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With the 4070Ti Super being on the same AD103 die as the RTX 4080, can we overclock a 4070Ti Super to come close to the performance of the 4080 making the 4080 obsolete?
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[@rustyboltz2820]

This almost has 1070Ti vibes when people overclocked them and basically had 1080 performance.

[@hairychesticles1]

its not rly a big gain with the OC. my 6800xt got about 5-10fps with an OC same with my 2070 got about 3-8fps

[@UTFapollomarine7409]

yup then eventually might get a bit unstable if its not water cooled or liquid my 6800 reference gets a 16% boost on the lows when i overclock but gets unstable at some point in reality that is like 6-12fps in some areas@@hairychesticles1

[@noahbirdrevolution]

I remember certain lines of the rtx2000 series had vastly different mem speeds based on the manufacturer. I remember my zotac extereme whatever 2070 had significantly faster mem speed than all but 2 or 3 other 2070 cards which were near the same. Those specific cards could get really close to the 2070 super base time spy scores.

[@sownlengoc]

only overclocking vram makes difference

[@Ryan_Driedger]

I'm still rocking my 1070ti but it is starting to degrade. I've lost about 75mhz of stable overclock in the past 2 years but I'm pumped to the 4070ti super or maybe wait for next gen see how it goes

[@arkapadma]

Peasant : OC to gain FPS. Aristrocrat: OC to brag each other expensive card.

[@DeadOmenz]

Hope you're feeling healthier, wish you the best recovery. Loved the video.

[@petert3355]

What the OP said goes ditto from Down Under mate.

[@tilmandavies3239]

... and from across the ditch in NZ hehe 🐑

[@disguiseddv8ant486]

There was nothing wrong with him. You all fall for the trap out because he knows how ignorant and gullible most individuals are. The man uploaded a picture of a arm at a clinic. He did this during the pandemic when his viewership were going down because he didn't know how to pivot from doing PC builds during the GPU shortage.

[@DeadOmenz]

@@disguiseddv8ant486 How far outta your ass did you pull that comment from?

[@disguiseddv8ant486]

@@DeadOmenz Not far at all. It was right on the edge.

[@danield.8615]

What I like about your OC trials is the amount of knowledge you have and how you explain it to the users. Even if I like to undervoltage to prevent those insane power usages.

[@Evangelionism]

Hi daniel

[@mikepawlikguitar]

Undervolting is only necessary if temps are getting too high for your liking..for example, Core i9-series or even laptops benefit much more from undervolting than an RTX 4070 Ti Super that's already below 70ºC lol.

[@Sirsantos]

Bruh this is one of the best overclocking video I've seen and it was mainly about the 4070TI than overclocking.

[@evlkenevl2721]

I dunno, think I'll wait for the RTX 4070Ti Super Duper WTF BBQ edition.

[@FriendlyPCGamers]

4090 Ultra Pro Max Noob Edition

[@Nickeles020]

Insta buy!!!

[@fleurdewin7958]

You can overclock to get more clockspeed out of the 4070Ti Super , but you cannot overclock to get more L2 cache. 4080 has 64MB of L2 cache, 4070Ti Super has 48MB .

[@RadexyTV]

This might be reason why they cut the L2 tbh. It would have been too close to the 4080.

[@itsjustdroid]

I didnt know they gut the cache...THAT makes all the sense why the 4070 ti is closer to the 4080 smh

[@beefwantko7269]

IM calling BS, been mining with every card you can think of over the last 6 years, and your not pushing your memory 1250mhz, and your core clock.. and your Power limit 18 percent... which I dont think they even alow you too go past 110 on all the cards ive played with in the 4000 series... and your saying its increasing your temps by 2c.. your full of crap man im sorry.. just straight lies, maybe your getting plus 2c if you droped the power limit 18 percent.. which is possible unlike what you said.. and had your fans running 80-100 percent. post the data @@ElmorQuistin

[@dv5466]

@@ElmorQuistinso? His point still stands

[@patsk8872]

4080 Super might be appealing if you could get it for $1k MSRP but at $1100-1200 it just starts to look stupid.

[@Borgschulze]

Does anyone remember the Sapphire X800GTO2 from back in the day? You could flash it to a full on X850XTPE, it would take CS:Source FPS from around 60, to around 120... just with a BIOS flash, and still had more room to overclock it beyond that.

[@M.W.H.]

Yea these are mythical stories now.

[@advancegeo2986]

Yeah I agree with the other guy that's the type of stuff I wish would still be possible at least at some level

[@SuperConker]

nVidia had a similar thing back in 2003 with their GeForce FX 5900-series. You could make any of the following cards become the same as their top-model GeForce FX 5950 Ultra (256 MB) after just a simple Bios flash: GeForce FX 5900 Ultra (256 MB) GeForce FX 5900 XT (128 MB) GeForce FX 5900 SP (128 MB) GeForce FX 5900 (128 MB) For the 128 MB models, the improvement was very noticeable.

[@Tigerfox_]

@@SuperConker That's nonsense. First of all, the 128MB would be gravely missed sooner or later. Secon, at least XT and ZT (what's SP?) hat much lower clocking memory, so you could never reach 5900-speeds. I don't know about the difference in 5900, 5900 Ultra and 5950 Ultra, though, could be the same, could be slightly different. And thirdly, at least XT and ZT had entirely different PCB and cooling systems so you could never reach the same clock as 5950 Ultra. I could imagine 5900 256MB being identical to 5900 Ultra. All people saying "I OCed card x to level of card y!" always forget that card y could also be OCed in in 99,9% of cases would reach higher clocks than card x. Top tier cards often do not have as much headroom as certain lower tier models but overall clock always will be higher. There might have been very few cases were you really got a downclocked top-tier card with a different name, like X800GTO² beeing a X850XT in disguise, but that always was intentional.

[@Tigerfox_]

Because that was the intention of X800GTO², clearing the stock of R400-GPUs right beforce X1800-release. X800GTO², guaranteed to be unlockable to 16 pipes, were more expensive than regular X800GTO², which often were not unlockable, but this way sales were boosted by hopes of getting a cheap X850XT. If you were unlucky and your X800GTO was not unlockable, you would have been better of buying an X800XL for about the same price. If you were really unlucky you got one with not unluxckable R430-core and were stuck with 12 pipes AND low core clock, in essence a X800 256MB.

[@danielhulan3058]

This was your best gpu overclock tutorial by far. Thank you! You made it make so much sense.

[@thealien_ali3382]

I like hairy men

[@Rustyer266]

My overclocking these days on nvidia cards, is slide up the power slider as far as it will go and lock the fan speed at 75-80% wack +150 on the core +1000 on memory then call it a day. i havent ran into a 20/30/40 series card that cant do that.

[@Comfy_Bed]

Jesus "6 seconds ago" i need a life.

[@stevemgilikson]

Ping diff

[@musclecargarage2875]

Is that a problem?

[@bubbleaddict]

I'm with you. Lol

[@the_shameless]

Better than not being able to watch videos until the end of your 14 hour shift lol

[@TheProtagonist_777]

You think He games?

[@svfutbol20]

Yeah I just bought one. I’m sick of waiting for the “perfect” card to come along. I want some 4K performance and overclocking headroom for under $1k

[@dkindig]

I couldn't hold out any longer. Bought a 3070 during the drought (don't ask) and this card checked off a lot of boxes for me at a good price.

[@Mr3ppozz]

Might not be the biggest improvements.. I still enjoyed the video and the explaination! Thanks Jay

[@AthanImmortal]

2:14 small correction, 4080 power limit is 320W (according to TechPowerUp) not 350W, so the difference is 35W not 65W, and also makes what Jay is doing (adding 10%) more compelling, because 10% of 285W is 28.5W, so almost as much as would be needed to match the 4080 tdp.

[@mikezappulla4092]

Who cares.

[@georgec2932]

@@mikezappulla4092 The irony of you caring enough to comment.

[@josephroberts9815]

@@mikezappulla4092 Don't be rude bro its free to be nice. I appreciated their comment :)

[@09RHYS]

​@@mikezappulla409265 Comments on JayZ Channel, all negative... You people never cease to annoy me.

[@matthewzaczeniuk4892]

@@josephroberts9815 Love that mindset.

[@mikewilson8407]

Off topic but saw your tweet...SOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY It IS not the worse! Keep getting better bud!!!

[@eugkra33]

The RTX 4080 is 320w, not 350w. 350w might be for a factory OC model like a Strix. 10% ontop of the 4070ti Super is 313w, which isn't that far off from the Founder's Edition RTX 4080.

[@maxzett]

THIS is what I've been waiting for. Initially I was so stoked to get a 4070ti super, but the reviews rly made me go "meh". However I always wondered whether this thing might be an OC beast

[@sevenstars0711]

What GPU do you have now? I have a 1080ti and I can't wait to upgrade to the 4070ti super next week!

[@TheRealName7]

​@@sevenstars0711or have a look to see if the Rx 7900xt prices drop, it would be a better option and better value

[@dkindig]

I've had mine for about two months now and I'm getting ready to go in and do a serious run at OC, currently have been running DX12 at +120 clock, +1000 mem, clock running pretty consistently at around 2940, and getting performance within just a few frames of a base 4080 at 1440p. Definitely worth it for the savings. Hoping I can find a way to manually bump up voltage and push it further. Temps are excellent!

[@SilverKnight16]

Love that you got sponsored by Falcon Northwest. That's super cool :D

[@thealien_ali3382]

I love you 💗

[@TheaKaSaToRi]

Been watching for years, seen several videos of you Oc'ing, but I really liked this. Some how this gave me a way better understanding. This form, but now show us some practical OC for CPU.

[@dannyrie1]

Comparing in overclocked card to a stock card isn't a fair comparison though. It's stock vs stock / or OC vs OC. The 4080 super will probably be a better buy if that msrps at $999. And if the 4080 non-super drops to $900 or so since it'll be between the 4070ti and 4080super, it'll be a better buy this the 4070ti super

[@the_homie_alfred]

he knows that. the point of the video was to show that if you overclocked the ti super then you have something extremely close to the 4080 stock. the 4080 stock was 1200, this one is 800.

[@ELCrisler]

The point of overclocking has really dropped off for any meaningful use in day to day gamer use. The increases are minor, even with some real effort and now with render scaling tech the need is diminished further as a software setting can get better performance uplift for gaming without any of the overclocking downsides like increased power, heat, more cost for cooling and so on. Further even if you do overclock the ability to approach the next level with your over clock, (a 4070 to 4080 level as noted) has all but vanished. If you want to over clock for fun and to see what you can do, more power to you. If you just want to game then there is no reason for overclocking.

[@ryandann9362]

I remember getting my gtx275 sc for under $300, maybe nearer $250. I used to think of upgrading my gpu as buying a new console. I justified the price because I was going to get a step up in the graphics. If I wanted to splurge, I'd spend near a grand and get a whole new pc build. Now it's $800 just for the card!?! That's crazy stupid. After stupidly buying a 2080 ti, and then never using it(the switch released) I am not buying another new pc build until my pc flat out does not boot. Console gaming is now all I do exclusively. I can afford these new cards, but it's the principle of it that gets me. I'm not supporting this model anymore, when I can just get a ps5(which I haven't done until these survival horror games come out) and a new TV for the price of a gpu. I still keep up on pc gaming though.

[@ffwast]

Alternatively, get a used card after a new generation comes out. I'll think about a 40 series once they hit eBay for a fraction of the price, if at all.

[@ffwast]

(Consider a much better tv though,OLED really is that good)

[@habilain]

If the fan power usage is a genuine concern, disconnect the fans from the card and connect them to a fan hub or similar (it's easy enough to get an adapter for this). Or just deshroud it and point a leaf blower at the card.

[@OceansideCreations]

Awesome. I was literally looking for this analysis. I would like to see more comparisons in 4k though

[@BrandensOutdoorChannel]

Its not meant to be for 4k

[@sharlatandjaul3739]

How can he incrase power limit to 110% ? Mine can only go to 100% in afterburner

[@reviewforthetube6485]

So jay, i ended up getting an asus 4070 super and then an asus strix 4080 super. I finally understand why you want flagship gpus. It doesnt scrub away textures or details at 4k. Half of the people saying 4k isnt worth it are getting diluted experiences. I had no clue i would notice so much more clariry with the 4080 super in 4k. On the 4070 super I would go back and feoth from 1440p to 4k and they looked almost identical. Do the same on the 4080 super and go wow less shimmering, more textures and texture details even more clarity overall. I did not expect that so now i understand what a true 4k gaming experience is and i cant go back. Its true some gpus are made for 4k in mind. I feel like the 4070 ti super would do ok in 4k also. Due to the 16gb of vram. I had no clue that even with 12gb of vram the system will limit its usage even if you arent maxing it out. So its scrubbing away some details and textures. With 16gb of vram it will utilize more and actually hold the information better and the textures will come out more and details. Luckily from my testing 20gb vs 16gb no difference to the eye so thats nice actually the 4080 super looked better then the 7900xt 20gb becquse somwthinf weirs about how the 7900xt utilizes its memory qnd memory speed its actually more limited in real world usage. You arent actually getting the benefits of it even if its being used. 7900xtx does a bit better. You can look up the 7900xt memory issues. The vram. 7900xtx also but not as bad. There is a reason why even with and having more vram the image quality isnt better just saying. And yes image quality does change between cards it isnt just settings. I wish that jay could try the 4080 super strix or 4090 strix he can oull out more power on them then any other. My 4080 super can do 420watts. Its allowed to get an extra 33%. But in real world usage gettinf it to 3000mhz and the power limit to 420watts translated to about 9.5% or 9.75% I have seen up to 15fps gains in games. But uusally like 5 to 10fps. Still nice gains.

[@EfrainMan]

Time to test if a 4080 Bios will work on this lol

[@Dan-Simms]

Yeah, that would be a great test

[@Th3Fly1ngCow]

Bios flash and increased power limits and bam cheap[er] 4080

[@Cool-kk2vl]

maybe 16 pin 4070 can work with 4070 s bios?

[@codehammer10]

going to use Gfrad on my GPU once it arrives. see what type of perfomance increases i can get.

[@joshd.9304]

was thinking the exact same thing.

[@SebastianWeiss-c8d]

Interesting to know that Port Royal importance regarding RT. Coincidentally I just finished the 2nd time of undervolting and "overclocking" my RTX 3070 and used Heaven for it. I think since I went for undervolting that shouldn't be a huge issue, but I also don't play any RT Titles at the moment. The Stock settings of the Asus Dual OC 3070 are just so terrible, you can't just plug and play it. Not much performance and the stock temperatures are horrible. Managed to get the Card from a 1.06V @1775 ( 1875 Mhz ) to a stable 0.9V @ 1935Mhz. Probably could push it further, but already super happy with it that way. Temps in my most played game dropped by 10°C, less power draw, same performance ( locked fps ) and so much more quiet. Haha. Love messing around with the hardware. So much fun.

[@Hahahanoyes]

I have the crappy msi ventus version but i was able to hit 3000mhz core clock at +190 and keep memory at +1800 for a 1500mhz peak in the memory speed stable.

[@WickermanX1]

Hi a have a MSI RTX4090 Ventus 3X for 1500€ on R5 5600X and it is overkill. Today i get a the same card asus tuf 4070ti super for 700€ and it is fantastic, and sold the msi 4090 for 1400€ to the same guy with the 4070ti super. We switched the card, 700€ in my pocket and now the 5800X3D is on the way for 250€. I play ony 1080p thats the reason I dont need the 4090. Previos card in my pc was Gainward 3060ti Ghost.

[@BOLDBANGER]

that was a great move imo. unless you're a crack gamer that 4090 ain't worth it.

[@willr2189]

So you only tested it on one game title and an easy game to benchmark. Why not tested it on a series of games such as cyberpunk, RE4 Remake, Crysis, Gears of War 5, MW3, I mean literally games that are demanding. I wouldn't call the 4070ti super close to the 4080. Not by a long shot especially when you're running the card at higher resolutions such as 5120x1440p like myself which is super ultrawide or even 4k. I would call the 4070TI Super an amazing 1440p card but not a 4k card which is why you haven't tested it in 4k because you know the test results will not be impressive. Not criticizing you as you made a great video but I feel this could be misleading Jay.

[@willr2189]

btw and i quote "With the 4070Ti Super being on the same AD103 die as the RTX 4080, can we overclock a 4070Ti Super to come close to the performance of the 4080 making the 4080 obsolete?" Now this can be misleading so there is a fine line that needs to be thread on eggshells. They only way you can prove this statement is actually benchmarking an "Overclocked 4080 vs Overclock 4070TI Super" in demanding titles to prove your hypothesis in all resolutions.

[@vinak963]

I mean. We got Asus here trying to upcharge a 4070 ti Super 150 bucks for a 100 MHz overclock... Or Zotac upcharging 40 dollars for 15 MHz. Could use some Buyer Beware videos as well as the fun OC videos...

[@stever7638]

I guess ASUS didn't get the memo that these GPU's have been overpriced, and even $800 is alot and we are trying to get back to normal here. That's a red flag for me with ASUS, I like them, but noted that they are gouging minimal gains. I'll go AMD if this keeps up.

[@Giliver]

i wish so badly i could go AMD but i use Nvidia broadcoast all the time so its a deal breaker. (and no there is no free alternative) I'm jealous of those who don't feel tied down by Nvidias features.@@stever7638

[@kent6732]

The Asus TUF is MSRP at Microcenter.

[@potatoskins8155]

Yeah in the UK there are some 4070ti super cards selling going for £940 😂 you can buy a 7900xtx for that money

[@stever7638]

@@potatoskins8155 AMD will likely address the ray tracing with the 5000 series, and with RT being a small factor along with Nvidea not having a huge presence with RT, makes AMD look more viable. Sure Nvidea does RT in a somewhat, mild acceptable manner...they surely don't make games playable under $800..so why bother. I will surely boycott the current price gougers, as a 7900 XT or even the XTX is very future proof at 1440P. Who cares about max settings, 16X AA at 4K? Turn AA down to 2X or off and just about every card works at 1440P above $300 w/o RT.

[@xeakira]

How are you able to get +110 power limit?

[@Roll_the_Bones]

Nice work Jay, great demo of OCing Nvidia cards. RTX4000 cards are stuck to +5% max OC, like here. AMD 7800XT, 7900XT/XTX, all seem to go +15% if the cooler is up to it, so extremely good for raster, but obviously, they take a hit when it comes to RT, but that's no secret.

[@lostjester]

im just getting a cheap pny 4070ti super, figure it’ll last me another 6-7 years now that my 1070ti is giving out

[@jake152]

the 4080 sold great, amd cant compete

[@badass6300]

The 7800XT can overclock a lot for a modern GPU, upwards of 14-18%.

[@Ladioz]

Yeah but then it will use too much power. Better keep it at stock and cap frames. It will run cooler and quiet

[@braxfl7462]

​@@Ladioz depends on which model you buy, I have a sapphire nitro and I have it as max as I can possibly go. 980mv undervolt, 2600 mem, 15% power limit, and 3200 boost clock. I have the fans set to max 60% and it always runs cool and quiet, fans don't even kick on until 2 hours or so. It gets me roughly 16% more performance across all games I play. Its almost 4070 ti level for $540 is what I paid

[@badass6300]

@@Ladioz The rx 7800XT consumes less than the rtx 4070 Ti.

[@Ladioz]

The best thing about 7800XT is that it barely gets hot, the same with 7700XT. both are designed so well. However I would go for the 2 fan card, to be more silent and spread less heat in the case@@braxfl7462

[@RX7800XTBenchmarks]

​@@braxfl7462 same. I have the 7800 xt gigabyte oc, temperatures don't get above 60, and rarely even hits that. Mainly floating between 50-56. I'm also going blow for blow with the 4070 ti, even beating it in some games. I'll take that for $300 less. Im also using the fsr3 md, and I'm getting the same ray tracing performance as the 4070 in cyberpunk. The 7800xt overclocked is crazy crazy value.

[@aaronmohr8320]

I planned on getting this card, this kinda just makes even more happy I waited as long as I have for a new build

[@anitaremenarova6662]

This is like the best value Nvidia card to get right now. Overclocked 4080 performance with 16GB vram to not have to buy a new card next year.

[@thealien_ali3382]

I am waiting for a 4080 super FE

[@wallofcrys22]

I would love to see you guys do some voltage mods on 4k Series cards

[@mrdisem]

Can someone explain why my 4070 ti super doesn't go higher than 2940mhz for me, when I see it's not kinda struggling with power and uses 1075mV on the last curve and doesn't go higher than 65C?

[@timometsanoja9666]

We have to remember that 4070ti was supposed to be 4080 light and not the actual 4070ti. So it is not a wonder that 4070ti super gets so close to the 4080. As it is essentially the same card. And the 4070 super is more than likely just the 4070ti they had planned before they had to change the naming... AMD is in a strange place with their xt cards... They could have just released this first batch as the non-xt cards to leave space for a similar refresh Nvidia just did here, but they didn't decide to go there. Are we going to see 7800 xtx etc. in the future??? Or are they simply going to go to 9000 series in one fell swoop? We will have to wait and see. Would love to try my hand at building a new pc, but my 3600x and 3060ti are still handling all the games I play without any issues... Exciting times to be a PC hardware enthusiast.

[@OLDAD_]

Just built my first pc with this GPU- thanks for the video!!

[@GuyUnderTheBridge]

In reality this card is massively below the 4080 and will go down in history as the worst 40x Super. Purposely gimped cache kneecaps performance and disengenously comparing it to the outgoing 4080 doesn’t alter that.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

"Massively" Lil bro watch the vid, you can easily overclock it to match the 4080 stock. We all get you bought the 4080 at the daylight robbery pricing it's sitting at but you don't need to make it everyone else's problem.

[@rynesherman9099]

I have a 4080, no melted cables.

[@rcflightsimmer579]

I think you might have misspoke near the beginning... The RTX 4080 is 320W TDP, not 350.. Now subscribed. Really enjoy your vids. Thanks!

[@brianb6453]

Jay is right...this card will go down as the sweet spot 40 series card. Glad you can now get 16 gigs of ram in the 70 bin. You could get 16 at launch with the 60ti, but with a memory subsystem that couldn't fully realize the buffer.

[@PoRRasturvaT]

70 bin? Dude this is $800 MSRP. Don't get fooled by numbers written on the box.

[@rustler08]

LMAO, no it won't. This is a $800 card that gets outperformed by a $650 AMD card. Remember that in 2020 $699 got you a 3080, which offered 50% more performance than the outgoing top card (2080 Ti). Meanwhile, this shitbox card gets like 15% more performance than the 3090 and is like 26% faster than a 3080. The sweet spot for the 40-series is buy a 4090 or buy AMD.

[@Oliver-sn4be]

I agree the 4000 series are all a scam only the 4090 is good rest pricy and low preformenc go amd or 4090 or w8 a bit more and get a 5000 series

[@KRGraphicsCG]

I've been waiting on a GPU for my build... And I found one AT MSRP!! BUT, I'm gonna wait for the 4080 Super. Also, hope you're taking care of yourself

[@TAG-GAMING]

What's this? 17:27

[@Joebauers2505]

Sorry but $800 is entirely to much for a 70 series ti card. theyre historically been around $599. people need to quit buying these cards for a while so they go back to original consumer pricing

[@anitaremenarova6662]

I mean, it matches the 4080 when overclocked. I agree it should still be $200 cheaper but I'm still getting it because the world sucks and Ngreedia doesn't have any competition when it comes to RT.

[@Joebauers2505]

@@anitaremenarova6662 yea fully understand just wish it would change.

[@Joebauers2505]

@@anitaremenarova6662 maybe so with RT but I still feel like it's a gimmick I rarely use it and even if I do while I'm playing the game I don't notice it much because I'm involved in the game.

[@jshennessy]

Jay the statement of the 4070 Ti Super being the best value overall card, I don't think it will still be true once the 4080 super comes out if someone could get a card at a MSRP. But the 4080 Super may be the best bang for your buck card and the longest lasting GPU to hang onto for years to come as a 4k Gaming GPU. I still have my 3080 and it still games great at 4k with triple A games. Can't wait to see your breakdown on the 4080 super and if it will be worth upgrading from the 3080 for 4k gaming and editing

[@xelvania1581]

I upgraded from a 1080 to a 1440 ultrawide a few years back, so the 4070 ti super is probably the best card for a 2k gaming experience, I would assume.

[@bryanreeve7353]

Won’t overclocking make it ware out faster

[@mauzen_]

the only problem is that the 7900XT is $750

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Still too expensive for a card that'll shit itself at the slightest hint of RT.

[@mauzen_]

@@anitaremenarova6662 You are correct that the RT performance is not as good on AMD cards. However, I'd argue that RT by itself it not enough to justify paying $50-$100 more for a card that performs about the same in terms of raw rasterization.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@mauzen_ If you don't play any triple A games that's true but basically all of them coming out nowadays have RT and it sucks ass to have to gimp yourself out in the settings when you paid this much for a GPU. All the power to the people just chilling with indie and competitive games though, Radeon is better for them without a doubt.

[@mauzen_]

@@anitaremenarova6662 You're correct, I might be a bit biased against RT as I can't get invested in triple A titles when they all release broken or just suck. I'd be better off playing something like Baldur's Gate 3. Overall I think RT is a really cool technology I just don't believe it's worth the up-sale to a lot of people. Also from what I've seen many people try RT once then forget about it. Many including myself would rather have more frames.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@mauzen_ Depends on the game, in some it's a night and day difference but in many it just kills frames without improving the viewing experience much if at all. I simply believe if you're paying this much for a card you'd want the best possible experience, definitely would recommend AMD for any low to mid range GPU but it's inexcusable for their flagship to trade blows with the 4070 when RT comes into the mix. That and their driver issues make it impossible for me to recommend any product from them above the 600 mark.

[@richardbarnhurst5789]

I'm looking to jump from an Rx 6950 xt to a 4080s but I'm re-watching the vids for 4070 ti super also as there's only about max 15% difference, I just need a it more guidance tbh, I've also been told by a couple of people you may as well wait for the 5070/5080 to come out but I'm not sure what to do

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Just plug that sucker straight into a wall socket, and get ready for some heavy duty gaming!🥳 Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!🤯

[@frankwong9486]

I remember Asus already fired by Jay Did they get hired again 😮?

[@Lemmiou]

Here to prevent kids from saying “first”.

[@direct34]

You can set the V/F in the curve chart what are you talking about? Lock your V/F curve to 1075mv 1100mv isn't even safe for the memory controller. Transient loads greater than 125mv @ 1075mv will exceed the 1.2v which nvidia purposefully hardcaps.

[@TurboJailer]

So what's to keep someone from modding the vbios to raise the power limits so you can achieve 4080 level performance?

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Nothing really, you don't even need to mod anything just get a 4070tiS with a higher power limit.

[@JustMyFish]

I know this is an older video, but I hope someone will see this and give me some help. Okay so I do all my overclocking the exact same way but when I restart it just goes back to the default settings, I'm using 4070Ti Super I've nether had this happen before in the 25+ years I've been building PCs. anyone Thanks.

[@rozsasbarnabas9748]

I was able to achieve +250MHz core clock and 2000MHz on the memory on an asus ProArt RTX 4070 Ti Super. It is not unstable and I tested it for 30 minutes in port royal. And im on the top 100 RTX 4070 ti super score with a 7600X ryzen

[@Altrop]

Nvidia sucks for overclocking. The 7900XT and 7900XTX can OC from 2400/2500Mhz to 2900Mhz+ quite easily. Plus a 10% VRAM OC results in like 15% extra framerates with the 7900XT(X). On an Nvidia GPU it's not worth it.

[@scottnopreferance9006]

@JayzTwoCents Ive seen a lot of talk about how the 4070 ti super might just be 4080s that couldn't quite cut it during binning & some people cant even go stable with +1% oc. BUT ive heard a few aib models (i.e. Zotac Amp Holo) seem to be able to get much higher oc like +280 core & +2000 way more often than others. What im saying is what if they run out of cards that failed bin of a higher tier like 4080 and just partially disable fully functioning cards and those always end up in certain models etc. I think this bares testing that maybe youd be suited to (i sure can't lol). I would love nothing more than a return to the days when a partially disabled R9 Fury could sometimes be unlocked into a R9 Fury X.

[@atherasia]

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[@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390]

If it was 599 I'd call it sweet spot. At 799 it's still very expensive and rather underwhelming...

[@hendersonseena]

Thanks for this video. I recently purchased a new Galax rtx 4070 ti super video card and I am very happy with the performance and how cool it runs games. I heard that the performance was close to the rtx 4080. Now if I do need some more fps in the future I know what to expect 👍

[@shuntao3475]

Not a good performing card for the money. 1080p is dyeing with Monitor Companies (LG and others are stopping production). That Makes 1440p Entry, 4k Mid-tier. So, this card performs, ok at 4k. You build a 4k environment at home, which is mid-tier, and you have to spend $800 just on the Video Card. This is not good value.

[@kdcampo]

not gonna lie im with the ending statment. i dont have fun overclocking anymore. i had fun overclocking my 1070 back when i built my first computer. but with my 3070ti. just doing a simple +100 it would work fine in timespy, but randomly crash in a few min of lies of p gameplay at 1440p. and the +100 didnt even get me that much more performance.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

You probably had one of the models not designed for overclocking.

[@BEARTAC0S]

I can only go about +150 +500 on my 3070ti FE and it’s honestly not even worth the extra power consumption of almost 300w total

[@ksks6802]

What a crap misleading video. A 4080 beats a 4070tis by up to 25 frames in some games. I love Jay but he's seriously phoning sht in nowadays

[@mitsuhh]

It doesn't make much of a playable difference if you're already running the game at over 120fps

[@ksks6802]

@@mitsuhh that's why it's a misleading video. Racing games aren't gpu heavy. Having a fixed refresh is irrelevant, because we'll just up the gfx settings anyways.

[@laszlozsurka8991]

@@mitsuhh It does. 25 FPS is a noticeable FPS difference and don't tell me you don't feel a difference in 120 FPS and 145 FPS.

[@TheRudolph92]

I wish this would have been done with a Aorus RTX 4070 TI Super Master instead of Asus. Aorus has a better cooler, and can boost the power limit by 28% and not just a puny 10%.

[@Radu-zv9fe]

I recently got that card and the OC gains are not worth it in my opinion. A had a lot more fun and excitement seeing that i can power limit it to 75% (around 215W, which is 25% less power) loosing only 5% performance. And if you thinker some more and adjust the frequency/voltage curve you can reduce that performance loss to 2%-3% while still staying around 215w. The performance/watt really goes through the roof once you pass that 215w mark with minimal performance gains. So staying around that 215w makes the card cooler, quieter and consume a lot less power with minimal performance impact. I don't know if this is a thing for this card only or if it applies to all the NVIDIA's 4000 series. It might be an interesting idea for a video to investigate more about that sweet spot for performance and efficiency for other cards 👀

[@jesseslack2089]

Thanks Jay for doing this alot of us appreciate it!

[@formulaic78]

It's interesting. But surely the 4080 can also overclock by a similar amount.

[@jesseslack2089]

@@formulaic78 I am hopeing that people will be able to Bios update teh TI Super Plus Ultra to "See" it as a 4080

[@sevenstars0711]

@@formulaic78 obviously, if you already have a 4080. But if you're looking to buy a new GPU now, you'd be brain-dead to buy a 4080

[@The_Boba_Fettuccine]

You're always my go to on making final decisions on pulling the trigger for hardware upgrades. Going from a 2080 super I've been thumbing around the GPU market and as always you make my decision a comfortable one. Thanks for the info as always and your ability to teach me something everytime.

[@onehandedbandit5957]

Hey Jay, my aero 4070 ti super reaches 316 tdp measured with nvidia overlay playing war thunder with the nvidia automatic overclock enabled in the overlay. Just my 2cents man. Hope you’re doing alright.

[@DavidMadeira29]

What it was, last Lend - Becker game before Harry Potter became overwhelming?! Not even to brag about the RT new economy, everytime something hit the market, they would claim it's because the jacket, that they started collecting tennis shoes. Buy 'em not one, but two apartments and get kicked out of your maximum facility refurbishing bargain. I don't know, my idea of tennis had nothing to do with taking trains in India. How many apartments when you don't give a f^ck and you're a stranger in your own land with that same nine of Spades? Guess I don't really care of the FPS counter when the game is stuck in between worlds of dividends. Namastè.

[@DavidBoggs-pk8nr]

yes it is worth it. 1500 on my memory, and 140 on the core. I get 6-12 more fps in many titles. even at 4k in demanding titles like cyberpunk I see a 4fps increase, and that's at 4k which is huge. Take you from not 60, right to it :)

[@370zTEK]

Just did this on my Gigabyte gaming 4070ti super and got 3030mhz/12600mhz total numbers faster fps now in games. Thanks for the tips.

[@mikepict9011]

I got the 4070ti s over a 7900xtx because it plays smother and the thermals . Lower fps .... but it FEELS smoother weird

[@leiria87gaming]

I know roast me all you want. I am new to the PC building community. Can anyone recommend a mother board, CPU, GPU combo for 700$? That is my budget. I am looking for a gaming combo. There are so many options I am getting stressed I may waste my money and not get the best I can. Thank you all for anything you can suggest.

[@lemoncake9385]

Because of how stupid Nvidia has gotten with their releases, i'm sick of waiting with my 2060. Making the jump to 7900xt.

[@ncw9863]

Bro just google fix for the voltage. You can do it in like 5min and get the voltage unlocked It's basically 10min job and the card is not locking it 💀💀💀

[@neil1922]

So no game benchmark comparisons, just lots of bollock waffle and then the video ends with a short frame rate difference? OH 160 now 165 ok that's it

[@GalantVR41062]

This is a modern way to over clock gpus to run up to the maximum. It takes time but you can dial in the over clock in the curve editor. Tbis is the way to optimize the gpu at each voltage bin. I watch the temps, mv, and mhz during the bench mark and dial in the top points then interpolate down to my 2d base clocks. I have found this helps if power limit and voltage limit drop tbe mv down but the mhz stays up and causes a crash.

[@802Garage]

Exactly. Gotta tune the Voltage curve.

[@bborb]

it doesnt really help 40 series from what i have seen

[@mikezappulla4092]

@@bborbit doesn’t

[@jaketoast6095]

For a brief moment, i thought WOW Jay can manage to go through a whole video without a car analogy, but damn i was wrong

[@LivingParable693]

How the hell is Jay tuning up the power limit to 110%. I can't do that with my msi ventus oc card wtf?

[@James_cooper_89]

nearly at 4 mill! come on everyone thats not already! please sub!

[@dragontechgaming6677]

better get use to less out of your cards and coming soon your cards will have issues hitting advertised clock speeds along with memory overclocking issues. you will own nothing and will be happy.

[@stephenmeinhold5452]

i am not what you would call poor and i have a very comfotable life style and i am a gamer and i desperatly want an upgrade from my 2080ti but i dont have that kind of money to blow on a new GPU, maybe if i was living at home with my mum and had a sweet job but i am an older adult that has to pay for food, rent and bills. they have priced themself out of the market for millions of people thats why they reduced the price, but its still out of reach for most.

[@yaketytak4427]

weird, I have the same gpu but it'll only let me take the power limit to 107 instead of 110 like in the vid

[@georgepopane3454]

greetings brother j with much respect will u help me about dell pricision m6600 laptop how to update nvidia graphic drivers im scared to download the wrong one and damage my only laptop pls will u help me pls

[@TheROOTminus1]

I really like your videos, but Nvidia's BS over the last 2 series has left me just not caring about this product launch

[@Tigerfox_]

@JayzTwoCents: The question in the titel is nonsense and will cement a decade old misconception. Certain 4070Ti Super with high enough TDP-headroom (most cheaper cards have very litte headroom) may reach stock-4080-speeds (I doubt it, since it would have to clock much higher than 4080 itself), but since 4080 has 10SM more, higher-rated memory, much beefier boards a much higher TDP-headroom, just about every 4080 will easily outperfom event highest OCed-4070TiS easily with slight OC and potentially reach even higher clockspeeds and thus much rather increase the gap.

[@Nickeles020]

My card does better than 16% of the 4080's in Port Royal according to 3dmark..

[@Wolfmonster74]

Just like him to not get to the point a 20 minute video could of been 5 minutes. It's also just like him to not include any game benchmarks or any time stamps to see anything. Jay just sucks

[@aeasus]

That was a great video, short, to the point, very informative. THX :)

[@SwingArmCity]

4070 super, 4070ti super, 4080 super... Super late and Super non-relevant. More Nvidia BS.

[@802Garage]

You could almost definitely get more gains with lower temps by tuning the voltage curve. 👍

[@Aurummorituri]

No voltage curve. 👎 It lowers secret clocks/shuts off core clusters in the background and lowers performance with Ada architecture. It works wonders on my 3090, but those days are over.

[@802Garage]

@@Aurummorituri Ah. I've seen people saying it doesn't work on the 4000 series. That's annoying.

[@Aurummorituri]

@@802Garage You can lower your power draw and temps, but it's no longer "free". To be fair it is not as essential as it was on the 30-series. That Samsung 8nm process is hella power hungry. 3090 performance differed greatly if you had a model with two or three 8-pin connectors. My FTW3 could pull 480W past 2GHz with a dirty OC. Undervolting dropped it to 450W max with most games under 420W and still hold 2Ghz. Ada Lovelace is much more power efficient.

[@802Garage]

@@Aurummorituri Thanks for the info!

[@AnEyeRacky]

How do you enable the power limit over the 100% on afterburner like that?

[@fallenlegion1828]

You need to use the beta version of MSI afterburner to get the voltage control for these new super cards

[@ralphym]

My computer keeps blue screening, i try to download games, but its giving me the hardest time ever. SoS

[@TheRudolph92]

Timestamp: 14:00 Why do you say that GDDR6X is ECC memory? It is not.

[@alisafar6235]

it's funny beacuase I have a 1070ti and now I'm planning on getting a 4070ti super