Havoc DH IS BACK! We Weren’t Forgotten for Patch 11.1

[@wrathkingodm1419]

Its definitely great changes , however i feel like the spec has so much more potential, it's kinda killing me . For example not having an entire part of the spec tree dedicated to blade dance is criminal imo

[@slaapri]

I feel many of these should be simply baseline, at this point.

[@AmandaPelland]

Yes!!! I seen the podcast you had with Quazii !! I'm so happy for Havoc!!

[@Raz_Games_]

So excited because this is what we actually asked for was the Dragonflight S3 tier bonus! I don't mind the getting rid of AMN tbh, it sounds like the rest of the changes make up for it. Some of the most fun I ever had in WoW was Season 3 of Dragonflight, coincidentally that was also my first time getting KSH, so I cannot wait for Undermined.

[@justiceblood9612]

Jed it’s been too long I’ve taken a break from wow since like early season 1 but now you wanting me to come back cause havoc looks great. One thing that hasn’t changed is your fantastic video and guide making. Thanks for all your service lol I would not hit 3k io without you lol!!!! Keep it up!!

[@EllionGrey]

8:29 I might be misremembering, but the dragon flight iteration didn’t use a throw glaive charge. It’s just supposed to throw additional glaives when you blade dance.

[@Jedithtv]

It did use a charge

[@rpalmz4682]

Lets go being able to eyebeam more often is going to feel so good for those packs in dungeons that the tank seems to stop pulling when your eyebeam is up and you don't want to send it again because the next pack will be 5x bigger.

[@fifthhorseman1632]

So you clearly have no clue how to actually play a dungeon but go ahead and blame the tank you guys really just cannot take responsibility for yourselves at all can you you do realize there's this thing called threat then when havoc or devastation burst the tank scrambles to hold aggro. It's funny how tanks got f***** the hardest this expansion but we're the only ones not crying and complaining while the DPS have gotten their jobs easier and easier is even easier because you guys cried and complained like children again

[@GAMESFORKIDSTV]

Stop flaming. Hold aggro.

[@rpalmz4682]

@ Lol I actually mostly tanked because havoc sucked this season, and tanks were exceptionally bad this tier because of the increased difficulty for them. I wasn't even really directly mad at the way tanks pulled i just found havoc less fun when my CDS didn't line up for my random pug tanks. Seek help please for how mad you got over nothing

[@JohnnyFiction]

Thanks for keeping everyone informed

[@GAMESFORKIDSTV]

Will we be able to rank on higher keys with the meta classes or not ? I mean on keys upper than +12

[@FelFireGazeTV]

Thanks for video man! This Cycle of Hatred design must be the clumsiest thing I' ve seen in a loooong time.

[@brentstoddart2474]

Can u recommend a good build to test both hero trees on ptr?

[@VanHelsing248]

I not so sure if this is actually a buff, or they just fixing the dmg loss cause they took away "Any Means Necessary".. first I way hyped but now i just feels like havocs geting pushed to "play felaura or f*** off" I mean it kida feels wrong to put all the talentpoints into the filler abilitys and the core havoc abilitys are lucky if you have them in your bar..

[@Illidonkers]

These changes are a slap in the face to the feedback that was given all of df and tww

[@hobosnake1]

I think the changes were made with a full rework in mind. They said classes wouldn't get reworked during tww in any major way.

[@Illidonkers]

@ I’ve heard this cope for multiple xpacs in a row by this point

[@MrTmoney8777]

Yaaas!!! Mastery builds ftw! Gonna watch those number fly across my screen again lol

[@Hasse2k]

Nice, would be awsome to have a 100% metaform uptime spec with the 20sec eyebeam :D but sadly it seems you take very few of the top talents, will that be our 11.1 with only 1 of them chosen

[@slaapri]

I'm curious to know how Screaming Brutality will function with A. Reaver mechanics. WIll the empowered glaive be triggered by it or do we have to manually activate it?

[@Jedithtv]

Does not throw reavers glaive

[@slaapri]

@@Jedithtv Neat. Thanks.

[@96sadeyes]

please make a M+ run video with these updates :)

[@briljin]

Not going to complain about finally getting changes but this is mostly adjustments to counter AMN being removed. Would be nice to see them focus a bit more on AR, it still has all the same issues it does on live that make it unpopular to play.

[@Jedithtv]

If that's all you got from these changes then there's a lot you're overlooking

[@ennodar]

It's not just that. You basically have 1 more talent point to use on Screaming Brutality instead of AMN and you get all the other spells scaled for the removal of AMN. It's definitely a buff for DHs for now

[@briljin]

@@ennodar I wasn't talking about the all the changes they have made. I was talking about THIS set of changes. These are almost entirely about fixing the DPS loss from removing AMN. The rest are bug fixes to broken abilities, the biggest was being over charged when you used BD and had SB.

[@TheDovahkiinn]

Thoughts on new stat priority I assume Mastery won’t be second now. Hopefully not 2 different sets for M+/Raid.

[@NaTodai]

Am I misunderstanding cycle of hatred, or is eye beam really a 20 second cooldown (at max stacks) until you go 60 seconds without using it?

[@xXluckyjoe7Xx]

Until 60 seconds out of combat

[@peace957]

These changes are great but it still feels like havoc is falling behind with all of the other changes for other classes. Every buff for other class puts havoc further behind. This patch feels like 1 step forward while the other classes might be taking 3.

[@somebody1337ness]

Yay for havoc, we need more veangeance buffs tho, or at least tank threat buff

[@bunnylee9202]

Thanks for the video. I was vengeance but now I want to come back to havoc ❤

[@taliano6965]

Havoc is back?? Where

[@dburnnzz]

Glad to see that havoc will be S tier and instant invites to any pug M+ going forward. Thanks Jed

[@Jedithtv]

You bet! - this reply was crafted by A.I

[@Spanakopitaa]

No changes to Aldrachi spec is wild

[@oneaxetwofriends3527]

call me when shadow priests will be mantioned in a patch note :D lole , still sitting in DF

[@madgarry6305]

oh finally !!

[@arcaneviolet3188]

Podcast?

[@S3Ri0usOG]

i like how people see "dmg buffs" and they going crazy. Meanwhile the real reason of classes feeling bad and not getting picked is group utility and defensives. When the wow community realize that ooga booga damage is not everything then some real change may come.

[@yasinaiden6588]

Love u jedith. Plz make builds and sims video faster 😂im so hyped

[@christiangill6344]

I started tanking with vengeance this expac since i can't get into pug keys as havoc, and it has been alright. Blizzard obviously knows what they're doing. They neglect havoc on purpose so dh mains starts to tank 😂😂

[@Kenjataimu888]

all you needed to do is make quazzi make a vid for DH and poof blizzard notices.

[@jcvm8915]

niceeeeeeee

[@GiebsB61]

But what it really changes? We upgrade from D to C tier ? :D

[@Jedithtv]

Tier lists are fake

[@naalir6120]

Its good start... But defensives are still aassy...

[@moisesleppa7942]

Maybe

[@Bruhnwhat]

Can I return to the game now 😂😂

[@WilkzZz1]

anyone else see the 666 item level, he's cursed!

[@Dras7]

Meh, I still find this version of dh just a more boring version of 10.2. AFI for intertia in ST was fun and still easy to get thanks to the procs.

[@netherialdreyrimani]

that eyebeam change is huge.

[@kingmadsen1]

I like your videos but wish ppl would stop say everyone love DF S3 tire set

[@Jedithtv]

I'm just speaking the truth of the people. Not saying I personally loved it

[@flyingraijin5867]

i know dh community loves doomin but i think havoc looks better for s2 than in s1

[@Jedithtv]

100%

[@Arntor-kf9hi]

I've been wanting to get back into DH for so long but didn't like the way it's played so far in TWW, these changes are great though and DH is nowy #1 pick for main going into S2.

[@zenith_journey]

Bro what, this patch was literally the definition of “removing something and then being praised for putting it back in”. They removed AMN and took a month to add the compensation parts. There is no creativity being poured into this class.

[@Miguelchalupa]

we are back! just liek Trump!

[@atrop19]

These "damage buffs" are mostly just compensation for the removal of AMN. Eye Beam going below a 30 sec cd is worthless as long as Student of Suffering remains a 30 sec cd. These changes are basically worthless. We need actual talent changes that make sense, unlike the CoH change that went from bad to bad.

[@darrenzzz426]

I personally despise the gameplay lean into immo aura and its talents, its visually dull, boring, uninspired, and other than the obscene Fury generation, not a good feeling button to press (hit feedback-wise). I just wish they would lean into some creative fel spells rather than it…

[@riiann]

I'm sorry Jedith and anyone excited with these changes, but that's still not it. What they did to CoH is terrible, they keep trying to avoid a flat CDR to make it more interactive for no reason at all and keep pushing towards this dumb align-all-your-CDs gameplay. It's still a terrible design and it does not look like it's going to get better during TWW.

[@olsonbrandon91]

it's not ALDRAKI it's ALDRA CHI CHIIIIIII lol

[@Jedithtv]

t'is not. We have in-game voice dialogue proof

[@cr1spbeatzplz]

This does absolutely not put havoc in A or even B tier, still C at best

[@Jedithtv]

Tier lists are dumb

[@Arntor-kf9hi]

Imagine playing a spec because it's fun and something you enjoy and not because some guy on the internet assigned a letter rank to it using an excel spreadsheet. Couldn't have that now.

[@jamalthompson8090]

@@cr1spbeatzplz that sounds like a you problem

[@cr1spbeatzplz]

@@Arntor-kf9hi imagine playing a dps spec that isn't meta... I enjoy playing the game, not waiting 30+ mins for a queue

[@Raz_Games_]

@@cr1spbeatzplz There's a TON of communities and guilds out there. Join a community or guild and get a team to run with.

[@milenkomimica4115]

This changes almost nothing, we are gonna still be at the botom and getting rejected un pugs. We need a serious rework not Just some tweaking numbers. Also, I still waiting for the compensation of the removal of by any means necesary.

[@Jedithtv]

I guess you didn’t watch the video 😂

[@heshamhelal2015]

you never learn DONT SAY HUUUUGE BUFF OR ITS BACK OR WHATEVER YOU SAY IN YOUR VIDIO !!!!!!

[@Jedithtv]

That’s not how it works 😂

[@michaelstellitano2810]

Lol

[@Jedithtv]

But I’ll change it for you

[@heshamhelal2015]

@ 😘

[@Skuggi88]

too bad Activist Blizz employees are too busy calling for the death of people they don't agree with instead of concentrating on games.

[@VizerPS]

found the weirdo