Great vid bro. The metronome kind of killed the tones for me though
@iamjakt3 жыл бұрын
I'm struggling to understand why they are there.
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@jacobsawley987 ай бұрын
I can't even begin to imagine why you left the sound of the metronome in
@lfscrazy3 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as a 1973 JTM. JTMs were only produced up till ~1967
@johnmarshall39033 жыл бұрын
Your Exactly right. It's a JMP and it's definitely been messed around with.
@kinochdotcom Жыл бұрын
yep, Jimi used a JTM
@jeffallen33724 ай бұрын
@@kinochdotcom Yeah this guy suscks
@markstiffler68982 жыл бұрын
Just saw this and very cool demo/comparison of these amps. I have both an '86 JCM800 combo and '73 JTM 50 watt head. For this this comparison, thought you should jump the channels on the JTM as you did the Plexi - it would sound very similar to the Plexi. Love both of mine but there's just something about a JTM with the channels jumped and both volumes at just around 6 that is about as perfect (at least to my ears) of breakup and distortion as there is - and I love the JCM as well. FirstWorld problems, picking between our Marshalls :). Love your channel; and this comparison - thanks
@cactusjack21793 жыл бұрын
Best comparison ever!!! This is what I want to hear in that kind of videos - just a simple rhythm near punk-rock stuff.
@1thess5233 жыл бұрын
Yes that's what I pretty much said, I play simple skate and pop punk and I couldn't play a real lead to save someone's life so I always appreciate rhythm playing myself 👍
@cactusjack21793 жыл бұрын
@@1thess523 cool, man! It's hard to find a good rhythm guitarist for now, who loves and feels that music genre. Wish you luck with that!
@robk7091 Жыл бұрын
Wow......that Marshall Click track, really cuts through the mix, the way to go, a must for all searching for that classic vintage tone....get the vintage Marshall Click.🤣
@LocoDiablo94 жыл бұрын
1983 is 27 years ago? Man, I just got a decade younger! Time to download tinder! Hahaha. JK great video.
@Eflatmajor7sharp112 жыл бұрын
So good to hear these in context of the mix. I'd love to have you explore that aspect more. Also, your song sounds like Garbage (as in Butch Vig :)
@blakjack30532 жыл бұрын
Nice shootout! I have a 79' JMP 2203 that I recently recieved back from Lee Jackson in Austin TX who did a filter cap replacement and added a tube buffered effects loop and it sounds phenomenal!
@r.parker19333 жыл бұрын
Good concept. Really good idea to have each one both on their own and with a backing track. Problem: the friggin click track is louder than EVERYTHING ELSE! If possible, can you edit that out and re-post? That would make this video wonderful.
@timmytVA Жыл бұрын
AMEN.
@thewrit69467 ай бұрын
That metronome should be louder 😜 great shootout
@JayMaasRecording7 ай бұрын
That’s as loud as it could go ;)
@jeanpierre723 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this. I have two 1978 JMP 2x12 (Blackback) combos and, yeah, they are incredibly dynamic/reactive. I would have liked a demo that showed how each amp reacted/broke up with more of a variation in dynamics and touch, as I've lately been appreciating "plexi" and JTM tones.
@johnb4024 Жыл бұрын
The JTM is ferocious. Balls to the wall awesomeness
@pjmaas42874 жыл бұрын
Those last two guys sound best for sure. 800 sounds mixed and ready to go!
@charliebendock926011 ай бұрын
Would enjoy the chance to hear how these amps sound with a lighter touch, melodic lines, and letting notes sustain in addition to banging away on power chords
@isuckcaq2 жыл бұрын
The JMP You played is the same circuit as a JCM800 until 1983. Great amps
@gabriel_santana_863 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've played a lot through a JCM800 2203 with a 1960A, and strangely the sound you had with the JMP is that harsch sound, whereas I would expect the JMP to sound like your JCM800 as the fourth amp (did they got mixed up?). Also, the JTM sounds like a Bassman, and that makes sense. Plexi is my favorite by far. Cheers!
@pellevastano7 ай бұрын
On the point of the JMP and JCM, it's worth considering the Early JCMs are the same circuit as the JMPs, and with that circuit component tolerance plays a difference, especially since we are talking carbon comp resistors with 5% tolerances, capacitors with up to 10% tolerances, and potentiometers which can have up to a 20% difference, so it could be a lot of things adding up to a fairly different voicing amp to amp.
@lowqualityguitarvideos4 жыл бұрын
I liked the JTM and the plexi best, but I do love lower headroom marshall tones! Get that squish and evens out the crispy top.
@BrianIglesiasROT8records4 жыл бұрын
1st! Nice work as always Jay! Loved the sound 🤘
@TheArtyLuvShow3 жыл бұрын
JMP and JCM 800 (81-83) are same circuit.after 83 things changed
@shred53 жыл бұрын
They got thinner and more aggressive when they changed the inputs from vertical to horizontal.
@Nico-pb9lq7 ай бұрын
Only for the 100w, the 50 w stays the same tone wise
@MacKalkin4 жыл бұрын
Plexi and jcm 800 in this shootout win for me
@kimseniorb3 жыл бұрын
100%
@firstboyonthemoon88763 жыл бұрын
They all sound a bit different but all the heads sound great. Can't go wrong with a vintage Marshall. What is that riff you are playing? Cool.
@thedirge1003 жыл бұрын
Love the 800
@jakamkourasanis2 жыл бұрын
I love my 84 JCM800 2203, through a JCM900 cab. I also have a JCM900 4100 which rocks too. The little lead 12 combo always gets up recorded. My Woogie (made locally in Adelaide Australia) kicks ass, sort of does the 900 thing but has heaps more bottom end. I'm happy with my amp collection.
@michaelshearer3559 Жыл бұрын
Be great to hear some different ranges and different riffs. I'd love to know more about these amps. Very nice collection.
@DRIIC-qw8us3 жыл бұрын
The click track over the guitar is well Bitmap Brothers!
@clayknowles73822 жыл бұрын
Are these 50 or 100 watts? The different transformers, voltage and tube saturation between the two changes the tone and feel. The "JMP"s seen here are better known as either 2203 or 2204 and have different characteristics. Again, this is a 50 vs 100 watt condition. The very first years of JCM 800 (vertical inputs ) are basically the same as early 80s 2203s or 2204s. So I'm curious what years and wattage the "JMP" (2203/04) is vs the JCM 800? Thanks for the video.
@purplelookplay2364 Жыл бұрын
Sounds beautiful; great job !❤
@guillermopalacios45874 жыл бұрын
Why do we have to hear the metronome??
@JayMaasRecording4 жыл бұрын
Because I forgot to turn it off :)
@TheMentalblockrock3 жыл бұрын
@@JayMaasRecording on literally every track?
@amoruzz2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the backing tracks, funky sounding.
@karst413 жыл бұрын
What I have learned about Marshall’s that sound like chit, replace the Pre amp tubes with matched gain Jjs or Genalex. If saturated power tubes sound Carly then get some good tubes and bias correctly. Still sounds like dodo then take it to a good tech and change out some caps in the tone circuit. Cheers
@Heatfarmer3 ай бұрын
Matched gain preamp tubes doesn't do anything in a Marshall, only in the PI, which is the third preamp tube. The two first tubes just have a single signal path with sequential gain stages, so no need for the two gain stages of the tubes or both tubes to be matched.
@KelsterVonShredster Жыл бұрын
was the metronome intended? Hope not lol I do love your taste in amps!
@jt53263 жыл бұрын
Love it. 50 watt plexi is where it’s at for me!
@corpse-in-orbit Жыл бұрын
Very cool collection - I'm probably way late on this, but in case it's interesting: JTMs and JMPs aren't types of amp, they're different eras of production. The same, or nearly the same, amp circuit might be labeled either JTM or JMP depending on when it was made. There are several generations of amps labeled JTM from just 1962 (the 30-watt "Bluesbreaker" combo) to 1966 (JTM50 "Black Flag" and Hendrix's JTM45/100, a.k.a. the Marshall JTM Super Amp), for example. JMP Super Leads sound different from JTMs, but that's because the amp circuit evolved over time, not because "a JMP" and "a JTM" are different amps. Same thing partially applies to JCMs as well: the JCM 800 circuit had been in production for several years as the JMP Mk.2 Master Model (either 2203 or 2204 depending on the size of the power section), I think starting somewhere around 1976?, before Jim Marshall decided to relabel it as the JCM 800 Lead Series just before 1980. The first rounds of Master Models were actually considered semi-failures, because people expected a Plexi tone at low volume, but when Marshall renamed them and associated the JCM 800 tone with the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, they got massively popular.
@Nghilifa Жыл бұрын
Yup. The JCM800 2203/2204 are the same as the JMP Mk.II 2203/2204s. He changed distributor (or the deal expired) in 1980, so they decided to re-design and rename the JMP Mk.II to JCM800.
@drewg30873 жыл бұрын
Only the best amps! Damn I want all.
@robertjenkins59993 жыл бұрын
more metronome!
@stratolestele76115 ай бұрын
JTM45 ended my Marshall journey. I'm, well 'she's' home now.
@1thess5233 жыл бұрын
First off all I appreciate the all rhythm and no lead playing because that's my style, I'm a simple pop and skate punk guitarist so everything I play is rhythm. I have to say the Plexi sounded the cleanest and the best in the mix out of all the amps. I play a 1995 JCM 900 4500 (6L6) and a 90 something JCM 2000 DSL100 and I've found both of these amps sound a lot better with a boost or overdrive both. Enjoyed the video overall 👍
@kimseniorb3 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Any chance you tried vintage modern or jvm? Any thoughts?
@scottjamable3 жыл бұрын
That JMP and the 800 should have identical circuits and sound very similar unless wattage is different between the two. Are they both 2204 circuits? You said that the 800 is more ice picky, maybe you can change a resistor or simple mod to make it sound a little darker. I just wish someone could post a video of the JMP 2204 and early JCM 800 2204 and they sound the same. I'm surprised they sounded so different but, just the slightest difference in tubes/ components can make all of the difference I guess.
@michaeltherion74593 жыл бұрын
Casio keyboard thing is hilarious.
@cyberlip666 Жыл бұрын
IMO what the JCM800 excels at is palm muting. Palm mutes sound huge punchy and percussive
@breadzeppelin27053 жыл бұрын
Plexi all day everyday.
@filippopavarini93887 ай бұрын
Hi Jay, you seem to be very expert concerning Marshall amps and sounds, so I have a question for you (I hope it doesn’t sounds like a blasphemy 😂): if I pick one of those amps, say the JTM, and put an EQ pedal before or after it, would I be able to obtain the sounds of the other ones? Thanks in advance!
@JayMaasRecording7 ай бұрын
Not exactly that’s for sure. AnEQ pedal will help make things brighter or darker, etc. but what really separates these amps is the gain structure and the way they break up. The other thing about old Marshall Amps is even if you have two of the same exact model from the same exact year, they will sound slightly different
@Rocks4You973 жыл бұрын
That Jcm 800 is THIRTY seven years old.
@JayMaasRecording3 жыл бұрын
I math good
@jaycee308653 жыл бұрын
It is also too dark for some reason. Way too.
@pwrmac76003 жыл бұрын
I dig the tone of all of them with the exception of the JTM, not a big fan. These amps are all great for a straight up rock thing, but I personally like to also play harder rock and Metal as well. I would definitely have to boost these amps to get them to work for rock and also the harder rock metal stuff. Good news is, they all sound great boosted as well!
@twintriode Жыл бұрын
Why did you leave the click track in it?
@bossman12083 жыл бұрын
what are the specs on the Les Paul? It sounds great.
@martinoshinsky5713 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever played an Origin 50? Bass player here just looking for a backline for my studio...Most guitar players bring their own rig.
@melvinsfan Жыл бұрын
WTF is up with the metronome? Did you even watch the video before you posted it?
@briandonovan95602 ай бұрын
And not one mention of using NOS tubes for a real Marshall period correct sound. This is a HUGE oversight.
@andreisidro65444 жыл бұрын
All of them sound amazing, but I totally agree with you on the JCM 800. Last year I did a record of a sort of "midwest emo" type band and they had JCM 800 and it was sooo not the sound they were going for... We ended up using fender hot rods and a laney GH100L (which sounded like a JCM 800 but with more headroom) instead.
@goobiecaro81353 жыл бұрын
Nice demo. What cab and speaker combination did you use on the demo?
@6oundStudio4 жыл бұрын
great vid as always! would you consider comparing it to Mercuriall Spark? I understand that there is no point for you to use vst when you have the real deal, but it would be very cool to know how it compares from a dude who plays real marshall heads all the time.
@JayMaasRecording4 жыл бұрын
I’ve actually never used that plugin but I was curious so I just listened to it online. It sound solid! There is still that digital “thing” I can hear in basically every amp sim but it sounds better than a lot of them for sure!
@6oundStudio4 жыл бұрын
@@JayMaasRecording i am not expert, but I am more than sure, that digital thing is within cab simulation, not the amp. Master Korneff said that typical speaker stops at about 6k, so if you use a great IR loader and filter the highs, the difference is less obvious
@kimseniorb3 жыл бұрын
@@6oundStudio its within the amp 100%. actually real cabs vs IRs is much harder to spot. but digital amps just have lots of things wrong to them - from unnatural high end, to phasey low end, to overall lack of dynamics and punch
@timmytVA Жыл бұрын
Forgive me if I'm wrong, as I only know what I've read in books, magazines, and the Internet. A "1973 JTM"? I thought JTM designation started to phase out in 1965/66.
@heythere69832 жыл бұрын
Hey man, when looking into Buying these amps, it doesn’t matter what country they come from if they have the mains voltage switcher right? If in the USA you’d need to put it on 110 volts and you’re good correct? Other than getting some sort of power regulator to actually match 110 volts , right? I’d appreciate the input since my jvm is purely only for USA voltage
@newrockorder11 ай бұрын
Le speaker?
@robertrogers23952 жыл бұрын
It needs MORE cowbell !
@topfloorstudio2684 Жыл бұрын
Did you say that 800 came out 27 years ago? I thought it was a 1983? And did I miss where you said the years of the 2nd & 3rd amps? Inquiring minds want to know!
@simonaustin11363 жыл бұрын
Love this comparison and damn that’s a beautiful les Paul. All I’d say is it doesn’t seem the jcm800 got a fair chance as the bass is rolled all the way down. It gets nice and fat and warm, I run mine at 10 all the time, and what I loved about the plexis in your video is when they had the low end pushed and sound like they’re just on the edge of blowing up
@fredcolameo30952 жыл бұрын
best of all sounds the metonome.........hands down
@matouscervenka72483 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, thanks! And the winner is.... Marshall :-) Btw - which cabinet and speakers did you use for this test?
@etbilu50314 ай бұрын
old resistors and capacitor change value and the sound change. This is the reason why the sound is not the same
@jorgeband11112 жыл бұрын
Beautiful amps lucky man !...., IMO every Marshall has it's own voice, not all the jmp, 800s or plexi sounds the same, each one has it's own personality and eq ....
@vasvarigyula9360 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY! KZbin is filled to the brim with pretentious shredders and other look-how-awesome-I-can-play dummies when it comes to gear videos. What they don't know is that THIS is how you present any kind of amp, really. Subbed!
@JayMaasRecording Жыл бұрын
Awww dude thank you!!
@shreddedbylight2 жыл бұрын
@7:18 @7:49 @4:36 @5:11 @3:04 @3:30 @1:17 @1:42
@ilredeldeserto3 жыл бұрын
JMP and plexi win! Which do you think Iron Maiden used?
@Heatfarmer3 ай бұрын
4 input amps with treblebooster in front and 2 input master vol. amps with tube screamers (IIRC)
@ilredeldeserto3 ай бұрын
@@Heatfarmer thank you
@rocker86923 жыл бұрын
Is the plexi 100 or 50 watt?Cheers
@MT-mt8bd7 ай бұрын
And what year? The reissue or one from the 70s or 80s or 90s?
@cristianpena443 жыл бұрын
Awesome Sounds!! Personally, i prefer the Plexi and JCM 800 recordings. The JMP lacks body and the JTM it's too clean for my taste.
@astro20692 жыл бұрын
Was that the JMP 2204 or 2203?
@joek2904 Жыл бұрын
JCM 2000 tsl 100 is underrated
@The_Absurdistt3 жыл бұрын
So, what is the year on that JTM?
@Janne196916 ай бұрын
Plexi amps were made in the 60's. Do you have a plexi amp or reissue? They are Super Lead amps model number 1959. Also there is no such one amp as JCM 800. JCM 800 is a line of different models. JMP is also a line of different amps. I would use the real model numbers of the amps.
@kombatanarnisggmepresasleg313 жыл бұрын
Bauhaus/Daniel Ash used HH IC amps
@Heatfarmer3 ай бұрын
Oh, some one else got that. Don't get the mentioning of the Cure either.
@looking_33 Жыл бұрын
I think the hate is coming from a majority of viewers not expecting your style of playing with these amps, and the bands you mentioned. Probably people expecting a Hendrix/Page/Slash sort of thing. Maybe even EVH. Not sure. I thought it was a great video.
@curtisprice980623 күн бұрын
THE '73 MARSHALL SAYS ITS A JMP RIGHT ON ITS FACEPLATE, WHY ARE YOU SAYING IT IS A JTM????
@bulletproofprs3 жыл бұрын
JMP was overly bright for me (something I never day). Liked the JTM the best, 800 would be my second choice
@MrAtoz-jq5ry2 жыл бұрын
JMP Rules
@F-MK962 жыл бұрын
Is that a Jerry Cantrell Les Paul?
@LFODUTUBE Жыл бұрын
The JMP wins easily for my taste because it sounds a little sharper and more aggressive. The JTM is a little "soft." The plexi is too wooly. JCM800 is too fizzy. JMP is just perfect.
@robertrogers23952 жыл бұрын
JMP
@sempercompellis Жыл бұрын
what is a 73 JTM?? with a plexi faceplate-- holy handgrenaids!! was it a metal plate 73 JMP that they moded to JTM specs and for some reason put a 60s JMP plexi plate on it??? Ok now I am listening to you differentiating "PLEXI" from JMP. "we just played a JMP now let's try out a plexi".. my head is going to explode I THINK you have: Moded JMP (PA/Bass/Lead??) to JTM-45 specs???? Mid 70s JMP 2203 60s JMP 1959 JCM 800 2203
@dezionlion3 жыл бұрын
What year is the jmp?
@geardos24552 жыл бұрын
Where to start?? How about the metronome?? Jeez
@TasmanGuitarsAmps3 жыл бұрын
On those 4 input Marshall's it is impossible to have this drive if it is not past 7 volume, and that is frik'n LOUD. So Please say something about setup to guys who doesn't have a clue how to get that sound.
@TheKevbe4 жыл бұрын
JTM all the way. It has that midrange
@JayMaasRecording4 жыл бұрын
Poliszynel it’s so good!
@johnmarshall39033 жыл бұрын
It's not a JTM. Get your terminology correct.
@TheKevbe3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmarshall3903 right, it's MTJ
@lowqualityguitarvideos4 жыл бұрын
What power tubes in the jtm?
@arissp49502 жыл бұрын
why you left the metronome lmao
@HiHello-ku1fl3 жыл бұрын
The metronome is annoying as hell but great amps.
@colbymunn20472 жыл бұрын
AYE WHAT ABOUT THE JUBE, OLE CHAP?!
@colbymunn20472 жыл бұрын
Have you played on one? What do you think? I think I may buy one next week...but I can either buy a new one of those or a JCM800. Trying to mix on the other side of the stage and ABY for my live get up. I think it would mix well with my Orange Rockerverb 50. Would be helpful to know what you think! Thank you, dude!
@colbymunn20472 жыл бұрын
JCM800 2203X, THOUGH! Reissue. Those are my choices! If you have a better JCM800 in mind for year/time/vertical vs horizontal input LET ME KNOW, MY DAWG. I'll buy used if it makes sense. I'm just lost and live in Kansas. Defeater was cool as shit. You rule. Sorry for typing so goddamn much. HOLLA!
@bradwood68072 жыл бұрын
Ok, a few things… not to be a jerk, but this was supposed to be a “shootout” video. You don’t talk 2-5 min between amps, so the listener loses the sound of the last between lectures. Do the 5 min history section up front so we can learn or skip it and have the tracks directly on top of one-another with continuous switching back and forth to hear the voicings. If you insist on band settings to relay their sounds in a mix, you don’t use a stupid click track metronome that dominates the forefront and distracts. Other points: your 2 hole JMP is the EXACT same amp as your ‘80 JCM, with only cosmetic headshell differences. It is not at all a completely different amp as you stated. You just dialed them differently snd you use waaaaaay to much prescence on those 2 amps for the bright amps they are. To each their own on dialing, but your JMP was jangly and anemic, not at all the tone mine has. Too much prescence, maxed or near maxed gain, and low master does not give the representation of what these smps sound like, esp under a horrible click track and 2 min lecture interruptions. Nice collection otherwise.
@Boogieplex3 жыл бұрын
Cool video,until the atari pong style drums kicked in. Really,what were you thinking adding that?….lol. Nice amp collection tho. No comment on wich amp i liked since you didn’t showcase the amps’ response very well with that strumming…no offense. Also, a 1973 JTM is like an iPhone from 1923……wrong era,they dont exist.
@jannatinkarlen87023 жыл бұрын
Why do the jmp sound very different with jcm here
@JayMaasRecording3 жыл бұрын
They are all so different, literally every Marshall
@metalguru35583 жыл бұрын
@@JayMaasRecording those two are the same circuits up until 1983 but some jmps had better quality caps. tubes make a big difference and how the amp is biased of course does to. Also the electronics values drift over time leading to a different sound.
@Heatfarmer3 ай бұрын
Bauhaus used plexis? He used a HH VS amp. I seriously doubt that Sonic Youth used them either. And The Cure has anything but a plexi sound. So apart from this bullshit with the JMP/JTM everything about the users of the amps is completely off. Who are you trying to fool here?
@Paul-dw2cl3 жыл бұрын
is there a low-wattage SLP clone ?
@kimseniorb3 жыл бұрын
studio vintage is 20w. 1987x is 50w
@azevedo6662 жыл бұрын
Why the metronome dudeee?
@JayMaasRecording2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, timing amirite?
@azevedo6662 жыл бұрын
@@JayMaasRecording d drums sound absolutely fine for that matter;) anyway i do like the video man. Realy good job
@JayMaasRecording2 жыл бұрын
@@azevedo666 thanks homie, forever playing. FWIW, I totally should have turned the click off haha
@aperreado10 күн бұрын
Me suenan todos iguales
@2006axis7 ай бұрын
Plexi sounded best to me
@starcloud49593 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between a JTM and a JPM? as you didn't explain, just for us dummys that don't know.huh?
@shreddedbylight2 жыл бұрын
A JTM45 is Marshall's first amp and the first amp stack ever. It was made directly from THE bassman circuit and crafted into something better. The JMP is after the Super Lead(Plexi) and is the dubbed the quintessential rock amp of the 80s and early 90s. The JTM has 5881s currently(originally KT66 power tubes) while every amp after that is supplied with EL34s
@pigpog23072 жыл бұрын
Why include the metronome in the audio ? … kinda ruins it .