Jeffrey Herlings the FASTEST man to ever ride a dirtbike??

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[@Leggoeljefeblu]

Competitively Stewart attacked the track and is the fastest of all time. But Herlings is the new era of JS7

[@HeavyK_MXB]

I agree, I think if the goal was to go as fast as you can and set a lap time, Stewart would be on top. As far as going all out for 35 minutes I think herlings is the goat, I mean since he's been in mxgp, he's either won the championship or got hurt, no in between lol.

[@Tjes108]

James Stewart 2008 24-0. Watch the film of him. Especially at Millville. Fastest man on the planet. 30 minutes of domination.

[@HeavyK_MXB]

@@Tjes108 yeah but herlings wasn't out there, or Carmichael. It would've been bad on Stewart if he didn't go undefeated that year

[@TheShepdawg9]

​@@Tjes108Gee this is a dumb take. So one year earlier he wasn't in his peak, and two years later he was no longer in his peak? Carmichael was a superior outdoors rider in every way

[@JWPshenigans]

James Stewart rode a 125 faster than any human possibly could. It’s ignorant to try and suggest otherwise.

[@Shawn-ts4jw]

Ok, and what about 450's?

[@FirstorDirt]

Agreed I would watch him in the worst parts of RED BUD looking way out of control thru a rough section then set the kx125 in the perfect spot in the turn

[@RMZ298]

@@Shawn-ts4jw He was kind of already over racing at that point.

[@graffzon]

Can guarantee you that Herlings is faster on his 450 than js7 on his 125

[@roscowilliams7731]

I don't disagree but hear me out .. herlings has won every single championship he has actually completed.. and all the others he got injured and was unable to complete just think about that for a min he's a weapon

[@CR250rSMITH]

On a motocross track id put my money on Herlings, On a supercross track id say prime JS7

[@Yakubishyn_Maksym]

On a Supercross it is absolutely obviously that JS7 is faster xD The same as JH84 would destroy Stew in… Lommel

[@user-un5my5bw4j]

Villipoto was faster than js7 thats a fact and we all saw it

[@CR250rSMITH]

@@user-un5my5bw4j villopoto raced stewart when he was out of his prime. Kawi stewart was his prime

[@TheShepdawg9]

​@@CR250rSMITHthat's just not true. Unless you consider 23 years old to be 'out of prime'.

[@LilSebastian_]

Everyone copied Stewart… end of discussion.

[@johnh2349]

JS7 is the fastest guy ever. Everyone has copied him. Nobody is copying Herlings.

[@georgelynch6139]

Nobody can, nuff said

[@marksmith1676]

Not true. Herlings is a master in the sand and everyone knows the secret to being a World champion is doing well in the sand. So nearly everyone doing the GP’s base them selves at Lommel.

[@johnh2349]

@@marksmith1676 moving somewhere is not copying their style. Besides, we have Croom in Florida and everyone who comes to Florida rides Croom and it’s deeper sand than anywhere else in the world.

[@marksmith1676]

@@johnh2349 you didn’t mention anything about style you said copy. Maybe there’s deep sand in Florida but these racers are after the extreme roughness of the tracks not some billiard flat track

[@jackdempsey85]

Nobody can copy herlings because he's the only rider alive that can go that fast

[@Davinhomx]

Herlings is scared to go over to the US. Stfu with fastest ever. When him and roczen where both still in europe he got asswhooped by roczen all the time

[@marksmith1676]

Haters gonna hate!

[@DanielMartinez-dv5pm]

Ironman 2017, never forget.

[@daltonturner3113]

@@DanielMartinez-dv5pm The only guy trying to battle Herlings was Marvin and he was giving Herlings a lot of trouble. Tomac has bested Marvin every time on Marvins best days, Tomac was in championship cruise mode as not only was it the end of the season but it was his to be first moto 450 championship.

[@DanielMartinez-dv5pm]

@@daltonturner3113 Jeffrey has beaten Eli in a few MXoN, 2018 comes to mind.

[@daltonturner3113]

@@DanielMartinez-dv5pm Yes he did, that's when the MXGP officials drenched red bud in water turning it into a mud race where nobody was even jumping the Leap. Tomac got his redemption on that track last year in a mud race at MXON 2022

[@JamieJohnson-vg4dm]

Yeah James Stuart is the fastest guys on a dirt bike

[@shanemckinnen3100]

Carmichael went 10 for 10 in pro motocross championships with an 80% win ratio and 2 perfect seasons - however you define fastest ever seems like it's him and the proof is in the results

[@gutika113]

Results have more to do with the field of competition more so than speed of the ride. Not saying you’re wrong, I just think there’s a difference

[@NevadaSmith2]

RC says JS7 is the fastest to ever ride a dirt bike

[@powersportsenthusiast1986]

@@gutika113 i'll add to your point that staying healthy, speed, fitness, competition all adds up to titles. pure speed is only part of the equation

[@wirepros1207]

Facts Villopoto was pretty impressive as well. But Carmichael's record speaks for itself 🔥

[@NoVeilShow]

What are we talking about? Success? Carmichael is the GOAT. Speed? Stewart is the GOAT. There are different dimensions to this, winning championships is VERY different than speed.

[@defconone681]

Hell No Stewart in his prime was faster!!!

[@karlmason6145]

Stewart in his prime couldn't beat Stephen Everits let alone Hurrlings Americans just think they are the best but in the last 15 years they have been getting beaten by the world championship guys more often.

[@defconone681]

Your talking about one race and I know for a fact stew beat everts over seas before iv seen it, Stewart in his prime would beat anyone out there maybe not in one event cause stuff happens but in several events he would be on top more then not!

[@Thudmoto]

We'll never get to see it...But James was = or > anyone.....Ive seen them both on their good days....& I wish we could time travel & match them up.......both total super men on motocross bikes.

[@laitonpope8204]

I’d love to see him come over this year and try a round at like the wick or something because Eli on that yami was mind boggling to see last summer

[@filipm8094]

Herlings in decent form smokes tomac on southwick, not even fair to tomac. Tomac is great but honestly u can’t mention him in the same sentence as herlings when it comes to sand

[@Bodie2020]

I’m a huge Herlings fan. But when tomac let’s go and wants it idk it will be close. Most of time tomac is in manage mode. There were a few times he had Ricky and James stunned last year in outdoors.

[@advanceddiesel7766]

I PERSONALLY think Eli is slowing down just a SMIDGE in his older age

[@The_coachman_on_tour]

​@@advanceddiesel7766 you can't honestly believe that, surely?

[@user-un5my5bw4j]

No one stands with Herlings in outdoor. For him to come here on the tracks that are pampered is nothing for him compared to moto gp tracks that are totally knarley rutted with ridiculous breaking bumps. Those tracks are like unadilla was in the 90s

[@ricksmith7659]

All 3 riders in their prime and doesn't go down.. lol. Stewart wins

[@tacoenvy]

Jeffrey is fast but James is still the fastest, then I'd pick Eli because Eli in 2015 was absolutely unreal those first 3 rounds before he destroyed his shoulders with that crash. Beating top guys by a whole minute on a track we haven't seen that since.

[@2216sammy]

You saw Eli and Sexton doing that all year last year in outdoors , both were ahead by at least a minute over the rest of the field.

[@tacoenvy]

@@2216sammy It's completely different cause they were locked in a battle and pushing each other. While in 2015 Eli was just by himself absolutely destroying everyone. Many people including James himself have remarked in 2015 they have never seen anyone go that fast before like Eli was in 15. It was ridiculous.

[@joel387ktm]

Was a 1:32 gap to 2nd place in the second moto at hangtown

[@tacoenvy]

@@joel387ktm Yeah it was insane. Like Dungey said it was embarrassing getting beat like that, that bad by one dude.

[@2216sammy]

Fastest man alive my ass.

[@legotechnictrains8999]

Herlings back in form with a 1-1 win last weekend...

[@ShepardOfficial]

It's not just a question of objective speed. It's about the speed compared to the rest of the competition and to the technology they have to ride. You could argue that Herlings is technically a bit faster, but Stewart on a 125 specifically, was just insane. He made everyone else look like that were B class. And compared the technique at the time and skill that was known, he was so far ahead of his time. This is why he's he fastest man to ever throw a leg over a bike.

[@NoVeilShow]

Agreed, if young Stewart was on a 2023 yz450f, he’d make Eli look slow and have Herlings scratching his head. The things JS7 did were nearly inhuman and I think people forget how crazy it is to pull shit off on bikes that are probably only half as advanced as bikes are today.

[@advanceddiesel7766]

NAILED IT. In many peopale eyes..... if you want to be labeled the fastest man on earth, you gotta have a AMA championship!

[@ShepardOfficial]

@@advanceddiesel7766 exactly. That's why I feel so bad for Roczen. The man has arguably the best technique in the rhythm sections specifically. It's beautiful. But instead of everyone respecting the fact that he almost had his arm amputated and STILL was able to get back to championship speed, he's knocked on for not having a supercross championship. Anderson has one and he's WAY better than Anderson just to put it in perspective. He's like the Tony Ferguson of racing. Clearly championship material, he just couldn't ever put it together

[@mazza159]

Yea I still think Stewart and by looking at comments, it seems majority think that he is still the fastest ever to ride a motocross bike. Herlings/Tomac/Sexton on current newer bikes are technically probably going a bit faster now for 30 mins but relative to competition and bike tech would hand that title to Stew on the 125

[@Klockren9000]

You clearly never watched herlings in the 250class. 2012 won by over 2min to 2nd place. in more then 1 race. That's Herlings at 18years old before all his injuries.

[@ZimFarm24]

Raw speed, Stewart. Consistent speed, Carmichael. Supercross speed, Stewart.

[@TheShepdawg9]

...but Carmichael was faster than James outdoors? What is wrong with you people

[@EricvanDorp007]

Jeffrey Herling kick ass with the US riders and does exact the same as Raymond Dekkers from the Netherlands in Thailand... KING OF KINGS just Google and you know!

[@TheShepdawg9]

The amount of idiots that keep picking Stewart. Carmichael was faster than stewart outdoors, and he showed that frequently. Even his lap times were faster. Stewart only went undefeated in '08 cause the second best rider was a 34 year old Tim Ferry. 😅

[@HYDETREEWORKS]

I love how everyone is saying Herlings and Tomac. Herlings flat out said on this podcast that when Tomac is on no on can touch him he is flat out the fastest ever on a dirtbike. He said I can't touch Tomac when he is on and no one in any Era could

[@NoVeilShow]

Stewart would whip them both, who cares what Herlings thinks. He’s faster than Tomac but youd be stupid to think either beats Stew

[@HYDETREEWORKS]

@Perfect Inner Stewart was fast no doubt. I'm older I've been watching since early McGrath days. I love all those guys, but still think tomac is fastest. Go to a national and watch tomac ride, it's insane, and most the time don't seem possible. And why couldn't Herlings have an opinion he knows speed.

[@jimmyd5421]

He’s just saying that to be nice mate 😂

[@TheShepdawg9]

You're not that stupid, seriously. Herlings was being modest. He straight up beat Eli convincingly

[@Hwar600]

@@HYDETREEWORKSbut herlings beat him straight up and you can’t use the excuse it was the last race and he already had the championship . Every body knows Eli wants to be the best and when herlings came over he absolutely schooled Tomac , tomac rode out of his comfort zone and crashed?😂

[@nathanmcdonald1572]

Lol, "fastest rider ever" can't even handle Tim Gasjer. Hell, he couldn't even win with Gasjer out this weekend 😂 Herlings isn't even top 5 fastest riders of all time. He's not even the fastest rider in MXGP right now. James Stewart would blow his doors off and Carmichael would've whooped his ass just like he did to Everts

[@johnsinowitz9090]

Would love to see only Carmichael vs Sterlings vs Stewart all in their prime in 2 30 minute motors in Motorcross

[@dmurphy1578]

Herlings is amazing. He showed up and beat everyone on his first try.

[@wirepros1207]

On a day when Tomac had everything on the line to win the championship. Yeah, amazing...... lmao it was 1 race and you 🤡s act like it was a championship. Tomac beats the competition by over a minute when he is 100%. He was about to pass Herlings back in the first moto but made a mistake and went down then got told by his mechanics to just back it down and win the chip. That's why Herlings did what he did 2nd moto. But Herling fans wanna bring this race up like it means something.

[@jackdempsey85]

​@@wirepros1207 nobody beats herlings when he can stay on the bike

[@roscowilliams7731]

herlings is the best hands down ... just hear me out for a sec.. every championship he has completed he has won and the ones he hasn't won was because he got injured

[@roscowilliams7731]

@@wirepros1207 herlings once lapped the entire field on the sand in 2012 250 class .. and also every single season he has completed he as won .. I do think the 1v1 tomac and herlings will be a good watch I'm a big fan of both riders

[@sailingmurdina]

Jeffrey was the fastest ever but I remember Kenny Beating him in MX2 and I think if Kenny hadn't had his bad accident he would have been the best ever. Except maybe Jeffrey????

[@Unkownktm]

Best way to work out who is fastest is look at the history of lap times. It’s speculative to say Herlings is the faster ever.

[@viljampodra7987]

herlings dominated Eli in us and Herling was last after start but ended up 1st in US outdoors

[@Parko2017]

So who else has watched the return of the bullet...alot of discussion flying about herlings!

[@underthetrees4780]

Herlings is fast but if you can't keep it on two wheels and finish a season does it really count?

[@fredgarvinMP]

Yes, because we're talking about fastest.

[@ramseydbk1494]

@@fredgarvinMP then chase sexton

[@roscowilliams7731]

herlings has won every season he has finished

[@ramseydbk1494]

@@roscowilliams7731 yes in europe. also when he came to america and won i think he may have been the best then but not now

[@Certifiedshowoff]

Js7 in his prime vs herlings is the only way to find out

[@euroliter]

such a boring and pointless discussion who is the fastest MX rider

[@dannyb1991]

Right now head to head, ET3 > herlings.

[@KG-yc6cl]

Not even the fastest in Europe in his own generation.

[@gabrielgibson4355]

Stewart, Carmichael, then herlings.

[@raphadeering2873]

6:40 World world championship. R1.) Lommel R2.) Unadilla R3.) Trentino R4.) Matterly Basin R5.) Losail R6.) Leon R7.) Ww ranch R8.) Valencia R9.) Emilia Romagna R10.) Valkenswaard R11.) Muddy Creek R12.) Fox raceway R13.) Riola Sardo R14.) Switzerland IXS R15.) Assen R16.) Ironman R17.) Glen Helen R18.) Redbud R19.) Redbud 2 R20.) Glen Helen 2 R21.) Thailand R22.) Uddevella R23.) Ernee R24.) High Point R25.) Oryonlok R26.) Utah R27.) Charlotte Sx 13 rounds R1.) Cardiff R2.) Houston R3.) Paris U-Arena R4.) FoxBorough R5.) Geneva R6.) Toronto R7.) Nashville R8.) Orlando R9.) Tampa R10.) New Jersey R11.) Salt Lake City R12.) Las Vegas R13.) Anaheim

[@dkcampbell3]

Comparing riders is a fool's errand.

[@raphadeering2873]

1.) Hangtown 2.) Loket 3.) Glen Helen 4.) Thunder Valley 5.) High Point 6.) Villes Es Court 7.) Utah 8.) Glen Helen 2 9.) Matterly Basin 10.) Patagonia Argentina 11.) Thailand 12.) Muddy Creek 13.) Redbud 14.) Trentino 15.) Fraunfield 16.) Millville R17.) Assen R18.) Washougal R19.) Ernee R20.) Unadilla R21.)Valkenswaard R22.) Agueda R23.) Sevlievo R24.) Lommel R25.) Ironman R26.) Redsands R27.) Oryonlok R28.) Imola 29.) U Arena 30.) Houston 31.) Salt Lake City 32.) Geneva 33.) Tampa 34.) Melbourne 35.) New Jersey 36.) Atlanta Georgadome 37.) Toronto 38.) Daytona 39.) Las Vegas 40.) Anaheim

[@gawdszn302]

JS7 OT he did shit that others were scared to do time after time that’s what cost him championships but also why the fans love him so much

[@fredgarvinMP]

Need some Sebastain Tortelli in this conversation.

[@jackdempsey85]

Exactly ridiculously fast

[@wirepros1207]

Stewart, Carmichael, Villopoto, and Tomac are by far the fastest to ever ride a dirtbike! Herlings is fast but he will never earn my respect until he comes over to US and races for a championship.

[@jackdempsey85]

Just shows your arrogance! if you were a real fan you wouldn't talk so much nonsense.

[@cliftonpfleger9525]

Watch 2023 Hawkestone Park UK races yesterday dudes...

[@marksmith1676]

Give him a few races to get up to speed. He’s had a full season off don’t forget.

[@Parko2017]

Your takeing into account he's been injured the last year yea!?

[@BlueBallin_Mega]

Nobody attacked a track or went faster than stew, simply stew jumped shit on a track that nobody will or would do. That cant be accounted for

[@electrolytesplants6057]

I'm hoping Herlings races Southwick this year. He doesn't have a MXGP race that weekend. That would be sick Chase Eli Jett Herlongs and Fernandes. That would be a sick race.

[@darcyward2729]

Man you said you were going to make Tomac herlings happen?

[@speterman122]

Stew in his prime or 2015 Eli, or last year Eli & Sexton

[@chrisleeds4460]

Fastest man to crash and get hurt on a dirtbike.

[@MrCocky73]

As was Stewart,Tortelli,Rozen and Villapoto,it seems the faster you go theres more chance of an injury

[@spice3767]

Carmichael

[@poullinneberg1876]

Tim is 5 time world champ you must have ment 4 times in mxgp class

[@splitrockfence]

BUBBA

[@ryanselway7944]

Carmichael and Herlings in prime show down would be insane

[@NoVeilShow]

JS7 can beat anyone, anywhere. EXCEPT Herlings on a sand track. He may not be as fast as Stew, but that’s impressive in itself

[@graffzon]

Pretty much everyone inside top 5 is faster than js7/rc/Everts ever was. Better equipment, Better training schedule and better drugs

[@lobrow7661]

Absolutely love Tom's camera work. Sooooo good!!!

[@BlueBallin_Mega]

Let’s not go off the deep end here.

[@tumic551]

You wanna see it on Red Bud so Eli can have a chance you mean?

[@gekcee3266]

But cant finish a season.

[@powersportsenthusiast1986]

Larocco in 07 huh?

[@brianchurchil9200]

James is without doubt or question the most naturally gifted man ever to ride any motorcycle.... Carmichael and Hurlings are super motivated and determined, and without a doubt are among the most competitive athletes of any sport ever...... Tomac in beast mode Is untouchable by anyone.

[@EricvanDorp007]

Who the fuck is Tomac??????

[@EricvanDorp007]

Really I didn't know a month ago but I did not knew Herlings also and I am from the same country 🤣😂🤣😂Because of Herlings I am in contact with motorsport... I am more a F1 guy and love Max Verstappen...

[@dnicemj]

Is the JH vs ET still up?

[@ProfessionalLaborer]

Ahhhhh no..

[@joebrock2470]

Charmichael

[@multitablez7825]

You guys are talking about it.. it actually happened! Herlings won two from two heats! and beat tomac twice!!

[@2216sammy]

Tomac was in championship mode , you think he's really going to risk going all out just to beat Herlings . No chance in hell .

[@multitablez7825]

@@2216sammy Yeah even so, it's Tomac home tuft. Tomac still has the advantage, even if he's riding 80% and herlings 100%. Riding 100% on new track and field is risky. Herlings even crashed.

[@jackdempsey85]

​@@2216sammy he did go all out, crashed, then realised herlings is too fast!

[@nathancampbell2078]

​@jackdempsey85 wrong. Winning a first 450 title is far more important than some ego trip trying to beat herlings😂 you're stupid if you think otherwise

[@baylonjones3771]

TOOMMMYYYYYYYY

[@advanceddiesel7766]

IMHO, if Herlings wanted the title of fastest man on earth, he should have got an AMA championship or 2. Other wise, he is always just going to be the fastest man that never raced AMA....... to most Americans

[@GYPSYTALES]

Could you say the same thing about James or Eli never getting a MXGP title?

[@advanceddiesel7766]

@@GYPSYTALES I personally think the AMA has setup a far more diverse aspect of the sport (vs mxgp) using the indoor and ourdoor platforms. In the states, we have seen SOOOOOOOO many guys who DOMINATE outdoors but come up miserably short at indoors.... and visa'versa. I am NOT saying Eli is best orHerlings is best.... Evarts, Bubba, MC, etc... Im just saying, if you compete in what the AMA has to offer, its a great chance you will find out how fast a specific rider is in a much more diverse set of conditions. I have been religiously watching MXGP since the early 2000s, im not downplaying what yall have, AT ALL. Your ourdoors (I believe) is far more rigorous than what the AMA offers for outdoor competition. But the MXGP series does not (in my opinion) offer the vast diversity that the AMA series do. There arent to many things id like to se more than a Herlings vs Tomac championship contention go down. But, we are running out of time. The fellas are getting old on us !

[@TheSoaringEagle69]

James is without a doubt the fastest man alive. No question about it.

[@multitablez7825]

they have raced. youtube Jeffrey Herlings vs. Eli Tomac. Spoiler - herlings first time on track set fastest qualifying times. Then won 2 of 2 heats. Beating Tomac. Even the 2nd race, Herling crashed at start, then came back to win. There are levels, and now, the EU riders are a step above the AMA guys. Look at the EU tracks vs US tracks. it's a different sport.

[@2216sammy]

Tomac was in championship mode there's no way he was going to risk throwing away the chip just to whip Jeffery's ass.

[@herbcanter2114]

Herlings timed his appearance perfectly making sure to come and race when he knew Eli wouldn't be willing to throw away a championship by not taking any chances . If Herlings is so obsessed with Eli he needs to come at the very beginning of a season when there's a clean slate NOT when Eli's about to win his first SX title.

[@multitablez7825]

@@2216sammy ok, put it another way. If it was Herlings about to win mxgp in EU, and he needed a 6th finish or somthing, and tomac was over there for a race in EU on off season. Who would win? Thee is zero percent chance Tomac gets within rach of Herlings on a EU track. These EU riders are different, becase they grew up riding soft sand and insane ruts, tracks that never get maintained. In the US, the track is flat to start with! lol

[@alexdavies729]

@@multitablez7825 but Tomac has shown he can run the pace of herlings, sand track in Florida moto 1 Tomac in the lead,Herlings in 2nd with 24 minutes left in the moto and Herlings couldn’t run him down

[@TrickRacing]

Fastest is me

[@TrickRacing]

If herlings was the fastest ever he’d race the fastest ever. (Pro motocross) Him competing in mxgp is not enough to convince me until he does a full season of pro motocross

[@multitablez7825]

He's raced in pro monster motocross in states. he won both heats, even after crashing at the start on the 2nd. the crowd didnt like herlings, coz they are eli tomac fans. the crowed was so snobby to herling. also, the mxgp guys are faster than the states. The riders in the USA will NEVER reach euro riders. Have you seen the tracks US vs EU. EU is insane.

[@2216sammy]

@@multitablez7825 Total nonsense . US guys are equally fast and would even be faster if they could only practice MX not SX and MX which is worlds harder.