What Rick Beato Missed about George Benson's Playing on The Ghetto

[@ChaseMaddox]

What did you think of this video? Would love to hear your thoughts below 👇

[@wesboundmusic]

I wholeheartedly concur with most anything you mention here! Carol Kaye also said once in an interview: "Learn your chordal notes" and like you was opposed to the scale-centric approach to learning Jazz. So yeah! I'm with you and freagging cool playing along and breaking it down! I subscribed, looking forward to exploring more of your content here, awesome! (I must have sensed that the approach all my former teachers followed was off for me; today you and Carol Kaye before more or less confirmed my hunch from back then, thanks guys)

[@ChrisGill-s4s]

As per your request, here's my thoughts. I love learning new things, and so appreciate those who share on various platforms and have I have even invested financially in some of their organized theorems and concepts on occasion. I don't appreciate in any way however how pointing out or attempting to point out how someone else is "totally missing the boat". I am disappointed with anything that ultimately (albeit perhaps not intentionally) is divisive and suddenly upending such a positive communal/community sharing experience. I'll keep watching, but will probably abandon any who trend towards the dark side of building an ever increasing following if the messages are such.

[@alchemysticgoldmind4164]

I think Beato is a Genius..but The problem I have with him and others is information vs Application..he has Great info,but he needs to teach more application.

[@alchemysticgoldmind4164]

I purchased the book call Note Grouping ..it Cost me 35.00! (Small book)But the two things I got from it were 1.Play(solo) and read in Phrases. No scales.Don't play and read within bars ..play and read statements words phrases like a singer. 2.The author studied and transcribed loads of classical pieces ,compositions,solos and many other styles.He also listened to numerous recordings and found the one thing in common was Great players accent the WEAK BEATS..or the Ands..not 1 2 3 or 4...

[@ChaseMaddox]

@@wesboundmusic thanks for sharing that quote from Carol Kaye, and for watching! Glad to have you subscribed! 🙏

[@JunIbasco]

Totally agree with teaching scales. I remember when I worked for Jimmy Bruno editing his videos. He hated the over analysis of his solos. He doesn’t like it when people analyzes his lines and say he used the melodic minor scale. He was playing language, not scales. He would go, “how the f**k would you know what I’m thinking about?!” That was quite a lesson for me.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for sharing that example 🙏 I think there can be value in analyzing the details of what notes/scales make up the vocab a guitarist uses, but we can’t lose the fact that those are descriptions of the vocab, not the language itself.

[@JunIbasco]

@@ChaseMaddox When it comes to tune analysis, though, my main guy is Barry Greene! Totally opened my understanding of the melodic minor and the diminished scales. Love your channel! More power!

[@lewistaylor1701]

I couldn't get pass that you "worked for Jimmy Bruno"! Nice! I was a member in his online teaching and love his current videos.

[@kevindean1327]

Jimmy is awesome!!!

[@michaelvarney.]

Who cares what Jimmy (love him) cares about how others analyze his music? Some people derive joy and understanding relating how Jimmy thinks about things to how they think about things.Just because Jimmy might not have been thinking about the melodic minor scale does not mean he was not using the melodic minor scale… or that what he did is not described by the melodic minor scale.

[@Mattrace]

I love Rick, and I love you. The debate / disagreement you’re (politely) engaging in makes us all learn and think more, which is a win win. Thank you ❤

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for saying that. I hope it’s clear my purpose here is to help people come to a greater understanding and ability to play guitar. Sometimes the best way to do that is discussing very popular ideas being put forward that I strongly believe are wrong.

[@KBMars]

Rick ist actually pretty off in his analysis and it's great to see it politefully addressed, as he it so influential as a usually brilliant educator.

[@bobparsonsartist564]

I lovE Beato, BUT am so glad to hear you bring this out!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Glad you did! Thanks 🙏

[@VinnyValentino]

Hey Chase, Great content! I agree with your assessment of Rick's video. However, In my years of teaching, I've noticed that every student learns differently and eventually develops their unique style as a player based on how they approach and absorb the material. Notes, arpeggios, scales, chords, and all the theory in between ultimately depend on the individual-how their brain works and how they think about music. I completely agree with the idea of keeping things simple; the path of least resistance is often the most effective. That said, it’s not the only path. When you sit down with George, he doesn’t just want you to copy him; he encourages you to find your own way of doing things, which is invaluable. Thank you so much for putting out this content. The value you're adding to the guitar community is truly immeasurable.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your comment and support! I think the big thing I have an issue with here is that Rick doesn’t even mention the idea of vocab or phrases here. I’m not anti-scale because I agree with you that it can be useful to know them and some people find them helpful. However this presentation of the material was missing that very important piece. We’re coming at it from different sides and you all get to enjoy the benefit of our different perspectives 🤘

[@JazzCatzs]

Love this lesson and showing such an efficient way to play a 2 octave min7b5 arpeggio- thank you

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for checking it out and commenting!

[@RickMcCargar]

Great explanation. When I learned solos from Dickie Betts and Duane Allman, I don't analyze them in terms of scales/modes etc., I "hear" their references to other musicians I know they admired, along with their own takes on those licks/riffs/bits

[@ChaseMaddox]

That’s a great way to think about it! 👍

[@iggyward]

Learning phrases and playing phrased solos is way more fun and makes a lot more sense than running up and down scales -there's a place for that in your training but the language and phrasing is what your communicating to your audience. Nobody would write down the alphabet backwards and forewards and claim it was an interesting story.

[@ChaseMaddox]

I agree! Thanks for watching 🤘

[@caprise-music6722]

Great video! I was struggling with that arpeggio after watching Rick’s video, so I sat down with my guitar thinking, there has to be an easier way of playing this, and I actually figured it out by myself. Nice to see that I was right. It felt so much more fluid and natural this way. Again excellent video!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Great job putting it right to use! 🤘

[@KBMars]

Db9 without the root = Fm7b5 from the third and Abm6 from the fifth. So the F makes the crucial difference, wheras Abm7 would demand a Gb. You could just switch between Gb and F, to outline Abm7 and Db7.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Yes that’s all true, but the real point is that it’s not at all what was described or how improvisers approach playing over changes.

[@KBMars]

​@@ChaseMaddoxright, and as you pointed out Benson likes to use the halfdiminished arpeggio, which he himself learned to apply from Wes

[@adolfohuet3974]

That brings clarity!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks Adolfo 🙏

[@trent.langley]

Excellent tone..

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks man!

[@44goomba]

Brotherman…well stated..all about the language..congrats on your new guitar and new look.peace.M

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for the support, man! 🙏

[@Avatar7x7]

Thank you so much for your analysis and breakdown…. There’s countless theory heads on social media that make you feel like you have to learn a boatload of theory to be able to play like a Benson or some aspects of people like Benson’s style…. Definitely respect Music theory, but these people are Monday morning quarterbacks doing a analysis of greatness and trying to make you feel like this is what the artist themselves were actually thinking when they put the stuff together, so I’m glad you exposed that fallacy. ! Thanks again

[@ChaseMaddox]

I appreciate your comments and your point about people feeling like they need to learn a lot of theory! The goal should be to play music, not scales 👍

[@WalterDavis-n3x]

Great stuff Chase, thanks!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks Walter, glad you dig it!

[@ishaq24722]

I think I get what you're saying. As a student learning improvisation, I have noticed that arpeggios lead to melodic phrases outside of the formal arpeggio.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Glad it makes sense to you 🤘

[@ishaq24722]

@@ChaseMaddox Thank you, brother and you have a new subscriber!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Glad to have you here!

[@Newpr3toria]

Chase: thanks for the analysis, and I have a question: I am an amateur jazz student and I often feel that it is not appropriate to use licks such as the Donna lee one you mention. Even if many others do that all the time , I feel bad about it (like: i'm not being "creative"). Any idea on how to let go of that feeling? Also : I purchased a long time ago the Beato book and although I like his videos very much, his book is just horrible, and pedagogy is nowhere to be found.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for the question and for watching the video! I think the first thing you really need to understand, which it sounds like you don't quite believe yet, is that all master improvisers are building from language they've learned from others before them. Great authors don't re-invent every word to express a new story; they use existing vocabulary in a new WAY, sometimes discovering new words along the way. The second thing I would say is you need to learn vocabulary one piece at a time and really 'play' with it. Sing the phrase, play it on different strings and positions, work it into different songs, see where it fits and where it doesn't, vary the rhythm, add some notes, take some out...explore the phrase to really understand how it functions and how you can use it. That takes a lot of work but it's worth it because then that phrase is really yours and it will authentically be part of your improvisations as you continue to build new vocab into your playing.

[@Newpr3toria]

@@ChaseMaddox Thanks!

[@matteolatinov6630]

Nice one man! Curious what you think about barry harris's approach, as I think it's pretty scale-oriented?

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks! Here's a whole video on what I think: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4aQXp2aqr-Jq9U

[@arielgioino]

Great video, I think the hardest thing is how we learn the jazz vocabulary! Thinking about that so many scales is overwhelming to me....I really like learning phrases or licks, as a vocabulary. I like also a concept that a teacher told me before, relating arpeggios (3-4 notes), with the pentatonic with the full scale (7 notes). Always thinking chords and adding some notes plus chromaticisms now and there

[@ChaseMaddox]

Yeah, the amount of info to process is crazy! You need to find a path that allows you to learn without getting overwhelmed 👍

[@Stemma3]

I don't want to be a hater, but Rick knows about theory, modes, scales, arpeggios and production... but he over-analyses everything when the composer/improviser might not be thinking about that AT ALL. I remember there was a Blink182 video when he was talking about Csus4 chord when it was just a F melody over a C5 chord, he was almost implying that they were thinking about Csus4 when most of the time you play a note over a chord, sounds great, and that's it. In another video he talks about a Rolling Stone song (I think it was Angie), and he talks about a chromatic line because the song goes something like G Gsus4, A Asus4 (B C C# D line) when in reality it can be that they use G and A and they fool around with suspensions.

[@ChaseMaddox]

I can’t speak on what he’s said in other videos and I don’t watch many other KZbin videos in general, because it takes so much time to make content for my own channel. Thanks for watching 👍

[@Stemma3]

@@ChaseMaddox To make it short, Rick goes "X thought about Lydian here" when there's a chance the artist is just using something he liked or going for try and error until he finds something. My best friends likes to make songs, he knows NOTHING about theory. A lot of his songs are en Dorian mode or Lydian, impossible for him to think about that. Good video.

[@MicCostanzo]

Hey Chase, and another great video from you. You always do an amazing job and your tutorials have helped me occasionally to take new approaches to teaching my students things in a different way. But with all the respect you show Rick, Mr. Beato has unfortunately shown a few times that he is not that receptive to other points of view. 😆

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your comment, and I'm honored that you use some of my approach to teach your students. I'm not looking for a response from Beato because it's not really about him, it's about the ideas he's presenting. He may take it the wrong way, but I feel like I presented him in his own words and was explicit about not knowing why he might have said things in the way he did.

[@ReinholdBinder-d9n]

I totally agree. Scales are a good foundation; but also a pain in the arse in the long run. It is difficult to get them out of your system and finger memory in order to develop your own phrasing. Playing linear running scales over chord changes says nothing Its just like the letters of the alphabet in a certain language. Phrasing means building words and sentences. Listen to the first 7 notes of Joe Pass Solo in Cavalerie. That was an eyeopener for me. Very simple. Very effective.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Well said! Thanks for your comment 🙏

[@TheRealSandleford]

Chase hey. Much enjoyed this video! I like that you are exploring and thinking about what is logical. I quite like playing with scales even though its not especially music.... but for sure if you want to play music, its like parker said, (Ill always remember) learn and forget....I love that record and Bennys back... Bebop! Great analogies its like talking to a foreigner and they recite the alphabet.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your comment and the great analogy!

[@kevinmaddox]

Great video bruv! 👏👏👏

[@ChaseMaddox]

Great editing! 👌

[@kevinmaddox]

@@ChaseMaddoxmore like fast editing 😅

[@groovebasss]

Great video Chase ! Totally agree with your analysis. Rick is a great guy, but makes a mistake a lot of people with music theory knowledge do : using theory as a recipe to improvisation. Theory is a very valuable tool, but using it like this to create music is a very dangerous path (Bach might be the only successful one), that leads to nonsense such as bebop scales. Barry Harris demonstrated how bebop musicians were doing their thing, using chromatisms with rhythm, arpeggios and scale fragments, and there is no bebop scale in this, it is way richer than just a series of notes you're supposed to use to sound bop. People tend to forget that rhythm is the key when playing melodies, written or improvised.

[@ChaseMaddox]

I totally agree. I’ve seen many students who have bought into this approach waste years trying to make it work and eventually get frustrated and quit. When I heard a few of my CGA students mentioning this video I knew I had to present my take so they didn’t get caught in this same trap.

[@gianni.chiarello]

Beato is a Berklee graduate and uses the Berklee system to explain this stuff...which is just one of the ways to communicate amongst musicians...how Benson thinks about it? We'd have to ask him.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Sure, but for all the reasons I present in the video, Beato’s not even accurately describing what Benson is doing. I’m not talking about getting in Benson’s head.

[@PeteCalandra]

FYI Beato went to Ithaca for undergrad (great music program) and New England Conservatory for grad work. He has talked about this in past videos.

[@ChaseMaddox]

That’s great, but I judge people’s teaching based on their teaching, not based on where they went to school.

[@gianni.chiarello]

@@PeteCalandra thank you for the clarification. NEC has often shared tutors with Berklee (at least when I was there!) that's why his way of analysing and communicating things always feels familiar to me

[@pifrei3272]

That's what I thought, too, then I rememberd he never was at Berklee. but still I think you americnas are very much infiuenced by "the Berklee" system. I attended a very good music academy here in Europe and we hardly ever spoke about scales. And I don't think Dizzy, or Bird, or Thelonious did. It's all about approaches. Aproache the note that you want to emphasize. We had a whole course that was only focused on "chromatic approach to a note" which was great. I still don't think about scales when playing (I'm a pro guitar player today) but much more how to embellish notes. And I teach that to my guitar students today...

[@scottswan62]

I understand and appreciate the need for clarification, but I need to dig deeper into both your and Rick's video. I agree that the wider context of the isolated part of the solo would lead to a better understanding. But your video seems to want to address a perspective/opinion that Rick was not trying to make. I am going to give a very close listen for better accuracy.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Please do! Let me know what you think afterwards. I did my best to quote Rick directly and don’t believe I took him out of context.

[@SzabacsiNandor]

Totally agree with you, Chase! There was no incorrect or arguable idea from you! 💪

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnresciniti4290]

I haven't watched your entire video yet. So far the thing that you both missed is that Benson SINGS EVERYTHING he plays! He's playing along with the voice in his head. Playing along on the guitar and his physical voice. That voice in your head is what GB has that so many other players don't.

[@ChaseMaddox]

He doesn’t always sing along with his solo though? Idk that saying he’s “singing along” in his head is worth commenting on because to me that just means really hearing what you’re playing. For example, I can’t sing well, but I “sing along” with my solo in my head. How does knowing that help you understand his solo?

[@alchemysticgoldmind4164]

@@johnresciniti4290 All Great ones do it Hendrix,Slash, Yngwie and Van Halen

[@MusicMotivator]

Monster! Great stuff Chase!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for watching! 👍

[@seanmurphy7953]

Gained a sub brother. Amazing content

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks Sean! Appreciate you watching, and glad to have you here 🙏

[@grantgre]

George you're right he doesn't and he probably didn't study scales like that back in the day you know he is going off of musical phrases that's why he sounds so good all the time and his stuff does not sound like a scale that's number one number two I have heard that he actually builds for his solos especially on the breezing album to select pieces or I guess his improvisations that sounded really good on that section and peace mailed them together as the final product and then he went back and memorize that so he could always play when he's playing if you noticed when he plays a lot of his tunes live he plays the solo from the album which is also very amazing you know he has an amazing memory for Music that's for sure. If you see him on his George Benson I mean and he's trying to explain what he's doing he doesn't explain it at all in terms of any scales he said you know it's like this… It's like that and he licks that he he lick his licks simple licks most of the time yes they are blue licks but they're not just like a four lick you know it can go on for eight beats or something like that. I like that new GB guitar want to hear that plugged into the amp and sounding like GB guitar

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for sharing your comment, although I think I had a stroke reading that gigantic run on sentence lol 😂

[@grantgre]

@@ChaseMaddox it's run-on because I was dictating it from my parked car ha ha and I couldn't edit it because I had access KZbin from another app my Gmail and apparently it won't let you edit it so I redid it I edited it but you know I have a lot to say I'm sorry and I have I have met him and played with his sidemen Stanley Banks and Mel Davis and you know I'm almost one of the cats you know.

[@grantgre]

And I have had four George Benson guitars the GB 10 blonde the GB 112 iced tea burst and a GB 112 cherry burst and now I have the cheap model sounds as good as all of them which is amazing to me

[@grantgre]

you gotta know how to pick the George Benson guitar you have to put the pic at a slight angle and it has to be almost in between the pick ups maybe a little towards the bridge up to get that bell tone

[@ChaseMaddox]

Haha I'm just joking around. I appreciate your comment 👍

[@suzannecoholic1467]

Woot! Been listening to Benson since the 60s. He's definitely NOT a scale player. Looking forward to your take on his vocabulary.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you! Hopefully done for next week 🤘

[@fduffer]

Man this is fantastic advice and you can PLAY👍🏻

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for checking it out! 🙏

[@craiglacour8887]

that lick sounds like Donna Lee 11:54

[@ATX0705]

I'm a big fan of Rick Beato, but great video here! Do you have a guitar tab of the Benson solo here you and Beato are talking about?

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you! I'm sharing the full transcription for members of Chase's Guitar Academy, and next week I'll share a PDF with Tab of the best vocab to get from this solo. That PDF you'll be able to get for free 👍

[@ATX0705]

@ChaseMaddox Awesome! I'll have to look into your guitar Academy!

[@ChaseMaddox]

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[@samtotheg]

great video

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@b-perfection9305]

amazing video, thanks

[@ChaseMaddox]

I appreciate your comment 🙏

[@thirdcoastswing5334]

I wonder if he was using that bebop language to kind of have a teaching moment and then explain Db bebop scale . Does Rick do that often ?

[@ChaseMaddox]

Not sure I would consider any of that teaching to be honest. It’s like opening a fire hydrant of information on someone’s head and expecting them to not feel thirsty afterwards.

[@jeremyversusjazz]

There’s a reason barry harris hated and never used or talked about anything called a “bebop dominant” scale. There’s just the dominant scale with years of vocabulary built off of it. Great vid bro.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you! 🙏

[@christianwoodberry8873]

Ok so ik he definitely can't speak on what benson was thinking you are right but i think it's more of that scales are taught wrong cause i have definitely tried to transcribe solos and copy and paste the phrases into other songs but then it's just ok I'm done with this phrase next phrase and so on but when i think scales and arpeggios and throw in some licks from a song everything flows better

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for this comment as it’s something I should probably clarify in another video. Improvising is not just connecting a full phrase to another full phrase. There is also musical “connective tissue” in a solo such as scales, arpeggios, enclosure, chromaticisms, and more that unite the phrases. Those things I call Essential Jazz Patterns.

[@christianwoodberry8873]

@ChaseMaddox I love that term lol you just summed up what I was trying to say except you said it way better

[@mikewhelan9561]

great one

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you!

[@luranzaechols8303]

Excellent 🎉

[@ChaseMaddox]

Cheers! 🤘

[@Turybegood]

All I can Say Is WWOOOOOWWW!!!! You Nailed it

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for watching and commenting! 🤘

[@GreenpointRemembers]

Hell yeah, different thinking, different results, not one result thought one way by the guy who did it and thought another way by some other guy listening and analyzing the result that the other guy never would have done in the first place.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for watching 🤘

[@elkeism]

I agree with rick on the Db :(

[@ChaseMaddox]

Say why? What specifically is Benson playing that would be called Db Bebop Dominant scale? And, more importantly, is that actually the approach Benson is taking based on the context of his solo and past solos?

[@thirdcoastswing5334]

Great video . I know your going for the click bait title and its a good 1 ! Also i think your actually disagreeing with Rick . I think Rick prob uses scales and theory to explain his ideas and other guitarists . I also agree w you that its better to listen and learn language more than using scales / modes etc . To improv and to talk about improv. Thats just it though. Its prob great to have both under the belt. Everyone that has a youtube video teaching guitar probably knows how to do both. Everyone thats good i mean lol. Like you ! Keep up the great work man ! Your videos are great ! Would love to contribute something to you. Do you prefer patreon ?

[@ChaseMaddox]

Haha I had even more clickbait titles, but I thought this one was accurate without being inflammatory. I’m definitely disagreeing with Rick. The problem is not using music theory to understand the details of what’s being played. The problem is suggesting that it’s the scales themselves that allow you to play the music. Most people miss that critical distinction. I don’t have Patreon, but if you want to support the best ways are to check out what I offer in Chase’s Guitar Academy or become a KZbin member. Cheers 🤘

[@michaeldawson8487]

Qué caradura para usar a Rick Beato en el título de este video! 🤣

[@ChaseMaddox]

How so?

[@womplestilskin]

I think all guitar "education" used to mainly talk about licks, which is exactly you are talking about when youre talking about vocabulary.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Yes and no. I think people tend to view “licks” as isolated ideas whereas “vocab” connects with other vocab, just like in speaking a language. Talking about licks without also talking about how they relate and connect other ideas has its own issues as just talking about scales.

[@jtbrown1]

Probably nothing wrong with teaching scales, that's equivalent to teaching the letters of the alphabet. But knowing letters is a long way from knowing words, which is why teaching phrases (I noticed you didn't use the word "licks") is just as important. And we need to normalize that it's ok to have an arsenal of phrases that we reuse, and it's still improvisation.

[@ChaseMaddox]

For improvisation, scales are important to know why certain notes are generally played together over certain harmony. Trying to create a good solo using scales reminds me of that story asking how many monkeys it would take typing randomly to generate the next Shakespeare. All the best players have tons of phrases they reuse. And even some they plan out for the “improvised” solo, but we’re not ready for that conversation 😅

[@mbmillermo]

Thank you! I saw Beato's video and I was very surprised by what he was saying. It did not ring true. But he was studying the solo in detail, so he must know, right? I guess not. Adding to what you said: The min7♭5 arpeggio sounds like it was pulled out of a Charlie Parker solo. The example you pulled up later sounded almost exactly like part of the head of "Donna Lee". I think you have it right. Beato's chord-scale approach, which is very jazz-school oriented, is not at all how the greats learned and played. The fast playing is really about developing a vocabulary of a few hundred short lines that can be stuck together (arpeggio and scale fragments, enclosures, etc.). We also need to be able to play a melody off the cuff. I'm going to be studying more of your stuff.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your comment and support 🙏

[@dennisschuetzeband]

I like Rick and treasure his publicistic work (interviews etc.). His teaching approach and books are a waste of time and money though, sorry.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for watching 🙏

[@valentineikediashi1091]

Chase, you still talking about George Benson? Peter is gonna come for y'all soon😂😂😂😅😅

[@ChaseMaddox]

Why wouldn’t I be talking about him?

[@travislyon6029]

Great video, but you and Rick are both wrong. The secret to playing like George Benson is being George Benson. All you need to do is be George Benson. It's that easy. Also a Fm7b5 and a Db7 or Db9 are the same thing and T-Bone Walker has known that before all of us and Benson. Fight me.* *Not really, this was a great video and I get a lot from both your and Rick's explanations!

[@ChaseMaddox]

lol thanks for this comment! F-7b5 and Db7 are not actually the same thing though. One has a Db and the other doesn’t. You can use them as substitutes for each other in many cases, but not all. What I described in this video is the process of how George Benson became a master improviser, which agrees with the point you’re trying to make?

[@travislyon6029]

@@ChaseMaddox I'm just being needlessly difficult of course because this is the internet! As I said, enjoyed the video (and your others) and explanations. And also of course, the transcriptions. I know those take a lot of time and work so thanks for making them available to all of us in these videos!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Haha all good! I think this is an important area to be super clear about because it really does confuse many well-intentioned people who want to learn to play guitar but get overwhelmed by the chaos of seemingly conflicting information and advice. I appreciate your comments 🤘

[@samtotheg]

benson is playing from the 3rd of the Db7 chord(the fmin7) its common in jazz to play from the 3rd giving you that 9th sound its THAT SIMPLE.

[@samtotheg]

You can hear chet baker use that same arpeggio in youd be so nice to come home to near the beginning of his solo!

[@LIKEFUNK]

I watched the interview and appreciated the mention from Benson that he played by ear from the start, I think if anyone scales or pigeon-hole 'restricts' or even imply's such in any structure they are guilty of improvisation itself, if a piece can't be whistled or be sung in the shower it's not memorable nor going to be a hit! -enough of the artzy-fartzy passive aggressive hair splitting stuff thanks...basic is always the road ahead because it leaves room for surprise

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your thoughts! 👍

[@LIKEFUNK]

@@ChaseMaddox Your welcome, I hope it helps anyone reading it likewise.

[@siriusra2692]

,.......I totally agree........all the greats.......Benson......Metheny......Becker.......Davis......Coltrane.......Coleman.......etc,etc.......seem to all be phrase focused 90% of the time they solo.,...took me a while to see that.......

[@ChaseMaddox]

🤘🤘

[@pascaljeanne8002]

oh man great ! lol !

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for checking it out

[@Stephenloizos]

rick without discounting his talented contributions relates all compositions to musical theory; scales, modes, in example to the creative process, he has a hard time understanding that a solo or song is either an artist hearing from the source, whether god and or the unconscious theoretical history in the inspiration of the moment. In other words, studying theory and practicing SHOULD NOT be in the moment of composition and soloing; you are hearing what to play without presupposing music as a mathematical multiple possibility for effect. Beato can analyze the music theoretically AFTER the composition and after the solo but that often was not the intended effort at that time. Yes, the soloist might think quickly " I'll put a a min7th flat five arpeggio- but the soloist cannot construct every part of the solo that way. A Benson blues lick line (to me ) can be interpreted as a scale but analyzing that after the event serves no purpose because improve is an art of tension and release and is a mini melodic composition in the spirit of your soul. Like many revered jazz artists have said, if you have to think what you're going to do, you can't play.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Well said! Thanks for watching!

[@babsbuy]

You can explain it without gauging with other's way of explaining things. Beato probably is wrong on you or Benson's perspective, he was just explaining or shall i say describing it on his own way. And the way he explained it on the video is not the "I know it right on" approach nor he claimed it as the most accurate explanation. Beato doesn't know all, but he surely knows 1000x more things than you.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Explaining concepts in contrast to another’s idea is a very effective method in many situations. I’m sure he knows 10000x more than me!

[@babsbuy]

@@ChaseMaddox I saw that video when it came out, Beato was not even labeling it as a "tutorial", he was just describing or simply comprehending the greatness of that particular Benson solo. Obviously, he didn't make any in depth study on that. He could simply ask Benson if he wants to, he has that access or privilege. Beato could go deep if he wants it to, but sometimes he just tends to explain or describe things plainly or just impromptu. Even on the people that he interviews, it is really obvious that he knows far too deep than what these people are taking about, but I think he is on the stage of his "maturity" that he understood some "knowledge" is personal and he needs to go with that. That's why people like me want to watch more of his videos. Peace. God bless.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Knowing and teaching are two different things 🙏

[@cyrusjerome]

The only thing i hate about Beato is his chronic haterism. You people that think modern pop music and rap or whatever genre is “lesser” than the genres you listen to make me sick. You’re not an artist and if you are i hope you give up one day.

[@ChaseMaddox]

I understand you might feel that way, but I would like to keep the conversation relevant to the points I bring up about his teaching method, and not personal attacks on Beato 🙏

[@dustyparker4806]

He doesn’t hate, he just points out how bad current music is now days. That isn’t “hate”. There is a massive difference in George Benson and today’s music. Auto-tune, computer beats, no deep lyrics, no dues paid, no musical knowledge or hard work. No practice. It isn’t just preference or taste in music, Benson has more talent in one finger nail than all of todays pop, country, rap, rock etc. And Beato is a great teacher.

[@samtotheg]

@@dustyparker4806 how bout atonal guitar tunings and screaming over blast beats that metal garbage is unlistenable except to a smaller segment of the population . Beato comes off lowkey racist cuz the artists or the style of music he chooses to disparage.

[@dustyparker4806]

@ …..racist?? Seriously? He “comes across racist” because “you” feel that…. because you don’t know what that word even means. Welcome to 2024 folks. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@jazzguitarneophyte-christo7988]

Rick Beato thinks he knows everything....just saying.....

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for watching 🤘