The #1 sign that you are bad at a hero

[@Jenkins69]

cooment what animal u think we should eat instea dof cows and chickens.

[@Jenkins69]

i think roasted ferets on a hotdug bun would be dlicous

[@melifetaji6720]

bristlebacks and snipers

[@Alhapra]

That's not vEgAn, I think Mushroom which tasted like chicken is delicious xD

[@PixsicleStudios]

D u c k

[@SpySappingMyKeyboard]

I think we shud eet spidrs cos spidrs r bad

[@MrHeliMan]

Jenkins - Blames his MMR loss on trying to learn carry. ... Also Jenkins - Shows a losing streak without a single carry hero on the list.

[@ghubss]

My thoughts exactly... not one carry hero

[@skillo6399]

Also noticed that, lol

[@smithwillnot]

That's because he played those heroes as pos 1. Look that was a joke... I have no clue what was he doing in those games..

[@promotiontec256]

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[@Septimus_ii]

He also blamed it on doing poorly in games when he was behind - a 49% win rate loses you MMR, then showed a streak of 90% losses

[@OmnipotentO]

Different play styles based on being ahead/even/behind is so important. Super important point. I've had a concept of this but I never seen it worded out like that. Really great info

[@darnassiannightsaber7835]

2:20 'Using his strength instead of mine' Such a nice way to put it. I made the biggest improvement in my offlane gameplay by utilizing my carrys or mids strength while building auras for them along the way. Works out SO well.

[@CityColourr]

Jenkins, have you considered hiring a hobo bodyguard with a portion of your pizza crusts? I know times are tough and there’s barely enough to go around, but surely a crust here and there is a good trade for some hobo muscle

[@yohanesbintangnugroho1992]

Savehobo

[@Raziel1818]

lol my dude, best comment. Dafuq :))))

[@h00db01i]

long-haired hippy fascists!

[@RiSeNgod]

I like how you selected the German health minister as your template for euphoria at 0:23

[@annebl411]

I was so confused about the Spahn picture omg

[@merimbungur8724]

Jenkins: "Oh my god you guys I fed MMR when I played a carry." Meanwhile, his stats show losses with Zeus, Seeker, Phoenix, Shaker, Batrider, WL, Axe, Slardar, ES. I hope he didn't try to carry with those, that's some 1k shit right there.

[@peterkirk8510]

Tbh mid Zeus can carry pretty well

[@mihaioancea3915]

came to say the same damn thing. Here, have my like.

[@Jenkins69]

this was a poor selection of footge for the video.

[@anasraza6710]

@@Jenkins69 don't lie pls. You were trying deadulus zeus weren't you?

[@samfullmer1193]

Like most content creators he has an idea so he writes a script. He says his essay then creates the video after. The editing focus is loss after loss meeting the narrative of the script. He may not even be telling the truth about playing carry, we wouldn’t truly know. But even if his “creative” editing doesn’t match the essay, his message isn’t any less insightful or helpful.

[@akribraouf5663]

*he just walk in and fingers the pl * damn lion wtf

[@JSE4]

Zero chill..

[@chaz-e]

5:15 But his Finger was on CD

[@shangli8641]

@@chaz-e he was referring to the beginning of that clip

[@mgoogyi]

I heard this from a pro interview: If you are ahead itemize for survivability, if you are behind itemize for damage.

[@Shamsul-rh6bc]

why do i think it's completely vice versa XO

[@mgoogyi]

@@Shamsul-rh6bc if you are ahead the only way to loose if they can kill you -> go for surviveability If you are behind the only way to come back is to kill them.

[@Shyverin]

Yeah, if I get to the point of “the only way we can lose is if they cc lock me” it’s bkb into survivability items Daedalus is useless if you are already killing people in 3 right clicks

[@kennethjudecarrera5955]

just type "?" in all during all scenarios. ez

[@throoming]

U understand commended

[@ohhaisydaisy]

The "?" Is pure trashtalk xD

[@xPandamon]

Also type "ez" even if you just died to a gank

[@SuperAdamisme]

Aged like a fine wine

[@muneshxge]

@@SuperAdamisme ig.Emo: ? TOOBASED

[@Ephriam.]

This is really good, as always you make one of the best dota 2 content in all youtube, keep it up, hope you have a nice day, poor ferets.

[@Alaric11]

This is definitely me, I can't for the life of my figure out how to recover and come back from a bad start as legion commander.

[@Jenkins69]

play like a saving support. get pipe, solar crest, and buff/debuff ur team. duel for disable not damage and build tanky instead of to kill people

[@babykangarootribbiani5346]

@@Jenkins69 that doesn't work on low mmr games sir. Automatic report from teammates. Trust me I've tried that.

[@m.moonsie]

@@babykangarootribbiani5346 If you think that still won't work in a game, then the game is already over. Get it?

[@fridging]

@@babykangarootribbiani5346 do it anyway and mute whoever flames you

[@EnjoyTheSilenc3]

"tank MMR playing carry" shows losses only with offlane heroes 🤣

[@sooooooooDark]

"restrict ur hero pool" might as well say "just do missionary position" 😢

[@ryanramirez6279]

He never said to restrict your pool to a single hero.

[@Kragmork]

Does "Restrain your hero pool" sound better?

[@AlessFD]

ah yes, the number 1 sign, picking lion.

[@sweetdreams961]

Why is lion a bad hero? I really enjoy playing him

[@Nootlest]

@@sweetdreams961 same, I don't get it

[@scipio764]

@@sweetdreams961 Lion is relatively weak in Lane, while he's often played as P5. As P4, your kit kinda suck in damage before lvl6, so you can't roam early.

[@cavalettibnu3488]

let's agree to disagree.

[@InsaneMarcus]

When I saw the thumbnail, I immediately assumed that he was gonna talk about pos 5 players who pick Lion and rush blink dagger instead of other utility items.

[@jacksmith6391]

"To be good at Dota you have to be good from behind" Jenkins, 2020

[@dingowizard4139]

Your intros/outros are amazing and never fail to make my day :)

[@paulmaruzzo4138]

I stopped playing for years and just came back. I'm in a losing streak damn.

[@Quartermistress]

0:32 kuro's head just chilling there lmao.

[@deyoviC]

Iceiceice's too

[@ivanpenev8970]

i noticed... but why??

[@ChimraDairon]

Jenkins, you are number one. That story in the end made my day, thank you!

[@rubyjoyvillafuerte5324]

For me personally, I never had problems playing from behind because I got used to being in weird game situations ( support going haywire, 2 carries in one lane, lc 4 jg etc.) that I usually itemize for the worst so when I get good conditions I would still be unconfident to fight because mistakes costed more when playing from behind.

[@erroredhacker]

'literally weeks without putting on pants' same bro same

[@robbietadeo9909]

This concept was exactly what helped me improve miles in LoL. Trying to get there with dotes. Amazing content 👍

[@samshakuskysglasses3370]

welp, watching this made me realise that "I'm not good from behind".

[@T-bone321]

5:15 Sand King hiding for 30 seconds, wonder if he survived lol

[@aerozub]

8k mmr and no dusts vs sk, damn...

[@caesarsspirit]

probably tped.

[@blackknightz5036]

>Pa >Jump in on a Pugna >Team isn't commited Literally pure pain in 5s

[@unnamedshadow1866]

the key as a core that is behind is drag the shit out of the game while trying to keep up in GPM and items with the enemy core. This means once they inevitable try to take high ground or go for rosh, you could take out the supports and turn the fight around.

[@icata12345]

Yeah this is hella true, but might be scuffed if your hero is not a fast farmer even with alot of space

[@paritoshtiwari4818]

For low rank supports: - restrict hero pool - mute tilted players - force teammates to smoke with you - make sure you at least have ( item/skill wise ): two disables OR one disable and one heal OR one disable and one push/tower-push

[@Snake66874]

Im awake until 5am and i gotta sleep, but jenkins uploaded soooo... Yeah, sleep can wait

[@iluveut]

I am rooting this channel to grow for the next couple of months to support our good boi Jenkins with his hobo situation

[@Wolf-zs9vc]

why is there a picture of our (german) Minister of Health, Jens Spahn that pops up at 0:22? Has he already become a meme overseas?

[@buzan2296]

3:16 yeah, I know how to play from behind. I always purchase shadow amulet.

[@Oliplaysdota]

unerwarteter Jens Spahn 0:22

[@MrCaturday]

niemand erwartet jens spahn

[@yutaoZ]

"play from behind " sounds excited

[@svnms8841]

3:33 "Caused me to be bad at carry, and to tank mmr" I think your main issue is that you are trying to carry with the wrong hero :) Jokes aside, very insightful video! keep up the good work

[@wilbertbenigno4044]

Love your honesty and humility there, Jenkins. It shows that you never stop learning. You acknowledge how you admit your mistakes and strengths.

[@PixsicleStudios]

Been seeing alot of AM lately in my rank games. Prob because everyone is picking mana reliant hereos lately

[@dabbosaurusrex3292]

I have picked up legion offlane, cuz I hate am also and it makes it easy win :)

[@thatonerandomguyontheinter4971]

pick slardar then

[@poetryofcinema6957]

@@dabbosaurusrex3292 lc so good against Am but i get lc in my team who doesn't duel am until he gets abyssal and then duels to get wrecked😂

[@langolodelladistopia6171]

@@poetryofcinema6957 the point of dueling am is picking him off in jungle or, in late game, removing him form the fight. When I play LC, even if we are behind, I target their cores, possibly building aghanim, so my team can slaughter supports while the core is blocked against me. Of course the team should help LC duel, early, but in late game it should focus on killing the rest of the team while LC is dueling

[@poetryofcinema6957]

@@langolodelladistopia6171 yeah exactly, i asked my Lc to do this exactly. AM was mid, i was safe lane drow. he was dominating early game but i slowed him down by killing him thrice, then i asked Lc to conc on am, she went first item aghs instead of blink. I called my team for rosh, she instantly went and tried to solo rosh and gave them the aegis, the game went south.

[@Raziel1818]

My dude, that's the shit I've been looking for. Depending on what server some people play, some people's "normal game" is a game filled with absurd plays by team mates. suscribed for dis

[@kairionnefarian-eu6691]

I recently had a match (~crusader bracket) where i as underlord tried to create space and deny the enemy faceless as much farm as possible. Yet my entire team including supports would just hit neutrals on our side of the map leaving me to die over and over, eventually we got totally outscaled. I figured if i also hit neutrals im just going ro grief my mid & carry even more, any ideas what you should do if people don't do shit with the space you create?

[@pranayravi9449]

play heroes who have solo kill potential like clinkz, huskar or WR and hope you dont get counter picked. or play heroes who can split push. You see your idiot carry getting hunted in their jungle? thats your time to shine baby, push the opposite side like you're giving birth. Split pushing is an art too, your goal is to make sure you break an objective for every team fight your team lose, or to pull atleast 2 heroes to you and keep them there so your team has a 4v3 advantage and pray they are not brain dead enough to lose even that. You can also cut creep waves to pull enemies back, and learn how to slow push so that you can hit towers with 2 wagon creeps at the right time for maximum damage.

[@programmer1840]

@@pranayravi9449 Can clinkz solo kill? What items would you use, Orchid? His burning barrage is pretty hard to use to offload the whole channel onto a hero.

[@pranayravi9449]

@@programmer1840 orchid is his core ganking item. And u always go for the Squishies who split off to ward. 3 hits of burning barrage and an auto attack is more than enough to kill a support and gtfo. Rinse and repeat till u get bkb or linkins and have enough dmg to kill cores.

[@jyattard1081]

been following your support guides closely for the past 3 weeks and gone from archon 2 to legend 4 over Christmas holidays :DDDDD

[@sylphine]

Will you have a guide on how to realize your behind ahead or even? I usually find myself realizing this too late so would like to get that part solid before trying to get my hero building when behind/ahead/even... Thanks for the content as always.

[@user-yy3ki9rl6i]

First obvious clue is that you're ahead in lvls, although it still depends on their hero powerspikes. A lv7 PA is still weaker than a lv6 Doom. Item timings. Especially offlaners, where getting a key item is vital on his job on creating space. If you dont have the money to buya a blink dagger on slardar 15-20mins into a game (despite you prioritizing to buy it) then you dont wanna play very agressive as if you're ahead. Third one is very abstract, a measure of how fast they kill your heroes, and you kill their heroes. Hope that helps, im just a crusader scrub so feel free to roast me

[@floreskyle1]

The way I do it is if all tier 1 towers are down before 15 minutes then we are ahead, I guess.

[@pavel7910]

The state of lanes. If lanes are pushed out, you are winning.

[@sylphine]

@@floreskyle1 i mostly use a version of this currently... #t1s down and if a t2 is down. but i was in a game were it really wasnt that evident coz we were a pushing line up... which is why i find towers ONLY as a hard to use guide. dont deny they are though

[@sylphine]

@@user-yy3ki9rl6i the levels i get. the item timings not so much as i dont play enough heroes to know their item ideal timings. the third one... haha dunno how to quantify that coz even in games where im ahead i can get 1 shot by some heroes xD

[@brandonbroughton4208]

‘He literally just walks in, and fingers PL’ 🤣🤣🤣😎

[@Mehdi-mc4ij]

I lost a lot of mmr cuz of trying to play carry roles. shows his losses and none of them is with carry role. fuck it let's make youtube video of it.

[@merimbungur8724]

"While I was losing with all the other roles, it dawned on me that I'm a bad carry." - Hits from the bong 2020

[@TwistedScarlett60]

Come for the advice, stay for the epic hobo saga

[@IAmSpartacus99]

Isn't the position they're playing relevant, though? PPD was playing sacrificial lion 5 with glimmer and consumable vision, while Super is playing 4 and so can afford to get a greedy blink, with a Witch Doctor warding and buying more "supporty" items. I like the points you bring up a lot, and I think they're solid, but I feel like the difference in itemisation and approach to the game is less cut-and-dry than just simply the game state as the only major variable.

[@INS0lentmaniac]

Man The Hobo true story is getting darker and darker every week

[@jeong0162]

Can you allow me subtitle your videos translated to korean? I want to share your videos with korean dota2 players. If KZbin blocked subtitle contribution from others, I'll send you scripts instead.

[@menko140]

LMFAO putting German health minister Jens Spahn as pic for "euphoric" :D

[@esjhan]

Jenkins, your content is great and all, but I gotta be real with you. The reason you lost 1k+ MMR is cause you're a shit carry player. Your builds are outdated, nobody goes double wraith bands anymore because its inefficient, especially on PA. Then you queue up Bfury against a LS and Legion when you're so far behind (5th in net worth) and you wonder why you're losing? You also participate in too many fights with 0 items, aka the 9min feed on PA at the tier 1 mid tower. You're playing the carry like an offlaner. Also, seeing you play that void as a carry a few videos back was hard to watch. You played similar to an Archon/Legend level at the highest, if anything. Tip of advice, get another account to practice carry and stick with offlane. I'm pretty sure of the 1400 MMR you lost, they weren't all from games you were 'having a bad game' but more of 'don't know how to carry'.

[@martinpoellot]

From the logic “if you are ahead and you play like you’re behind = griefing” follows, that “if you are even and you play normal = griefing” :D that burns the pizza ;)

[@shiko7905]

How could I possibly ever be bad at a hero ? Impossible

[@michaelseanchang]

I mean you can but of course I can't. THAT would be impossible.

[@chrisanerton]

I think at this point, I only watch these videos to keep up with the hobo lore that I have a insatiable need to learn about.

[@Tazato]

The lion portrait being glitched out and showing a creep is very apropos

[@erickgilbert7686]

We need to make a series of jenkins' hobos situation throughout his career

[@kevinmcgovern5388]

Your first example of playing from behind... his teammates was ahead as a pos 5

[@FrankWolfeUDL]

@3:19 is IceFrog's sacred words handed down to Jenkins. It's the advice to live by.

[@sumerghandour956]

sorry to hear about your situation.. hope it all goes well and we keep watching your videos

[@TheSteamyPickle]

Great video one of your best. No joke this talks about so many problems people have in Dota and don’t even know it.

[@marifeavenida9824]

Lion buys dagger Him: this is terrible

[@nghiratdeptrai]

Your videos always point out very unique concepts that keep you different from other Dota channels. Super nice works, thank you and good luck!

[@marceloavilamolina8456]

I see your videos and think "he is so right! I should chage that" and then I fo the same stupid s***t every single game...great content Jenkins! Greetings from SouthAmerica

[@LowieX]

when he shows the screenshot of his lost streak talking about playing carry but every hero in the lost streak isnt a carry hero

[@yitzituvel4109]

Good stuff, man. The idea of switching into a support role if you're behind is a compelling one. Good luck with your struggles.

[@yeah5874]

I find that when I play carry I always lane well but I always fail to capitalize on the advantage I have and usually either lose or end up getting carried by teammates in the lategame

[@reynierrodriguezsocarras1306]

This is the best advice you've ever given for a dota player

[@Celebrintal]

I hope that the hobo situation gets better. Love your insights on DOTA 2

[@LordRaZeRcz]

Jenkins: If you are behind as Lion, play around team, build glimmer. Meanwhile in my rank: Aghanim rush FTW!

[@decoderr]

came for the dotas, laughed at jens spahn, stayed to find out about the hobo and ferret situation.

[@اميرحسينخجسته-م6ض]

your absolutely right , I mean even if a pro player wants to share actually usefull lessons about difficult situations that happens almost in evey other game in dota there are 1000s of hours of content.

[@marcosfung6381]

1:50 madara throws is the better example of "The #1 sign that you are BAD at a hero"

[@ZenoDovahkiin]

PTSD to being behind on BB. Not a good time.

[@Ivcifer]

it is indeed hard to play from behind as pos 1, as you are most likely the weakest hero on your team until you hit your timings.

[@baby_p24]

Oh god i feel like a bad person after realizing im watching almost all of jenkins content not knowing im not subscribed to him

[@wachidrizkiauliya7594]

Now I know that i should learn more things about playing from behind. Cause i only end up feeding

[@teddynator204]

0:22 why is there a picture of the german healthminister Jens Spahn? Hahahahaha

[@Fard1n2]

Got this video recommend at perfect time lost last 6 matches

[@joemonteiro2577]

"you know how to play behind" can u see the Buzz Lightyear meme here?

[@jisooisluv_jennieislifeu7320]

just me trying to do what my sensei tells me to do

[@supreetmavintop1829]

Great Content Not everyone does explain these kinda things in dota

[@manvendra88]

well said, no channel uploads comeback games, only stomps.

[@mohammadrezamardkhanjari8629]

I like the felons atack dumpster part. Noice

[@mikeylejan8849]

I was pudge offlane and I bought vessel, Guardian Greaves and Pipe, it was heaven and I couldn't die.

[@yathi]

I agree that your content is probably better than anyone else in KZbin!

[@wukong5017]

0:21 i, as a German, am very confused by that picture of Jens Spahn right there.

[@alirg3554]

This one is actually very useful now that I am trying to learn a new offlane style

[@dotaloner5362]

Because you don't think what to do when you're behind , you should think how to avoid being behind. The fix should come earlier before it's too late. That's people seldom talks about what to do when you're behind , at that point all you can do is wait for enemies to makes mistake , but higher rank enemies wont give you the chance

[@racer_AB]

Condolences to ferret who died in the fire.

[@samshakuskysglasses3370]

1 *n o i c e* everytime Jenkins says "from behind"

[@TheFleeingPhoenix]

Oh yes Phoenix batrider and Warlock the three best carries in Dota 2.

[@Kayledon777]

Now we can upgrade blink daggers. Eat your words.

[@MarcoPolansky]

Good luck with whatever it is youre going through man, youre a great content creator and i wish you the best

[@shitpost7026]

that lion ult was just stupid though, thier was no pressure for him to do it or not to

[@malakh4585]

Carry pos 1 is the most demanding role in terms of playing from behind because carry heroes are naturally weak and you have to adapt to this fact in 7 out of 10 games. This is one fact that makes carry a distinct role.

[@smohsinahmad]

By the way, PPD game, his team was leading by 23K so it was a dominant position for the team. They were far from losing.

[@ronhernandez2213]

I hope you get more opportunities to be a panel or as a caster by next ti or any other major dota 2 tournaments. Love your content, keep up the good work Jenkins! Much love from the philippines.

[@cartdog3]

This has got to be the most insane outro I've ever heard. If I wasn't already subbed, I would be now. But hey, at least you got me to comment. Gl with your defense!

[@Thejodad234]

Jenkins needs to watch BSJ. BSJ gives very informative carry guides and what to do in various situations

[@Heboux]

”Him snowballing would actually mean something.” Well yes but you cant snowball without snow! Great tips

[@drizzy6302]

Algorithm definitely boosting ur channel forward brah

[@MestHoop]

Always nice to find new ways to flame team even when we're winning! Thanks Jonkings