Fel-Scarred Is INSANELY STRONG! Havoc DH Build, Opener & Rotation

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Jedith

Jedith

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@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
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@lambbosbread123
@lambbosbread123 3 ай бұрын
@@Jedithtv where is the macro for vengeful retreat meta
@XMASTERXx80
@XMASTERXx80 3 ай бұрын
Can it be used for PvP?
@sydmadememad
@sydmadememad 3 ай бұрын
thanx for making this shit make sense xo
@drEAm1ine
@drEAm1ine 2 ай бұрын
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@twicegravity
@twicegravity 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining the priority/opener sequence! It is way more manageable to learn a 20 button sequence when the why is more clear
@cozydreamer81
@cozydreamer81 2 ай бұрын
Yeah and knowing why is totally necessary when things go differently then a target dummy, which is always.
@licorneheureuse
@licorneheureuse 3 ай бұрын
Nice video as always ! You made the opener sequence very clear and it's important, because by pausing and all you give people time to read and understand each use of ability, ty !
@cameroncampbell5447
@cameroncampbell5447 3 ай бұрын
Thank god. I was really close to switching mains because I hate reaver's gameplay loop. Praise Illidan himself haha
@coryp6868
@coryp6868 3 ай бұрын
I've tried to explain to my friends since launch that reaver is cheeks. Average player will struggle to reach 85% efficiency of sim and during things like m+ where you are losing globals to utility it's just not good enough. Felscarred has felt fun and OP since day 1, I play it low/no mover with all the fun talents we haven't gotten to use for 2 years and top every overall chart. ❤
@reesalas
@reesalas 3 ай бұрын
same got an ele sham to 580 cuz i hated the aldrachi playstyle, felscarred felt good but i was hearing that it wasn't competetive.
@Nickball97
@Nickball97 3 ай бұрын
@@cameroncampbell5447 what's the issue with reaver?
@bassdropyoface
@bassdropyoface 3 ай бұрын
thanks for this. Im getting smashed in damage charts and was contemplating my existence as a DH.
@roryduckworth368
@roryduckworth368 3 ай бұрын
I was dreading the thought of Reaver in raids.. THANK YOU Jedith for this news.. I have just been yoloing FS the whole time because it just felt better... now its good to know I wont have to fumble through Reaver to be raid competitive. Videos like this is why i check Jediths content every day, keep doing the Lord Illidans work Sir! You are a gem!
@JRVG_21
@JRVG_21 3 ай бұрын
Whats the addon in the top left here 01:13 that shows rep, currencies & weekly quests? Ty!
@jonsnow1333
@jonsnow1333 3 ай бұрын
I’m glad I stuck with you through the video, good moral! I’ve been playing FS since release, and was not sure why I did so much more DPS, even though sims contradicted what I was experiencing.
@Epiphone1978
@Epiphone1978 24 күн бұрын
One of your best explainations for rotation and etc! Thank you!!!!
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 24 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Wolfspyder5
@Wolfspyder5 3 ай бұрын
Aldrachi feels broken, but not in a good way. You don't get to use throw glaive at fleeing/ranged targets because Reaver's Glaive might be active and you HAVE to be in melee range to benefit from it. Reaver's also doesn't benefit from any of the "throw glaive" talents. You're forced to give up Collective Anguish in favor of Sigil of Spite, _further_ nerfing your own eye beam. I can go on but you all get the point. The synergy is all wrong. The good news is, Alrachi will likely get a rework at some point.
@chc2650
@chc2650 3 ай бұрын
Its about as bad as Dark Ranger, so im optimistic it will get a similar rework.
@myracle001
@myracle001 3 ай бұрын
There's a reason people like Jedith are pillars of the community. Truly quality stuff!
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
YO i appreciate that. thank you.
@loganboyd10
@loganboyd10 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update! Rotation is looking fun
@ibrahimelmhadri6576
@ibrahimelmhadri6576 3 ай бұрын
How many haste is enough haste to fit this Death Sweep ? :)
@bourdeaumartin7065
@bourdeaumartin7065 3 ай бұрын
Hey, Simple (and maybe dumb) question : I still don’t get why we go eye beam before fel rush ? Can someone light my lantern ? Thanks !
@Velgan83
@Velgan83 2 ай бұрын
I'm so dumb. I was doing the old EB death sweep into meta. No wonder my parses sucked. Thanks, wish I saw this vid earlier, +, this is easier and makes more sense to spend more Annihilate into DS after you already spent all your prio spells after meta. I'm ashamed but now I know I can get better. Just got out of Mythic raiding night and was pretty bummed out about my parses, now I know where it comes from. Can't wait to wake up to practice my rota in m+ all day.
@cedrics.3938
@cedrics.3938 2 ай бұрын
What I always wonder about, why is the essence break windows so late? why wouldnt you just use essence break with the first eye beam and the first two demonsurges?
@SixTwoFive625
@SixTwoFive625 3 ай бұрын
Immo Aura being a ~27s cd and Sigil of Flame a 30s cd makes it a little weird. Are you supposed to hold both of these for your essence break combo every time? As in, do you hold Immo Aura for 13s and Sigil of Flame for 10s every time to line up with the 40s cd of eye beam and essence break? That way you get inertia, initiative and Student of suffering buff every time you essence break with your demonsurges going as well.
@Wanderer2808
@Wanderer2808 3 ай бұрын
Same question
@gjorgjekoloski
@gjorgjekoloski 3 ай бұрын
This is for The raid ST rotation only? or we use the same talents for M+ aswell
@shei_dox
@shei_dox 3 ай бұрын
CEkAEDLOxe3SEPP2R8Hw6bhoSYmZmZmZGMzMjxMZYGAAAAAAwsNMmZMzgZmtZbMmBzshlNMLziZMMLaaMmZGD2A Here's the MM+ talents we're gonna take, you can do slight modification in the class tree to have more survivability or more cc for the high keys
@Tenly_UK
@Tenly_UK 3 ай бұрын
Nice video as always !
@avp726
@avp726 3 ай бұрын
Sigil of flame should be used first before your essense break combo in the essence breaks between meta. For the 21% mastery buff
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
Take it up with wowhead
@andrewmitchell9427
@andrewmitchell9427 3 ай бұрын
You mentioned a couple times that you want to use your second demonsurge proc on annihilation, but if you're going eyebeam > fel rush > death sweep > annihilation, isn't that only one demonsurge from the death sweep, since you're not getting it from fel rush? am i missing something?
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
Demonsurge only applies to specific abilities, not “your next 2 abilities”. Eye beam gives a demonsurge to the first time you press death sweep or annihilation within that demonic window
@veljkovidanovic4204
@veljkovidanovic4204 3 ай бұрын
this is what perfect and fun rotation is now couldnt ask for better havoc gameplay now
@mewshifter
@mewshifter 3 ай бұрын
woah they made dh way too complicated now
@zarknall
@zarknall 3 ай бұрын
Thanks man! I wanted so much to play Fel-scarred but almost deleted my DH after hearing so much that this spec was dead
@Laserchesee
@Laserchesee 3 ай бұрын
Hey , i saw ur video with maximum . Would you change the placing of fel scarred now?
@Raye_Gaming6969
@Raye_Gaming6969 3 ай бұрын
Did you forget to tell that you hold Sigl for Essb Combo? or is this to mutch for Casuals to handle?
@tran-st
@tran-st 3 ай бұрын
nice video! but where does sigil of flame fit in here outside of the opener? do we ignore it
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
Use it before your essb windows
@tran-st
@tran-st 3 ай бұрын
@@Jedithtv thanks! so going by the video, right before immo aura or right before we press essence break?
@Phaseish
@Phaseish 3 ай бұрын
I am answering on this video to make sure i saw it right. yeah the trend i see from my dh buddy parsed 99% and jimmy is that Sigil of doom is being casted before flame. idk if thats a global thing or a human error, but since shaks logs weren't good in heroic because he was veng, nicememes logs are not up . i am only going by those two. I have also seen jimmy cast after doom an Annihilation in his logs, and in kill videos. this is just the opener, idk if thats some secret sauce cast sequence, but it's there. i haven't even picked apart anything else just on the opener, working on muscle memory from playing bfa, now you have to do 25 things before even hitting EB.
@Marcelo-0000
@Marcelo-0000 3 ай бұрын
The thing that makes me hate mover builds on DH is not having my mobility to dodge mechanics. Oh look, a meteor is about to fall and everyone needs to relocate. I play one of the most mobile classes in the game, but I have to spam glide because all my mobility tools are on cooldown due to a stupid damage rotation. Imagine if this design was in other classes: Raid leader: Hey rogue, sprint and clear all these puddles on the ground. Rogue: I can't sprint sir, I used it to make my poisons do more damage.
@Ressilge
@Ressilge 3 ай бұрын
@@Marcelo-0000 this is called bad planning on your part though.
@Marcelo-0000
@Marcelo-0000 3 ай бұрын
@@Ressilge using my skills to do the proper rotation which increases my damage is bad planning? Did you read my comment at all or are you just throwing some random criticism just to feel good about yourself?
@JustinAllen-pr4oq
@JustinAllen-pr4oq 3 ай бұрын
I think the argument would be if a mechanic that could potentially make you have to dodge/move out of it then hold your rotation till you see if that mechanic happens to you or not the blast if it doesn't. Every single melee class has to do this with a small exception to maybe ret. Example being. If a ability that requires me to move out of range and targets 5 people happens in 5 seconds(and this isn't enough time to do this part of the rotation.) Then pause ur rotation till you see what happens.
@Marcelo-0000
@Marcelo-0000 3 ай бұрын
@@JustinAllen-pr4oq that's the main problem. Pausing the rotation to see if you'll have to move or not, which means losing damage. Even in m+ this also happens, I've seen situations where everyone used their movement abilities to rush forward after a couple of chain pulls and I'm forced to glide because I've used everything to do damage. I still haven't checked how it is playing in this expansion, but this has been a problem with havoc since the dawn of mover builds. It feels cool AF to use vengeful retreat or fel rush to dodge a mechanic, but I can't do it because it will break my rotation.
@JustinAllen-pr4oq
@JustinAllen-pr4oq 3 ай бұрын
@@Marcelo-0000 but literally every class has this problem arguably with less available options for movement. Pausing may be the wrong move but you can switch to a simple filler if you aint trying to get screwed out of some of you cd uptime. But again. This is an everyone problem. We got effectively 4 different movement abilities outside of glide. We also have nether. Most classes have 2 3 if they talent. Even in general rotation we still have a extra dash for emergencies due to the cd of our windows. Alot of our windows are pretty gracious outside of EB and eye beam meta. So it's not as bad as you make it seem imo
@trivial50
@trivial50 3 ай бұрын
Do you skip fel blade in the opener? It is is the opener list but you didnt mention it
@Havik327
@Havik327 3 ай бұрын
Been playing FS all expansion. Was dreading playing AR in raid as the designated DH in my guild so this is great news.
@THEYDONTKNOWMESON111
@THEYDONTKNOWMESON111 3 ай бұрын
any WA packs for FS havoc thats nice? or is there not much to track? Need to watch this video
@konstantinoszoupalis8449
@konstantinoszoupalis8449 3 ай бұрын
What I'm wondering is this. ON ST if you want to always have inertia buff for your EYE Beam and Essensce break combo you need to use the immo aura only before eye beam essence combo is that right ?
@iltoro9400
@iltoro9400 3 ай бұрын
don't we wanna Sigil for the buff in the eye beam rotation? after IA i guess
@omgitsalex4791
@omgitsalex4791 3 ай бұрын
hey jedith i have a demonhunbter friend whos using inertia buffs on the eyebeam and he says he out dpsing this opener. Not saying anything bad just wanted to see what your opinion on inertia procs being spent on eye beam are.
@zordielyfe
@zordielyfe 3 ай бұрын
Great video as always. When did these changes go into effect?
@giorgospoulios9658
@giorgospoulios9658 3 ай бұрын
Is this for raid or for mythic plus and dungeons?
@dimchriste36
@dimchriste36 3 ай бұрын
Raid build
@giorgospoulios9658
@giorgospoulios9658 3 ай бұрын
@@dimchriste36 ty
@BenJonesart
@BenJonesart 3 ай бұрын
gonna be iffy sometimes in getting that first death sweep within the initiative window but it should be doable, glad i was already doing felscarred
@sleeplessguardian
@sleeplessguardian 3 ай бұрын
i quiet didnt understand what the macro does? 4:32, when i use that macro he just goes metamorphosis. nothing else
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what it does. It makes you meta in place rather than having to target where you land your meta. Vengeful retreat then press that macro
@sleeplessguardian
@sleeplessguardian 3 ай бұрын
@@Jedithtv ahhh dude, didnt Even notice💀 thanks !
@chrismartyniuk5725
@chrismartyniuk5725 3 ай бұрын
@Jedithtv Thanks for the video, subscribed. The opener here matches wowhead guide but the rotation part doesn't match the APL listed on wowhead for fel scarred single target. Just wondering if the rotation mentioned here is optimal or the one on wowhead?
@demonslayer2423
@demonslayer2423 3 ай бұрын
There is a demon build were we go all in on the chaos damage and procing demon surges and it hits like a nuke
@tiagopassarela
@tiagopassarela 3 ай бұрын
I hate having to use vengeful retreat during the rotation. It should be a defensive ability only
@cemremamik7207
@cemremamik7207 3 ай бұрын
fell rush too, those 2 should only be defensive or movement talents
@TeMAC59
@TeMAC59 3 ай бұрын
If you only want to stand still and smash rotation buttons havoc is just not for you my friends. There are plenty other specs in the game that you want havoc to be
@Xynth22
@Xynth22 3 ай бұрын
Same, and that is why I just use the non movement variants. Thankfully they aren't that far behind on overall DPS. Just not quite as bursty.
@BunnyAce
@BunnyAce 3 ай бұрын
@@TeMAC59 it's the only class in the game where you have to use mobility to do more damage, it could be interesting but in reality it's annoying. Not all class identity is good class identity, just because you are different doesn't mean it's good. Looking at wow's past it's possible that this stuff won't be part of dh at some point so some people can hope, don't tell them they shouldn't play dh if they don't like it, there are other reasons they like dh.
@TeMAC59
@TeMAC59 3 ай бұрын
@@BunnyAce Makes no sense to me. I wouldnt play anything that annoys me. Anyways you can switch mains til the day you can enjoy it
@OldManDoom
@OldManDoom 3 ай бұрын
Oh how the worm has turned. Fel-scarred enjoyers from the get go are living life. It is good to see
@Paeddl
@Paeddl 3 ай бұрын
One thing that feels really odd is abyssal gaze not giving Demon surge for Death sweep and Annihilation. I dont know the numbers but it feels more worth to press it after Meta ends then inside it
@TeMAC59
@TeMAC59 3 ай бұрын
Yea it felt better to hold 3rd Eye beam until meta expires or for another packs. You are not alone my friend
@bojnebojnebojne
@bojnebojnebojne 3 ай бұрын
By waiting for Meta to end, u loose out on the empowered Eyebeam (Abyssal Gaze), it's not Abyssal Gaze anymore if u exist the meta window, which makes u lose a Demonsurge proc. Not only that, the order is also tied to our Student of Suffering Buff, which you get when u cast Sigil of Flame / Doom. You do not want to miss out on casting Eyebeams during that buff window, Eyebeam hits really hard now unlike last expansion.
@Galrukh
@Galrukh 3 ай бұрын
@@bojnebojnebojne you only get 1 demonsurge proc per ability, so the trick is to eyebeam, do the 2 empowered abilities, Meta, do the 5 empowered abilities and then wait for meta/demonform to end before you eyebeam again so you get another 2 demon surges. Due to the absolutely borked aoe of Eyebeam (it gets much worse even at 2 targets) the buffed damage from Abyssal Gaze is nowhere near what 2 demon surges can do. This means that Shattered Destiny is not worth taking which is super weird considering the hero spec is all about demonform.
@bojnebojnebojne
@bojnebojnebojne 3 ай бұрын
@@Galrukh Well i'm talking about M+ not target dummy rotations. Not only do u lose out on the quite substantial mastery buff that Doom give you through the Fel-Scarred talent Student of Suffering, you also loose out on the dmg that he Student of Suffering buff gives the Demonsurge proc you would have gotten by using Abyssal Gaze within meta. So in with Jedith's stats, you lose out on roughly 30% extra dmg to both Demonsurge and Abyssal Gaze / Eyebeam dmg. ´Not only that, by waiting you are delaying seconds of which you could get another eyebeam in the future. Meaning Less casts over time = Less Demonsurges in total = less damage overall.
@myst1cify
@myst1cify 3 ай бұрын
Awesome guide, cheers! Looking forward to M+ guide now =)
@spyroskokkosis4014
@spyroskokkosis4014 2 ай бұрын
How do you make your mouse with that cursor effect like fel? Please help
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 2 ай бұрын
Addon called cursor trail
@Fleshrat
@Fleshrat 3 ай бұрын
vengeful retreat into eyebeam is so poggers
@Idkidkidkidk456
@Idkidkidkidk456 3 ай бұрын
We have any info how much less no mover builds sim with this?
@blerp6675
@blerp6675 3 ай бұрын
So when does this go live?
@psjpocco
@psjpocco 3 ай бұрын
you didn't even watch a fucking minute of the video. press repeat
@derpataur1162
@derpataur1162 3 ай бұрын
Great video, Is it a significant DPS loss to cut Fel Rush out of the DPS rotation? Or for that matter, is there version of this that doesn't rely on it that still does competitive damage? Fel Rush feels so much better as a utility to dodge mechanics or get around quickly. Also, playing with DH's who use Fel Rush to DPS is kind of annoying cause they end up spreading debuffs around/hitting others with negative effects that have been placed on them... also when I use it, I find I almost always either endanger myself or overshoot enemies with it and have awkward positioning issues afterwards, or it feels like I'm losing time trying to pre-position myself so that it feels less bad after I use Fel Rush. I love the mobility the spec has, and using vengeful retreat/felblade or Vengeful Retreat into Meta feels pretty sweet. It's just Fel Rush that feels super sketchy to me.
@wolfpredatorX2
@wolfpredatorX2 3 ай бұрын
Aldrachi just feels more fun to me and less to worry about. I'm also not a super hardcore raider or dungeon pushers but idk. I like it simple enough and I don't ever really have a problem getting sould fragments
@wax89
@wax89 Ай бұрын
i have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that we vengeful retreat before eye beam and waste that increased crit strike from initiative. Feels verrry clonky also to not fel rush to spend unbound chaos before eye beam on cast number 6 in the rotation
@wax89
@wax89 Ай бұрын
i'm guessing we want inner demon from cast number 9 to fall under inertia from fel rush at number 7.
@romerus6087
@romerus6087 3 ай бұрын
6:25 You can easily macro both Vengeful retreat and eye beam to use both with only one bind. /use Vengeful Retreat /use Eye Beam
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't do that. Because you don't want to VR every time you press Eye Beam / you don't want to Eye Beam every time you VR So you'd need seperate key binds anyways and you're just creating an extra bind for yourself
@romerus6087
@romerus6087 3 ай бұрын
@@Jedithtv I did it, but it is a diff keybind. I have one for Eye beam, One for Retreat, and one for both. It is a turnaround for anyone with difficulty using both. In my case I have Eye beam in shift+1 and retreat in shift+spacebar. (don't judge my keybinds, they work for me xD )
@antoninep.2328
@antoninep.2328 3 ай бұрын
Just lost to one in PvP arena and they had an Devastor Evoker on their team. Me (Undead Frost DK) and the Warrior Orc got our tails handed to us!
@PQPhotography
@PQPhotography 3 ай бұрын
I had pretty much switched over to Ret Pally but started playing my Havoc and find myself really enjoying. Now I’m torn 🤣. Pleasant problems
@evilcat542
@evilcat542 3 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if blizz is gonna come with a fix for precise sigil making it impossible to use sigil during meta with fel scarred hero talent?
@hamoru1
@hamoru1 3 ай бұрын
this is raid ST build or can be used in m+?
@borisuzbrdica3029
@borisuzbrdica3029 3 ай бұрын
Is there a raid build for fel scarred?
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
It’s literally in the video…
@borisuzbrdica3029
@borisuzbrdica3029 3 ай бұрын
@@Jedithtv i am sorry brother...
@TheMrsmartiekid
@TheMrsmartiekid 3 ай бұрын
Played havoc for a few xpacs now, truly the class has become so unfun to play
@cesky_dh
@cesky_dh 3 ай бұрын
Is this a ST only build? or can i use it for AoE also? thx for the info having a hard time :0
@LetnaX
@LetnaX 3 ай бұрын
I'm doing this opener but then i can't sustain my damage. 950k-1m damage for single target with opener but then i'm down to 500k. I'm using my Fel Blade, Chaos Strike and Blade Dance after the opener. If i had sigil of flame and immo aura, i'm using my fel rush to inertia then chaos strike, blade dance too. When my eye beam up, im using my essence break with that. Sometimes I get completely confused while trying to avoid the hits of creatures during the dungeon :D. Openers is really easy but sustaining is really hard for me.
@ugurkarabulut8598
@ugurkarabulut8598 2 ай бұрын
Why we dont use eye beam with inertia buff
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv Ай бұрын
In aoe you do. In ST it’s worth more to buff death sweep and annihilation with inertia
@bojnebojnebojne
@bojnebojnebojne 3 ай бұрын
Solid vid as always! Question: This talent build ain't for M+ is it? Feel like it's hard dropping Ragefire in M+? Even though Demonsurge among our top dmg sources, the Ragefire build have just as many Demonsurge's as this build? Like for prio dmg i can see this being better sure.
@Ambabss
@Ambabss 3 ай бұрын
@jedithtv what would you change for m+?
@TheJayH
@TheJayH 3 ай бұрын
So once again DH is doing great as always. Whats the constant worry then
@ysera6072
@ysera6072 3 ай бұрын
Chaos theory is producing green bars either side of my character, I don't remember that happening before. Does anyone know how to get rid of them? It isn't a weakaura or something in elvui. AFAIK there is no mod that is causing it to exist.
@beatrizrflorencio
@beatrizrflorencio 3 ай бұрын
Nice video? This is a work of art! Thanks
@ashread6936
@ashread6936 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the help 😊
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
Happy to help
@danielfallgren5411
@danielfallgren5411 3 ай бұрын
@jedith I tried this in a dungeon yesturday and my dmg was so bad 😅 I'm obvisouly are doing something really wrong, I guess I have to practise the rotation. Maybe you wanna make a video on it?
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
Because it’s not meant for dungeons dude.. I straight up say in the video multiple times - SINGLE TARGET RAID
@pedrocastanho
@pedrocastanho 3 ай бұрын
im so happy i was able to discover this rotation by myself thank you and keep up the good work
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@olorin9654
@olorin9654 3 ай бұрын
Love your guides! i can do a no mover build pls?
@Juzhou
@Juzhou 3 ай бұрын
idk what im doing wrong ... following the build ... in raid im still stuck at 700k dmg avg being like last dps ( ilvl 607)
@jawy1981
@jawy1981 3 ай бұрын
I have a problem, I sims 650k 585 fel-s st inerzia, but on dummy I can’t even close to do that dmg, and I do all what you just say in video, in aoe(5 target dummy) fel-s sims 1,6mil but I sustain 1mil, confronting sims vs details all my spell are in a right order but do 20% less dmg on dummy details that sims says es…annihilation sims 288k average but on details it’s 130k and so on for almost all spell, I don’t understand how I can improve it if all spell are in right order (details vs sims) means I’m doing a pretty decent rotation so I’m in trouble
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
you're probably simming with all raid buffs
@jawy1981
@jawy1981 3 ай бұрын
@@Jedithtv nope i keep just chaos b....i m going to dh discord hope someone can help me :(
@Quiny_C
@Quiny_C 2 ай бұрын
need that ui setup
@moistqt
@moistqt 2 ай бұрын
How can i copy your ui and weakauras? 😢
@Sile
@Sile 3 ай бұрын
I just play WoW very casually now so I thought, ah.. I'll try Demon Hunter. It's supposed to be very easy, everyone says it's for 'noobs' etc. I'll kick back and play that. Opener: 20 fucking steps before the 'normal priority'.
@ootsie194
@ootsie194 3 ай бұрын
@@Sile yeah you got lied to. Sheep mentality in the community loves to state things when they have no real understanding of what they're talking about. DH hasn't been that basic class for beginners for a couple of expansions now. Maybe check out fury warrior mate. It's simple and great fun, it's just very fast paced so I hope you have strong hands!
@Sile
@Sile 3 ай бұрын
@@ootsie194 I like fury, played it in DF. Just gonna level DH to 80 and I'll get onto Warrior
@dwseagle17
@dwseagle17 3 ай бұрын
These openers are ridiculous. With VR cancel macros into meta. How is this a normal rotation blizz? And 20 steps later we can play the game. Min/maxing is great but this is complicated af and is keeping me away from a spec I love. Everyone used to give us a hard time for being a 2 button rotation, but those comments came from people not playing and enjoying the spec. That didn’t mean you needed to change it into this monstrosity.
@dariominiello9934
@dariominiello9934 3 ай бұрын
@@dwseagle17 most classes are like this rn lol everyone is bloated
@dwseagle17
@dwseagle17 3 ай бұрын
@@dariominiello9934 I can even deal with the bloat if it wasn’t for all the mini burst windows and the flipping backwards to get this buff to fel rush off a cliff to get this one. It’s just too many pieces to a puzzle stack on top of one another to make it fun anymore. I’m not saying it needs to be brain dead, but that’s a lot of plates to spin
@jam3rs
@jam3rs 3 ай бұрын
@@dwseagle17 tbh I really like this about DH and the spec. I prefer a complicated high skill ceiling rotation over an easy one but that's just me
@Dras7
@Dras7 3 ай бұрын
Initiative is the only one that sucks because it’s a stupid backflip. But yea it’s so dumb to have 3 (4 if you count demonic) stacked 5-8s massive buffs where you need to fit your burst. Like missing 1 gcd makes you lose so much overall damage it’s nonsense.
@nillsthefunexpert2571
@nillsthefunexpert2571 3 ай бұрын
@@Dras7 initiave and fell rush shouldn't be part of our rotation, it's movement abbilities to avoid raid or boss mechanics not to deal combat. That's my opinion at least.
@baned3497
@baned3497 3 ай бұрын
Looking great. But HARD. Can you make Mavro for these 19 stepps anyhow? Would be super usefull 😁
@ingy421
@ingy421 3 ай бұрын
our faith has finally paid off (jk we all knew FS was good) i was saying FS feels like what venthyr shouldve been
@dburnnzz
@dburnnzz 3 ай бұрын
GO VIRAL LETS GOOO
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
COUGH COUGH
@eiksman
@eiksman 3 ай бұрын
20 Buttons opener for a 35+ year old average playerbase. No thanks😂
@nwheil
@nwheil 3 ай бұрын
@eiksman Man this is so true, I grt made fun of in my group for playing the "1hand" class. But it has one of the most complicated openers and rotation. Easy to play hard to master has never been more true for a class. Arcane mage is easier lol
@zeil2ify
@zeil2ify 3 ай бұрын
100% with you here. i stick to ret pala and fury warrior :D
@eiksman
@eiksman 3 ай бұрын
I will go with frost dk this time
@zuluhawk
@zuluhawk 2 ай бұрын
Yea I want to play Demon Hunter but on some fights all the moving around you do I end up killing myself moving into something bad or fel rushing off something, oh well.
@Achachucha
@Achachucha 2 ай бұрын
I'm 38, i learned it after 2 raid weeks. Its alot, but keeping a note and the repetition got me there.
@jakeshrable5465
@jakeshrable5465 3 ай бұрын
Soooo... we weren't able to tell Fel-Scarred shit on Aldrachi without someone pointing out the sim was wrong? xDDDDDD you silly gooses.
@katarzynakoti4154
@katarzynakoti4154 3 ай бұрын
Thanks ❤
@cpljaide
@cpljaide 3 ай бұрын
Great, Aldrachi feels horrible to play.
@KyoCamui
@KyoCamui 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Rotation guide for AOE please
@jefjay8339
@jefjay8339 3 ай бұрын
The talent tree you showed in the video is only for ST, how viable would it be for everything? im a casual gamer and just want to play one playstyle
@Dan-iy2nr
@Dan-iy2nr 3 ай бұрын
Mannnnn your going to get it nurfed when all the other demon hunter creators copy your video and word gets out 😂 I like your content btw you put out a lot of useful info 👍🏻
@kocho5612
@kocho5612 3 ай бұрын
Voodooooo you are awesome!
@Jedithtv
@Jedithtv 3 ай бұрын
I am jedith
@Gear1211
@Gear1211 3 ай бұрын
Man you guys were gaslighting us that DH is shit
@WhataboutBingo
@WhataboutBingo 3 ай бұрын
Instructions not clear: cat stuck in toaster.
@chc2650
@chc2650 3 ай бұрын
It kinda sounds like hes trolling with how complicated this all sounds
@kaylankimball
@kaylankimball 3 ай бұрын
Havoc is my only level 78 dps that can keep up with level 70s in dungeons 😂
@guyston684
@guyston684 3 ай бұрын
Hey awesome guide havoc looks quite fun rn, could someone please share the AoE build also?
@michaelbrewer2411
@michaelbrewer2411 3 ай бұрын
unless they lower the orb collection to 3 im not going back to Aldrachi reaver
@myzri3557
@myzri3557 3 ай бұрын
Great instructional, even a dummy like me understood
@zuiderzee5
@zuiderzee5 3 ай бұрын
training myself to not do essb -> sweep -> VR/meta -> sweep is going to take effort. muscle memory :
@wemakeyourage6824
@wemakeyourage6824 2 ай бұрын
didnt know eminem had longer hair and was playing wow
@EdMane
@EdMane 3 ай бұрын
No mover build ftw!
@tekkaoz
@tekkaoz 3 ай бұрын
Oh thank god I don't have to play AR... what were they thinking making that abomination?
@Elejn_D
@Elejn_D 3 ай бұрын
In my opinion it would be cool to: Return of talent "first of the illidari" as choice node with demonic New single target high dps ability costs max furry +cdr (similar to furry warrior rampage) as choice node with glaive tempest
@CoffeeTheFreshmaker
@CoffeeTheFreshmaker 3 ай бұрын
tbh reaver should just proc the glaive on retreat
@neojng
@neojng 3 ай бұрын
ALL HAIL ILIDAN I CAN DROP MY ROGUE
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