Jealous Female Coworker Ruined My Life by Falsely Claiming I SA Her. After Proving My Innocence, ...

[@cherrypopscile3385]

I swear to god this country either dosen't care about victims or will literally take any lie that is told at face value, and there is basically no in-between. Like, most Special Victims unites have shockingly low rates of ever solving cases (or having them go anywhere) and then we have stuff like this

[@TheProkonover]

I dont know which country you live in. But this is happening everywhere in the Western World. Since the MeToo movement, women can lie as much as they want and get away with it, zero consecuences or repercussions.

[@nehcrum]

Identity politics. They care about victim _groups_ but not individual victims. And as a group, women are victims while men are perpetrators, and so they are more interested in protecting women, regardless of individual guilt, then they are about the old racist, sexist justice that used to be the norm in western society.

[@RequiemPoete]

Unfortunately, the vast majority of actual SA claims are she said/he said where all that can be proved is sexual contact occurred. The fact most victims are victimized by their partners compounds this, as it's hard to prove the validity of consent between 2 people who already had consenting encounters.

[@CG-yb6zj]

At this point, I'm convinced the tale the blatant fabrications on PURPOSE to further discredit real victims since their attackers are usually of higher places and make it 'easier' to sweep under the rug when allegations come out about them.

[@armaggedon390]

Authorities usually want to catch "a" culprit instead of "the" culprit and will go along with the easiest explanation.

[@matt3248]

In the first story they told the guy all that to stop him from taking them to court, doing so would win him a massive payday so they are trying to mess with his mind telling him he can't do anything.

[@shells500tutubo]

It's a fake story.

[@pejalaiaku6465]

​@@shells500tutuboUS Naval Academy midshipman charged with sexual assault

[@hotdogkid9015]

And this is another reason I will never believe SA accusations without proof

[@sliqyplayz8072]

I don’t care who you are, if your source is trust me bro I won’t believe you

[@rogueninja4719]

​@@sliqyplayz8072 Many cases have been brought up where it happened after #MeeToo became popular. Don't think i can give sources via links but if you want i could try to link it (if not, point to where you can find it). A few examples (With sources i CAN get): 1. A man from a Yale/Harvard Uni was accused of SA and expelled after what amounted to a Kangaroo court. He was found innocent (outside of that court) and was allowed to sue the school for what they did. 2. Another dude was accused of SA by 1-2 women and while he was found innocent, his reputation and self-esteem were basically down the gutter. 3. After a divorce Amber Heard Claimed her then-husband Johnny Depp was doing DV against her (including SA or as they put it, 'S***al Violence), this caused him to not only booted from Warner Bros but also many acting opportunities until he was able to prove that not only was he innocent, but it was HIM that was suffering.

[@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer]

Same Since the metoo movement being full of liars who went to social media instead of the police and the incident happened decades prior, I only believe facts and instantly assume she's a liar if she goes to social media to talk about it instead of going to the police

[@theknittinkitten2954]

And this is how a dude in my old town has SAed at least 4 children and one young adult. Without proof it's "he said, she said," so he gets to keep on going.

[@rogueninja4719]

My comment seems to have been deleted but I wrote something (just in case someone says otherwise) about cases of people who were accused and then turned out to be innocent. cases include a Yale student expelled after an accusation (at the time i forgot if it was between Yale or Harvard), a young man's reputation ruined by an accusation by at most 2 women and Johnny Depp/ Amber Heard.

[@aadityadutt1816]

I hope so we get an update of her arrest and even a case against the investigator

[@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer]

Or better, she's actually roped and OP ends up being the only one who saw the attacker being with her and he refuses to help her on principle

[@jonku]

@@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer dude, that’s low down dirty to say, better she was in an accident and was ended, rope is never acceptable no matter what

[@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer]

@@jonku except she lied about it and got away with it She may as well receive karma and get the scars to match with her lie

[@Frightmarelordofthenightmares]

​@@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayerWouldnt help her either

[@InkblotHyena]

And people ask why the military has such a high self-termination rate..

[@juanhaines7295]

This is why false r@pe allegations needs to be a punishable offense. As well as them serving the same amount of time if the man was found guilty.

[@Tuturial464]

I hope those military authorities get accused for the dumbest things. They are incompetent

[@RedNinja0070]

it's ironic, the women who have killed themselves over rape get no justice but this time vice versa

[@shells500tutubo]

@@RedNinja0070 Because it's a fake story.

[@sliqyplayz8072]

I know false accusations are bad but really is it this bad?Like she had literally no evidence, her story was flimsy with easily provable lies, and she had a motive to make false accusations because she directly benefited from it.And for some reason the people handling his case just seemed to have it out for him and break standard legal procedure

[@jamegumb7298]

​@@sliqyplayz8072 Depends on where. Where I live, any story a woman tells must be believable. Aka as long as it is not completely fantastical and false, it is believed. If I then as a man want to get out of punishment must be proven. I must prove a negative, that cannot be done. And in case of s intimidation, (he looked at me funny so he thought it!) I must prove a negative of what I was thinking (lost cause). Often a man will lose by default as this is a literal listen and believe law. So they will always try and settle for max time and money. In the military this is taken way further. You will get locked up except in rare cases. And they wonder why I refuse to be alone with any female or talk to them except strictly work related.

[@LordKasadoad]

@RedNinja0070 Honestly I think OP’s case was the military trying to compensate for those cases.

[@wodahexe8400]

Good to know society is trying to defend SA victims unlike in the past, but the fact that it is so quick to go the Guilty Before Innocent route that it resorts to confirmation bias in the "investigation"...

[@Tuturial464]

Like the me too movement

[@wodahexe8400]

@@Tuturial464 Yeah... the MeToo movement was a good way for actual assault victims to share their experiences and expose many predators who would have been protected by their status, but then bad people started taking advantage of the movement to commit one of the worst acts of slander against those who are innocent of the crime they were accused of and... we now have yet another example of why we can never have nice things.

[@shells500tutubo]

The reality STILL is that many cases are never brought p on charges because no matter how credible the victim is there isn't the "perfect" case to bring, and D.A.s don't like losing cases. In the military it is even worse, with perpetrators being promoted while victims are forced to resign, and it is not just women who get assaulted by men, and since the assaulters are often of a higher rank they get the advantage.

[@Endless_Productions]

That second story sounded like a never ending line of decisions that led to a slew of mental illnesses

[@landonpoland5092]

Fr real it did, it was also so so so confusing

[@connorsullivan2745]

@@landonpoland5092its a very simple story. OP’s partner broke boundaries and lied, so the relationship is over. There were a lot of unnecessary details, but they still weren’t confusing

[@landonpoland5092]

@@connorsullivan2745 maybe not to you, but all the extra details made it very confusing for me

[@emperorconstantinexipalaio4121]

Ofc OP’s mentally ill. OP isn’t even sure what OP is: man, woman, something else? Lmao

[@drifter139]

S1: never expect the police, civilian or military, to thoroughly investigate false SA claims. they will refuse to admit any wrongdoings on their part

[@aleksandarvil5718]

Story 1: *_“We Can't Expect The God To Do All The Work !!!”_* ~ Joshua Graham, *_*Fallout: New Vegas*_*

[@ARcinder]

"The truth is, the game was rigged from the start." -Benny

[@markfrost2307]

People telling him to "just move on" are actively protecting a false SA accusation!?!?!??!?!

[@angelamgillis82]

I'm ex military, and I have seen a lot of this in my time. This happens a lot, especially overseas. Luckily for me, everyone knows how I am. I was in a unit that if there were 250 males, only about 6 females. The guys will literally wonder if a female transfers in if she is pretty and single. It was ridiculous. But, that doesn't mean you can just accuse someone. I got called in for something similar. A incident happened and I got called in. As I said, I told them what I know. They knew to take my word because my biggest pet peeve is calling me a liar. And they know how I am. If you even tried to call me a liar, or say maybe you don't remember, we will have a problem.

[@leroysgamesandmore2226]

The accuser must be the daughter of someone high ranking

[@ianmoritzplatapino3684]

Story 1 as usual false accusations have no consequences dor the accuser. Hisnlife was destroyed and the consequences form this will be following him for the rest of his life. Damn inhope op can sue her. Story 2 its divorcing time

[@superiorrule34]

Don’t worry the liar sounds like the type of person who will ruin their life she’s piss off the wrong person or tell the wrong lie and then it’s over.

[@yourdagan]

Hope they all get sued.

[@jorijoestar4998]

s2- These two should never have married.

[@IzzyPR2010]

OP was a punk, they had issues on the wedding night, to the point that he considered calling the priest to get him not to send in the marriage papers. Then put up with this nonsense for months.

[@staceyearle2817]

This just shows that even in the military women aren't held accountable for their actions just like here in civilian life

[@rhaelfixer2584]

1st Story: OP should make allegation against the accusers like cheating, embezzling money, etc. To ruin her reputations.

[@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer]

Only problem is her female privilege will protect her, those accusations will be like water off a duck's back and the military would give her every resource possible to aid her defence in court

[@dikshithaariyawansa1299]

Wow anyone else listened to story 2 and feel more confused than OP.

[@connorsullivan2745]

Did OP seem confused? OP’s partner lied and crossed boundaries, so the relationship ended. That’s straightforward compared to all the other stories, even if it was meandering to get there

[@SALshaNoma]

Yes I'm confused. Op said they have an open relationship but says their wife is cheating while op is also sleeping with another person. So they're in an open relationship or they are both cheating.

[@connorsullivan2745]

@@SALshaNoma an open relationship means whatever the couple decides. Usually, being okay with your partner having sex outside of the relationship doesn’t mean you’re okay with them having other romantic affairs. It sounds like that’s what went on here. Regardless, is your partner isn’t comfortable with a specific person and you ignore them then that’s a betrayal of trust regardless of the nature of your relationship

[@SALshaNoma]

@@connorsullivan2745 sounds like shouldn’t have an open relationship.

[@vaseline69]

wow Antoinette O'Neill is impressive, and has great hair

[@StephaneTheard]

Then the military wonders why no wants to join

[@smorphous8928]

Story 1: I swear, everyone Owes Op an massive apology, and that woman needs to face consequences for her actions, she nearly ruined Ops life. She didn’t even get punished or fined for the fake claims, she just got off scot free. There should really be law that prohibits people accusing someone of SA without tangible proof and DNA testing.

[@jacearmor5274]

Tgis is why false accusations need harsher consequences.

[@joeystoney3678]

Story 1: hahaha that reminds me of when i worked for telus, and i had a call come in and i had a rude lady talking about an issue with her internet, but 1 minute into the call, the center had a fire drill, and during a fire alarm, is one of the only times were allowed to hang up on a customer, interrupt them, etc. So, when the alarm goes off, I interrupt her and say "I'm sorry ma'am you'll need to call back as the fire alarm is going off and I need to evac the building." her reply "WAIT! NO! YOU NEED TO HELP ME RIGHT NOW! I WAS ON HOLD FOREVER!" Me- "Ma'am, the building is on fire. Call back. CLICK*

[@Eman-San]

Believe all women eh? Equality eh? Stories like this show how easy an innocent person can be convicted.

[@donnamason938]

Sue the crap out of them op. Find an attorney outside of the military.

[@mankovitch1130]

bruh wtf was that, gonna keep an eyes and ear out for that story 1 update

[@SteffenF]

story 1: this is just normal because he is male.

[@shells500tutubo]

No, the truth is that it is the WOMEN who suffer after charges are brought AGAINST them for s peaking out against the abuse they receive. Many suicides have occured because of this.

[@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer]

​@@shells500tutubo If being "protected" by sacking the man, being given resources to defend herself, getting zero repercussions for lying is suffering Then what isn't suffering? The fact is, women have female privilege and men get nothing but the short end of the stick

[@NessaEllenesse]

A friend of mine had her life ruined by false accusations. She was raped by two men. The men claimed it was consensual. She was punished for sexual misconduct and her abusers got off scot free.

[@josephwilliams2406]

Story 1: I really hate how men are treated in situations like this. Especially since women aren't the only sexual assault victims. It really is s*** how OP'S only option is to let it slide, when this chick lied in tried to ruin his life. At least things got better for him, still lying about assault should be a serious crime

[@harrisondejoux8520]

This is when he puts in a request for a trial by court marital civvies get brought in with a perspective from outside.

[@Godzillafan78]

Honestly the first story is good enough to sue the entire military

[@jazzie-sanbelle99]

Story 2 move on and keep nc and one day those toxic people will come crying. Karma is no joke

[@jvbutalid8316]

Second story. "You were so focused on grieving for your mom that you lost interest in me. Of course I would cheat!" Uhhhhhh....wait, huh?

[@kanteannightmare]

If they're not sleeping with you they're doing it someone else... Also that's not loop holing that's moving the goalposts. Calling a dog a cat doesn't make it a dog. Cheating is cheating.

[@Vipershadow1]

This whole story is ridiculous and it’s sad that considering how bad things are these days in America I wouldn’t be surprised if this actually did happen even if the story itself might be fake.

[@Walhor]

They really need to make servere punishments for false SA accusations. The original punishment + 10 years and full reimbursement of finacial loss.

[@yoohimi]

The last one sounded confused.

[@connorsullivan2745]

It’s fine if it confused you, but it’s simple and doesn’t reflect confusion from OP. Their partner crossed boundaries and lied, so the relationship ended. There’s lots of other details about their life but that’s the whole post.

[@es_three232]

The military is infamous for letting fake SA accusations ruin their services members lives. This literally happened to me, a girl accused a friend of mine & I of SA & even though everyone who was at the party (& I never even slept with her), I got kicked out and my CO told me at Capt Mass that he wouldve given me a dishonorable if he couldve but I was let go for "administrative" reasons. I was 6 months from my contract being up & I 100% believe it was because I refused to reenlist. I fell into a deep depression that I still have to deal with medication. I was diagnosed with Major depressive disorder & PTSD because of it but the worst part was I lost my GI Bill. The only reason I enlisted to begin with. Those accusations ruined my life & the girl just moved on with her life like nothing happened. May God forgive me but I hope she burns in hell for what she did to me. She lied but I paid for it.

[@DeltaY1]

bro this sugar cane build is infuriating like how do you struggle so much crouching

[@connorsullivan2745]

To the people somehow getting confused by the second story, OP’s partner lied and crossed boundaries with a fwb so the relationship ended. It’s meandering but it’s far simpler a plot than the first story

[@jlovenotzri]

The second story doesnt justify the injustice of the first

[@KarmaTube5]

I had a similar issue. Show proof of text, but me and like 3 other guys “didn’t have enough evidence” to prove she was a liar, but it was clear that the person we were talking to was on our side. He said she had multiple complaints where men accused her of trying to get with them. She would say they tried to get with her, but found it suspicious that all of us said the same thing. That we weren’t interested in her and she’d follow us places and got upset that we weren’t into her.

[@wednesdayschildfullofwoe]

Interesting..... This is the 1st military SA story I've ever heard where the woman wasn't made to feel like complete crap for being an actual victim. And the man was able to carry on like nothing. I see 1 thing hasn't seemed to change much...no care in thorough investigating.. The military has their own set of rules/laws....enter with caution!

[@shells500tutubo]

It;s true. It is the woman who gets the shit end of the stick.

[@southernflight5078]

The investigation team was probably mainly, if not all, women. You'll see major, life ruining bias if the team isn't close to 50-50 split of men to women.

[@wednesdayschildfullofwoe]

@@southernflight5078 A military investigation team with the majority being women?? 🤣 I would believe the story is fake before believing that!

[@wednesdayschildfullofwoe]

@@southernflight5078 I would first believe this story to be fake before EVER believing a that military investigation team was primarily made up of women.

[@wednesdayschildfullofwoe]

@@southernflight5078 Women in the majority, in a military investigation? I would first believe this story was fake before believing that

[@autumnnz1]

God I hope there is an update for s1

[@theblackantonio]

We need an update real bad

[@pejalaiaku6465]

US Naval Academy midshipman charged with sexual assault​@@theblackantonio

[@sweeety969]

God the text speed is so slow that even playing it at X2 speed it still feels slow af.

[@ryangooseling]

It sux that the military has overcorrected but as a civilian who suffered military justice (not my hubs) it used to be that men in uniform were untouchable. I'm glad op has found the justice i never will. I hope he has a long happy career and life. Maybe someday the military will be more worried with justice than optics or rank.

[@aadityadutt1816]

Hey secretvoices will he give us an update

[@shadowkage1715]

nah fuck this all these story of fake alagation is just making me feel like getting a recorder when am older and taking pictures everywhere this is stupid

[@AlwaysTehFool]

Story 2 op is so damn pathetic

[@jazzie-sanbelle99]

Nta sometimes its better to wait for bad MOJO to come back and get all of those toxic characters back

[@dym6464]

What is FTM??

[@zanetmh]

According to google female-to-male

[@avelazquez6502]

Ftm is when a woman transgression into a man

[@rickrollrizal]

A delusion

[@professorrosenstock5026]

​@@rickrollrizalLike yours that your mom loves you.

[@rickrollrizal]

@@professorrosenstock5026 my mom is still a kickass police sarge. Defiantly one of the boys who's thankful she wasn't told by anyone she had to transition as a man just because she's a tomboy

[@matthewbrowatzke6024]

Walk out and go AWOL

[@lindah3803]

That is absolutely stupid advice.

[@rickrollrizal]

​​@@lindah3803i second that, even dangerous to do

[@WardenSpectreCommander]

He'd get nailed to the wall if he pulled that stunt.

[@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer]

What smooth-brained advice OP will get in bigger trouble and going AWOL could be seen as a admission of guilt by the corrupt investigators

[@ignacioaguirre8137]

First story is so obviously fake y’all

[@user-ns8th6sj2j]

The sick thing is the laws and rules that apply to civilians are not like the military ones, so in court they had a functioning legal system but thought no no For the military, we have to completely reinvent the wheel

[@Emil_LLscpfan]

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