldmercedesdiesel 9 ай бұрын
Great video. I love my 88 supercharged! Bought it four years ago after it had been sitting in a garage on flats not run for over a decade. Took almost nothing to get it back to its fullest. Great driving car, and gets a crazy amount of thumbs ups out the passersby’s windows.
@SkYsLiDeR9000
@SkYsLiDeR9000 10 ай бұрын
I had a mk2 n/a. It had a secret. It used to take off at about 4k rpm. The secret was that it would do it again at a bit higher rpm. They also had a tendency to try to reverse into lamp posts. I miss my Mr2.
@SpacehotelMusic
@SpacehotelMusic 8 ай бұрын
Had 3 MK1 MR2s, all dark blue, all 88 or 89, all super-charger JDM import (or conversion of UK NA using the kit from my previous ones). Had my first in 2001 and still got one 22 years later with bits on from that first car and it has always been the most perfect-to-price ratio car for me, that I've driven or owned from the perspective of handling to practicality to reliability to FUN! Had a ton of other cars over the years, much newer, more tech, more refinement... though my SC's were/are modded so nearer 200bhp and 0-60 in sub 6 seconds, even when stock it shifted from launch extremely well vs the N/As and kept up with or even held off much bigger cars (upto around 70/80mph on 'normal' roads). But it wasn't about just the speed or traction it can put down, it's the feel, the layout, the raw-but-not-too-raw (i.e lotus elise) perfect balance and the bold looks and, now, rarity that gives the MK1 its special status. Mk2 and Mk3 never really interested me as both lost something vs the Mk1 even as they 'improved' in some areas, I'm not a fan of soft tops but a kitted hard topped MK3 can look (and drive) nice, but the lights and lack of boot and slightly mis-marketed profile means I never fully desired one. Mk2 is now more dated looking than Mk1 to me, and the side profile has less magic, only the rear deck and curved rear window save it from looking like a cross between a celica and ford probe.. as it comes from the era of more 90s homogeny and 'softening' to be more like a larger, normal car but with pop up headlights, which the MK1 could never be mistaken as! :)
@demokid2000
@demokid2000 Жыл бұрын
As usual great fun informative video. Keep e'm coming :D
@adventure_F0x
@adventure_F0x 11 ай бұрын
My whole life my grandad had one parked up in the car port largely hidden by empty boxes. I only ever really saw the rear of this red 1987 example and damn it I was determined I was gonna get it one day. He’d bought it in 1999 and parked it up. A couple of months later. Last year he finally gave it to me to get back on the road. It was in pretty good condition with only 78k on the clock and an immaculate interior with seats that had spent their whole life with protective covers on them. It’s now sat on my driveway. Absolutely love it. I had to wait 23 years but it was worth it
@rokisowski123po2
@rokisowski123po2 Жыл бұрын
Super film 👍👍👍. Pozdrawiam Robert ze Szczecina
@Akshaysingh0016
@Akshaysingh0016 5 ай бұрын
Superb video ❤. That's my favourite car
@Goldie644
@Goldie644 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the MK 3 would have sold better if it had an option for the more powerful 2ZZ-GE engine seen in the Celica 190. Having experienced one with such an engine swap go flying past my standard Mk1 at a trackday at Oulton Park last year it would have given a real boost to its performance !
@RetroMotiveAdventures
@RetroMotiveAdventures Жыл бұрын
From what I've been told there was an agreement with lotus at the time that Toyota wouldn't put the 2ZZ in the MR2....
@RoadsterAlex
@RoadsterAlex Жыл бұрын
2zz mk3 is still slow, lift is pretty unusable most of the time
@Ottobon
@Ottobon Жыл бұрын
I think it would of sold better but especially at the time it looked even more bizarre then it does now. We can look back on its froggy styling now and maybe it will get a smile out of us, but back then it REALLY just looked bad. I think the one single thing thats helped its reputation as silly as it sounds was Hot Motorings runs with Techno Pro Spirit's MR-S. Sure plenty of MR-S have been entered in various forms of racing and surely some have won many times, but having some celebrity racing drivers, and the whole rollercoaster story of that specific car and the legend it eventually became gave people something to respect.
@RideMelburn
@RideMelburn Жыл бұрын
I had a 2001 3rd gen for my second car. Australian models only came with the more fragile SMG but they did get the LSD as standard. It was a hell of a lot of fun but really let down but the engine. That 1ZZ engine turned out to produce the odd lemon. Mine being one of them. It was out of warranty but Toyota rebuilt the engine. I really wish it had have had the 2ZZ and I think it was a tragedy it never had it. I needed something more practical and reliable and traded it in for the 2005 2ZZ fitted Corolla. The Corolla handled terrible in comparison but once I returned the suspension and stiffened the chassis a little, I found it to be as much or more fun than the MR-2.
@JamesPickett1977
@JamesPickett1977 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 1987 MK1 in red in 1998 after university. It had 105k miles on it but was utterly pristine. It was quite the upgrade from my 1983 mini that was losing its battle with rust. 5 years of fun with no real problems.
@DManBearCub
@DManBearCub Жыл бұрын
Love my Mk1. Would love to have driven it more than twice before HG went ($700 in 2018 so I think I still did alright,) but man is that an amazing car. After a bit of fiddling found out that motor was toast. Now that my m35a2 is nearly finished, I can finally get around to the rebuild of my original project car. Great video.
@Scottiedowawa
@Scottiedowawa Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comprehensive vid! The 2nd has always been a dream car of mine... I owned the MR-S for a year, but it just didn't hit the spot with me.
@autochatter
@autochatter Жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@stephendibari5010
@stephendibari5010 Жыл бұрын
I owned and bought the same one in red at the 8:43 mark. 1986 5 speed manual. Price was about $15k if remember correctly. Paid it off in 4 years and kept it for 7 years, sold it with 73k miles. Never had to change the brake pads nor rotor’s because I always Engine braked. probably wasn’t the best on the engine. Changed the oil every 3k miles, filters, spark plugs and 2 or 3 sets of tires. That was it. No problems at all. Longest drive was a round trip from NYC to Montreal. Never missed a beat. Would love to have it back for sure. My first manual car and it was a blast to drive !!!
@theknifedude1881
@theknifedude1881 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy your channel enough that I guess I’m going to have to support you on Patreon. Love 💕 it!
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 Жыл бұрын
What a guy!
@vhhawk
@vhhawk Жыл бұрын
3:45 Total aside, but the Triumph TR-7 marketing ("The shape of things to come") hooked me for decades. It was brilliant marketing.
@davidcleverley4700
@davidcleverley4700 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel. He’s brilliant.
@chrisbamber5665
@chrisbamber5665 Жыл бұрын
great video. The only thing missing now is for you to do one on my other childhood fav the X19!
@T.E.S.S.
@T.E.S.S. Жыл бұрын
Oh awesome, really looking forward to watching this one
@refrigerant1245
@refrigerant1245 7 ай бұрын
I just this saturday bought a mk2 MR2 with the T-Roof, am 22 years old and a long lived dream finally made happy ^-^
@nosoupforyou425
@nosoupforyou425 10 ай бұрын
Had an '86 NA manual that I drove for a decade. Loved that machine, so fun to drive and would really handle corners if you knew how to handle the light front. Once you got the rpm"s above 3500 the torque improved significantly. Interior cockpit style was first class. Did have some quirky issues with that mid engine bay - I was just not built to get in there so made for some fun repair/maintenance. Would like to have one again in my garage 😊
@nigelmarx3578
@nigelmarx3578 Жыл бұрын
I own a 1992 G-Limited Mk2 manual with 207,000km that I was driving today. I've got a complete 105,000 km engine/transmission in the shed as spare. I plan on keeping mine for a very long time.
@SaturnCanuck
@SaturnCanuck Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I had a friend who had a White Supercharged "Mister Two" as we used to call it. Was fast.
@marksmithard7801
@marksmithard7801 Жыл бұрын
I’m not waiting. Still got my red Mk1 MR2👍Great Video
@tanjinpang
@tanjinpang 7 ай бұрын
15:36 I like that collapsable gearstick feature! 😂
@tyroneshoelace4872
@tyroneshoelace4872 Жыл бұрын
I owned the original MR2. I loved that car. Driving it was a blast at any speed.
@scottfineshriber5051
@scottfineshriber5051 10 ай бұрын
I got to drive a new, first gen MR2 in the 80s. I still remember how amazingly agile it seemed. It taught me how and why mid-engined cars rotate so easily about their vertical axis. The little Toyota twin cam spun up easily and the shifter throws seemed super short and quick.
@friendlypiranha774
@friendlypiranha774 Жыл бұрын
I've known a couple of people who had the 3rd generation MR2 in Cape Town. One had the personalised plate MERDE-WP.
@Happymali10
@Happymali10 Жыл бұрын
16:32 The NA Miata/MX5 is absurdly spacious though. Even quite tall people fit in it, and the trunk is far bigger than one would think.
@DrWhom
@DrWhom Жыл бұрын
vice versa, inside a big Jag or Bimmer I always wonder where all that space went
@lukerinderknecht2982
@lukerinderknecht2982 Жыл бұрын
Just saw a very clean red mk1 MR-2 at the hardware store, and now this video pops up in my feed. Nice 👍
@thescouselander5531
@thescouselander5531 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I pulled the trigger and owned a 98 model mkII t-bar in red. One of my favourite cars!
@andrewpearce1723
@andrewpearce1723 Жыл бұрын
I've always loved these cars, the 2nd version was my favourite, then the original, used to see lots on the roads. Not so much now. I really like the video.
@josephj6521
@josephj6521 Жыл бұрын
Same. I preferred to 2nd generation but when I had the opportunity to buy one for some reason I didn’t. I looked at the 3rd generation but those headlights were too ugly and it didn’t come in a manual but a silly semi-automatic. I used to see many about but not many now. I wonder if many have survived or they’ve been sent to scrap? Pity Toyota never looked like producing an overall great car. It looked promising with the Supra but it all went downhill.
@drstevenrey
@drstevenrey Жыл бұрын
My all time favorite sentence ever heard: 'ABS to stop, passenger airbag if you didn't'. Thank you for that memorable one.
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I quite liked that one as well!
@roland9367
@roland9367 Жыл бұрын
I just brought my MK1 MR2 from '85 out from the shed to get it running again. It just started (with another battery) after 6 years of standstill, within a minute. Brakes are all stuck, and one of the wheel arches is in terrible shape. But it seems doable, and great to drive it again. I already have it since I'm 21 and at the time I always drove it, also in winter weather. In the past 10 years, it was barely driven. I am looking forward to it though. I might have gone soft with my electric car and so on, but I think I will enjoy it again. A few points: The MR2 got 112hp in North-America but 124 up to 130hp elsewhere, without the catalytic converter. In Europe it got the catalytic converter in '87 and power was reduced. Mine is the one with 124hp up to 7800rpm. I must say when you go past 200km/h it doesn't feel that stable, unlike the Celicas that I had. But yeah, the car isn't new anymore. And it is not so important to go that fast. The most important thing is good tires, with bad tires this thing is dangerous when a few raindrops have fallen :)
@steffanhoffmann
@steffanhoffmann Жыл бұрын
Japan were good at imitation. Probably started with 240z et al, mainly for the 🇺🇸 market. Resembling heavily the Jag E-type. The MR2 to begin with, resembled the TR7, which in turn resembled the X-19. You're correct 👍 as it went through all sorts of shapes and sizes. One even resembling the Porsche Boxster.
@JaseSung
@JaseSung 6 ай бұрын
I sold my MK3 shortly after this video was released. I absolutely shared your opinion on the car when it was released, but owning it until 5 months ago made me realize just how lovely the car is. I continue to champion it for the purity of its brief - a fun, economical, reliable, durable and easy to drive car the likes of which won’t ever be made again moving forwards. Only reason why I no longer have it was because i couldn’t afford IT and my grail E46 330ci.
@JackBealeGuitar
@JackBealeGuitar Жыл бұрын
I used to have a white mark 2, t bar. It was so much fun
@davemardon6756
@davemardon6756 10 ай бұрын
Love my 01 Spyder. Original (minus a new top) and runs like a champ with a bit over 60K on the odometer. Green metalic with brown interior (Top is tan)....Love it.
@joseconejo5338
@joseconejo5338 Жыл бұрын
Loved that car
@ihaveacoolhat1
@ihaveacoolhat1 Жыл бұрын
Sat in one at a car show and it was the first interior I ever sat in where everything felt perfectly placed.
@ElricX
@ElricX 10 ай бұрын
These cars were so flipping cool! I wanted one badly but settled for a Corolla GTX / Ae86 coupe because it was more practical as a daily driver. Same engine, manual transmission and loads of fun but man I wish I'd got the MR2.
@ianschriefer1042
@ianschriefer1042 Жыл бұрын
I had both the 85 MK1 sunroof and 89 Supercharged Ttops, i miss them so much.
@futz48
@futz48 Жыл бұрын
In 1987 I wrecked a new MR2 on the test drive. The other driver ran a stop sign and I couldn't stop on wet road. I ended up buying a Mazda MX6 instead. In 1991 I bought a new MR2 Turbo. What a great little car that was. Wonderful handling, plenty of power.
@integralhighspeedusb
@integralhighspeedusb Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. We had to go down to the garage and pat our SW goodnight.
@mike325ci
@mike325ci Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. I don't recall you mentioning the source of the AW11's engine (4AGE from AE86 Corolla GTS) -- but as pointed out for the SW20 (3SGTE from ST185 Celica GT-Four) and ZZW30 (1ZZFE from Celica GT), the engine/transaxle combo were taken from existing Toyota cars to further keep costs down and reliability up (instead of developing a whole new engine just for the MR2). I liked the sales chart comparison with the Miata, showed that despite the Miata outselling the MR2, the trend line is essentially parallel, so the same external market forces has affected both. - Current AW11 and ZZW30 (former SW20) owner.
@ClellBiggs
@ClellBiggs Жыл бұрын
I had a red 91 Turbo with black leather interior and T-tops. Loved that car. Been a Toyota guy ever since.
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian!
@visitperaiagreece
@visitperaiagreece 9 ай бұрын
When I was a teenager, I had a Fiat X19, and I absolutely loved it. The first Generation of the MR2 looked the best, in my opinion.
@martinherrington9499
@martinherrington9499 Жыл бұрын
I went to that 1983 Tokyo Motor Show. The SV-3 concept was indeed a standout at the show.
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