Jehovah's Witnesses - Life at Bethel Episode 9

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JT shares his experiences on his life at Bethel. He discusses the history behind certain Watchtower and Awake articles that were triggered by events at Bethel.
1) Debased Music
2) Practical Jokes
3) The Snake Did Not Talk to Eve in the Garden
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[@CanadianLoveKnot]

All the music that the Bethal brothers threw out that day in 1983, would now be considered wholesome and acceptable music today.

[@davidwicklin9943]

🎯🎯 🎯🎯 🎯🎯 🎯🎯 🎯

[@Bananahammock88]

The light got brighter

[@marshajanulis6092]

sorry I dont agree, although the organization's songbook music has changed bad influence is still bad influence; earth wind and fire or heavy d still would be considered questionable lyrics...and what I threw out myself in 1984 such as the stones and queen would still be looked down on as satanic music

[@CanadianLoveKnot]

@@marshajanulis6092 questionable to whom, God or men?

[@davidwicklin9943]

@@marshajanulis6092 How about some Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath blasting in front of the Chicago south suburban kingdom halls Martha? Or let's compromise on playing some Whitesnake as substitutes for "Song of Solomon" type of "kingdom melodies".🤣😂

[@brucerobertson2466]

Y'all were bumping that Run DMC lol

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

One of my favorite "WTF?!" moments was reading the article about music in the November 8, 1977 Awake! magazine where it says: "If an innocent social gathering deteriorates into a sexual orgy, it may well be that it was not just the alcohol but also *the music played* that contributed to it." I was like "Damn! Where were these social gathering taking place? And most importantly, why wasn't I invited?"

[@alomaalber6514]

yeah, how did we miss that one!

[@ERNIE555]

Efrain Rivera Junior 😂😂😂😂😂never was invited either 😉😉

[@TonyExumJr]

Lol

[@woodyglendell7400]

😁🎵🎶😁

[@groovy9125]

Efrain Rivera Junior - Actually, when I was in the cult, the parties were rather interesting. They probably cracked down on them in later years. OMG, you’d be DF’d today for the slow dancing we used to do!!! But I always counted my time at those parties. 😱😂😱😂

[@tmalone2530]

“Debasing Music” - man if I had a penny for how many times I heard that term in public talks I’d be an eternal billionaire. Imagine growing up in the 70’s and 80’s with all that amazing music just to have it confiscated!

[@shuroddaniels8052]

I remember when a study of debasing turned into, "I hate that rap music."

[@shuroddaniels8052]

That's what happens when you decide to let a bunch of old white guys dictate your life.

[@blahblah2blahblah260]

@Ranetta Maxwell funny thing is.. biggie used to be a jw😂

[@blahblah2blahblah260]

@Ranetta Maxwell in that biggie smalls documentary it was described as him being raised in the jws as a kid so I think he was baptized

[@spreadlove8947]

And biggie mom a JW too

[@JWEscape]

So that’s why my elder dad came home and busted up all my albums when I was a teenager that one day!!!. It all now makes sense!

[@jeffpeff]

JW Escape My elder dad took my Frampton Comes Alive album, and gave it to a “worldly” co-worker of his. Just because of the cover. He said “he has purple hair.” I said “it’s just the stage lighting.” But nope, the next day it was gone. Elders suck.

[@groovy9125]

Jeff Peff - And my parents threw my Chess Set away. Some article came out denouncing the game of Chess as equivalent to a war game. OMG, just be glad you’re free from this sick cult!

[@jasmineduran6731]

Groovy I find the chess issue weird cause I remember a brother and his son and another brother playing chess.

[@slayerdearly]

I hope you disowned your dad after that

[@theirregularpioneerchannel1804]

Growing up I listened to A LOT of Earth Wind and Fire because they were my Mom’s favorite group. When I got older I use to DJ at Witness gatherings, parties, weddings, etc. I remember at one gathering when I was a Ministerial Servant I played a Michael Jackson song (Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough) and then right after an Earth Wind and Fire song (Getaway). The older witnesses there almost died from embarrassment 😂... best believe i got a tap on the shoulder and some “counsel” after that.

[@dantoinettetaylor1663]

Irregular Pioneer thank God you are back!

[@jenellecooper7585]

year1914 what are you talking about?

[@theirregularpioneerchannel1804]

Jenelle Cooper that person is a weirdo who is obsessed with leaving hate comments on videos of people who dont believe what they do. They mad cause i dont hate gay people 😂

[@BixbyLBC]

I remember one of my cousins ( a fake JW, cherry picked what she did and didn't want to do) told me that Earth Wind and Fire worshipped the devil. She went on to say that a few witnesses went to their concert and towards the middle, the lead singer stopped the show and said they were about to pay hommage to satan and all Christians need to leave especially JW's......I was a kid back then so I believed it and for years I thought it was horrible to listen to their music....To this day that cousin is one of the biggest liars, gossiping and thieving people I know.....Haven't talked to her in 10 yrs...so far so good on not ever having anything to do with her......

[@theirregularpioneerchannel1804]

BixbyLBC i’ve heard that story about EWF so many times from witnesses. I remember my aunt told me that story. And even back then it sounded completely made up 😂

[@brucerobertson2466]

I remember the practical joke article, spoiled a lot of fun

[@davidwicklin9943]

I remember in the '90s when a watchtower article bashed even socially positive rap music like what Public Enemy did condemning racism and police brutality as Watchtower focused on the cusswords and seeming "rebelliousness" or "disrespect for authority" as justification for their warped condemnation. Some of us threw out our entire music collections thanks to Watchtower's fake authoritarian nonsense.

[@Broknchainz]

When I visited Bethel I saw it like a “frat house”. The majority of Bethelites I met spent their free nights and weekends drinking, dancing, and partying. I was with them! So much for the “godly house”, lol.

[@WJTM88]

Maya Nunya bingo

[@cardboardbox9977]

We had to to keep our sanity

[@al-pz5nh]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKmyZoyga6t2qpo A&E features Jehovah’s Witness

[@willyb933]

What a great channel!! Right from the source man! I remember back in the '80s my wife threw out all my Rolling Stones records. I'm looking for them one day and I said to her wheres my Stones records?? Nothing...silence, I guess that was spiritual warfare. Anyway, she's still there, I'm all gone!! Got off of that cloud! 👄👅😎

[@woodyglendell7400]

👍👌

[@mattmatthewmatchuu]

I remember when they mentioned motley crew and beastie boys in a wt study article. Probably 1994

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

This was an awesome episode, 🤣😂🤣😂

[@amazingbibleantiquities7221]

JT & Lady Cee, l hope you and your loved ones are doing well during this period of panic, uncertainty and anxiety. You mean a lot to a lot of people (including me). God bless. 🙂

[@bbaxton]

LOL! I know that OHIO Players album cover. The one my parents would not let me look at the cover as a child! What a Bethlite had that one? - LOL! The pillows at Bethel probably needed saving from that time forward - LOL!

[@williamhinton2148]

Thank JR and Lady C I knew thats how it went down .My buddy Jeff told me about this years ago. But to hear it now give Jeff ligetimizacy. I always believe but now I have proff thanks, true friend I knew this day would finally come.

[@WJTM88]

William Hinton bethel is not really like JW are lead to believe Much like all those Loving Congo that they told us about Yea right JT

[@mrs.r.1467]

Very interesting. I remember in the early 80’s our PO telling me I had to get rid of my Menudo records (boy band from Puerto Rico) and all he would say was the music was “worldly”. I refused to throw them out because he wouldn’t give me a valid reason. Guess I was a rebel from the beginning 😜

[@jokich6379]

Really do not like the term "worldly". Appreciated that JWs crossed all national and ethnic barriers. But they created their own divisions or caste systems- worldly, apostate, elder, pioneer, GB, Bethelite.

[@cheryljones7343]

I'm old enough to remember the Ohio Players - and I definitely had the Honey album. Still boggles my mind that my parents allowed me to have it

[@Anjie94565]

They probably liked the music.

[@bladynieogolonyw3115]

It was actually one of my first doubts when I was a teenager (is the questions from readers are really from readers)

[@sovern009]

In the South Eastern US, the Jehovah's Witnesses "RUMORED", (..because that's what they control their following with), that EARTH WIND and FIRE where DEMONIZED..!! For the record.?? EARTH WIND & FIRE, are an amazing soul music group, that many African Americans(DOS) describe having good memories too this great musical Group..

[@akatheheretic3014]

@sovern009 By the time that same rumor hit Bronx NY ; Earth , Wind and Fire was said to be dismissing JW'S from their concerts , Over the 🎤. . From the Stage ! (Suggesting they may want to leave cause"it's about to "jump off" in here")😈. I kid you not! 😁

[@sovern009]

@@akatheheretic3014 ......Then those who stayed got a good laugh, and the the band kept playing music. I heard the same thing happened at a John Denver concert too..!

[@cherylseebreth3926]

I've always wondered how the celebrity JWs are not kicked out. Prince, MJ ( all the gyrations, ding dong grabbing) Serena, Venus ( sexy clothing, competitive sports) My mother was scolded for allowing my brother to participate in track because Jehovah did not approve of competition.

[@WJTM88]

Cheryl Seebreth that double standard is alive and well

[@jeffpeff]

Cheryl Seebreth Celebrity JWs are rich, and donate a lot of money to Watchtower. If you donate a lot of money to Watchtower, then you can do whatever you want. It’s always about the money.

[@cherylseebreth3926]

@@jeffpeff On the nail.

[@ericolmos7816]

Great video JT! I'm so glad I left that cult years ago best decision I have ever made for sure!!

[@dangelotringali7527]

JW Leaders: Don't listen to inappropriate music... ME: Bangs my head to "Private Dancer."

[@derekjoye6417]

All Kingdom hall closed!!!

[@dawnelizabeth1828]

Yay, yahoo, yehaw and yippee when all the Kingdumb lol Hells lol close!

[@kennethwalton6]

Love these videos!! Its exactly how I thought Bethel was growing up!

[@anonymousvon5159]

How can a religion that called itself the truth do some many phony things? Thank you JT and Lady Cee for making great videos.

[@queue555]

He's full of it. Yall are sooo gullible.

[@woodyglendell7400]

@@queue555 TRIGGERED again, my sweet? ROFLMAO!!

[@queue555]

@@woodyglendell7400 yeah, right back at you. So funny isnt it. Grow up.

[@woodyglendell7400]

@@queue555 Aawww poor babeeee it hurt. 😆

[@cherylseebreth3926]

@@queue555Tweety Bird, Why do you subject yourself to so much blows from exjws. You don't know your religion. You don't understand the dialogues on the forum. Open your and close your mouth. You are bound to learn from us happy apostates.

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

A public LP/DVD/Cassette Burning... that's hardcore. The Catholic Church would be proud.

[@brucerobertson2466]

That's the movie 1984 to the core. Bet they have cameras in rooms now and blacklights. The Ohio Players covers were risque lol. That music is tame by today's standards.

[@dawnelizabeth1828]

Aww, I love the edutainment lol, encouragement and comments back at me.Take care, love you, thanks again and you're welcome.

[@dawnelizabeth1828]

You rock, this is a subject near and dear to my heart.I forgot, oversleezers lol.

[@brolytard4life441]

Your series puts a smile on my face. Thanks for the music tip. Found am hour+ vid on Sugarfoot. He's fantastic!

[@jazzminejackson9181]

JT is too funny...I'm thinking about Cameo and the taste of honey album. I was too young to be listening to the honey album..lol

[@shuroddaniels8052]

THE "Question from Readers" explanation made sense b/c I really didn't think WT and Awake magazines had that much world circulation to solicit that much of a response from "readers."

[@alomaalber6514]

note they no longer have the "questions" column. it was too good!

[@GirlGeekLovesStampin]

I was a commuter so I didn’t know that. Could you lock your cabinets so that no one could go through your stuff? That seems disrespectful of your privacy. Great topic!

[@beautyRest1]

Earth, wind &Fire were in the early 70’s in Frankfurt/Germany. I gave Maurice White the “Truthbook”. I’m also a huge fan of them!

[@WJTM88]

Beauty Rest wow. That was huge in wt world to say one gave a wt publication to someone famous As JW we felt we had accomplished the mission of God That should have earned you a part on the assembly for sure. Lol Thanks for sharing

[@marcusgreene5588]

I remember when i was a kid, one guy brought a rap tape to the hall. Some kid told, the elders bust in the bathroom and demanded the tape.

[@MonaLisa-yb9bq]

OMG. My ex told me about a prank at the Canadian Bethel in the late 70s. A brother was in the johnny-on-the-spot and another brother got the crane and hoisted the toilet up into the air and kept it suspended. The brother opened the door and almost fell out. He could have broken a leg if he had fallen. Stupid pranks. Also, there's a scripture where God tells Israelites not to put on the garments of the opposite sex. Yet at Canada Bethel, they had a party and a few brothers dressed up as women and did a song and dance routine. Gross.

[@alomaalber6514]

wow the old fashioned drag show. theatre history is full of men doing that show, frats, centuries old comedy. just wow!

[@juschilln4904]

😂😂😂 the snake used body language, wow 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@reinaldofranco2966]

Great video JT, my congregation was 45 mts away from Bethel but there must have been a few friends that had friends in bethel because we were told as kids what music not to listen and they would be specific with the artists name. I’m glad I’m out now I can listen to all that music I enjoyed as a kid but couldn’t listen because of Society 😀😀

[@groovy9125]

Reinaldo Franco - My congregation in Queens was also about 45 minutes from Bethel.

[@mump68]

I remember that series of talks as a teenager. I also remember from that point forward me having a little space were I hid all my “debasing “ music. Prince,Hendrix,Zeppelin and my NWOHM records. Lol.

[@Lyfesdance]

Lol Nooooo not Heavy D!!! How you gona be mad at the lyrics “ I GOT NOTHING BUT LOVE FOR YA BABY”! 🥰.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

😂😂😂

[@TonyExumJr]

Cause...he was the "Overweight Lover" lol!!!!

[@Lyfesdance]

Tony Exum, Jr. lol oh yeah that’s right. 🤣

[@vaughnwoss4990]

Ridiculous GB with their "theocratic warfare" lies!! 😃😃.Thanks JT for this great video. Always a pleasure watching you and Lady Cee.

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

That 'Practical Joke' article had the elders from my former congregation after our collective asses.

[@lovetoread9042]

I see why I became a JW in my adult years. I would not have become JW in 70, 80s and 90s. I loved all those songs. Lol Lol

[@gataheart]

"We get it directly from the .." snake.

[@stephaniea.467]

What do they do now? Make everyone pull out their phone so they can review their playlists? 🙄

[@akatheheretic3014]

Good Question! Which brings to mind , how can they now keep (those so inclined) from having Porn sites on their Smart phones 📲 ??? 🤔

[@queue555]

Oooh yes they do that to me all the time. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@queue555]

@@akatheheretic3014 They cant and dont police peoples phones. This joker is just racking up hits for money off yt. If anyone is fake its him.

[@akatheheretic3014]

@@queue555 Who's racking 💰 off You Tube?? Who's He?

[@davidwicklin9943]

@@queue555 Nice lame ass attempt at being dismissive. Watchtower has Billion$$$$ of dollars and you come on here trolling JT & Lady Cee whether they are making peanuts off of KZbin videos. SMH!

[@박현기-b5i]

so the house keeper, in essence is a gesstapo agent for the head office? you should've just said so :)

[@cherylseebreth3926]

Remember Jehovah wants his people to snitch on one another. I am.sure there is a scripture to back that cultist crazy behaviour.

[@blahblah2blahblah260]

@@cherylseebreth3926 it is I forgot what and where it is but it was to the effect of if you know about anything somebody doing something you are to report it or you would be a accomplice to they're sin.

[@cherylseebreth3926]

@@blahblah2blahblah260 Bet you the verse is an isolated out of context one, as are so many of them.

[@groovy9125]

North Korean mentality!

[@MonaLisa-yb9bq]

My horrid ex husband threw out all of my LPs when we got married in 1981. Yet he would listen to Elvis. I hate the society for hating everything in the world: burning incense, all music, majority of movies, cb radios, etc. I love listening to Rammstein; they're a German metal band. I didn't care if the brothers liked it or not. Infected Mushroom's song, Muse Breaks. And I love the first few albums of Led Zeppelin, and Black Sabbath's Master of Reality.

[@ERNIE555]

D Cee Rammstein 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻and Elvis

[@MonaLisa-yb9bq]

@@ERNIE555 Yeah, he said I was not spiritual and I wanted to tell him that Elvis sings a song, " a hunk, a hunk of burnin' love..." Yeah, and he hated Barbara Streisand. lololol.

[@WJTM88]

D Cee FIRE FIRE !!!! Opening scene in Tripe Xxx they are the band on stage -- Rammstein. Lol Yep I know who,they are. Lol

[@woodyglendell7400]

D Cee. One, here comes the sun 🌞

[@MonaLisa-yb9bq]

@@WJTM88 I love you for that! lol

[@darlenepatrick4619]

I remember that time. I was into music more than watching TV or going to the movies. I remember some sisters coming to my home and telling me I had to get rid of all of my music. I thought how stupid, I'm a grown married woman with kids and y'all acting like I don't know how to handle which music I should listen too. Pathetic.

[@aljawisa]

@49jubilee "how to handle" I think she implied that in her statement.

[@fromwhencecomewars]

When is a "letter from a reader" not a letter from a reader? Just looked up that magazine - No wonder they put an article in there called "Would you spread a rumour?", with a highlighted sentence; "if you spread a rumour you may be spreading a lie". Obviously the Org doesn't want anyone spreading lies, because they don't like competition.

[@queue555]

Yeah thats really the object of the article😂😂😂😂

[@davidwicklin9943]

@@queue555 Start seeing through the bullshit lies of watchtower Tina. They got you so mentally indoctrinated and balls deep brainwashed they've milked you from the inside out.

[@queue555]

@@davidwicklin9943 No they havn't. You lot are the delusional ones. This dude keeps talking about past. Plus its sooooo boring.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

David Wicklin The poster who goes by the handle means well but not much of a critical thinker . Case in point How does a person relate their life experience on a subject matter and it not be something from the PAST? If you share an exp of what happened to you at 25 and now you are forty Would it not be something from the PAST ? Poor thing JT

[@davidwicklin9943]

@@ExJWCriticalThinker Yeah "Tina Smith" caved to the brainwashing and stays in the indoctrination pridefully smoking the spiritual paradise pipe with a daily bong hit trolling your channel among others along with bowing to the unblemished revisionist watchtower history since origins and the past are so important to her/it. She's sooooo bored of your channel JT that she LOVES commenting dozens of times all over your channel alone!🤣😂

[@Depplova81]

The witnesses I grew up around listened to Prince, or some other artists there were at the time. (80's - 2005) I remember I was pushed into a JW talent show/ banquet thing that an elder was hosting. My mother and grandmother made made me participate, so I sang Isobel by Björk... it's pretty tame. But they had a problem because she's weird. Lol But while we were eating, they had music on, and I think it was someone's playlist --- H Town ( Knocking the boots) Clarence Carter ( Stroking ) and R Kelly ( Ignition ) and some other raunchy blues music. They're definitely one to talk about what music they deem inappropriate. Lol

[@southernbawselady7092]

I ❤️ love me some H - Town!! I had to hide all my music from my "fanatical" JW parents!! 😂😂😂

[@susancurrie9246]

I hear you JT love my smooth jazz

[@utubewatcher806]

take me back---'sweet sticky thing'... rollercoaster...

[@susancurrie9246]

Plz I love me some Heavy D in fact have him in my music library

[@eugeneanderson3534]

Even now you have grown people asking elders can they do this or that ... I'm like you are grown and u can't make a simple decision for your self... If the governing body tell them to clap your hands twice a day and rub your elbow these clowns will do it and won't ask why...ITS RIDICULOUS REAL TALK.

[@WJTM88]

Eugene Anderson sad but so true In fact this mental conditioning is so strong it even frustrates the wt at times Why? Cause they have created a dependency that is so strong the JW fills the wt mailbag system with questions like this w96 9/1 p. 21 Living by the Law of the Christ *** At times, some write to the Watch Tower Society asking for rulings on such matters as what view they should have of specific films, books, and even toys ################### They have created mentally handicapped adults

[@alomaalber6514]

hey bet they got NY rock radio stations. the top market!

[@debraallen2132]

JT, you’re gonna love this story . My family went to Bethel and we saw a Bethel boy who was like a brother to us three girls . He smiled and said hello and we ran up to him and gave him a kiss like we always did. He was praying under his breath that we wouldn’t do that cause there was some important elders with him. We didn’t know.

[@WJTM88]

HE almost died, depending on who the elders were THEY PULLED HIM TO THE SIDE LATER LL JT

[@SCD4]

We never use the word "friend" in the UK. More brother or sister.

[@alomaalber6514]

both are used in the states, also the Quakers a 19th century religion, still some today, use the term.

[@WJTM88]

Ranetta Maxwell bingo JT

[@truckdriver8310]

My brother JT

[@WJTM88]

Truck Driver just keeping it real

[@byronofcalgary6985]

anybody know when WT banned Christian hymns ? i'm guessing that went with the ban on Christmas - can't have Christians singing O Come Let Us Adore Him or Amazing Grace

[@tonyspare2468]

That is an amazing behind the scenes view of articles being written! Look how they lie with their examples! We always knew they were doing that but man to see it in real time with them lying about the "hotel worker" and all this stuff. They must do it every time, crazy!

[@marywhite8517]

A lot of us just ignored them. Even though I left more than 30 yrs ago, i still have my albums.

[@esbizzze]

The honey album!!!Yes. Loved it.👅🌍🌪🔥

[@esbizzze]

Did not listen to those idiots. To be fair didn't listen to any of those idiots BS. I was a forced child hostage. Loved my music then and now.

[@BlackGable2u2]

When you started talking about music, you gave me a good chuckle. I remember that issue in the magazine. Now, at the time I was a club DJ. Everyone in my family knew that my record collection is my pride & joy! Till this day my mom & brother will tell you this. I wish the society would tell me to get rid of my music & see my hard earned cash go to waste? I think not. Shucks, they may have had to put me out. I played Donna Summer - Love To Love You, Babe. Any album by Richard Pryor or Wildman Steve. Prince before he became a JW. Same with Larry Graham when he played with Sly & The Family Stone, then with his own group Graham Central Station. I still have all my vinyl and such. The society is full of the brown stuff & I’m not talking about gravy either! Love you guys for all you do!

[@wilshirestrasse2220]

Learned something new. Whoda' thunk? Excellent video 👍

[@theoracle56]

Big Edit: I initially wrote my response as I was doing my strength training for the day. As I am now working from home for an indefinite amount of time, I listen to videos, namely my favorite EXJW videos as I do my strength and weight training. Today was different. After I finished I had to come back and edit my response because your video hit me like a ton of bricks. One of my earliest videos I did was entitled, "My top ten regrets being a Jehovah Witness" and my number one regret was when I was an early teenager and along with my brother David and cousin JoAnn destroyed my grandparents record collection based on a talk we had heard that Sunday. I remember the look of shock and sadness in my Grandmother's face and even now so many years later, it causes me to feel sadness on so many levels. My grandparents are both deceased now, but my grandmother suffered from Alzheimer's/dementia for so many years and the one thing that gave her pleasure and made her smile was MUSIC. She loved James Brown and Etta James, Earth, Wind and Fire, Temptations, Stylistics, Rick James even. When we broke those records we were following what the Watchtower, Tract, and Bible Society were telling us to do...but listening to your video gives a historical perspective I would have never known and it was during that time period that we did it. Thank you for sharing this story, it does help. I always enjoy these videos. I hope you are safe and sound during this time.

[@WJTM88]

The Oracle yes it is sad how we allowed a group of men out of NY to control our lives on every level We all made so many decisions based on what we now know was the most asinine teachings every put together by a group of men sitting around a conference room table JT Lady Cee send love

[@falling043]

Fascinating Series, life at bethel! Thanks for posting

[@loriwatts5463]

One of my favorite channels!!! Always educate in depth n awaken many!! Kindda comical n yet so telling. Love you guys!!

[@justinthyme3396]

I'm an ex jw of 46years, and still listening to THE MIGHTY LED ZEP. 😷🎶🎵🙈🙉🙊

[@catinaclaytor3245]

Could you listen to Micheal Jackson since he was a Jehovah witness in the pass before he was disfellowship for making the thriller video

[@tmalone2530]

Thriller was off-limits in my house but MJ was so big that he wasn’t all the way “banned”. My mother grew up during MJ’s beginnings didn’t become a JW until 1996 so I had the chance to listen to his music for years, thank goodness. My mother ALWAYS made it clear, however, that MJ was a JW. She’d never let me forget that. 😂

[@mattmatthewmatchuu]

Michael jackson wasnt allowed in my family. Most families were similar.

[@TonyExumJr]

I was heartbroken when my mom banned MJ in '87 right after it was announced that he disassociated himself.

[@jasmineduran6731]

catina claytor I don’t know if MJ was disfellowshipped. To me, his father kept him and the other brothers busy so where was the time to study and get dunked? I know there was a constant clash of whether it was okay or not to listen to Michael Jackson. Now looking back, it’s so stupid to worry about whether or not it’s okay to listen to someone just because they make a choice about whether or not they want to be religious.

[@jasmineduran6731]

49jubilee Prince was the best. He was judged by one sister however near the end of his career for how he dressed on the Arsenio Hall Show. JW’s judge people on the stupidest shit.

[@RiskeFactor]

We had the honey LP at our home.

[@muntupoetslegacy7760]

I was influenced by the Watchtower's propaganda and to the that I sold one of the greatest reggae collections in my state. I truly regret selling that priceless collection. I downloaded and recorded much of it on a PC though. Glad I at least have a portion of it to enjoy now. Think for yourself or pay the price...

[@WJTM88]

Muntu Poets Legacy we gave up so much for so little at the end of the day JT

[@BookerTAdams]

I remember in the late 70s early 80s our presiding overseer gave a warning talk about a song by Patti Labelle about a prostitute and he had forbid us to listen to it. I was heartbroken because I love me some Patti Labelle

[@WJTM88]

Booker T. Adams always up in folks business JT

[@dionnefrancis5249]

Thanks Jt .keep em coming.

[@WJTM88]

WILL DO JT

[@ianpuddick]

Elder in my cong gave that talk I remember it well, he gave out a flyer he printed at work with a list of albums & the supposed background of the LP, often the background was just wrong. Alan Parsons Project featured 3x

[@subzrodagr8689]

Thank you for another amazing video.

[@karpogaming]

Hey wzzup,im just checking in on my Critical Thinking Brother and Sister,Hope you and your family is doing well in these trying times,stay safe and i look forward to the next video.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Hi there! Yes, we will be back soon. Hope you’re doing well. Just taking a much needed break. Thanks for checking. 😊

[@KingoftheNorth56]

This video brings back a lot of memories, I used to hang out with a group of brothers that the rules didn’t apply to. We’d go to someone’s house to watch whatever sports game was on at the time and then we would just start drinking nonstop and take a break for a meal and then start drinking again. There was never any music played for fear that our wives might want to join us 🤣, I got rid of a lot of my music but since then I’ve slowly started to rebuild my library. JT, when you mentioned Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin, my wife looks at me and says: What’s wrong with Led Zeppelin?😭 Good times tho…👍

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

😅

[@awakefromthewatchtower8055]

Thanks again for your videos

[@que4069atl]

Wow I never knew a lot of this stuff was and probably still is going on at Bethel. I watch this series watching popcorn. Better than Netflix.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

😎

[@TheCchinc1984]

Love the life at bethel segment!! I myself have wondered who was asking these questions in the questions from readers section. The questions always seemed to contrived and Convenient.

[@WJTM88]

Glad you enjoy it - it's amazing to see as they say HOW THE OTHER HALF LIVES jt

[@jehovisbutty2959]

Ahhh a fellow Jazz fan...My favorite album is Donald Byrd, Places and Spaces (1975)

[@chesterfrancis6737]

Thanks for your videos

[@shuroddaniels8052]

What was wrong with Heavy D?!!

[@davidwicklin9943]

That was condemned as "rap" music. I remember in the '90s when a watchtower article bashed even socially positive rap music like what Public Enemy did condemning racism and police brutality as Watchtower focused on the cusswords and seeming "rebelliousness" or "disrespect for authority" as justification for their warped condemnation. Some of us threw out our entire music collections thanks to Watchtower's fake authoritarian nonsense.

[@pauletteforman]

🤷🏽‍♀️I KNOW RIGHT😃?! Heavy D is a distant Cousin of mine💝🙏🏽🤲🏽. Nothing was wrong with his RAP. Something was wrong with the 😏👉🏽uptight "WONDER BREAD"- 🥱😴💤💤💤LAWRENCE WELK - LIBERACE - WAYNE NEWTON GB! Behind closed doors, they probably was shaking a leg or two to ELVIS🎸 and THE BEETLES✌️☮️ or SNOOP DOGG while sipping on GIN AND JUICE 🥃🍾🥴

[@kylereese3343]

My parents threw out all of my "satanic" heavy metal when I was a junior in high school. A lot of my other JW friends had the same things happen to them, various types of music. The Purge was a sad night indeed. After that, I never bought an album again and only bought digitally, to remain hidden.

[@WJTM88]

Yep parents were armed with what The Society says and you could not win :( jt

[@dr.richmann4477]

Funny that you told the story about what Franz wrongly said about the serpent not actually speaking, but using body language because daily text for Sat. is: "You certainly will not die.​-Gen. 3:4." Also, the daily text for Thu. said: " As stated at 2 Corinthians 3:17, “where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom.” ". There was no freedom to choose your music at Bethel. WT likes to control as much of your life as possible. Dress, grooming (no beards), taste in music, etc.. Now we have real freedom because we are free from the heavy burden that Watchtower put on us, especially the burden of endless meetings, field service, cleaning the Kingdom Hall, attending assemblies, etc.. We are free from the chains of slavery as we are no longer slaves to a man made religious CULT.

[@johnryan1798]

Great! You don't have to clean your house as well, or work!

[@alomaalber6514]

have you looked at the meyers-briggs personality tests, ( free on line) a career tool, I bet the JW converts have the J feature in their personality for judgement?

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Yup!

[@alomaalber6514]

@@ExJWCriticalThinker also read the free chapters of Traumatic Narcissism by Daniel Shaw at Amazon, a bit scholarly but very good. explains many dynamics not noted anywhere else!

[@superdave1263]

After every circuit or district assembly, we young publishers were searching out for the best places to go and party after the meeting. Pretty much a party atmosphere.

[@stevebenoit6649]

Pass the peas

[@adrian_9951]

Jt tickles me when he does the squeaky voice. So they do believe those dudesare speaking directly to jehovah, jesus. My mom and aunts told me I was crazy and a retard

[@melaniebrueggemann5637]

Jazz certainly is a good choice, kudos to you! ;) But if you want to listen to music that really encompasses joy of life, the best I know is 30's-40's swing music (obviously, that would not have been an acceptable choice of music for a variety of reasons ;) If you listen to Fats Waller's "If You're a Viper", or Ella Fitzgerald's "Wacky Dust", it is also quite obvious that things have not changed so much in the past 100 years ... so there is enough room for doubt that this is the last part of the last days of the last days ;) ) But I digress... Thanks for sharing your stories, I really appreciate the work you do!

[@gagoomt4076]

I recall reading a “questions from readers” article around 2010/2011 about reggae music. The article tried to insinuate that reggae music was racist against whites and JWs and witnesses should not listen to it. I asked my dad about the article and was upset as I loved reggae music! I could tell the article was a knee jerk reaction most likely from a older white brother who didn’t understand reggae music and was entirely opinion based. How dare they put their opinion which was entirely wrong. Reggae music was simply a description of events those people went through (slavery, colonization) and those reggae artists had every right to discuss those events and how it affected them (“ie chase those crazy bald heads - Bob Marley”) The society is out of control.

[@thumbstruck]

The Society decried popular music back in the 1940s. The Rock music of the 1960s was based on Blues and Country from the 1930s and '40s. Heavy Metal is Classically influenced. The first description of Rap was after the Civil War, Black and white churches "lined out" the hymns. Talking Blues was recorded in the 1920s. Talking a verse of a song was common in the 1940s. The Society had and has no musical and social understanding and no scope of history (the practice is to selectively comb through history for the best effect). Thus the ignorant enforce and perpetuate ignorance......

[@starkochmodig5815]

Stairway To Heaven - Led Zeppelin. I can imagine!

[@d.archerofficial]

We get the freshest of the freshest of new light😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@saabtech3510]

Too much. Some of the brothers I worked with at Bethel in the 1980's went to Times Square on New Years Eve, to watch the ball drop at midnight.

[@cardboardbox9977]

My background before Bethel was culinary arts, so I had like 100 Food & Wine magazines. I went to Walmart and bought a GQ magazine for a cocktail recipe I saw in there, which is considered pornography in Bethel but I didn't know at the time, and threw it somewhere in my stack of magazines. While I was at work I got a call to go meet my home overseer because of that magazine. There's no way in hell a housekeeper would've seen that magazine unless she was searching thru my stuff. So glad Im out of there. My roommate got sent home because they record the keystrokes and websites you visit as well when you use bethel internet on your PERSONAL computer

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Oh that’s crazy! Did you get kicked out because of the magazine?

[@cardboardbox9977]

@@ExJWCriticalThinker No. It was my first of a few hard slaps on the hand.

[@TheExtremeBiblicist]

I sent this note to Goatl Like Personality. It's the beginning of a series of very short posts to help all XJWs become qualified in changing the ancient timeline so that 455 BCE becomes the true date for the return from Babylon. Per the Bible, 455 BCE must date the 1st of Cyrus and the return for many reasons now, but it's a big topic. So hope you don't mind my sharing this. Once 455 BCE becomes the true date for the return from Babylon and 537 BCE is a revised date, 1914 is history. If current JWs know that 537 BCE is a wrong date, they will know Jehovah isn't telling the Governing Body a damn thing! Eventually, the WTS will have to admit to the changes. But it's an involved toopic. but every XJW needs to know this. Here's the post and have a wonderful day!!

[@jessicanerpio-cauldwell4987]

I remembered those WT articles n wondered Why was those Topics (Music, Practical Jokes,Pillows, Tight Pants,Micro Brewery) brought up !?!...the Apples (Bethalites) don't fall too far from the Tree !!! (WT GB ORG)...😲😁🤭🤫

[@cindyperron3024]

I'm wondering what was said about about our late brother Prince...?

[@gagoomt4076]

I will never forget being at an older single sisters house for dinner and an elder proudly said when he goes over a publishers house, he makes sure to sit next to their CD/DVD collection to “see” what type of entertainment they watch. Mic drop! I was so upset because I knew the sisters house I was over had “questionable movies” I had been over her house many times and I knew he was taking a dig at her - while sitting there eating her food!!!! She was an excellent cook - she was from Jamaica and I always enjoyed her cooking. What an ass! Truly a cult!