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Can you move Windows 11 from one PC to another... Let's find out!

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@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 2 жыл бұрын
The ending is one of the reason I watch this channel. The mistakes that anyone could make help us learn as much as, if not more than, a video where all goes according to plan. Thanks, Jay.
@user-ck6bf3ke1w
@user-ck6bf3ke1w 6 ай бұрын
True that man!
@user-ck6bf3ke1w
@user-ck6bf3ke1w 6 ай бұрын
By allowing someone to make his, or her own mistakes, it causes them to snap out of 'Drone-Mode', where they're continuously looking to their trainer/boss for all the answers, even after having heard the solution several times. They almost immediately start to think much more critically, and they start learning four times faster than before. I agree, it's nice to see the human side of Jay.
@cjmiller69
@cjmiller69 2 жыл бұрын
Jays face of thinking is the mark of everyone when they can’t remember what they do regularly
@adamtajhassam9188
@adamtajhassam9188 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Jay got messed w Microsoft and deleted one of his partitions..
@andrewmcewan9145
@andrewmcewan9145 2 жыл бұрын
You have to enable pci-e bifurcation to use those multiple drive cards In a x16 slot.
@Jared01
@Jared01 2 жыл бұрын
This, 100%.
@tsuki2000
@tsuki2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jared01 scam
@seedz5132
@seedz5132 2 жыл бұрын
Was pretty much gonna say the same thing : pcie bifurcation
@sterbens1177
@sterbens1177 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had the same issue but that only workings if you can bifurcation slots other than slot 1
@Jared01
@Jared01 2 жыл бұрын
@@tsuki2000 yeah I reported them already. The 100% was to Bifurcation.
@ZonTrillion
@ZonTrillion 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can
@stratogustav
@stratogustav Жыл бұрын
LOL!
@bruh-a-nator7845
@bruh-a-nator7845 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saving me 16mins
@SunBearDabs
@SunBearDabs Жыл бұрын
Only windows 11? Or do you know if windows 10 is possible
@jackxiong512
@jackxiong512 8 ай бұрын
Only 115 likes? Let me change that
@ijdin
@ijdin 7 ай бұрын
​@@SunBearDabsworks with both, could he tricky if going from like an I3 to an I9
@deminybs
@deminybs 2 жыл бұрын
Bookmarked for 4 years from now when I'm forced off win 10 🤣🤣
@tj71520
@tj71520 2 жыл бұрын
I will be upgrading to pop os at that point
@deminybs
@deminybs 2 жыл бұрын
@@tj71520 I have an older drive with Linux cinnamon and mint on it but I literally only have a jetpack for internet and the wifi dongles I got aren't compatible with Linux so I pretty much hit an instant roadblock lol I'm not able to "get" anything...
@jaghine
@jaghine 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna be back here if I need to when I change from (same make) X470/3600 to B550/5800X - hopefully won't be 4 years, mind...
@stoned9017
@stoned9017 2 жыл бұрын
Right! Lol
@jchoneandonly
@jchoneandonly 2 жыл бұрын
Months*
@dimples282
@dimples282 2 жыл бұрын
Actually pretty impressive how both Windows 10 and by extension 11 have become quite resilient to complete system transplants to the point of going through the UPnP part of OOBE again to re-orient themselves. Windows 7 and earlier would just *freak* and go right to BSOD if you attempted that.
@11creeper45
@11creeper45 2 жыл бұрын
Not really i have taken hard drive from a windows 7 laptop and put it in to my desktop and it booted but there was some resolution issues
@darranrowe174
@darranrowe174 2 жыл бұрын
@@11creeper45 Originally depended on the driver for the boot device. Windows recorded it in the registry and would only attempt to boot off of that. If it was similar enough then you could get away with it, otherwise you would just get the inaccessible boot device error. These days, it is possible to have big changes in the hardware as long as any required drivers are present in the Windows driver store.
@darranrowe174
@darranrowe174 2 жыл бұрын
@@executor32 Mhm. But your comment is getting into territory not implied by this video. That is, not just a simple drive transplant. Also remember, this is what the Windows RE stuff is there for. I have had a couple of cases where I have transplanted a drive, the install failed to boot, Windows RE kicked in and then startup repair fixed it.
@zeeninetynine
@zeeninetynine Жыл бұрын
Fucking love that. Makes hardware upgrade so easy instead of dreading it and then taking months to get everything where and how I like it.
@granttrek1113
@granttrek1113 10 ай бұрын
what's impressive is how they managed to make it not be able to do that for so long
@jlewis8521
@jlewis8521 2 жыл бұрын
Jay if you have a 3d printer, which i assume you do. Just do a quick cylinder design to go around that m.2 adapter, and then have a slot in the cylinder that matches the port so the drive can slide through the cylinder into the port. Just have the drive sticking out like 1/4. This will give you the protection you need until such docking exists.
@Hard0milk03
@Hard0milk03 2 жыл бұрын
good idea
@LostSoul-dp6gb
@LostSoul-dp6gb 2 жыл бұрын
And it's an excellent excuse to go back to the Tustin Microcenter to go get a 3d printer. :)
@jamegumb7298
@jamegumb7298 2 жыл бұрын
M.2 docks? They exist already, no need to improvise.
@vedranb87
@vedranb87 2 жыл бұрын
Another option, or in addition to that (they're not mutually exclusive), put some blu-tack on the bottom of the base to prevent it from tipping over.
@Neil3D
@Neil3D 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone reading, if you've got bitlocker enabled on a drive which is enabled by default now on a clean build of Win11, be super careful about moving a drive between systems as it'll flag something and knock the drive off. You might/should be able to get the recovery keys from your MS account, but maybe not, but you'll get the same issue as Jay had there with the drive not showing up in the foreign system. It won't even go back into the original build without the recovery key being entered.
@SurrenderNein
@SurrenderNein 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing that I'm not the only person who goofs like that gives me an immense amount of psychological reassurance. Thanks Jay!
@420southcitykid
@420southcitykid 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, are you selling any of those gpus from that truck load you and Phil stole? Lol 😆
@ClellBiggs
@ClellBiggs 2 жыл бұрын
I've done this a lot. It's amazing how often it works without any issues. Even when you get the bug that places the boot files on a different drive than where you installed Windows you can still transfer the install to a different PC so long as you have both drives connected. Also, whenever you want to install Windows remove all of the other drives except the one you want to install it to so you don't have to worry about the boot files bug. Learned that the hard way.
@Davidx_117
@Davidx_117 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think boot files going on another drive that's connected is a bug, I believe it's just how Windows works but it's very annoying and like you said always unplug all except the boot drive when installing Windows (unless you'll be keep any secondary drives for a long time and don't care if boot files go on another drive)
@pishni259
@pishni259 Жыл бұрын
@@adamd1347 did you ever get any driver incompatibilities doing this? Leftover crud from old system? I just did this with new CPU motherboard and RAM upgrade but was surprised didn't even know this would work. I've got Macrium also but forgot to try the cloning😜
@pishni259
@pishni259 Жыл бұрын
@@adamd1347 ok thanks. I went from Intel to AMD build so I did uninstall all the old mb and chipset or other drivers just to be sure. I also ended up not running from the same SSD and basically cloned it to a bigger drive and set BIOS to use new one. Running clean and was lot less painful cutover than I thought it would be
@zackmatey1793
@zackmatey1793 2 жыл бұрын
Jay - Steve has revealed that you were behind EVGA's stolen truckload of GPUs. You're on the run now
@flimermithrandir
@flimermithrandir 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. They even have evidence, Video and they did tell us how you did make a Deal with Micro Center as well. It all makes Sense. You cant run. Kappa (Sarcasm)
@godlikemachine645
@godlikemachine645 2 жыл бұрын
*FBI OPEN UP!!!*
@genfoch01
@genfoch01 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree the evidence provided by GN is pretty ironclad
@bryanhoyos5543
@bryanhoyos5543 2 жыл бұрын
So you guys are the ones bother jay huh. Poor man just trying to make content leave the man alone
@zackmatey1793
@zackmatey1793 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanhoyos5543 Steve commands us
@I_am_Allan
@I_am_Allan 2 жыл бұрын
Needed: Someone to drive the getaway car. Job: Going to Jay's office, and stealing a few video cards or full on systems. 🤣🤣
@prodeous
@prodeous 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to use that PCIE NVMe card, for the second NVMe drive, you need to split the PCIe slot "bifurcated" into a 4x4x4x4 (or 4x4) , rather then full 8x or 16x slot.. Else it will only see the first drive.
@ISO-ex2lg
@ISO-ex2lg 2 жыл бұрын
Usually those 2nd or 3rd PCIEx16 slots are just x4 connected. Normally x8 or x16 (electric wired) cards run on x4 Slots (with reduced speed). But cards for multiple NVMEs are probably different, hence the bifurcation.
@lexatwo
@lexatwo 2 жыл бұрын
Looking closely at the video @9:04 mark it could be seen that in BIOS PCIEX16_4 slot is set to x4 bandwidth. By the looks of it ROG HYPER M.2 CARD is a fancy but dumb thing that requires bifurcation for second drive to work. At the very least I don't see any PCIE commutator chip on it like ASM1812 or PLX8748 that are typically used for this kind of duties. It means that (a) it hadn't had a chance to work for second M.2 drive as slot was in x4 mode - so simply no lines available for second M.2 to work with and (b) in case this slot supports x8 or x16 mode it would also require bifurcation support enabled for this slot (assuming that it is supported at all - as typically bifurcation is only available on CPU-connected PCIEX slots) and set to 4x4 or x4x4x8 - just like you wrote in your comment above.
@Innnsanity
@Innnsanity Жыл бұрын
I got a question I'm hoping you can answer. Here's the story. 7 Years ago bought a PC. Last Year upgraded to an SSD (keeping HDD for backup). HDD was cloned to SSD. I use SSD as main boot. Want to buy new PC to modernize CPU/GPU and all that. New PC will have it's own SSD with Win11. I plan on using this new SSD with W11 as boot drive. Can I install the old drive to keep my games and files? Then also maybe transfer some of those files onto the new drive. (Both are M2. but new MB has 3 slots)
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive Жыл бұрын
​@@Innnsanity yes, I moved my Steam game library from a laptop hdd to ssd, then simply moved the ssd to my desktop build. Look up data migration tools and pages on using Windows robocopy if you copy folders onto fresh disk partitions.
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive Жыл бұрын
​@@ISO-ex2lg the bifurcation of PCIEx16 slot is assigning limited PCIE lanes away from the GPU slot to a 2nd NVME x4 drive slot. It happened with 2nd drive in Comet Lake due to limited PCIE3 connectivity. Less problematic was AMD PCIE4 bifurcation as the GPU had enough bandwidth. Of course with iGPU all lanes may be going to NVME PCIE4 4 slot card.
@johnmclane4115
@johnmclane4115 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay! Steve Burke says you have a few extra GPU's!🤣 I've been a good boy this year!🎄
@VraerynDaDragon
@VraerynDaDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Used to do this a lot in a PC service job. One test drive with Windows installed could be reused numerous times. Eventually though, it will collect too many drivers, eventually getting something that renders it unstable on other systems, and we'll have to start it fresh again.
@mikakorhonen5715
@mikakorhonen5715 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to make one master drive and use only copies from it in fixed PCs?
@ayuchanayuko
@ayuchanayuko 2 жыл бұрын
Force an OOBE so Windows unloads all previous drivers and re-sets the drivers for the current hardware. Paragon Adaptive Restore used to do this pre-Win10. Very useful for when you go from SATA to IDE mode to RAID mode to external USB drive and so on.
@JustALittleRTX
@JustALittleRTX 2 жыл бұрын
When you swap a drive from one pc to another, do you have to uninstall all the old MB/drivers? How can you easily do that?
@pishni259
@pishni259 Жыл бұрын
@@JustALittleRTX exact same thing I was wondering is there a bunch of junk files and incompatible drivers left when doing this kind of swap
@15fakeaccount
@15fakeaccount 2 жыл бұрын
Did you remember set 4x4x4x4x splitting for that PCIe-port? Anyway, changing platforms with current date Windows installation works just fine, even Greg Salazar were claiming that it's very bad thing to do. Also there shouldn't be even any problems with activation if old installation had valid Windows 10 license.
@darranrowe174
@darranrowe174 2 жыл бұрын
@@Davidx_117 These days you can just tell Windows to swap the activation if you have the key linked to a Microsoft account. But in general, if you have a key linked to a set of hardware, Windows will try to activate automatically.
@Davidx_117
@Davidx_117 2 жыл бұрын
@@darranrowe174 Swapping activation only works so many times, at least in my experience (might be because it was an OEM key, retail might be unlimited swaps or at least more swaps than OEM)
@darranrowe174
@darranrowe174 2 жыл бұрын
@@Davidx_117 The whole point of paying more for retail is that it isn't tied to a particular machine. One of the main stipulations for a retail key is that you are always able to move it. For OEM, it always depends on what type of OEM key you have. Vendor OEM keys have limits like being tied to a single motherboard or limited activations.
@Durkhead
@Durkhead 2 жыл бұрын
You can move keys as many times as you want some times you just have to type it in again if you move from one system to another oem or retail doesn't matter
@Davidx_117
@Davidx_117 2 жыл бұрын
​@@darranrowe174 Wasn't aware (or just didn't remember) that retail keys allowed that, definitely going to keep that in mind for my next build. Thanks
@The_Cyber_System
@The_Cyber_System 2 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic to see. My biggest concern with upgrading to Windows 11 was the question of what would happen if some of my hardware died and I had to put my m.2 in another system? From the little I understood about Windows cryptography and TPM I assumed the drive would not be able to be decrypted and read without the original TPM module, but according to your findings that's absolutely not the case. Good to know.
@stoobertb
@stoobertb 2 жыл бұрын
It still is the case. The drive decryption keys are stored in the TPM, BUT drive encryption isn't enabled by default when installing from media. If you enabled BitLocker then you would be screwed if you didn't have the recovery key (unless you used a hardware device instead of TPM for the decryption key) The TPM requirement is for secure boot so that Microsoft's keys can be stored and checked on startup to ensure that no critical system files have been tampered with.
@technicalfool
@technicalfool 2 жыл бұрын
As others have mentioned, stuff like drive risers tend to need the slot configuring to 4+4 (for an electrically x8 slot) or 4+4+4+4 (for a "proper" x16). Splits the slot up and *should* allow you to mix and match drives as much as you like.
@G4MERtheGREY
@G4MERtheGREY 2 жыл бұрын
The timing of this was perfect. I have my PC in pieces right now doing a motherboard and CPU upgrade. And yes, I had windows 11 installed on an M.2. Thanks Jay!
@proFFGaming2
@proFFGaming2 Жыл бұрын
Hi please me how you moved you windows 11 into new pc. I am building new pc with new ram, new cpu, new motherboard. And i have installed windows 11 on m.2 gen 4 ssd in old pc. I only have one ssd. So how I will move my windows 11 to new pc.
@G4MERtheGREY
@G4MERtheGREY Жыл бұрын
@@proFFGaming2 You can just plug your m.2 into the new motherboard and it should work. *However*, I would recommend doing a fresh Windows install. You can download the installer from the Microsoft website to a USB flash drive.
@proFFGaming2
@proFFGaming2 Жыл бұрын
@@G4MERtheGREY ok i will try this if it doesn't work well then I will do the fresh install
@IIPAGOII
@IIPAGOII Жыл бұрын
​​@@proFFGaming2 hey, how did it go? I am just about to this with SSD, simply plug it in new computer?(Win11 ) first I will detach windows key from my old rig and activate it on a new computer whe. Windows will boot but the main question is if it boot 😂Appreciate confirmation it works like on the video.
@proFFGaming2
@proFFGaming2 Жыл бұрын
@@IIPAGOII i worked normally no problem happened. If your windows doesn't activate reply here.
@coinman1972
@coinman1972 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jay, for taking us along for the ride. Yes, This exact situation has happened to me at least twice on other people's systems. Glad to see it's a thing.
@robohunter-2144
@robohunter-2144 2 жыл бұрын
Jay! Thanks for doing what you are doing! Your videos are keeping me going especially right now since I can’t have a pc to do things with myself! So thanks and keep up the great work!
@cyclone5299
@cyclone5299 2 жыл бұрын
This is why a lot of people are hesitant to come over to PC from a Console. They just want to play there Games but wind up with all the added hassles that come with the PC experience. I would definitely suggest a Pre Built computer as anyones first PC. That way it’s already configured properly in the Bios and all the other components and most software will come pre installed. I did that and it made the transition so much easier.
@MattisProbably
@MattisProbably 2 жыл бұрын
I found out that this works by accident :) When Windows 11 launched I installed it on my 7700K machine as an upgrade. But a few weeks later I upgraded to a 5800X. I wanted to install Windows 11 on my new NVMe SSD but I forgot to go to the UEFI to change the boot order. The new mainboard defaulted to my older SATA SSD with the Windows 11 install. Windows launched just fine for me as well. But I decided to do a fresh install on the new SSD anyway.
@retrosimon9843
@retrosimon9843 2 жыл бұрын
Good thing you did as in the past going from one platform to another like that could lower performance by up to 13%. I haven't seen tests to see if windows 11 behaves the same way but better to be safe.
@olo398
@olo398 2 жыл бұрын
gigaBRAIN
@MattisProbably
@MattisProbably 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrosimon9843 Oh yes absolutely. I always want a fresh Windows installation when I make major changes to the hardware. And it was worth it, all benchmarks are in line with other results I found online :)
@MattisProbably
@MattisProbably 2 жыл бұрын
@@olo398 More like galaxy brain sized brain fart... But hey at least nothing could have broken from that and it was a confirmation that the hardware works.
@Louis-kb3jh
@Louis-kb3jh 2 жыл бұрын
Jay we know you stole that truck of graphics cards from EVGA!
@Eidolon2003
@Eidolon2003 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you have to enable PCIe bifurcation to put multiple drives on those M.2 carrier cards?
@tomh3856
@tomh3856 2 жыл бұрын
yes, yes you do.
@shawnjacobs1479
@shawnjacobs1479 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t be the only person whose excited for December and your everyday videos! My morning drive to works are so boring!!!
@Hirome_Satou
@Hirome_Satou 9 ай бұрын
This is why I love your channel so much, you've helped me more than you could possibly know on a myriad of tech issues. So many other youtubers and websites I've gone to have said to never do this, especially when switching from Intel or AMD or vice verse. I've done it myself between two intel systems, but after building my first custom PC myself, and switching from Intel to AMD, I've been iffy on whether or not I should hotswap my C drive. Seeing you do it here with absolutely no issue, and hearing you say that you can do it with the same result across CPU and Motherboard brands fills me with confidence that it will work precisely because I trust your opinion after your repeatedly showing the entire process yourself and showing definitively that things work exactly how you say they will.
@lurick
@lurick 2 жыл бұрын
3:15, you can hold Del instead of spamming it :)
@neostark1480
@neostark1480 2 жыл бұрын
Spamming feels nice
@lurchy666
@lurchy666 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on motherboard, holding it down can give keyboard error
@michaelbuehler8768
@michaelbuehler8768 2 жыл бұрын
Pci-e bifurcation is a setting you have to set for the pci-e slot where the hyper-x is plugged in, or you will only see one drive.
@vollmerm1
@vollmerm1 2 жыл бұрын
100% this. I have the PCIEx3 version of this that supports 4 drives and saw the same thing before bifurcating the slot.
@edwardallenthree
@edwardallenthree 2 жыл бұрын
Was so frustrating to watch,. because you are right of course. Also, you can't hot plug nvme USB drives like that... As he learned when he unplugged the USB device and plugged it back in.
@RedStyla
@RedStyla 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardallenthree sorry, what cant you just USB plug an M.2?
@edwardallenthree
@edwardallenthree 2 жыл бұрын
@@RedStyla yes! But you can't plug the nvme in while the drive is connected. USB is hotplugable. Nvme (in this case) is not. It's subtle, but this along with the very real risk of the drive breaking is why this particular nvme USB adapter is a bad deal.
@jamesdavis2359
@jamesdavis2359 2 жыл бұрын
Love going back to these old videos. Hadn't seen this, and really good information to know.
@LordToulon
@LordToulon 2 жыл бұрын
Jay I started watching your channel just before the pandemic started because I was looking for reviews on PC parts I was looking at. It was the first PC I had built in almost 15 years. Since then I have watched every video, subscribed to RTFM, and entered every contest. For some reason I jumped on Twitter today (which I almost never use) and found a thread and went down a rabbit hole of someone trashing you because they can't read. So I came here to say just keep doing you. Your content is great. I appreciate all your opinions and thoughts, and these giveaways are fantastic when it's such a pain to get parts out there right now. You can't please everyone, but the ones you don't please apparently can't read. Keep up the good work!
@crimsonize313
@crimsonize313 2 жыл бұрын
pretty sure he just needed to enable PCIe bifurcation in his BIOS to get them both working in that enclosure
@FARBerserker
@FARBerserker 2 жыл бұрын
Even Vista did the drive moving relatively painless already and windumb has only gotten more resilient in that regard. Just one tip for everybody: When you do a clean install of Windows, DISCONNECT ALL OTHER DRIVES. Windumb likes to put different partitions and parts of itself on different drives for some stupid reason.
@KnockOut101inc
@KnockOut101inc 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that took me too long to figure out XD I had 2 M.2 drives, and when installing windows on the new one i kept getting intallation errors. Found out I had to remove the first m.2 and install
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 2 жыл бұрын
I have a theory about the external M.2 drive adapter. Jay claims it's Hot Swap capable, and I'm pretty sure it isn't. At least not the way he used it. Doing some searching I found what looks like the exact same model of M.2 dock and looking at the manufacturers site I found the instructions Turns out that you have to insert the M.2 drive with the dock unattached, and only after that connect the dock to the USB port. It's still hot swap of a kind, just not the way Jay tried to do it. Also before removing the drive the OS should be told to detach the drive just like you do with any kinds of USB attached drive, and should also do with true Hot Swap capable drives. After that the dock should be detached from the USB port before the drive is removed from the dock. Thing is hot swappable drive connectors all have one thing in common and that is the power and signal connection timing. The first pin to make contact is Ground. This is followed by the signal pins and the last will be Power. That way when you attach a drive it will be grounded before the signal pins connect which protects both the drive and the controller from damage. Power is connected after all other pins and allows the drives controller to power up in a controlled manner with no wild fluctuations on the signal pins or open circuits. The M.2 edge connector is not configured in this way, instead all the pins make contact almost, but not quite at the same time. It's still possible to make a hot swap capable dock for it, but it's not as straight forward as it is for a interface intended for it. I can see two obvious ways to implement this, one being to have a switch or other sensor that detect when the M.2 device bottoms out in the connector and only apply power after this happens. The other way would be to monitor the ground and power pins for a change in impedance and only apply power some time after this was detected and hope that the drive has been fully seated by then. The advantage of the second approach is that there is no extra sensor or switch needed. These are things that could fail and add complexity. The disadvantage is that if the user is fapping about the drive might not be fully seated when the drive power is applied. Alternatively you can let the controller take more time between detection and applying power, but any more than a second or so and the user may get impatient and yank the drive thinking the insertion wasn't detected. A third way would be to have a switch on the dock that you use to turn on the power only after the drive has been securely inserted. I found several M.2 USB docking stations that used this approach, but the one Jay used isn't among those.
@Tomahaw6
@Tomahaw6 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate you showing the struggle and how you think outside of the case to try things that I learn from
@TheBrinkofDestruction
@TheBrinkofDestruction 2 жыл бұрын
We caught you jay! We know you stole the truckload of graphics cards >.< -GN Steve
@johnsherby9130
@johnsherby9130 2 жыл бұрын
STEVE IS ON TO YOU! Gamers nexus has accused you of stealing a truckload of cards from EVGA Just thought I’d let you know
@tiger_icecoldlive6762
@tiger_icecoldlive6762 2 жыл бұрын
I have upgraded my PC from a Core i7 6800K to a Ryzen 9 3900x and I just have transferred my NVMe SSD with Windows 10 from the old motherboard to the new one and it just worked out of the box! Of course I have uninstalled the old chipset and on-board peripherals drivers first and installed all the needed drivers afterwards. It works like a charm! A few weeks later I have upgraded that Windows 10 installation with Windows 11. Also no problems at all! Long gone are those times where it was pain in the butt if you wanted to change your hardware!
@tiger_icecoldlive6762
@tiger_icecoldlive6762 2 жыл бұрын
@JayzTwoCents What’s that? Oo
@BangertonCooler
@BangertonCooler Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting my beginner worries to rest. Bought a prebuilt, building my own from scratch. Thanks!
@privxete4089
@privxete4089 Жыл бұрын
Good toknow that SSD Card, can be switched. My motherboard had ram failure
@White_5tar
@White_5tar 2 жыл бұрын
Love these type of videos Jay. It really shows that even after all your years of experience with PCs these issues still happen, and your thought process on how you fix the issues.
@retrosimon9843
@retrosimon9843 2 жыл бұрын
Swapping drives between systems like this, particularly AMD to Intel and vice versa, can negatively impact performance. Multiple channels have done benchmarks in the past on this. If this remains the case with windows 11 needs to be tested.
@jasongreen2745
@jasongreen2745 2 жыл бұрын
Could you possibly turn the camera around so we can see what's in your shop? I have heard a rumor that there may be a big pallet of graphics cards there.
@photonwerewolf9740
@photonwerewolf9740 2 жыл бұрын
Last week I finally found a motherboard and cpu compatible to work with my PC (the motherboard died while on normal operation last month.) and I was worried about what I was going to do to get my hard drives and data to behave with the new hardware. I was super concerned when windows booted and it was giving a "preparing devices" message like in this video. To think it was all normal, lol. First experience with this sort of thing for me, but glad guides like this exist!
@turdpeterson73
@turdpeterson73 2 жыл бұрын
I upgraded to windows 11 on my 9700k system, then upgraded that system to a 12700k, the only thing i moved over was i kept my ram and 3080ti and m.2 drives that already had windows 11 and all my games, it booted right up wand worked without issue, all i had to do after was go to microsoft website and reactivate windows due to hardware change
@bobb3rdown676
@bobb3rdown676 2 жыл бұрын
What I take from this is always know where your files are going lmao
@felixcorreajr
@felixcorreajr 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, I heard Steve said that your the mastermind behind the GPU heist and Phil was your accomplice. 🤣
@captmalreynolds1
@captmalreynolds1 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue with the Hyper M.2 card, have to set the motherboard PCIE slot to RAID x8 mode even if you aren't using RAID. This enables the card to bifurcate the lanes and allocate them to each drive.
@rolandssavdons7993
@rolandssavdons7993 2 жыл бұрын
Stop stealing GPUs, Jay and Phil
@BenJ2827
@BenJ2827 2 жыл бұрын
Moved my drive with Win 11 to a new 12900K build and apart from Epson scanner not liking it everything else was A1 in seconds!
@markdavenportjr5129
@markdavenportjr5129 2 жыл бұрын
This is good to know since I will be planning to upgrade my drive solution to full nvme m.2 solution instead of mixed for when I get my next PC next year. :)
@JendaLinda
@JendaLinda 2 жыл бұрын
Actually you don't need TPM to just run Win11. The check is done only during installation. Win11 can be installed on a potato using some workarounds. You don't need to worry about the Windows licence. As long as Windows was activated on the motherboard before, it's registered on MS servers and Windows will activate automatically.
@exolivewire78
@exolivewire78 2 жыл бұрын
@JayzTwoCents can you try this same thing from a machine that is able to install Windows 11 to a machine too old to install Windows 11?
@everestcomputer
@everestcomputer 2 жыл бұрын
it works. ive personally put it on as old as a 2500 and i know someone with it working on a c2d.
@TheMajorLeagueGinger
@TheMajorLeagueGinger 2 жыл бұрын
I've used the same key for windows since I bought a prebuilt 4 years ago. I've swapped cpu and mobos 3 times and never got the activation problems
@paulraw
@paulraw 2 жыл бұрын
I think if you sign in with an e-mail address the key is assigned to that, as long as you sign in with the same email the key will work
@TheMajorLeagueGinger
@TheMajorLeagueGinger 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulraw that would work make sense
@The_Keeper
@The_Keeper 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulraw Up to a point, yes. If you move the install too many times within a certain time-period (I think its 12 months) MS "deactivates" the key, and you have to contact them to get it reactivated.
@paulraw
@paulraw 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Keeper - I didn't know that
@retrosimon9843
@retrosimon9843 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Keeper Yes. I had to call a number and do the whole manual installation id dance with a talking computer lol
@AtomicOverdrive
@AtomicOverdrive 2 жыл бұрын
Would really like to see a video on migrating a Win11 install from a HDD to a SSD/NVME..
@scotrick333
@scotrick333 2 жыл бұрын
Minitool Shadow Maker is free and easy to use. Walks you through the steps and reminds you to take out your old drive before you install and boot from the new drive. (There's complications if you have both connected and try to boot)
@garino881
@garino881 2 жыл бұрын
Had the same "fatal error" error as Jay when using an external USB to NVMe adapter. Put the drive directly on the motherboard and it worked no problems. In my case, it was because the adapter did not fully support the NVMe drive and it was being reported as having a critical error when in reality it worked just fine.
@meganesenpai
@meganesenpai 2 жыл бұрын
I just moved my Windows 11 SSD from the old main board to the new one (both Ryzen) and it worked really fine.
@mrh5303
@mrh5303 2 жыл бұрын
Gamers Nexus claims that the truckload of EGVA GPUs was stolen by Jayz Twocents and sold to Micro Center for their Grand Opening. Apparently Phil Twocents was his accomplice.
@nunonielsen1647
@nunonielsen1647 2 жыл бұрын
It does work, but for best performance you should always do a clean install. Hardware Unboxed just made a video about it 😊
@SquintyGears
@SquintyGears 2 жыл бұрын
drive clones through usb adapters don't "just work" (not for cloning an OS at least, normal data never has issues) the destination drive has to be in the motherboard and the source on the USB. otherwise it won't boot, either because of some windows bs or because of partitions not getting recognized as bootable.
@hammer9856
@hammer9856 2 жыл бұрын
Discovered this the hard way too... I have yet to find a way to properly clone a NVMe boot drive with these usb adapters and then get it to boot when installed in the mb. If anyone knows a work around let us know.
@SquintyGears
@SquintyGears 2 жыл бұрын
@@hammer9856 it ends up working if the destination drive is in its final position. You just have to keep trying...... After 10 times it'll work.... Yeah it's that ridiculous. There's no reason it shouldn't work but it always fucks up
@carbon_no6
@carbon_no6 2 жыл бұрын
Microsoft: upgrade to Windows 11! Me: I’m going to go from Windows 10 by upgrading to Windows 7!
@cody2930
@cody2930 2 жыл бұрын
Jay we know you did it. We know you stole the truck of EVGA GPUs and sold them to microcenter for your video. Tech Jesus has figured you out and alerted EVGA
@LaczPro
@LaczPro 2 жыл бұрын
14:44 shows why we love Jay's videos.
@BansheeBunny
@BansheeBunny 2 жыл бұрын
7:48 You're inserting your knowledge of PCIe 4.0 GPUs with 3.0 riser cables on a 4.0 slot into PCIe backwards compatibility. The motherboard you moved the M.2 adapter into doesn't support PCIe bifurcation.
@herewestand
@herewestand 2 жыл бұрын
depending on the m.2 expansion cards, some have be run using bifurcation mode, where teh slot is split up in 8x and 8x.
@scottbutler5
@scottbutler5 2 жыл бұрын
"Who would be computer savvy enough to move their boot drive to a new system but computer illiterate enough to not reinstall Windows in the new system?" --me like 2 days ago when another channel mentioned people trying this.
@mojoneko8303
@mojoneko8303 2 жыл бұрын
I moved Win10 pro a month ago from a 10+ year old PC still on a AM3 platform to a brand new AM4 build with no problems. I just had to re enter the activation key I used on the original OS install and it activated. After that I migrated the OS from the original SSD it was on to a 1TB NVME I installed on the MOBO. The new PC sure is a lot perkier than the old PC. : )
@Justyz311
@Justyz311 2 жыл бұрын
I actually tried this with my 2.5"ssd, just removed it from my pc and put it inside my old laptop. Works well even tho the laptop is not supposed to be compatible with win11.
@carsormyr
@carsormyr 2 жыл бұрын
Why Jay? Why did you hijack that truckload of GPUs?
@christmasknight
@christmasknight 2 жыл бұрын
Easier than stealing a truckload of video cards, eh guys?
@Willee64
@Willee64 6 ай бұрын
Going to replace my A520M in the next day or so and stumbled into this vid. Didn't even search for it, just popped up. Answered my q without asking. Thx 4 your vid!
@aangman007
@aangman007 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Jayz Twocents, you and your accomplice Phil are going down for that EVGA truckload. We have it on reliable Steve knowledge what you've done
@alexandreesquenet3736
@alexandreesquenet3736 2 жыл бұрын
I needed that info! Thanks Jayz! Was the Win 11 license still ok too?
@Simon-ph1nf
@Simon-ph1nf 2 жыл бұрын
7:20 Phil slowly pans to the side to protect everyone while Jay shows plans for world domination
@deansmith4752
@deansmith4752 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the world of upgrading ANYTHING on a computer. my RAID failed, my NAS took 4 hours to get prepared
@nielderfp
@nielderfp 2 жыл бұрын
There's nothing like the anticipation of waiting for the BIOS screen when you boot for the first time.
@grindio9560
@grindio9560 2 жыл бұрын
Jay, big fan of your videos, watched your videos to build my 1st PC when the pandemic started, I think I have a good idea for you to make a video about Ryzen that I haven't seen anyone come across.
@ChrisTarling
@ChrisTarling 2 жыл бұрын
Jay love your work! 2 things 1st Can you install windows 11 on a TPM device then move the SSD over to a PC with out TPM. 2nd do you think your adapter is dogy or is it the m.2?
@frogz
@frogz 2 жыл бұрын
jay!!! give the gpus back, why did you do it???
@BryantAvant
@BryantAvant 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need tpm or secure boot. Just a bios that supports UEFI. I've moved mine to many computers including a i5-2410m laptop that had UEFI.
@witcnshum
@witcnshum 2 жыл бұрын
When i changed mine, in msconfig, I kept seeing my core count change now and again between my new cpu and my old one - performance like cinibench kept changing . I had to do a completely new install
@SmarterThanAll
@SmarterThanAll 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's always better to do a fresh install
@JTBivens
@JTBivens 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you went through all of that just to not have but one game on there lol. - I wonder if the m.2 dongle was faulty. Because your link is not working and I do not see that one when I search for them.
@krig6230
@krig6230 2 жыл бұрын
very informative video jay really helped me, thanks for sharing
@capicolaspicy
@capicolaspicy 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel recently, I love the way you present information! Messing around with PCs and various other forms of electronics for over 50 years but no longer full-time nor anywhere near as deep into it is you are, so it's a great resource to be able to learn new tricks from your videos! Thank you and keep on posting!
@amigatommy7
@amigatommy7 2 жыл бұрын
Not having any luck cloning a boot drive and moving that drive to a new build lately. It was sweet.
@ocelotxp
@ocelotxp 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, the m.2 adapter is the RIITOP NVMe to USB Docking Station Found it on Amazon for $30
@danielburgess1113
@danielburgess1113 2 жыл бұрын
the twitch follow requirement for the week 3 competition is not working I am allready following & it is not giving me the 2 entries so I have just entered as much as it will let me - thank you for running the competitions Jay you rock
@goku25jasongohan23
@goku25jasongohan23 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I am planning on making a whole new computer and bringing my old drives with me on windows 11. I am glad to know that it will work!
@raymondleepeterman8828
@raymondleepeterman8828 Жыл бұрын
I'm about to update my cpu and motherboard from an AMD a10 to a 12700k and this was a major concern for me but seeing how simple it was puts my mind at ease.
@planetary2180
@planetary2180 Жыл бұрын
Did it work?
@raymondleepeterman8828
@raymondleepeterman8828 Жыл бұрын
@@planetary2180 had no issues with the os once I fixed some minor stuff with my graphics card everything booted perfectly and first thing I got was the getting windows ready screen
@planetary2180
@planetary2180 Жыл бұрын
@@raymondleepeterman8828 What minor stuff? I'm planning to upgrade my cpu, motherboard, ram (to DDR5) but keep my GPU.
@MelitonBornales
@MelitonBornales 2 жыл бұрын
nice Jay! Thanks for doing what you are doing!
@Super900k
@Super900k 2 жыл бұрын
personally turning bitlocker is a pain in the ass, because when you are updating the bios as the TPM is on than the pc will lock up and will ask you for a 32 code passcode for your pc.
@DavidSchwegler
@DavidSchwegler 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Twocents. It has come to my attention that you may be in possession of a large truck containing EVGA GPUs. We have you red handed.
@makiwa
@makiwa 2 жыл бұрын
I've done it 5 times! One time was from Intel to AMD. Never had an issue. And it originally started out as Windows 7Pro in 2013, now Windows 10Pro. All on the same ticket! Oh, and I swapped from a 1TB HDD to a 1TB M.2 Nvme via cloning.... (Still have the Original Win7Pro Disc even).
@unixtool
@unixtool 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Jay. With your investigation I fixed my issue with another nvme that I did the same thing you did. Customer data is priceless. So I bought some merch. Cheers and thanks again.
@InvokerUntold
@InvokerUntold 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I found this channel earlier, Jay's reaction to unnecessary work, priceless😂
@NebulaLuna
@NebulaLuna 2 жыл бұрын
I heard you knocked over an EVGA GPU shipment from a reliable source, is this true?
@illuminatigaming177
@illuminatigaming177 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for existing Jay. You're the best
@Anthony-fd8mh
@Anthony-fd8mh Жыл бұрын
Great Video, I'm about to build a new system and I was wondering if I could just put my drive in along with my other drives in the new rig without any problems. I literally just asked you this in the comments section of another one of your videos that you did a few months ago. I feel better now👍
@fightingfalconfan
@fightingfalconfan 2 жыл бұрын
In my experience it's hit and miss. I have had many versions of my main rig since the late 90's. When Microsoft launched XP back in the early 2000's; I would upgrade usually to something that was already a gen older then the bleeding edge that had just come out. It would recognize the new hardware and install the software. Now you can change a whole system out and it may or may not ask to be reactivated. Once 7 came out I basically stuck with the same sata ssd for almost 10 years and at least 6 of those it was my main boot drive. Changed motherboards, cpu's, ram, video cards...still hit and miss for re-activating Windows. Currently on 11 pro.
@edison700
@edison700 2 жыл бұрын
@ 3:20 TPM 2.0 only is need when you are doing the update from 10 to 11 through windows update. doing a fresh install or running the media creation tool to update doesn't check. People are running windows 11 on Core2duos and older without issues related to TPM
@jkvinsland
@jkvinsland 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I just used the creation tool to put a fresh install of 11 on my Skylake laptop last night via USB. The only goofy thing with the install is that it requires a network connection to proceed, but you can shift+F10 to bring up the command prompt to taskkill it and move on.
@edison700
@edison700 2 жыл бұрын
@@jkvinsland it's really funny too how arbitrary the "requirements" are, as MS forget to exclude the Pentium 4 family, so if you install Win10 on a Pemitum 4 775 (either HT or D version) windows update says your computer meets the requirements and will auto update to 11 for you. there where quite a few articles about it mid Oct
@jkvinsland
@jkvinsland 2 жыл бұрын
@@edison700 That's why I disabled TPM on my Zen 3 desktop, just in case. I'll preview 11 on my laptop as I pretty much just use it for basic browsing and streaming, but I don't want to be thrown into a whole new OS involuntarily.
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