CTR: Original vs. Nitro Fueled - Physics Comparison

PLEASE read the pinned comment below! There are many mistakes in this video.
To Beenox, thankyou for all your work on the game, it is much appreicated. Whether you're a programmer or menu designer, artist or sound engineer.. I want you to know that I and so many others love Nitro Fueled. I just hope that the major issues can all be patched down the road. Namely bad jump trajectories, invisible walls, and bad wall collisions. Some things like the easy to control momentum coming out of powerslides makes things easier and kills muscle memory, but are by no means a dealbreaker.
Now that I'm done making this I can finally actually play the game with a few days left of free PS+!
#CTR #FixSewerSpeedway

[@jc66266]

*Sewer Speedway shortcut jump physics have now been changed.* This video has many mistakes, READ MORE While you have fire, you now have a much higher larger timing window on the Sewer quarterpipe to get a trick-jump. this was patched in. 1:37 is incorrect. The early jumps do not fail because they make you go into the ground. The reality is that the timing window for the trick-jump is just really small, at the very edge of the ramp. The hoizontal tilting you as you're jumping is (very likely) purely animation. 2:25 I did not mean to imply that the weird edge collisions are random, just that they're bad. 3:24 I incorrectly stated that spamming jump will stop you from losing speed as quickly. This is not the case in Nitro Fueled. 4:12 is incorrect, as jumps can be buffered, it's just the timing window is quite small. 9:06 is correct, but I neglected to mention that it is the reserves system in general that was changed. So the fire changes don't just affect blue fire, but also orange and yellow fire. 10:06 states that powersliding in the tunnel moves the player. This is not true. In both games, powersliding only increases the fire level. If you are already at the max speed of the fire tier (orange, yellow or blue) then it only adds to your reserves. The difference is that the camera no longer has a hard limit at fire tiers, so even at max speed of fire tiers your camera will briefly pull out. *Things I neglected to mention* The directional momentum coming out of powerslides is gone, the game just snaps your direction to exactly where you are driving. Speed dropoff is directly tied to fire in Nitro Fueled, while the original had slow dropoffs Being in the air no longer stops your speed from lowering. Airbraking and down+braking no longer kills reserves. The much taller high jumps also cause crashing into ceilings on certain problem areas that are on many maps. *Final notes* I did not mean to imply that every change was a bad thing. I actually somewhat like braking/u-turns here, and the fire mechanics are a blast. Even the stricter jump buffer timing is a good thing. I was simply going over the differences!

[@Qwuiblington]

oh & you have the nerve to call yourself youtube's leading crash team racing analyst huh? you think you're some kinda big shot huh but you make mistakes like these. seems you still haven't learned your lesson from the soda incident

[@matheusgomesdesouza3243]

Besides these problems are you having fun with the game? Is it worth buying? @JcNumbers

[@jc66266]

@@matheusgomesdesouza3243 I am loving this game! Sewer Speedway is only one of many maps. Overall the physics are going to throw off muscle memory if you're an old school player, but if you're a new player you'll adjust very quickly. The tracks and characters look fantastic. The racing is a bit harder than Mario Kart but feels more satisfying once you get a feel for the mechanics. Online is a blast. With CNK tracks thrown in as well there's plenty of content. Would recommend!

[@matheusgomesdesouza3243]

@@jc66266 Thanks really appreciate it ☺.

[@mr.blocky3274]

I'm still miffed about the timing window being extremely gimped on Sewer Speedway.

[@juliogomesdesouza9035]

I don't blame Beenox about the half pipes. Naughty dog was just in 2030 instead of 1999.

[@topgames451]

Hahahaha ! This is so true

[@NinjaXFiles]

LMAO. This comment right here.

[@taniamachin766]

hahahahahah so true!!!

[@taniamachin766]

@@JohnCena8351 like I always say: Naughty Dog always knows what they're doing.

[@Void_Dweller7]

Comander Shadow Doesn’t matter what decade it is

[@Naughtylent]

This (sewer) used to be my favorite track, not in nitro fueled

[@PSYCLOWN185]

Ya this is the only track i feel is drastically different now. You cant use the same lines you used to be able to.

[@autofan999]

@@PSYCLOWN185 so true!!

[@xonwamalilla]

Same

[@Operative34]

@@xonwamalilla another one, i feel the same way. I understand the speedghost at the end not being in the new game, but the rest of the track is so butchered that its one of my least favourite now

[@Naughtylent]

@@rastas_4221 also the section after/at the last barrel you could nearly just fly through using the walls(original ctr), speed was insane there.

[@oscarcontigo87]

Man, you should send this to the game developers now that they're still fixing the game. It might be helpful for them... I mean, they might just don't know many of these details or don't know how to address them properly.

[@jc66266]

I sent the video into Activision's CTR feedback page, hope they pass it on to the developers!

[@hjohnson966]

Thank you!!! Beating N. Tropy will be awful when short-cuts are broken. I haven't even bothered trying with a couple tracks because the physics are just ever so slightly off throwing off my muscle memory. So glad you made this video!

[@Ra18SJ]

@@hjohnson966 N. Tropy is beatable, but Oxide time trials are 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Cody-tk9nw]

@@jc66266 I pray they see this!

[@quelldieu7263]

@@jc66266 send it to their twitter or post this on twitter

[@david90mm33]

sewer speedway went from being my favorite track to one of my least played tracks

[@DamageMaximo]

yeah same, since they removed the fun wall jumps thingy now it's so boring

[@ToyotaKudoFan]

I wish people in the comments would realize that this video was made to point out things for Beenox to fix so Nitro Fueled can be as good as it can be, not use it as an excuse to bash it. This all can easily be patched. Beenox have put so much love and care into this game and it's still great to play despite the physics not being like the original, but this can all be fixed.

[@Itachi4489]

Yeah I mean, I HOPE they do patch it, but the reality is not many game developers actually bother with fixing stuff like this once the game is out unless it's gamebreaking.

[@supersnackbros2423]

I don't get that impression from the gun in the thumbnail.

[@jc66266]

@@supersnackbros2423 The thumbnail shows that they killed physics/the Sewer Speedway jump. It is supposed to be an exaggeration, and a joke. I don't see why you'd think the video is just bashing the game. I highlight differences that are worse (ramp jump trajectories, invisible walls, backwards momentum giving reverse controls, etc), the differences that are better (blue fire changes, changes with reversing), and differences that are neutral (braking and u-turn changes).

[@N8veJay]

JcNumbers he’s talking about others that take advantage of your video & turn it into a bash NF rant. Great vid btw, really shows a lot of info

[@Uaitdevil]

I loved sewer speedway and blizzard bluff, a lot.. now i hate them because it feels like rolling a dice everytime i try to use a shortcut..

[@yudcrazy4964]

same, now my fav is Hyperspaceway.. the only advanced level shortcut which you can go through consistently if you play with skill.. not luck

[@NinjaXFiles]

@@yudcrazy4964 Same. Exactly this is how I feel as well.

[@lamascartoons]

literally all my fav maps were ruined by the new physics lol

[@Lainen0]

Same. I was practising in time trial with Tawna on sewer speedway and found the shortcut to be terribly inconsistent despite how much speed I was getting

[@pilot3605]

Blizzard bluff is nowhere near as precise as this imho, it's all about maintaining the sf from before the rolling boulder. Still weird, but this is just completely different from the original speedway

[@Maz2bi]

CTR nitro fueled doesnt have the smoothest bumps like in the original CTR. Sometimes you get it, sometimes you dont. Especially the tortoise jump in the Mystery Caves.

[@ag36015]

Not being able to drive on edges in polar pass and oxide station is extremely annoying

[@silversonic99]

Lol what. Get gud, it's ez.

[@theofratus1]

@@silversonic99 git gud for what? Driving slower? Haha

[@silversonic99]

@@theofratus1 at driving.

[@user-ug2es5wt8b]

@@silversonic99 driving on the roads under the speed limit? You CAN'T drive on those edges in the new game. It counts as falling out of track.

[@silversonic99]

@@user-ug2es5wt8b not for me. You're probably just bad at riding the line.

[@VixYW]

I noticed some of these, but it's worse than I expected. I hope they patch the invisible walls and the wall collisions in particular. Losing all speed and reserves from barely scratching the edge of the track is way too punishing.

[@Nimbleatthat]

Git gud

[@Laughing_Individual]

@@Nimbleatthat git fucked

[@VixYW]

@@Nimbleatthat I can't when a near success breaks my flow completely while I'm practicing.

[@asce780]

@DVJFan he was clearly trolling for responses like this lmfao

[@ComradeQuagsire]

@@Nimbleatthat tell that to the people who programed collisions to be half a foot away from the walls lmao

[@ZombieaidZ]

Glad someone else talked about the random stutter that happens at ramps and jumps. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve missed the shortcut on blizzard buff because I just randomly lost all my speed at the moment I jumped

[@Vinyl_DjPon3]

Sewer Speedway really makes me so sad now. It was legitimately my favorite map in CTR because of the the final full Pipe section and sliding on the walls. Now it's my least favorite map in Nitro Fueled.

[@steffewagon1505]

ikr. sewer speedway was so satisfying to speedrun through, especially when ur gaining speed by sliding on the pipewalls.

[@paytonmeeks9559]

So I'm not lying to myself the game is a little busted on the physics end

[@x7ameedo700]

I knew something was off, i used to be more confident in controlling, thank you for this great video

[@RGScentral]

I knew something was off... Played this game for years as a kid and could always get the shortcuts right. Now it just feels clunky.

[@MrMolchester]

Hope the devs see this. These changes are making me not enjoy the game as much. Feels clunky to me. Although, I think the track skip patches and continuous blue fire is a good change.

[@jc66266]

I agree that the skips patching is for the best (it actually needs some fixes since there is new skips). The blue fire is definitely much more intuitive, and very fun to master.

[@Jimmylango]

I thought I forgot the technique. Bloody nitro fueled

[@datsnaik6886]

The number of times i've bumped into that fkn sewer shortcut on the last lap of the oxide time trial...

[@DatBoi-mo9vc]

I cant even beat n tropy because of how fucking tight the limits are on that jump.

[@Terrtail]

@@DatBoi-mo9vc To beat N Tropy you don't need to take the shortcut at all, just mantain SF throughout the race and you'll beat him, now Oxide is the real problem, you MUST take that broken inconsistent shortcut on all 3 laps otherwise you're screwed.

[@delaney6413]

And then when you DO, you end up getting squished by a barrel. I swear, I NEVER got squished in the original. I dunno what that one is about.

[@DoctorPiranhas]

So there are real issues, I thought I had gone insane...sure, I'm rusty, but I used to be not _too_ bad! This game is kicking my ass lol

[@Vulcanfaux]

Yeah screw that jump in sewer speed way, cant tell you how many times I had to retry it to get the platinum relic

[@GBA_Raspberry]

I had to retry over 150 times EASILY. The jump is fucking lame as fuck.

[@Lainen0]

I just got the platinum relic for it today with Tawna. I had plenty of speed and wasn't making it so I focused on timing but then that didn't seem to matter either so it was inconsistent af

[@Vulcanfaux]

@Mac Loud damn it. Thanks for reminding me imma need to somehow master that short cut to beat oxides time. Not sure if I can beat it with out using the short cut.

[@santiagomoralesgarcia1802]

@@Vulcanfaux Was really hard to get the damn platinum

[@Convoy143]

Not gonna lie, i'm not fucking attempting the oxide ghost, 3 laps doing the same damn jump with no failure is just insanely unfair.

[@ToveriJuri]

9:26 is the best change made into CTR:NF

[@SolandVideos]

GOD, SOMEBODY FINALLY ADDRESSED THIS!!! THANK YOU SIR!

[@alanevans5353]

"here's a compilation I put together of crashing while driving up ramps in CTR" lmfao that's the best

[@jimmymc1188]

I sat down with my Father to play the remake, just like I did 20 years ago and when it came to my fav level sewer speedway. I was super excited.... It was the most depressing experience I had playing the remake. Failing to do the race due to my muscle memory not matching and having race with barely any slide boosts. This needs to be fixed

[@Torturephile]

Very informative. The driving physics in _Nitro Fueled_ threw me off since I'm very used to _CTR_ 's style, and something felt off while I first played the game.

[@jc66266]

The air-braking changes threw me off but I actually like them once I adjusted. Changes to the Sewer shortcut and the slow walls on the other hand.. 🤮🤮

[@Ra18SJ]

You shouldn't have expected Nitro Fueled to be like the original CTR because Beenox built the game from scratch and didn't have the original files It's not far off from the original CTR but they need to fix some details

[@numberjuaanctr420]

Ra18SJ dude it’s pretty bad

[@Torturephile]

@@Ra18SJ, I never expected it to be so, what I couldn't figure out were the exact differences between them until I watched this video. I'm getting better at the game now, and I'm having a blast at it.

[@jonathanmaldonado4120]

@@numberjuaanctr420 if by "pretty bad" you mean the game itself then you are being a bit too negative. Game is awesome even with its minor issues, like for me its the bump physics. Sometimes it kills ALL of your momentum and stops the kart completely and other you stop for a sec then continue on at full speed. But these things can be midigated with some good maneuvering and NOT turbo sliding ALL OVER THE PLACE lol. it's always funny seeing players online crash into walls and sliding off edges for tryna slide everywhere.

[@serotoninja7878]

Nobody: JcNumbers: SLAP!

[@jc66266]

SLAP!

[@yohanestriatmanto7903]

I used to use that Sewer Speedway shortcut in CTR almost everytime.. now I dont even bother to use it on online match because I would fail like 80% of all times..

[@Minkwarrior]

It's frustrating that you've played the original and now you can't pull off the Sewer Shortcut anymore.

[@Convoy143]

I found people on online matches actually making it to the goddamn shortcut with almost no effort, it's fucking ridiculous

[@JJSquirtle]

@@Convoy143 in your defense, I've seen people win the race loterallyn5 seconds after it starts... and I KNOW that isn't ultra-shortcuts kicking my ass

[@goddamnarshia]

You voice is extremely relaxing , continue making videos

[@Rad-Soup]

I came here after I realized they ruined my favorite track

[@0m3GAARS3NAL]

Send it to Beenox, this video should be used for reference when bugfixing.

[@bigfudge2031]

it is almost impossible to get in the shortcut in sewer speedway consistently.

[@askmeificare5557]

Makes Oxide's time a bitch to complete.

[@Nimbleatthat]

Git gud

[@Convoy143]

@@Nimbleatthat Git the fuck out of here no one cares about ur "MUUUHHH SKEEL"

[@Crystal_Star07]

Matt Bandicoot [Dead Account] He’s a troll. He probably isn’t even that good at the game.

[@jelitejbzzz]

git gud

[@NylonBrony]

I'm glad Im not the only one that noticed these things too. Friends thought I was crazy I noticed the differences. -.-

[@XpertGreekGamer]

I came. Seen only half of this, but already sent it to the devs. Everyone should do the same. Edit: Send feedback here. support.activision.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/Crash-Team-Racing-Nitro-Fueled-Feedback-and-Bug-Reporting?clickedOn=

[@Testostyronne]

How do I go about doing this?

[@L1nkk9E]

And you can no longer open the Tiger Temple shortcut with rockets when standing directly in front of it

[@jc66266]

Tiger Temple's shortcut is in general less polished. It's so silly that you can get stuck in the door if it closes on you.

[@thehr99]

This video sums up my issue with ramps/sewer speedway in general for CTRNF. My best Oxide time in CTR is nowhere close in CTRNF.

[@thewooz7398]

And that's it for Sewer Speedway's issues *YYEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAA-*

[@ablade7689]

Also for the shortcut for the Blizzard Bluff track, in Nitro Fueled, there are invisible walls if you go to the right of the shortcut, you’ll lose the boost because there’s an invisible wall, and can’t use the shortcut without practice. I say all of this because for me, N. Tropy was so hard to defeat on that track. But I finally made it. They should fix that as well.

[@Terrtail]

Was kinda disappointed that the grand prix patch literally didn't fix anything at all, and online is wonky as hell, still i hope this game gets fixed and just doesn't get forgotten and die this early.

[@fridaynightnicktoons6885]

I had no issues...until the patch....

[@maruboron]

I tried to jump on sewer speedway shortcut with very low speed, I started from half of the pipe to the ramp, and I still got it. so it really doesn't matter how fast your speed are, if you can't jump on the softspot you'll break into a wall...

[@jc66266]

This is correct. Having a high speed makes the shortcut easier in CTR but harder in Nitro Fueled.

[@vhanzyzone]

And if you re to fast even hitting the sweet spot will bump you to the wall since you re too fast before you re to high to makenthe shortcut

[@tomcrawley3343]

I love the core gameplay of Nitro Fuelled, but there's so much that needs fixing. The biggest issues for me are the random invisible walls when going off a ramp and the way that the wall geometry doesn't line up with the hitboxes. The number of times I've clipped invisible walls and lost blue fire because of it is upsetting. If the original CTR had a significant online component, I'd be playing that instead.

[@jc66266]

Most of the problems here I can adjust to, but CTR was so finely tuned I do miss its physics.

[@JJSquirtle]

same dude. I grinded the hell outta CTR and I made so many habits that NF punishes me for that I struggle to enjoy the game when CTR is two feet away lmao

[@sebastianaliandkulche]

Wish granted.

[@tomcrawley3343]

@@sebastianaliandkulche I haven't played the game in ages. Did they fix all of this?

[@sebastianaliandkulche]

@@tomcrawley3343 In terms of hitbox there were some fixes, mainly for the new tracks, and the game is slighty more lenient for losing reserves when you hit a wall. But other than that, still the same.

[@icegeekwolf4369]

QUICK! Send this to Beenox!

[@Rozzcow1]

Should definitely consider making more videos in the future. I really dig this one. 👌🤘

[@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu]

So in some ways nitro fueled is harder than the original. With these dodgy collisions. The nerfed handbrake turn that now needs u turning tech to pull off and the loss of all momentum on any collisions. Although the buff to usf does offset the difficulty a bit but at the same time is sort of kept in check by the loss of momentum on collisions. So it's kind of just as hard to master or increases the skill ceiling even further by allowing the top players to boost indefinitely.

[@IbrahimShah]

Excellent video. Exactly what I was looking for. They really need to fix a lot of stuff on CNF!

[@ellococrash4265]

Everyone, send this video to Beenox

[@zombislayerx8361]

THIS ONE HAS TO REACH BEENOX!!!! Thank you!!!

[@franciscojaviergarciadelga5208]

At last someone who has realized the bugs and the differences about CTR y CTRNF... Thank you so much!!!!

[@AgentZ7]

I miss some of the unintended shortcuts they patched out. :( ah well, made sense to patch them.

[@jackadam01]

Good video please make more of these crash analysis videos

[@privatezeron]

Okay, so it wasn't just me then. Haha. It feels very similar but these tiny differences, especially Sewer Speedway is messing me up so much.

[@mattievan12345]

im glad im not the only one who experienced all of these issues with the new game. It was very frustrating having to relearn how to do the sewer speedway shortcut and that there are areas in maps that can really slow you down.

[@Crow_Rising]

Something I encounter on occasion is if you come too close to a wall you are mostly parallel to while going fast, sometimes you will go into this sort of weird physics for a moment where it's almost like the game doesn't know what to do. You are allowed to keep racing as normal after that, it doesn't cause your kart to crash or anything, but you do lose a fair bit of speed which can be annoying. Also Oxide Station is horrid in online races because if someone leaves an item on the indoor boost jump or you get hit by an item from behind, you won't be able to make the jump and will fall to a much earlier point in the track, dooming you to 8th place. It can be very difficult to score a better position after this, especially if it happens on the final lap. This could easily be fixed by placing a trigger to reset you to before the jump above the earlier point of the track below high enough that nobody would be able to jump up to it early.

[@markycupko]

Great video, they need to fix all of these things. I noticed most of them myself while playing and I’m not even that good player.

[@matheusgomesdesouza3243]

2:11 - 2:23 10/10 sound effects.

[@a.wosaibi]

Hahaha they were smartly done

[@meerschweinchenn]

oooommmmggg yes okay you put all of my issues into words. years and years of OG ctr are burned into my mind, and as ive been playing the remake, i couldnt figure out why i fucked up so much on random little things (such as walls holding you back or slapping you).

[@erika3174]

THANK YOU. Beenox needs to see this!!

[@themackanboi]

Thank you! Very very good video. You highlight a lot of problems that most skilled players on the original CTR likely experiences on Nitro-Fueled. Send this to Beenox!!!

[@AndyBadwool]

Awesome video man. Beenox should really see this.

[@MGOFor3ver]

Nice comparison. This shows how perfect CTR was (and is). It seems like invisible walls and infinite blue fire is gonna be a problem. Something that I noticed and Didn't like it is the shorcut in the sewers, now it's too easy.

[@brreakfastYT]

I miss the wall sliding from the original ;-; I've also noticed the little jumps you can do on Oxide Station, at the area where you jump through space, I used to be able to get extra jump boosts between the boost ramps.

[@taniamachin766]

See !? SEE !? I knew I wasn't the only one having problems with sewer speedway! Thank you! I've been trying to do that shortcut many times and failed! I used to jump successfully when I was a kid. This used to be my favourite map, now it just gives me rage quit!

[@Superbed2]

Sameee

[@koltonarthur2607]

Thanks for the video! Im glad someone finally made a comparison video!

[@Darkraidalek]

Hate this, stupid collision on regular jumps. I was doing the hot air speedway grand prix challenger where u have to win 2 games without falling off the side. Did first race find then got to 3/3 lap in 2nd race and got to the turbo boost part where u jump over onto either of the 2 roads, and it randomly just decided to stop me at the top of it and drop me down to death ruining the quest. Was so annoyed

[@TheNadroj10]

That shit is annoying I hate that, that shortcut is so pretentious and precise

[@autofan999]

Great Video! Thanks for makin this. I also like the outro music :)

[@jc66266]

Slip Slide Icecapades! Twinsanity OST is amazing.

[@cianoconnor6081]

Out of Time wasn’t in the original CTR but there is a HUGE invisible wall on the right hand side of the jumpable fence near the beginning of the track. Also the random barriers at the top of jumps means racing Oxide on Tiny Temple is a matter of luck, although you can reduce the odds of it occurring by jumping onto the ramp’s turbo pad rather than off of it. ALSO the Oxide ghost on Sewer Speedway passes right through a rolling barrel. Weird. Did they record the time trials before adding the hazards to the tracks?

[@Convoy143]

Well, there are some tracks where the Oxide Ghost gets hurt by stage hazards, like ThunderStruck

[@bobcat946732]

That sewer speedway jump can indeed be awful but I give it plus 1 point for the hilarity of playing online and watching everyone smash into the wall. XD

[@JunJP02]

You are so knowledgeable on these games. It was quite informative.

[@bazingasan8773]

Nicely worded man, great video

[@Boonda-p]

THANK YOU!!!!!!! Finally someone made this video

[@phillippeandpheather5379]

This gives me a smile, also they could probably fix some of these, but it's not the end of the world if they don't

[@fairypawn]

This kind of explain a lot of things why I was struggling to play NF after CTR a while back. None of my jumps and coordination were working so I assumed or guessed I forgotten everything CTR even though I mastered the game well on beginner mode and played casually. Still trying to figure out, whether a technique I figured out, which also known long before within the community, was I always using airbrake or u-turn and why I cant use either effectively or fast enough (I would jump then briefly brake mid-air for high-speed mid-air tight-jumps.).

[@nibblers89]

I thought I was taking crazy pills but now I can see it isn't the same as OG CTR

[@thechance6115]

Glad someone made a video on the insane difference in the physics between the original and beenox recreation. Cause this new deff takes getting used to, course at this point ive beaten oxide on every level by 5+ seconds, but yea.

[@idotintheinternet2836]

CTRNF is a very good game. CTR is a perfect game.

[@matheusgomesdesouza3243]

This.

[@Skippy7547]

This kinda explains why I seem to be having a much harder time on maps I knew I could easily play through. I hit so many things now and get stopped so often

[@flashbaxx]

Half-pipes are so annoying in Nitro Fueled, especially on Deep Sea Driving. With zero-gravity removed and replaced with a half-pipe, the drive-able area is considerably reduced, yet they kept the blades the same width. That last set of blades after a blind corner are probably the single most difficult obstacle in the entire game, and the awkwardness of driving in a half-pipe makes it harder yet.

[@pyrogreg8]

Those last 2 blades in the tunnel with bluefire are impossible to get through for me!

[@TFIta369]

Very good and comprehensive video. Congratulations! :)

[@Adam-cj2jg]

So basically a 1999 game has better physics than the 2019 remake?

[@Manan_219]

Adam naughty dog were in 2030.

[@sebastianaliandkulche]

The same did actually happen with the N Sane Trilogy for some reason... I honestly think CTR is the HL2 of 1999 in terms of physics, they were revolutionary for its time, and the entire game wouldnt be possible without them. ND even with the few resources they had back in the day, they knew how to use it to its fullest.

[@zekezzekekan2144]

Sweet video on man, I love this game. I hit the sub button.

[@abdraoufx]

Great video, hope they fix all of this

[@joelan11]

finally a video showing the same problems iv been having with this, such a change from getting all platinums on the original ctr and then playing this

[@endthrough579]

Man iv been playing OG CTR since release and I still suck balls at that short cut I’m glad to know why, cheers !

[@terucks740]

came from *ahmed jeflump* great video, now i will cry my moves ruined

[@JayOne44]

Dang son! You broke that down, word !

[@siloPIRATE]

The thing with the popes happens with Deep Sea Driving. Get stuck so many times trying to turn the right way. The quick hop thing I used to do on the original around Papu’s Pyramid to turn quickly is my drift would not do it. Mostly for the boost pad after the ninety degree turns

[@xGrzegorianx]

thanks for your videos! it's very important what u mentioned

[@davecarignan]

This was... Perfectly explained ! If these issues get fixed this game will be nearly perfect.

[@9-VoltGaming]

I hope they can improve a lot of that stuff, Beenox really seems to care about the game and it's listening to the fans Plus, Blue flames are way more fun to use than USF

[@RapperrFilip]

THX buddy! finally someone said it in the video! hate these physics .. really anoying sometimes

[@fridaynightnicktoons6885]

Not hate worthy but ctr was definitely better

[@RoxpieGaming]

Great video!

[@michaelrussell9578]

I barely make this shortcut but so satisfying when you pull it off ;)

[@CobraaProductionss]

Need more videos that was class 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@benshapirohamburgerhelper1239]

I'm playing CTR as a CNK veteran and it's still extremely fun. The boost counter would be a great addition with USF.

[@TheUltimateDoomGuyMG]

That was all the information I was looking for.

[@jemadu22]

Hey man, would it be cool if I send this video to Activition? I think it would be a great test of some janky mechanics we've been trying to fix and you show it quite well. Also great video keep up the great work

[@taniamachin766]

dude don't ask, just do it. They have know this so the game can be great as the original.

[@malikrulez15]

Definitely post this on their Twitter!

[@Calvinooi]

I do notice lotsa ramp issues in Barin Ruins with the small ramps littered here and there after the big Boulder thinf

[@jc66266]

The only problem I've had with those bumps is when I hit them side on they slow me down, but this seems to me to be intentional design.

[@7dogguy]

Platinum relics are also so annoying now because boxes are so hard to hit with the random jumps sending you too high.

[@UnholyMalucel]

thank GOD. thought i was going crazy with how much sewer speedway and physics issues i had.

[@myavatargotsnowedon9156]

The points at 1:30 and 3:29 are both related to the kart being parallel to the ground whilst airborne and the collisions on the ramps may be due to the angle of the track model the kart is in contact with, they both look like raycasting issues.

[@jc66266]

Most of the ramp crashes happen on ramps at a high speed on the frame you try to jump. When you jump on a ramp the kart tends to dip down a bit, which typically is used as visual that doesn't effect jumps because you're already airborn. But if you are at a high speed and the intended next position of the kart is with its nose dipped inside the ground because you are going so fast, it can crash. If this theory is correct, having the kart dip forward only after the kart is detected to be airborn would solve most crashes. Some crashes, like the bad collisions on the top of the Sewer quarterpipe you can crash into, don't happen while jumping. Instead seemingly because it is such a steep wall. Thus, some generally improved crash detection would help mitigate both of these issues.

[@myavatargotsnowedon9156]

@@jc66266 I would assume the kart dip is purely aesthetic but the player intersecting the ground is plausible and I thought this too until I saw electron avenue's footage, the crash happened as the player entered the boost pad which made think it's down to raycasting. My only guess is when the raycast returns a target rotation from the model or 'vertices normal', it's returning a rotation over 90 degrees causing the player to face into the ground for a single physics frame (separate from the framerate) causing the crash to happen and I can't think of any other way it could happen.

[@jc66266]

@@myavatargotsnowedon9156 It tends to happen so frequently with jumping though, and much less from just driving. It's possible that the jump dip causes it in most cases, but in other cases it is a result of other issues. For the Electron Avenue collision where you go from the long blue pad to the thin edge pad, the ramps have different angles (iirc). Maybe your kart doesn't adjust its angle properly to stay ontop of the ramp when it transitions and instead continues at its current angle, so its next intended position is directly inside the boost pad ramp. This could cause a crash theoretically. I haven't seen any excessive rotation while looking at frame-by-frames, though that doesn't disprove it. I highly doubt the jump dipping is purely visual, but I should look at some more frames and see if I can support my theory.

[@myavatargotsnowedon9156]

@@jc66266 The dipping appears to be during some of the longer/steeper jumps. The player along with the camera noticeably rotate downwards in mid air, it looks like it's refraining from going too high. Also if you haven't seen any excessive rotation frame-by-frame, physics framerates are typically faster than the main framerate and if it uses slerp interpolation it would be almost unnoticeable under the animations.