Treyarch Just Seriously F*cked Sledgehammer Games…

Treyarch Just Seriously F*cked Sledgehammer Games…
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[@GullyFootTony]

SHG should be given a decent amount of time to make a title… and not another WW2 game again. The time frames they were given to make the their last 2 titles is quite frankly diabolical. Imagine what they could create if they had a 3 year cycle. Activision always give them the short straw & at the moment they’re the most competent dev group. Treyarch & Infinity Ward aren’t the same powerhouses that we’re used too. All those guys who made the legendary titles are gone

[@zypesiii7229]

Been saying SHG been carrying even with vanguard.

[@GullyFootTony]

@@zypesiii7229 absolutely, and they’re the dev group that gets the most stick

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@GullyFootTony completely agree. Sledgehammer is definitely my favorite team now, I really hope they can get a full development cycle.

[@SmoovyNovaFan]

facts, fk Treyfart

[@mauriziochirca8939]

WW2 was three years. After aw all cods started to have 3 years of development. Bo3 was the first to do that.

[@weirdeurasianboy8091]

Look dude, I like Sledgehammer. I really do. But Trey stealing a few maps from Sledge is nothing compared to Acti forcing Trey to take over the 2020 CoD since Sledge and Raven couldn't get it together

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@weirdeurasianboy8091 that definitely sucks, but man it must be tiring after awhile being used as the test dummy team. I’m hoping they can get the deserved time for their next COD game

[@weirdeurasianboy8091]

​@@JbowenDaMan Agreed

[@robertmayberry3598]

I just can’t even…

[@zypesiii7229]

@@weirdeurasianboy8091 that’s nothing compared the them being fucked into mw3. SHG is carrying cod rn. Plus we were in an actual pandemic no wonder they couldn’t 🤷🤣

[@emilianoms2055]

Is what i'm saying, they been forcing treyarch to help sledgehammer Since BLACK OPS 4,Even in cold war they forced them to move to vanguard, and now with the competitive gamemode of mw2022 and mw2023 because shmg they cant balance theyr own Game, and also mw3 needed zombies this year black ops 6 is the first Game that treyarch makes from the start 4YEARS IN DEVELOPMENT however doesnt look like it 😢 and it coming from a treyarch lover

[@GullyFootTony]

Activision scared of HS2 affecting BO6: Red Flag 🚩 Stripping SHG maps for BO6: Red Flag 🚩 “It’s not looking good bruv”

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@GullyFootTony they’ve been making some extremely strange decisions lately

[@GullyFootTony]

@@JbowenDaMan it’s not exactly filling me with confidence at the moment. I remember when you done a video ages ago about how when SHG have these stop gap games they pack it with content but the games that have full cycles have bare bones content. I think it’s gonna happen again

[@Minecraftassassin-re6og]

I wonder if sledgehammer games gets to the point of them saying "enough is enough either you give us a full deployment cycle or we're gone" If the rumours of sledgehammer games standing up to activition are true then that proves how much passion they've for the community and the bravery as well to stand up to your boss and say that's enough takes a lot of guts not many employees would ever try doing that

[@thewingedserpent5823]

they all work for the same company on the same franchise. they are essentially working together. This isn't really stealing. They aren't competing.

[@h3ks550]

If I was a SHG dev I would spit on Activision HQ's entrance every time I go to work, just showing them the same respect they show me.

[@FadeRunnerOG]

like they care lmao they get paid for less work i bet theyre happy

[@TheZenFlo]

Sledge Hammer Games always get the short end of the stick. They either get skipped, or are told to make a WWII game. They made advanced warfare and completely changed call of duty forever, and now they just get fucked every time.

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@TheZenFlo I heard behind the scenes they demanded more development time for their next project, let’s just hope that’s true and they get that time.

[@TheZenFlo]

@@JbowenDaManhopefully. They have always been screwed over.

[@Liloutcast666]

Just putting it out there but SHG and Raven are both literally support teams that got put on mostly full projects, SHG is a cinematic company (they'd probably be the one to make movies if ever needed) and Ravens a software

[@zxsnugglyjeffxz8244]

this right here

[@tylerallen497]

I have a feeling they had to give Treyarch some maps even tho they apparently had “4 years” because Activision made Treyarch focus on a unnecessary mode(warzone) which made Treyarch lose a lot of valuable time creating MP maps, then campaign, MP and zombies.

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@tylerallen497 that could definitely be a possibility, you’ve got me curious thinking about this!

[@NostalgiaNet8]

I'm convinced the Treyarch we knew is gone, now. They were my favorite, too. But, Sledgehammer has gained my full respect.

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@NostalgiaNet8 yep, I think all the development teams are packed with new people now. All the OGs are practically gone working on other projects

[@renatohnq]

Vonderhaar and Jason Blundell are gone, treyarch will never be the same

[@davidcarely5508]

​@@renatohnq vondy hadn't been really involved in a treyarch game since bo4. This new treyarch team is the same cold war team I guess mindsets just shifted sadly

[@seancorrigan_]

you sound like a hybrid of nerocinemas and blame truth 😂

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@seancorrigan_ 😂😂

[@Criticmasterz]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@WTFidontknow1]

They really added Crown Raceway to the map roster as if they didn’t know that’s one of their most hated maps next to Piccadilly.

[@ShazzledWolf32]

Hot take map is better than picidilly I once went 15-2 in search on that map

[@perocigla4425]

You all are really annoying with hating on WW2 games. It's way more fun to play with MP40, Thompson, PPSh than some random modern warfare weapon I've never heard of.

[@mrbungle589]

The Sten 💪

[@perocigla4425]

@@mrbungle589 Honestly I've never liked that one too much, lol.

[@itment5930]

You dont get tired of the same guns ? Jst askin really

[@perocigla4425]

@@itment5930 Dude, since I play Cod, I played 4 times with those guns. While I played countless times with AK47, Uzi, MP5 etc.

[@itment5930]

@@perocigla4425 i see your point ,im more on the side of makin bew guns completely,ik thats probably hard but cod has made their own guns before ,i jst want a new game completely ig

[@Amarok-7]

it's not 4 years. It's 6 months. When they tell us "4 years" ? It's just deceptive marketting.

[@pastorsleep]

sledgehammer is the best dev team by far they are the only team that stands up for itself to a degree against activision and actually wants to do something different like advanced warfare 2 meanwhile treyarch is a sellout and iw been making terrible games since 2013😂😂

[@ChineseQueen]

I don't really care how much content we get, why? it's the last season of mw3 anyways.

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@ChineseQueen yeah I feel if, the end of the games lifecycle. That’s where the annoying yearly releases kick in sadly

[@DevlVergil]

Because there's people who won't be buying BO6 and will continues playing MWIII.

[@RatKingTerry]

@@DevlVergil enjoy your one map then lmao

[@everyone1liesd459]

Until they do the same thing for BO6 with the next game You won't care now until they keep on doing it

[@ItsAero687]

I’m excited for the haunting

[@EverythingHenry]

Blaming treyarch and not the root cause Activision is a problem

[@obiwanshinobi2_1647]

I am shocked on how bad Activision is becoming, SHG deserves to have a full development cycle.

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@obiwanshinobi2_1647 they do, I really hope their next game gives them that exact freedom.

[@obiwanshinobi2_1647]

@@JbowenDaMan i think that even though all this happened SHG made one of if not the best modern gen cod games even with all these setbacks

[@Malignant_59]

I can't wait for SHG to cook on a futuristic COD, they have wonderful ideas, and with the weird names they are giving guns now, I'm sure they'd be able to make original concepts or at least inspired weapons of their own, allowing for something entirely new for the community, same goes for maps, and hell I'm sure they could go crazy on some new modes.

[@NostalgiaNet8]

I loved Advanced Warfare, even back then.

[@weirdeurasianboy8091]

@@Malignant_59 It's been 8 years since the last advanced movement CoD. Time to return, no?

[@Malignant_59]

@@weirdeurasianboy8091 Even if they don’t wanna do advanced movement, just the pure freedom you can get from going into the future, we aren’t there yet so they have infinite possibilities with maps, weapons, characters, and story, and everything in between. And also, Advanced Warfare 2 is definitely on my wishlist far, i would love an advanced movement game again.

[@luhbae]

i’m hoping they make AW2, AW was more original then any of the latest cods idc what sum people say, they really deserve they flowers 💐

[@unfixedfever7578]

Hey look 6 new map variants "SHH" 5 of them are Shipment but don't tell the players. - Activision This is just getting absolutely pathetic

[@danielblassi1029]

I disagree with your point that, “the reason we have so many maps in MW3 is because Sledgehammer cares more” I feel lit is because Activision literally told them to do it since their base maps were old MW2 remakes. It’s not that they wanted to but that they literally HAD TO

[@tylerbeckwith5331]

Treyarch stole the maps from season 5 and 6 because all they built was small maps and they know the messed up with the tiny maps. So the larger maps that eventually come out next year were gonna be playable season 6. Hopefully they dont make them ugly.

[@joshimura1995]

On the other hand SHG got all MW2 maps for MWIII. Beenox and Infinity Ward made/rebuild these maps for the scrapped Year 2 of MWII. Thats the reason SHG killed it with their post launch content because they didnt have to build the launch maps or even the fundametal game . They got the game, the maps and made tweaks to the movement and made some weapons/perks etc. They had despite the only 16 months development time a good chunk of that time for their new content after release.

[@Exzell0123]

i swear to god you were only at 30k subs last month !! im glad to see your success !!!

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@Exzell0123 thanks man, we are gonna hit 50k by the end of the year, mark my words!

[@Exzell0123]

@@JbowenDaMan hell yeah man ! I believe in you dude !!!

[@FameMercury]

4 years to make bo6. I knew a 2 year cod would not matter and this shows exactly why they need to make yearly cods

[@FinalSonar]

SHG getting railed by Activision yearly. I used to love Activision because they made my favourite cod game, and game of all time (bo2) But after the most recent things they did I'm honestly disappointed in cod. It genuinely hurts to see the falloff of Activision. #SHG

[@o.jmorales6520]

It isnt “stealing” all these franchises work for the same game, just different companies and teams, they all use the same engine and activision runs all of them sadly we wont ever see the cod as good as the others cuz they were different teams, different developers and each year almost the entire teams changes on every company

[@WillISpeak]

Sad to see my childhood game ruined by greed .

[@chrisjacobson5174]

I have not purchased a COD game since 2019. I tried the BO6 beta and had a great time and will be purchasing the game. It’s a good idea to take a massive break between releases.

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@chrisjacobson5174 110%. Taking breaks from FPS games helps MASSIVELY.

[@AzureCoatBrotherhood]

Shg has becomed the goats of cod, they actually listened to us, made changes, gave us amazing maps, amazing guns and modes. Mw3 is my fave cod so far the movement hits the spot the gunplay is perfect amd the maps are nostalgic and fresh

[@zxsnugglyjeffxz8244]

its not like SHG hasn't fucked over treyarch in the past right

[@JustDomo5]

Well it’s not like when Sledgehammer did not put Shi No Numa and the other WAW maps in trashguard, especially adding Raul Menendez

[@davidcarely5508]

The game was definitely not made in 4 years. How can this game be made for 4 years when the engine its on has only been out for 2 years which is MWii. The first 2 years were probably built on the cold war engine and had to be re done on the new engine

[@Bullwinkle39]

Agreed, shg has always been the punching bag, it's a shame because they've really tried their best and still got shafted by the higher ups

[@jag3rb0mb]

Last time I played mw3 zombies it was so laggy I exfiled in fear of crashing and losing everything. The cod servers are terrible now.

[@JamesBrown-xo7sm]

How are we surprised by Activision's scummy antics 😢

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@JamesBrown-xo7sm can’t be surprised about this stuff anymore, I just expect it 😂

[@wrayzur]

Pretty sure that “new” Drive Thru map isn’t new. If I remember correctly it was in either bo1 or advanced warfare I can’t remember but it looks very familiar

[@920ss]

Why would they change?they're doing the bare minimum and people are okay with it.. stop spending your money and supporting them.but hey we'll do this again next year

[@tsavv7099]

😂😂OMG, and everyone was complaining about the reskins for season 6, I hope you have that same energy with treyarch’s trash ops 6 knowing they had 4 YEARS of development yet is taking maps from MW3 which SHG had 17 months to make. This isn’t the same treyarch that made BO1 to BO3. SHG is officially my new favorite development team after hearing this.

[@TeamTrapEater510]

This is why treyarch is absolutely trash.

[@joshrobinson1981]

SHG needs to make a zombie game by themselves!

[@Evomcpot]

You need get out of your bedroom and touch some grass man

[@charlesoutdoors2424]

I subbed when you said you could give 2 craps about warzone. I play it sometimes with my son-in-law and friends he knows. Rebirth we played a lot, but personally it's multiplayer for me. That new MVT mode is awesome. Finally an objective mode that most people patriciate in whether they want to or not lol. I can see the point of not spending much money or time on MW3. After getting the camo's I was burnt out like 7 -8 months ago and just downloaded it again because the Beta left me wanting to play. In 1 month this game will be uninstalled like all the previous COD's. I never go back and play them. If I was a Warzone player and wanted to unlock something from a previous COD, but I'm not. I hear they took some of the new WM3 maps and gave them to Black ops 6 to fill out the 16 6v6 maps they should have at launch. Really that makes since because very few people will play WM3 every after BO6 drops. If you built these maps would you want them to be dead in a month or have a full year life cycle.

[@lelandsmith2130]

I mean every studio recently was pulled early to help develop the next studios title just like how Treyarch was pulled off of BO3 it's Activision wanting to push them out more fasterer

[@NathanMladenik]

Ngl treyarch usually gets screwed over but sledgehammer definitely got cooked on this one

[@cobatsqui]

F Sladgehammer to dude they are just the same crap 😂

[@aggytheslob7778]

I hope they were at least safe with it.

[@Uzair_Of_Babylon465]

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

[@tenshimohagon7790]

I just think this whole video was just to complain about tac sprint. It’s crazy too since treyarch literally did all of the same shit for Cold War as sledgehammer is doing for mw3. Plus there’s literally no reason to even play through the last season of mw3 because all of your content from back to mw2 is being erased and you’re starting from scratch again. These Halloween events have sucked for a while. Bo6 looks and plays fine. It’s server issues and sbmm. They are giving you maps to cater to you people who hate large maps. It’s no one’s fault but activisions and honestly all these devs suck. No different from Ubisoft though and until you realize that you’ll continue to buy these dogshit games. Get a pc it’s double the price of these new consoles but gives you freedom to do whatever and learn new careers. Download indie games on steam a more supportive market economy in the gaming industry. Play indie games and hype up indie games. That’s the only way we can see games like split gate or delta force take over for these bigger triple a projects. Till then shut up.

[@drfantastic9568]

Stop the yearly release 😤

[@danamclaughlin217]

You keep saying 4 years but they definitely did not use 4 years more than half of it was most likely used to switch engines to be on the universal engine so they have not been developing BO6 for 4 years not to mention Covid was in the middle of all of that, plus they had to work on a full campaign warzone and zombies plus they gave us 16 maps at launch so your outrage of these 4 years is definitely misguided just saying...and they dont want anyone continuing to play the old game they want everyone to play BO6 now that is always a given when it comes to COD it happens to every team each year I think treating it like its a separate entity is wrong its not its all just COD making the next one they use various team so they keep pumping that dev cycle so no one is thriving by themselves if you see the opening to MW3 it literally lists them all so they are all involved in the cycle all the time its one team is the main for that game they are all support studios to each other so giving BO6 cushion material makes sense to them because this age of gamers devour content so insanely fast now streaming the game for 10-14 hours a day they need to keep up with this new demand...I dont thinkbthis reflects bad on anyone they are all a team that works together to do what activision deems best for the franchise so I dont think it makes any of their studios look bad unfortunately all the big decisions are not made by the individual studios

[@LuisBravo-mf8pi]

Ok ok lets stop with the false information first of all in cold war they where really behind schedule and got removed thats on them and treyarch got put on it and finished the game in 7 months second treyarch got put on helping sledgehammer complete Vanguard mw2 mw3 etc so with that said treyarch has not had 4 years to make BO6 cause every year they had to finished or completely take over sledgehammer and infinityward complete there games

[@drfantastic9568]

Warzone / battle royale is lame, I agree! Traditional Multiplayer FTW.

[@techyougo]

To be fair JB xdefiant gets one map a month

[@ruffnready91]

I look at them as one unit they all bounce back and forth with raven thrown in and prob other studios

[@GuILty718]

I think at some point, people have to realize that it's ALL Activision. The players might be taking some of this stuff more seriously than the developers. They're all under the same umbrella, Call Of Duty. It's not like there's beef between the studios. It's all in your heads. Makes for good content though. 🤣

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@GuILty718 oh yes I know it’s not Treyarch’s fault at all, this is all done by Activision. I mean Treyarch could’ve made their own post launch content but again it all boils down to Activision.

[@GuILty718]

@@JbowenDaMan Shady business.

[@BRADASSOFFGRIDHOMESTEAD]

Makes you want to like XDF, Warzone is all that's keeping COD going now. I hate warzone.

[@KirisakiGrand]

After i played bo6 beta I posted on another KZbin chanel i said SHG was under rated. One people replied SHG is trash. LOL I love SHG now since mw 2019, second is shg, last is treyarch

[@tpose6663]

MAN do i miss the hq in ww2 and the golf kart glitch

[@robertcochran7702]

Good thing IDC for cod anymore and don't fucks with it Since xdefiant came out.

[@Milojensen2nd]

Its a smart descision from an overall cod perspective but the general population of players will never know about this information which just puts shg in a bad light.

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@Milojensen2nd yep, people will think sledgehammer are horrible devs when in reality, they are getting screwed behind the scenes.

[@Milojensen2nd]

@@JbowenDaMan Even i was like this a few years ago just cause i didnt know and now shg is actually my favorite studio, not because of how their games play but for the amount of support and nuance they bring to the game in every new season. i was never the person to come back to a cod game after i initially stop playing but for mw3 it was totally different

[@ijaytv3196]

There is no such thing as everyone being happy. Plus I think it would’ve been a waste of money, to drop a crap ton of maps at the end of a games lifecycle.

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@ijaytv3196 I get your point, but there’s no money involved, these maps were pre made way ahead of time probably before the game even launched. I just wish these games could thrive for at least 2 years but I know that probably won’t happen anytime soon especially since Microsoft is trying to make up the money they just spent to purchase Activision.

[@matatuto6932]

4 years to make this game

[@adammaginnis719]

I haven’t played Call of Duty since Modern Warfare 2019 and then I’ve played the open beta of Black Ops Six and then I’ll buy that next month I’ve been out of the Call of Duty game for a while but I don’t buy every COD so we’ll see what happens when the next COD comes out after BO6

[@troy6686]

Shg always getting the shit projects yet make the most of yet.

[@nfamus540]

Shouldn't you be glazing that dead game Xdefiant???

[@Austin2tall97]

BO6 is going to be great like BOCW

[@Godric_71]

Do NOT feel "sorry" for Sledgehammer. They couldn't care less, as long as they check clears.

[@ItsAero687]

No thanks. SHG care more about the community than IW or Treyarch ever have but they always get the sh!t end of the stick. So I will be sorry for Sledgehammer.

[@Godric_71]

@@ItsAero687 I don't doubt that. That doesn't warrant petty. Their maps are still being distributed and they are still making generational wealth.

[@ItsAero687]

@@Godric_71 You mean sledge are getting the revenue?

[@Godric_71]

@@ItsAero687 YES.

[@Godric_71]

@@ItsAero687 I don't know why my phone decided to put "yes" in all caps.

[@lonleybeer]

Is it just me or does xdefiant look better than black ops 6

[@Austin2tall97]

No

[@Cole_Zulkowski]

very closely for me i have started to hater both sledgehammer and treyarch more and more becasue a new gen game of any fps that trys going with new movement new gunplay sounds more and more to me like fourplay with the game where they add new movement gunplay all the juicy stuff but then they keep the microtransactions in the game to still be scummy and then they over price the game for if you want to pay for it becasue last time i checked on it its 70 bucks for standard or maybe more than that now and near 100 for the deluxe then 200 or something stupid for the vault edition they have which to me sounds like both sides of the ones working on this game are just scummy as all out hell still and you can not tell me otherwise becasue i have watched these games prices go up down up down for over 23 years now and these games will always be scummy no matter what devs work on it and whoever prices the games

[@BigLebowski324]

Kind of looking forward to the Halloween season. Other than that, MW3 is dead af.

[@fatalfox13]

treyarch is better though i never enjoyed modern warfare games plus i love zombies

[@SigmaNomad1620]

wtf do you want 50 maps yo9u wont be able to get to then make a video crying abot that?

[@iFlow420]

Wait, you don’t want tac sprint in backshots6? Why?

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@iFlow420 bro, backshots6🤣🤣🤣

[@xIRONSNAKEx]

Sledgehammer suck 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@motoreese9431]

But xdefiant is kicking stong...😅😅😅

[@VOLDGAMER1]

sledgehammer clearly wants to make aw2 so badly and i really want them to, they always try there best with there games and there games don't really take themselves serisouly and that is why they are fun. vanguard had fun goofy content and was what mw 2019 should have been, mw3 2023 had amazing maps after launch, fun skins and camos, and that game was made in 13 months. sledgehammer needs to be allowed to make aw2. i would buy that day one (that is if it isn't tied to cod hq)

[@HenzPlayz2002]

Hey JB!

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@HenzPlayz2002 whatsup bro! Hope you are having a great day

[@Carlos.45]

Yes🔥

[@angxlzj]

Now is my time to jump to mw3 half the price, all the content, the game just feels so good and IMO better movement than what I could feel on the bo6 beta tbh

[@JbowenDaMan]

@@angxlzj if you are coming in fresh, I couldn’t recommend a better current gen COD game. There will be plenty of stuff to grind for and all the content will feel extremely fresh 👍

[@SbmmWhinerWimpsSux]

Gotdamn you whine alot 😂😂

[@kevinkev1530]

Interesting

[@rafaelhernandez6717]

🏹💙

[@samihamouri]

BO6 sucks balls hard