Ordered a Silverado with a 5.3 V8 in February. This video just reassures me that I made the right choice. Great video, thanks for sharing.
@JoHNSmith-fh3vf2 жыл бұрын
Just recently bought a 2022 Blue Chevy Silverado Custom like in the video more stripped down for under 40,000. I was more interested in a fuel efficient vehicle but price outweighed the importance of gas so I got the 4 cylinder 2.7 L turbo. I'm happy with my purchase I'm glad that I got the 4 cylinder. Thanks for the review I've been looking for a video of the new 2022 Silverado.
@craigking7218 Жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a 22 Silverado Trail Boss with the 2.7L Turbo and I love it. I was leery about not getting the V8 but after driving the 4 I was sold. I have towed a 6000lb boat and it tows just as good as my last tundra 5.7. I get pretty decent mileage at 18 mixed (lead foot). The only complaint I could try to make is that its quiet and I miss the V8 rumble. It has plenty of torque and will merge or pass just as well as any V8 truck out there. No complaints here. Any one worried about the small motor should try it out and drive it for awhile it might change your mind. I only have 5k miles on mine so I can't speak to longevity, but I think it will be just fine.
@bobwiley6221 Жыл бұрын
MythBusters did a test on pickups with tailgate up, down and with a canopy. The tailgate up got the best MPG. They found the wind hits the tailgate, swirls forward and actually pushed forward helping the fuel economy.
@richardsmith8289 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember that episode
@alphasaiyan5760 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir you are correct 👍This is true. Open bed with tailgate closed gives best fuel economy.
@dame5014 Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen that episode, thank you all for verifying. I would assume, just like many others that it wouldn't have, only because if it does indeed pushes it forward. It would be cancelling itself out after accounting for the negative impact on the tailgate initially..... 🤔 I'm still gonna remove my bedcover 😉
@badasstigeroscar74448 ай бұрын
So my truck is essentially part pirate ship you say
@syrupinacan35118 ай бұрын
The wind didn't hit the back of the tailgate in the show. An Eddie currently formed in the bed of the truck and was trapped by the tailgate. When air traveled over the roof, it was deflected by the Eddie current and went over the tailgate. The coefficient of friction of air on air is smaller than air on metal resulting in better gas mileage.
@hansgruber25092 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 2.7L Silverado and average 25+MPG on the Highway going between 60 and 65mph. MPG drops fast over 65mph, my best was 28MPG on a 200 mile trip. I love this engine
@fl_atv_riders44552 жыл бұрын
It's a good engine but I feel like it would be a much better fit in a Colorado or Canyon. If it can do that like you state think of what it would be like if was in a truck that's 1,800 lbs lighter.
@vtwrench1 Жыл бұрын
I also had 2020 GMC with the 2.7 averaged 24mpg daily best was 32 on a trip. Very good engine for a daily driver , I never towed with it. I had a 2017 with the 5.3 multidisplacement engine. Best mpg with it was 21 . It would be nice to see this engine in a Colorado/Canyon.
@chrisvoelkel43037 ай бұрын
I have a 2022 2.7 and I've gotten 30mpg regularly
@kylejames70562 жыл бұрын
I bought a 22’ 5.3L 1500 RST and I regularly get ~17-20mpg on the highway. Best I’ve gotten is around 24mpg in an ideal scenario. My first truck ever and I love it. Sure gas is expensive, but I knew that getting into the game so I’m not going to cry about it. It seems to me people need to learn to adjust some of their unrealistic expectations. Great video!
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kyle 👍🏾
@avidwaterfowler75222 жыл бұрын
I got similar as well with my 21 5.3 TB. I lifted the front an additional 1.75” and put on 295/70/18 that measure 34.25”x12”. Not I get 16.5 to 20 mpg.
@Joe---2 жыл бұрын
I agree 👍
@keithsurdyke25352 жыл бұрын
You might want to investigate the affects that dfm (dynamic fuel management or afm active fuel management) has on engine life with failing lifters and bent push rods. Auto start/stop isn't really good for the engine either.
@avidwaterfowler75222 жыл бұрын
@@keithsurdyke2535 that’s exactly why I bought my 2021 since those features were missing due to the chip shortage at the time. Gm gave me a few $50 dollars credits. Lol.
@fl_atv_riders44552 жыл бұрын
The 5.3 to me is one of the best all around engines on the market. Has plenty of power for 99% of the people good torque for towing and awesome fuel economy. I had a 2015 crew 4x4 fully loaded with a 5.3 I averaged 19 with 85% in town driving and up to 23.8 on trips.
@kfelix29342 жыл бұрын
I get approx 17/21 city/hwy in my 2014 if I stay around 65-68mpg. If I jump on 130 for example ( fast road in TX and Nation that's posted ) my hwy mileage drops.
@fl_atv_riders44552 жыл бұрын
@@kfelix2934 I'm in fl but driving on interstates cruising between 75-80 I would get around 22 and chang and with 33.5 inch tall toyos it was about 18.3
@joshuahedrick2 жыл бұрын
until you lose the lifters and chew up your cam. I would take the 5.3 of course and do an AFM delete but if I had to stay stock I would consider the 2.7
@fl_atv_riders44552 жыл бұрын
@@joshuahedrick iv had the first yrs displacement on demand and a 2015 put well over 142,000 miles on my 2010 and 107,000 miles on my 2015 never had any issues. As long as you service the vehicle correctly and change oils at 35% oil life and not 0 they really don't have issues. I personally have done repairs to other 5.3s with lifter failures and as soon as you pull the valve covers you can see oil staining on lifters and heads from improper services.
@joshuahedrick2 жыл бұрын
@@fl_atv_riders4455 I appreciate your real world experience. I have put 3 4.8L smallblocks thru 400,000 miles each. The 4.8 never had AFM. My dealer is replacing lifters on the new trucks under warranty on the 2019+ trucks. They are litterally failing under warranty. Maybe the earlier ones were better but the new AFM sucks.
@Rolando0832 жыл бұрын
JB these trucks now a days are super over priced I paid 34k out the door for my 2019 silverado 1500 LT with a 5.3 liter and that black truck is over 57k that's insane
@Back_door_bandit_982 жыл бұрын
Got my 2020 Silverado 3500 dually crew cab long bed 4x4 LT financed 60k with a 150k miles warranty.
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
Yea they have really jumped in price with no noticeable gain in features 👍🏾
@caryw02102 жыл бұрын
Agree, my new 2020 Ram 1500 Big Horn, 5.7 with 4x4 (and most options available at that trim level) was $38k. Feels like a steal based on prices these days
@johnbowhunter76762 жыл бұрын
I keep saying it…. “Nothing makes sense anymore “!
@brianvazquez68542 жыл бұрын
Got my 2020 z71 5.3 V8 custom for 45K … 5k under sticker price cash and NOBODY wanted to give it to me for cheaper. Now the same truck is close to 56K got me fucked up 🥴
@mangekyouuchiha882 жыл бұрын
Something people don't consider when choosing engine options is the amount of work an engine is doing. The 4 cylinder has half the cylinders so common sense is it should use half the gas, however that 4 cyl is working alot harder to move that 5,000lb truck compared to it's V8 counterpart. The fuel advantages of the 4cyl won't be evident unless except on long road trips where you are just maintaining your speed AND the cylinder deactivation has been disabled on the V8 (not as uncommon as you'd think). Outside of those parameters you won't see a noticeable difference in fuel economy. Especially with GM trucks, remember the pushrod V8 has been GMs bread and butter their entire existence from the small block Chevy, to the Gen III and IV LS engines to today. While other manufacturers switched to DOHC, GM continued developing and refining their Pushrod engines to the point where 6.2L V8 can match or exceed fuel economy of smaller displacement engines such as Ford's 4.6, and 5.0L engines. And despite using "old" technology still produce more power and torque
@sodbuster518able Жыл бұрын
Look at how many farm tractors have have 4 cylinder turbo and work hard for 5 and 10000 hours with no problems
@thewireman134 Жыл бұрын
It's also performing twice the work as a 5.3, at half the RPM
@LewisJohnsonIII Жыл бұрын
Turbo... The turbo matters...it does produce hp....
@mangekyouuchiha88 Жыл бұрын
@@thewireman134 GMs pushrod engines barely rev past 5k, 4cyl engines will easily rev past that running a load, every 4cy I've driven would shift right around 3-4k while in v8s I've driven you'd shift just under 2k. It will take more revs of a 4cyl, even a turbo one, to match an engine with twice the cylinders
@Christdeliverme Жыл бұрын
Really? That's the thing people forget the most? Seems like it's the very first thing literally everyone thinks about.
@TXPocks4 ай бұрын
2021 Silverado Custom 2.7 here. 52k miles and am still in love with this truck. “B” trip monitor has been running for 50k and is showing 19.7mpg. When I reset the “A” monitor and drive somewhat responsibly it’ll read over 25+mpg on the highway.
@MrHookthefish12 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 2.7 Silverado and I’m definitely loving it now with these high fuel cost! I’m in Newengland and just got back from dropping off my 5,800 LB travel trailer camper ( truck towing capacity is 9,100 lbs) 65 miles from my home. While towing I averaged 13 mpg while driving 60-65 mph highway but on the way home I got an average of 29 mpg doing the same speed without towing the camper. ❤️ing the power when I need to tow but saving fuel when I’m not towing. 90% of my driving is commuting to and from work and about 10% of the time I’m either towing my boat, camper or utility trailer. It suits my needs perfectly!
@jesserevilla9922 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome; I'm towing a Travel Trailer 6,040Lbs includes trailer & payload/ passengers. I'm capturing 10.5-11.0 MPGs @ 63-65 MPH. I actually captured better MPG's through the Tennessee & Georgia Hills 11.8-12.5 MPGs; The low-end Torque is clever and helps with MPGs. I thought the new 2022 2.7L is now 425LBs Ft of torque but still has 310 HPs. I feel JB not driving the trucks long enough to truly capture real MPG's. Attached you find my own video on my truck From Key Largo, FL to Big Pine Key, FL my MPH were 45 to 55 and look at my MPG's . Not it was dead calm and conditions were perfect. I'm avg 32-34 MPH kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKuaiXScrZJ2gKs
@INVERTEDBUKAKI2 жыл бұрын
wow 29mpg? my wife has a ford escape titanium 2.0 turbo and she averages 26 mpg. Smaller engine, lighter vehicle. how is that possible?
@jackdaniels26572 жыл бұрын
Why not just by the Ford maverick?
@johnbowhunter76762 жыл бұрын
@@INVERTEDBUKAKI it’s not!
@freedomliberty76112 жыл бұрын
29? Total BS. Unless you only drive downhill
@buddyfuentes2 жыл бұрын
I have the 2022 Silverado 4x4 with the four cyl. Turbo. I bought it December of ‘21, it has consistently given me 22 + mpg. I’ve checked (at fill up) the trip gauge many times and it is very accurate. As long as I don’t gun the engine and don’t exceed 72 mph the gas mileage is great. It is better around town or on country roads than on the interstate. I tow a 3500 pound boat and it gets around 19 mpg and you don’t notice the boat behind the truck. THe ‘22 Silverado has 310 horsepower, 430 f/p of torque, 9,000 pound towing capacity. I don’t know if it makes any difference than you test vehicle.
@z28ninja2 жыл бұрын
I have the '21 2.7, and my average is 20-21mpg. No regrets at all.
@Internet_Handles_Are_Dumb2 жыл бұрын
Worst case scenario, down the road if the 2.7 craps out, just buy a 5.3 from any other scrapped GM and run it. I know there will be some things that would be needed but it ain’t like it’s be rocket science to transplant that into a Silverado if you loved the truck but later hated the motor.
@TheIronCalves Жыл бұрын
I've seen lies before but never have I seen a lie like this.
@buddyfuentes Жыл бұрын
@@TheIronCalves Please explain…
@killanige2 жыл бұрын
3 years in and it's very hard to find negative reviews of the 2.7L. The biggest complaint is sound, which to me is a non issue. Most of the reviews I have read are positive.
@the_truck_farmer2 жыл бұрын
Let’s see it make it to 200k miles doing truck things (towing/hauling periodically ) without any major components failing…then we can give it A stamp of approval.
@yolosolonorthwest62822 жыл бұрын
The 2022 refresh 2.7 is amazing! it pulls hard! I picked it over the 5.3.
@Ptrixle2 жыл бұрын
I have the 2021 2.7, it's been absolutely perfect. The sound is my biggest complaint. I haven't pulled a trailer with it though, just use the bed to haul stuff. It's been great so far, I'm at 30k miles with zero issues.
@toddstarrett38462 жыл бұрын
@@the_truck_farmer Very few trucks are going to make it to 200,000 miles without having issues. A truck like this will fit a lot of peoples lifestyles. If you are pulling something regularly it isn’t probably the best choice but if it’s once a month or so it’s a great option.
@the_truck_farmer2 жыл бұрын
@@toddstarrett3846 A pre- displacement on demand GM roller cam fuel injected 5.7 or 5.3 (87-07) would go well over 200k if maintained.
@Hugoazul772 жыл бұрын
I still own a 8 cilinders truck at this moment and I just bought the 2022 Silverado 4 cilinder turbo 2.7L 2wd I live in Los Ángeles I am a truck person always so this time was hard to go for a 4 cilinder but due to the gas prices I finally got it!! big surprise I just hear all my coworkers crying 😭 every week over the gas. If you live on the city and deal with traffic this Chevy 2.7L is a blessed 🥰
@brokeduece16912 жыл бұрын
A turbo 4 banger with 430 lb torque. I will be getting the custom trailboss with the 2.7 turbo. I enjoyed the low end torque compared to the 5.3.
@mattlittle32112 жыл бұрын
I have had several trucks with the 5.3. Leased a new 2022 Silverado LT model in February. Due to the limited number of trucks, I went with the 2.7 turbo. I will admit that i was not sold on it at first but now after having it 8 months, I am happy with it. Drove it from Michigan to Florida in March and averaged 24.2 MPG with a best of 27.8 MPG. I hauled a 6500lb boat with it over the summer and was very impressed with the performance. It didn't accelerate fast but it did the job just fine. Turned the tow/haul on and set the cruise at 80mph and it didn't downshift on the hills like the 5.3 did. I assuming that was due to the turbo. Overall very happy with it but will admit that I'll probably go with the 3.0 duramax or 6.2 next time due to not knowing what the longevity of the 2.7 will be. FYI I think the road noise is from the lack sound insulation in the custom compared to the LT.
@63DW89A2 жыл бұрын
The 2.7 L Turbo 4 has higher torque at lower RPM, than the V8 and that is why it did't downshift as much as the V8.
@randomness50742 жыл бұрын
I think this would be alot more accurate if you drove them both at least 100 miles, plus the 2.7 is lifted/bigger tires etc.
@voided32 жыл бұрын
We own a '21 Silverado with the 5.3. First, the L84 Ecotec engine in the current generation truck has nothing in common with the 1999-2006 5.3 LS engine that everyone loves, other than the displacement and cylinder count, which I feel misleads a lot of truck shoppers with prior GM experience into thinking they are getting a variant of that same reliable engine. It's a completely different engine and it's not reliable in the long run. Second, our particular truck fell in the manufacturing date range for the manufacturing defect in the DFM lifters and sure enough, they failed at 585 miles. Four check engine lights, four dealer visits, three rental cars, and 51 days later, they finally figured it out and replaced four of the 16 lifters. The idler pulley and serpentine belt also had to be replaced at 6300 miles because they started prematurely failing. Non-mechanically, the bed was misaligned and the front seats had to be removed to fix a non-functional rear HVAC duct. The transmission also slams into 2nd gear if you don't hold it in neutral for a few seconds between reverse and drive and it idles really rough when cold. I drive the truck exclusively in L7 (8-speed transmission) to disable DFM as it greatly improves drivability, and may help delay the inevitable second round of lifter failure. If I had to do it over again, and it had to be a GM product, I would either get the new high output version of the 2.7 I-4 turbo with 430 lbs./ft. of torque or more likely a 3/4 ton with the 6.6 gas V8. It has truly been a terrible ownership experience and I can't wait to get rid of it.
@INVERTEDBUKAKI2 жыл бұрын
sorry to hear that, I had bad luck with my last two and went and bought a Ford in 2018 and couldn't be happier. I hope you get your situation situated.
@slscamg2 жыл бұрын
Can’t go wrong with the 6.6 and 6 speed combo. Probably the most reliable GM combos right now.
@freedomliberty76112 жыл бұрын
Why would you buy another GM? Use your head not your heart
@meganhall77952 жыл бұрын
Look at range technology to disable it.
@techs1smh132 жыл бұрын
200.00 range technologies plug into obd. Shuts off AFM. Engine and trans should go 200 k with nothing but maintenance
@mikeguthrie5432 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your assessment. Plus, the 8cyl has a pretty good track record. The 4 cyl turbo has yet to make a name for itself as it's only been available for a short while. "Time will tell".
@mikegreen87108 ай бұрын
It’s been out since 2019
@DarkKnight2.72 ай бұрын
You know how long I’ve been waiting for this? Wooo I’m abouta make a name for myself yea
@tomc88582 жыл бұрын
This video is a wonderful sales pitch for the 2.7. Thank you for the content! Very informative.
@davidhillbrand23022 жыл бұрын
Manufacturers have to play to the Government testing for the EPA ratings. Pure and simple - it's all about EPA especially these days with the CAFE standards headed to 40 MPG. Just like Fords Ecoboost, you can have either economy or power but not both at the same time. Personally, I would take a V8 all day long.
@krob53752 жыл бұрын
I have the 2020 Sierra 1500 4x4 with the 2.7L and so far have not been disappointed. Towing and payload are plenty for the average guy, the turbo is a bit laggy from a stop, but if your cruising down the road and step on it to pass, it feels darn near a V8. The fuel economy isn't quite as good as advertised but still decent. I traded in my 2016 Ram 5.7 quad cab and am not regretting it, probably saving $100 a month in fuel.
@Platinumplat420 Жыл бұрын
Have you beaten on the 2.7 ?
@Platinumplat420 Жыл бұрын
and does it still work after 5 months
@krob5375 Жыл бұрын
@@Platinumplat420 almost 3 years and counting and no issues yet besides a freak oil filter rupture which I think was just a bad filter. And I guess it depends on your definition of beating on it. I've hauled a bed full of A gravel which was pushing it capacity wise, most I tow is a pair of seadoos so not much there. I've gunned it plenty of times and the turbo hasn't given me any indication of problems. All in all, if your using it for everyday kinda stuff, it's been great. If your a HP guy or need to tow heavy stuff often, probably not the truck you want.
@zr1vetteman092 жыл бұрын
Something you didn't seem to mention is that the 4 cylinder truck is lifted. This has a significant effect on fuel mileage. I lost about 1.5-2Mpg lifting my truck 2" and that truck is at least leveled.
@tomfriend95302 жыл бұрын
It is a trail boss it comes from the factory lifted. It does not matter if its a 4 cylinder or the V-8.
@zr1vetteman092 жыл бұрын
@@tomfriend9530 while what your saying is obvious, it does matter in this comparison because it’s not apples to apples. A lift noticeably affects fuel mileage.
@XRPtheStandard589002 жыл бұрын
@@tomfriend9530 it matters. Have you ever looked at the charts those numbers differ from the different packages like trailboss and Ltz
@joshtaylor1416 Жыл бұрын
@@tomfriend9530it’s not even a trail boss
@marlinweekley5111 ай бұрын
Soo sounds like the “problem” was solved with the 5.3 what then was the reason for the 2.7?
@erikneddo7674 Жыл бұрын
I have 22 LTD with 5.3 I drive it from Texas- New York the best I got was 22.3 at 75mph mine don’t have the active fuel management. Love the 5.3 good power I had 21 with the 2.7 didn’t care for it
@bduros13392 жыл бұрын
My 2008 VMAX 6.0 gets around 14mgs avg between city / hwy. It currently has 385,000 miles on it. I replaced the transmission at around 280,000 miles, but other than that the only thing I've had to replace on the truck is the brakes/ tires/ oil. Now, I cannot speak for any other Chevy truck owners, but for my initial investment of $10,000 for this 08 VMAX leather, nav, sunroof, rear cam, tow pkg, 20" premium wheels, ect... I've completely converted from a Japan (Honda/Toyota) car enthusiast to an American Patriot!!!
@bduros13392 жыл бұрын
Also... I purchased the truck at 85k miles in 2013.
@scarhart532 жыл бұрын
Isn't a V-Max a Yamaha?
@TroLLhungery2 жыл бұрын
Tbh the 2.7t is really good, the turbo spools up really nice when you have the window down, tbh I haven’t had a issue with it now
@yoyoyoyi5006 Жыл бұрын
I have the 2022 one and the turbo does spool up but i got roasted by my 15 year old cusin he said it sounds like a rc truck i cant un hear it i need a V8 i cant trade 😭😭😭
@Solventless2024 Жыл бұрын
Put an catless downpipe on with a straight pipe and cold air intake and i bet it will beat a v8 and get way better mpg when that turbo can flow unrestricted.
@johngalt29312 жыл бұрын
First time towing with the 4cyl turbo Silverado. Towing open single axel trailer with Polaris Ranger. Low fuel light came on. Didn’t make it to the next exit. Ran out of gas on the exit ramp. Mpg towing was 10.3. Decent mpg when not towing. But if you find yourself under boost, watch out!
@kevincinnamontoast36692 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a you problem, you ran out of gas. Fill your tank up. What towing mpg do you get with a v8? I just think a turbo 4 is too gay. 55° is not too "chilly".
@1320fastback2 жыл бұрын
Boost is not just free power, it is dumping fuel in too.
@Seanhero902 жыл бұрын
I tow my Honda talonx4 and talon 4 with my 2021 2.7 and don’t fall below 15 mpg lol something is wrong with your truck
@defendingthefaith.78892 жыл бұрын
The worst would be about 20 miles per gallon.
@EricAnderson-dc1um2 жыл бұрын
This was a really good review. I have a 2018 Silverado 1500 5.3 with a six speed. I consistently get 20-21 measured highway with the engine fully broken in. City is right around 15. It was really good to see the comparison.
@INVERTEDBUKAKI2 жыл бұрын
I have owned 4 5.3 trucks over 20 years and always got 15 city 17/18 highway. Not driving hard but not like a grandma either.
@lethirreknight3852 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my 2015 with the 5.3 with the 6 speed for about 50k miles my avg overall 50k miles is at 16 on my trip gauge Driven in city about 14 down to 12 Highway 16 to 21 mpg depending on going up or down in elevation. I ride slightly heavier wheels 275 65 20 That knocked my fuel economy overall about 2 miles a gallon. With Larger displacement engines don’t you don’t need to squirt as much gas as the smaller displacement ones to keep up. overall they all are about the same all the way to the 6.2 the mileage is about the same.
@smiller2252 жыл бұрын
The 2.7 is a surprisingly good engine we just got several 2022s in our work fleet no one knew about the 4 cylinder. Everyone who drove them was shocked by the power compared to the 4.3. They didn't believe me when I told them it was a 4 cylinder.
@Mr.Beastforpresident2 жыл бұрын
The 4.3 gets much better Hwy MPG’s tho
@defendingthefaith.78892 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Beastforpresident impossible.
@larrywebb2224 Жыл бұрын
Just bought the 5.3 RST 4wheel drive. My mileage is right in line with your test truck!!!
@jonathanfreeman77612 жыл бұрын
I’m ready to try that 4cyl turbo in the Colorado and see how it does. I had the 2.8 diesel and loved it that torque was amazing. Drove from Missouri to Florida and back in my 21 Tahoe 5.3 10 speed and the computer said 22 average all highway at about 75-80.
@thewoodsman5261 Жыл бұрын
A four cylinder diesel is not the same a a 4 cylinder gasser especially when it's under the hood of a truck
@sgolecki Жыл бұрын
I can get the same mpg with my 06 Silverado LT-NO AFM! $11000,super comfortable,really clean,and NO problems like these new trucks have. Oh did I mention no payments on something that depreciates like a ROCK. No thanks-I’ll keep my old truck!
@jennydannyp72292 жыл бұрын
Great video ! I have 21 5.3 l unfortunately the lifters start chattering and the longevity is not there. This is my second truck from a gm buy back with lifters! I’m go today for the elevation 2.7 ! The lifters in the 5.3 have been a nightmare for gm! I believe 2.7 maybe replacing the 5.3 !
@JoshKetchum Жыл бұрын
My 1999 Z71 5.3 4x4 extra cab also got `17mpg' lol. Good content keep it up.
@tonyharmsen50812 жыл бұрын
JB, good job on the video. You need to know that when it come to gear ratio, the lower number (3.23) represents a higher gear. I.E., less take off power and better top end and economy. The 3.42 means lower ratio, better take off power and less on the top end and lower fuel economy.
@catsaregovernmentspies Жыл бұрын
We used to call them "taller" gears
@codysatterfield531620 күн бұрын
Thank you, my mind exploded everytime he would say that the lower number was better for take off and acceleration. As someone who pulls with a diesel and a 4:10 rear and and having an identical every day driver minus a 3:73 rear the 3:73 gets better economy because of running at lower rpm consistently
@tomm11092 жыл бұрын
Once again people completely miss the point of the 4 cyl. IT DOESN'T HELP WITH HIGHWAY DRIVING. Drive it in the city for a full tank and then tell me the difference. Every time you stop at a traffic light or stop sign the V8 is running on 8 cylinder. Every time you accelerate you are running on 8. The 4 will see a huge increase in mileage on city trip, and jobs with a fair amount of idling. I'm currently driving a Dodge Magnum RT. I can take it out on the freeway and get the reading to 26mpg! But that is not realistic. As soon as I get in the city, like 10% city driving and it will drop to 21mpg. Currently I am commuting 4 miles in the city. My current average is 12.6. That's a V8 for you.
@FiliSuperDuty Жыл бұрын
My wife drives a 2016 F150 with the 5.0, and I drive a 2022 F350 with the 7.3 gas. I have talked with tons of people that have the Eco Boost F150 and swear by it - those HP and torque numbers are impressive indeed. A lot of those Eco Boost folks that I know also are at around 20(ish) mpg when not towing, too. Not gonna lie, that sort of makes me jealous as my 7.3 isn't exactly great on gas (but that's not why I bought it, of course). I personally stand by the NA V8, though, regardless of size. Aside from the folks I know that have loved their Eco Boosts, I do know folks who have had turbo intercooler issues around that 100k mile mark (not a ton, but especially folks who frequently tow in hot climates). For longevity purposes, I just simply trust the NA engine over the Turbo. Also, my rationale would be that they (being Ford in this case) put the big 7.3 V in the Super Duty... not a smaller engine that has a turbo... GM and Dodge also put the 6+L V8s in their Heavy Duty lines vs. the smaller engine + turbo route. To each their own, of course, but I wouldn't touch the smaller engine + turbo for truck-stuff purposes. Maybe put something like that in a sports car, sure, but not a truck for me. Nice vid. Between you and Big Truck Big RV, I have learned a ton about this stuff since getting into Camper culture with my family. It isn't exactly the cheapest hobby in the world, but it's better than drugs, right? Take care.
@joshgessinger45092 жыл бұрын
This is video iv been waiting for but would like power comparison also. Awesome video keep up good work. Thanks Josh
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
I am trying to get the power side by side, can’t do a all out drag race but will compare acceleration 👍🏾
@whatsupwithsteve2 жыл бұрын
Good points! I love my single cab work truck with the 5.3l Plenty of power, sounds terrific (thanks Flowmaster) and should run forever.
@nastinati6472 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@rdpillsforall68844 ай бұрын
It won’t cause the dfm. I want Silverado but that’s the one thing holding me back.
@elcg1211 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had CC Silverados with the 5.3/8, 4.3/6, and now a 22 with the 2.7/4. Over 150k on the previous trucks I got 19 & 19.5 mpg of mixed driving. Through 16k on my 22 2.7 I’m getting 23.5 mpg of mixed driving. Drove my son to FSU recently and averaged 30.1mpg on the highway with cruise set at 72. My 22 does have an 8 speed trans over the 6 in previous trucks, but that’s all part of the package. The 2.7 moves the truck just as good as the 8, way better than the 6, and runs much smoother than both. I don’t pull or haul, and love Chevy Silverados…so this is the ideal truck/engine combination for me.
@jorviceclaunch35392 жыл бұрын
I have the 2.7 and I love it!
@jasonkrause6778 Жыл бұрын
I like your advise on quality of fuel Sir that plays a critical role in fuel mileage I am a believer in that .
@AlleyDoc Жыл бұрын
My '06 Silverado w/ 5.3L (no AFM/DFM) gets 16.9 mpg with mixed driving and 21 mpg on trips all day long. Not much has progressed in all these years since then. That little 4 banger will never last as long as my 5.3 in the long run.
@irishhandyman2009 Жыл бұрын
Have a 14 WT2 reg cab long bed 2WD with 149 000, 5.3. Started life as a tire service truck with Tommy lift. Bought it used 2 yrs ago. Put a Superchips tuner on it. Using econo tune. And turned off the AFM. In town I get maybe 11-12 mpg. On highway I get 18 consistently. I've seen 21 twice when conditions were perfect. Even in econo mode it still merges great onto interstate speeds.
@charlesbernius80652 жыл бұрын
Good video guy. I’m actually considering purchasing a 1500 with the 4cyl. 2 wheel drive Custom, double cab, Standard bed. My reasons are more cost related than fuel mileage. Besides I still can’t wrap my head around a 4cyl in a half ton truck. But I have driven one and it’s quite impressive. Just retired and not looking to have a huge note. But I enjoyed your video. Thanks.
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Charles and good luck with your purchase and congrats on retirement 👍🏾
@mrrod3004 Жыл бұрын
Eighteen wheelers are 6 cylinder and pull 100s of tons..a 4 cylinder 4bt can push 700hp with just a few adjustments...more cylinders does not equal more power.and the 4bt will get 45 to 50mpg in a jeep or car swap. simple delete on that 2.7 would be getting 30 35mpg.
@gabrielgalaxygh Жыл бұрын
@@mrrod3004 they're also diesels lol and have huge engine blocks and turbos. Not the same bud
@mrrod3004 Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielgalaxygh who are you even talkin to. there not huger some of those engine only make around 250 to 350hp in big truck some have the same exact engine as a 3500 i work on them for living dude. go try and be relevant somewhere else. the 1500 is a diesel version where talking about. some people are idiots. the 2.7 is a turbo diesel in this video...
@seanxphillips Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielgalaxygh exactly total difference versus gas
@Chato2252 жыл бұрын
I traded my 2019 Silverado LT for a Titan in March. I just traded that Titan for a new RST Silverado. I couldn’t be happier. I went to Boston from New Jersey and I got an average of 21.7 mpg. Titan gave me 12. So the 5.3 gives you power and good mpg. Haven’t tried that 4 cylinder and I refuse to do so
@alanj73062 жыл бұрын
Some vehicles are definitely more accurate with their mpg monitors than others. My MB ML350 was always spot on. After I compared it 3 times to what I calculated at the pump, I just didn’t bother anymore. It was always dead right. It’s usually towing (from what I’ve seen on channels) that messes it up. Surprisingly, I did a trip today with my new Silverado (Duramax) towing a little over 12K pounds and the gauge was really accurate. I didn’t keep the receipt or exact numbers, but want to say it was like 169.7 miles and It took 20.378 gallons, which is 8.33 mpg and the truck showed 8.4. That’s close enough for me and very accurate. But ya, I’ve seen them test vehicles on TFL and they’re 2 miles a gallon off, sometimes more. Some say 27 and they get 24. I guess Chevy got this right.
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
Yea I’ve noticed when you do a lot of stop/go and idling it can throw it off too. Back in the day, they were not as accurate but todays computers are a lot better 👍🏾
@nashdrift3324 Жыл бұрын
I can say that I own a 2020 Chevy 1500 Custom with the 2.7L Turbo and my fuel economy around town in my area right now with it cold and using remote start to warm up, I am getting 20 - 21 MPG. When it's warm out and I don't have to warm up the truck, it's 24 - 25 MPG and that is around town. You mentioned the auto stop feature not showing on the display and it won't. Once you stop at a light or intersection for a few seconds, it will automatically shut down as long as you have your foot on the brake. Now, if the vehicle is charging the battery or you let off the brake and put your foot back on the brake at a slow stop, then it will not auto stop the engine. Having the bed cover and the bars on the back actually hurt the fuel economy of that truck that was tested. It also looks like it may have a lift to it from looking at the profile, but could just be from the fender flares, but if it does, that will affect the fuel economy as well. In my opinion of owning this very truck, it's a great purchase. Now, if you are someone that tows heavy trailers for a living daily or weekly, the 5.3L may be the better option to look at then because you get that added torque with the lower gear rear end. If you don't tow everyday, but maybe every once in a while or need a truck for a truck with a bed, I say the 2.7L is a great option as you get great fuel economy at a fraction of the price. It really all boils down to the question, "What do you need this vehicle to do?" and then go from there as far as price point and options are concerned.
@jd51792 жыл бұрын
I kinda like that 4 banger , for fuel economy wise. However , i question the longevity and durability of this tiny engine . That 4 banger is always stressed due to turbos and heavy weight . I probably stay with v8 without cylinder deactivation.
@fullsendornosend99102 жыл бұрын
But the deterioration of the motor from weight would be bettered by the 8 speed?
@yolosolonorthwest62822 жыл бұрын
You gotta test out the new 2.7 4 banger... that thing pulls. I was so surprised by it I decided to go with it over the 5.3.
@darrin20532 жыл бұрын
Fords being doing it for over a decade already with some success. I think they’ll be ok
@777jones2 жыл бұрын
I think the technology is absolutely proven... turbos last the life of the truck. I have a GM 4 cyl turbo car from 2006, GM already perfected the technology back then... runs perfectly... remember the Syclone? It was 30 years ago man! I doubt the 2.7 has issues.
@SOHCGT962 жыл бұрын
@@fullsendornosend9910 gearing goes a long way to manage load. If you drive unloaded a lot, this engine will probably be hard to beat. If you tow heavy regularly, its probably not the best option. Just depends what you're doing with it. If all you pull is a open trailer with a couple lawn mowers or a small u-haul its probably fine.
@1829Lola Жыл бұрын
Turned in my Silverado with the 5.3 and got a new one with the 2.7. I tow a 19 foot bass boat around Michigan. I don't see any difference in performance with the 2.7. I get around 17 mpg towing the boat. We drove it to Florida last winter and got 21-23 mpg. I keep trying to get a buddy with a 5.3 to drag race me. Got a feeling the 2.7 would win. Keep the videos coming.
@phil-11152 жыл бұрын
Didn't they prove on Mythbuster's that the bed cover did not make a difference on fuel economy? That the tailgate helped create a pocket of air that the incoming air flow would flow right over the top of it. That is why you can have trash in the back of your truck at highway speeds and the trash blows right up next to the cab instead of blowing out.
@jameseroh65442 жыл бұрын
The fuel economy test at Altmont Speedway, was performed at 45mph. That is the critical speed for things like windows up or down, and bed covers, to make a difference. So the Mythbusters test was not necessarily how people drive. Too bad they didn't get track time at the test track for Honda or Hyndai. Which are located in the California City area. Those tracks allow full speed cruising.
@jeffalan6339 Жыл бұрын
I never dreamt a Silverado would become equipped with 4 clynder A truck is meant to haul not be an economical vehicle.. Mine has the 5.3. I get 51 city, 87 highway. Well, that's what the instant mpg states coasting down hill. Actual urban 18.3 City 12.4 with 3 42 axle. I just see it now a contractor arrives at the jobsite with 4cyl, pulling a trailer, the other installs dual exhaust to hear the 4cyl rumble.
@terryduncan312 жыл бұрын
My 2019 with the 6.2, 10 speed got 21.5 mpg's on a 250 mile trip running 70-75 mpg. It's all about that right foot.
@sokodad2 жыл бұрын
6.2 in my opinion is only way to go.
@alanj73062 жыл бұрын
That’s some great mileage there. It’s painful filling my truck up now, but sometimes I can go several weeks, if not a month, so it usually works out well. My Mercedes suv was 4-6 weeks since I wasn’t driving much and had a 24.5 gallon tank. Ya, it sucked putting in premium, but that tank sure would last me.
@Louthemailman2 жыл бұрын
@@sokodad 6.2 or 3.0 duramax
@ChrisDIYerOklahoma2 жыл бұрын
Yeh, agree. I have a 2021 GMC Sierra AT4 (6.2L). The 6.2L is the only way to go with these 1/2 ton pickup trucks. The bigger engine doesn't have to work as hard to "make it go". However, as soon as you fuel it with 93-octane and plant your right foot to the floor and hear the tires vaporize...fuel mileage be dammed! The giddy-up with the 6.2L is unmatchable. I did NOT buy a 1/2 ton truck for fuel mileage...but, it is nice to get some when I am not acting like Dale Earnhardt Jr or Bo Duke (which is most of the time). 😆
@roam2beborn3232 жыл бұрын
Good video dude too many people falling for the lie and the hype aren't they, I've got a 2018 GMC Savana 6.0 6-speed with 342 gears I made a camper out of it so there's a little bit of weight added to it highway speeds up to 80 mph getting 16.9 to 19.6 MPG have actually seen 21 one time through Texas and remember it's a van and it's a 3/4 ton
@cameroncassel994 Жыл бұрын
My dad has the 2020 trailboss 5.3 on the highway it gets around 22-24 mpg. He did add the k&n air filter it did with about 2 mpg extra. Reminder the trailboss has a 10 speed transmission and it's very smooth shifting. I really did enjoy the video and thank you.
@calebniederhofer6529 Жыл бұрын
You are not getting a 2mpg increase with a air filter lol. I know, I sold them, and installed them on diesels, performance motors. Intakes are minimal without tuning the ECU.
@cameroncassel994 Жыл бұрын
@Caleb Niederhofer sounds like your the mechanic that never made it far! I can honestly say results may vary. I noticed the biggest increase was with gas engines not freaking diesels, diesels like our 7.3 power stroke didn't like and neither did the duramax. Both very sensitive and picky. But you believe what you want and have a wonderful day filling people's heads with bs.
@calebniederhofer6529 Жыл бұрын
@@cameroncassel994 Instead of being educated, you are going to write a ignorant response. This is undoubtably the way social media is typically. You have no idea what I know, or don’t know lol. I said diesel, performance motors. You will typically see better results out of diesel motors actually, do to most of them being turbo charged, and the larger motors having bigger intakes.
@calebniederhofer6529 Жыл бұрын
@@cameroncassel994 It is not about believing what I want. I am correct. I have seen the Dyno numbers to back it up. You hardly get any kind of performance, or economy increase out of just a filter by itself.
@somerandom7398 Жыл бұрын
You get practically the same gas mileage and depending on the options you get, You can either get the 4 cylinder or 8 cylinder for the same price. Not to mention the v8 will tow more than a 4 cyl turbo. The answer is pretty clear on what people should pick. It’s not even a debate. Why add so much strain on a small engine if you get nearly the same performance of a v8 for the same price? It would atleast make sense if the 4 cylinder mpg was significantly better
@neiljuedes1661 Жыл бұрын
You need the lower gear ratio in order to have the low end power without kicking the turbo in every time you take off. As for the issues with things not working electronically that is a normal thing for so many of these new vehicles. Plus that 5.3 will still be running when the 2.7 is on the scrap heap.
@honda116969 Жыл бұрын
I agree that 2.7 has nice to work and would be okay if you're just using it for a couple years and trading it off but if you plan on keeping it I'm definitely buying the V8 5.3 or 6.2 both are super reliable and about 2-3 MPG different
@revest1002 жыл бұрын
My buddy and I both had 2000 Pontiac Grand Am's. His was a 2.4 4 cyl and mine was a 3.4 V6. I always got better mileage than did he. I had a 30 mile one-way trip to work and he had a 20 mile trip. Now I'm not an engineer, but sometimes I play one on Facebook, haha, anyway I think that there comes a point that displacement matters to mileage and that a larger displacement for a X size/weight vehicle is the better option. I would go with the 5.3 anyway. It is a strong engine and the mileage difference is insignificant in my opinion. Great review JB!
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I play engineer too 🤣🤣🤣! It’s interesting how it works but I think if you stay out of the turbo, you could get closer to the MPG on the sticker. Thanks Randy 👍🏾
@kellsarah2 жыл бұрын
Best option for fuel economy and towing in the 1500 would be the 3.0 Duramax. That 4 cylinder noise is the biggest turn off for me on this one.
@valeriafitzgibbon38792 жыл бұрын
I would tend to agree… In my case I have an LS swapped squarebody for when I want to haul ass and have that V8 sound . The 2.7t is perfect for all other situations. The 4 cylinder sound isn’t sexy but the turbo whistles are pretty cool
@mowcowbell2 жыл бұрын
But diesel costs over $1 more per gallon than 87 octane. Kinda offsets the better fuel economy.
@valeriafitzgibbon38792 жыл бұрын
@@mowcowbell in most states, yeah. If I was in Cali I’d get the diesel
@andrewgorges7422 жыл бұрын
@@mowcowbell gas is $3.49 here where I live in NY diesel is $5.89
@jeffwessel496Ай бұрын
I've had my 2024 with the 2.7L turbo for a month now. I drove it on a 1500 round trip, all highway. It got 25 mpg! The motor was not fully worn in when I started but it sure was when I finished.
@patelyasir2 жыл бұрын
The bigger vehicle with a 4 cylinder just means you put more stress on the engine but when you have the v8 it powers the truck properly
@michelleseagle7411 ай бұрын
I own a 2020 4cyl turbo...I get 22 mpg and 28 mpg...I have 206,000 miles on it....tow trailer with Harley and 4 wheeler with no issues...love my truck ❤
@9663mu2 жыл бұрын
5.3 V8 makes the least HP and TQ of any V8 offered in trucks. Solid engine but needing power bump after almost 10 years of same output.
@jonscott76862 жыл бұрын
They do it because it’s bulletproof it will run forever it’s decent mileage they don’t want to mess something up if it works
@buzztrucker2 жыл бұрын
@@jonscott7686 Exactly.
@therickyp19172 жыл бұрын
The lifters aren’t bulletproof.
@jonscott76862 жыл бұрын
@@therickyp1917 To a point yes, but that’s because of the display on demand cylinder deactivation.
@buzztrucker2 жыл бұрын
@@therickyp1917 My 5.3 LM7 has over 225k miles. GM f'd it up when they started doing cylinder deactivation.
@slscamg2 жыл бұрын
The auto stop start and DFM might not be on these 2022 trucks due to the chip shortage.
@vhateverlie2 жыл бұрын
No loss there with the engine issues if the AFM experiences low oil and damages itself, burning oil from there on out.
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
Good point Matthew 👍🏾
@slscamg2 жыл бұрын
@@vhateverlie agree 100% on the active fuel management. The dynamic fuel management seems to be less problematic? Either way, long term just let all 8 cylinders fire.
@flipmarc692 жыл бұрын
Tonneau covers don't really help with fuel economy. If it does, it's very negligible. Now since this vid showed that both engines are about the same fuel economy, I personally would take a naturally aspirated engine over a turbo engine any day.
@kirstencole364 Жыл бұрын
yo bro thx for this side by side comparison it was much needed
@mcleanvuilleumier6102 жыл бұрын
I have the 2.7 turbo and I regularly get 23 - 24 mpg on the high way and my best was actually up to 26.9 mpg at one point so this video didn't give the turbo enough distance to get its best milage
@Robertp212 жыл бұрын
What fuel do you use ??
@thebookofrevelationreveale47222 жыл бұрын
We purchased the 2022 Chevy Custom Trail Boss 4 cyl twin turbo two months ago. Had 16 miles on it when we purchased. The mpg has been increasing from day one. We started at 16 mpg and are now getting a constant 19.1 mpg! The automatic mileage tracker is wonderful for keeping track. You’ll see a lesser mpg while Highway driving, passing and using the turbo, that will definitely decrease your mpg. We do very little fast speed highway driving , mostly long stretches on two way roads going 60-65mph. Very little city driving also. We’re very happy with our purchase as the truck we replaced was a gas guzzler 8 cyl! I could tell with the first tank of gas what a difference this new truck was having at the pump! Love our new Chevy.
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
@jasona89642 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of a small displacement boosted engine, but it sounds a little rough at 6:30
@phil24705 ай бұрын
They are both nice trucks. I have a 5.3 from 2016 to pull a bass boat. I wouldn't want a 4 cylinder that has to be working harder than the 8 cylinder. I believe the 8 cylinder would hold up better over time due to less stress on the motor. My mileage averages are .7 mpg under what the truck estimates. I fill the tank, reset the trip miles, drive it, go back to the gas station and check the miles before I fill it again. I then divide the miles by the amount of gas I put back into the tank. I do this very often and the truck computer mpg estimates are pretty consistently .7 mpg over what I actually get. My truck does have 4 cylinder mode for when it doesn't need all 8 but it does change over to 8 cylinder mode very quickly when I need power. I would say it maybe uses 8 cylinders more than it really needs to but I bought it to pull a boat and for the 8 cylinders so I am not unhappy at all. It has been a great truck.
@tturner71752 жыл бұрын
I have had the 5.3L engine in 4 different GM trucks since 2000, and I agree with your take on the overall fuel economy and and resale value vs. the 2.7 turbo engine. I’m not saying the 2.7 Turbo is inferior. Just a different engine that will fit someone else’s need/use of a light pick-up truck, I expect it would be a great daily driver, with a slightly better fuel mileage. Still, I love my 5.3L V8. Thanks for your review.
@steelthreefifty2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the 2.7 makes considerable more torque at lower rpm. 5.3 is 385. 2.7 is 430. And comes on much sooner
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
This is the standard output engine
@mhyatt822622 жыл бұрын
Get the 5.3 litre! Six years ago I purchased a new 2014 Yukon XL with the 5.3 L It’s got around 80,000 miles now and still gets 18 MPG driving in country and city. Last time I took it down to Florida, it was getting 20.5 on I-75. By the way, I just subscribed after watching your no nonsense, highly recommended video.
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Sub!
@ktpinnacle2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have a 5.3 (with cylinder deactivation off) lopping along that the 4 banger spinning up. But give me the Duramax over both.
@fjoco12 жыл бұрын
The lifters can still fail even with cylinder deactivation off.
@ktpinnacle2 жыл бұрын
@@fjoco1 I've heard that. But I also heard that there were specific manufacturing dates that were experiencing lifter problems. Too bad. I have a 2001 Yukon with 345K miles on the same 5.3. Never had the covers off.
@slscamg2 жыл бұрын
You’d be surprised how low the RPMs stay in the turbo 4. All the low end torque drives a light duty diesel. In fact the V8 has to ref higher for the same toque. I have the 2.7 V6 ecoboost and that thing rarely needs over 3000rpm to keep up with traffic.
@rdaugherty522 жыл бұрын
I've got the 2.7 turbo a 2022 model and I don't regret it at all I love it when I stomp down on it the truck squats down and takes off it will turn the tires over also not use to that in a full size truck I also towe a 21ft trailer with farm implements on it no problem yes love it.
@gagt5spd2 жыл бұрын
the new 4cyl turbo makes a lot more tq than the one you tested. apparently makes a huge improvement and is faster than the 5.3
@70DMac2 жыл бұрын
Until you melt those turbos. After three or four years it will cost you a fortune in repairs. Small turbo displacement engines in a big heavy truck equals long term disaster.
@aaronhumphrey20092 жыл бұрын
@@70DMac true. Especially with the direct injection engines- too much soot builds up around the intake valves and in the oil itself. Pre- oiling and cool- down oil pumps really would help the longevity of turbo bearings . Using low viscosity( 5-10 ) engine oils and 7-10 K oil change intervals doesn't help , either. The turbo is better at high altitude, but when you use the power, you loose the MPGs.. The 5.3 is great if you get one without bad lifters..simpler usually beats complex in the long run..
@Connor4x42 жыл бұрын
Real world power number on the 4cyl turbo turd engine are actually less than the 5.3. Turbos don't belong on a gas engine
@jimk8927 Жыл бұрын
My best fuel economy has been 25.4 mpg in the 2.7L. This was around town in a suburb, with traffic being at minimum. But both vehicles I can make the fuel economy to be poor. The turbo 4 as I like the noise it makes when you get on the gas pedal when the turbo spools up. As for the 8 cylinder, I like the growl it does when you accelerate. Accelerating aggressively on either will destroy fuel economy, but which is worse if you put the pedal to the floor
@JG2HTT2 жыл бұрын
I bought the first sport side 5.3 in 1999. Kept it until 2021. Never did a tune up until I was selling it last year and when I took the spark plugs out they looked like they had no ware on them. No oil deposits. Really hated to let to that body style go. Bought a 2013 LTZ crew cab 5.3 and loving it.
@the_truck_farmer2 жыл бұрын
Yeah those early 5.3s were nearly indestructible. The cylinder deactivation/lifter failures on newer ones are a major bummer though.
@1964summit2 жыл бұрын
sportside reg cabs were very cool
@fastbysal8797 Жыл бұрын
I traded in my 5.0 f 150 for the 2.7 turbo GMC. Im getting 20 mpg average. And 25 mpg on highway. You are correct in saying theres a learning curve to optimize the fuel economy on the smaller turbo engine.
@javeman12 жыл бұрын
I love my 21 3.0L Turbo, best I have had is 34.4MPG, I was really feathering it. For average drives I never get less than 28/29MPG, and in town never less than 21/22. I have had either the 5.3 or 6.2 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab starting back in 2016 , and I will never go back to a gasser again.
@redhulk1112 жыл бұрын
That's cause you a bitch. These 4 bangers run good now cause they're new engines fresh out the lot. Give a while and see what those engines can do. My 01 Silverado 5.3 would tear these 4 bangers in durability, reliability and longevity. Fact! These new trucks are shit.
@jshoota19ify2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I assume you're talking about the in-line 6 Duramax. I have the 2020. Can't believe it blows the 4 cylinder, in MPG's, out of the water. Even though diesel is weirdly costing more, 30mpg on highway is beautiful. I wouldn't try towing anything over 4000lbs, up to the mountains, in that 4 cylinder or any gasser. That engine probably would run 6000RPM's towing up steeper grades.
@terryhuskey6760 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 Silverado 2.7. Fan belt broke at 40k. Transmission started slipping at 60K. The transmission finally gave up at 100k. Tranny was $4500 and the catalytic converter was plugged. $2000. I did do 100k in 16 months.
@averycardosia24862 жыл бұрын
How many miles do you think the four-cylinder will last before you need any major repairs? I’m thinking about buying one but I don’t know about longevity. I’ve never owned a Chevy or a truck
@respext.44532 жыл бұрын
I drove a 2009 Silverado 1500 5.3L V8 and it lasted me 270k miles.
@donaldlaratta9925 Жыл бұрын
I hope we can get to 150k to 200k with the 2.7L H/O
@samhaines829 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2017 4x4 Silverado and for the most part I loved it. It had a 4.3 V6 and for a general non pulling vehicle it was fantastic. I could average 22-25 MPG going down the highway at 70-75 MPH, 18 around the city. It was a dream to drive compared to my F150, but everyone I knew had lost at least one transmission in their Silverado. I think the 4.3 may not have had enough power to take the tranny out. I sold it at 171,000 miles and immediately missed it. Beyond the transmission failures on a majority of these trucks, one might not want to turn the ignition off while it's in 4WD. I did after pulling it up on the ramps to change the oil and $125 later the dealer said thank you after unlocking it from the permanent 4WD it was now in. If Chevy still sold these with the extended cab and a 4.3V6 I'd buy one over an F150 any day, but I'm not a fan of turbos and a 2.7 is pretty small. As long as the 5.3 doesn't have the cylinder management I think it's a good engine, otherwise it'll be more of a nightmare than owning the 2.7 turbo. Just my thoughts.
@joeskeptical4762 Жыл бұрын
*The cold tire pressure wasn’t mentioned. Both vehicles should be checked for manufacturer recommendations before testing. This can make a BIG difference.*
@ronpage101 Жыл бұрын
My company truck is a GMC '22 crew cab 1500 4x4. 5.3. All around about 18mpg. Can get 20 when baby ed. Loves running around 75mph, 1700rpm and quiet as can be. I'm a Ram guy, but would not hesitate buying one of these.
@mbukukanyau2 жыл бұрын
No Brainer bro, get the V8, vote out the democrats and build the pipelines and refineries.. Jobs...
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
💯
@marcelopunches62492 жыл бұрын
Let’s go Brandon !
@Gregoman89 Жыл бұрын
Truth
@haljackson4064 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2014 High Country 4X4 that I paid just under $50,000 for now same truck is just under $70,000 mine is getting ready to turn 77,000 miles love to have a new truck but mine still drives and runs like a new one. I have the 5.3 engine and I can drive it 85 to 90 mph and it will get 19.2 mpg I can drive it 55 and use the cruise and get just under 22 mpg. I check my milage by miles driver by how many gallons of gas not by the truck computer. So far AC condensor is the only thing that has gone out and still have the original brakes.
@matthewanderson99122 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I said in your post they would be the same and they basically were. You could even argue with the more stops you had with the 5.3 it would have been better. A few observations about the two trucks. The Custom has the GM accessories 2” “Trail Boss” lift installed from that dealer. In factory Trail Boss trim trucks they get a slightly worse EPA fuel rating as compared to the non Trail Boss trucks. I’m not sure that it would truly matter much in the real world though. Also that RST 5.3 was a non Z71 truck so that means it had a single speed transfer case. It also explains the more highway oriented tires. However the Custom truck would also just have a single speed transfer case so that’s kind of apples to apples. My opinion as a Chevy guy is I wouldn’t buy either of those two trucks. I’m not interested in any small displacement turbo engine and after my experience with the DFM (dynamic fuel management) 5.3 in my 2021 1500 I’m done with those engines. Hopefully GM fixes the lifter issues they had that was pretty widespread for 2021 model trucks (three trucks were at my local dealer at the same time when mine had a lifter failure last September). If not for that issue though I’d take the 5.3 all day or really spend the extra $2000ish for a 6.2. But again I’m not touching one until I stop reading about lifter failures on Facebook specific groups for these trucks and also quit hearing my salesman tell me about another 5.3 coming back with failed lifters that he sold.
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
Great post, I never thought about the transfer case example. The 2.7L probably would have done better in stock form but my guess is it still would have been within .5 MPG and although I didn’t say it, I hyper miles the 4CYL just to prevent bias lol. The trucks DFM did feel like it came on at some point in the video but I could be mistaken. Thanks for sharing this 👍🏾
@matthewanderson99122 жыл бұрын
@@JB_WhoWork yeah I think it’s basically a wash. The 3.0 Duramax is the mileage king for sure. I forgot to mention to that the DFM engines don’t tell you when the cylinder deactivations are happening. So there’s noway to know how many cylinders it’s running on. I reckon it can vary from 2-8. Now the older AFM (active fuel management) 5.3 and 6.2 tells you when it’s in V4 or V8. They are much more reliable than the DFM in my opinion although the potential is still there. Starting with the 2022 refresh though the AFM 5.3 is discontinued. However for the 2022 LTD it’s still available in the WT, Custom and Custom Trail Boss trucks. It’s also paired with a 6 speed auto. It would be the 1500 Silverado I’d buy if I had to buy one today (probably a Trail Boss although I do like the Custom look).
@itisfinished4U2 жыл бұрын
GM prolly has the worst gas engines on the market right now with a couple exceptions, the 5.3 engine and transmission are always losing lifters or breaking completely with 15k miles or less in my observation in a gm service department. I figure if all manufacturers gas trucks are junk you might as well buy a ram since it's the least expensive in my area by a good margin and tend to be more reliable, which I know it sounds crazy to say ram is more reliable on these newer year model trucks than gm but it is what it is now a days.
@matthewanderson99122 жыл бұрын
@@itisfinished4U the DFM 5.3 and 6.2 are terrible. Especially the 2021 model years. They claim they had a bad run of lifters that affected trucks built from 09/20-03/21 which was one month worth of 2020s and then 5 months worth of 2021s. But from what I’ve seen the 2019s have failures too but it doesn’t seem all that common with them. Can’t say that about the 2021s though. Like I said when mine went down on September 25, 2021 with 9400 miles my very small dealership in southwest Virginia had two other 2021 trucks with a lifter failure. Mine made three and they were all there at the dealer at the same time. I got a 6.6 gas 2500 now. Based off its build specs it should be reliable. It’s built strong (forged crank, cast block, 6 bolt mains) and no cylinder deactivation of any kind. I guess we will see but so far I’ve not heard of any kind of widespread problems with them. There’s some that say they have an oil consumption problem but I think GMs TSB on it basically said it was normal. Not sure I’d agree with that statement but aside from that no major failures that’s been widespread.
@itisfinished4U2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewanderson9912 they are definitely horrible, the 6.6 gas seems to be pretty decent so far with the exception of plugs fouling for some reason that no one seems to know exactly why because there just aren't a lot of them out there
@Den-nu6pv Жыл бұрын
My 2022 1500 Silverado custom 2.7 gets and average of 18.5 it did better when brand new but still I’m happy with it 13 k miles running great.
@randy35772 жыл бұрын
The 4 cyl turbo has plenty of power. I can't tell any difference from mine towing heavy to my v8. I actually think the 2.7 turbo pulls as good.
@toddfrost3019 Жыл бұрын
I test drove one and hooked it to my enclosed that's 24 foot and was a dog. My 2017 5.3 was a lot better, but I still didn't like the way it pulled, honestly traded my chevy in on a ram 3500!!
@s8south9 ай бұрын
I get around 23-26mpg on my 2024 2.7L Turbo. Very happy with the performance and driving it is also very comfortable
@dankruger28909 ай бұрын
add 10 ply tires and you will see 20mpg
@jmackani2 жыл бұрын
AFM active fuel management can usually be shown using the menu options that change the display in the center console. They are usually controlled with a button on the turn signal lever. Where yours shows trip 1 can be changed to show if the vehicle is running in 4 or 8 cylinder mode. You can feel the engine normally when it drops to 4 cylinder mode kind of like a Jake brake on a diesel.
@chandlerf86292 жыл бұрын
Important to note that it depends on the type of transmission you have. The 5.3 6 speeds do not have this option.
@jimmace6148 Жыл бұрын
Didnt GM get rid of AFM for 2023?
@CS-qc7np Жыл бұрын
@@jimmace6148 I heard that too.
@AStanton1966 Жыл бұрын
I think GM took that option of showing the number of cylinders firing away.
@andrewhunz9960 Жыл бұрын
GM doesn't use AFM anymore, they use DFM. Look it up, it dynamically controls which cylinders fire, not just switching between 4 and 8.
@jorgehidalgo6766 ай бұрын
Nice review! Thanks, wish you would’ve taken the 4 cyl up a few hills and down. I got a 4 banger Colorado and after buying it realized my transmission will fail at some point if I’m on hills too much. Money saved will go to repairs. Anyhow I should’ve gotten a stinger engine and transmission. Regretting it now. That’s why I’m looking at something stronger and figure what I spend in fuel I’ll save on repairs
@cubiculez2 жыл бұрын
3.42 and 3.23 Gears? 4x4? I hope the Transmission and Transfer Case have some decent gearing otherwise off road these trucks won't do real well in any sort of moderate off road conditions. I'm also concerned about the 2.7 with the Turbo. Turbos have a tendency to be REALLY HARD on small motors and you start towing with that motor, your foot is going to be into the Turbo A LOT. It wouldn't surprise me if you were looking at Head Gaskets early on with the Turbo. I'd also suggest trying to sandwich the largest Transmission and Engine Oil Coolers into these things as space will allow. Turbos run HOT and the 8 speed Trans if it grenades is major money to replace. A suggestion would be to buy the LONGEST EXTENDED WARRANTY you can due anything that goes wrong with these vehicles is going to cost an arm and a leg to fix.
@nashdrift3324 Жыл бұрын
The chevy's come with a lifetime unlimited mileage powertrain warranty. So, as long as you do your services as recommended by chevy, it will be covered under that warranty.
@henrymezinis71512 жыл бұрын
The best motor the ever made was the 4.3l V6 great mileage and power
@keithrankin61132 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned both I can tell you that the 5.3 will get slightly better mpg highway than the 2.7 with 4 wheel drive. That being said I average 23 city with the 2.7. The 2wd 5.3 I get 16 mpg. So to me the 2.7 definitely gets better fuel economy. Also the 2.7 gets a lot better fuel economy after the engine has broke in around the 20 thousand mile mark.
@frankferret1038 Жыл бұрын
I had a 5.3 Silverado for 8 years no problems ran smooth as glass .Great on the highways.Would buy the newer one as well not a 4 cylinder turbo.
@andrewrenner58092 жыл бұрын
5.3 all day. Years and years of proven reliability!!!
@fjoco12 жыл бұрын
Hahaha what. That is one of the biggest pieces of junk they have ever created. The 5.3 ecotec that is. Pretty much anything with cylinder deactivation.
@alanj73062 жыл бұрын
It’s an awesome engine, but I agree with the cylinder deactivation. That’s the dumbest design ever. I would never buy one. Only thing worse are vehicles that automatically turn off when you stop at a light. Ya, cause that’s not gonna wear your starter out haha 🤣
@voided32 жыл бұрын
@@fjoco1 Correct, the current 5.3 L84 has nothing in common with the older, more reliable LS engines. AFM/DFM combined with GDI and thin piston rings turned a 250,000+ mile engine into a 100,000 mile engine under ideal conditions. Someone with a 2019 T1 Silverado with the 5.3 had a lifter go at 78,000 miles of highway driving and it took out the whole engine. $12,000 repair bill at the dealer.
@fjoco12 жыл бұрын
@@voided3 Yep my 2014 GMC Sierra had 75k miles when the drives side lifters decided to take a vacation. The good news is that I was 10 hours away on a hunting trip when it happened three days before New Years. So I replaced it with a 2019 ram 1500 because that’s all they had on the lot at the time and I had no other way of getting home. Well 20k mikes later I had to get all of the lifters and cam shafts replaced. Man V8s are so darn reliable.
@andrewrenner58092 жыл бұрын
I mean……my 03 Silverado was way more reliable than my 08, or 14. But I’d still trust any of those 5.3’s over a 2.7 turbo 🤷🏻♂️
@Patrick_Gray Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I am in the market for a new truck. My current truck is a 2000 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 4WD with a 5.3L V8. I test drove a 2.7L 4 clinder truck and it had good power, maybe more than my truck but I was concerned about longevity. My truck only has 106,000 miles on it and runs good, I just put all new brakes on it. I use it to tow our camper and we go camping a few days , of 7 or 8 months of the year. We are going to be out of state driving servral times this next year. So, thinking about a new truck. Thanks again! ------------------------------- GM Slverado 1500 Truck Engines 2023: ------------------------------- STANDARD GAS ENGINE: 2.7L 4cly Turbo Gas Engine T CD SS - 310 hp @ 5600 rpm - 430 ft-lb torque @ 3000 rpm - Paired with 8-speed AT - MPG 4WD => 19avg 18/21 - MPG 2WD => 20avg 19/22 5.3L ECOTEC3 V8 Gas Engine CD SS - 355 hp @ 5600 rpm - 383 lb-ft torque @ 4100 rpm - Paired with 10-speed AT - MPG 4WD => 17 16/20 - MPG 2WD => 19 17/21 - Towing: 9500 6.2L ECOTEC# V8 Gas Engine P CD SS - 420 hp @ 5600 rpm - 460 lb-ft torque @ 4100 rpm - Paired with 10-speed AT - Dynamic Fuel Management - MPG 4WD => 17 16/20 - Towing: 9300 - Big Mirrors that extend, 2spd 4WD 3.0L Duramax Turbo Diesel 4WD Engine TD SS - For half ton trucks - 277 hp @ - 460 ft-lbs Torque @ - Paired with 10-speed AT - MPG 4WD => 24avg 22/27 - MPG 2WD => 26 24/29 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Your driving test of the 2.7L & the 5.3L engines for fuel economy in a loop: -->kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ61nKqXbteBmpI - The 2.7 L got 19.6 mpg. - The 5.3 L got 19.5 mpg. -->In another video I think it was you that tested the 5.3L & 6.2L for fuel economy in a loop. - The 5.3 L got 18.4 mpg. - The 6.2 L got 16.9 mpg. =====================================================================
@dantimber2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting. Do you notice GM transmissions holding revs for a second or so before upshifting in normal driving? If it wasn't my imagination I noticed it during a recent test drive of a Silverado HD 6.6 gas 6-speed.
@JB_WhoWork2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it was in tow/haul mode when it did that?
@dantimber2 жыл бұрын
@@JB_WhoWork Hmm. Great point. I was focused on my overall impression and didn’t think about it during the test drive. It sold but I’ll definitely check tow/haul mode the next time I get the opportunity. Thanks
@haroldbeauchamp37702 жыл бұрын
I had a 2014 Silverado with the 6 speed. It had a slipping between 2-3 gear that drove me crazy. GM’s fix was to update the TCM to hold each gear longer. Roughly about 200 rpm’s higher for each gear before upshifting. Drove me crazy. Before, it didn’t do that. Just that slipping feel between 2-3 that I’d have taken instead of the annoying gear holding.
@dantimber2 жыл бұрын
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Actually I think it was the 2 to 3 shift. That’s really interesting. You would think that with an older tried transmission the bugs would have been worked out of it. Maybe it was changed some to handle the larger more powerful 6.6?
@matthewcoulter87622 жыл бұрын
You’re not crazy. It does have much more lag in normal mode and a higher lag time between response. If you switch to sport mode, it changes the throttle response significantly. You’ll get far less lag on the throttle in sport mode than in standard. I’ve driven a 2022 Sierra 1500 2.7L turbo across the country twice and vertically three times now. The whole responsiveness and shift band ranges change when in sport mode versus normal.
@kingdomcalled1403 Жыл бұрын
Jim from Ohio My friend has both and… he isn’t all that impressed with the 4 banger… it’s ok but, he’s sticking with the 5.3 as his better choice, overall…