Jehovah's Witnesses - JT Life at Bethel Family Night Episode 7

[@southernbawselady7092]

Thanks JT for bringing us the good, the bad and the UGLY at bethel! @6:55...The Kingdom Hall was supposed to be dedicated to God and treated as holy. Now, you would definitely get counseled for going to a church service, church wedding, church funeral or your husband's paint business painting a church!! But if they sell a "holy" kingdom hall building to a church then that's ok!! Their hypocrisy is outstanding!!...They deserve a "Tony" award!! 🏆

[@triggawoods6888]

The lockers 😂😂😂😂 but I bet the electric slide is played at the reception 😂😂😂😂😂 I really do enjoy these Bethel stories.

[@daundrakennedy732]

I remember the electric slide in '88

[@superdave1263]

We had song and dance routines at the KH back in the 70’s. There was a Watchtower article that came out, if I’m not mistaken, regarding the use of Kingdom Halls and the circuit overseer raked us over the coals. JT, another fantastic video. Thanks

[@tmalone2530]

This is gold. Pure gold.

[@stevebenoit6649]

American idol. Watchtower idol.

[@michellem2042]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 good one Steve

[@stevebenoit6649]

@@michellem2042 the Jehovah's organization teaches that Jesus Christ came to destroy the law. But the truth is Jesus Christ came to fulfill the law. The law is found in Exodus chapter 20. We know it as the ten commandments. Thou shall have no idols before Me. Smack in the middle of the ten commandments is keep the Sabbath. So the Jehovah's witnesses discard the Sabbath, even though the scripture of Matthew 24 20. So IF the Jehovah's don't keep the commandments and follow the Sabbath, why should it surprise us that they bring idols into the temple. Idols were brought into the temple back in the old testament. Nothing about the Jehovah's organization surprise me! Nothing.

[@grammargoddessNYC]

steve benoit 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@prescotts.3235]

This is why many churches have multiple buildings. . . Love your "Life At Bethel" series!

[@chrishollister4833]

Its different for sure. They emphasize sugns and miracles instead of the gospel.

[@gbnomore3918]

Thanks JT & Lady Cee!! Tellin it like it is! Already one 👎😤🖐..."Stop exposing the hypocrisy of our beloved WhORGanization!!"

[@LivingNow]

Thanks JT for let JWs know like it "really" is at Bethel!

[@davidwicklin9943]

Loved Herbie Hancock's "Rock It"! Dressing like Rerun and dancin' like no tomorrow - right inside Bethel letting it all hang out! Nothing like a little lettin' loose and having a regular "family night" "festival to Jehovah" that even Aaron and Moses could be proud of!

[@sparklecanada0112]

Now I feel like breaking out my Soul Train DVDs and Dance My Day Away!👍👍📺🎼🎶🎶😊

[@ItWILLbeWONDERFUL_THERE]

Oy wow!!!! Those family nights sounded ...amazing. Fun at times and yet....odd. Thanks for sharing, JT.

[@sarahshiveley179]

Thank you so much! You are both very much appreciated!

[@dantoinettetaylor1663]

JT you are correct @ videos of the after parties at international conventions. Some JWs claim it's fake news. I've been in congregations where such concerts took place when the Circuit Overseer is leaving

[@gbnomore3918]

I usually just sat and partied at home with some scotch, thankful he was gone.

[@theresaakins2317]

I've never heard of such parties going on! Wow, at International conventions you say? Boy was I a naive witness at the time.

[@dholloway2415]

Never knew about Family Night, thanks brother JT...loved the story!!

[@WJTM88]

D Holloway you are welcome. JT

[@willyb933]

Outstanding as usual! Interesting to research why Jaracz was removed from Australia back in the day. Barbara Anderson would be a good starting point. Thanks, JT and Lady Cee we love you both!

[@gbnomore3918]

No doubt he's way back on the archives of the secret database list WT is fighting so hard, with that donation cash, not to release.

[@ERNIE555]

GB NoMore I so hope someone forces them to release....that would be the END of the BORG!

[@akatheheretic3014]

Perhaps it was because of being a "Jar-ass" 😂🤣

[@sollasollew3208]

love these bethel insights

[@dantoinettetaylor1663]

Thanks for your insightful videos JT. I really enjoy them. You make everything come alive for us because you had ringside seat to so much of the Watchtower's shenanigans, bloopers and blunders, the good,the bad and the ugly

[@elypevets5633]

All these Bethel hijinx sound really worldly to me! lol

[@DietlindeJanssen]

Amazing what you have experienced in all these years...! You could write your memoirs! We get an insight into what really goes on behind the curtains! I am so thankful to have been born a woman...truly saved from even more misery! Thank you for the good job you do...All my Love to you both!( Episide 2 for me...)❤

[@dominicantruckers3345]

Funny how I didn’t dare to play worldly music at the Kingdom Hall parking lot 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@johnrobinsoniii4028]

It depends on what makes music “worldly”. Would you call the music of Bach, Beethoven, Brahms,Schubert,Schumann,Tchaikovsky,Prokofiev,Shostakovich,Ellington,Smith,Moore,Gershwin,Price,Ives,Copeland,Stravinsky,…”worldly”? I DON’T THINK SO.

[@ronaldhollie9151]

This certainly took me back in time JT! I didn't go to a lot of the family night events however, the ones i went to, the bethelite's acts seemed to be under very severe scrutiny!

[@WJTM88]

Very Severe scrutiny jt

[@marylaborde6151]

Love Grumpy Old Men Muppets!! Hit ‘em hard, Grumpy Old Men. Lol! But I just want to reach the JWs and win them to Jesus. 🤩

[@WJTM88]

Mary LaBorde it was a great cover to talk trash Lol JT

[@marylaborde6151]

WJTM88 More trash talk = FUN! 😂

[@colemanlowe5014]

Awesome

[@exjwwokeup1617]

Thumbs up!

[@birdie392000]

I got married in the Kingdom Hall in 1980. We had a kingdom song that I walked down the isle to. We walked down to the song by the Carpenter’s We’ve only just begun.

[@davidwicklin9943]

Did a Smurf run down the aisle as the "best woman"?

[@ERNIE555]

David Wicklin 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

I remember Family Night. It was pretty cool and fun.

[@beverlyharward9631]

I never knew of family nights at Bethel. So they had a little fun for a few years then it was 😣😴. I love listening to your stories of life at Bethel. Regards to you and Lady Cee.

[@WJTM88]

Beverly Harward the org always takes any enjoyment of life from its members JT

[@davidwicklin9943]

Even Barbara Anderson & her husband Joe and their Son Lance had quite an entertaining interview at a Family Night in 1991 before they left Bethel!

[@davidwicklin9943]

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[@robbiedudley9572]

AMAZING! THANKS for posting.

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

Looking forward to the next chapter of Life at Bethel!

[@michellem2042]

I do, I do remember them, im aging myself!!!

[@sparklecanada0112]

Michelle M...😉🙌😂🙋‍♀️🎼🎶🎶📺📻

[@DavidTaylor-ki2ir]

Great summary at the end JT

[@Hermwash1]

Great stories!

[@godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038]

Lol my Elder father would have an heart attack to how things are now

[@KnowlegeIsPower1]

Absolutely love the life at bethel series. It’s like sitting with an uncle or cousin or cool family member telling everyone stories at a family gathering. Love it! I would like to ask at some point could you please do a video on the specific questions for ex jw’s to ask their current jw family members to get them thinking? Kind of like “wake up” questions to help those ones start to pay attention to the signs around them and slowly start to draw their own conclusions. You said in a previous video the best way to reach others is with questions and i do have a few but would love to add anything you come up with as well. Just something to cut that light bulb on in their “auto pilot” brains and get them thinking critically!

[@jessicanerpio-cauldwell4987]

I remember a Brother going off to Serve at Bethel within a month he was back !!! ...No explanation No nothing...He even left the ORG... today I still wonder what happened !?!...Must have been "Family Night" 😜...JT thanks for the inside Scoop... LOL 🤣😅😆

[@RiskeFactor]

Loved the lockers. Shabba-Do from the lockers was a JW.

[@cellg4166]

Basically, do what WE tell U and NOT what we do!

[@davidwicklin9943]

Like GB Tony Morris said - "stick with what we authorized, you'll be safe".🤣😂

[@theresaakins2317]

@@davidwicklin9943 oh my goodness, such, what's the word John Cedars would use, oh, arrogance from Tony and the gilded elite.

[@jwnomore2488]

Love your pics at the beginning... I like at the end where you said that if a witness doesn't see it for themselves they don't believe it. That's very true. Its either they don't believe it or it was just that cong or that elder its not the org in their eyes

[@WJTM88]

bingo jt

[@cellg4166]

ReRun from What’s Happening was part of that group! The Lockers

[@sherrivenegas3862]

Cell G street dance Pioneers!

[@daundrakennedy732]

I remember rerun I have the skates !

[@stevebenoit6649]

Remind me of bringing idols into the temple, back in the day.

[@arlittleredfox7671]

You are SO right. Those "Kingdom Halls" we're dedicated to God for "pure" worship. (I built a few) But what is dedicated to God is now being sold to ANYONE who will buy it. Other Religions, Animal clinics, law offices...to pay for law suites levied against them. For shame. One Saturday afternoon there was "the Hall cleaning". (Early 1970's) Wispers flew as to whether it was appropriate to serve hand cranked ice cream in the hall parking lot. Boy how times have changed. (So many more stories. Born in with an Elder father. I might have had questions but they were spoken cautiously.) Thank you for your stories. When I hear them I feel a strange, but familiar bond of what was.

[@markjones3402]

My brother JT no Soul train, No Kirk Franklin, No Gospel and no jazz, only FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE FROM DOOR TO DOOR 😂🤣😂🤣😉🤔 No RHYTHM , We are a people with RHYTHM and we are in tune with the universe and in tune with nature , They can keep that HOUSE TO HOUSE FROM DOOR TO DOOR MUSIC , REAL TALK FAM 😲🤤😨

[@beverlyharward9631]

Mark Jones, my hubby and I watched soul train. Of course we didn't mention it to the others. (I used to 'break it down' because I've always loved to dance and I've always had rhythm!) I wasn't born in but went in late teens, stupid me. My sister had me listening to Wilson Pickett when I was 9! Loved it!!!!! Now I'm telling my age but who cares? I'm out and I listen to a variety of music styles and I can still 'break it down', though I pay for it the next day. Live it up or you'll fade away. Lol

[@markjones3402]

Miss Beverly Harward I'm so proud of you that you got the HELL outta there ,you live your life and don't be like LOTS wife in the bible and look back you continue to live your life and you HANDLE YOUR SCANDAL AND MAKE IT DO WHAT IT DO BECAUSE IT IS WHAT IT IS , Don't let them tell you Oh Jehovah's people is giving you Spiritual food, you let them know Food is food and everybody can't cook and you don't want their food and just say bye FELICIA MISS SOPHIA HOME NOW 😂🤣😂🤣😎

[@ERNIE555]

Beverly Harward yeah ..but who cares about the next day..when ya having fun

[@sherrivenegas3862]

That poor front row probably Fred Sanforded all over the place. “It's The BIG One!!! You hear that, Elizabeth!! I'm Coming to join Ya, Honey.”

[@WJTM88]

Sherri Venegas bingo that is what happened Lol JT

[@davidwicklin9943]

Nothing like a little Brazen Conduct to make fun of the Guttering Booty!🤣😂

[@ERNIE555]

David Wicklin guttering booty...shit haven’t started the dictionary yet

[@RiverDanube]

Thanks for the link to the Lockers, that was fun to watch.

[@davidwicklin9943]

Ted Jaracz deserved as much ripping as he could get from the "grumpy old men"! Melita as well!

[@danieliglesias1669]

Oh yeah...I remember the Lockers from when I was a kid JW. I also remember doing a few steps/moves from The Lockers dance routines at a few JW parties. Here’s a funny/peculiar thing. When a couple of us did some of the Lockers moves at JW parties/get togethers in New York (very near to Watchtower HQs) it was okay, the elders just looked and smiled. They never said a word about it. My family moves to Miami, I get invited to a wedding reception of a couple from my new congregation in Miami, I do the very same dance moves at the reception and, these elders didn’t like it at all. I got a talking to. Not any type of judicial committee or official disciplinary action, just a talking to. I was told something about certain behaviors not being proper for a Christian. This was the beginning of my awakening, I think. I remember thinking, wait, I didn’t do anything wrong, or immoral or sinful...or indecent. Why was this okay with the elders up in NYC and not with this new set of elders in Miami? They way they talked to me (I was 16 at the time and at that young age I had been a ministerial servant in my previous congregation in NYC) it was like, “how dare you dance like a worldly person in front of us elders?”. They told me that, dancing in such a manner was immoral and not proper for a Christian. It was the beginning of the end for me with Watchtower, I think. (BTW, this didn’t happen at the Kingdom Hall, this happened at a private hall that was rented for the wedding reception..) Funny, I had forgotten all about it until I saw your video. Watchtower has always been full of inconsistencies. Maybe you can confirm this JT. “Back in the day”, African American and Hispanic Bethelites were permitted to have mustaches. White, “anglo-saxon” brothers were not permitted to have mustaches or even semi long side burns. As far as I know this was an unwritten, unspoken rule but still, a very real rule that was enforced. Something to do with representing Jehovah’s people and something about what was “proper” for certain cultures was not “proper” for other cultures...it was kinda vague (like the rule against beards now) but...very real. I don’t know if you remember this JT. I remember that even back then I thought it was sorta strange but, I had been brainwashed by Watchtower so...at the time I just accepted it even if it may no sense to me. Thank you for your activism. 🤔🇨🇺🇺🇸

[@thumbstruck]

The Farm had "Farm parties" - they were originally held off property and organized by Bethelites (chip in a couple bucks, keg included!). Eventually they had a Farm picnic out in the back outside, then came "Family Night".

[@EveSieminski]

They literally suck the joy and fun out of life!!!!! There was absolutely nothing wrong with it and because people were actually laughing and having a good time they had to end it.

[@WJTM88]

bingo JT

[@johnrobinsoniii4028]

Now, that was so unfair. Brothers and Sisters can’t enjoy themselves? BOOOO!!!!

[@MonaLisa-yb9bq]

I brought this fact up to a 'sister' and she got irritated with me saying that those witnesses deserve to have fun. You're right about us being told for many years that the Kingdom Hall is for worship ONLY. Double standards. The organization makes me sick.

[@jasmineduran6731]

D Cee I know right?! She said they deserve to have fun but the rest of the organization needs to be more spiritual and what have you! Smh 🤦🏾‍♀️The double standards are real in the organization.

[@beverlyharward9631]

D Cee. Years, it was decades as my memory serves me. I think around 1973-74 they said the Kingdom halls could no longer be used for bridal or baby showers. Marriage is from God, babies are a gift from God so why did they stop it? Top ass, I mean brass. Lol. Like cake, punch and finger foods are forbidden things. Again, how stupid.

[@sparklecanada0112]

I think that's the name of the next Dance Hit of The G.B...."Double Standards"?🤔🤔🎼🎶🎶😂😂

[@MonaLisa-yb9bq]

@@beverlyharward9631 Yup. 1 Tim. 1:9 I love this scripture; it says it all about the organization.

[@MonaLisa-yb9bq]

@@sparklecanada0112 hahahahaha

[@paultheoutdoorsman]

Got a good laugh from this one JT. You know, when we had parties in the hall when I was young, we'd sit in a line of chairs just like the Lockers, and get up one at a time and do our thing...and I even had one of their moves down to an art. And Herbie Hancock? ...reminds me of when we would throw down cardboard and breakdance to the Herbie Hancock, Chaka Khan, Run DMC, etc. Those D batteries in the boom box never seemed to last long enough!! Back on topic, yeah the rules can be changed at any moment. Mind you it's THEIR social club, so they can make up rules as they go, or change them on a whim. Funny thing is that the changes have nothing to do with God's spirit. Changes usually only occur when word gets out about what was done behind closed doors, they got bad PR on something, they're losing a lot of money on something, or a court case has forced them to re-examine their "superlative way" of doing things.

[@cardboardbox9977]

I was in Bethel from 2006-09. Family Night took place at Patterson in the main auditorium, same place where Gilead Graduation takes place. The MCs were normally a bethel couple. When I got there it was 3 nights in a row. When I left it was just one night because they said those other 2 days can be used for field service😂🤣😂

[@WJTM88]

you got to love it go out in service you all

[@mathastinner2691]

Pretenders are the worse, with Jehovah`s Witnesses pretending to be number one by teaching the whole bible truth, they become the last in the list for now they are being exposed of their dark secretes," Where there is smoke there is fire". Thank you JT for your times

[@taaadaaa5256]

Great vlog

[@dannycasey2832]

Theres a farely recent video of "Footloose" being played in a KH while about 10 JWs are on the stage dancing and the whole congregation are dancing in the seating area. Footloose movie was about rebellion. Ive seen at least 3 videos of JWs in KHs having "Worldly music" and everyone dancing like "Worldly People". And these aren't even for Assembly Delegates. I didnt say this to disagree with you but to let you know that recently the elders seem to be letting these things happen. I enjoyed your insight into this subject.

[@accidentalfader6194]

lol, I remember Soul Train on TV and my mom wouldn't let us watch it. She said it had dirty dancing or something... perhaps that was the case in the 90's but not the 70's. I love all videos, but really enjoy the Bethel lineup... I hope this is part 7 out of 100!

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Thanks!!! LOL @ 7 out of 100

[@sparklecanada0112]

Rerun...The Lockers...You just sent Me back into my teen years! lol. Before I became a JW, my Family would have a Family Night from time to time. I never heard or seen Anything like that from Any family all while I was in. Let alone, A Kingdom Hall or Assembly Hall!🤚😣. The closest I ever came to Worldly Music in the K.H., was the day they played Boney M's "Rasputin" during a Talk on What Kind Of Music Not To Listen To.😣🤣 With all the recent changes to Watchtower Policies and Acceptable Activities; I half expect the G.B. to start building "Kingdom Clubs", playing Revamped Kingdom Melodies that Sound Worldly, and charging a Cover Fee( Although We All know, The True Fee is Your Life both Now and Into The Future👌). 😁

[@WJTM88]

Glad you enjoyed it JT

[@pauletteforman]

J.T. I have to admit, the only GB members I really liked were Gangas and Sydlic. They had a sense of humor, was approachable, and whenever I dined with them (many times) they were always consistent. You're absolutely right, most of the other GB members were just like the Muppets Statler & Waldorf👉🏽 Stiff as boards; uptight, mean, prejudice, holier-than-thou, judgmental, overrighteous, ready to zero in on what's wrong with you. They seem to gravitate towards people who were just like them; especially 👉🏽Jaracz, Kline, and Schroeder 🙄! And J.T., I couldn't STAND that BETHEL WALK😣😂! You know that shuffle EVERY Bethelite and C.O./D.O. seem to have👉🏽 That side-to-side God worshipping shuffle like they were ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS 😂😂😂😂😂😂! Seriously though, Bethel memories reflect that disorganization's hypocrisy. Condemning everybody outside while perpetrating the fraud on the inside. Again, good points 😂💯👊🏾!

[@gregfuller5807]

I loved Sydlik too! He was super cool and didn't believe a bunch of the shit the Borg was pushing.

[@j.j.1064]

I met Schroeder. Full of himself. Pompous self glorifying elitist.

[@j.j.1064]

@@gregfuller5807 But lacked the courage to do a Ray Franz? That's not my idea of cool. Anyone in that position who sat on their hands in the midst of the Malawi crisis and shunning and blood issue deaths were not cool. Just expedient.

[@pauletteforman]

@@j.j.1064 yeah Schroeder was something else. A bigot down to his toes. So was Kline with his big ears. His ego was just as big. Besides being on the writing committee, he wrote songs for the music department. He was the one who penned FORWARD YOU WITNESSES 🙄. And you're right. Looking back and as much as I liked Sydlik and Gangas, they were soft. They knew something was wrong and should've stood up to Fred Franz and the rest of the GB cronies like Ray Franz and others did. Especially after that Malawi incident.

[@akatheheretic3014]

@@pauletteforman Exactly!

[@akatheheretic3014]

Jesus and His Apostles , would have enjoyed the 'Pop Locking' . . . more than whatever that dance Sam Herd did while leaving that Airport !! LOL :):):)

[@WJTM88]

good point jt

[@markjones3402]

WE ARE GROWN ADULTS , NO CENSORSHIP ! ! !

[@theoracle56]

JT, thank you another great story. I think these are my favorite that you do. I notice you lightly referenced the cultural and racial disconnects that are often laced with responses to certain types of music at Bethel and at the Watchtower, Tract, and Bible Society. I did an exhaustive but rewarding research project (just for myself, but I did share it with a video) on the documented racism against African Americans and Africans at Bethel and in the JE teaching. Judging from the time you were at Bethel, I think latently you were dealing with some of that white supremacist ideology with music and dress. The glaring change from hip hop “Lockers” to the next year Harp and Flute classical music is a great example of what types of music is considered “acceptable”, which has a racial component. Reading the comments from the Watchtower gives a great backdrop to your story. I wish you well. Keep up the good work.

[@mmarja42]

I was in charge of a cd player at one congregation based play, after the play we had food, drink (non alcohol) and music and dancing. I put "keep the faith" from bon jovi, and one elder deemed bon jovi too hedonistic so i had to switch to another song. I mean, "keep the faith"! Keep the friggin faith! A positive song, not "slippery when wet". I just left the cd player, poured myself some juice, took some snacks and never came near a cd player again. My decision, not theirs. Friggin moral thugs. Made me sick. So glad i'm out.

[@theresaakins2317]

I've always had trouble in and out of the org in playing my classic rock. It was always deemed too shocking or not amongst the pop music of the day (disco) so I was never allowed to ever have my turn at the radio at work places etc. I mean jeez, the most horrible thing my classic rock ever said was "now you can kiss my A** goodbye in a song by Queen.

[@sparklecanada0112]

I wonder what they would had done if you played "Losing My Religion" or "Jesus Christ Superstar" or "Spirit In The Sky"?🤔😂🤣🤣🤣

[@craigbarrett2278]

Has anyone else noticed worldly melodies in some of the new songs? Didn't like the new songs....haven't been since January....not planning on returning.

[@robertstory4163]

I remember the muppets--one was an imitation of Barr and the other Swingle

[@GoatlikePersonality]

We used to move the diningroom tables and put on heavy metal. We would dance and headbang untill the band started singing about Satan. Then we stopped

[@cindyluwho72]

Were you in Brooklyn? When did you serve?

[@WJTM88]

yes in the 80s

[@cindyluwho72]

@@WJTM88 my brother was there from 89 - 2009

[@nadiakay4474]

Harp, flute vs Lockers. What a letdown. I enjoyed this talk. Loved Soul Train on Saturdays prior to going to the disco. What’s wrong with it?

[@WJTM88]

it was painful jt

[@nadiakay4474]

WJTM88 No it was the best time in my life. I was not a JW.

[@nadiakay4474]

Yerba. It’s The Soul Train today. Take me down to funky town. LadyC and you would be in. ... because they only let beautiful people in. Can you imagine what the audience would have done/reacted to Donna summer I Feel Love?

[@WJTM88]

@@nadiakay4474 Too funny and we know what would have happened with her Hit song :I love to love you Baby! was played LOL JT

[@j.j.1064]

We often boasted about "loving parallel" standards throughout the earth but this was just parroting official nonsense because that is exactly what it was. There were discussions in the watchtower about the Scribes and Pharisees taking the prominent seats in the synagogues and how JWs avoid such practices. When in plain sight the advice would be completely ignored. At weddings and social gatherings there were the family Cliques of elders and their families and everyone else on the side lines if present at all. Their was always resentment and an undercurrent among the socially disenfranchised. And murmuring and complaining about the hypocrisy of it all. (Justifiably) When elders and their wives got to know about being called out for their hypocrisy they would go into siege mode and start weaving loaded comments about Korah into their Watchtower discussions and even scheduling "special talks" about the dangers of gossip and how elders are imperfect and how they are worthy of double honor and yet equal and ignoring the illogical juxtaposition. (George Orwel said"we are all equal but some are more equal than others") All this would in some cases lead to outright infighting in the congregation which would result in a circuit overseer "arbitrating" on his next visit. But if anyone was expecting the CO to set things right they would be sadly disappointed because CO's were from the same elite stock who were by default there to maintain the status quo and keep the "plebs" subdued. I've met some pretty obnoxious COs in my time and the act of trying to"convince" myself that these awful people were"latter day apostles" was a distressing fruitless endeavour that messed with your mind when it was as clear as day that they were wolves in wolves clothing. Any notion that what took place amounted to a "worldwide brotherhood" was pure self deception.

[@danielkaranja7978]

That was really funny and unexpected!!

[@errolcampbell6985]

That's why Jehovah left it. As he did to Israel. I realized his spirit left many years ago. It is mere shell.

[@WJTM88]

Nope! Nope Nope he was never there, they lied to us and we actually believed it WT is an American Uninspired book publishing company specializing in religious genre publication LOL JT

[@markussone7334]

@@WJTM88 You are right JT. God was never there. In addition to being a book publishing/real estate company this cult is second to none when it comes to perpetuating tactics of cult mind control. The ability to hijack the thinking of 8 million people and hold them in a state of delusion takes some serious skills. I've seen them literally hijack a persons entire life and mislead them into making some really bad decisions that would damage the rest of their lives. So many have underestimated how dangerous this cult is.

[@WJTM88]

@@markussone7334 You are on Point JT

[@williamhinton2148]

That's why I say they are phoney . I use to have nice house party's and it got out and the circuit overseer saw to it that it stop. I try it again a no one showed up .I'm completely fead up with grown people telling grown people how they should or should not act..Down right hypocrisy from the top to the bottom.

[@WJTM88]

William Hinton yes the CO. Would shut down ""large parties". And it would scare the rest of the JW So sad JT

[@davidwicklin9943]

I remember one of the C.O.'s in the 1990's "serving" Chicago talked of how "they caught" a number of the "young friends" bringing change of clothes for when the convention was over to go to a nearby party. He railed on how he got wind of it condemning them on the platform talk saying "oh, see, Jehovah always exposes it! You can't hide from Jeehoover!". Professional fault-finding micromanaging bully hypocrites!!

[@j.j.9511]

Hey when there are news reports like JW's losing lawsuits & such is that ever told to the congregation?

[@latonyasmith683]

nope!

[@j.j.9511]

@@latonyasmith683 so "everything is fine"? Lol

[@karenp5673]

Johnathan Of course not! The elders cover it up and tell the rank and file "do not listen to these apostate lies! "

[@dantoinettetaylor1663]

I'm sure you know the answer to that LOL ... Of course NOT!

[@beautyRest1]

Yes, and you better not tell anyone, or be very very careful to whom you tell it to. The first thing they asked is: where did you get that info from?

[@muntupoetslegacy7760]

Love this video! LOL! The one dislike must be a Racist JW. LOL!

[@WJTM88]

Muntu Poets Legacy too funny JT

[@ERNIE555]

Bethel watching...dislike it cause they are not having fun...Tony keeps his bedroom locked and has fun all by himself

[@bobbypaluga4346]

JWs version of the Gong Show

[@beatrixkiddo426]

And yet I saw Geoffrey Jackson dancing on a song which doesn't seems to be a kingdom melody.....This man is really mischievous😂

[@ghostarmor87]

JT I got a question... Do you reject Jehovah or do you reject the organization of JW’s

[@WJTM88]

excellent question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Willie that was what got us into trouble -- we could not distinguish between God and an American book publishing company run by a young white guy out of Pittsburgh PA claiming that if we questioned what him and his boys wrote in their pamphlets-- God had to take us Out lol JT

[@jasonhaire8897]

The JW family I knew did not want there children listing to alternative rock music or any kind of rap but they were allowed to play certain violent video games like Duke Nukem 3d Mortal Combat and Street Fighter as well as a host of others and they all watched Terminator 1 and 2 up in the house they were very strict in some ways but at times would relax the system for some things. Does anybody know what I mean?

[@xlortiz]

My younger self would be beyond mortified if you told me "worldly music" would EVER be played from the platform. And isn't the dancing for the GB members & the "JW.org" blue pins like idolatry ?

[@WJTM88]

you are on point most jw would too JT

[@caribbeanman3379]

I have a suggestion. You showed some pictures of JT at bethel with relatively large groups of other JWs whose faces were smudged to protect their privacy. Because of the relatively large groups, it takes a while to finally identify JT's face, but by then maybe the video might cut to a different picture. My suggestion to avoid this is to maybe put a red circle around JT's face for the first couple seconds when the image comes on screen so the viewer's attention is immediately drawn to where JT is. Maybe it could even be blinking for a short while. Whatever is easy for you.

[@WJTM88]

great suggestion JT

[@mandeelaw8410]

Sounds like a Baptist Church...

[@freakoewilliams2664]

Sounds more like a non denomination Church

[@beverlyharward9631]

@@freakoewilliams2664 Presbyterian, Methodist, Lutheran and Episcopalian Churches/mambers are Christians but not fuddy diddy's. I know of Independent Baptist Churches that have parties. No alcohol at these Church parties but they allow a pretty wide range of music and dancing.

[@freakoewilliams2664]

@@beverlyharward9631 I have no idea of what you talking bout...

[@theresaakins2317]

@@beverlyharward9631 I know what you mean! Lol. Not too hard to understand.

[@freakoewilliams2664]

@@theresaakins2317 I guess I don't know cause I never seen nun like that before......only in nondenominational churches even their worship service sound so worldly I can't do it... I understand what she's saying just don't know nothing about it and never seen or heard about it in Baptist churches Nun of the one's I been to.... but anyway I don't go to Baptist churches, nondenominational or any of them others churches... only holiness...tbh I haven't been in a church in years.....

[@bigblockjdam2750]

JT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. I LEFT IN 1994..I WAS BORN IN AND LEFT AT 20 YEARS OLD.. I HAVE BEEN STUDYING FOR YEARS NOW IM 45.. BUT MY QUESTION IS JESUS'S FATHER NAME. I DONT USE THE WATCHTOWERS TRANSLATION. BECAUSE OF THE ORIGIN OF IT...AS WELL AS IT BEING LINKED TO FALSE GOD.. MOSES WAS TOLD BY THE FATHER .. I AM.. SO IF THIS IS NOT RIGHT. JESUS NEVER CALL HIS FATHER BY HIS FIRST NAME SO NEITHER WILL I ...WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS SUBJECT..

[@WJTM88]

great question, i think the wt got a good selling point by stressing gods name, only problem is what is the point of knowing Gods name and then turn around and TELL LIES IN HIS NAME ask yourself this, do you think that folks with names hard to pronounce give a Rats "arse' as to whether you can pronounce their name in comparison to you telling lies about them and their name ? just asking- WT puts the priority on the wrong thing- The wt has been walking around telling folks since Oct 12, 2012 that 8 billion humans much obey Tony Morris and his 7 colleagues in order to have God's approval - Does goes name really matter in that case just askinbg JT

[@bigblockjdam2750]

THANKS FOR THAT. ITS GREAT TO GET ANOTHER VEIWS ON DIFFERENT MATTERS. THE ...I AM THAT I AM HAS ALWAYS MADE ME WONDER. WHY DID THE FATHER SAY THIS TO MOSES.. TRUE THE TIGHT PANTS TONY GROUP HAVE PAVED THEIR WAY TO KEEP THE LOYAL ONES DOING THERE BIDDING. WHILE ALLOWING THE FLOCK TO RAVAGED BY WOLVES NOT EVEN SPARING THE YOUNG ONES..ALLOWING CHILDREN HAVE THEIR INNOCENCE TAKEN BY SUCH TWISTED ONES AND THEN COVERING IT UP.. BUT MOST OF ALL BRI G THE FATHERS NAME INTO DISRUPT...UNGODLY MEN.. I HAVE ONE SISTER AND HUSBAND IN BUT IM GETTING HER TO US HER CRITICAL THINKING. IT FUNNY SHE SAID TO ME EVEN IF THEY ARE WRONG WHERE WOULD I GO...I LAUGHED AND SAID KNOWING JESUS WAS ASKED THE SAME THING..YOU CAN HAVE THE ONE ON ONE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FATHER AND SON THAT THE PROPHETS HAD IN THE BIBLE WITHOUT MADE MADE DOCTRINE AND HIERARCHY GETTING IN THE WAY

[@captainthunderjrjdharra4364]

Judges 1 22

[@freakoewilliams2664]

JT I was wondering do y'all ever think about going back....

[@WJTM88]

Freako King never it is bogus Why go back to make believe ??? JT

[@freakoewilliams2664]

@@WJTM88 I just ask cause a lot of the videos sounds so interesting...... I never was a jw and will never be... but I have study with them only to see some of what they believe.....

[@WJTM88]

Freako King my mom says she wish she was like you in having the opportunity to know the Pros and Cons about Jw She would never have become one Today in 2019 there is no excuse to be ignorant about JW It is by choice. The information on their history and inner workings are available to anyone who is willing to ask Critical Thinking questions Thx for your post JT

[@edwardl.andersonlll9082]

Or, their interpretation of God's standards!

[@johnrobinsoniii4028]

I think Brother Jaracz needed to loosen up. It was all in fun-Brother Jaracz had absolutely no sense of humor.

[@gabriellara1764]

I am dfed, Hey JT, I don't see nothing wrong with doing things to God's glory. Weddings can get out of hand, believe me. But let's get to some serious questions. A few people are claiming that JWs singleness doctrine is what is causing all the JW sex problems. Let me ask you since you were a bethelite, How were you able to handle your singleness? Did you feel like it was making you a sex deviant? How were you able to fight the urges if so.

[@WJTM88]

Singleness was not a problem, you could get married anytime you wanted to. The catholic church bans priest but i never heard of single pioneer bro who was banned from marriage jw have NO ACTIVITIES other than field service for single folks, i grew up as a jw. how many jw around the world play another congregation is a weekend pickup baseball game? how many times did the elders arrange for some outdoor activities? overall jw do nothing organized from the top level to the local level for its youth hawk books hawk books that was our weekend activities LOL JT

[@edwardl.andersonlll9082]

I'm not trying to sound racist, but those are white people's version of what the Bible says and who God is. Look at the ancient Hebrews those people were very soulful, I mean as far as my understanding goals, the Jews as we know him are not part of the original Hebrews, they're not Semitic.

[@gregfuller5807]

Hey JT was that the year that the bros were making fun of the lyannized potatoes and got publicly reamed by Gangas (I think)? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@WJTM88]

Greg Fuller the rank and file JW is skyways getting dogged for something Lol JT

[@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938]

fam·i·ly /ˈfam(ə)lē/ noun Origin late Middle English (in family (sense 2 of the noun); also denoting the servants of a household or the retinue of a nobleman): from Latin familia ‘household servants, family’, from famulus ‘servant’.

[@iconmcqueen6353]

Wow that's a mess and wrong on so many levels. I think if Jesus knew about that he would have shut it down.

[@johnnylavery5512]

I hated family night. Embarrassing

[@lavernethomasbey6822]

Not ignoring the racism in JW. Everything was according to stiff lineier white male standards. The white man came and told us God speaks through him and our assimilated butts could not wait to become a slave AGAIN. I know all races fell for the trick. My point is the world has been conditioned to accept white male authority.

[@ERNIE555]

Laverne Jones true....look at who’s in charge

[@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938]

fam·i·ly /ˈfam(ə)lē/ noun Origin late Middle English (in family (sense 2 of the noun); also denoting the servants of a household or the retinue of a nobleman): from Latin familia ‘household servants, family’, from famulus ‘servant’.

[@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938]

@@lavernethomasbey6822 The Western World = The First World = USA and Europe = Anglo-American Empire = European Christianity The spell the world is under is called ENGLISH. French, Spanish and Portugese is also included. We are not Englishmen, why is English our point of reference. Who writes English literature, and School books? That's mind control aka GOVERNMENTAL. gov·ern /ˈɡəvərn/ verb Origin Middle English: from Old French governer, from Latin gubernare ‘to steer, rule’, from Greek kubernan ‘to steer’. men·tal /ˈmen(t)l/ adjective Origin late Middle English: from late Latin mentalis, from Latin mens, ment- ‘mind’ Why is God's Government on earth a hierarchal system modeled after the human created Caste system?

[@shuroddaniels8052]

Basically, Bethel was not allowed to have such urban (aka Black)music and carrying on.

[@WJTM88]

bingo jt

[@psychological6707]

JWs taking the fun out of everything? Big surprise!!

[@WJTM88]

bingo jt

[@quanrock2897]

Even when I was a Jw(thought I almost sort of never was at the same time, weird story), I sure as HECK would have never had my wedding at a Kingdom Hall, playing witness melodies. GROSS!

[@davidwicklin9943]

You must have went the "Justice of the Peace" route like my JW ex-wife and I did in Chicago in 1999.

[@adrian_9951]

😂😂😂😂

[@UJB123]

Haaaa! Too much joy for the non elderly JWs on that first go-round. Cranky old men with no sense of humor making the youth wish for a box of razor blades from then on. To me, a KH is more like a synagogue [school] and nothing like the Temple [worship]. They had singing, musicians, and dancing at the Temple ... and on high festival days; a feast.

[@Esther-1914]

Watchtower was looking for talent to exploit?

[@mikeb5350]

From what I know, Ole Brother Theo Jaracz wasn’t smiling because he was prob thinking about his next rape victim

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

What is exjws critical thinker?why are you happy for misleading innocent people Ephesians 4:14,Revelation 12:9-10,2PETER 3:16?