Jazz Saxophone Snob Attempts Classical Saxophone

When will the snobbery end? Probably never...
You asked for it - here is my second iteration of the sax snob episodes. Please remember that I am not being serious in the video; the snob character is the embodiment of many ridiculous things I've heard in my undergrad about the contrasting genre.
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[@MarioRamirez-661]

"Dude its just about the vibe" 😂😂😂

[@theblackbasketball]

I died at that part 😂

[@archungus]

Hahahaha

[@harpsprince7576]

😂😂😂

[@chapterrv]

T h a t ' s a l l t h a t m a t t e r s

[@willmorris8198]

2:39

[@jakobdurst8075]

I lost it at “Jazz is commercially viable”

[@aaclar]

One time i had a gig that covered my parking for said gig

[@johnblinsky6021]

@@aaclar one time i had a gig that covered half of the gas money to get there

[@figeon]

Damn bro, leave some money for the rest of us.

[@sensational_cellar8606]

Actually, Classical outsells Jazz!

[@RebeccaLoran]

Ah yes a slice of pizza is enough to pay my rent.

[@Sirvalorsax]

I gotta be honest man, classical music with a jazz articulation sounds pretty awesome. If I had never heard the classical piece, I would think it was a legit "jazz" tune.

[@kotu_pnd4]

Same! Also your videos are great too.

[@lizajade7788]

I think it just sounds wrong and overall bad

[@hippyjoe]

Ive got a friend who can play Flight of the Bumblebee jazzy and its insane

[@snailmix]

Honestly, that lick from Concertino da Camera with jazz articulation would fit well in a solo

[@snailmix]

I’m specifically referring to 5:23

[@ironeousaudio]

*Classical saxophonist plays* *Nathan creeps in* “Did Coltrane make that?”

[@rhettC5]

Funny guy

[@michaelshaffield642]

“Your sound is just nasally...like a clarinet” Sadness

[@Saxologic]

I am sorry!!!!!

[@troysmithfr]

@@Saxologic How dare you attack the clarinet :(

[@Saxologic]

@@ericolens3 Nasally isn’t necessarily an insult. I like clarinet! The jazz snob is not who I am lol

[@mangofactory.mp4]

*says phrase nasally*

[@hello16yearsago43]

@@ericolens3 bruh it’s a freaking joke

[@dannyjlt]

Playing Bach like that is Sacrilegious

[@Saxologic]

Blasphemy!

[@lederp8096]

laMentAblE

[@T_manuel]

@@Saxologic Fellow cultured man sighted... 😂 welcome TSV initiate... 😂

[@SeanLaMontagne]

Blasphe- damn it

[@YoutubePizzer]

you're sacrilegeous

[@MDR0]

Kinda sucks how the classical orchestra doesnt include sax

[@shaddjimenez4524]

yeah it does, so much opportunity wasted

[@gijskikkert5761]

In our Country It Does And It Sounds Great!

[@richardplate8255]

@@gijskikkert5761 From which country do you come from?

[@gijskikkert5761]

Netherlands

[@gijskikkert5761]

@@richardplate8255 Netherlands/Holland

[@sonsauvage]

This classical player was chill but his technique definitely needs more eyebrows

[@samsanchez9526]

-It needs more cow bells

[@naomihannah7586]

Which one is the classical player

[@esauponce9759]

@@naomihannah7586 The one on the right.

[@cmcas]

😂😂😂

[@seoultrip25]

Piece starting off with mezzo piano low c. Jazz snob: DETONATE!!!!

[@Saxologic]

😂😂😂

[@Joshua-gv1ep]

I had a solo piece last year that ended with a ppp Bb and decrescendos into silence. “Sonata for tenor saxophone and piano” mvmt 2 and 3. Being a high school student, this piece made me wanna light it on fire sometimes.

[@brunoazevedo4944]

Love how he completely ignores the dynamics

[@willmorris8198]

LMAO and his face at 4:29

[@Jae77]

Ngl the jazz version doesn't sound all that bad compared to the classical on the other video 😂

[@karbear04]

The classical saxophonist playing jazz ep almost made me pee my pants!! I was all classical until the end of my studies, and my sound was so uptight... still kind of is...

[@BigAl72ZGE]

I like the brighter tone a bit but the scooping and the grace notes thrown in don't really work. However, the Creston played over the jazz chords was really cool and I would definitely listen to the whole sonata arranged that way!

[@jarrickhillery8664]

@@BigAl72ZGE I sorta disagree. I think he made smart choices about where to put the scoops and grace notes. But the style is completely different lmao.

[@BigAl72ZGE]

@@jarrickhillery8664 I agree they were musical choices, but they were so wrong for the style that it overall didn't work. The brighter tone probably wouldn't have bothered me though maybe I might have noticed something if I was listening to the whole piece played with that tone.

[@torch5817]

Another morgana... OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY

[@jerryhan4034]

Jazz snobs don't look at sheet music.

[@steveyin7929]

The classical saxophonist shouldn’t need the music either. True musicians don’t have their eyes glued onto the paper. Sight reading and doing stuff on the fly then okay reading is fine but if one is truly studying and performing any kind of music (classical or jazz), then you shouldn’t need the sheet music after a month of working of the pieces... and I bet my ass that the guy on the right has been studying these pieces for much longer than a month

[@Saxologic]

Hey you never know, the snob community is a diverse one 😌

[@ma0487]

@@steveyin7929 uhh...

[@kennyr1161]

@@steveyin7929 I guess you must be a memorization snob

[@steveyin7929]

@@kennyr1161 ehhh I’ll own up to that haha

[@jamespeachh]

Jacob Bernat was the student teacher at my high school like 4 years ago:). He was universally loved by all the students and after he was gone we were all really upset.

[@Saxologic]

He is great!!

[@nathanreynolds4259]

MATT BAHAAHAHAHA

[@TheMightyFaye]

I can sense sarcasm

[@isaacboone3574]

Ah yes, the Jazzunov Concerto and Coltrane Sonata

[@lukasantos6991]

Oh my goood :DD

[@misseli1]

I really appreciate how Saxologic respects classical AND jazz music styles. Too often musicians praise one and bash the other.

[@bassic6561]

“You can’t just hack giant steps into the piece” 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dillon2824]

Can you please (somehow) make the Jazz Saxophone Snob meet the Classical Saxophone Snob?

[@cf-166.8]

Props to you for not laughing after every sentence.

[@Saxologic]

Every jump cut was me cutting out a laugh lol

[@hudssntao]

Not gonna lie- jazz sax on classical sax music doesn't sound bad at all...

[@xadielbenejan8274]

Would beg to differ imo...

[@hudssntao]

@@xadielbenejan8274 lol you do you

[@steveyin7929]

@@shaddjimenez4524 nah they wouldn’t get skinned alive because who the hell goes to concerts that feature the classical saxophone. There are barely any of those concerts to begin with

[@steveyin7929]

1000% agree

[@jmack3286]

@@steveyin7929 actually the sax is so dang loud that at any concert, the way he was playing, it’ll be louder than literally everything there. (except the trumpets)

[@ethanchristensen5153]

you really spent the time to put coltrane changes over the creston, god DAMN how sacrilegious LMAO

[@Saxologic]

Creston Steps Giant Crest Giant Crust Crusty Steps Giant Crest White Strips Crest Tooth Paste

[@ethanchristensen5153]

@@Saxologic 1 week later.... my professor just assigned me the Creston...

[@jovostudios]

CRUSTY STEPS

[@daet.4570]

Lol that first prelude Bach was rolling over in his grave 😂

[@williamkao5381]

I love how Nathan fits being a classical snob and a jazz snob WE GET IT YOUR TALENTED!!!

[@onesyphorus]

in the end kenny G has already defeated them both

[@Roxanneredpanda]

With money yes. With talent no.

[@LowReedExpert1]

@@Roxanneredpanda my teacher actually knows Kenny G, met him back when he was still just getting into the scene, and apparently he had a ton of chops and was/is an amazing player. But you gotta pay the bills, so dude basically became the master of the pentatonic scales and made the music he liked

[@saxophonerman1239]

@@Roxanneredpanda Ehhh, he's actually just a sellout. He's got good chops.

[@Absalonian]

Kelpy G

[@chapterrv]

@@LowReedExpert1 Yeah, Kenny G is (or at least was) a master a jazz fusion. Check out almost any song he did with Jeff Lorber Fusion. Totally different than his mainstream stuff

[@jesseshelton8646]

Bro, did you come up with Creston sonata over giant steps?! It’s crazy how well that fit with only a few note changes 😂

[@tenorsaxaphone100]

I was thinking the same thing 😂. That was lit 🔥

[@amargou]

dude, it's the *vibe*

[@steveyin7929]

I’ll say that creston and especially glazunov wouldn’t dig the jazz interpretations of their pieces but Ibert probably would’ve been all over it. Not only because the jazz version sounded better but ibert was inspired by jazz music when he wrote his saxophone concerto. The “jazz” interpretation of the creston and glazunov sounding better than the classical versions was definitely not meant to be (even though imo they did sound better) but the “jazz” interpretation sounding 300% better than the classical version of the ibert was no coincidence. Coming from the perspective of a classical saxophonist by the way

[@zacharymckinnon6832]

Honestly the Ibert kinda sounded cool lmao

[@joshphelps307]

The opening of Ibert actually sounded pretty cool that way even if it did make me shrink back for a moment haha

[@caseystern6616]

classical snob vs jazz snob next?

[@spectrumfamily7227]

He has already done it, it's great!

[@christianjingco2237]

@@spectrumfamily7227 no that was classical snob vs jazz saxophonist not snob vs snob

[@spectrumfamily7227]

@@christianjingco2237 Oh yes you're right

[@caseystern6616]

@@christianjingco2237 Yes, that’s what I thought. Thanks for clearing it up!

[@mylesthomas511]

"Did Coltrane make that or...."

[@SphericalCheese]

You should make the two snobs meet and have a pointless but entertaining argument

[@marijnkuijlman]

It litterally says PIANISSIMO and he is blasting the notes out XDD

[@trashbag3867]

Not Jacob being absolutely adorable in the bloopers🥺

[@edonough]

35 years of classical saxophone playing, and I still really enjoyed those tunes in BOTH styles. Keep it up!!

[@xxczerxx]

To me I've found sax is such a unique instrument because you can pick it up and within a few months be playing with a constant jazz feel (both in swing and note choice) that seems alien on other instruments. Perhaps it's because my own ears tell me 'this IS the jazz sound' when I hear it due to only listening to it in that context, but it feels very natural. Comparitavely, I started on guitar and it took me years to learn how to play jazz, mostly because it's not solely designed as solo instrument, and getting proper jazz feel with your wrist takes a long time. Also holy shit, I had no idea you could make the saxophone sound like the classical guy, it literally sounds like a different instrument.

[@Saxologic]

Yes exactly. The sound of saxophone is unbelievably versatile

[@dustinpace8446]

This is like the third person experience of someone trying to teach me classical sax 😂

[@shaddjimenez4524]

those coltrane changes were a *V I B E* Seriously though, Jacob tone sounds so good, and 4:30 sounds like a mix of cannonball and a johnny hodges ballad lol 😂

[@stephencooney1768]

Agreed, that one actually sounded really nice.

[@Cashimat]

The 4:30 part was hilarious with all those extra jazzy glizzs he added in and the over bearing stylistic vibrato was hilarious, he made Ibert sound so jazzy lmao.

[@caseystern6616]

my teacher was talking to me about the classical snob video. we were both so excited for this one and it did not disappoint! great job!

[@fabianvanderknaap2102]

"Sorry did I bore you?" "Nah, I'm sorry it's just wrong."

[@FacePomagranate]

The thing is, we need classical saxophonists to sound like clarinets because god forbid a clarinet player uses vibrato.

[@avah9721]

I play both, and vibrato can sound good on clarinet, it jus takes a lot of practice And my playing of classical sax was sorta unintentional

[@Yngsatchvai]

How do you get vibrato out of a clarinet? Your breath

[@hannahherrmann4921]

@@avah9721 lol ava i found you

[@fortumon2570]

@@Yngsatchvaiik its been like 2 years since and you forgot about this comment but its your embouchure

[@Yngsatchvai]

​@fortumon2570 wow learned q new word and everything. Thanks 😊

[@gonzaloottonelli5572]

I just love the jazz sound you are getting with these classical language. Sometimes it felt something duke ellington could wrote. And the overal approach, sounds a lot like Coltrane or Kenny Garret. Man you make me want to steal all the classical lines and make them ''jazzy''. Love your channel

[@Saxologic]

Appreciate the kind comment man!!!

[@casuallybad]

The fact you were not hit in the face with a tuna shows a great deal of restraint from Jacob. Well done Jacob.

[@9elat0]

“So you know, like... gIaNt sTePs” 😂😂

[@0netyr]

When he attempted Bach but in a jazz "vibe" 🤣🤣 Jazz is salt water and classical is fresh water.. they are both beautiful and tasty fish in water

[@lllarry6047]

Haven’t heard these pieces in years since I played them in school - nice to hear them quoted, even as a gag!

[@jennahilton8259]

I don’t even play a brass/wind instrument but I love this. The whole Jazz vs. Classical thing (or literally any other style of music vs. Classical) is always hilarious 😆

[@brendo7289]

Imagine the look on the jazz snob's face when he finds out that saxophone is also a regular in concert band.

[@dris7402]

The sequel we've all been waiting for. Bless🙏

[@DJBlackNGold]

NGL I love how both of you can jsut do both classical and jazz so damn well.. and encapsulate the snobbishness of both so well.

[@DionteGeorgeMusic]

This entire video reminded me of my undergrad when me, my friends, and my professor at the time quoting classical literature during jazz band. Great video!

[@IanJacintoSax]

The Creston Sonata over Coltrane changes 😂😂😂 genius haha!

[@bmxman4115]

I can vouch there’s people like this that ACTUALLY exists 🤦🏽‍♂️💀

[@LukeDoorMan]

You’ve done classical snob vs jazz player, you’ve done jazz snob vs classical player, now the thing we need is classical snob vs jazz snob

[@Bubbamacomb]

Band directors always complaining that trumpets are too loud yet you got this man

[@bcmsax]

“So you know Giant Steps”? 😂

[@jesuscastaneda7328]

1:19 Bach: Dead again*

[@Saxologic]

😂😂😂

[@zapptuff5186]

Much as the discussions are no doubt tiring for players, it just goes to show the range and diversity of what you can get from the instrument. Awesome to see examples of what directions you can take with it creatively.

[@aidn5965]

That made me so happy to hear the Glazunov Concerto! I learned to play that last year for a concert.

[@KleinkMusic]

I think both interpretations sounded really cool! Another great one, Nate!

[@homierubikscubedude5]

This is literally just the right and left brain of a saxophone while practicing lol I always play my music in both styles to have fun lmao

[@judeseinermusic]

I think it’s super cool how the same line sounds like both classical and jazz depending on how you play it. You can really hear it in this video it’s super dope

[@ziomatthewmusic4205]

I have never been into jazz but I absolutely love classical sax. I definitely don't listen to enough of it!

[@xvarzka33]

Do you improvise? Yeah, sometimes. So you play..like...Giant Steps? Ahh a classic xDD

[@AlejandroCaicedoPUJ]

No careless whisper. Unsub

[@saxophonerman1239]

Agreed

[@Saxologic]

Lmaoooo haven’t heard that song in a minute

[@WinterJellifish]

I've never heard classical sax. I've impressed that a sax could sound that beautiful in that way

[@ProvenGroove]

I like the zoom into Bach's face - my kind of humor. Keep having fun with music 👍

[@abedinsubashi]

Now i wanna see a classical sax excerpt written as a sax soli

[@marmar120b2]

yoooo I was laughing so hard when you started playing Ibert at 4:55 because I was just practicing his concerto last year before covid took over. My instructor would not be happy with wat you played to say the least 😂

[@nikayahmonroe]

Song name?

[@marmar120b2]

@@nikayahmonroe Concertino Da Camera for Alto Saxophone

[@spacevspitch4028]

😂😂😂 Hilarious, but in all seriousness I love that you can get such polar opposite tones out of the same instrument. I love both!

[@FoolishFrankie]

LMAO the bebop articulation on the second part of the Glazunov concerto had me dead😂

[@martinlawrence1744]

Some of these were a bit... *SACRILEGIOUS*

[@jennahilton8259]

I N T E R E S T I N G

[@jeffreymom7209]

The jazz dude falling asleep... Lol

[@samfenix]

i found my people

[@martinlawrence1744]

@@samfenix welcome to the lingling outpost in the saxologic quadrant if youtube space

[@miriamcanoesteller7545]

Only if you are a classic sax player you can get all the wrong in there😂 otherwise you can think it's okay like a lot of these comments omg... if Ibert or Creston heard these they would DIE again.

[@Saxologic]

They definitely would die again lolll

[@steveyin7929]

Do some research on ibert’s sax concerto... he would actually love the jazz interpretation of his piece

[@KCCCX]

@@micahmazzella4501 it’s better to the cultural human ear. .. Western European music created a culture of conformity that isn’t really in most of the world music.

[@MrWhangdoodles]

I am a still living classically trained clarinet player. My soul started leaving my body when he played Bach, and not in a good way

[@MrWhangdoodles]

@@KCCCX Are you serious?

[@michaelbarna5777]

Jacob actually graduated from the school where I go now, we have a plaque of him on the wall from when he went to state band!

[@danie9596]

This was funny and educational! Thank you!! I am trying to learn how to develop my classical sound so I really appreciate this.

[@elyserho3287]

These videos are the equivalent of "here, i've fixed your art"

[@DaanSchreuder]

Bach's Cello prelude but its Coltrane changes

[@ixchelbetancourt9241]

I love this because I am classical flute player, but I play jazz saxophone/flute, and this is exactly how I would imagine my internal battle going on in my head on how something is supposed to sound.

[@sweetpotatoesarereallygood]

“you just have to vibe” that’s the best thing about jazz

[@RtsShrtFrRtthw]

I play bari saxophone, and I mostly stick to classical music; I couldn't play jazz to save my life. It requires an insane amount of skill, at least in my opinion. It's also really cool to see how individual musicians interpret music, and the different sounds they produce.

[@marcogue_]

There are two kinds of people: "Who prefers the sound of jazz saxophone and who lies."

[@christian5026]

@@ericolens3 classical music is anything but rebellious. Jazz is the rebellious style of music 😂 it rebels against the strict guidelines of sheet music. 1920’s? The lost generation? Anti-Victorian mentality? Ever heard of it? Jazz stems from the loss of morality that the First World War caused. The kids rebelling and listening and dancing to jazz. Flapper girls and drinking and promiscuity. To say classical music is rebellious is to say that Coltrane or Davis wrote Beethoven’s 5th. It’s ridiculous and completely not true 😂 you can not like jazz that’s perfectly fine, but don’t act like classical music is rebellious. Thats poster child music 😂

[@Yeahimreallydumb]

@@christian5026 pretty sure they meant rebellious for them because they’re parents didn’t like it as much but otherwise you’re right of course

[@claytonr.young-music912]

@@christian5026 Styles don't have rules-they have customs. When certain customs are abandoned, others appear.

[@emmetharrigan5234]

@@christian5026 your comment just shows you don’t study classical 😂

[@terralexj9468]

this was the exact discussion that took between the classical and jazz majors at my school last year

[@coltenreams3321]

I’ve been waiting for this for a while thank you😁

[@eg0t1st1k4l]

“Did Coltrane make that?” HAHAHAHAHA

[@PigGoMeow]

notifications are on a whole new level.

[@lauratoll1295]

Jacob was amazing! Thank you for making me aware of him!

[@johnsmith-pw7oj]

loved the dinamics on the classical player, fantastic

[@helene42]

What we learned from this video: "It's just the vibe!!!" 😅🎷

[@downtownelijahbrown]

I LOST IT AT THE CRESTON OVER GIANT STEPS 😭

[@gloriaflores7664]

Love how one was arguing with reason and logic and the other was arguing with “it’s just wrong” and “that doesn’t matter”- a Sax player

[@ely6773]

I’m so proud that I recognized all these pieces

[@Saxologic]

You are a true master

[@ashsnyder5936]

Wait, what are the pieces? I’m trying to find some good classical pieces to try on my saxophone.

[@ely6773]

@@ashsnyder5936 Glazunov concerto in Eb op.109 are the first 2, then it’s Ibert concertino da camera twice, then it’s avec vigueur all are super great pieces

[@babyyoda6567]

These are literally like the 3 most famous saxophone classical pieces lmao

[@Spicey123]

Yo why this man keep busting into peoples house’s, flexing his jazz self

[@DimIsHigh]

"It's just about the vibe" absolutely murdered me 😂

[@nathanielgarcia7549]

Yessss! I’ve been waiting for thissss!!!

[@jioonn]

Ah yes, I loved playing the Jazzunov Concerto

[@sebastiansprotte2551]

Basically Nathan trying to hide his classical chops 😅

[@Saxologic]

Just a bachelors in both. I am currently working on a masters in jazz.

[@Saxologic]

@KeananC Thanks! Uploading a vid now :)

[@RandomAwesomeism]

brilliant. worthy sequel.

[@SavvySaxy]

As someone who has played a bit of jazz and a bit of classical, I loved this. Personally like jazz a heck of a lot more, classical music feels more like an office job, but that’s probably just because I haven’t played it in over a year.

[@totallyfake2852]

5:16 you could play that over Rhythm Changes and it'd be pretty darn hip!

[@onesyphorus]

now I wonder how Parker played Classical pieces

[@emmetfettig9196]

Maybe I am a jazz snob but I absolutely loved the jazz interpretations of the lines 😂😂

[@tomography9878]

the long awaited sequel is finally here

[@benjaminteiglandsolvang361]

I’m a simple man. I see creston, I click.

[@Saxologic]

That’s the only men we need!