Between Genders: Exploring Intersex with Hida Viloria | JCCSF

[@SherriW-azturtle]

I was a Pediatric Nurse at a large hospital in Phoenix and then at a special needs children's clinic. I had seen a few cases of children born with, then known as, "ambiguous genitalia". I recall that the parents and child would see a team of specialists (Geneticist, Endocrinologist, psycholigist+). The parents would then be guided into making a decision for surgery (based on what the experts and testing determined which was the child's dominant sex). I've always wondered how these children turned out. Years later I watched a documentary on a cable station addressing "Hermaphrodite" people who ended up feeling trapped in the wrong body. I believe these children should be allowed to grow up and choose, which sex they personally lean towards. It is a very fascinating subject and I commend you and those who have been through it.

[@oliviakboateng]

Sometimes the medical profession does more harm than good. As a parent of a special needs child, I have had to push back on doctors on so many occasions and go against medical opinion if I think what they are saying feels wrong. We are socialised to worship the medical profession and discouraged from challenging their theories, which needs to change for the sake of our children.😞

[@marilynadams349]

Nurses need to see this. Nurses may be able to help Parents to not urge drastic care. We need to let children grow into their bodies.

[@darkanser]

What I like about Hida is she's so down to earth, articulate and non-defensive.

[@wangcockdickspecker622]

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[@cattymajiv]

She's an extremely intelligent person and an excellent communicator. She should be invited into every school in North America, and welcomed with open arms!

[@SarahJones-wy5us]

MY MY, what an amazing person you are Hida , what humour ,what an open straightforward character you portray , such a pleasure listening to you xx

[@foridor]

Many years ago, I was a nurse in a large Canadian city hospital. I remember at least 2 precious little girls who presented as intersex, although that term was not in use at the time. One had the testes removed and continued living as a girl, the other was treated with hormones. I have often wondered since then how their lives unfolded. Thank you for a brilliant explanation of this phenomena. You exude warmth and empathy.❤

[@simpaticaism]

In the UK they are not treated at all , they are allowed to develop naturally , when they are old enough and they are fully tested for hormone balance after puberty their natural dominant sex can then be helped along if they choose. It is not for anyone to make a decision for these people when children .

[@judithmcdonald9001]

@@simpaticaism Celebrate diversity!!

[@simpaticaism]

@@judithmcdonald9001 who do you think you are to tell me what I should celebrate , at 74 I don’t need to learn about life being diverse or do I have the need to tell others how to live their lives, your arrogance is a bullying tactic to coerce people into self deceptions , live and let live is what you should advocate. This never ending in your face think as I do or else is soft dictatorship , be very careful about what you are part of .

[@cattymajiv]

@@judithmcdonald9001 Totally! ❣❣❣❣❣❣

[@Linnie217]

@@simpaticaismthe way it should be

[@dianegoldman4822]

Boy, what an eye opener! Thank you for being brave, articulate, smart and just a delight! I will be reading your book.

[@andrewanderson6121]

This is one of the most enlightening and moving presentations that I've seen in my long life! It deserves the most widespread dissemination. As Hida described her experinces at airports, with doctors--with her mother!--I was moved to tears. A truly heroic person. I will recommend d this to everyone and urge them to not miss any.of it--watch it in installments if need be, but none of it should be missed. Thank you for the posting!

[@Infiniteavatar]

I wish we could move forward already and stop calling people different or a phenomena when they are not. Can you even imagine how many people will walk into the sunshine with their heads held high as they realize that the world is full of many many expressions of male and female. Not one is the “norm”. Thank you both for this very eloquent interview and for shining the light on this reality. It helps remove the shame. Shame they don’t deserve. Shame brought on by a misinformed society. Thank you!!! I worked as a nurse with AIDS patients back in the late 80’s. When some of my patients passed ( in their 20’s… same age as me), many families ( who only showed up to kick out the partner) preferred to say they died of leukemia. Societal pressures were such that they felt they had to hide the truth. Light is the great equalizer. Hida, looking forward to reading your book!!!

[@SuperSoniayadav]

I have first learn new word GENDERFLUID in this video. Happy to learn more to understand other people as normal. Is definitely heartbreaking to hear how much they go through emotionally, financially, and physically. It has been a moving experience. I'm so, so, happy. People need to be educated more on INTERSEX AND GENDERFLUID. I applaud you and all of those that come forward to talk about. You explained it so well. It is incredible and amazing. Way to go and be happy!

[@kimmmwest4641]

Ain't no gender fluid

[@Mandy-nt2cs]

Gender fluid doesn't exist. Those are called feelings or wants. Intersex is a birth defect. Transgender is either a birth defect that occurs in the brain, or a mental health disorder.. whichever it's best defined as.

[@cattymajiv]

@@kimmmwest4641 People stupid enough to use the word ain't, and to practise gross intolerance, deserve to be cancelled in every way possible, including to lose their KZbin account.

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

She explains things so clearly. Excellent educator.

[@elizabethmcglothlin5406]

I guess the thing that horrifies me is that intersex children were forced into transitions that were obviously not in their best interests, even based on false information given to their parents. Various forms of intersexuality are not even rare. It seems like the idea of rarity was created by the intense secrecy that surrounded the subject. And the multiple surgeries seem like a form of child molestation. Also, there's money in repeated surgeries whether successful or not.

[@gonnfishy2987]

There are approximately as many redheads per capita as there are intersex (any form) people.

[@jedheart8059]

When I was in my Coming Out stages in the 80s, I read biographies of intersex people that are horror stories. Their sex was determined by a doctor. They were assigned psychiatrists throughout their childhoods. It is as if they were experiments.

[@maxinefreeman8858]

Over 25 years ago I worked the newborn nursery in a small community hospital. We served 4 counties , 2 in a boarding state. We had an infant born with both sex genitals. There was no scratch. The baby could urinate without problems. They never decided it was a boy or girl. The pediatrician set up an appointment with a children's hospital, he had communicated with them since the baby's birth. A gender wouldn't assigned assigned to the child. The pediatrician told us that things were changed. A DNA test could be done. Ultrasounds could be done. He said in the past they were made into girls because it was easier. I don't know what happened with the baby. I remember thinking that it was good to check the baby's DNA could help instead of always turning them into a girl. I said 25 years but the infant would actually be over 30 years ago. I reread what I I'd written. There were no scrotum.

[@lyndamonchak4072]

Hida I am a post operative transgender woman but I admire your intelligence, courage, humor, and ability to speak so clearly about this topic! You are truly a breath of fresh air! May God bless you always!

[@betticaroltaylor9681]

Thank you and blessings to you for preserving this and making it widely available on You Tube. I am reading this in 2023 -- in the midst of censorship, stupid people passing stupid laws, high suicide rates among people who feel different -- and the light of information seems to be dimming and in risk of being extinguished. Be sure that I will make sure others know of the availability of truth and honesty about this important topic.

[@martas9283]

Excellent interview! it's a gift to be able to educate people in such a smart and engaging way

[@virginiamaniscalco9075]

I think it is more accurate to say that intersex is not average, rather than "not normal".

[@Coelacanth1]

Only when the world's people have been subjected to karyotype testing to discover what chromosomes that actually carry as opposed to what they think they carry then we may by way of statistics discern what is normal

[@alchkimmy9999]

What an amazing HUMAN BEING!

[@AndrogynousMIE]

Yeah let be human beings in the first place! Let 's embrace all colors of the Universe. It is 2018. Let the Age of Aquarius begin.

[@huynhviloria8517]

Hi like Itshuynh viloria

[@huynhviloria8517]

HI THANK YOU SO MUCH ILIKE TOO HUYNHVILORIA

[@vanessasworder]

I agree ❤

[@annryan2477]

I have been intersexed all my life as well. My mother-in-law helped me to get through all this.

[@jamiecorley1809]

I am glad you had someone to help you through. Thanks for sharing!

[@cattymajiv]

Of all people, the mother in law! WOW! It's the last person you would expect, but it's great! I'm so glad this person found support.

[@suzannecampbell2260]

I'm glad you had a Dr. For a Parent. So they gave you a chance to choose to, be who you are meant to be. You are Pretty and Handsome both. So I think you are a very Special Person. Love n Lite...

[@timwood6668]

Awesome interview. Thank you so much for making this available to the public. I hope and I know it will help educate people so there is less suffering. Intersex people you're such an important part of society and I hope and know that the movement for intersex people to gain rights and autonomy over their bodies is happening because of you and others.

[@nancybeveridgetaylor3256]

I am an intersexed person who is attracted to men. simple. I appeared female in appearance at birth, until puberty, when I had a Male puberty, I grew a beard, chest hair, my voice cracked, I did not have periods. when I was 19 years old I finally was able to go a dr, and found out that though I had a uterus and vagina, my "ovaries" they were actually interior testes. I had Male hormones patterns. full on male testosterone levels & so on. that was in 1979. long story after that. to re-appear female after that. I am infertile, of course as I could never ovulate, without ovaries. so, never had children.

[@happybergner9832]

Yikes. Not simple. I think you too ought to write a book.

[@--5783]

It"s a God 🏆! Don't pity you 🌍 spice!

[@zoiefinnian3540]

How interesting. I am so curious about being a female with a male testosterone levels and a stronger libido and no fear of pregnancy. I can’t imagine I know this happens to more people than most of us are aware of. Thank you for sharing your experience

[@kristinthomsen3175]

Society wants us to conform to their limitations for who we are. I am a heterosexual woman who grew up as a "Tomboy," and I even went into the military. I didn't want to do "girl" things as I thought they were boring. If I had a $1 for every time men called me a lesbian or lesbians hit on me, I would be fairly wealthy. But I have never been at any time different inside than heterosexual. I just hate pink and dolls and makeup and fancy hairdos and uncomfortable shoes and all the other forced compliance for women in our society.

[@cattymajiv]

I applaud you for being comfortable in your own self! I wish that for everyone!

[@aliciamcdonald7105]

Humanity will be better off if it would understand ONE thing, that is, as we go through life there is much we need to LEARN, UNLEARN and RELEARN about it.

[@xz740]

@@cattymajivHida doesn’t appear to be comfortable as herself as a. kemal woman because she is fraudulently claiming to be intersex.

[@marciesalkowski8139]

The idea to just see each one other as fellow people 💕

[@louisesumrell6331]

I'm 64 now. Most people call me "sir", until they get a better view of my whole body, or just hear my voice when I don't feel like putting a little 'croak' in it. Then they are like, "Oh! I'm sorry!" Then, if it's a man, open the door for me or some "gallant" crap. At my age I've gotten to where I just roll with whatever direction they go....just don't call me late for supper 😂

[@SanguivorousRevenant]

As a mildly intersex person - suspected Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia, never confirmed as my family was quite poor and in the USA - who had doctors trying to pressure my mom to have me operated on - and to not tell my late father - I'm so glad mine told them to go shove off. They wanted to remove my clitoris, too. Thankfully it didn't happen. Just leave our bodies ALONE unless there's a life threatening emergency. Those poor babies. Granted, I wish Mom continued that respect for my bodily autonomy and by the time I was a teen, I realised I was transgender (female to male). By my twenties I had to pry it out of her that I was intersex. It's admittedly difficult being a gay transman, but I've never lied about who or what I am. My heart goes out to my fellow intersex people, no matter what sort you have.

[@SanguivorousRevenant]

@@zoiefinnian3540 I would be straight if I was attracted to women, I have never been attracted to women, just men only, hence gay

[@shareathought769]

Do you think you would have felt the need to transition if you had known straight from the start you were intersex all along?

[@lolypopy26]

The way she communicates is it just what the world needs to understand the way they most feel. Thank you can’t wait to read your book ! It most be full of well described emotions ❤

[@cosmicflowstudio]

So excited to learn and grow with this beautiful population! We are nothing if we don't allow ourselves the opportunity to learn.

[@aliciamcdonald7105]

"We are nothing if we don't allow ourselves the opportunity to learn" . Yes, but also to UNLEARN and RELEARN.

[@tinasainz8332]

Wonderful inspiring person. Thanks for educating and inspiring me. Arrived here via Oprah

[@PinkShips-h9r]

Born to represent at a growing time of awareness and acceptance. Thank you for being you.

[@deewalker6047]

FASCINATING PERSON . ARTICULATE INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION THAT CERTAINLY ANSWERED QUESTIONS I NEVER ASKED

[@Ceerads]

Brilliant all around! Thank you! As a Jewish atheist who abhors ALL kinds of genital mutilations, I loved what you implied about male circumcision done for religious reasons. I’m happy that the JCC invited you to talk about your life and intersex in general. I read your book when it was published. Have seen many documentaries about and with intersex people (some of those documentaries you were in). I’m not intersex or LGBTQA but am interested in the many variations of human biology and sexuality. I look forward to reading your next book.

[@Claire-zg2di]

Excellently done! I watched this interview with my 14 yr old daughter who seemed to be battling her true "identity" lately and this really helped her understand that she may not be a specific one and thats perfectly ok🥰

[@victorbarulis4716]

Thank you for wonderfully honest interview from the heart I,m a heterosexual male with the whole family gambit and refreshing to absorb your superb and educating interview lov yer Victor Britain

[@lindapupke3585]

Fascinating interview. Hida is great!

[@Chelsnbaby]

When the girl who asked the question about finding a catalogue of pictures for people to compare themselves to.... I feel like I understand where this girl is coming from. I have spent hours wondering if there is something wrong with me and trying to find pictures that look like me so that when I go into my doctors office, I'm not shocked when she tells me what I think im going to hear. It's almost like personal confirmation before the medical confirmation.

[@Xaltar_]

Intersex may not be normal, being caused by several different possible birth defects/anomalies but it is not a disease, or something to be feared/hated. It is extraordinary and should not invoke shame or disgust. We as a society place far too much value on what makes us "normal". As I have gotten older I have begun to pride myself not for what makes me the same but for the aspects of myself that set me apart. I am not intersex and could not even begin to understand the difficulties these wonderfully diverse and special people face. I am ashamed to have ever wanted to be "normal", especially when you consider what "normal" people have done to hide, conceal and shame people that made the "unforgivable mistake" of being born different.... I believe we are entering an age of awakening, a shattering of old beliefs and lies. It brings me hope and joy to see wonderful people standing up and educating rather than crying out in anger and hate. I often find myself disgusted with humanity but people like Hida help so much in restoring my faith in people. I find it truly sad that intersex people, perhaps the strongest evidence one could ask for that we are not so different from one another (boy/girl etc), are treated like aberrations that need to be fixed. Intersex is beautiful and unique. Just like with male or female it should simply be a description of what not a reflection of who someone is. To all my intersex cohabitants out there, be proud of what makes you different and prouder still of who, in spite of what the world has tried to force you to be, you are. I have nothing but love for you all.

[@Mandy-nt2cs]

We won't have a society to worry about what's normal before long. This administration has nuked Our economy, ensured we are no longer a super power, made it's citizens fear & hate each other... and after the recent deal involving the petrodollar.. Our dollar will soon collapse. We will be at war soon, in a police state.. none of it will matter.

[@virginiamaniscalco9075]

I don't think "not normal" is the accurate phrase; I think "not average" is the correct phrase. Gender IS a spectrum; it is not binary.

[@cattymajiv]

I can't claim I love all people. But gender or sex, too much, too little, the right or wrong mixture, or how it gets expressed, has never been something I used to judge people. I just can't see how anyone could think another person is less because of any aspect of gender or sexuality. I judge people on what they CHOOSE TO BE, not on how they were born or developed physically.

[@aliciamcdonald7105]

Beautifully stated @Xaltar_

[@gtiboy73]

My DNA is 46xx & 47xy. So, I am biologically intersex. My testes are small. My boobs are big for a male(ish) person. But mostly I've lived gender fluid. Now transitioning to Female.. so much to explain. She does a good job

[@Chris-fr3kp]

Did you do a karyotype analysis!? I want to I look like a Manly Female!

[@anglophils645]

You are a true hermaphrodite. Most hermaphrodites do choose to live as female. It is easier to correct your hormones and physiognomy to fully female, versus fully male. You do need to correct to one or the other, there can be health problems associated with opposing sets of hormones.

[@A_nony_mous]

@@anglophils645 "Normal" male and "normal" female bodies produce both testosterone and estrogen albeit in different quantities. Hormone therapy has it's own dangers. Please consult an endocrinologist before offering hormonal advice.

[@j.b.4340]

19:33 She denigrates the doctor who recognizes a problem, then praised the doctor who completely glosses over her differences. That makes no sense. I have an extra sex chromosome, and my doctor knew about it, but never told me. I would like to have known. The doctor thought he knew what was best, and he didn’t.

[@bayoubabe6698]

Yes!! Thank you for this conversation🥰. More people need to know what intersex is and accept it as another gender!

[@DarkAngel2512]

Most people know what herampahrodites are. It's just because it has a new name people might be confused. It isnt a seperate sex as such.

[@A_nony_mous]

@@DarkAngel2512 So, in your very binary view, what sex/gender are "hermaphrodites"? In my non-binary view they are indeed a separate sex/gender. Medical science has come up with a range of names for the various different combinations of symptoms and causes. The term intersex covers a broader range of these than the old term "hermaphrodite". We, as a society, have to stop putting people in gender stereotypical boxes and just let them decide for themselves who they want to be. They are themselves.

[@Coelacanth1]

@@DarkAngel2512 The word hermaphrodite to describe intersex went out of medical fashion in 1909 for the only institution left to still stubbornly refer to intersex folk as hermaphrodite, is the church.

[@cattymajiv]

@@A_nony_mous So why then do YOU want to force them into a third gender?! Especially when the non binary states of being are so many and so varied! If you insist on seeing it that way, with such strict divisions, there definately NOT just 3 genders! People with that kind of attitude are total tyrants. I'm as far left as anyone can get, and I super dislike the right wing and their attitudes. I can't stand their categorizing of every caring impulse people have as being "woke." But people like this, who are such tyrants about all gender and sexuality issues, are EXACTLY WHY they hate "wokeness" so much! They're every bit as screwed up as the right wingers are! The so called "woke" ones are entirely as narrowminded as the right wing is. They are making themselves ridiculous with all the names and categories they invent! In an effort to seem edgy, cool, and super tolerant, they are actually none of the above. They're just like the right wingers.

[@Maddie9185]

She’s so good at educating people. So smart

[@sortathesame8701]

Fortunately for Hida, her intersex differences were fairly minor...while she has some hormonal variances (such as many of us do over the course of a month or a lifetime), but it seems like her only physical difference is an enlarged clitoris. While I can see why the idea of removing that would appeal to some doctors and/or parents, there is no real medical reason for doing so, especially while she is an infant. But many born intersex have far more complicated issues and decisions must be made while the child is an infant because they will not be able to be made when they are adults. And many of the procedures that can now be made when these children become adults are recent abilities. It seems to me that she is simplifying what is a very difficult decision for parents and doctors who are dealing with this issue in their new born child, a medical issue that can vary wildly from infant to infant!

[@ifp748]

Sure but messing with or “cutting up” the penis/clitoris area on any child should never be done simply because it causes,in most case, an inability to feel sexual pleasure. I don’t think it’s fair to rob someone of that just to fit in some societal box that’s a bunch of bs to begin with. Now I do understand if u mean dealing with more complex issues like removing internal testies or having to remove something that could cause cancer later on if left and serves no purpose to keep. And sure I know there’s some cases that are much more complicated but those types get more and more rare. I just think they shouldn’t alter anything that isn’t causing any real issue until that person can decide whether they want to do that for themselves or not and knowing the risks involved.

[@stompthedragon4010]

im still waiting to hear her explain what makes her intersex. If the only presentation is an enlarged clitoris and an over production of testosterone I would not call that intersex.Itvis simply an adrenal condition that needs to be treated. I have heard too many examples of adrenal hyperplasia being labeled as intersex. My daughter has adremal.hyperplasia. Males can alsi have it.

[@frogmouth]

@@ifp748 internal testes are less likely to cause cancer than living in Australia causes skin cancer! To say they have no function is untrue. Adult humans do not do well without hormones and removing what is there leaves people dependent entirely on medical interventions which are inadequate to say the least. We dont know much about so called non functional body parts. the appendix for example does have a purpose

[@ifp748]

@@frogmouth I guess I meant to reproductive purpose. Hormonal purpose sure but if your living your life as a female I doubt you would want testosterone to cause male puberty side effects like a deeper voice body hair and growth down there 👇 which is why typically they’re removed. I can see not removing them in places that proper medical care is accessible or the person decides to keep them

[@frogmouth]

if you want to live as male you want them if you want to live as female maybe not if you want you live as intersex maybe removal should not be done as default without consent

[@MelissaDuffySacredBreath]

I appreciated learning more about Hida's life as an intersex person who didn't have any surgical gender assignment surgeries. . I had no idea that 1 in 2,000 people are born intersex, or have never met anyone who identifies as intersex. One question I have for intersex persons is what do you think would be best for an an intersex child who clearly expresses their identify as 'male' or 'female' from a very early age. How many are content with just taking hormones to be able to not develop characteristics they don't want? If the child wants to have surgery to clearly only appear to be in the 'male' or 'female' presentation biologically, should the parent encourage the child to wait until they are 18 to do such surgeries and just encourage the child to take hormones and dress according to how they want to express themselves, or to approve the surgeries for the child? Is there an age which is 'too young' to do such a surgery if the child states they actually 'want' this? If the child isn't shamed by adults or other kids would that child still sometimes want and ask for such a surgery at a young age, if they notice their sibling looks more like how they want to look who identifies as 'male' or 'female?'

[@aliciamcdonald7105]

Would love to read (some) answers to your questions as well since they are surely what most people who are not intersexed most likely are interested in as well.

[@NCMame]

I happened onto this video looking up the meaning of LGBTQIA because the I A part was new to me. Thank you to the author for your courage; hopefully, the more people become aware of the diversity in nature, the more enlightened, kind, and accepting we will be as human beings.

[@cattymajiv]

It keeps changing as it becomes necessary to include more people among those who are targetted by the right wingers as deserving their hatred. What a despicable group the right wing is! Yet we who are LGBTTIAQ (or whatever) are the ones who are targetted! But it's just GREAT how the community that began as gay, then lesbian and gay, then LGB, LGBTTQ, LGBTTQIA, and everything in between. It kept growing, to include without question others who needed support. I doubt that any other group in history has been as welcoming, accepting, loving, and supportive as this ever growing group is. It's wonderful! Most groups are like, "Get away! We won't share!" But I do also have to keep asking about the new letters though, because I'm not sharp enough to figure them out. What's the A for? Asexual? Allosexual? I am among the people represented by the acronym. There are about 6 other words that could also be added. I don't mean this as a criticism of you, or of the A people, and I don't want to discriminate against anyone. Don't forget how much I praised the inclusiveness of the community just a moment ago. But there will come a point where the public will start to mock the ever growing and ever changing list of people included. So we need to think of a more concise name or acronym that doesn't have the whole world, including ourselves, questioning it every time we change it. Allosexual, asexual, pansexual, demisexual, cisgender, etc, etc, etc. With autism, most of the time, there is no need to label every little step on the spectrum. I think there is no need to be so specific about this spectrum (gender identity, sexuality) either, most of the time. We can still be specific if we want to when discussing ourselves in many settings. But at some point it's time to stop adding letters to the publicly used name, or to find a better name entirely, and because that will take years, I think we should start now. I sure hope a few people read this and start thinking about that, because it's way overdue!

[@suzannecampbell2260]

I have been very enlightened can't wait to read your book.🌹🌹🌹.

[@antwetteroth]

I wish that people were referred to as people or human beings that would make it so much simpler.....

[@nuni6158]

This was a really good and informative interview/presentation.

[@Versingetorix1965]

Thank You for bringing awareness. As an intersex person I fully understand and have lived this. My dad forced me to take testosterone as he didn't want a circus freak in the family. We just want to live and have our dignity intact.

[@patriciascott4211]

I’m so glad that this is being discussed more. The world needs more understanding on this subject instead ignorance

[@Mandy-nt2cs]

What the world certainly does need is more dishonesty, more confused youth or more glorifying mental health issues. People born intersex deserve the same love, life & respect as anyone.. but intersex isn't a gender, nor a sexuality. It's a simple birth defect. Which is absolutely okay. Saying transgender & intersex are the same thing is like saying a 6th toe is the same as ADHD. It just simply isn't the same thing. Awareness is needed, yes.. but not Awareness with unfactual facts.

[@mommalisa52560]

@@Mandy-nt2cs Nothing simple about it. The only thing simple is your ridiculous, gross oversimplification of a complex issue so that it fits neatly into your two genders.

[@A_nony_mous]

@@Mandy-nt2cs Not a birth "defect", more a birth anomaly. "Defect" perpetuates the myth that they are somehow "less" than others. Personally I'm happy to live in a non-binary world.

[@xz740]

@@Mandy-nt2csAnd in addition, Hida isn’t intersex. She is fraudulently jumping on the bandwagon.

[@clarepeck2760]

I always thought intersex, (or hermaphrodites when I was a child), were angels. And I still think in someway that’s true 😊

[@thomasjordan5578]

Men are Sacred Women are Sacred Persons at once both are therefore doubly Sacred. 🙏

[@TagSpamCop]

@@thomasjordan5578 No such thing. Gonadal differentiation is antagonistic. Development of one causes destruction of the other. You can't develop "both". Ambiguity is not the same as absent or alternate.

[@--5783]

It"s right!!! We are angels, if we love weself as we are so far. Enougher we are demons! ☺ 👹 ⚮

[@honeybunn_deluxxe]

The original humans were all intersex. But hermaphrodite is is only 1 type of intersex. The erasure of intersex beings is a tool of white supremacy; used to social engineer society to conform to gender norms, and birth more white children. Most people aren't even heterosexual.

[@anglophils645]

Thomas Jordan, you are incorrect. A true hermaphrodite has XXY chromosomal make-up. They have the chromosomal make-up of both a male and a female. They typically develop one testicle, one ovary, a small uterus, and a small penis. There are many "intersex" conditions, that are not truly hermaphroditic. Intersex conditions can happen to people who have a normal chromosomal make-up, either XX or XY, but they have a hormonal problem. Both hermaphrodites and intersex people, are typically assigned female at birth.. Hermaphrodite babies typically have their one testicle removed. Their one remaining ovary will then take over producing female hormones, and they will develop into a normal female. Most other intersex conditions can be treated with hormonal medications, and do not require surgery. I know something about this speaker, Hedi. She is a biological female, she is not a hermaphrodite. She has XX chromosomes, but she has an intersex condition called adrenal hyperplasia. Adrenal glands produce androgens in both normal males and normal females. Hedi has over-grown adrenal glands, which make excess androgens, having a masculising effect on her. She should have had her condition treated with medication, or surgery, because it has dangerous aspects, making women more prone to heart attacks. Hedi has chosen not to be treated for her condition, because she likes being different, despite the threat to her health. But she is definitely not a hermaphrodite.

[@AlteredEgo-tq1sd]

As for me, I see this person as a VERY attractive intelligent human being with a great personality & a sense of humor. Unless I plan to sleep with a person, his or her sexual orientation is not a problem. We all simply need to accept, embrace, & appreciate others as they are & stop attempting to place everyone into the SAME ridiculous societal boxes imposed upon us from societal idiots.

[@karenmininni4962]

So very beautiful. The darkest hour is just before the dawn. If only we could share our experience and our hopes together in support of one another no matter what. Its called love.

[@indigoblue9893]

I had heard of hermaphrodite, but Hida articulated very nicely and educated about intersex people and the different gender that people are born with. Lots of information and awareness of this community. I wish she would say the name of her book, as I want to buy it.

[@GoldNGhostsParanormal]

Hida Viloria's book is called "Born Both - An intersex life". You can hear her read the entire book for free here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpvYi56AqcSceqs

[@TagSpamCop]

Intersex corresponds to a range of medical conditions that cause non-typical pathways through sexual development. It's not a gender identity, not an identity at all. Intersex people are male and female, and it's disturbing to insist that they are "other". There is no "both". Any evolutionary or developmental biologist will tell you that. She's not an expert on any of this. _Being_ the thing is not the same thing as being an expert on the thing. I'm the only one who drives by car, but I am not a mechanic.

[@beatrizangeles-lopez5121]

Hahaha your tone is so righteous and a bit angry???? Take a chill pill and let the person who is experiencing the intersex body speak for themselves!!!!

[@jaijai5250]

@@TagSpamCop thank you for your articulate comment. I found this video interesting, because I knew very little about intersex. However, I agree with you, and the norm is usually the vast majority. I particularly like how you explain it as a hiatus in the gonadal developmental pathway.

[@bailey2777]

I think it's called Born Both 😊

[@SophiesWorld2024]

More people need to know about baby development in the womb...how clitoris becomes penis and ovaries become testicles if the conditions are there. We wouldn't treat men and women so differently then.

[@jessiem276]

They ARE different.

[@soilmanted]

@@jessiem276 They are different, but are they _so_ different?

[@Chris-fr3kp]

They are different because only men have a y chromosome. But they all humans

[@mmartin556]

@@Chris-fr3kp. What about the people with a vagina but also a Y and X chromosome?

[@nancybeveridgetaylor3256]

I have a blend of both male female characteristics genetically. I was born looking female externally but I had a Male puberty. I grew a beard, voice change, chest hair, puberty hair, my clitorus enlarged. What was found out was that my ovaries were both testicular and ovarian tissues. I have a uterus as well. I am not fertile. So... that is my trajectory. Now that I am 59 years old, i look the most female i have since child hood. I think it's because i am post productive of my adult hormones.

[@nextlevelintactivism8195]

Love you Hida! Won't forget you since meeting at the International Symposium on the Rights of the Child!

[@dochics1053]

I been a female from a young age now older it's back and forth between man and women gender fluid has started for real or I am feeling something else????

[@khart5453]

From the beginning of time, people born intersexed would be the spiritual leaders of a tribe. They were more empathetic and able to help anyone because of their unique gift. We need to respect nature in all its glory and appreciate every human for who they are as a person, not what color the smoke is that comes out of a baloon❤

[@jones2277]

this has been so illuminating. not at all what i expected based on the intro. really glad i watched! she looks like the singer Pink btw.

[@francesgeiske9069]

What I find So Overwhelmingly Alive , is the Fact that we are all just being “HUMAN BEINGS”! It is so WONDERFUL that we are now entering a new generation where we are all Humans, and can be what ever we Identify ourselves as, boy, girl, both, or non of these labels! We have the Right to choose what kind of HUMAN BEING WE WANT TO BE, and I don’t think that has nothing to do with us sexually. I hope that people will open their hearts 💕 to the world we live in and not judge anymore. We could be living in the coming New World!!!

[@bmm7132]

I wish you could put out a movie or TV biography? I learned a lot from you! Thank you!

[@ellefeldman]

I teach elementary middle sex Ed and I’m starting to realize I may need to make the resources I need to teach well-I always talk about intersex and the imagery in From Conception To Birth, which came out when I was in high school, was so so helpful in understanding.

[@cattymajiv]

Sex education in schools needs to be DRASTICALLY expanded in SO MANY WAYS. And it needs to be mandatory for all kids, no matter where they are schooled. The hiding of information from kids, who will soon be adults, and refusal to discuss things openly, in a comfortable and open way, is a sin!

[@dann5268]

Very interesting!! So well done!!!

[@kirasussane1556]

I just started to get more informed about intersex and I can say she is one of my favorites ,she is very good at explaining her experience and very funny. I really want to buy her book. Also I think she is very handsome/beautiful.

[@jamesandchante]

So, she had an atopic pregnancy? So, she must have functional ovaries (or she has a uterus and received IVF) Does she also have a functional uterus? Or is her uterus non-existent or only partially formed? Is this what caused her to have an ectopic pregnancy? If so, why didn't her doctors inform her of this? Ectopic-pregnancies are life-threatening for a mother, and almost always result with the baby dying. So, if someone has the likelihood of having an ectopic pregnancy you would think the doctor would warn her about it, or if they weren't sure, but thought there might be a risk they would suggest testing, but in a respectful and kind way. I didn't appreciate the way that one doctor spoke to her about her body that made her feel bad about herself.

[@frogmouth]

Ectopic not atopic. Yes, it's life-threatening. Yes, ovaries are functional. Functional uterus missing, also mammaries so incomplete female and enlarged clitoris which happens due tom extra testosterone, a male hormone.

[@TheBigO-k6g]

No one picks their sexuality and no one picks the genitals they are born with. No one should ever feel bad or wrong for their feelings and / or the body they were born with. I think this person has the main point to take away. Let youngsters grow up and make their own decisions on how the should live or what they should be. Parents making arbitrary decisions for infants and toddlers should hold off. Let the child go through puberty and then let them decide. And no person who is intersexed should ever feel any pressure to make any changes at all if that is what they want. All that matters is their happiness and sexual fulfillment as they see fit.

[@TheBigO-k6g]

I'm glad you agree. The worst thing is for parents to "assign" a sex to a prepubescent child. Leave them with whatever they were born with, then when all the various hormones kick in let the child and only the child decide. And if leaving things just as born is their choice than that is all good too. Let them decide. Peace, love, and mercy to you my friend.

[@lorrainesawday4959]

Very powerful. An interesting interview thank you Hida.

[@fieldlab4]

Fantastic! 🖤

[@kathleenbraker8900]

Wonderful interview very informative I had never heard the word intersex before. Thank you

[@debbimendez307]

I have hair on my lip but it's because I need hormones I had a hysterectomy anyway listening to you has really given me a wide prospective about what inter sex really means. The men/women thing that's going on right now is very confusing. If I'm confused as an adult can you just imagine how these kids are going to perceive this movement about all these gender issues when my daughter was born there was a baby that had 3 female and 3 male genitalia. I have heard of parents trying to "fix" the problem but I feel in that situation as a parent I would leave it alone, because that's really the way God made you. The thing I don't agree with is this transgender thing. I don't think people should have surgery to change their sex. God made us perfect why mess with it. I maybe old fashioned but, that's the I see it thank you again for the information.

[@easystreetwithjen]

Not all trans people have surgery.

[@JH-nj8up]

You could shave the hair on your lip,then you wouldn’t have to take hormones. 😁

[@sarahjones-jf4pr]

Great person really good way of explaining all this.

[@godfreymew]

Respect to the lady for sharing this and spreading understanding where there is ignorance.

[@judydyer]

On the other hand.....having both sexes incorporated into your body sounds like a win win to me.

[@ohmissladymam]

I knew an intersex person as a young teen. I always wanted to reach out but every attempt I made was not accepted. I think the work your doing is vitally important. Had this person had been able to grow up this time in life I think this person's life would have been much different.

[@Guillan80]

I really enjoy this episode.

[@jorgegomezmolina2367]

Sexual variations are unlimited and there is no such thing as normal. We are all beautiful and deserve to be unconditionally loved. 😇

[@TagSpamCop]

Yes, there is. Normal, is by definition, the statistical norm - and 99.98% of sexual development is literally normal, and results in trivial identification of the sex of the individual. Intersex is not a difference in sex or gender. It's a difference in developmental pathway - the result is still to one of two endpoints: male or female. There are no other options because there are no other outcomes. Gonadal development is mutually antagonistic and there are only two types: Mullerian and Wolffian. There is no third type of structure, no third gamete. Saying otherwise is ignorant and scientifically illiterate.

[@JamesBarrett-sh5cl]

sorry jorge you are not normal, but then so what, you are you.

[@Toucan11]

Yes, there is NORMAL, it’s just not YOU

[@aliciamcdonald7105]

@@JamesBarrett-sh5cl THIS is the answer. I cannot agree that there is NO NORMAL but at the same time just like someone who is born with some other type of defect they are STILL human and should be recognized and treated as such. I mean, conjoined twins are NOT NORMAL but that don't make them any less human beings. The same must be done to and seen of intersexed persons.

[@JamesBarrett-sh5cl]

Your first sentence has a double negative which makes it hard to understand exactly what you are saying. It is also the run on sentence from hell. That indicates you are a victim of the NEA. They decided some years ago to stop teaching you how to think and started teaching you what to think. They are evil and you are misinformed at no fault of your own. I wish you the best in life.

[@observerfrom5563]

Super interview 🌟🤗

[@MiaSarastriz]

Still one of the best clips about Intersex to show people who doesn't understand! Tribute Hida! ❤

[@davefisher1840]

This was outstanding. I need to know more so I bought the book. Thanks for sharing!

[@bj77755]

Back in the 80's I worked in Picu, , many parents bought their children to the hospital to change them to girls. They said it was easier! Easier for who the parents. I have wondered for years what ever happened to these beautiful children..

[@hermitlifeinthemountainsub9493]

I want to read this book. This changes EVERYTHING I thought gender identity was. I thought people saying they were gender fluid or binary/non binary was a fad, as opposed to a defined part of the human species. This is very educational. When Hida spoke about Costa Rica, it reminded me of how many human languages have masculine/feminine identifiers in them. This must be difficult for the Intersex community. I am thankful for Hida, for teaching me in a way that even someone like me (ignorant) can understand hahaha. Thank you Hida! Please keep educating these doctors, target medical school students. Future doctors of America need you to show them the way the truth and the light! :D You deserve an Honorary Doctorate in Gender Studies

[@darkanser]

I've seen her on Oprah and I thought she looked like a woman -- at least on that show. Hida certainly SOUNDS like a woman. I once visited the Miccosoukee nation and there was a person who I thought was female until he spoke. How men and women are expected to look is so rooted in the culture.

[@pmmw8468]

God bless Hida. No surgery unless there is a health issue

[@marrun7708]

Excellent interview. Very educating. We will read your book. Thank you for this amazing interview.

[@ThedudeMMXlll]

Anyone knows the documentary she recommended? Intersection? What?

[@monicat.curenton4142]

Such a beautiful person!❤

[@MariaFerreira-hi9gk]

Bodily differences of thousands of kinds can occur. Physical/Mental/ Psychological and only the person effected must be the sole decider for adjusting the stat es quo, by any self chosen means that are safe & suitable for him/her. Today we understand because brave effected people who have actually suffered awful discrimination, are ready to tell their life stories so the fears we have harboured for centuries can be buried. We buried our heads in the sand, and forced abnormal to be normal. Today we know how prevelent the occurances are, as in our and every other species,. And we have to make space / time/ love for all the God given.

[@NotABushFan1]

We need to fix the binary female/male system society and not the baby.

[@kassimkhankhan3875]

AnOpenThought I definitely agree with your comment. As my grandmother always said that God don't make mistakes. Our society does. Always attempting to fix what is not broken

[@greenkoolaidguyplays1945]

Exactly. As an intersex person I don't feel like a boy or a girl so I go by they them pronouns. They think it's becuse we want to be a special snowflake but it's not. Jesus Christ.

[@runito75]

Well there are two sexes, the rest are diagnoses.

[@adrian-linisteanghel750]

I so needed this. Thank you.

[@patty3451]

What about gender dysphoria? And how does the exception happen?

[@lotuslotus6019]

I want this book from where i can get this

[@wakewakey]

Dna tests are quite expensive, we have no ideas as transsexuals whether we have intersexed traits or not. Mostly we go off visual presentation.

[@maureens100]

One word for you....extraordinary..perfect human being...and soooooooo intelligent...ty

[@anglophils645]

Excuse me, I meant in my previous comment that Hida is a normal, XX female (I goofed and said XY, which she is not, that is a genetic male).

[@jorgegomezmolina2367]

I was intersex before realizing and knowing what transgender was and that I was Trans. Peace and Love. 😇

[@paulchiuk]

Hida is magnificent. Thank you.

[@gordonclay832]

As I understand that the AMA opposes putting ANY gender identification on a birth certificate.

[@yvonnemccullaghward361]

What an engaging lovely person Hida is

[@doriemckay6935]

I loved this. Open and honest. Adorable men the both of you. ❤from northern California USA

[@jf8200]

When referring to people who are intersex, androgynous, or gender fluid, I know the pronoun 'they' is sometimes used instead of '(s)he'. Likewise, just as decades prior 'Ms.' made it onto the scene, 'Mx.' is now used sometimes instead of 'Mr(s)'. However, for those of us in the South for whom 'Sir' and 'Ma'am' are a culturally important part of everyday life, is there a corresponding genderless honorific? What about when you are addressing an audience--so often the phrase "ladies" and "gentlemen" is used but it feels exclusionary.

[@karinaklinkeviciute2444]

Not sure about the neutral option for sir/ma'am, but for the audience "Hello everybody/Thanks everyone" etc. comes to mind.

[@easystreetwithjen]

Politeness doesn't require the identification of someone's genitals.

[@54jeanmarie]

She is adorable!!