Jedi Survivor - My Full Review [SPOILERS]

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[@fatnakedjimmyneutron]

Ive said it before and ill say it again. Ezra and Kanan pushed a walker on top of Darth Vader. Everyone was fine with that, but when Cere a Jedi master throws some burning books on him and gets 1 lucky hit everyone loses their minds. Vader is not invincible. He may be our favorite character but every once in awhile its nice to see Vader humanized as sort of a reminder that he never became all powerful.

[@TehThxsis]

Truuuuuuuu

[@sensualsquelch]

Yeah lol, if it were Cal vs Vader and it went the exact same way people would hardly care as much lmao, pretty telling.

[@JaePharos]

Talk that talk!

[@jimoroll]

You're right but i think in the second phase he should've annihilated Cere because of his rage and defeated her in combat, not by outsmarting her. All in all one of only a few light problems with the game i personally have, still 9.5/10 for me.

[@elijahthompson7866]

Maybe but Vader Wasn't Hurt at all!! So its not really the same comparison

[@cynicalstring5614]

The thing with bode is I had a strong feeling that He was going to be a villain, What I didn't expect was him being a Jedi, My jaw literally hit the floor at that part

[@1001History]

I said to my partner almost immediately after Bode was first revealed "I hope he doesn't turn on us, he seems cool." 😂 But yeh did not expect the jedi thing.

[@TheOldirishfan3130]

Yeah I thought he was going to betray me in the beginning but didn't so I emotionally let my guard down with him so when he did betray me in actually hurt because I legit started trusting him

[@goofysmp]

Me too. As soon as he was getting so much screen time about his daughter I was thinking he’s going to betray Cal. Never expected him to use the force though, that caught me so off guard

[@jacksonashworth150]

Literally same reaction

[@thomasfryer5706]

@@1001History I literally said the exact same thing to my friend a few minutes after meeting Bode

[@J2DHERN]

One of the things I LOVE about Cal Kestis. When ever he kills someone like cutscene wise. He NEVER does it out of hate. He gives them EVERY opportunity to stop but when he knows they wont he puts them down respectfully. He truly is like a samari full of honor

[@calclips]

Or a true jedi?

[@J2DHERN]

@@calclips Based of samari you could say the same about mando being a true MANDOLARION but hes basically a cowboy

[@calclips]

@@J2DHERN yeah but in this sense just say Jedi then. Just because they are based off of it doesn’t mean you have to continually consider them to be samurai

[@J2DHERN]

@@calclips Nah im good they're treated him like a wandering samari so

[@calclips]

@@J2DHERN …not.. at all 💀💀

[@abnerchao568]

Vader's health bar is actually his patience meter. Once you have that perspective, the battle is perfect

[@cobybitman261]

Great comment

[@zangetsuee]

@@cobybitman261 its stolen from someone's comment on the stream video where the comment said " Vader dosent have a health bar, He has a Patience meter" XD

[@MenrvaS]

I see his health bar as a hourglass. Vader got angrier and angrier as time passed while Cere was stalling him more and more to make time for her friends and people. Vader wasn't serious before 50% of the bar and being caught on fire, but Cere was already exhausted in the cutscene. It was a subtle storytelling that Vader wasn't even trying as much as Cere did.

[@djw3512]

@@MenrvaSCere wasn’t exhausted. She was getting tired yeah, but not exhausted. If she was exhausted, she wouldn’t have lasted as long as she did against a serious Vader OR have gotten a hit on his chest plate, blast him against a wall, and nearly stab him

[@furious79]

This would make sense if he didn't look like he was barely alive at the end of the fight. I think they just wanted to give Cere a proper respectful death, but in the scope of the larger universe it didn't make sense because she should not have been able to inflict that much damage on Vader.

[@Cvstone1]

Two things about the Vader fight: 1) Vader himself noted she was stronger, but Cere corrected him saying she had no fear, which allowed her to fully embrace the light side and didn’t allow Vader to use fear against her. I also think he mailed it in until the bookshelf got dropped on him 2) You’ve read the Vader comics, Vader always won, but it wasn’t always pretty. Momin, Maul (legends), Cyclo, and others pushed Vader to the brink. Vader was always tactical and smart as much as he was powerful, so him killing Cere when she got overconfident makes sense in a way. Just my opinion though

[@jakealcock5905]

Yes I agree, I think its quite a big misconception that Vader is immortal and untouchable. As you mentioned, in the Vader comics he really struggled against some of his opponents. Like that first Master he fought (forgot his name + I know Vader was just getting used to his suit but still) who he only beat because he played on his humanity and killed those civilians. And as you said when A jedi lets go of there fear they go god mode.

[@Chummuncher]

It's also a video game and we already had the scene where he dominates and it is more of a chase than a fight, it gives the player more of a progression feeling. Plus who doesn't want to fight Darth Vader

[@MatthewOlney]

I loved that fight!

[@squashmallow2006]

More often than that, Vader is a tank. His whole deal is that he leaves himself very open to damage. Given how he literally just walks through all kinds of hazards more often than once, it's his greatest advantage. Tank through hazards, feel pain, pain fuels his rage, and the rage makes him stronger in the Dark Side. He NEEDS the pain. He's a masochist, no joke.

[@Johten]

THISSSSSS The Vader Comics reminds you he isn't truly invincible.

[@private-gustav]

Everytime Marrin was in a situation with Bode after his betrayal, especially when he choked her I started to flip.😅 That game had me scared for her for real.😂

[@jerkopatrik]

Bro the hatred I felt towards Bode when he started choking Merrin I honestly wished the worst upon him lol. Do not fucking touch Merrin

[@daven9536]

I was so scared they were going to sacrifice her for cheap tragedy points ... loved the way everything turned out.

[@countluke2334]

I very much like the way this is going with Merrin and Cal. I feel this hasn't been addressed enough yet by many KZbinrs and fans in general, but for Cal it is a huge step abandoning the no-attachment rule. Which IMO is the single largest mistake of the while Jedi philosophy and ultimately their downfall. We see Cal falling in love with Merrin and embracing it, and now they are likely kind of parents to Kata, because that responsibility fell on them after they killed her dad. Which is an awkward and potentially interesting premise, but I digress.

[@zackjl2777]

@@jerkopatrik relax😂😂

[@private-gustav]

@@countluke2334 deffinately awwkard alraight😁

[@jonwillison2105]

Completely Disagree with you on the Vader fight, he under-estimated Cere later in the fight which is Anakin/Vader's flaw and in return it shows how much Cere has grown into a Jedi Master, while also showing that even Vader can bleed, it's also a very badass fight especially when he's on fire with the music and everything. A Fantastic, yet tragic end for Cere, she went out like a total badass.

[@seth8580]

Yeah, I mean cere literally has a unique ability as far as I know. I can’t think of anyone else making a full on shield with the force and Jedi who have these unique abilities tend to be the most powerful.

[@Shishakind86]

Cere is not a mere Jedi Knight but a Master. I'd expect any Jedi Master to give Vader a run for his money at least to some extent.

[@jonwillison2105]

@@Shishakind86 totally agree, there’s multiple instances where he’s struggled with Jedi Masters so this is no different

[@jonwillison2105]

@@seth8580 oh yeah definitely agree like Bastila’s Battle Meditation and she was very powerful.

[@mark_thurwanger]

@@Shishakind86 Many, many Jedi Masters were destroyed by him without much effort, so this is actually incorrect. Simply being a master doesn’t make it so.

[@CoffeeBrainzz]

The sad part about Ceres death is that I don’t actually think Cal made it back in time to catch her…. I think instead what he was witnessing was her last Force Echo (Cals main special ability) The way they did the cinematics were so beautiful! 💯🥹

[@Aspenglow_]

💯

[@JCShadow0202]

You’ve changed that scene for me. Ty 🥲

[@dr.boring7022]

I agree. Plus, if Cal made it back in time, Vader would have turned around and killed him too

[@Andrew-ct5we]

In the campfire cutscene as soon as Bode said he had to go record a bedtime message for his daughter I knew he would betray them - first time in the entire game he mentions something like that. Totally screamed "I'm going to send a message to the Empire"

[@maverico2111]

I had a weird feeling as soon after you rescue zee he was acting sus

[@breguera77]

I was waiting for the star destroyers to show up when cal and merrin were talking after Bode left

[@shawngaines1117]

No first time you meet him and he says I made the cut. He smiles and then Immediately looks as though he already regrets his actions lol that quick turn from a smile to a straight face was a dead giveaway in the beginning of the game when they first introduced him

[@lucaleone4331]

TBH I was a little disappointed that Bodes betrayel was EXACTLY how it seemed. Like he had a daughter he wanted to protect, and he betrayed Cal to take her to safety. I was hoping itd be a further twist like his daughter wasnt young anymore. She was actually an adult and serving in the ISB, Bode was just kinda delusional she was still his little girl. And he snuck into the ISB area to "save" her from the empire and take her with him, and she was like a full blown agent. (I started to think this at a part where Bode said she liked Tech, and later she had an exam. So i was like, "an ISB exam to graduate?!")

[@Foxster_13]

Yeah, I had a bit of an odd feeling about Bode from the start, but the biggest twist was him being a former Jedi.

[@jacobcenter7374]

Honestly outside of gameplay Vader only took one hit and got force pushed. I can absolutely buy that as him playing with his food a bit too much, and the moment he was on the back foot he just killed her

[@mywife5307]

Literally facts.

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

mean while in force unleashed , vader got wrecked

[@bridgerlee7478]

@@creatorsfreedom6734 Yeah Vader didn't stand a chance

[@unknownvoid2321]

@@creatorsfreedom6734 dawg star killer was something else 😭

[@columlee6714]

@@creatorsfreedom6734 starkiller could solo the entire franchise no doubt about that.

[@solvemproblerstudios5889]

The Vader fight was fine Imo. Cere was now likely on par with someone like Quinlan Vos or Ahsoka; very strong, and Vader underestimated that, and as soon as he realized she could put him in danger, he ended it.

[@djw3512]

I wouldn’t say he ended it right as he realized that. He realized that only halfway through the fight. Cere still went on to get a hit on his chest plate, blast him against a wall, and nearly stab him. So I would definitely put Cere above Ahsoka, as the most she did was get a hit on Vader who only had a second to react

[@IorekBear92]

​@djw3512 but you forget Anakin trained Ahsoka, he didn't train Cere. I would say they're nearly pretty even but the style and tactics, use of the force and analysis on a combat situation are very different between Cere and Ahsoka.

[@jeremydaoud6792]

At first i knew bode was sketchy but then he was so nice to cal giving him a blaster and talking about his daughter, i was like no way hell be evil now and then the twist really got me

[@seth8580]

Yeah people have been saying it was really obvious but honestly I was blindsided. I was really enjoying the bromance thing they had going on until he killed Cordova

[@marslol6938]

And killed by the very blaster he gave him

[@infinitedeath1384]

​@@marslol6938I thought that was poetic.

[@benjip7414]

I think Ceres fight with Vader makes sense for the most part. Vader is known for toying with his food because he enjoys the fear he instills in people. He also said in fallen order that she would make an excellent inquisitor so perhaps he went into the fight with the plan to turn her to the dark side. Vader has also gotten his ass kicked on multiple occasions mostly from underestimating his opponent. For example, in the comics the dark woman surprised Vader by how strong she was. She almost killed him but then he just got pissed off and destroyed her.

[@CojaGamez]

I like SW theory but man does he fanboy over Vader way too much. He is strong, yes but he isnt an unstoppable god. A jedi master who is calm and not fearful can definitly give Vader a run for his money even if they dont win

[@lefay7637]

@@CojaGamez also remember a scene, in the Darth Vader comic no less, of Jedi Master Kirak Infil'a beating Vader in their first duel. The only reason Vader wins and kills Infil'a the next time is because he takes full advantage of the Jedi's compassion

[@willallclasses8585]

So happy I’m not alone here. The bromance with Anakin/Vader is strong with this one. You can’t have every Vader scene be, Vader walks into room with 1000 enemies, Vader force chokes them all, leaves room. Also Anakin had how many clone troopers blasting away at his side, along with surprise, along with most of the true masters gone from the temple, either dead or fighting in the wars. Meaning Anakin took out Old masters at best, Padawans and Younglings. Hardly an awesome or heroic victory.

[@peetsaman8889]

You’re all shills. Vader annihilated HUNDREDS of Jedi MASTERS in ONE NIGHT at the temple, including Cyndrellic master of temple defense, Shaak Tii of Kamino defense, and countless others. The few who gave him a run for his money were either already exceptionally powerful or caught Vader in a moment of weakness. Don’t use your blind love of something to ignore what is repeatedly told and shown to you.

[@Solstare]

@@CojaGamez I’ve legit been commenting the exact same thing as you. His over the top fandom is cringe and annoying. The badass part about Vader is he fights extremely capable opponents who are also strong, get his ass whooped but sims at the last second, overcoming defeat and getting stronger with each fight and kill. Cere was legit the Jedi master rebuilding the Jedi archives and order, and she was the master of the inquisitor who became the 2nd sister for Christ sake. She’s not a nobody

[@clementl.9566]

Merrin and Cal relationship was so well executed. I doubt I have ever seen a better love story in a video game. I cannot wait to see both of them in a movie even though I am also afraid Disney would mess it up once again. Moreover, we can only imagine how powerful their child would be if they eventually have one. I mean, this potential child could at his prime even rival the emperor. 😱😱

[@matthewwest7906]

Imagine there kid has Force and Dathomir magic

[@SomeJustice19k]

Clearly you never played The Last of Us 2.....🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@CordeliaWagner]

People don't have kids anymore. How many players are interested in a couple that breeds?

[@Gravitino100]

@No Name I think you're forgetting that not everything has to be grounded in reality. If they want to give them a kid, they can and no matter how much people whine it won't change anything.

[@SomeJustice19k]

@The Stranger do I really have to explain it to you?

[@Jakecules]

Vader vs Cere was fantastic. She was a fully fledged Jedi master this time around and Vader still was toying with her until the bookshelf fell. At that point you could tell he wasn’t messing around anymore

[@BunkistheBold]

I personally think that the fight with vader was really cool. It felt right for the story of these games that Cere would have an incredible last stand almost as a symbol of the Jedi and what they were once capable of, ripping gunships out of the sky, defending the hangar and only being killed by the most powerful thing the empire had. Vader is a trump card to neutralize an otherwise unstoppable force. Granted, I personally find the canon version of Vader much more interesting anyway. By this, I mean as he was shown in his standalone comic and in Kenobi. He's still immensely powerful but he's been neutered in his physical capability and in the force by his own choices, almost as if Palpatine planned for it. Obviously any opinion is valid, everyone is going to see these characters a little bit differently, but for me, this final fight as Cere, still unquestionably losing but putting a little twinge of fear into the monster that destroyed everything she loved felt incredible and gave her a wonderful send off.

[@dmarcheesy4068]

I agree with this 100 percent, theory trippin a little bit. Vader is my favorite character but he can’t always be this unstoppable force. Everyone has a weakness and his was underestimating his opponent in this scenario. The same happened in kenobi.

[@demetriuspicklewonklewingw6443]

@@dmarcheesy4068 Theory is not tripping he knows the most about starwars than anybody and he understands what vader is and how people under estimate him

[@jarrodedson5441]

​@demetrius picklewonkle wingwang the 6th this is the same guy who said he didn't like andor because it had bricks and nails in it and star wars doesn't have that yet the buildings on Naboo are made of bricks and the base on Yavin 4 are made of bricks and reys staff has nails in it holding it together....oh and same guy who said I honestly thought Disney had a layed out plan for the sequel trilogy.....pffftt what in his mind made him think that?

[@demetriuspicklewonklewingw6443]

@@jarrodedson5441 well the spent 4 billion dollars on something you would think they’d have a plan plus he was saying the show didn’t feel very starwars it didn’t have to do with just bricks and nails

[@nwing07__]

@@demetriuspicklewonklewingw6443No he does not, lmaooo stop worshipping him. There's thousands of of SW fans who are just as much if not *more* knowledgeable about star wars than him. The difference is that he has an audience. A very wide audience reach which is exceptional. But don't think that makes him any more special than anyone else.

[@spike-rf2dc]

It was a story about family, loss, love, and hope. Survivor was a quintessential star wars story. This trilogy is about Cal's personal journey, not anything else. Not the galaxy, not Dagan, not Tannelor. It's about how two people who start in the same place of goodness respond to oppression and persecution in search of a better life. How attachment and fear can lead to anger, hate, and the dark side. This whole story can be boiled down to Cal's fight against his darkness when faced with who he could have been. Cere sacrificing herself so the others can escape was an incredible moment. I loved how it tied into the hidden path. How the rebellion wasn't built overnight and that the fight never stopped for some. Getting the rebellion to where it was in Ep 4 took a lot of sacrifice. It all gives those moments more weight. A really brilliant story that fits perfectly with what George established. Cal having a padawan is an awesome development. She's about the same age as Luke. Don't get your mind set into what you think star wars is and get upset when I doesn't meet that, just enjoy the ride.

[@TheLeftCulprit]

Absolutely agree. Bode's mindset and motivation was the only thing I wanted flushed out more. Dagan maybe died in a slightly lackluster way. Rayvis turned out to be an awesome villain and fight, his death scene was arguably better than Dagan.

[@SilverPh3nix]

Could not have said it better myself

[@Shadowlord45]

Fallen order story was better just sayin

[@MrRagerJG]

I feel like the Vader fight was actually sort of cool. I feel the reason that Cere fought so well is because she said that she has removed all the fear of Vader inside of her. Every time we see someone interact with Vader they always feel the fear and the cold when he approaches, but this time Cere wasn't afraid and was ready. I still think she probably shouldn't have done as much damage to Vader that she did, but it might have simply been a shock to Vader that someone wasn't afraid of him.

[@azariahgaming3254]

Most of the damage done to Vader was because the burning bookshelf to be fair

[@darylsdesigns6679]

I’m not gonna lie. Even though I knew that Cere was gonna die at Vader’s hand, her death still broke me. The moment she said Trilla’s name with her last breath, my tears wouldn’t stop

[@unseen23221]

Cere would have been destroyed by Dooku let alone Vader. Vader has been severely nerfed throughout the years

[@Jxckk0]

Spot on. It’s just like with Kenobi; In their initial encounter, he’s terrified and conflicted to face him and suffers the consequences. But in their final confrontation he removes all the fear/doubt and look at how that turns out…

[@jacoblindsey292]

@@unseen23221 how is dooku relevant at all? Anakin beat dooku, not Vader.

[@luciusoptimus7888]

What i loved about Jedi Survivor is that it took a detour from the more grand events of the galaxy, then it morphed into a deeply personal story for Cal. Up until this point he's been all about fighting the empire, but the events of the game bring things back down to ground level and Cal faces his own inner darkness and it nearly breaks him.

[@ryandepp7640]

Cere was a Jedi Master who had fully embraced the light side and let go of her fear, which takes a lot of power away from a Sith. It makes sense she did so well in her fight against Vader

[@EalainEP]

I disagree with your stance on the darth vader fight. Vader a lot of the time gets put through the ringer in fights with higher caliber jedi which cere now is after winning her years long struggle with the dark side. It's not even like his damaged state was due to her just being far more powerful, he just took one bad hit

[@zaksursw4054]

I love people like you

[@goldenghost2001]

Hes just a vader simp, its mad annoying

[@EalainEP]

@@goldenghost2001 it seems like he's super biased in a lot of very specific things

[@goldenghost2001]

@@EalainEP biased and arrogant

[@zaksursw4054]

@@goldenghost2001 he’s arrogant like sith

[@RampidWarthogStudios]

I don’t get why people say “that’s not possible” when the story is literally telling you it is. Cere is obviously a cut above the rest. Even Vader complemented her in Fallen Order. And the fact that he’s hunting her supports the fact that she’s a threat. Otherwise they would’ve sent inquisitors… so that criticism kinda bugged me Otherwise I agree with everything else. Wish they didn’t sideline Reyvis and Dagan. But Bode was a great twist. Overall this game was a treat.

[@kaitosevski3881]

Seriously. Some of the stuff Cere pulled off while defending the temple put her on the same level as someone like Dooku. It's not surprising that she gave Vader a good fight

[@infinitedeath1384]

​​​@@kaitosevski3881Yeah her pulling down the ceiling on those at st walkers reminded me of count dooku in attack of the clones. You know, when he pulls the ceiling down on Yoda, and Yoda easily stops it.

[@stephenmarshall3771]

Dagen Gera really was killed off too early, he was such a cool and interesting character in my opinion. He really should have been the final boss fight on Tanalorr. When it was confirmed in game that we killed Dagen I got genuinely upset

[@carwynwilliams7398]

Nah you’d already fought him twice at that point and if Dagan had lived it would take away from Bode’s arc

[@linkgobrrr3358]

I really thought they were setting up dagan’s redemption. Especially with all of Khri’s entries about her believing the good in him. I expected to eventually align goals and find that the empire or Nihil pirates had already found tannalor and there would be a bigger bad guy waiting there.

[@rosdos100]

@@linkgobrrr3358 Same. I figured there'd be something we didn't see coming.

[@thebranman2284]

Yeah maybe the story should have been reworked where Bode was actually working for Dagan under Rayvis and betrayed Cal and company for the map to Tanalor. You have fight Rayvis then tract down Bode and then finally end up on Tanalor to fight Dagan.

[@carwynwilliams7398]

@@thebranman2284 that’s would be worse than what we got

[@rudebatman602]

Cere is definitely not "nothing" compared to vader. You can see how much she's grown and there is a lot we havent seen. She is severely underestimated

[@breezy.14]

Vader should've destroyed her

[@rudebatman602]

@@breezy.14 vader is not invincible

[@breezy.14]

@@rudebatman602 he would wipe the floor with cere

[@rudebatman602]

@@breezy.14 you wish

[@godofwar642]

@@razzy1448Vader fans are insufferable

[@theonlysaj]

Being at the playthroughs was too fun. Down the stretch we were literally damn near at the exact same point until the final boss. Need more games like this, imagine a boba one man

[@Major98]

I hope Boba is hunting Cal in the third game. Definitely feels like their gonna have some future interactions

[@cvig1075]

we need a boba one

[@landonbutler93]

A bounty Hunter sequel would be sick

[@optimusghost]

Vader was confident that he could keep Cere in place at all times, but when she hurled the files at him, it damaged his armor. It is also the point that even if you are a pro sometimes someone can surprise you and put you in trouble and there experience is shown, when Vader reacts quickly and evades the attack and fatally wounds her.

[@usurperzo]

Yeah anyone who has a problem with this doesn’t understand the character of Vader. Even dating back to the Dark horse comics in legends, the same thing would happen. The comic run “Star wars : Purge” literally has Vader getting messed up by each Jedi he hunts down, even his mask gets broken.

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

@@usurperzo mhm. tell me more about these lies :) links to these comic books or youre a degen who lies. he got messed up but by pretty powerful jedi and opponents. CERE IS NOT POWERFUL, cal is much more powerful than her

[@justuscellz]

@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it bro said cal is more powerful the cere 🤣 no buddy … you only see cal start to reach her level at the end of the game where he’s chasing bode and ripping the doors off like she was doing earlier with the dark side , you play cere and they show the power difference when she one shots everyone and is pulling down ships … by down playing cere your down playing cal .

[@phaex2288]

@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it CAL IS MORE POWERFUL THAN CERE? LMAO OK

[@iiiiiillllliiiii-iilll]

​@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it bet if theory didn't say this you'd have said nothing about her

[@SeeJaynePlay]

Cal and Merrin romance was so unexpected for me. After reading Battle Scars I though my hopes of that storyline were destroyed. I think I made an audible squeal on that first kiss, lol.

[@jimoroll]

@♜𝐏𝐢𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 StarWarsTheory Hahahaahahaha

[@marvelgamerz892]

Sorry but how was it unexpected? The first game kept showing there was something for them

[@GodWorksOut]

Yeah I saw it in the first game for sure.

[@infinitedeath1384]

​​@@marvelgamerz892 had full expectation for it after the camp scene during the storm on jedha. She literally went to sleep leaning on him, and if that doesn't give off romantic vibes then idk what does.

[@douvaman]

i was also bothered with the vader fight, but! keep in mind Cere knew that one day she would face him again, and had access to the archives, five years have passed and this whole time she was training just for vader. she knew his weakness she knew his moves, she knew that he would underestimate her. if you take all that under consideration it makes the pill easier to swallow

[@TheGhost-jn6ub]

Or like someone said in the comments: "Think of Darth Vader's health bar as his patience" that should solve the dispute 😂

[@douvaman]

@@TheGhost-jn6ub yeah that’s better😂😛 the issue was that he was stumbling in the end

[@TheGhost-jn6ub]

@@douvaman Yeah if only they removed that part

[@spoktv3343]

I think in the fight against Vader, the first phase would have looked exactly the same as in the current game. But in the second phase he doesn't play with you anymore, you're not supposed to be able to win, because he throws everything at you and hits so hard that even if you parry the blow your stance is still broken. This is supposed to give you a kind of hopelessness as a player, and shows how inferior Cere is compared to Vader. Edit: By the way, this is just my thought how I would like the boss fight more. I'm aware that it doesn't happen that way.

[@EalainEP]

We see that though, he stops blocking her lightsaber and just holds it with the force

[@spoktv3343]

@@EalainEP yes, he blocks her blow with the Force, but still gets hit on the head. What I mean is that in the second phase you can't really hurt him anymore. He's supposed to look like a force of nature again, like in Jedi Fall Order, that most Jedi can't fight against without losing.

[@tylerjames9768]

​@spoktv I think they were trying to show how strong cere was not how strong vader is

[@LDNT14]

@@tylerjames9768 he was toying with her so no, thats not the point.

[@whateverhappenshappens.5525]

Okay so obviously Vader would destroy cere we know how Vader is redeemed but Vader has had fights where he is broken down physically and still pulls through I think it shows how bada$$ Vader is if Vader came in and cut down cere with ease how lame would that be it’s literally just a cutscene of Vader killing a jedi wow haven’t seen that ever 😂

[@rawleigh729]

9/10 loved the story for cal and improved on everything fallen order did

[@jamariojackson4289]

The Cal embrace his darkness part is my fav part of the game, since the game was announced I had a theory that he would eventually use dark side powers. I love it hope they embrace that aspect of him even more. We’re done with clean cut Jedi for rn, let us get more dark side powers and dark side lore etc. Would be so sick if he goes to a Sith planet next game.

[@spawn9129]

Moraband(Korriban) would be sick

[@jamariojackson4289]

@human It’s not canon that you can’t use darkside powers without going fully dark ? Jedi have use force choke and TCW, RoTJ, and other media. Rey even used lightening in TRoS. I get what you mean but I don’t think that’s the case with canon. If so I’d think every Jedi who’s every even had a dark thought would switch sides, and that isn’t the case.

[@jamariojackson4289]

@human I get what you’re saying for sure. But what I’m saying is in game (in actual cutscenes not user generated gameplay) Cal has used the darkside in almost every combat scene he was in, and he literally sparred no one. He even did most of the killings by beheading (which is the least desirable way to kill for a Jedi). I don’t think Cal is going to fully embrace the darkness at this point. But the fact that he can use dark abilities and maneuvers, and for the most part remain on the “good” side is pretty interesting. I mean also though his story is far from over, so we don’t know what will happen. We just have to wait and see what they choose to do with Cal next.

[@jamariojackson4289]

@human I don’t care about the great Jedi, I’m not gonna say hate… but it’s annoying when fanboys bring it up. And I get what you mean, but I trust the creators of Cal and the Mantis crew they’ve done good so far.

[@Hickory_Dickory_Cock]

I really hope he turns to the dark side at some part in the series but still fights the empire

[@TryHardTot]

I loved the Cere part personally, going through and killing all the troopers effortlessly was amazing, felt godlike, and the Vader fight only took me 3 tries on GM. I was so excited getting caught up in my sting of parry's and dodges that when I finally got the cutscene I assumed I had won... just for the camera to pan out and reveal that she had missed whereas he had hit her dead center. it felt like watching revenge of the sith for the first or second time where you know the outcome but you get so caught up in the narrative that you forget the true underlying story of the rise and fall of Skywalker. That and I love the feel and effectiveness of the enraged slow, that room that you were in that you highlighted in this video I activated it then just pulled both triggers, pulled everyone in and went to town. It was so satisfying, for that moment at least... but when it came time to fight Bode on Grand Master I rarely got a chance to use it once, was really sad to go from fallen order where your slow is based on your force meter to this where its a charged super move that you get once per boss fight... annoying. needless to say I finished my run on stream as well taking around 32 hours while also going for every side quest I could leading up to the climactic part on Jedha, ultimately GOTY for me💜

[@Bendu678]

i got 57 hours on 100 percent haha

[@IorekBear92]

I thoroughly enjoyed this game too. Though, I take too much time exploring and re-exploring trying to get as much as I can before new abilities open new areas, I take lots of screenshots and enjoy lots of content so it's not beyond me to take at least an extra 3rd of the time on top to complete a solo rpg game like this. It's an adventure though and I think the gameplay is very good. Some aspects of the story.. well, different people are going to like or dislike them accordingly, not all of it I liked, but it's out of our hands anyway. I wouldn't say though that aspect meant I didn't enjoy the game, because I did, thoroughly. The main story arc is almost like an extra in a game like this for me, some of the time.

[@liberationpocket7950]

I'm glad you touched on the dodging mechanics of this game. Vader and Bode killed me so many times just because I was mid combo straight into their unblockable moves. The craziest glitch I encountered was actually when I was playing Cere, the stormtroopers were invincible and no matter what I did, their health wouldn't go down lmao

[@joshreid1006]

That’s because you need dual sabres to cancel out mid animation.. in the Cere fight you were supposed to prioritize just hitting him with single shots.

[@IBeJaMz]

The blaster stance can block every attack btw you jus shoot as they about to attack

[@sincerelyjayb4302]

So glad you spoke about the parry mechanic because I know I wasn’t tripping. It was definitely a hit or miss especially on bigger bosses and purge troopers. Another feature I hope they add in the next game is a incoming attack sign. You don’t understand how many times I died because I was in mob and a enemy attack me from behind. Especially when raiding the imperial base The story I would give it a 7/10 it was good although something I noticed was that Cal was a wanted person it didn’t really feel like he was. Nobody was hunting him No Inquisitors No Bounty Hunter. You would think after all the attacking he been doing over the years he would’ve a priority target. Lastly I wished we could’ve seen more of the high republic council or even more members. I just wanted to dive in the High Republic era with Cal

[@batmanvsuperman_]

The game shows it on screen in the beginning Press Block to cancel attack animations.

[@liberationpocket7950]

@@batmanvsuperman_ So not only can I not dodge on command, but I have to block first just to exit animation? It's completely redundant lol. Because if I want block, I would just block. But since you can't block unblockable attacks, I would expect to be able to move out of the way to avoid damage. This is the one problem that I have with the combat in this game. Just a dumb mechanic

[@Zachman-bj5ju]

I can not wait until jedi 3, I hope they allow you to choose to walk the light or dark since Cal dipped into the dark side a lot in this game so it would be nice to choose your path in the 3rd. With 2 different endings depending on your alignment.

[@kp-legacy-5477]

They have to have a canon ending for it as it has to fit into the lore

[@elitexkaoz]

Fr like a rdr2 honor system but for light or dark side

[@isthatajojoreference.]

Merrin is gonna play a big part of that, I feel that if cal does start to slip into the darkness she may be the only one who can save him, and if she and cal have kids it would make it even better because then he would understand why bode did what he did.

[@ppgod6989]

I want him to fully embrace the Grey Side. That should be the canon ending. He grows old with merrin and has a family.

[@TheOFWGKTADGAFBB]

@@ppgod6989 grey isn’t a thing in canon tho so I doubt they’d do that

[@LegendThriller135]

Last two boss fights were super difficult. Large worlds, great story telling, tons of fun. It blows my mind that anything affiliated with EA was this good. 9/10 for me too Theory.

[@noahcrawford747]

This game is a 20/10 for me I enjoyed it a lot more than the last and the last one was basically perfect. Cal is really evolving into what we hoped Luke would become as a Jedi by realizing the mistakes of the past order and trusting in the force. The high republic stuff was really cool and the only reason Cal messed with the high republic stuff was to find a place to hide people from the empire. Yeah the fighting is a bit frustrating but it really makes you learn the patterns of your enemies and forces you to be perfect and I enjoy that because it’s so rewarding to beat a boss. I also think Cere is a lot more powerful than you guys think and she uses a lot of the dark side while fighting id imagine like Windu. It would’ve been cool to see her get a purple lightsaber and I hope cal creates a new lightsaber if they make a next game with a purple crystal. Also no one mentions that Jaro Tapal was Yaddles padawan and Cal meeting Boba Fett in the bounty hunter side missions

[@infinitedeath1384]

I cannot get enough of Jedi survivor, they've really done a great job with these new star wars games. It feels so good and satisfying using the lightsaber, they did the combat really well.

[@matteomilesimartin5623]

I really enjoyed Jedi Survivor. Overall I would give it an 8/10 👍. It was nice seeing The Jedi Temple again.

[@girthatbirth]

8/10? 😂

[@Kaarvo]

@@girthatbirth 8/10 is generous and I’m a huge Star Wars fan. This game was great but had so much potential to be so much more.

[@DREWSTROY727]

@@girthatbirth 8/10 is fair. There’s a lot to do, good story, and great combat/enemy diversity.

[@SilvaKrovacski]

Game is 10,000/10. It was perfect from head to toe... And this is from someone who nit-picks and complains A LOT especially about Star Wars.

[@fawzanahmad9781]

8/10? This game is a 9 for sure

[@guankzmm4176]

The idea that a fully fledged Jedi master couldn’t in any way compete with Vader is kind of a crazy idea imo, we saw her pull a firming ship out of the air lol, not like Vader ever got enraged anyway, I feel like your making it sound like something it’s not

[@kp-legacy-5477]

Theory does this alot His idea of star wars characters are heavily exaggerated due to being a lover of things like the force unleashed and other legends material which makes everyone seem like gods.

[@jamesdaviesanswers8751]

She’s a scrub nobody. Vader is a force of nature. The fight was extremely dumb

[@jamesdaviesanswers8751]

@@kp-legacy-5477 Vader is supposed to be like a god. The fight was really dumb.

[@guankzmm4176]

@@kp-legacy-5477 yeah I get that, but the fight as a whole I thought was done well, I feel like he is missing the part where she truly was buying time, and had accepted her death and fought with no fear, I’d take that over force unleashed any day (not that I don’t wish they’d remake it lol, fuckin lived that game)

[@Dezzyyy]

@James Davies Answers you're the type of person who makes star wars no fun lol. Get over your childhood crush and stop d*ck riding and come to the real world where we know what's ACTUALLY Canon and Vader is very much NOT the God he was supposed to be ever since he was crippled.

[@Alcatraz760]

I have to credit this game for properly visualising what it feels like to use the dark side, like no wonder Anakin fell, if you could be that level of OP consistently you'd best anything. The game really shows why the light side is harder to use. And also this game also shows why Obi wan's defensive style works, coz you literally need to parry until the stamina bar runs out.

[@alexanderwilliam2306]

Romance was part of what made Kotor 1 so memorable. Loved the addition in this game, raises the stakes for both characters and invested me deeply.

[@fordoslegacystarwars]

Not a lot alot of people are talking about Oppo Rancisis. He was a council member during the High Republic with Master Yoda and Yarael Poof. You see all 3 of them in the phantom menace in the council chambers.

[@notobi-wan8344]

I was thinking that name sounded familiar.

[@AbsurdFalcon]

Ironically Yareal Poof, Yoda, Oppo Rancisis, Tera Sinube, and Yaddle have all Jedi Masters/Council for hundreds of years before the prequels during the Jedi’s Golden Age.

[@Max-zg6ld]

missed oppurtunity to meet Cal, since he was there with Dagan and its implied he survived O66. Maybe Cal will bmeet him in the next game, and they can chat about Dagan

[@botta88]

I loved watching your livestreams man. It was a really good time. I think when Cal started channeling the dark energy, that moment was so fun in the stream!

[@cy_pher03]

Vader is not almighty, Cere is a Jedi Master and has trained the last five years very intensely, healed her connection to the force and became very powerful. She absolutely destroyed the imperial army on Jedha. I think she might be on the powerlevel of Plo Koon or Qui-Gon at this point. So its absolutely realistic that she gives Vader a run for his money. Anakin was able to kill that many Jedi in Episode 3 because it was a huge surprise, he had back up in the 501st and he hasn’t been held back by his suit at that point. Plus the dark side was very powerful during order 66. Against experienced Jedi Vader always struggles but he never gets beaten. The coolest thing about Vader is not, that he never gets hit. Its that he can get hit very hard, but still steamrolls his enemys because him getting injured only makes him stronger. There was no way Cere would have won this fight. And Vader staggering a bit is just showing that hes not invincible but still unbeaten!

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

bla bla bla . another star was scholar trying to explain disney star wars writing and creating plot armors... just shush

[@cy_pher03]

@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it or just someone with his own opinion who is allowed to disagree because we are in the 21st century. Just shush kid

[@riko9911x]

Vader is so overhyped its getting annoying af.. Its pleases me to see him losing

[@David-tl5qi]

What a cool comment, I completely agree. Well said!

[@swift2247]

Couldn't have said it any better

[@StarWarsThrowbacks]

I did not expect Bode’s betrayal to hurt me this much 🥲

[@CaseyRedgrave]

It's honestly getting tiring hearing that Vader is like invincible force....he ain't completely invincible, Cere wasn't the first Jedi to damage him and land few hits on him. He got messed up in comics and other games as well, but I guess those are fine and this one for some reason isn't? Why? Cause she landed one hit on him and dropped some books or whatever on him? You should know that Vader sometimes toys and gets cocky with his opponents, which sometimes leads to him failing the mission or getting wounded.

[@karolclark791]

In live action and animated shows he losses to more powerful opponents like Luke And Obi Wan. He easily defeats weaker ones like Kanan or Reva. But Cere is a jedi Master so it makes sense for her to be able to put up a good fight

[@JohnWick-kb5jr]

Vader was 100% messing with her. He uses 1 hand for most of the fight until his final phase. Then he goes 2-handed and begins throwing things at Cere. Whenever he uses 1 hand he’s barely trying.

[@swooshie4749]

@@JohnWick-kb5jr Denial

[@JohnWick-kb5jr]

@@swooshie4749 It’s okay, Vader isn’t invulnerable or a God. I expected a comment from someone with a Vader picture. 🤣

[@joel5135]

10:20 vader would destroy any jedi without any effort. cere included. but he doesn't want that. he wants a fight. therefore he plays with his opponents. and that is his greatest weakness. as obi wan once said. The way he moved at the start of the fight proves it. he was basically just having fun. besides, it's not the first time his armor has been destroyed like this. in the comics, it feels like his armor is destroyed every few minutes. especially since cere is a champion. father underestimated her. so he was surprised

[@jamesdaviesanswers8751]

That’s not what happened though. He genuinely struggled against this absolute scrub Jedi. It was dumb.

[@joel5135]

@@jamesdaviesanswers8751 bro? he made the most disrespectful moves. he only started to exert himself when his armor was on the ass. and that was only because of his classic weakness. he knows how superior he is and that's why he underestimates his opponent. it's always been like that and he can't change it.

[@jamesdaviesanswers8751]

@@joel5135 why would be have put himself in a position where he could have been seriously injured or hurt? He should have literally cut her in half within the first seconds of the fight. Shit was dumb AF.

[@LDNT14]

Exactly Joel, totally agree.

[@locoartsuu9607]

Exactly, Vader loves to "f*ck around and find out" coz the "find out" part is what he lives for. Besides, it's not that he "limps weak", his suit just got messed up again.

[@anonymoose2685]

I loved the fact that Dagan was high republic and was woken up. But I felt his story was very rushed. It would have been cool if he took Bode’s story or fought with Cal for a short time before turning.

[@pjdoherty7590]

All the Jedi that Anikan killed were consumed by fear. Cere was free of it. That’s why she lasted so long

[@MythicJedi]

Your livestreams were great man! When Jedi 3 releases I’m definitely taking a day off work to just play the game and watch your streams

[@unincognito3689]

I think the problem with the High Republic is getting into it. There are all these new characters, new locations. And I am a very visual person, so not being able to visualise what everything looks like makes it hard for me. I don't neccesarily get bored reading but I find it hard to keep reading, no motivation to do so. But the comics are a lot easier for me and its helping me learn characters that way so then I can visualise the books a bit more. I know what Avar Kriss and Loden Greatstorm look like for example. So if you want to get into the High Republic but struggle with the books maybe try the comics first.

[@ArmaHipHopTV]

This is mostly just human nature, sadly. We all love old stuff we already know and it's harder to get a good idea of new things. But really, we do need new things that expand the world and not keep recycling the same stuff.

[@unincognito3689]

@@ArmaHipHopTV Ye, I just need to see those new stuff. Not just read words on paper :D

[@mark_thurwanger]

Honestly, I’m not all that interested in anything not Jedi vs Sith related in Star Wars. That’s why I can’t get into it without getting bored. Just not for me.

[@unincognito3689]

@@mark_thurwanger that seems silly to me since that limits the Star Wars Universe so much. I would find it boring if it was always Jedi vs Sith. New enemies, new heroes are good too. The Mandalorian is great and has nothing to do with Jedi vs Sith.

[@QuiGonJinn1993]

I think illustrations is what keeps reads at bay cause if its just words only its hard to imagine what this or that is or what it looks like but with animated pictures it does help explain a bit more and helps the reader. So to me its alot easier to get into Comics rather than reading just Novels.

[@RaycastAF]

I feel like the thing you’re missing with the Cere/Vader Fight is that Vader often plays with his Food. And likely did not respect Cere. And was surprised to find she had reconnected to the force, He thought he was fighting a broken Jedi, and found out otherwise. And once she did surprise him and injure him cause he then quickly closed the fight. Like the him stabbing her, and her missing, let’s not ignore the likelihood that Vader was over the fight, likely moved her blade. And ended the fight. But for the sake of the story and them wanting a third Game, Vader had to not be there when Cal came back, cause Cal would have 100000000% have gotten absolutely destroyed. He likely would have done better holding his own this time, but still would have died. I don’t think they under powered Vader I think he was caught off guard cause he was playing with his food as he is want to do.

[@RaycastAF]

I’d Also Like to Highlight Cal’s Conversation with Bode after getting the Compass. Bode Pushed Back on Cal wanting it to be a Secret Planet for Just Them and Their Friends. The Decision to Betray them came when Cal opened it up for the Hidden Path. And Finally I think the Distraction of the High Republic and Gendaii was good, I was hoping for more Cameos, and Planets. But I am happy with what we got, minus I still want Prequel Era Robes like what’s the deal with that. But the High Republic Tanalorr Distraction was good, so good Infact that I think the story writing and story boarding did the job of allowing most to forget the Empire was a threat. So Bodes Betrayal, and Darth Vaders Arrival as well as the Imperial Fleet came as a Surprise to me. Even though I could see Bodes conflict.

[@IorekBear92]

I think you're right. I haven't been as connected to Star wars lore as I used to be for a while so I'm a little rusty now, but you seem to know a little more. I was just wandering around the Lucrehulk and experienced the encounter with Rayvis, does it seem to you that this Gen'dai character is the same as the strange, tentacled bounty hunter enemy Obi-Wan faces in the cartoon clone wars mini series? I never made any other connections to that character before.

[@jaylanmayhew589]

The vader cope is amazing, and its even sadder knowing you've read the vader comics and have seen him win but that doesn't always mean he'll come out unscathed. Cere after fallen order embraces the light side of the force and becoming a paragon for the light not only that but being vader literally states cere has gotten stronger since their encounter. If it was cal sure it'd definitely be weird but cere is like the least offensive in terms of duels against vader hell he even lost to kenobi was also out of shape as well. I love vader and hes a monster in combat but hes not this infinite auto dodge/block character its even more badass how subtle he was with her killing blow just simply for the subtlety and subterfuge

[@hami_1012]

Seriously these streams are the best thing ever on your channel Already looking forward to the third part of the Jedi: series

[@karolclark791]

I really don't want to see Vader so OP that he effortlessly kills a jedi Master. It was cool to see him disrespect Reva but do you really want to see that all the time? Do you want to always run from him and for him to have no health bar? Now that's lame and boring. The reason why Kryptonite was made to weaken Superman was because people didn't care when he was literally untouchable. Vader got his ass hand to him by Kenobi twice, she a fully trained jedi Master would not be an instant win for Vader

[@LadWithNoDad]

I feel like they've been planting the seeds of Cal's slow descent into darkness for a long time now, he suffered a lot of trauma, carried a lot of guilt, his second master used the darkside, and even Knighted him with a red lightsaber and in top of that, we saw a force vision with Cal as an Inquisitor. Now with Cal full-blown embracing the darkness in his moments of need I feel like the natural evolution of the series is to give him darkside powers in the third game.

[@donomar_9985]

Imagine we get force choke and crush! I think I read somewhere before (or maybe even one of theory's videos) that force slow is more associated with the dark side? Nevertheless, it's sick, I fully embraced it by using the purple blade!

[@ColinMusora]

@@donomar_9985 there is already force crush for droids in survivor, but no choke sadly

[@donomar_9985]

@@ColinMusora there is? I haven't unlocked that yet. Is it on the skill tree?

[@ColinMusora]

@@donomar_9985 without spoiling, its apart of the late game "Slow Ability" it isnt explicitly taught, but man it is fun to do

[@ColinMusora]

You feel like Luke Skywalker crushing Dark Troopers, makes DT and KX droids sooo easy

[@Jake-2323]

This is a fantastic review! Espeically in regards to the dodge aspect in fighting. I personally loved the direction the story took as throughout the story Cal was constantly thinking of how to stop/slow the empire. One thing that I didnt like was that he felt like he was apart of Saw Gerrera's team at the start and then it was never mentioned again. I felt maybe Saw shouldve contacted him or something at the least and just have Cal say that he is busy or something hahah. 9/10 game for me!

[@louisrharmony]

What you said about the combat is exactly why I mained the Dual Saber stance. Being able to parry mid attack, and even dodge mid attack if you know the trick made the combat so much more enjoyable.

[@CleanCT-]

Same!

[@BuddyChy]

That’s very true. I have barely used it but that ability to cancel made me want to try it. I have mained the double blade. It’s awesome especially mowing down groups and just fun to use, but you have to be very careful because it’s the worst when it comes to getting caught in long move animations.

[@1001History]

I used dual sabre but couldn't mid attack parry... what??? 😂

[@SMBH-M87]

Using dual stance, Cal can parry mid-attack _iff_ one saber is used during the attack animation.

[@BuddyChy]

@@SMBH-M87 wait, that actually makes sense if true

[@grahamallan4067]

I would love to see theory videos on this game of what the next game would cover or like how it fits into the hidden path

[@landonp1113]

It was so fun watching you play on stream!! Always a blast

[@danielmedeles4618]

amazing video bro ! loved joining in watching the play through !!

[@revanstarborne906]

I disagree with your opinion of the Vader and cere fight I thought it made sense I hate that people think Vader can just roll over people and not give him a real fight that's really strange.

[@merkingsavage6045]

That's part of vaders character is that he hardly ever tries and still wins

[@v8rmusic406]

Ngl vader has been messed up in a lot of his dubs. I wasn't surprised that cere took him as far as she did. She's clearly powerful and experienced. Especially since he has a tendency to play with his food until last minute.

[@sarko5989]

I actually really liked the Cere fight, i didn’t think it made Vader look bad, rather it highlighted how much Cere has grown since the first game. This lady had went from getting yeeted within 5 seconds of seeing Vader to leaving him limping away from the fight. Vader is a warrior, and you can’t expect his armor to be nice and shiny after every encounter with rogue jedi. For Cere though, I think this fight was a worthy death for her, and I really liked it for that.

[@alexarmaos4360]

Vader ISN’T and shouldn’t be invincible. That would be boring as hell. It’s nice seeing him struggle from time to time and honestly this whole sequence with the Bode reveal was my favourite part of the game!!!

[@Dgrodi24]

This game is a 10/10 for me

[@LJ8Superbowl59MVP]

Same man I loved every bit of it I even got the platinum trophy for it on ps5

[@schlobster3929]

It’s certainly a 10 for me in every aspect except performance, it’s impossible to ignore

[@guankzmm4176]

@The Second Sons can be fixed, core game still 10/10 for him, it’s his opinion stop shitting on it

[@LJ8Superbowl59MVP]

@The Second Sons yea it’s not perfect at all ! But I still enjoyed my time with it the combat and flow of the game is great to me ! But the performance and stuttering and fps drops need to be fixed asap ! They could have kept the game atleast another month to polish it fully

[@harcormor]

With seeing the Vader fight, i think a better mechanic would have been to have you fight him down to the cutscene where he bursts out of the rubble, then thats the end of the damage you do to him, he comes out with a vengeance and absolutely destroys Cere, actually lose the fight in order to advance…hard to explain what I mean, but the point of the fight since we know how powerful he is, is just to survive as long as you can then when you lose after that halfway point it goes to the cut scene of Cere actually dying. Just my 2 scents.

[@mcnizzzle3961]

yeah you should just have to try to survive against him for a few minutes. ant attack you land should’ve been countered.

[@jbsargent1396]

I thought that this game was amazing! Cal’s development as a Jedi and struggling with the dark side was awesome to see! Cal and Merrin’s love story was very well executed and I love how it progressed throughout the story! Also love that it didn’t follow off of that horrible book! I loved the sequences with Merrin, which by the way she is now one of my all time favorite Star Wars characters after completing this game…🤤 I thought that the ending to the first game was more satisfying, but this game overall is definitely better! Darth Scrote (Ravvis) was criminally underused!! I really enjoyed how Cere and Cordova were both working together trying to fight against the empire. I also loved that we were able to play as Cere against Vader, that was awesome! Some of the boss battles were pretty easy while others were really hard and made me give in and lower the difficulty. RIP RICK THE DOOR TECHNICIAN! Your reactions were really hilarious and entertaining! I luckily didn’t get the Bode betrayal spoiled for me, however I did get the Vader part spoiled. I didn’t know when Vader would show up, but I did know he would be in the game. I’d give the game a 9/10!!

[@julianjames2899]

Ceres fight with Vader makes sense from a storytelling to game play point of view. As the player, you are being placed in the shoes of a character who has accepted and is fully aware they are about to die. The game did a very good job showcasing what a competent warrior can accomplish when fear is absent and they have given themselves completely to the force. It's also worth noting that there is a sense of accomplishment felt by a player when they get to fight one of the greatest villains to ever exist anywhere and do a noticeable amount of damage.

[@ChristopherFortunate]

I really liked the fight between Vader and Cere. To me it showed how strong Cere became once she let go of the fear and doubt of her past while also showing how strong in the force and dark side she is. As far as bugs in the game I only had 2 bugs, my game crashed once, and Cal’s arm disappeared when I wore the Duelist Jacket. Other than those no bugs and i’m just playing on the Digital edition PS5. I was surprised to hear people were having so many issues

[@thewarlock9846]

It just doesn't make sense if you know Vader's character. And the explanation for this that she has no fear anymore is just stupid

[@CojaGamez]

​@@thewarlock9846 It absolutely does. Sith prey on fear, and fear weakens jedi

[@ChristopherFortunate]

@@thewarlock9846 I never said she had no fear. I said she “let go” of it meaning it no longer controlled her. Everybody has fear its just not letting it control you is what matters and is also the hard part. Vader is an icon and one of the most strongest characters in all of star wars but if you take the fear and intimidation aspect away from a Sith at this point it just becomes whose better at Lightsaber combat and the ways of the Force. Once a fight is broken down to these two things in Star Wars its always close no matter what.

[@thewarlock9846]

@@CojaGamez but not in this case. I mean vader just completely destroyed her in fallen order and now she is on an level with vader 😂 that's just bad writing and there's no excuse

[@ChristopherFortunate]

@@thewarlock9846 he beat a woman who closed herself off to the force for years, not even touching her lightsaber and when she did try and finally use it was out of anger and emotion just charging in against an experienced Sith lord.

[@dkuser1000]

I didn’t mind the Vader fight at all. I feel like Cere learned a ton since her last fight with Vader and took it as serious as humanly possible while Vader personally didn’t think much of it and was enjoying toying with her, using every last ability she’s got, thinking it would be a cake walk. I think he underestimated her based off their last fight. Which is why after Cere throws all that rubble at him it was game time and that’s when he got serious. And obviously he came out on top bc he’s Vader lol

[@mauritslambers9513]

Spot on my guy theorie this was a epic review and love all the videos you make. Keep it up ❤️👍🏻

[@EllieisaBanana]

Having read and caught up on the current high republic I’m really happy to see it in the game. I feel it’s very well done and written once you get passed the fact that it’s not about anything we know or would like. Reading it with an open mind really makes it a great series in my opinion. I’m excited to see how the High Republic ties this into their series as well because they haven’t gotten to the big end they are building too and I suspect that this is going to have a lot to do with it. As far as the rest of it all I couldn’t be happier. Cal is a new favorite and I can’t wait to see where his story goes from here.

[@TakiGamesOfficial]

I enjoyed this a ton. Probably like an 8 for me. I’m a sucker for multiple combat stances and cosmetics. I liked how the loot wasn’t stat based and gating wasn’t too annoying. My favorite sequence was probably that whole teleporting thing with Merrin, that was ridiculously fun. Dismemberment was nice. Would’ve been cool if you can use 3 stances like the Jedi Knight games. I’m a solo developer for Unreal Engine and I don’t really understand how so many AAA games fail to utilize instant dodging, like it’s really not hard to implement. I think one of the things that makes it feel slow and not as responsive is that it’s seemingly fully mocapped and they’re going for realistic movements. If you animate using key frames instead, you can get a more crisp and fast movements and these movements being not as realistic is a price worth paying, it’s a videogame. It easily get away with stylized movements. It also doesn’t help that the enemy telegraphs in this game aren’t that great. But it’s nice it looks like there’s a time dilation mode in options to study enemy movements in slow mode? The Pilgrim chapter and some other areas were pretty annoying I had to go to KZbin to figure out how to get through. While having more freedom in a bigger world was nice, I enjoy smaller linear level sequences more. Usually the pacing is much better and the action is more consistent. I also wasn’t feeling the story as much as the first game but I really enjoyed Cal more in this one, he was more witty and professional, kinda like Leon’s evolution from RE2 to RE4. Lots of people complained about bugs and performance. I played on a laptop with a rtx2070s without any issues. I played on 1920x1080 and capped fps at 60 everything else was on default.

[@vertix10]

i really liked the game, i hope they make a third one, which they most definitely will

[@c8h8r8i8s8]

As a High Republic fan I really enjoyed this. There were a lot of references that made this really fun. The stories were difficult to get into (especially the early ones) but worth it. You should do a Theory book club or something, that would be cool.

[@spike-rf2dc]

The high republic is an incredible era for storytelling. It's really cool that there was this renaissance era of the republic and Jedi. Makes the current universe feel more lived in, like there is something to reclaim. Felt very "golden age". If they used the term "old republic" you'd be loving it.

[@JustSaiyanZ]

Damn I really wish you made this after you did the bounty hunter mission bcz it would of all work out so well in this review 😭

[@TremendousTristen]

my thoughts on why Vader got so badly beaten was because this was like a few days or weeks after his battle with Obi Wan. Yes he seems healed but that slash on his head from Obi Wan, which stays there until his death in RoTJ, was causing him to lose focus in the force and weakened him but he still was stronger than Cere even with the injury. The injury helped Cere in the beginning, and then Vader began to become less confident and more focused on actually destroying Cere, which leads to his trickery at the end of the fight

[@ryankwon8785]

Regarding the Imperial Jedha operation, I loved how Commander Denvick (An ISB Leader) was angry that Vader and the Inquisitorius interfered in his campaign against the Hidden Path because he sees Vader and the Inquisitorius as a bunch of savages. Regarding Vader, he managed to kill a huge number of Jedi masters in the Jedi Temple because that was before he was burned and later encased in his dark suit (Vader lost most of his powers after being burned). Because of his suit, Vader was limited in how he fights causing him to lose to Jedi masters like Obi-Wan and Cere Junda (both bested Vader because they stopped fearing him). Both were already powerful, but their fear of Vader limited their skills (In Fallen Order, Cere managed to use the Force powerfully to subdue Vader during their past confrontation in Fortress Inquisitorius's underwater hallway). Vader bested Ahsoka because he trained her and knows her moves very well and the rest weren't Jedi Masters as most were already killed by Vader before he was burned on Mustafar and most were killed during Order 66. Nevertheless, Vader should be powerful to defeat Cere, but I just think Vader toyed with Cere at first until he became even more serious when he was burning when a huge burning shelf fell on him. This kind of parallels how Vader quickly reacted to the AT-AT Walkers falling on him in Rebels, showing Vader taking his fights a bit more seriously even though he toyed with Ezra and Kanan at first. Despite this, I might be totally wrong in my opinions because I, myself, am confused about Vader's power scale and fighting methodology in events during events of the Rise of the Empire. Remember, Vader underestimated and got wrecked by opponents weaker than him such as Chelli Lona Aphra. Aphra humiliated, manipulated, and defeated Vader many times using her scientific and strategic skills. She is so skilled that Vader and Sidious know her and keeps track of her. Sidious even admitted wanting to keep Aphra around because she has the potential to be one of his valuable assets. Nimbleness is also important for a fighter because it allows them to jump, react, dodge, and counter. Vader is not nimble after being burned on Mustafar so he has to rely on his brain to think how he can beat his opponents (Darth Momin defeated Vader in mere seconds in a duel because Momin is nimble. Sidious won for the same exact reason when sparring with Vader. Nimbleness is important which Cere and Cal portrayed). Also, Cal joining the Hidden Path makes more sense because that will just make it confusing as to why he didn't help out the Rebel Alliance during its early stages. The reason is now that he is actually trying to give shelter to Force Sensitives, Force Followers, and Jedi supporters on Tanalorr.

[@nissanzenkiboy]

I loved the game it was a perfect story, the relationship between Merrin and the rest of the gang is so well done you can connect with them. Especially I loved that he also had to face the dark side and having to overcome it and tasting a bit of its power. I will take this over all Disney Star Wars movies. OH can't forget BD-2!

[@cameronmckinnon7750]

I feel the fight with Vader and cere was perfect because let’s remember vader isn’t invulnerable he has been often pushed to the edge and I feel he expected this to be a walk over but cere had let go of her fear and really was at her maximum potential obviously she was never gonna be able to beat him but I think it went very accurately

[@ejmcmoo214]

😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@austindepiction3736]

I enjoyed watching you fight Vader for the hour you did, good content as always

[@tk_drako]

I love your review and your streams Theory. You are by far my favorite content creator to watch and your passion for Star Wars really did show. I had a great time watching the stream while playing along at home up until I hit a game progress preventing glitch and now I can’t even finish the story let alone see Cere fight Vader sadly. I’m gonna be forced to restart my entire journey so I won’t play for a while unfortunately.

[@pizzakitty69]

I think theres a lot more to Tanaloor that we initially see which is really what I'm hoping to see from another installment. The whole Nihil's attack on talanoor has me very intrigued and wondering if they still inhabit Tanaloor. Another interesting point is the gate that you make with the beams and then pass through resembles the same symbol as the Nihil. So I think theres alot more going on here than what meets the eye. Makes me very keen on reading the books to see if there is any more info on the politics surrounding the Nihil and the Republic.

[@kellz9972]

The first High Republic novel really dives into the Nihil and how they operate in the galaxy.

[@lucaleone4331]

No there really isnt anything more in the books. Theyre basically just marauders with a unique advantage over hyperspace. But I wont lie definitly thought that once we got to Talanor they were going to introduce the Nihil and have us fight new enemies which would be so badass to introduce new enemies that late into the game.

[@SirFlooberis]

Exactly I was kinda disappointed how empty tanalor was, at the very least they could of added a few chest with high republic stuff. It was really the only time I felt disappointed by this game

[@superjlk_9538]

@@SirFlooberis everything kind of felt tacked on after Cere died, like the game was rushing you to get done. The lack of planets really really sucked. I got bored pretty quickly.

[@zakwilliamson4951]

@@superjlk_9538 would much rather have a more personal story than more planets for the sake of it

[@hectictazmaniaprime]

I really enjoyed Jedi Survivor took me 3 days to do Cal has become one of my favourites for sure after seeing him using the dark side his relationship was perfect not forced or anything.

[@locoartsuu9607]

I think it's heading for a Light-and-Dark Jedi balance for Cal. Which for some reason, Disney-Lucasfilm could never fully commit to with Ahsoka, Luke, or even Rey.

[@hectictazmaniaprime]

@@locoartsuu9607 yer that would be interesting a light and dark story for the 3rd one with Cal seeing him struggling to find balance

[@mikaelmays5260]

I think the fight with vader made sense. Vader’s whole thing is fear. Most Jedi are too afraid to fight him. She said she let it go. She is also a Jedi master. Also the scene in the temple is different because anakin and the 501st did a shock and ahh campaign, so he caught most of those Jedi off guard.

[@matteodilorenzo2961]

I have only read the Light of the Jedi and the Into the dark book for the high republic and the first book is mainly setting up all the characters in the begging which is why it is very hard read since it is super slow but once you get past all the high republic timeline set up and character intros the rest of the book is fun and seeing what the Jedi come up against is very cool.

[@samg1803]

Cal's journey has just begun. A very underrated, gut-wrenching cutscene in this game is when he opens up to Merrin on the mantis on what if he loses himself to the dark side. A very cognitive approach to a character who is conflicted on if he should let go of the jedi's view of attachment, and the consequences that would occur if they things were to go catastrophic, and seeing him struggle with his emotions after Bode's betrayal and unleashing his anger in front of Merrin in both in the front of the Imperial authority and the ending boss fight with Bode, just for her to be the guiding light on his side. Tremendous stuff, and with more avenue to expand this relationship and Cal's troubles. I can't wait for what Respawn is going to cook!

[@noobbricks8090]

Possibly my favorite part of the game is the fight between the ISB and Inquisitorius. Really interesting to show the hate between the parts of the Empire.

[@Gor85]

Pretty good breakdown and analysis. Glad you had such a fun time :) Didn't play Fallen Order yet. or Force Unleashed. Cal using dark side is epic :D It's perfect. I watched your videos,your reactions. I think game is awesome. I agree,being flexible takes you higher,you're more open minded,you learn more. So, nice view. The Force will be with you too. Always :)

[@ryantruman6956]

Hiya! Around 13:00 Theory starts talking about the Dodge mechanic in this game and how sub-par it is. Oddly enough, I found that the Dual Wield Stance (and ONLY that stance) has absolutely impeccable dodging. You can be in the middle of literally mashing out a string and hit dodge and it will happen. The rest of the stances (as far as I've seen) are HIGH commitment, which is not great when unblockable attacks are such a prominent feature. But yea, just thought I'd chime in! Duel Wield Dodge is boss!!

[@D-Pooly]

You know what, yeah, I haven't had a single negative feeling towards this game until Dagan was sidelined and turned out to not be the final boss. It just left a bad taste in mouth, killed my interest in how the story goes

[@themotivatedmaycry9120]

Nah it was fine

[@cartifan2024]

Should've completely focused on Dagan, could've done without Bode

[@arwinaBlu_Kat]

I would like to see cal go to the dark side a little more. Merrin did tell him they would bring him back if he ever lost himself.

[@kanomorojele4956]

10:49 Critical Drinker: "...Because the MESSAGE" lol

[@DamianHowardTV]

Happy STAR WARS Day, Theory! And May the 4th be with you!💫

[@mattmobily1975]

My main gripe was that the entire story was based on the incredible coincidence that a high republic temple just happened to be located under Greez's saloon, connected to Cal's living quarters...

[@mark_thurwanger]

For real. The game is full of these perfect coincidences that makes me take this story less seriously.

[@mattmobily1975]

@@mark_thurwanger Exactly. Why not simply have the intel obtained from Coruscant be the temple location?

[@SMBH-M87]

I mean, there were several High Republic temples and artifacts already known to be on Koboh. Toa is a side character that knows much about this and offers rumors and dialogue. But I still get your meaning. Incredibly convenient to have occurred as it did.

[@ghostlyswat12]

I mean Star Wars is full of coincidences that string the plot together

[@WookieeOfLand]

I enjoyed the game as well! I didn't mind the Vader v Cere fight as much as you did, she was the last remaining bastion of the Republic. Like she said, she has been fearless and a big part of Darth Vader is that he is such an icon of fear in the Empire by just existing. I know this isore of a game mechanic, but I think it plays into the story a bit for why Cere lasted as long and was able to strike a blow to Vader. He under estimated her, he came in there not giving it his 100%. He was playing with his kill and after getting tossed into a holo-bookcase is where started to get serious. That's just my take on it. I agree about the High Republic thing, felt really pushed even though it did feel refreshing to not be constrained by the Empire plot. My take on Bode being a Jedi is that I didn't like it. Just takes away from Order 66 and makes Jedi or force users feel more and more common in that era when there's not supposed to be. I feel like I would have enjoyed to story more if Dagan and Bode were swapped in the plot progression and kept with Dagan as the main villian to fight at Tanalorr. And just made Bode an Imperial agent without being a Jedi. Overall, I still really enjoyed this game. I haven't obsessed and fanboy-ed over a game, like I have with Jedi: Survivor, since I was a teenage.

[@joshreid1006]

It’s common knowledge that many Jedi survived though. Why would Vader even have inquisitors if he wasn’t hunting down remaining Jedi? If anything they haven’t introduced enough survivors. basically every inquisitor is a survivor of the purge.

[@swooshie4749]

@@joshreid1006 Palpatine told him to lay it off with his obsession with the Jedi, but when you beat the game you can find a force echo where Bode contacts the empire and says there’s multiple jedi so it required Vader himself to come

[@WookieeOfLand]

@@joshreid1006 I understand the sentiment and then need for inquisitors. My main concern is that Cal has discovered or has encounters with multiple exiles in a very large galaxy. The point is that for me at least, the story of him fighting another fallen Jedi is old. I'm not talking about inquisitors when I say that. I mainly mean Malcos and Bode. It's a game so lightsaber combat is gold, so I get it. There's probably around 100 or so Jedi that survived of 10k. That's 0.01 percent, which is pretty efficient, but 100 is still a large amount so I am not saying it's not impossible. But in the largeness of a galaxy it's shocking he keeps having run-ins with specifically the fallen Jedi of the survivors.

[@joshreid1006]

@@WookieeOfLand Yeah the fallen Jedi thing is pretty random. But it’s a story, which in reality can play out any way it seems necessary. I still don’t think that’s a gripe on the story as a whole, you can agree that any story people can disagree with. But also you have to understand that Cal didn’t just stumble across Bode in a massive galaxy. Bode was hiding and was caught by the empire and in turn became an agent. He was sent by the empire to spy on on Cal probably because of his previous spy duties while working for the Jedi and because he can beat Cal in a fight. It wasn’t just an aha moment, because if you think about it Star Wars has done great on this front, because really nobody just “comes across” someone. Everyone is doing their own thing and only come across someone when they’ve been sent to do so.

[@nubnubdubdeh]

I loved the gameplay and everything the story I was not expecting the surprises and twists with Bode and Vader but SEEING DARKSIDE CAL AND HIS STRUGGLE WITH YOUR REACTION GAVE ME CHILLS

[@McGriddle69]

I really really like this game. I do think the Vader fight was shoe horned in a bit just so they have Vader but other than that I really enjoy the story and that action set piece at the desert temple was one of the best action sequences I’ve seen in a video game and whoever wrote it deserves a raise lol

[@Great-ValueKenobi]

If you can get through Light of the Jedi I think you'll enjoy the high republic. The first book was so slow and boring, but the follow up book is phenomenal. As well as the young adult books.