WWE King & Queen of the Ring 2024 Review | Gunther SHOCKS Randy Orton, Nia Wins Queen of The Ring!

Randy Orton looks to win his first ever King of the Ring against Gunther, and Nia Jax takes on Lyra Valkryia for Queen of the Ring... WWE King & Queen of the Ring 2024 review, and results with ‪@JDfromNY‬on Off The Script. Also, Logan Paul challenges Cody Rhodes for the WWE Championship. And Liv Morgan looks to capture the WWE Women's World Championship against Becky Lynch.
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[@JDfromNY]

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[@justincombs7900]

I think Randy has been acting more like his old heel self here and there lately

[@roberthurt2199]

Randy shoulder was up the pin should not have counted

[@marktaylor6202]

lol...of course, that's the storyline..jeesh

[@MrWebweaver]

We get commercials too. Just commercials promoting WWE. Peacock is the reason we only get 5 matches because 45 minutes is wasted with commercials. I like it being 3 hours for B shows. I would like 6-7 matches instead of the 45 minutes of down time. Takeovers were great at 2.5 hours but there wasn’t a 10-15 minute break between matches either.

[@ULTRAMusicMixes]

Um...Gunther never kicked out of the RKO, JD. I thought so too, but when they showed the replay Gunther gave a chop to Orton's bad leg, which made him release the pin. That was an extremely clever way to protect Orton's finisher.

[@GreyBeardStrongDesigns]

I was at 2002 Summerslam… it was unreal… went to Sting retirement this year, only show that I’ve been to live that came close…

[@dimitrisbright9807]

Summerslam is the second biggest PPV for WWE next to Mania. Why would you not make that a 2 hour event? WWE has been killing it with the 2 night events for Mania

[@IndigoUchiha26]

Watch tomorrow double or nothing goes past 5 hours. I don't understand the outrage of saying the truth. On weekends like this why the would you wanna waste the equivalent of a work shift watching pro wrestling?

[@armandogomez2677]

There is no synergy with the programming id make dynamics 3 hours on Tuesday, the third hour would be called rampage like wwe used to do with the warzone back in the day. 3 hours is a lot but with the amount of wrestling they need the extra hour to get live promos in and storylines Collision stays on Saturdays 7-8 move ppv’s to Saturdays like they used to have, move unimportant matches to that collision like the trios, anything bestfriends related, eliminators. Use collision to get more ppv buys

[@omarlopez1372]

Well...

[@studabeats]

You were close bud bout 20 mins off 😂

[@ULTRAMusicMixes]

​@@studabeatslo huh? The Show went over 6hours if you count the 2hour pre-show 😢

[@studabeats]

@@ULTRAMusicMixes i didn't watch all that lol but yea i juss peeped

[@DTey22]

57:05 Becky "The Butler" Lynch

[@frederiole3138]

Randy Orton shoulders were not pinned, look at replay

[@vileluca]

If they're smart they'll turn it into Gunther vs Randy pt 2 for Clash at the Castle. Assuming Randy isn't actually injured.

[@Hakysak89]

HHH already mentioned this and is calling it out, I’m smelling rematch but I don’t know why

[@cameronransome]

This is what happens when you overbook a finish!!

[@steviemacc2745]

I think all that is gonna play into Randy's heel turn when he goes against Cody & "management"

[@Sami1992WFan]

On smackdown they showed us it might be AJ that defends against him. As AJ spoke to Nick. Nick said no. And AJ looked desperate

[@Nonyabizz01]

I think Bird Girl has a strong future in WWE She’s just getting started

[@AlbyGwyneth]

Summerslam 2002 is the best pay per view I ever watched

[@bpike-]

Its GlasGoH.. not Glasgaww😂

[@vileluca]

I really wasn't a fan of Cody kicking out after a frog splash to the table + splash from the top rope. It just stretches the verisimilitude a bit too much. Just like his kickout at 1 after the burning hammer. I'm noticing a pattern.

[@mrnicemam8523]

AEW does that a lot with orange cassidy. The guy takes a piledriver and a canadian destroyer, and he still kicks out of all that. He recently got back up after taking a piledriver on the steel steps.

[@treypowell567]

Super Cody just like Super Cena, fans are gonna get tired of it sooner than later

[@vileluca]

​@@mrnicemam8523lol yea I saw that piledriver on the steps and no-sell. I mean, he sold it. But it should've been a hospitalization angle. Not a "dang I got hit with a pretty strong suplex, I'm gonna stumble for a bit" sell.

[@MOH_AL_K]

⁠@@treypowell567 There’s barely any similarities between them. “Super Cena” was way more entertaining , he had a way bigger number of entertaining feuds.

[@danskyl7279]

@@MOH_AL_K No. 😆 The "Super Cena" is only entertaining if you are a Cenation fanbase (which I'm assuming you are, which is fine). But for us who are more towards the neutral, that kicking out of multiples finisher is reductant and annoying. It ruins any credibility of a "Finisher", makes most of John Cena matches overrated than they should be, which makes Cena the most overrated in ring performer in history for me, I'm sorry. Just because a match that has multiple finisher and multiple kickouts doesn't make it a great match, entertaining yes but great match? No.

[@roberthurt2199]

The rematch is made Liv vs Becky Monday for the title

[@helomcharles]

The Gunter and Orton could be a story line after Gunter win the title to have it take place at survivor series. Make it play into the brand warfare and LTB.

[@paytondecorah838]

I assumed the Orton Gunther finish was supposed to be exactly that but the positioning could've been too uncomfortable for Randy to stay in & couldn't stay down the full 3 count, that what I figured

[@DeAngelo_Hayes]

I'm willing to bet the farm that CM Punk costs Drew his title match at Clash at the Castle, setting up Punk vs. Drew at Summerslam. We'll get Priest vs Gunther at Summerslam with Balor and the Judgement Day turning on Priest. I'm praying to GOD that we don't get a Charlotte in the Bank cash in after Nia beats Bayley for the title

[@myyoutube19439]

I feel like that they had already mentionned the title match at stakes in the tournament. I was like, wait a minute… it was not official yet ?!?

[@Bowen05]

For the vod, it'd be helpful if afterward, you could either add a timestamp so we can just skip the waiting.

[@dwaynejones_3126]

Great podcast as always, speaking logic. That fucking bird lady from Home Alone 2 was fucking hilarious.

[@anujbose495]

Since, JD never liked Vince, and always criticized his booking during 2015-2022 era. It would be fun to know how he would have reacted Vince's booking during the Attitude Era and the Ruthless Aggression Era, since these were the golden years of WWE popularity wise.

[@playboisilks5643]

He literally said 02 Sumer slam was. The best. Of all time so that’s answer your question goofy 😂

[@kevinlee9929]

Vince was far less hands on back then. He actually let the writers write the show.

[@MoneyTary26]

HHH is taking JD's advice and making all necessary changes. He's giving free advice though. JD should be compensated by WWE

[@royercrosbypatton6370]

No doubt that when Charlotte Flair comes back Nia Jax should she win the women's championship will drop it to her definitely as far as the mens king of the ring tournament I like how Randy Orton and Gunther might go at it again because of what resulted at the end of their match overall glad to see that the whole pay per view was good based on what happened to which I give all the credit in the world to Triple H makes me look forward to both Summer Slam and bash at Berlin.

[@Lisa62914]

Loved this PPV. Triple threat was my favourite match, loving that story. I think Drew is winning at COTC but imagine the heat if Punk costs him in Scotland of all places

[@roderickhill1136]

My first time listening you tell it like it is bro will be checking you out more

[@rodneybrown5523]

OMG.....JD ! First Spencer Strider , then Austin Riley, and now Acuna done for the season. What can Alex do? And should we throw in the towel ? Happy Memorial Day . 😢

[@ULTRAMusicMixes]

Yankees fan here. The Phillies just never lose. What are you guys doing over there in the NL East? Get it together.

[@ghogg69]

So glad he can now say glasgow lol

[@bluebutterfly4296]

26:35 I remember when Randy, Orton RKO John Cena in 2006 wearing a black tank top before that mega three on to match. It really gave me goosebumps because we never seen them face-to-face programming outside of Eddie Guerrero memorial. 27:13 even when evolution was running RAW. The brand split was so special. Kind of wonder what if John Cena was on the same brand with them in 2004? What if Brock feuded with evolution in 2003? That’s what I like about the brand split.

[@estevenj]

LOL JD, the Saudis probably demanded some local highlight. They are paying a tremendous amount of money. Don’t book in a vacuum for these overseas events 😂

[@bkblair71]

I have no problem with fewer matches what so ever. They can be better paced and not have to rush through them like the usual 10 plus matches where you blink or you miss it, or some matches will be cut short because the ones before went on a bit too long or needs cut short so the remaining matches will have a chance.

[@MrWebweaver]

I think Dominic is working with Ripley. Keep the title on Liv so when Rhea comes back she gets her revenge and her title back.

[@JDfromNY]

That could work too

[@Nonyabizz01]

Quick question Where was the Prime logo at this PPV 🤔 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Alisuleivani94]

Great PLe Gunther and Randy orton match was definitely good so was triple threat match. I cannot wait to see Gunther challenge the world, heavyweight champion when Drew wins that match is going to be a banger

[@splash8429]

I personally think 6 matches with 3hrs20 minutes length would be better for B tier ppv. 5 matches don't seem enough even tho it's great that every match gets time and show doesn't feel exhausting. But 6 matches with a bit over 3hrs will still get a lot of time per match. Besides ple being shorter than raw feels off

[@marktaylor6202]

Logan Paul is absolutely amazing, he really is...I want to hate him and everything outside of wrestling he does but ...wow... how he's picked this business up at such an early stage is amazing, Kurt Angle levels

[@Wtffboi]

They should have put the raw and smack down finals and the finals on the same show

[@SomaBT]

Becky is going to AEW and her new moniker will be "The Dude!" 🤓

[@thelordofpainandsuffering8480]

Nah, she's playing the long game by trying to squeeze as much money out of them as possible. She's a business girl and knows she's one of the top girls in the WWE for quite a long time. She wants more money and I don't blame her for getting it as much as I don't like the character she portrayed over the last few years.

[@mellozappa583]

Becky vs toni? Unless toni goes back...

[@davidgalka7126]

She is not going to AEW. If anything she will take some time off to do promotion work for her book and be a mother Seth signed for a long time. She sees what the booking is like at AEW there is no way she wants to be a part if that mess.

[@chrisbelit1599]

1:14:13 i was dying at this part

[@MoeJaxon]

I agree. I prefer fewer matches for my ppv. I don’t like loaded shows

[@freddykennedy8992]

That’s good decision to make king & queen winner have championship match. It’ll make king & queen more prestigious just like royal rumble. Otherwise it’ll make top ppv like king of the ring meaningless. I miss KOTR 2002 when Top 5 PPVs are prestigious & meaningful since then KOTR was a joke until today.

[@MrCantfindanynames]

Great ple... Gunther and Orton, Paul/Cody, Liv winning the championship, the int 2 way which btw did yall see that frickin suicide dive by Bronson 😮😮😮😮... Good stuff all around Id give it a solid B 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@nwo2cool]

The 5 match ppv model does not always work. It may work for the NXT brand, but not on the main rosters shows, maybe for ppvs such as the Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, Elimination Chamber, and Money in the Bank. Like I said before, the 5 match ppv is a rip-off. It may be cheap when watching at home for $10, but imagine you paid your hard-earn money to attend a 3 hour 5 match ppv event, you going to feel cheated because half of favorite superstars did not appear on the show. That's kinda like attending a WWE PLE where there's no top stars with star power appear on the show, and most of the matches felt unimportant. Summerslam does not need to be 2 nights. It's not a superbowl-type of event like Wrestlemania. WWE just to need extend the match card to 8 matches in a 3 hour show: 4 important matches from Raw, and 4 important matches from SD. It's OK for one of the 8 match take place on the pre-show in case of time constraints. I do not like the 3 hour 5 match ppv model on the main rosters. And one day, half of the WWE main rosters talents are going to complain about being left out in a ppvs.

[@garygasper296]

CM Punk is the only ratings draw AEW has had

[@vileluca]

It's because the company is not trying to bring in new people. That's not the business model.

[@TheCoolgame24]

@@vileluca new people means you have to make new people that everyone like just like the MCU where you will have women beating up men like in wwe or have a gay wrestler as you champ doing things to men in the ring wwe dont even have new people if they did they would be pulling more numbers every week

[@Joesledge13]

Facts

[@STANGl.-.l]

We get it.

[@carlosbermudez1459]

​@@vilelucaThink that for long enough... and u might actually start to fall for it/believe it to be true.......

[@Cedrick_2005]

To be honest with you Becky Lynch IMO is definitely one of the talents that needs to make the jump. The few times I've watch WWE this year I saw some of her segments she is the one of the most stale out of everyone. What more can she do in WWE at this stage of her career? She's done everything, I mean if she signs a new contract it's still good for her but honestly she needs a new start elsewhere. Not everyone is meant to stay with one company for their whole careers Becky IMO has made a big enough name for herself to carry other women divisions.

[@vileluca]

I'd say she needs a character change.

[@kevinlee9929]

She needs better booking

[@Cedrick_2005]

@@vileluca they've tried that before, like I say most likely she will stay but good lord she needs a change and her staying in WWE I don't think will help as she's done everything.

[@vileluca]

​@@Cedrick_2005what's her character besides just female Sheamus?

[@splash8429]

That won't help. She needs to reinvent herself. Take a few months off. Come back with some new character. Try something different with her booking. Maybe have her lead a faction with some newcomers. Guve them a dominant run and build up those gurls under her wing and then ofc she can put a couple of them over at the end. Wrestling isn't too hard, most times it's the simplest of things

[@garygasper296]

I wouldn't be surprise me if Lynch already signed a new deal quietly with WWE

[@markk7731]

TBH, Randy doesn't need to be crowned KOTR. He's a locker room leader and will always be over.

[@alexmelendez6732]

The seeds are planting for dom & liv. As liv looks to take everything from rhea i expect rhea to be kicked put of judgement day and resurge as a top female babyface. Might as well she gets cheered anyways a lot dom is her reason to get booed. Then i see orton turning heel. Orton is just meant to be a heel.

[@Sami1992WFan]

Hi JD. I wondered why Becky won in the first place just to lose. Then I realized why, because of King of the Ring. At each Saudi show we see one Title change and last year they swapped the Women's Tag Team Championship on RAW just so Saudi can have a Title Change. Now it makes sense to me. I'm a big Bianca fan but I'm ok with Bianca being on the pre-show atleast the Titles were defended in match that made some sense. Due to Bianca injury. Loved that Nia won. Wondering if Gunther wins. Are we getting Drew vs Gunther. Or is Drew losing again at CATC? Thank you for saying what you did about Gunther and Sami. Lyra face does not tell a story

[@davidgalka7126]

Becky lost fir two reasons first her contract is up and she has not resigned. And it was a way of moving along the liv,Reah,dominck storyline.

[@splash8429]

It's simple. Liv winning a battle royal on a raw to win the title is ass compared to getting a proper storyline against becky to beat her in one on one match at a PLE

[@user-mn4to4st1j]

my prediction between Bayley vs nia jax nobody win because somebody cashing the briefcase naomi or Tiffany to win championship

[@nwo2cool]

After seeing Nia Jax winning the Queen of the Ring tournament, is that WWE's new agenda, make the Anoai family look strong? They now try to push Jey Uso as a main-eventer. They now spotlighting Solo Sikoa and his Bloodline. With the Rock is now part of the board of directors, WWE is turning into the Anoai show.

[@doolysand6496]

I disagree with you about Lyra! She’s just getting started

[@daviddurham5831]

It was better when it was just King of the ring

[@5Starrr]

Botch ending to the main event Orton shoulders were down and ref is looking close up is on X😀

[@JaimeD.]

Congratulations to Gunther in winning King of the Ring 2024. Happy Memorial Day to all on OTS. 🫡 Enjoy the rest of May. 🤜🏻👊🏾🤛🏽🇵🇷

[@cloverraven]

Cody has great matches

[@Nonyabizz01]

Can we just get Roman back… the bloodline story is starting to get dull Solo isn’t the guy to take Roman’s place

[@JHesse1897]

I’m enjoying a Hard Mountain Dew. Very hard to find in my county in Illinois. Surprisingly good.

[@jiibbss_wrestling]

Lyra will be fine. Just gotta give it more time.

[@DTey22]

For some reasom, I feel like Dominic and Liv are secretly working together.

[@nickcline4362]

For some reason? You mean the 100s of obvious teases on TV?

[@Nonyabizz01]

You think?

[@splash8429]

Ofc they r lol. Dom is a grest heel, Rhea is turning babyface and Dom joining liv and abandoning Rhea helps build that rhea vs liv feud immensely while also separating dom and rhea

[@miamimouse3167]

Cody overbooked matches are getting boring fast 😢 Jesus wwe

[@Nonyabizz01]

I agree 💯 he is not a good champion I called it a long time ago his reign would die fast I went out for a cigarette during the match Didn’t even care for it

[@splash8429]

Bro Styles vs Cody was clean. This one was a little overbooked which i get. The way they focused on getting knuckles out of logan paul, they could just give a straight up match

[@Dr_1212]

WWE.s blood money Saudi deal needs to end

[@nickcline4362]

When you own a multibillion dollar business you can decide that for yourself, until then youre just a random internet dork

[@Dr_1212]

@@nickcline4362 No you WWE fanfools that ignore decades of WWE bs are the dorks

[@eazy5353]

Aew minimum story great wrestling and WWE great story and ok wrestling 👍👍🏾

[@SophisticatedViking]

Love it JD

[@UmerAkhter16]

#OTS4Life

[@fromomelastocarcosa3575]

Some sound takes but his garbage takes about White and Gold have turned into garbage takes about Lyra who he associates with it. Wrong almost to the point of delusion. She's a fantastic performer, this was a very good match and he's just choosing to ignore her strengths because he has just made a decision about it.

[@JDfromNY]

You clearly didn’t fucking listen to a word I said

[@kjo2130]

I will never get the hype with Mid Morgan

[@lifelive2680]

Respectfully. U ruined this for me by putting the winners in ur thumb.

[@JDfromNY]

Randy Orton didn’t win

[@thebeardbeastx]

I'm loving the 5 matches and not having to fast forward through the boring stuff. Loving the old nxt fill to it. Been watching u from day one. OTS for life

[@awakenedbyyhuhassembly6015]

Gunther's win was kinda underwhelming

[@Jeff.fl0w]

Nia should be the Tribal the Queen 👸🏽

[@kazama6245]

sucks Damian will have to drop the title is Scotland. 😒👎

[@timechild1261]

Peacock is trash. Wwe should give it all to Netflix. Always problems and you see that stupid sad cat.

[@IndigoUchiha26]

JD you BODIED this review as always much respect

[@goldstandard842]

wwe is golden much better then aew

[@goldstandard842]

@DennisonLewis true and wwe will always be better as long as tk is head of creative

[@rickroberts7611]

Tony thought he could buy his way to the top..Cant buy ratings and cant buy attendance..Tf is a "Aew" anyway?

[@goldstandard842]

@@TheGinsuMasta wwe is the best in the world

[@antliveyabish9555]

Here u are on a wwe ple recap bringing up aew lol

[@goldstandard842]

@@antliveyabish9555 all empty seat wrestling needs a booker

[@tonyace4507]

Lol JD, I’m not apart of the crowd complaining about commercials. It’s not being cheap though paying 5 for peacock, when I have Netflix, amzon prime, paramount, Apple, hulu, ESPN+. It’s trying to save money in this terrible economy.

[@vileluca]

Just pirate it lol. I watch every ppv I want and haven't paid a dime

[@tonyace4507]

@@vileluca I use peacock for other things though. Or else I would lol

[@vileluca]

​@@tonyace4507fair !

[@davidjace7914]

Don't go to AEW it will end your career just look at all the former WWE stars that went there☠☠☠

[@waynejr.5579]

point is don't wanna see no dude ruins importance story between two ladies look at the bloodline story still on going know why have dudes telling story no women involved doing all the work point I'm making never ask see him waste time do this bs make it about themselves as usual don't care women supposed be the star women division not male division just saying gets on my nerves

[@BigDawgSportsEntertainment]

Because it wasn't going to be a prize at the end of the Tournament, nothing but a Golden Crown😂

[@nancycastro5613]

Excuse you Cody hasn’t made wrestlemania lame 😒 you don’t know what you’re talking about

[@President_Shin]

Nia has been impressive, Bayley should drop her the title at ss

[@Nonyabizz01]

Bayleys title run has already gone sour.. after all that buildup.. what a waste of

[@mrnicemam8523]

Cody Rhodes has truly been the MVP for wrestling. He is to wrestling what Muhammad Ali was for boxing.

[@fadethechannel]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@jamiek9780]

I like Cody but you gotta be careful saying stuff like that dude

[@vileluca]

Cody isn't even the MVP in his own company. That's clearly Roman.

[@getdown7799]

Bro what!!!!?? U tripping

[@angellucia1987]

What 😂😂😂😂

[@kazama6245]

Bro tone down the F-bombs!

[@JDfromNY]

No

[@carnage35]

Queen nia yeah

[@waynejr.5579]

Why have Dom in like go away match better no men involved can this go away i don't want no dude in women storylines or feuds

[@eren_88]

Cody desperately needs a actually fued although his matches are amazing we need something more than just meaningless matches which only have a build for 2-3 weeks, i'm beginning to lose interest in Cody's title regin at this point imagine having to wait until the rock comes back for this title regin to pick up

[@robertjorgensen8052]

The WWE just 2 decent matches that's about it at this event

[@garv04]

Because wwe focuses on storytelling

[@natashacutiepie6074]

Don't nobody want Becky in AEW. Stop letting a couple geeks online speak for a whole community. Just another excuse for you to bash the company.

[@rickroberts7611]

Aewful

[@JDfromNY]

Clearly you didn’t listen close enough. Literally said that the fans don’t want Becky in AEW but please continue to push the narrative I hate AEW when YOU DONT FUCKING LISTEN. You are exactly what I described tonight

[@marlonk1976]

So Orton is being book so poor at PPV. lost at rumble, chamber, mania, backlash and king of the ring.

[@kelseykjarsgaard5774]

No 1-1 losses clean or dirty cept Gunther pin

[@Anthony-in4ss]

Orton is going to turn heel, then they will send him to cody

[@joshuashamshak7927]

They were necessary losses tho. Especially Rumble, Chamber and King of the ring