Jehovah's Witnesses: Life at Bethel Voting Members Episode 11

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@starkochmodig5815
@starkochmodig5815 Жыл бұрын
The pioneer daughter (25years old) of an elder got pregnant by a (very alfa male) very married circuit (45) overseer while serving where the need is great in South America. When she came back to our congregation in Sweden: No announcement, no disfellowshiping was made. She used big clothing in order to hide her pregnancy. A few month later BOOOOMMM!!! a baby was born out of nowhere. This pioneer daughter is nephew to the right hand of the society circuit overseer graduated in Gillead Scholl. I went in shock when I saw the circuit overseer, the district overseer and many preceeding elders eating with her and the baby at the next convention as nothing had happened. After that the rumors went on and the body of elders gave a warning talk to our congregation telling us to be very careful about slander because we were risking to be disfellowshipped. This shows that it is good to have good connections in the WT.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Wow powerful example of folks with friends in high places
@cassiamagalypina273
@cassiamagalypina273 Жыл бұрын
Misericórdia ! 😮😮😊😂
@pviau90
@pviau90 Жыл бұрын
JT these episodes are gold!! Please keep ‘em coming!
@Aquamayne100
@Aquamayne100 Жыл бұрын
amazing how JT went to bethel decades before I did but all of his experiences are relatable lol
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
It's cause they used the same technique to beat us with Lol
@Aquamayne100
@Aquamayne100 Жыл бұрын
@@ExJWCriticalThinker that's a fact!
@thumbstruck
@thumbstruck Жыл бұрын
Saying at "the farm", "The office can get another back for the price of a stamp." Spiritual people love people and use things, fleshly minded people love things and use people.
@1968dogg
@1968dogg Жыл бұрын
Like maintaining an assembly line with modern robots.
@jahswillebeh865
@jahswillebeh865 11 ай бұрын
I always turned down the offer
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
Every year, David Wishinsky would take his wife and one other member of the congregation to the annual meeting. Now I understand how this works. It's funny recalling the brothers and sisters crossing their fingers hoping to be the chosen one.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
Blackballing is very real in the J-Dub community.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Yes it is
@nicfre1804
@nicfre1804 Жыл бұрын
This right here is a behind-the-scenes, heart-felt expression of how this cult operation works. How you shared your experience is priceless for those of us that have seen lite snippets of the behind-the-scenes scenarios are reality. Let this be a warning to those that may be searching for truth and light. It is not to be found within this religion founded by man.
@nicfre1804
@nicfre1804 Жыл бұрын
I apologize, my grammar and sentence structure in my comment leaves alot to be desired. This video was very profound to me. These are experiences that seem innocuous to outsiders but are absolutely a part of the struggle for those that have escaped this cult...with scars that are still ours to bear.
@lovelysosweet8386
@lovelysosweet8386 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@isaaccarmignani
@isaaccarmignani Жыл бұрын
Wonderful storyteller!
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
I know an elder from the Mayagüez, English congregation in Puerto Rico, owner of a million-dollar business, who was always invited to the annual meeting. His name is David Wishinsky. You might have met him. We all knew that money talks and that always bothered me. He is one of those elders that no one liked. But he had the cash.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Bingo That is how it works
@HelloHello-cr4yk
@HelloHello-cr4yk Жыл бұрын
Our previous circuit overseer is a money collector in every cong. The biggest provider is always be on top on parts of assembly etc. and the teaching was terrible.
@kristicallnc
@kristicallnc Жыл бұрын
The green handshake
@HelloHello-cr4yk
@HelloHello-cr4yk Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Our co makes our cong like a milking cow collecting money as he preferred instead of food for meals.
@alfred5048
@alfred5048 Жыл бұрын
Saludos Efrain... my mother is a JW (since 1973) and goes to a Mayagüez Spanish congregation... in La Sultanita I believe. The JW population is dissappearing very quickly on that side of the island.
@superdave1921
@superdave1921 Жыл бұрын
Having served as an elder for many years back in the 70’s and 80’s, I can attest to the fact that everything JC alluded to is the exact truth! Money talks and spirituality walks quite often in this cult.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
We just trying to keep it real Thanks for sharing
@DoctorWhoNo1A
@DoctorWhoNo1A Жыл бұрын
your story about an elder with a powerful position reminded me of the time I was in my 1st and only year as an elder. I was assigned to go over the questions for baptism with a teenager. And the responses given to just about every question sounded like questions themselves. They were not answered in a confident way. Those responses gave me the impression that the person was not ready for baptism and needed to delay immersion. Well, when I reported my observations and concerns to a particular elder [in fact, I served as his MS assistant in the book study at his home], he dismissively overrode my judgement on the matter and the elder body ended up recommending baptism. I thought he or I would share my concerns with the rest of the body. But it didn't turn out that way. That person got baptized and within just a couple of years became inactive. I tried to warn them...and that's all you can do.
@vusimngomezulu2500
@vusimngomezulu2500 Жыл бұрын
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses?????????????
@pocahontas4583
@pocahontas4583 7 ай бұрын
That’s interesting. I always knew all the information really well as far as what they teach whether I agreed with it or not so I had no trouble answering the questions. So obviously I was allowed to get baptized, but had a lot of doubts mainly because of the behavior of the people. But I went ahead with baptism because I figured it just made sense to make that next step since I knew the information so well. It only recently dawned on me that I spent more time inactive than active and became inactive within about 5 years of getting baptized but technically been baptized 2 decades.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
Now I understand why David Wishinsky was never deleted as much as the body of elders tried.
@Estee.Ar.6869
@Estee.Ar.6869 Жыл бұрын
Thanks JT for sharing that story. That was an ugly and painful experience!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
So true
@tammyg8031
@tammyg8031 Жыл бұрын
So glad that so many are leaving and waking up. Never to return again
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Never
@gigs2riches892
@gigs2riches892 Жыл бұрын
Can't beat City Hall...🙃 Glad y'all didnt give up. I'm sure he wreaked havoc wherever he went.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
So true
@howardboyd7764
@howardboyd7764 Жыл бұрын
Great storytelling brother JT, I literally visualized the scenarios as you described them........
@bk12ist
@bk12ist Жыл бұрын
First 😂🎉 ! one of the best ex jw channel
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 Жыл бұрын
Keep Exposing the Lies Abuse Hypocrisy Divination and Corruption!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Will do
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 Жыл бұрын
@@ExJWCriticalThinker Appreciated Blessings to you Family
@futureofhealthforlife
@futureofhealthforlife Жыл бұрын
My favorite couple that drops the gems
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Trying to keep it real
@mimid.6675
@mimid.6675 Жыл бұрын
I'm an ex bethelite who just loves your bethel stories... The Nairobi,Kenya branch Branch Committee Coordinator ( black American) was a voting member and flew first class to Brooklyn every year to attend the annual meeting The voting American brother was very powerful ..he had close connections to the Governing Body and it was so obvious that the other brothers on the branch committee ( especially the local brothers )had no voice . The Zone Overseer gave a talk saying that the position of the Branch Committee Chairman rotated each year with every brother on the branch committee having a turn...he went on to say that Brother H was not the leader...but we know it was all bs , Brother H was the Coordinator regardless of who was the chairman... A few years ago,he and all the branch committee was removed and replaced with new members, all westerners except one local brother .. That was after the GB had instructed branch offices to downsize the number of bethelites and the Nairobi Branch Committee did not comply. The powerful coordinator was sent back to New York bethel...I doubt he has any power there. The rest were sent to the field .
@tinahill2134
@tinahill2134 Жыл бұрын
Thank you JT, I really enjoyed this down load 😊
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Wow!!!!! Hey that is so common Tick off Someone back in NY and you will pay for it At least he was not sent to the FIELD
@mimid.6675
@mimid.6675 Жыл бұрын
@@ExJWCriticalThinker Being sent to the FIELD would have hit him and wife so hard...they hardly ever went preaching, door knocking , they mostly got in their time in comfort from studies who were referred to them , studies who came to bethel for their studies . After waking up ,I learned that even Rutherford never went door knocking ...and doubt that the GB do it either.
@heribahati
@heribahati Жыл бұрын
@@mimid.6675 Hi mimi, interesting to hear a Kenyan side of the story. Been to Nairobi bethel several times as a visitor. I quit the organisation 2 years ago.
@mimid.6675
@mimid.6675 Жыл бұрын
@@heribahati Good for you 😊 Freedom is sweet
@CanadianLoveKnot
@CanadianLoveKnot Жыл бұрын
When I moved, I joined a new congregation, and I don't think I had even been announced yet, maybe a month or two had gone by. One meeting they were holding a vote for something, and I was unclear on what it was for, as I did not have the backstory. So I simply did not vote, I just kept my hand down. Unfortunately I sit near the front of the hall, so basically everyone noticed. One sister my age (who knew me from when I was little) walked by me and gave me a dirty looked and asked if I was trying to be a rebel. Then an elders wife thought I was falling out of the truth and was deeply concerned about me. She was relieved after to learn why I did not vote. She then explained to me that you don't need to know what it's for, the body of elders had already reviewed the proposal and this is what they were recommending and we were to just go along with it. lol
@yisel-yaaz5689
@yisel-yaaz5689 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, as a teenager I knew there was favoritism in the hall. Smh 🤦‍♀️
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Yep even as kids we saw it but by the time we are adults we have LEARNED TO KEEP our mouths close about what we see
@rmh490
@rmh490 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I am PIMO (M.S). I remember the first time I visited bethel in Dominican Republic back in 2013, I almost had a anxiety attack due to how strict it was. I never went back. Thank you JT for shedding the light
@KefashWhite
@KefashWhite Жыл бұрын
You are brave to be a PIMO and watch channels like these. I used to feel like I was committing the highest crime.
@rmh490
@rmh490 Жыл бұрын
@@KefashWhite it wasn't easy at first but I have a few other brothers and sisters that are also PIMO and we share our thoughts, anger and frustration. But at First it was very scary. I was able to let go of the " apostate" fear by listen to JT and other channels like this. Now I make Peace with it. My friends and I think " the only way out of this organisation is through it" so I will remain a M.S Pimo so I can help waking up other friends and family
@KefashWhite
@KefashWhite Жыл бұрын
@@rmh490 I’m glad to know you have others at the hall you can confide in. The hardest part for me as a PIMO was preaching to others in the ministry. Then one Sunday while leaving the ministry I asked myself if this is what I really want to be doing with my life. Then I met someone online who helped me out without getting disfellowship. I’ve lost contact with him but I’m truly greatly him. I hope you continue to be strong in helping those you can as a PIMO.
@rmh490
@rmh490 Жыл бұрын
@@KefashWhite thank you my man. The reason why I haven't left is that I realized that the brothers and sisters are all victims of the GB lies and watchtower propaganda like I was. I don't want to abandon them. But I will try to help as many as I can. Maybe they will not waste their whole life for this organization
@freddyray6805
@freddyray6805 Жыл бұрын
​@Coolio R I hope you have a way to escape of living a lie for much longer and not entice others that know nothing about the JW ecosystem to join. Stop your contributions and inviting people to the hall or the website. That's the best start.
@tracyslover7302
@tracyslover7302 Жыл бұрын
JT…I just love listening about your experiences and to your comments and thoughts! Thank you to you and Lady Cee!!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening
@stoobpendous
@stoobpendous Жыл бұрын
It's amazing that the big shots at HQ would put the peace of a congregation in jeopardy for the sake of politics after all the big talk they make about unity.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Great point R&F JW ALWAYS GET CUT SHORT
@HelloHello-cr4yk
@HelloHello-cr4yk Жыл бұрын
Yeah politics exist in the organization. I was one of the victims
@nadinedavies698
@nadinedavies698 Жыл бұрын
It’s a good boys club!
@steezyblu
@steezyblu Жыл бұрын
Critical thinkers and Barbara Anderson should collaborate and tell Bethel stories. This stuff is awesome
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Her and joe stayed with us when they came thru DC JOE was my bethel elder in the plumbing shop We go way back Their son and I came in around the same time Joe was there as a single man And come back after their sin was grown Yep the WHOLE family was at bethel
@steezyblu
@steezyblu Жыл бұрын
@@ExJWCriticalThinker hopefully it can happen. I’ve been seeing her do live streams recently.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
My favorite videos!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it
@akatheheretic3014
@akatheheretic3014 Жыл бұрын
In a Word . . . AMAZING !!! 🙆 Reminds me of the Corporate Accounts Service Division of Chase Manhattan Bank !! 🏦 ( Back in the '80's ) 🤦
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Bingo
@vaughnwoss4990
@vaughnwoss4990 Жыл бұрын
What a very captivating video! It's so informative and highly exciting. Great thanks to you JT. I'm eagerly waiting for another episode ASAP.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!😊
@chrisowenssff4876
@chrisowenssff4876 Жыл бұрын
I was never an elder, only the son and grandson of elders. But from the bits and pieces I overhead, this was microcosm of what went on behind closed doors of elder's meetings. Feud and political infighting.
@vusimngomezulu2500
@vusimngomezulu2500 Жыл бұрын
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses????????????
@Aylysh
@Aylysh Жыл бұрын
I actually was invited to the 2012 annual meeting at WT Farm in Wallkill. It was horrid. Sat in that auditorium for 6 hours listening to a half dozen of the governing body try to explain their new idea of "generation". I went home that day with a numb mind. One year later I was officially out.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
I wish I could been there
@hektorlinko
@hektorlinko Жыл бұрын
Wow what a crazy story! Doesn't sound much like religious stuff as it sounds more like business corporation and politics with board of directors with corporate decision meetings etc. Damn I felt like a kid in story time. This video is great and I was on the edge of my seat listening to your story. PLEASE PLEASE Keep these videos coming as they are so eye opening and entertaining at the same time. Curious to see if there are still many more ugly stories coming up. Anyway Great Awesome video JT. Much love and mad respect. A++++ Thumbs UP as always. : )
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Just trying to shed some of the backend stories on so many things that impacted our lives
@pocahontas4583
@pocahontas4583 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Just sounds like a business, country club or fraternity. Very much a popularity contest and power plays.
@rocker1889
@rocker1889 Жыл бұрын
Thanks JT! These behind-the-scenes stories are so interesting. I could listen to you talk for hours about this stuff.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Too funny Hey just sharing what I saw and lived that's all
@futureofhealthforlife
@futureofhealthforlife Жыл бұрын
What a story, love your stories JT.
@bernardleatmon121
@bernardleatmon121 Жыл бұрын
Love it, Bro JT
@DoctorWhoNo1A
@DoctorWhoNo1A Жыл бұрын
Also this same elder was to give a talk out of town and for whatever reason, he asked me to substitute. I assumed he had let the PO/talk coordinator know per standard protocol. Boy was I wrong! I give the talk, the friends there welcomed me and thanked me warmly for the visit. At my next home meeting, the PO gave me a good talking to about not informing him that I was giving a talk out of town. I never made that assumption again! Even when other elders asked me to substitute and assured me that they already let the PO know, I double checked it and made sure.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Simply amazing
@shaunnkosana6893
@shaunnkosana6893 Жыл бұрын
JT you're a great story teller. I'm sure I would have enjoyed your talks 😁 Keep up the good work brother. Much love from South Africa 🇿🇦
@kirkpeters8043
@kirkpeters8043 Жыл бұрын
It takes time to detox from Watchtower.
@Brains60099
@Brains60099 Жыл бұрын
Why did WT hide those information from people? After watching this video, it is the same like CEO run business. I have goosebump .
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
This is a business that is why you see so many similarities
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 Жыл бұрын
Great Job Family Truth!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Hey Fam!!!
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 Жыл бұрын
@@ExJWCriticalThinker Appreciate your Courage Experience and Wisdom
@vusimngomezulu2500
@vusimngomezulu2500 Жыл бұрын
​@@ExJWCriticalThinker Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????????
@vusimngomezulu2500
@vusimngomezulu2500 Жыл бұрын
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses????????????
@michaelmaston4702
@michaelmaston4702 Жыл бұрын
Voting Member...a fancy term for Shareholder.
@ohenry2
@ohenry2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the war stories Brother! It's ALWAYS interesting to hear. As a former elder, I can relate to the turmoil that affects the entire body and congregation. The infighting and power struggles. It's one of the things that helped to see that JWs were not God's chosen organization. Keep dropping those jewels JT! Much love to you and Lady Cee from the ATL!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thanks but it is so sad how many elders due to their status they stay
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thz
@irenethomas1181
@irenethomas1181 Жыл бұрын
Love to you and Lady C, keep up the good work.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
We will!
@dwilson943
@dwilson943 Жыл бұрын
Hey JT! We have P. Ellingsworth as our D.O. back in 98-00. Back in IL, he was supposed to be one of my instructor for pioneer school back in 99 but someone else ended up doing it.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
He often would talk in private conversations but just could not leave Lots of folks have told me over the years that he knew where a lot of the bodies are buried
@cleareyesandopenmind9054
@cleareyesandopenmind9054 Жыл бұрын
The entire organization sounds like a multi-level marketing scheme, with everyone chasing an unattainable dream.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Well put
@musclebymike1382
@musclebymike1382 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, my mom is kind of lost right now, we talk about the things going on at the Hall and she thinks "Jehovah is cleaning his organization" I tell my mom, "I don't think this was every Jehovah organization" We got caught up in a business turned religion slash cult.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Sad but true but she has a lot INVESTED so what you say can't be true or else it means she wasted her time Hard pill to swallow
@musclebymike1382
@musclebymike1382 Жыл бұрын
@@ExJWCriticalThinker Here's what I don't understand, my Mom push all 7 kids into college, she did not listen to the elders. She always believed there was nothing wrong with celebrating birthday". She even knew about 607 was not right. I'm thinking to myself., why did you continue to go attend meetings if you didn't agree with everything. She still thinks the governing body is of the anointed. I asked her "How do you know, she reads bible scripts, I say "No Mom, how do you know those 7 men in NY are anointed. She can't answer the question. My mom compares the new world translation to Kings James and New American Standard Bible she has found how words have change, or added. This is deeply imbedded in her mind. It's scary sometimes.
@Maria-tw2mn
@Maria-tw2mn Жыл бұрын
Press and hold Select to Create
@DisRizTVMedia
@DisRizTVMedia Жыл бұрын
@JT 18:37… 😂 😆 😂 I said it at the same time with you… if the DO visited… the congregation was in trouble. Hahahahahahaha! Great video JT and Lady Cee. Have a Great Week.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
O yea that what it means
@DisRizTVMedia
@DisRizTVMedia Жыл бұрын
@@ExJWCriticalThinker our congregation was in the hood… EngleWood to be exact. The D.O. wasn’t coming to visit us.. and if he did, he didn’t stay for long. 😂 😆 😂 Great video like always JT and Lady Cee. Take Care.
@maxhengst2252
@maxhengst2252 Жыл бұрын
Part of the reason why I left was I couldn't take the politics. I thought we were all equal until I went to Bethel.
@Mary-id9ip
@Mary-id9ip Жыл бұрын
No one can tell a story like you JT! Love to hear the inner workings of the Watchtower Society…
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thz
@sandrab.5112
@sandrab.5112 Жыл бұрын
I love to listen to your stories. Have been a JW for 35 and this helps me so much dealing with my traumatic past. Thank you so much. Greeting from Germany
@anthonymalfino1
@anthonymalfino1 Жыл бұрын
Best one yet JT, and Lady C period. Was not a heavy. But was heavily recruited by Anthony Morris and John Eckraan. Keep it up. Love the format
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thx
@farmgirl2cr
@farmgirl2cr Жыл бұрын
This was soooo good...Thank you. If people would just take time and look around and listen, you will see and hear things which are wrong. Some people are just waiting to get others in trouble. Like they are lying on wait. Made me so sad that some were so gullible. Blew my mind. Just kept thinking this isn't right. JT and Lady C thank you for everything and your time involved. Please take care.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Great post Charlene you hit the nail on the head
@jsilvanus240
@jsilvanus240 Жыл бұрын
The word goveringbody NEVER mentioned in the BIBLE..
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Very true
@kenmayo7974
@kenmayo7974 Жыл бұрын
Talk about "pulling the curtain back". Thanks for sharing this story!
@curtainsup9
@curtainsup9 Жыл бұрын
JT, thank you for sharing your stories. Always interesting and informative. You have my fav ex jw channel!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening
@Mr_Dapperport
@Mr_Dapperport Жыл бұрын
… and now your chairman. Lol 😂 Man JT, I can just listen to you tell stories or explain your perspective on JW behaviors and practices. You break it down so we’ll, clearly understand and you make us feel we’re right there with you experiencing this matter. Again thank you for sharing your story.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thanks just trying to keep it real
@dawnbehatin1224
@dawnbehatin1224 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation ❤
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thx
@pruephillip1338
@pruephillip1338 Жыл бұрын
One of the most engaging and interesting talks on any KZbin video, not just JW's. Well done.
@freddyray6805
@freddyray6805 Жыл бұрын
Jt I was one of those that humbly in some occasions voted against as I knew it meant nothing and it didn't have to be unanimous. I helped in the accounts for some years and knew that money had already been spent. I didn't question back then. And yes, I was "taught humulity" by many times low paid, low educated people that thought they had some god given right to tell others how to behave. Venting
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Priceless Loved it Great post folks
@JamesIsnow
@JamesIsnow 10 ай бұрын
@16:07 that high pitch " Who she talking about" GOT ME DEAD!!!! LOL
@nicfre1804
@nicfre1804 Жыл бұрын
This is a great episode!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@winstonpeters8676
@winstonpeters8676 Жыл бұрын
Interesting , who knew all the backroom disunity
@96t5wagon
@96t5wagon Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Man, this is a great series and I appreciate you guys sharing with us.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Keeping it real
@sanderooij
@sanderooij Жыл бұрын
Standing ovation from Holland to you!! Thank you for providing the inside information about the way of working of the "society" This was very insightfull! Your closing words are very true! I am going to keep that in mind while writing my letter to the "Branche". Thank you!!
@Elroi3310
@Elroi3310 Жыл бұрын
Kom terug bij Jehovah
@madamecurious
@madamecurious Жыл бұрын
JT - what a story!!!! Thank you for sharing this incredibly important information with us. 💙We were entrapped in a manmade organization and didn’t know it. I’m glad that I can “see” clearly now and I hope many, many more will find your channel and find their way out as well.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Yes it's good we can see it for what it is
@phil6740
@phil6740 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy hearing the experiences at bethel. Ironically learn more about what bethel was like from your channel then all the years as a jw. Didn't know any bethelires or the few I did weren't very approachable
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Some guys get arrogant said to say You have seen that MS who gets appointed all of a sudden can't hang with you or get REAL RIGHTEOUS all of a sudden
@nicfre1804
@nicfre1804 Жыл бұрын
Great insight! Thank you for sharing!!
@mayraurdaz7235
@mayraurdaz7235 Жыл бұрын
Great episode!
@elainebraindrain3174
@elainebraindrain3174 Жыл бұрын
Thank you😊
@clementmabunda3131
@clementmabunda3131 Жыл бұрын
Another interesting episode...
@laxonetrc
@laxonetrc Жыл бұрын
Thanks JT
@michaelwinkler7841
@michaelwinkler7841 Жыл бұрын
Awesome editing 😄💪🏼
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thank LADY C
@michaelwinkler7841
@michaelwinkler7841 Жыл бұрын
@@ExJWCriticalThinker great talent!
@jessicacaldwell6262
@jessicacaldwell6262 Жыл бұрын
I hope to see the Demise of this man made WT organization go down in my lifetime !!! 👍👍🏼😊
@gladysbarbour1472
@gladysbarbour1472 Жыл бұрын
Amazing
@DietlindeJanssen
@DietlindeJanssen Жыл бұрын
Amazing what you have experienced in all these years...! You could write your memoirs! We get an insight into what really goes on behind the curtains! I am so thankful to have been born a woman...truly saved from even more misery! Thank you for the good job you do...All my Love to you both!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@onsearchfocus
@onsearchfocus Жыл бұрын
Loved the story.
@juanreyes9824
@juanreyes9824 Жыл бұрын
JT you are a very honest person thank you and keep doing your good work.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Trying to keep it real
@juanreyes9824
@juanreyes9824 Жыл бұрын
@@ExJWCriticalThinker yes you did, I went through something similar I understand you perfectly.
@ronaldcorinth4746
@ronaldcorinth4746 Жыл бұрын
Just love to hear you, man Great story
@Mintjulep3
@Mintjulep3 Жыл бұрын
I remember Paul Illingsworth, he was our D.O. when I lived in Akron, OH. It’s crazy how I knew about a lot of the politics in the organization but didn’t really put it all together until I finally left 🤦🏾‍♀️
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Bingo All we had were lots of HALVES but know WHOLES We just could never put the puzzle together and see the whole picture that we on the box cover Lol
@m.arnold717
@m.arnold717 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Just goes to show, people are people regardless of position. Keep the videos coming!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
You bet!
@harryn2304
@harryn2304 3 ай бұрын
This story is ABSOLUTELY GOLD!!!!
@TheVillainOfTheYear
@TheVillainOfTheYear Жыл бұрын
The annual meeting usually refers to the Pennsylvania corporation, does it not? You never really hear much about the New York corporation. Does that entity still have annual meetings?
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Great question Wt has so many bogus corporation nowadays it is unreal The big two are the PA and the NY ONE
@TheVillainOfTheYear
@TheVillainOfTheYear Жыл бұрын
@@ExJWCriticalThinker thank you! Do you happen to know anything about if the NY corporation meets or how that goes? Are there separate NY voting members or are they the same as the PA members? Do CCJW and the other corporate instruments have the same voting members again? These are the things that keep me up at night. As you obviously already know, they use these corporations for legal shell games to hide things from the government. WTPA can't answer the question because that's a question for CCJW. Wouldn't the authorities like to know if they were actually all the same people? Lol. JT & Lady Cee, you're my favorite channel on KZbin. Thank you for all you do.
@chesterfrancis7699
@chesterfrancis7699 Жыл бұрын
Another great video!❤
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thx
@itsjustme6315
@itsjustme6315 9 ай бұрын
Wow! It's always interesting to hear info from the Elder's Cronicals!
@hec123567
@hec123567 Жыл бұрын
Thank you JT for this. I saw some of these politics at Bethel. I too worked in the binary from 1999-2002
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
O yea we saw it but knew better than to talk about it
@paulconcadora9395
@paulconcadora9395 Жыл бұрын
Great points, and video, as is clear to say, what separates the watchtowers society from the worldly organizations, as clear as it is, people in high places with friends at the top level positions of the worldly and the watchtowers society, it's business as usual for the top ranking heads. And even more so of this day, like the movie above the law
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Bingo
@juan3zz
@juan3zz Жыл бұрын
Wow! That was great JT- very informative; and presented in a very interesting way.
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 Жыл бұрын
I would rate this video as the best ever, for this reason, stuff shared was totally new to me. I was always wondering how the WT held votes and why should it when everything is directed by the Holy Spirit. Thanks JT, for sharing the secrets we would never have found out unless one shares them with us. 👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it So really it is just a manmade org
@DavidTaylor-ki2ir
@DavidTaylor-ki2ir Жыл бұрын
Great stories JT! Thanks for sharing!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thz
@planetx5269
@planetx5269 Жыл бұрын
That was really enlightening and interesting. Thank you.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thx
@projectbreadwinners2942
@projectbreadwinners2942 Жыл бұрын
These kinda videos from JT are BY FAR AND AWAY my fav kind from this channel. Love all the content but these in particular are great.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thx
@aj7009
@aj7009 Жыл бұрын
You're so right 👍
@Cristina-xy8mg
@Cristina-xy8mg Жыл бұрын
I love the life at bethel series, keep it up please! Jt u are an amazing storyteller
@joshuaryan1946
@joshuaryan1946 Жыл бұрын
Very valuable experiences! And well related.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thx
@sifisovic7
@sifisovic7 Жыл бұрын
I Love your stories, peering behind the curtain
@mcbrayerok
@mcbrayerok Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video to the full! Very well put together! Thanks for sharing the many experiences!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@UKS12345
@UKS12345 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@HelloHello-cr4yk
@HelloHello-cr4yk Жыл бұрын
Same thing with our previous co who still keep on continuing to serve despite of spiritual damage to elders and members of the cong.
@darryltalley5871
@darryltalley5871 Жыл бұрын
I love your content. You tell the best stories. Fascinating
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@KQH8
@KQH8 Жыл бұрын
JT is a wealth of knowledge and information about the behind the scenes goings on regarding this cult, I am so appreciative of the information that you and Lady Cee provide in such detail, absolutely amazing.
@andracadicecrawford4256
@andracadicecrawford4256 Жыл бұрын
YA'LL WAS SOME COOOL BETHEL DUDES!!! I LOOOOVE IT
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker Жыл бұрын
Worldly jw we were told Lol
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