SpaceX Starlink Slower & Cost More Than HughesNet

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[@jefferyshall]

That's a joke right? or at a minimum a rhetorical question.

[@sprky777]

Hughsnet utilizes geosynchronous satellites. They are in orbit 22,000 miles away overhead. Even if the bulk data rate for download is faster, the latency rate is higher. That matters for some programs.

[@billcape9405]

Anyone who had HughesNet knows, for a fact, that it stinks. I would not be able to watch this video without buffering. HughesNet only has 2 satellites. That means 50% of their customers are sharing the same bandwidth. Also, their two satellites are in geosynchronis orbit which increases their latency. Starlink is in LEO and it makes a difference. By the way... there isn't a great big difference in price.

[@daveestes-z4q]

I have Starlink and am completely satisfied with it, never had anything better, my neighbor just switched from HughesNet and can't believe the difference, they love Starlink

[@johnwetmore1527]

I sold, installed and serviced HugheNet, ViaSat and Sky Caster's for 15 years and can tell you that SpaceX is far superior to any of these. Latency is the most important parameter when it comes to broadband. Another thing to remember is that the three systems that I sold are not able to be self-installed because they require delicate transmitter adjustments that if done incorrectly can interfere with other's services.

[@edzanjero353]

Which part of the country did you service?

[@deadpool1966]

Jupiter 3 satellite was added this past year not 15 years ago lord

[@jdburch7402]

It’s not about the speed, it’s about the latency.

[@jcristina]

Absolutely... It's a major part of it!

[@wernerpd777]

Unless Hughesnet forsakes all geosynchronous satellites in favor of LEO satellites, they will never fix latency. The latency is a direct result of physics/distance travelled. A LEO satellite may have to go between 300-500 miles per hop. A geosync satellite is forced to be at an altitude of 22,236 miles. Since the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second, a single hop up and back to the satellite will be 22,236x2= 44,472 miles. If you do the quick math, that amounts to 44,472/186,000 = .239 seconds or 239 milliseconds. In order to complete a VOIP phone call, the max latency you can have before you get echo is between 180-200 milliseconds. Clearly, you cannot do VOIP over HughesNet. This also applies to other latency dependent apps, such as gaming, live streaming, TEAMs, etc.

[@georgemcphail6367]

Right you are. I work from home as a data tech dev, and communication has never been better now I am StarLinked. Hughes is complete garbage! I even had to pay them to get rid of the hardware, even though I am still stuck with their cumbersome dish. The tech behind Flatface is laudable and easier to dispose of, although I doubt that will be the case. Marketplace disruption at its best. Way to go boring Starlink and Spacex!

[@wbehrens62]

The speed of light is not just a good idea...its a law.

[@______IV]

The overwhelming majority of people use the web for looking stuff up, shopping, and streaming content. So latency isn’t an issue for them. Latency is mainly just an issue for professionals and gamers.

[@jamescouture775]

HugheNet can offer higher speed because their customers are running to other services leaving more space for the few left behind.

[@jcristina]

🚀

[@bilbo2016]

[@daveh5605]

Your 3 points are spot on , I was a Hughesnet user for ugh....20 yrs out here in the hinterlands , but as soon as SpaceX got the dish to me I was out. Now about the forth point you may not know about , in those twenty years I learned the ugly truth about tech support. It consists of " Community Forums " that consist of Hughesnet employees posing as moderators. (or cheerleaders if you will) When it came time to pull the plug , I called them out on that non-sense to everyone in that forum with problems being blamed on "user error" that was a fun time , they broke legs as they scrambled to remove me from the site. SpaceX has delivered everything they promised and more.I can game, stream and download with trying to keep track how much data I have.

[@mkloeker]

I have StarLink in a rural area on the east coast of North Carolina. I am currently getting between 35 and 60 ping, 150-300 mbs down and 15 to 20 up. Way better than I ever expected and totally happy with it. FYI, I am using my own orbi mesh wifi router.

[@esanford]

I had Hughesnet back in the early 2000s when I first moved to this rural area. The service was terrible. The data caps made the service virtually unusable. They had the entire market to themselves and they did nothing. So now, they find themselves having to respond to SpaceX. I would never trust them.

[@tactileslut]

I had them (resold through Dish) until a few years ago. The latency kept one of my work sites from loading at all. The data cap kicked in halfway through the first week and while KZbin would play at 144p through a clear sky nothing else with video worked. Add their duration and penalty terms and the company gets unattractive even with a Lost in Space upgrade.

[@RickGray-d2o]

We had viastat and 2 other cellular hot spots for about 3 years as my wife works from home with no other options. We where on the waiting list for starlink for almost 2 years. Viastat was terrible. We got starlink about 4 months ago and what a game changer. So far all my wife's zoom or Google meetings have gone flawless. So for us it wouldn't matter what kind of smoke the hughs net or Viastat are blowing we are not interested. Thanks for the hard work

[@sandie1166]

We live in a rural area and we were on HughesNet for about 15 years because we had no other options. We went to Starlink as soon as it was available. The difference is huge. We no longer have to deal with latency issues or throttling issues. And the billing is so much cleaner with Starlink. With HughesNet we got a several line bill of bits and pieces that made up the total. With Starlink it's one easy to understand flat amount. Nice. We are so happy with Starlink. I had to learn it was OK to to watch a KZbin and not worry about winding up in queue hell.

[@tackleberry1994]

You said it all JC. I went thru the whole viasat/dish thing once I moved way out of the city. Data caps and latency were brutal. Without fail we would run out of data by the 24th of every month and suffer slow/ no speeds until the 1st. I didn't even bother online gaming... Anyways most fun day in my Internet life was installing SL and calling viasat and dish TV and telling them to stop service!. Now I'm almost 2years into SL. Just upgraded tvs to 4k.(slow to upgrade tech I know). Did 2 nights binging TV shows and usage went up to 50 gigs each day! Ida never survived a 200Gb cap.

[@DesigningDan-u4l]

Wow! Learning so much from your vidios! I have NEVER commented before! I used to be a HughesNet customer, but am now with Viasat with no contract. Lousy service, always running out of Data (silver plan) and throttled incessantly. I've been watching/learning about starlink and you are soooooo brilliant! I'm not well versed on all this but you put it in laymen's terms that I can comprehend. (at least most of it! LOL) I am leaning towards ordering starlink, but will likelyhire someone to install for me and review our entire system. Thank you for such great straight talk! You're awesome!

[@williamdaugherty3579]

Thx Joe, on Starlink I used over 400 gig last month with unlimited. This last rain storm of 5” of rain I never lost my Starlink signal.

[@thomasclayton1551]

JCristina, you are so correct. I couldn't wait to leave VIASAT; terrible service, high latency, unlimited data ($250/month) until you hit the cap. I now have two Starlinks (2 yrs), mobile(RV) and stationary. Pay less for unlimited data, low latency and none of the bad service.

[@timkennedy8665]

At 3:00 pm in Missouri rural area right now my Starlink is getting 120 Mbps down and 12 Mbps up. HuesNet prior to me getting Starlink, they were offering 5 Mbps down 10 top for 50 Gig then throttled. I considered 20 Mbps a throttle speed. Plus with record of horrible Customer service, I waited for Starlink. Very pleased and not going anywhere.

[@Nrgheal]

After 20 years with Hughes I couldn’t have been more happy to cancel it after I received my Starlink hardware. I’ve gone from about 5 to 10 MPS to 40 to 80. It’s free for me bc my CELL FINALLY WORKS at home so I m stopped paying AT&T for a landline! ($120 monthly). I owned my Hughes equipment and was not in a contract, yet the Hughesnet rep (always in Philippines) tried to get me to pay $400 for violation of contract! I called out BS on that real quick! I was on the secondary wait list with SL for a couple weeks then was notified I was moved to regular customer / full speed. I highly recommend you go with Starlink!

[@mikegreer1760]

I had Hughesnet and Viasat because that is all that was available. When Starlink was available I switched and have never looked back. My last Viasat bill was $108 for a service that rebooted itself 5 or 6 times a day in rural East Texas. My last bill with Starlink, $120.00. For a $12.00 difference it is a no brainer. Very little latency, easy setup and no bandwith restrictions.

[@USMC6976]

My ViaSat bill was $170 and 150gb cap. StarLink is $120 and 1 terabyte cap. I have never come close to the StarLink cap, but regularly hit the ViaSat cap. And when i switched to StarLink, ViaSat had me send back their modem that I had paid $10 a month for for 9 years or pay them another $300. I sent it back. They then tried to tell me they never received it. I gave them the tracking number. That surprised them. I think too many people didn't keep track and they were able to get another $300 from everyone.

[@Zulonix]

The moment I saw the title, I knew you would be talking about latency. 😊

[@Pathless168]

I had hughsnet for a 2 year contract i would not let prisoners use this internet. Every time it rained hard the unit fried and it would take 2-3 weeks to get a repair person out to replace the electronics package in it. I finally had to add at an extra cost the serviced plan because they where replacing it 5-6 times a year. A light rain no service a bird crosses its path no service. I was getting 6-10 seconds of lag time. It would take one week to reach the data cap and then I was switched to the horrid slow speeds for the remaining month. Hughesnet is a nightmare and they had me under a 2 year contract. Please Please Please Pleas do not fall for Hughesnets "faster speed, cheaper cost" I have had starlink for a year now and im loving it.

[@cliftonveasey1482]

I think a lot of HughesNet users already left because of Starlink. I was a HughesNet user for two years and I couldn't care less what new technology they have. This is their last attempt to get some customers back. I feel they have screwed over user's long enough. Nothing compares to Starlink for rural Internet.

[@jamesl9338]

Love the video as usual! Great comparison. We had Hughes net as an option but instantly saw the cap and stayed with century link at the time. As soon as we were able to get Starlink we never looked back and don’t plan on it!

[@davidcolwell614]

My Starlink now gets unbelievable speeds in storms. The other day it was raining about an inch an hour for two hours. I only lost service for about five minutes three times. DIRECTV would’ve been out of service for about four hours during those two hours. No way that a satellite in geosynchronous orbit can punch through a storm like that.

[@peterhumphries9227]

Hughes net is a terrible company. When I moved to a rural location in NC , they told me I had no other choice but to use them. I told them I did have a choice, and that was to wait for starlink. I would never switch to Hughes net. Starlink did actually cap us for a few months and then took off the cap last year. Love the videos, dude. Thanks for what you do.

[@davidstewart3804]

Spot on my friend. My Viasat contract of two years just expired. Boy did they scramble with better offers when I cancelled. My Starlink will be active within the next couple weeks. These traditional satellite companies simply can’t compete on a technological level. Even if Viasat would have offered to cut my monthly bill in half and remove the data cap entirely, I would still have switched over to Starlink for several reasons.

[@jcristina]

🚀🚀🚀

[@Kato22PR]

Thanx for splitting that promo up. You’re deff taking notes. Good video. Even trowing in that subscribe.

[@michaelgephardt5576]

In Short I’ve had both of these service packages over the past few decades. I’ve paid there ridiculous price for their meager service only to be offered a cheaper rate after switching to the far superior Starlink. I’m extremely happy with Starlink. We won’t be going back. I won’t be going back.

[@_xyzyz_]

when we dropped hughes they told us to keep the equipment we hated the running ‘out’ of data on our plan and then had to figure that out on our own and pay an indulgence fee for the sin of needing more data

[@engineer12v]

#JCristina not to mention hugesnet didn't give two caps about its service or speed until starlink came around.

[@Unappreciatedchef]

Living in a remote area with limited options, my dad used to pay a whopping $300 a month for HughesNet with a measly 20GB data cap and bundled (unnecessary) satellite TV. The internet was unusable after throttling, and forget streaming! Thankfully, Starlink has been a game-changer. We can finally ditch the unreliable local phone company and HughesNet's cloud-cover woes. Starlink keeps us connected even during storms - a huge win!

[@jcristina]

Wow. HughesNet is awful.

[@Taco-tuesday09]

With my time with Hugh’s net I can tell you when they say they throttle they mean they wipe out, I wasn’t getting 1mpbs download speed and we had the best plan they could offer. Sadly I then went to Viasat and signed a year contract thinking bigger numbers meant better speeds, my speed on average then was 0.25 mbps, and now I gotta pay 100$ to break the contract early, and plus the hardware fee for starlink is super high, so really it’s at the point where we gotta wait out for about another few months before we make any big money decisions, this year has been a roller coaster for us

[@horsetarget123]

He's right. Im waiting for my contact to end.

[@tailor6877]

Hello! I am writing to you from Europe, Hungary. As a result of your videos, I ordered the starlink and I love it. I use it with my own TP-Link AX72 Router. My ping is between 20-60 Ms. My download is between 240-320 Mbps. My upload is 35-50 Mbps The support is very helpful and they responded the next day. Starlink was my best decision.

[@jlh276]

Our starlink is awesome. Were in a canyon in the national forest in central east AZ. We switched from viasat and we love starlink

[@Gilikemail]

As long as Hughesnet keeps that data cap, it's a no-brainer choice. I had almost 2 weeks that I could watch KZbin and NetFlix. Then 2 or more weeks where I could only check email or my Facebook. It's less money than Starlink, but you only get to use it 1/2 as much.

[@user-hi4ir7ms1f]

Buyer beware with HughesNet! In my experience, throughput was abysmal, not even close to 'high-speed broadband' as they advertised. And yet, they throttled my speed when I overran the ridiculously low data cap. WTH! Performance was already almost unusable, so slowing my connection down made it totally useless. Even with shiny new H/W, their corporate culture is suspect. Although not perfect, SpaceX Starlink is the first service to come through for us in rural AZ. It'll take a lot more than fluff advertising to get me to switch.

[@gottfriedheumesser1994]

That reminds me of phone calls via geostationary satellites in the last millennium: We always wondered why we had to wait for the answer so long. It's the latency.

[@MagicFlyinPotato]

200GB is nothing. I have hitting 1TB+ the past few months, being that I run a gaming channel and game downloads can be and a lot of the time are HUGE! This is with not downloading everything I need with other software updates. I still have my fingers crossed that Starlink will not punish us. Every time I get a Hughesnet, DirectTV and other "High-Speed" Internet junk mail....it gets ripped up and thrown away without even thinking twice.

[@jcristina]

Agree.. I use just over 1TB per month. 5X the amount provided.

[@USMC6976]

I use those advertisements to start fires in my firepit.

[@Snugs_TTV]

Yup i went T-Mobile cellular internet and a mimo antenna setup and are seeing about 800 down and 100 up. However if you don’t have anywhere near ok cell reception starlink is a way better option. I just think it’s a big loss that starlink has substantial start up costs

[@JoseBCruz-kp5hb]

You are right. I move from HughesNet to Starlink. I have no regrets. It’s the best investment I have ever made. And thanks for convincing me to get starlink. A neighbor told me about it. But you convinced me with your review and your own experience. Thanks Mr JCristina.

[@brradb8840]

Round trip, there AND back Latency of the sat signals alone, no hardware, are Starlink -> 684 miles = 3.672 mSec & Jupiter-3 -> 44472 miles = 238.73 mSec.

[@scottsindle7208]

Just dropped VIASAT after adding Starlink. VIASAT was $77 a month and Starlink is $120. The issue with VIASAT was the data cap. After hitting the data cap, I was slowed down so much that you couldn't watch a movie without an extreme amount of buffering. Enough frequent buffering that it wasn't enjoyable watching TV. I've had Starlink for two months and (knock on wood) I haven't had one episode of buffering. Yes, I'm paying $43 more a month, but it's well worth not having a data cap and not seeing any buffering.

[@royrobinson4636]

I think the people at HughesNet have wildly underestimated Starlink's internet service. I live in a very rural foothill area of Southern California, and my Starlink speeds "average" 200+Mbps (download) and 18Mbps (upload) with a latency between 19-35ms. I have recorded Starlink speeds as high as 315Mbps (down) and 30Mbps (up), during peak and nonpeak hours. I have also noticed Starlink speeds increasing slightly nearly every month.🤠 Tell us another story, HughesNet... 🤪

[@laurandaiglemancuso9086]

Thank you I am going to switch as soon as my contract is up

[@jcristina]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@andrewmitchell9180]

Latency and speed cap will be the killer. Not my issue as in Australia. About to test Starlink in Melbourne city due to poor Telstra NBN. Helping a friend.

[@bilbo2016]

I ditched HughesNet last year. Cost was higher, performance terrible, at max subscription with family of 4 we used data cap in

[@johnwalker7950]

Thanks Joe for all your research and quality commentary. Merry Christmas

[@jcristina]

John. Thank you so very much. Many blessings to you and your family.

[@macwall01]

6 months ago I switched from Comcast to Starlink and love it. It costs less and I get better performance. Note my house has 5 people, we all game, stream video and have lots of smart devices, we clear 1Tb every month.

[@budgenatorP]

I just left Hughesnet for Highline FTTD; Hughesnet's high latency makes everything on the internet a colossal pin in the backside. It's easy to underestimate how many requests and acknowledgements get sent back and forth to load a typical web page.

[@brianx2640]

Previous Viasat customer here. This is business as usual, its all about Ping for gaming. We were capped out in 10 days each billing cycle. Once capped it was unusable.

[@jcristina]

🚀🚀

[@delirium5119]

Recent Hughesnet subscriber due to Starlink not being unavailable at the time. Fiber is hitting in my area in the next 4 maybe 5 months otherwise there is no doubt I would be on Starlink at the drop of a hat. Hughesnet works when it wants, speeds vary for whatever reason. I’m thankful I have only had to deal with Hughesnet for a year due to relocating. I truly feel for Hughesnet subscribers.

[@johnwalker7950]

Since I switched from Starlink roam to the $120.00 residential two months ago my DL speeds have been 100Mbps up to 240. Up load 15Mbs up to 28. Albuquerque NM From the many folks I have talked to about Huges they all say it sucks.

[@NebraskaWriter]

I have had Starlink for about three weeks and I LOVE IT. The speed is excellent and, frankly, I love SpaceX.

[@bobbybushay185]

Im currently in East Texas 2 hrs out of Dallas and 2 hrs away from Shreveport just did a speed test and got 2.5-5mbps pretty sad I will be switching

[@bobbybushay185]

This is Hughesnet

[@luiszamora260]

Great video!! I live less than 1/2 a mile from the city limits here in NM and considered as being in a "rural" area. Because of that, none of the big name internet providers are available (cable, fiber, etc.) and the only one is CenturyLink DSL at a maximum of 20mpbs download speed, which I'm lucky if I ever get 10mbps download speed. I tried Viasat satellite internet late last year and it was HORRIBLE. My connection with CenturyLink was faster than Viasat plus Viasat kept disconnecting. Good thing I never got rid of CenturyLink during this time. I bit the bullet and got out of my contract with Viasat and paid the penalty!! I am now debating about getting HughesNet but need some help in deciding if SpaceX Starlink is better although I would have to pay quite a bit for the equipment. Latency was something I was not aware of and had no idea what it was until I viewed your video. THANK YOU FOR THAT! So, my question is, Is SpaceX Starling definitely for me?? Thank you!

[@jcristina]

HugheNet and ViaSAT are deadwood.. Will be gone in the not so distant future.

[@georgedussault7504]

I live in a rural area and have had Starlink for over a year now and the speed the speed does vary but it has always been over 100 Mbs.

[@honeybadgers1996]

Data cap is the worst enemy. That’s the reason why I never subscribe to neither Hughesnet nor Viasat. Starlink is still the champion for my area. Thanks for the info👍

[@markmonse5285]

I was on Hughesnet as it was my only option here in rural Hootervile. After a 14 month wait my Starlink arrived, but I ran Hughesnet for a few months afterwards. The old Hughesnet versus Starlink is a no-brainer but the new Hughesnet bird's 600ms latency is likewise a big NO. Also, in mind, one big satellite = potential single-point failure. I'm sticking with Starlink.

[@billb48843]

Case in point - solar flare or whatever 4? months ago and SL had to deorbit 60 sats. And the point was -- did anyone notice? OH right - they weren't online yet, just came out of the launch capsule, etc. Basically a non-event. My little slice - we have co-ax. They are installing fiber (private Village - company isn't on the specturm) 60%+ of the local residents have SL. (We've had SL since Feb '22. I can have the "honor" of going from SL's speeds to 10 (Yes 10) mps for $80 per month - I'll have it wired in and then cancel

[@mikz9]

I have both, HughesNet has historically provided speeds at around 25% of promised speed. Starlink speeds far exceed HughesNet speeds.

[@korlilkatana7653]

From a non-AI powered DB Administrator, I could not do my job with that kind of latency. In fact, tomorrow I am getting my second starlink kit for my RV so I can still do my job. I am averaging about 90mbs down, much lower then beta but I can still do my job and power all those wi-fi gadgets someone like me would have around the house.

[@jefferyshall]

That 79Mbs from Ookla includes all Starlink services. They need to parse out the stationary service from the rest and THAT should be the data speed compared.

[@TheSkitd]

Had Hughes Net with their FAP limit, never again. I talk on my cell using wi-Fi and there is no lag. The only time my speeds are under 100mps is of an evening. It is 4:12 pm Central time and I have 26ms ping 199 down and 7 up. when I get up in the morning it is over 200 down. A few days ago I had 288 down and 20 up! It will probably drop to 50 or 60 down after the kids get home today but that is pretty easy to live with. I think in the future it will only get better.

[@anthonybrown9114]

I get faster speeds right now on Starlink with no data cap no slowdowns no hidden fees its always $120 and I own the equipment. Its awesome.

[@dannydivine7699]

Yeah I did the hughesnet dealio way back in the day, I drive a truck and was GONE away from home for weeks / months at a time, then when I got home I had high speed for about EIGHT hours, then the FAP would kick in and I had dialup speeds, and they didn't care at all about the GREAT amount of time they collected a fee and provided ZERO service. So I will NEVER do hughesnet internet ever again, even if it includes free beer and dancing girls, NOPE not do'in it!!!!!

[@johnb9463]

In the past, Everyone around here in my area had Hughes Net because there was no alternative. When I had Hughes Net there was a 250 MB per day limit; plus it was very expensive. It was impossible to watch a KZbin video and it would eat up your allotted 250 megabytes quickly. I cursed using Hughes Net every single day And I really can’t say enough bad about HN. 100% of the people in my area of Alaska have switched over to Starlink and I’ve never heard anything bad about Starlink. Starlink has been a game changer by far and for my mental well-being, thank God I no longer have Hughes Net.

[@deanrhodenizer938]

Thank you for this video. It was my first time watching one of your presentations. You had me waiting and waiting for you to get to latency. I am surprised that you left that for number three as it is very important much of the time. I am an electrical engineer and worked for about ten years in the satellite communication field. The company I worked with used only geostationary satellites so there was plenty of latency. This was particularly problematic for any application that was interactive in nature. Yes, we could stream data at a very high bandwidth, but this was only truly useful when it wasn’t interactive. Ever notice a TV interview conducted over a satellite link with a high latency network. It is exasperating to watch as the delays seem so unnatural. The data caps and slow upload speeds of the Hughes service are also problematic, but it will not be visible to all users. Low volume users may not notice that part, but they will notice the latency if they attempt to do anything that is interactive.

[@scottwilliams6122]

Have starlink for over 2 years and just keeps getting better. My neighbor called me the other night and asked if i had internet? He was on the provided DSL at 30mb and they went down. I told him all good and I have starink. I was on his service and it went down all the time. I am currently getting an average of 100-150mb down 15 to 20 up latancy average 40. Technically no down time.

[@mikethetoolman8776]

my starlink has slowed noticeably lately? also still feeding off Chicago even though they have ground stations much closer to SW Ohio?

[@williamdaugherty3579]

Thanks!

[@jcristina]

Thank you William for your kindness!! Blessings...

[@satoshimanabe2493]

The only advantage I can think of is that Jupiter-3 is geostationary, so where you don't have a clear view of the sky, you may be able to get lucky and find a spot that has visibility to that one satellite. With any LEO constellation, this is not an option. In reality, this is very much a corner case. And over time, Starlink will require less and less visible sky to operate.

[@petecomps7260]

Former HughesNet customer here, near Chicago. The latency was awful, making internet conference calls unworkable. Because of trees on my property's perimeter, my bandwidth was usually no better than 10-20 Mbps. Worst of all, on cloudy days, I often lost signal completely. I went BACK to DSL. Even though I had only 4-6 Mbps, the latency was near zero and the service was more reliable (but still spotty). Thankfully, my area recently got covered with 5G cell service, and I'm now finally in the 21st century.

[@allenludwin]

Both Hughes net and star link never worked in southern Arizona ,Bluespan the way to go

[@swfswf50]

I am happy with Starlink. I have no need to change while it is providing a good service.

[@peteroffpist1621]

depends on a lot of factors, but the thing is that people that don’t live in or close to big cities get a chance to use a good speed internet.

[@raymondstevenson902]

Similar system about to be launched in Europe in Jan ,but cant see anyone going for Geosat these days ,especially when Starlink are offer refurb kits for £199 in the UK

[@jamesdismukes133]

If Hughes Net was free I would still buy Starlink for $120/month. I would NEVER NEVER NEVER pay Hughes Net another dollar.

[@tladoux]

You are not digressing in your comment regarding AI. Great post.

[@stevem6711]

WAS a HughesNet customer for about 5 yrs because there was no other choice. Put up with their BS all that time while they lied about download speeds of "UP TO 25 Mbps" which we never saw. 1 to 2 Mbps at best and latency was outrageous. Couldn't wait to cancel and will never go back. I told them while canceling, they have a failed business model now that Starlink is on the market. Never again!

[@ericstephens5271]

I have Gen 2 Starlink in bypass mode with a ASUS router and I love it. The best I have stressed it was 3 ps4 7 cell phones home security system on it and it still asked for more. My latency is between 25 to 45 ms

[@larogersii1]

@jcristina Do you know when the price for Starlink will drop from 120.00 a month to the 90.00 a month as they said when there was availability? They are not limiting orders so it should go down. I am talking about the state of Missouri which i think would affect all the SE corner of the USA>

[@MrPoorCat]

Thanks JC

[@Bears9McMahon]

Awesome vid as always

[@michaellatta]

Speed is not everything. Latency is also very important.

[@jcristina]

And jitter.

[@johngudmundson5020]

I just dropped Hughes for Starlink- Starlink is thousand times faster and reliable-- weather at the upload station constantly wiped out our signal(upload location is in New York) and Hughes would throttle me day after about 5-7 gigs-- to a speed so slow streaming was impossible- non stop buffering .

[@paulkopacz5051]

You must be joking. I had HughesNet and it was abysmal and they tried to rip me off (long story) never again!

[@jcristina]

Agree!

[@sethmeadows4978]

I install the J3 Hughes at work and it’s running 110download, 9 upload, and 38ms latency ping and I have Starlink at home it works really similar

[@luizcarlosf2]

I'm in Texas, Starlink here is the way to go for me. Mine is usually 80 down and 5 up.

[@nealdenison]

Had HughesNet before the Jupiter-3 and you couldn't watch anything without the buffering. Then the data caps could be overcome with $$$. When Starlink floated the data cap of 1 terabyte, I just laughed and thought what a great decision to leave HughesNet. One thing I don't think you mentioned about latency, try to make a phone call with a large latency.

[@mikeygee2465]

I currently have neither Starlink nor Hugh’s net. I would love Starlink but I don’t have a clear view to the NE sky. Hopefully once Starlink gets more satellites up, this will improve. I was intrigued by the new Hughs net speeds. However their data cap and latency pretty much rules them out for me. For now I will continue with Brightspeed (horrible) and T-mobile home internet. Which is excellent.

[@nyannyan123456]

Im fortunate enough to have a terrestrial wireless option out in rural America. 50mbps dn 5mbps up and between 20-60ms pings.

[@PreciousConcept]

HughesNet ended me as a customer decades ago when their autorenewal at three months before the end of contract bit me on at a business location and forced me to buy it out. NEVER AGAIN.

[@christopherstrange]

My starlink gets speed of 300mb or better. Im satisfied. Plus i just got a new router TP Archer 800be.

[@TheJirish]

The upload is probably 5 mb/sec with an asterisks using the word "optimal" which is a euphemism for "never". I might consider switching if they pay me to use it. About $110/month should do it. That would cover the ISP i need to use after 1 day of use of Hughesnet and i reach my cap.

[@mrbillcline]

I canceled my Hughes trash when my T-mobile was faster... still have my Starlink it's MUCH faster than anything in my rural area.

[@jcristina]

💪🏻

[@JoseHernandez-zn9gd]

I just canceled my HughesNet this week. I hooked up my starlink gen 3 and it is way better. I supposedly had 25 with HughesNet but it could not even run netflix. It was so frustrating

[@ThisIsMyYoutubeName1]

I live far away from any city and HughesNet was the only company that was willing to install a satellite. Other companies told us that because of the amount of trees, they would not install because they didn’t want to mislead us. We were in contact and despite them coming out to see why we have such slow speeds, they would always promise something and we were renewing our contract without realizing. Because we are not in a contract, we are paying $120 for the 25gbps and allowed 40gb monthly. I called them to ask about the elite plan and told them I have to speak with my husband before anything. It is less money for the equipment, so I wanted to see if I could find information before getting into contract. So major thanks for this video. HughesNet loses another

[@ThisIsMyYoutubeName1]

Oh, let me add that my uncle purchased a Starlink satellite for my grandma’s house (we have over 25 surveillance cameras running 24-7) and I connect to her WiFi daily since I am her caregiver during the day. She is not near a lot of trees like I am at home, but the WiFi is phenomenal. I click on something and it’s instant.

[@StelzerImages]

I prefer a consistent “slower” speed if you will then an over charged “faster” data capped system. Plus with the SL app I can see all of my spikes and dips where I can conclude my own conclusions.

[@J-Mcc]

Hughesnet is really only valid for business use now, assuming VoIP/Real Time Communication is not needed. They should really try to stay in that lane, they will not be able to compete with Starlink in the residential market.

[@ツツ-q8g]

Hughesnet has a very low data caps and they’re incredibly expensive in my local area. I’m gonna stick with my Starlink.

[@nordicresilience7449]

Overall I'm very happy with Starlink, it has brought high speed internet to a place where no options exists. I'm on the polar orbiting sat's and get at average around 160Mbps down, 30 up, 40-60 msek latency typically. I'm on Teams meetings for hours every day and it has been rock solid since about May (they started offering the service here in January and for the first months it was pretty shaky. Only issue for the past months has been when it start to snow heavily and I've had heating on automatic, then it takes a while after heating starts to when the dish has melted it off. So now when I know heavy snow is around the corner I set heating to always on and then its usually no issue.

[@n8ibz1]

Just dumped Hughesnet, didn’t work out in my area anyway. Starlink is working fine

[@christopherf7423]

Your math is off by a factor of approximately 10X. 35,700 km v 550 km is a factor of 65X, not 7X. Round trip that extra distance adds 200ms at the speed of light.