2020 Audi S4 Review - Was Diesel The Right Choice For This Sporty Daily?

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JayEmm on Cars

JayEmm on Cars

Күн бұрын

Last year Audi introduced a raft of new "S" models - but the big change was that many of them were now going to be diesel powered.
I first drove the S4 on the UK model launch a while ago, and wasn't overly impressed with it. However, I wanted to get some more time with the car to see how it coped with daily duty and if the change of fuel brought some real benefits.
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@RichardFanders
@RichardFanders 4 жыл бұрын
VAG - the pioneers of the DCT are even using the ZF8hp now. Brilliant gearbox.
@nickphillips3973
@nickphillips3973 3 жыл бұрын
I have the diesel S4 and think it's brilliant. Engine torque is incredible and acceleration amazing, especially in manual mode, build quality is brilliant. I think it sounds nice as well and gets all the looks in Quantum grey. Low down and mid-range thrust is superb and very powerful large breaks. Love it.
@BarrelTitor91
@BarrelTitor91 7 ай бұрын
Any update on the car?
@NickPhillips-c4q
@NickPhillips-c4q 7 ай бұрын
Car has now been returned 😞 I loved that vehicle and did 56k in it over 3 years. That engine is off the scale powerful with 700+ Nm of stump pulling power. Loved it to bits.
@veemacks7255
@veemacks7255 4 жыл бұрын
I think you need to consider the needs of an average German customer. They'll spend time driving around town and in heavy traffic and for that they want great economy, who wouldn't. But on those occasions when the Autobahn traffic is light, they want something that can rapidly get them from 60mph to 155mph and brake well back down to 60mph when all lanes are full of slow drivers. For that they don't need awesome handling or super fast shifts, they just need a good reserve of power to get it done. It's also the reason so many German cars have ceramic brakes - it's not for track use, it's for avoiding brake fade on the Autobahn. What you also need to realise is that Diesel is about 25% cheaper than petrol in Germany (or it was last time I took any notice, I don't do diesels). So you get the double whammy of more mpg and costing less.
@3v3rhard
@3v3rhard 4 жыл бұрын
Mostly true, however the ceramics have 2 major reasons for buyers 1 bragging rights/ look 2 no brakedust so keeps the rims cleaner. I thought they are pointless, but I have them now and I do kinda like them over steel also for those 2 main reasons. I probably wouldn't option them if I bought new.
@Taylor40667
@Taylor40667 4 жыл бұрын
Vee Macks theyve changed from Diesel to petrol for 2020 for the s models
@fb1000000
@fb1000000 4 жыл бұрын
🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
@derfurz8618
@derfurz8618 4 жыл бұрын
Not just the German consumer id say, but the type that does a lot of highway miles. My father has a 3.0 TDI Touareg with 280hp, and I wouldnt change for a petrol. Its quiet, comfortable and if you want it to it goes quite well. Compare that to a petrol: They are thirsty and need to change gears if you want the smallest amount of power. So why should anyone buy the petrol, if you cant hear the engine while driving anyway? The same goes for the S4, and even the RS4, as they bassically are like muscle cars: good in a straight line, bad in the corners. I think what petrol heads need to understand is, that most people dont drive their cars to the limit, they just want power and 350hp is quite a lot no matter if its a diesel or a petrol. Who cares if the heavier Diesel engine enhances Understeer, most people, especially those that have enough money to own a S4, will never find out what understeer even is.
@JP_RS6
@JP_RS6 Жыл бұрын
​@@derfurz8618I know this is a 2 year old comment but I gotta say, the RS4 Avant is no slouch in corners, it's a great drive around country roads here in the UK once you get used to the fact it's a boat that has superb traction and nimble handling when you drive it aggressively, not as nimble as my old hot hatch but by far the best car I've ever owned, but it is a thirsty beast and not very torquey, 444bhp and 430nm of torque. You gotta have the revs up high to get the most out of it but in manual mode that's not an issue. I also love the sound of the V8. Had a few diesels too in the past and wouldn't mind buying one of these S4's for the Mrs and me to swap with every now and again. Again, old comment I know but I just had to thrown my 2 pennies in now that I have driven and own an RS4.
@davidhayes4814
@davidhayes4814 4 жыл бұрын
I think that this is a great under-stated car. Powerful diesels are really wonderful to drive.
@3v3rhard
@3v3rhard 4 жыл бұрын
Its mediocre at best for a s4. Its decent as A4 50tdi or whatever they call it these days.
@johnjuiceshipper4963
@johnjuiceshipper4963 4 жыл бұрын
The older I get, the more I enjoy torque figures over horsepower figures.
@woody555kl
@woody555kl 4 жыл бұрын
@@3v3rhard exactly its good from a car lovers perspective without that s badge.
@TheFlyingClutchman
@TheFlyingClutchman 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnjuiceshipper4963 responsiveness matters if you want to have fun..
@innerhammer
@innerhammer 4 жыл бұрын
diesels for trucks. performance cars need petrol. no sound no fun.
@andypaul999
@andypaul999 4 жыл бұрын
The people that never bought a S4 petrol are now complaining that its a diesel.
@johnjuiceshipper4963
@johnjuiceshipper4963 4 жыл бұрын
People who will never even drive a Huracan are complaining about it not having a manual. Complaining is just what the online car community is all about, unfortunately
@Dan23_7
@Dan23_7 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer a diesel over petrol. My last petrol was a H reg E30 318is, around 2003/4. My brother is an excellent diesel mechanic/technician so any problems he'd sort it. My first diesel tho was 1998/99. A mk1 golf with a 1.6 n/a diesel, it was slow as sh1t, 4 speed box. But a pleasure to drive as it had bags of torque compared to the Nova 1.3s etc my mates had. Now I have a mk2 Clio 1.5td. Most of my driving is urban, it's £30 tax a year and happily returns 50/55 mpg. I've had it nearly 3 years and no plans to swap it..... MOT tomorrow though 😂
@derfurz8618
@derfurz8618 4 жыл бұрын
also people who never drove a 3+ Liter diesel in the past decade
@derfurz8618
@derfurz8618 3 жыл бұрын
@A World Under A Spell Most big companies know their market. Audi seems to be sure the amount of people insiting on a petrol S4 is small enough to negate. He also isnt really complaining just pointing out the irony
@garyfrench6536
@garyfrench6536 6 ай бұрын
I am revisiting this video 3 years later and I think Audi pulled a blinder really. That said you don't see many S4's on the road so the end user didn't agree.
@freshjive818
@freshjive818 4 жыл бұрын
10:42 Bird: "I'll be fine for a minute, that s4 has loads of la.... HOLY FUCK!!"
@TheSaint491
@TheSaint491 4 жыл бұрын
If you get the chance to try the pre facelift petrol s4, give it a go. Might not be as practical a choice, but that engine is a lot more engaging by default
@eclecticautomotive9141
@eclecticautomotive9141 4 жыл бұрын
9:51 that trim misalignment :(
@TheFlyingClutchman
@TheFlyingClutchman 4 жыл бұрын
It's not just looks like it cos of the angle
@pb6198
@pb6198 4 жыл бұрын
It is misaligned. We are looking square down it and it's not flush either 😳😳
@pb6198
@pb6198 4 жыл бұрын
And the rattling 😑😑
@doalwa
@doalwa 4 жыл бұрын
James Prescott Audi really has some strange quality issues as of late. My 2020 A4 Avant was in the Shop due to a recall concerning the Riemenstartergenerator (sorry, I’m German and I don’t know the English term for it). My rental was a brand new A3 s-line...cheap plastics galore, rattling noises in the front and the kicker was the rubber insulation from the driver door kept falling off. The car had 1500km on the clock....not exactly a glowing advertisement.
@rorzf1butler781
@rorzf1butler781 3 жыл бұрын
@@pb6198 it’s the camera mount rattling
@PorscheSweden
@PorscheSweden 4 жыл бұрын
The only reason audi is launching these new S models as diesels is to get the fleet average for the CO2 lower to be able to build the RS cars. We should be thankful for what we get, soon the base standard will be 100 kw electric
@R-Tap
@R-Tap 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any excitement taking a diesel to the redline? I think, no. Riding the torque is satisfying, but not exciting.
@johnsvensson6540
@johnsvensson6540 4 жыл бұрын
Sebulba’s podracer sounds WAY cool!! 😉 I share your hatred for iPad infotainment solutions in cars. I’ve avoided them and bought other cars instead when they started to show up.
@mindspinn311
@mindspinn311 4 жыл бұрын
I actually like what Audi is doing here. Thought they were nuts at first after seeing the RS6, but as an all round road car this seems ideal. I wish we could still get new TDI models in the US.
@RedC220
@RedC220 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a C7 S6 Avant new in 2017, simply because of the petrol 4.0 V8. The replacement does nothing for me and I'm not a fan of the RS models, just a bit shouty for my liking. So the C7 is going to be staying a while, I'm glad I bought the warranty extension option when it was new. It is the best everyday car I have ever owned.
@WhiteMouse77
@WhiteMouse77 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime going through model list of A4 I end up with Allroad. It has longer and thus comfier suspension travel set up, more sound deadening inside floor, ideal choice of engines, unique color options and looks special. When thinking about veeery fast A4 I aways rather look at upgraded ones from Abt Motorsport because next to S-line and RS which are crazily competing with rough M BMWs the Abt Audis they are sort of like what is BMW Alpina ...based on regular comfortable models with upgrades just right things to make them feel GT rich without spoiling its exhaust, suspenssion and brakes....yes of course you can get some top end full tuning Abt or Alpina tearing AMGs appart in every aspect but mainly....you can upgrade your car just accordinng to you taste with specific parts creating on suit machine which is different to regular manufacturer conditioning "if you want this you can have it only with that and those or nothing"
@hsvcommodore4111
@hsvcommodore4111 4 жыл бұрын
The new s4/s5 and s6 are terrible!
@dominicrusho
@dominicrusho 4 жыл бұрын
All the grumpy old men will hate this because it’s a diesel and not a quad turbo W16, but I’d sure as heck rather take this than another “performance” SUV.
@future62
@future62 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a happy middle aged man who would gladly take an X3 M40i over this. The only things this does better are sip fuel and be a wagon
@i.c.d.-videos1901
@i.c.d.-videos1901 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree that the Jag XF Sportbrake S is a very close comparable. Those 2 cars were on my short list. It was like a game of tennis going back & forth deciding which attributes suited me better. Went for the XF Sportbrake S in the end & haven't regretted it.
@bensmithkent22
@bensmithkent22 2 жыл бұрын
Surely its a good deal slower 300bhp vs 350 and with a crappy gearbox. Bigger and rarer mind you. Oh and poorly put together inside.
@i.c.d.-videos1901
@i.c.d.-videos1901 2 жыл бұрын
@@bensmithkent22 the Audi is a second quicker in the 0 - 62 race, but the key is torque with both cars matched at 700nm / 516lbs. In gear acceleration to UK speed limits felt equal. Yep more space, rarer (one of the monthly Jaguar meets I attend has more E-types in attendance than Sportbrakes) & the interior actually I thought was better in the XF Sportbrake & is lasting very well. Also I can't stand the infotainment screens plonked on or to the face of dashboards. Poor design / after thought in my book. Remember each to there own & try both cars to see which you prefer.
@omnitraveller
@omnitraveller Жыл бұрын
As an S5 (supercharged V6) driver I can tell you that diesel was definitely not the right choice for the S4, 5, 6, 7.... But the German car makers are really struggling to overcome their diesel obsession
@MrScootmcg
@MrScootmcg 4 жыл бұрын
Competent but dull. Your tone throughout said it all.
@petekavanagh9186
@petekavanagh9186 4 жыл бұрын
Is diesel ever the right choice, unless it is a HGV scenario?!
@FleetAdmiral215
@FleetAdmiral215 3 жыл бұрын
Love " Shoestring" style intro tune , great video James
@woody555kl
@woody555kl 4 жыл бұрын
Still dont understand how they can do this call it an s4 when its a diesel its just a sales tactic as far as im concerened.
@urbanoman7689
@urbanoman7689 4 жыл бұрын
Diesels can absolutely be driver's cars. What are you talking about?
@3v3rhard
@3v3rhard 4 жыл бұрын
@@urbanoman7689 I think he means its not a great setup for a performance driver orientated car. Petrol engines are more superior, hence all race cars are petrol.
@urbanoman7689
@urbanoman7689 4 жыл бұрын
@@3v3rhard The R10 TDI says otherwise. So do the Alpina D3, Golf GTD and others. Most diesels aren't even remotely designed to be sporty, therefore it seems like it's an inherently shit setup for a performance car. Of course, diesels only recently became viable in performance cars, so that might have something to do with it.
@pb6198
@pb6198 4 жыл бұрын
@@urbanoman7689 r10 TDI is because it has to pit about 1/3 as often for fuel. Not because of higher performance
@HondaExige1
@HondaExige1 4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing this has an actual speaker in the exhaust like the SQ5 diesel?
@visionist7
@visionist7 4 жыл бұрын
Blergh
@ahemgee9542
@ahemgee9542 4 жыл бұрын
Embarassing
@MrGuvEuroman
@MrGuvEuroman 4 жыл бұрын
100% no, they shouldn’t of sold out the fast brands like bmw or Mercedes did 😔
@TheFlyingClutchman
@TheFlyingClutchman 4 жыл бұрын
How did Merc and BMW? Their baby AMG and M cars still have straight 6 twin turbo engines, not a diesel. Only Audi sold out
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 4 жыл бұрын
Sludge grey is still the colour for the 'sheeple' it seems.
@TeamAtterz
@TeamAtterz 3 жыл бұрын
That pigeon didn't appreciate the lag either!
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 4 жыл бұрын
Slow in is definitely not the way to drive an Audi. Makes understeer worse by lightening the front end an putting more weight on rear. Need the opposite. Also stiffer rear sway bar helps a ton.....Fast in, brake hard, trail brake to apex helps dial out understeer by keeping weight on front wheels and lightening the rear to help it rotate. Then rocket out of corner.
@pb6198
@pb6198 4 жыл бұрын
Or start off with a good chassis and suspension setup in the first place 😒😒😒
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Bartley.....agreed, but we have to deal with what we got. Think the ‘problem’ with Quattro is it’s set up more for bad weather grip than all out dry weather performance. You also have to be able to adjust your driving style and not let the car do it all for you. Half the fun is knowing what to do and having the ability to do it. Just like you have to adjust for an over steering car. Drifting is definitely more fun, but braking just hard enough to rotate the rear end at turn in is fun too. Most people are either too scared to do it or don’t have the ability and need the car to do everything for them.
@pb6198
@pb6198 4 жыл бұрын
@@seashackf1 I don't need the car to do everything for me. I drive an evo 6 😂😂😂. That is superb in bad weather and still great in the dry. Bad engineering is bad engineering
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Bartley...you got me there. Aside from packaging it can’t explain why Audi have always done this. Evo’s are great cars, but overall very different to something like an S4 Avant. Evo is ALL about performance and more of sports car. S4 Avant is a balance between performance, practically, luxury, etc.
@csanvi
@csanvi 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice Jay! Some pretty good points, especially with regards to the tablets and screens extravaganza in higher Audi models (A/S6 onwards). I would love to have one of these (S5/4) as my daily driver. Keep your videos coming and be safe. Subscribed.
@stefanbadass5357
@stefanbadass5357 4 жыл бұрын
The panel fit on the drivers door looks a bit crap too
@TomazzA123
@TomazzA123 4 жыл бұрын
Love the styling of this s4 but a touring 330i M sport still excites me more
@sgt.vernex6378
@sgt.vernex6378 4 жыл бұрын
diesel just doesnt do it anymore, with all the modern regulations even if it sounded decent or bearable. There wouldn't even be any chance for that sound to come through. Theres more excitement and ofcourse driver involvement with a bmw but also it being a petrol or benzine the revs are just.... it just simply feels better.
@TheMentalblockrock
@TheMentalblockrock 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to sick my neck out here, without even watching the video to say that diseasal can NEVER be the right choice for a sporty car! How are you going to rev it to 6,000 RPM??????
@pb6198
@pb6198 4 жыл бұрын
Live to see this revving to 9k like my proper 90s petrol sports car
@grahamsmith2022
@grahamsmith2022 4 жыл бұрын
I find diesel cars incredibly dull and tedious,although they've moved on massively in recent decades I don't find them a pleasure to drive,still ideally suited to wagons,tractors and "off roaders".
@alfiebrotherton935
@alfiebrotherton935 3 жыл бұрын
Have you driven the car lol ?
@Metal05
@Metal05 3 жыл бұрын
I have An Audi A6 Diesel quattro and it has superb blend of power, economy, comfort and handling for my family. I love it, very special car to me. Have you forgotten that Audi won Le Mans in a diesel. Think they know how to build a diesel. I appreciate your opinion.
@johnyjackson6952
@johnyjackson6952 6 ай бұрын
I own a 2016 bmw 335d stage 1 388bhp 788nm and I'm thinking of upgrading to one of these in a couple of year's
@Intergalacticheroe
@Intergalacticheroe 3 ай бұрын
i have this car and its phenomenal diesel was gerat option plus it sounds great you cant realy tell on video
@junaidahmed4280
@junaidahmed4280 2 ай бұрын
@@Intergalacticheroe did you own this car mate ?
@MrRobotRooster
@MrRobotRooster 2 жыл бұрын
Sebulbas pod racer 😂😂😂. Oh James this is the best thing you’ve said. How didn’t I pick that up when I watched this video the other year
@alastairmacgregor4421
@alastairmacgregor4421 4 жыл бұрын
The S4 suspension is better than most Audis on sports suspension, but why do they not give us the adaptive suspension option that the rest of the continent have? The gearbox calibration is wrong and the car changes down too easily. It should stay in a higher gear longer when accelerating to take advantage of the huge torque available at low revs. The BMW M340i is the obvious competitor and a comparison would be interesting. I found it a better car to drive, as you might expect, but I have only driven the petrol version.
@Djwatzy
@Djwatzy 4 жыл бұрын
The moment you mentioned a 3200GT and throttle problems I started reminiscing about wheeler dealers 😁
@QasimHussain95
@QasimHussain95 4 жыл бұрын
s4 started with a v6 biturbo before that it wasn't an s4
@t5jerry
@t5jerry 4 жыл бұрын
THE "sensible" option.
@Mad0nU
@Mad0nU 4 жыл бұрын
what i liked about my diesel a6 allroad was doing cruising at 230kmh on highway in silence
@malcolmhardwick4258
@malcolmhardwick4258 4 жыл бұрын
10:43 Bird thought you were going fast enough !
@brianiswrong
@brianiswrong 4 жыл бұрын
Bird was happy it has turbo lag😉
@robertcmcnamara
@robertcmcnamara 4 жыл бұрын
Shockingly fast reactions from that pigeon...normally they would faceplant into anything going over 30mph.
@joec9958
@joec9958 3 жыл бұрын
"How does an S car go?" Like a snail I'd imagine!
@nl3712
@nl3712 3 жыл бұрын
Fnar
@derekjohnson3445
@derekjohnson3445 4 жыл бұрын
Comparing the throttle response to a Maserati 3200 you should see the Wheeler Dealer episode on that car.
@CarsofGlasgow
@CarsofGlasgow 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! Why would you compare the A4/S4 to the XF? (I would presume the XE would be the close rival?)
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 4 жыл бұрын
In price terms it is the closest, also available in estate form
@alexdalgleish1061
@alexdalgleish1061 4 жыл бұрын
My Panda 4x4 won't do 45mpg. That is an amazing car that S4.
@Punisher9419
@Punisher9419 4 жыл бұрын
I want one like this www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1252588 would go well with my Jaguar XKR :)
@ReeceT20
@ReeceT20 4 жыл бұрын
A manual M2 or diesel S4 for the same price, I know which one I'd have
@TheFlyingClutchman
@TheFlyingClutchman 4 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have an estate m340i with that b58, more power and less weight if I need the practicality
@ReeceT20
@ReeceT20 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheFlyingClutchman I'm pretty young so I'm going for the M2 next no need for an estate yet
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on that one....diesel in a performance car is a no go for me. But, for the first time ever, I’d rather have a Mustang (GT350) over an M2 or even M3/4. The new M’s sound terrible and have too much crap on them. GT350 - insane sounding NA V8, manual.....basically a new e90 M3. But with the long winters in New England none are a go as only car.
@joecarrolljnr
@joecarrolljnr Жыл бұрын
Came along way from 1000 subs back then
@joebee1558
@joebee1558 Ай бұрын
Why is the engine management light on??
@christopherwhitehead8946
@christopherwhitehead8946 4 жыл бұрын
ZF must be making MILLIONS of their 8-speed automatic gearbox. All the new BMW performance cars and now AUDI are using it. My M140i uses it. It’s a brilliant bit if kit.
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 4 жыл бұрын
Every automatic bmw of the F-series models with a bit more torque from as far down as the 118d has used it I think. That has to be many millions of cars by now, just from BMW, so yeah.
@rachids3030
@rachids3030 4 ай бұрын
And now is around 35k euros worth. Couple more years and it's affordable to buy.
@stevenvater2681
@stevenvater2681 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone noticed the door panel fit?? Not good
@JURASSICDIVERUK
@JURASSICDIVERUK 4 жыл бұрын
Great review and a very nice car!
@simonburleigh1872
@simonburleigh1872 4 жыл бұрын
James, I am surprised at the fuel economy that you got from this and the XF that you compared it with. My XF 3.0 diesel did 37mpg on a mixed mainly motorway commute and 57 on a long motorway run.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 4 жыл бұрын
I did pretty much the same type of driving with both. The Jag really wasnt very good on the MPG front.
@ludicrousfool7953
@ludicrousfool7953 4 жыл бұрын
This car still uses the turbo V6 in the U.S.; I’m not sure if Audi offers any diesel cars here. I suppose that’s why Jay specified this is the European version.
@Jackofspades11
@Jackofspades11 4 жыл бұрын
S4 and S6 deserve to be diesel. But a coupe styled vehicle like the S5 and S7 should certainly be Petrol. Audi deffo missed an opportunity by not doing that.
@vomErsten
@vomErsten 2 жыл бұрын
What's funny is that the S5 Cabrio is petrol-only, so they aren't totally tone-deaf.
@TheMadTatter
@TheMadTatter 4 жыл бұрын
I just can't get enthusiastic about modern Audis, all stereotypes about their drivers aside, I really think they started losing their way after the sort of C6 (2008/2009ish) models, to me they went from being almost the pinnacle of German mass-production, to going down the fashion route, a bit like the Range Rover Evoque, and in fact when the A1 came out, I said it was the matching purse to the designer handbag that was the Evoque. Now they've taken their "fast road" sports models and dropped a diesel in them, it just seems completely at odds with itself. And that colour, not just Audi but a few manufacturers using primer grey as a legit colour, it has to stop. Your car doesn't look modern or edgy in that colour, it looks like they didn't finish painting it and when our "heads turn" it's because we're all laughing at you.
@DoubleDeckerAnton
@DoubleDeckerAnton 4 жыл бұрын
I still love my petrol cars...🙂👍
@drewwagar
@drewwagar 4 жыл бұрын
Original S4 (B5 chassis) was a bi-turbo V6, not a 5 cylinder.
@mihaelmiklosic
@mihaelmiklosic 3 жыл бұрын
original S4 vas based on C4 chasis, 2.2 5 cylinder, they later based in on B5
@drewwagar
@drewwagar 3 жыл бұрын
@@mihaelmiklosic That was the S2 Coupe, not the S4.
@dbnpoldermans4120
@dbnpoldermans4120 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds great for a diesel. However, those seats are really an eyesour. Not because of the color, but just how the red leather flows over the black plastic. wtf happened. Audi are amongst the kings of interior!
@MP_pov
@MP_pov 4 жыл бұрын
To me, Audi Sx is now just a trim level. Better to get a well specced petrol S Line. It’s also competent but not special. If you want special and are willing to pay for it, RS is the only way to go.
@gabrielcaramet3238
@gabrielcaramet3238 4 жыл бұрын
I don't care if it's a diesel relly it's a great car
@hsvcommodore4111
@hsvcommodore4111 4 жыл бұрын
Get an s5 convertible if you really want an S car, it's the only version That still has the petrol v6
@BenoitAngbwa
@BenoitAngbwa 4 жыл бұрын
Roger Unwin do you know why that is? Saw they weren’t selling any new convertibles in the s5 range
@steveo8533
@steveo8533 8 ай бұрын
How’s it stack up against the 335d touring?
@markcompton6750
@markcompton6750 4 жыл бұрын
James...... that shirt!
@andreiarama8745
@andreiarama8745 4 жыл бұрын
Jay, I think that you got things wrong with the diesel S4. They went for the diesel engine because it has lower CO2
@JohnGuidetti751
@JohnGuidetti751 4 жыл бұрын
Doubt it. The Sq8/ sq7 just ditched diesel to go back to a V8 petrol. Future S4/5 will probably go back to a petrol.
@andreiarama8745
@andreiarama8745 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnGuidetti751 SQ7/SQ8 petrol are mild hybrid that's why they went back from diesel. Also Audi has almost their entire line up mild hybrid and they have the e-tron to lower the CO2
@seenbyme6696
@seenbyme6696 Жыл бұрын
My brother owns this exact car as in this one
@Dan23_7
@Dan23_7 4 жыл бұрын
10:44 close call there 😱
@memilome3431
@memilome3431 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing wrong with my B9 S4.It needs a bloody good wash.
@boogboog8097
@boogboog8097 3 жыл бұрын
Shirts so loud that Stevie Wonder can see them 😎
@stefandsc1028
@stefandsc1028 3 жыл бұрын
as an owner of a manual B8 S4, this diesel version is a betrayal. they lost a customers base.
@thedetailingdoctor5746
@thedetailingdoctor5746 4 жыл бұрын
Catch the pigeon catch the pigeon ... 😂😂 let me know if you get the reference I’m sure Jayemm will
@ChuckFickens1972
@ChuckFickens1972 4 жыл бұрын
This will freak you out.... It was "stop" the pigeon, not "catch" kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZuZXn99arujfc0
@ShamusOGrady2
@ShamusOGrady2 4 жыл бұрын
No ones going to mention that suicidal bird at 10:43
@WegrennerX
@WegrennerX 3 жыл бұрын
Guess not 😂
@andysp8845
@andysp8845 4 жыл бұрын
And a sound like rocks in an oil drum!
@TheSwireRob
@TheSwireRob 4 жыл бұрын
Always thought that the petrol S-whatever versions were a bit pointless when the RS is of course the superior choice. In which case, yeah make it a diesel.
@dagnut
@dagnut 4 жыл бұрын
not everyone wants the full fat RS? plus hsve you seen the price of the RS range?
@TheSwireRob
@TheSwireRob 4 жыл бұрын
@@dagnut I'd wager that every single person who buys an petrol S variant would rather have the RS if it weren't for the increased purchase price. Meanwhile, there is usually an equivalent from another brand that isn't just a neutered version of the full-fat car (S3 vs Golf R, for example). A diesel S on the other hand -- that's something completely different.
@dagnut
@dagnut 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSwireRob no way..what world do you live in? its not just purchasing price its maintenance and miles..if you doing 200 miles a day on the motorway are you going put 40k miles on an RS and deal with the depreciation and fuel cost? the S models are far more resilient to mileage in terms of residuals and far more economical. not everyone commuting spends the maximum money they can afford? and there's BIK to consider, fleet CO2 limits..many reason why an S model is a better choice
@TheSwireRob
@TheSwireRob 4 жыл бұрын
​@@dagnut Plenty people would deal with those costs, yes. Those that wouldn't is why the S version is now diesel.
@dagnut
@dagnut 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSwireRob and you could also say they they didn't want to introduce another easily tuneable petrol S to encroach on RS sales now that its running a blown 6. either way your original point was S buyers just couldn't afford RS..that is not true
@willadams9001
@willadams9001 4 жыл бұрын
The right tool for the job, but the wrong trousers for the waist
@spg3331
@spg3331 4 жыл бұрын
nah me no like diesel in s4
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 4 жыл бұрын
TDI is always the right choice
@ericpisch2732
@ericpisch2732 4 жыл бұрын
No need to watch, the answer is no. Every performance car Audi makes gets more removed from driver involvement, the buyers don’t care as long as it has the right badge on it when they clean it in front of the neighbours on a Sunday morning. Audi wouldn’t know what a drivers car was if one pulled up at Audi HQ and started slapping everyone with a fish that said I am driver involvement.
@ryan5983
@ryan5983 4 жыл бұрын
Jokes
@robbiebobson5746
@robbiebobson5746 3 жыл бұрын
Standard Audi review cut n paste, “it understeers”, next sentence “Audi’s Quattro system just grips n grips”
@bungle5785
@bungle5785 4 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly sure that those exhausts are fake, that’s unforgivable.
@kofib3
@kofib3 4 жыл бұрын
It's worse on the S6.. Totally fake.
@stu4181
@stu4181 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a World War Two war plane at lower revs, looks a great car to daily, but you pay for it at 54k I wouldn’t want to be leaving that in work multi storey car parks or busy shopping centre car parks.... 1800kg is too heavy for a sports car though imho yes it’s not a ‘sports car’, but it’s an s4 so is meant to be a sporty estate.
@davekennedy6315
@davekennedy6315 4 жыл бұрын
No doubt a great car, but a diesel will never be a true drivers car. There's no thrashing and revving, no glorious exhaust note, no addicting engine scream/roar/bellow. This is a massive part of the fun in any car, let alone what should be a high end sporty saloon/estate.
@urbanoman7689
@urbanoman7689 4 жыл бұрын
Shifting being optional adds makes things a lot more amusing. Stamp down at 2000 and lift off. Huge torque everywhere is just as good as big revs. And diesels can sure as shit sound great, but if you're looking for a high pitched I4 scream you will be dissapointed.
@davekennedy6315
@davekennedy6315 4 жыл бұрын
@@urbanoman7689 yeah, they definitely have staggering levels of torque. But the power band just feels really short and the drop off of power at 5000/5500rpm (depending on engine) is shocking. I remember my first experience of that, midway through an overtake on the wrong side of the road, the car hit 5000rpm and suddenly it was like hitting the brakes. Being used to petrol engines, the need to change up was very alien. It was a mistake I learned from quick enough though haha!
@BennyTheWoo
@BennyTheWoo 4 жыл бұрын
Heinous.
@honza2755
@honza2755 4 жыл бұрын
Prefacelift s4 is much more attractive car.
@krakowiakowii4759
@krakowiakowii4759 4 жыл бұрын
oui where's that Celica mate !!!!
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 4 жыл бұрын
Answered in tomorrow's video
@rjdavies1982
@rjdavies1982 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure you could call that tractor a performance car!
@J3n555
@J3n555 2 жыл бұрын
Diesel and sport doesnt go together in my opinion
@ImBarryScottCSS
@ImBarryScottCSS 4 жыл бұрын
No. Cyaaaaaaaa
@qbal7562
@qbal7562 3 жыл бұрын
'S' branded Audi's should be petrol. The end.
@fredtheted2259
@fredtheted2259 4 жыл бұрын
It is amazing that people will pile into a car they have no intention of ever buying🤦
@curbyourshi1056
@curbyourshi1056 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely f all wrong with that car. I'd have one in a trice.
@BronchoGillespie
@BronchoGillespie 4 жыл бұрын
Audi should ditch the S Tronic full stop it’s a fucking hateful device!
@mach1743
@mach1743 2 жыл бұрын
No!
@richiebtime489
@richiebtime489 4 жыл бұрын
Ideal towcar, not a 'sporty' car. Front end is horrid.
@spainter1985
@spainter1985 4 жыл бұрын
Such backwards thinking.... get it in the sea.
@TheApana
@TheApana 4 жыл бұрын
diesel is gay for road cars...
@jayjuggrnaut
@jayjuggrnaut 3 жыл бұрын
You think you're player (playa) with that shirt on, huh?
@wololo4761
@wololo4761 4 жыл бұрын
Let's take a moment to appreciate the shirt...
@Elliottcam
@Elliottcam 3 жыл бұрын
Define appreciate?
@Rhowhat
@Rhowhat 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought a petrol B9 S4 Avant as my do everything single car. It's brilliant, the diesel does nothing for me. The wheels and lights for the facelift are awful and make it look oddly dated.
@beemerdek
@beemerdek 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a B9 3.0 tdi pre face-lift and cannot work out how they messed up the new one so badly.
@AStick3Pedals
@AStick3Pedals 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you on the facelift lights! They went back to separate LED clusters which remind me of the orginal LED lights that Audi came out with more than 10 years ago. The continuous LED strips look so much better. For example on your pre-facelift B9.
@vomErsten
@vomErsten 2 жыл бұрын
The B9 looked dated immediately when the G20 3-series came out and the facelift did not do its job. It's what's stopping me from getting one.
@heolyllan
@heolyllan 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought when I went to look at a 20 plate today. It strangely looked dated. However it went like stink tho with that 347 bhp
@AgSmithsilversmith
@AgSmithsilversmith 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, minor suggestion, I have no idea what the earlier model numbers mean but would probably recognise them, maybe flash up images of the older cars so that us non audiphiles can keep up
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