Jenna Ortega Slams Snow White & Modern Disney

Disney's Snow White live action remake seems to get worse by the day, and many fans are angry over the changes Disney has made to the Snow White story and what Rachel Zegler has said about the Snow White character. And just a few weeks ago Jenna Ortega slammed Hollywood for how they write many modern female characters, so I've used the points she made about these poorly written characters to pick apart, the changed Disney has made to Snow White.
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[@sl123sl]

Disney....Leave the original snow white alone....and create a new movie if u want

[@thejessegrant]

Exactly!!!!

[@karthiksubramanian2279]

Disney dogshit is creatively bankrupt...so they cant create anything new

[@christophermichaelclarence6003]

​@@thejessegrantI'm afraid they won't stop keep it making remakes. Disney is so out of ideas that. Those remakes have to stop. They're butchering our Childhood Disney Classic Movies As French, if they're planning the Hunchback of Notre Dame remake. I'd be damn furious and It's "GUILLOTINE" time

[@rootsoriginal415]

@@christophermichaelclarence6003 Disney isn't out of ideas. They just know they dont NEED any. Nostalgia sells and kids love merch. Make new Spiderman movie CAW Now sell toy CAW CAW Make another Spiderman movie CAW Now sell more toy CAW CAW!!

[@gazlator]

By all means let them make a new movie - and then let it stand up against the other classics. Then we'll see which one attracts the biggest admiration and respect.

[@excaliburr1425]

I'll never understand how people don't see the classic Disney princesses as strong women simply because they fall in love with a man. They are kind, empathetic, caring, hard-working, they fight for what is right, they stand up for themselves and the people they love. *That* is strength, *that* is what a role model should be.

[@breelee4362]

Beautifully said. They try to turn the females into masculine figures, like women with their feminine qualities can't be strong. They have to act like dudes. It completely devalues innate feminine qualities. I always looked up to the Disney princesses. ❤

[@chrisb.1214]

It's modern feminism now in all these movies that's doing away with traditional romance stories.

[@elizrebezilmadommdo1662]

It's because they see femininity as a weakness, which is honestly a bit anti-female in itself. These fake "feminists" are more anti-feminist than they even realize. They think women have to have traditionally masculine qualities in order to be valid human beings. Nothing wrong with being masculine, but being feminine or not being physically strong doesn't mean you shouldn't be taken seriously or be liked.

[@cedriccrawford4231]

It's globalists agenda. In fact, EVERYTHING happening right now can be attributed to this agenda as their hands are IN everything.

[@Trollificusv2]

Because the actual message Hollywood, and Disney in particular, want to spread is "Romance is bad. Love is bad. Having children is bad. And ultimately: _Family is bad._ ."

[@heavymetallabrat]

Disney 1990: True love is real and beautiful. Disney 2023: True love is dumb and sexist and bad. Disney sounds bitter and miserable.

[@Ycjniaa]

And what makes it worse is that most cartoons and franchises we grew up watching are currently owned by disney and they’re doing an awful job with keeping the bar up

[@heavymetallabrat]

@@Ycjniaa Disney is going to allow Nintendo to become the new disney and I dont even think they see the oncoming train.

[@jakeygaming2027]

I wish movies nowadays were still like the 90s…

[@kyuubinine]

No surprise. Disney today lead by LGBTQ. They are boring, not creative and the only value they have is they are LGBTQ

[@DryIhs]

@@heavymetallabrat Because Nintendo knows the audience they're trying to bring in. Disney and Hollywood in general are pandering to the wrong crowd.

[@tianatt8602]

I never once watched Snow White as a child and thought Snow was weak or “not a leader”…quite the opposite, actually. I saw her as being gentle, loving, caring while still brave and stern with what she believes. She literally taught young girls everywhere that vanity is not nearly as important as kindness. This new Snow White is just going to be annoying and insufferable.

[@Styxswimmer]

I always thought Wendy from Peter pan was the best written female lead. She wasnt a kick ass warrior, but she was responsible and taught the lost boys that growing up is something to be embraced and not feared. She represented growth, responsibility and maturity. That actually made her the pivotal character, even more than Peter Pan himself. I'm speaking of the original, not the garbage remake they made.

[@lindsryan1087]

@@Styxswimmeryessssss! And not over sexualized!

[@choryllis6646]

Exactly! The make of a leader is not always in how they lead, but how they inspire others around them. It was Snow White's kindness that stopped the hunter from killing her and letting her flee. It was her kindness to the animals that caused them to trust her and help lead her to safety with the dwarves. It was her kindness that inspired the dwarves to fight for her. I always interpreted that as the real reason the mirror said she was the fairest in all the land. Her stepmother was always said to be fairest until Snow White started growing up. You could interpret that as a mirror calling a 14 year old more beautiful than a 30 year old (I'm guessing here) and using human beauty standards, or you could interpret the mirror as judging the person as a whole. Sure the Wicked Queen was beautiful, but she had a rotten soul and abused the child in her care our of jealousy. Meanwhile Snow White was growing up in horrid circumstances, yet chose to be kind to those around her. Thus making her a more beautiful soul, and giving her the title, "The fairest one of all."

[@chibicreepypasta]

We need more actors like Jenna Ortega and Henry Cavill, period

[@moonshadow4274]

Chris Pratt, Emily Blunt, Matthew McConaughey

[@chibicreepypasta]

@@moonshadow4274 Yes!

[@alesksander]

Yep Jenna, Rebbeca, Emilly. Faith restored. :D

[@nikoskonstantinidis4069]

and more people who realized

[@DanielleSantos711]

Evangeline Lilly, as well.

[@sid-86]

Reminds me of when Emily Blunt said "It’s the worst thing ever when you open a script and read the words ‘strong female lead'". Like putting that on the script automatically fills out a persons backstory and personality.

[@Styxswimmer]

It does. The "strong female lead" is ALWAYS a female with a boat load of strengths and no weaknesses. They have no character arc beyond embracing how awesome they truly are. Look at star wars. Luke got his butt kicked and his arm cut off, and this makes him realize he isn't up to the task and must train. Rey on the other hand defeats her enemy (Kylo) in their first encounter. She never loses. You never get the feeling she's in any danger. Without flaws or shortcomings, they become cardboard cutouts that you can't empathize with and thereby don't care about

[@kyachdistent1301]

@@Styxswimmer But if everyone knows this going in to the stupid movies (hard not to with the blab machine full-throttle all over social media on all these big-type movies, WHY go see it? That's a reason NOT to, for one.

[@kyachdistent1301]

Emily, that is the coolest. Listen to her, people, she's speaking sense.

[@tini96]

Why did she say that

[@Styxswimmer]

@tini96 because it's true. Modern female characters have the worst writing. They have no character arc, no development, no weaknesses. It's terrible writing

[@deathpearl360]

I hate that the term feminist is very misconstrued. The point of being a feminist is to be "equal with men", not "better than men."

[@fionachristy5538]

That’s how it feels it’s going sometimes

[@Styxswimmer]

Feminists don't want equality. They want power with no accountability.

[@maryamtara2934]

100% I'm a feminist (want to have equal rights with men but I'm also an advocate for male victims and male mental health) and i HATE this narrative of one gender being superior, you can be strong have a career and FALL IN LOVE!!😂

[@Someone-qi1rr]

The point is that we aren't equal and never will be. We women are very different than men and that's okay. Each of us have different roles.

[@maryamtara2934]

@@Someone-qi1rr people can be different and be treated with the same amount of respect. That's the bottom line here! As a woman i wanna be respected for my input and my mind not just how I look and many kids i can birth, and for a man its okay to admit that they're suffering (physical or mental pain) and be treated with respect..

[@luwildy]

It's really scary to me that falling in love is considered a bad thing now.

[@valarmorghulis5575]

Woke culture might be ending because more and more celebrities speak out against it and more people are not afraid to boycott woke movies and products. I hope this continues so we could be back to normal.

[@xgray2012]

Me too.

[@thejessegrant]

Finally actors and people in the industry are sticking up for quality storytelling!

[@christophermichaelclarence6003]

​@@thejessegrantYep. Even some famed actors are faithful to the Original 1937 version. That's awesome to hear Greetings from France 🇫🇷👋 Our Europeans neighbor's the Germans 🇩🇪, especially the fans are mad about the remake

[@clarkconner]

Agreed. I want liberals to understand that we are completely tired of it.

[@chiellazona5624]

They call themselves woke, but they're just half-awake.

[@Rypatriot]

Now this is an actual strong woman, why? Because she spoke against the woke mob…NEVER MESS WITH THE CLASSICS! That’s why they’re called classics…🧐

[@maryamhatun3475]

I 100% agree

[@thedestroyer2alltrolls411]

an actual strong woman*

[@Dude_Slick]

Indeed.

[@Rypatriot]

@@thedestroyer2alltrolls411 Thanks.

[@user-dj7hg4yt5v]

Yap, as children we see these movies and go to dreamland but as adults we see the dark sides of fairytales without being told. Nothing should be changed about what was already created cause if we don't realize on our own the problems in each movie we will not be able to learn from it

[@waket1570]

It makes me sad to see that in "modern times", the nourishing mother figure is seens as "weak and useless". The role of someone that sacrifices anything they have to make someone else grow and evolve is not only a great character trope, but also what many of our mothers and grandmas did, maybe because they didn't had other choice, maybe because they really liked it. Why would they not be represented? Why can't we see someone being strong not trough punches and swords, but by showing maturity, showing the world that no matter what it thows you, you can still learn to stand for yourself, while still being nice and welcoming? Just let women remember we have other kind of strenght other than the muscle manly one.

[@hbk2377]

When I was younger, I used to be so insecure about my pale skin (I’m talking too pale for the lightest shade in most makeup lines) and my mum would just say I look like Snow White (skin as pale as snow) and it always made me feel confident thinking of how her pale skin was portrayed as beautiful, and now they cast miss golden glowing tan as Snow White?😭 Us pale girlies need representation too🥲

[@musicianshipcreative3660]

be so fr... there is a ton of snow white movies with pale girls and a ton of movies that have the lines pale is beautiful. You have quite a lot of representation

[@marly3257]

⁠@@musicianshipcreative3660girl stfu let girl share her opinion you don’t need to slam every white person for their feelings about WHITE characters 🤔🤔

[@aparna2701]

@@musicianshipcreative3660the character is called Snow White 💀 she’s described to have “skin as white as snow” in the original story. Why not remake a movie like The Princess and the Frog or Moana in live action if they want POC representation?

[@pepsiko5541]

that's a nice story tho! Im glad it helped you with your confidence, but I dont think it's fair to say that being pale isn't a beauty standard for years. Dark skin women are seen as ugly, usually also in media. Of course a tan woman is different, Im sure this actrice fits the beauty standard easily (she is beautiful tho!). But 95% of beauty standards is white/pale. I dont think taking one princess away takes representation away, there is many other ones. Unfortunately not all races can say this

[@user-ek7ct5nl5d]

@@pepsiko5541 Depends on where you grow up. Pale isn't really the beauty standard in europe and america anymore, it's been tan white women for quite a while. I got made fun of growing up for my pale skin. Kids would always call me a ghost or a vampire and adults would constantly ask if I was sick and tell me to go out and get some sunlight. And sure changing one disney princess isn't going to take away all our representation, however, unlike other white disney princesses, snow white's pale skin is an integral part of her character. It's literally what she's named after, so her name doesn't make any sense now that they've changed her. It's a shame they couldn't stick to the original, regarding both the story and the casting.

[@MimosaRose]

Emily Blunt once said that if she sees “strong women” in a character description she tosses the script

[@mawsoncasey7347]

Jenna made a female character better while others destroy female and male characters .

[@racheljames7]

I wouldn't say she made Wednesday better (Christina Ricci is the GOAT Wednesday) but she did her best to honour the character and respected Addams Family fans.

[@barcabocalda2583]

@@racheljames7she did an incredible job

[@barcabocalda2583]

@@faepoet exactly she knew they wanted to get political with her like they did with Rey from star wars lol

[@notwwwansik]

@@racheljames7 YEEES

[@MaskedMan66]

@@racheljames7 That honor belongs to Lisa Loring.

[@javelinxd]

It's so funny how Wedsnday who by her nature should be the most boring 2 dimentional character, actually turned out to be one of the more complex, developed and interesting characters far above anything Disney has shat out.

[@AnnoyingTiger888]

As a writer, this is one of my BIGGEST fears. I want to write a strong character but I don't want them to be perfect. I want them to sacrifice and grow and learn and, to me, that's one of the hardest things to write.

[@BigDaddyJinx]

Why, OP? Is struggle and sacrifice something that you have experienced in your own life? Perhaps your family or your friends lives? Were any of them perfect? Did they overcome their struggles (real or perceived/great or trivial)? How did they accomplish that? If you answered yes to those, then you have all you need to be able to successfully write strong characters who aren't perfect and have overcome trials and obstacles.

[@LittleSisterReacts]

Snow White is about innocence, hope and helping others who treat you kindly. It's not about a female leader character. It's about teaching kids and adults that hard work can be both fun and rewarding. Snow White is the exact opposite of the Evil Queen, the queen's vain, selfish, bitter and puts only herself first, and kills if she doesn't get her way. Snow White is loving, nurturing, joyful and sweet. Her beauty is both inside and outside making her the fairest of them all, I'm including the other Disney princesses too. Snow White is the fairest Disney princess of all.

[@jilyyyyy.]

I agree, therefore I think Snow White's traits in her personality is a strong character itself. She showed kindness and gentleness to somebody she doesn't even know despite of what happened to her. Though you really made a great point, I think what you're meant to say is the bold character of being a leader that snow white doesn't portray. :))

[@Marvelhero24]

Hope that a prince will come to save you? Nah.

[@LittleSisterReacts]

@@Marvelhero24 It doesn't matter if it's a prince or somebody else, people help each other and the nicer the person is the more chances of somebody coming to help you. The prince is just a figurative example for a happy end. Also the original movie was meant for those who were suffering from depression, it was a sad time, and they needed something to give them a laugh and a smile, that's when Snow White came in.

[@annaverano5843]

I seen a KZbin video of the voice of the original snow white . A guy interviewed her in her little cottage. The cottage was full of snow white memorabilia and she was so happy to show him her collection and even talked to him in her snow white voice . She was humble and grateful for her role even though signing that contract with Walt meant he owned her voice and she couldn't audition for any other acting or singing roles . And her career in acting never got to take off . Her personality was the definition of what makes a woman strong and beautiful. Rachel has nothing over the original snow white and she will never compare to the original. Rachel will be long forgotten along with this silly non-essential woke culture its a blimp in our history . But the snow white from 70 years ago will continue to capture our little girls hearts the original snow white will live on in our memories she is iconic. And those feminist will never take our dreams of growing up to be a princess and meeting and falling in love with our prince charming and live happy ever after . Those feelings are hard wired in our hearts it's once upon a dream .. Rachel nor any of the woke hollywood feminist can take that from us no matter how hard they might try .

[@raminagrobis6112]

You described it perfectly.

[@roberw1912]

Ortega had to improv a lot of Wednesday to make her character relatable because the writing was poor. If it was not for Ortega Wednesday would not have been a success.

[@wondergirl1586]

Ikr but the writers literally made fun of her for the changes even though the only good part of Wednesday was Ortega's acting. The writers need to learn from her since grown adults even agree that Ortega carries the show

[@ozboz-roblox363]

@@wondergirl1586bro speak English please💀💀

[@pibawww]

​@@wondergirl1586 ur so good at spelling 😻

[@hbk2377]

Not every girl wants to be a girlboss😭 these hard, strong, girlboss characters are NOT relatable to me or any girls I know, Jenna is so real for this

[@dashx1103]

Jenna say NOTHING about being anti-"girl boss." I mean ... this whole discussion is ludicrous. Ortega is kind of a girl boss herself. I mean ... delusion is a thing, but this is still absurd.

[@mysteriousperson947]

Same. I've never been able to relate to the girlboss trope because I'm not naturally an outgoing, confident person and not every woman is, which is fine. Hollywood needs to remember that there are other ways that a woman can be strong.

[@thatHARVguy]

Men: Workaholic. Leads to bad personal health, bad mental health, bad relationships. Modern Feminists: "Girl boss! Yas queen! Slay!" Pam from the Office: "They're the same picture." Us: 🤦‍♂

[@maddiereinhardt2004]

Jenna is a great example of Disney making new engaging diverse stories. Stuck In The Middle showed what it was like to be in a large Hispanic family with characters that ranged in personalities without giving into stereotypes. I loved it when I was younger especially seeing someone close to my age on tv. I wanted to be just like the smart inventor that Riley was lol. It really isn’t that hard for them to return to that style of programming

[@obiwanshinobi87]

Protect Jenna at all cost.. This is a good female rolemodel

[@Katedraws]

where is the interview video of jenna in this?

[@blackphantom6334]

​@@Katedrawskzbin.info/www/bejne/bIKYYoFmrqxmhdk

[@adamkalb1]

Please do not forget her older cartoon sister, Aimee Carrero! Aimee has already had two starring roles in Elena of Avalor and the reboot of She-Ra, in which she plays two princesses who were good at being the strong leader that Rachel Z-lister _wishes_ her new version of Snow White could be. After The Menu and The Consultant, I really want Aimee Carrero fast to become as known of a name as Jenna Ortega is now.

[@R49_Complete]

She's pandering. The new Wednesday is just as woke and VIOLENTLY anti-male but I see dont see her talking shit when she gets those fat checks every month.

[@lhenalie13]

@@Katedrawsit’s from “Actors on Actors” from Variety, she guested with Elle Fanning

[@hilmanic28]

Wednesday is definitely an example of a good female lead. Badass but FLAWED. Very capable but constantly needs help. Does not resent men and actually appreciates the men in her life. Grew to be badass learning from BOTH her parents and uncles. Good to know Jenna Ortega had a hand in re-writing her character.

[@notwwwansik]

She’s literally marry sue…Are you seriously?🤡

[@hilmanic28]

@@notwwwansik Did you even watch the show? She is CONSTANTLY wrong, needed help countless times, and she had to GROW as a person over the length of the show, not to mention getting outsmarted by the antagonists and her plans failing. She was nowhere near perfect, being good at certain things doesn't make you a mary sue. In fact, the reason she was already badass was because of her father and uncle as she clearly stated. Albeit I do think it would have been cooler if they showed glimpse of flashbacks of when she learned to do those things.

[@Someone-qi1rr]

Nah, Wednesday show is crap

[@leilaniseamon6175]

​@@Someone-qi1rrI think you missed the point of the original comment

[@darthjarjar2742]

I did not watch Wednesday, not cuz it's bad but just cuz it's not my type of show. But hearing this makes me appreciate Jenna Ortega as an actor

[@s.elizabeth1753]

Showing vunerability and kindess IS a strength in this cold world.

[@evehusband439]

That is a message that the Barbie movie nailed. Barbie was supposed to be perfect until she wasn't, she struggled like a normal human being. Her day wasn't always perfect, she had bad days too. She got cellulite and started thinking about things like death and she felt other emotions like sadness. She wasn't really a leader, she just wanted to live a normal life by the end of the movie. Despite not being a real human at the beginning, she was actually so much more relatable than a lot of more recent female characters.

[@TheBlankJoker]

Another thing with modern female characters is that we are told they are the heroes, but they act like villains. Full of themselves and disrespects those around them cause they can.

[@Rakshiir]

I do agree with several youtubers (first one I heard it from was the critical drinker) that said: the strong female character in many movies is basically what they would call a toxic male just in a female body, and somehow that is good. It is so ironic that it actually makes me laugh at the idiots who put them together, who seem to be so ignorant that they can`t even see they write villains, but pose as heroes, but the audience sees through it. Some actually see it, others at least feel that something is wrong. If you see something that doesn`t feel right, even if the movie trys to tell you it is, that feeling will linger.

[@kyachdistent1301]

@@RakshiirMind you, all the male leads I find toxic (Cruise, Clooney, Damon, Wahlberg, Francos, Tatum, McConaughey, Rockwell) are never ever criticised when they keep working, taking away roles from proper actors all for the vile box-office machine.

[@sparkofcuriousity]

because they are the heroes but only in their own twisted minds. In reality what they are is pathological narcisists.

[@methamphetamineaddict5217]

​@@kyachdistent1301thats your problem then

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

Exactly. That bothers me. What modern female strong characters show, is that bullying is ok, as long as bully is a girl and victim is a man.

[@JasonGuitarHand]

Jenna truly represents a level of intelligence that hardly is seen with actresses her age. I honestly think we're almost at the end of this woke madness after seeing Hollywood crumble, Disney bleeding money along with other companies. Perhaps this is the worst, before the time of healing can commence and it becomes better.

[@casualcausalityy]

I think I'm done giving Hollywood money forever. It feels like funding evil people at this point

[@-redacted_by_youtube]

If you think shes not woke you have problems. She thinks like they do. Maybe she has a slightly differing opinion but its very much aligned with theirs.

[@PyroBlonde7777]

@@casualcausalityy Me too. There are so many scandals happening at once its mind blowing. We have yet to see who went to Epstein's island. The American people need to learn the true depths of this corruption. Until then, it is extremely hard to spend my money without doing my research first.

[@elizrebezilmadommdo1662]

More like a high level of intelligence that is hardly seen with actresses of ANY age.

[@anthonyzullo]

If it's a conspiracy to swing my vote red, they've won. Between this nonsense, feminism, trans people on children. I'm about done with liberals and their insanity. Wonder of they'll make the Princess and the Frog princess fucking white or something. Smfh.

[@faithngiraingas1696]

snow white was a nurturing character. the sweet, feminine, tender contrast to the dwarves. she got them to wash their hands before supper, like a mother does. cleaned their house, made it organized and put a warm meal on the table for them after their hard day at work. snow white is the epitome of a mother and a homemaker. i think that is the female strength that modern feminism is sweeping under the rug.

[@isitic4496]

One of the most important things about this “strong female” character is that they do nothing wrong they are just a victim of everyone around them, and that is so true. As someone who likes to write myself, I know what it’s like to have a character who is only a victim and how difficult it is to break out of that mold, but professional writers shouldn’t stick to that mold. What creates good, relatable protagonist is making them morally gray. It’s making the audience care for them through the flaws.

[@peppei666]

as someone that came from a nightmarish home, I feel my husband did save me from it. I love snow white because she was never looking for a prince. but in her time of need when she thought everything was hopeless, he found her and pulled her from the dark that her family put her in. why can't we have a classic romance story without having this super strong single independent woman.

[@MrsStormtrooper]

This!! They think that all women want to be the ""strong independent type"" and shun everyone who wants a more traditional life. They go against femininity whenever they can and this is so harmful, like imagine making a little girl feel bad for liking pink and wanting to be a princess? Ffs... (Very happy for you btw ^^)

[@kathyp1563]

The original movie does have her looking for a prince, since she sings that song. I can't think of an original fairytale where the girl looks for love. Nor are they looking to be rescued. The love comes to her because of her character. Concerning your husband...Congratulations! A good man is a blessing!

[@krisxxn4756]

It’s weird because Snow White takes place in the past, where a woman’s main hope of security was through marriage. It makes complete sense in her context, and anyway, the Prince is almost an afterthought. Most of her time is spent on her magical adventure and then he saves the day. It’s so clearly a female fantasy (you’re so great and so hot that everyone is jealous of you/loves you). It’s one thing to modernize it, but this take has been done (poorly) by disney so many times it’s incredibly boring by now. Well, it will be interesting to see how they drop the ball.

[@kathyp1563]

@@krisxxn4756 Agree. Grimm Brothers recorded these in the 1700s, but the stories were hundreds of years old already. Society had very strict social levels. A person born as a peasant could only hope for better through magic. Typically, it is magic that saves the day in fairy tales, not a man. These fairy tales were told from peasant woman to younger peasant women. Nobility didn't really participate. The oldest Cinderella-type story dates back to 3 AD Egypt. The story has a Pharoah marrying a Greek slave & making her queen.

[@lauren1352]

I half agree with you, but i also wouldnt like a female lead with no personality, weak damisel in distress who needs a man all the time

[@stevenmoralesjr5785]

Jenna Ortega, respect to the source material and cares about Wednesday Addams, because not only Wednesday Addams is a Latina character but Jenna Ortega truly represented her Latino community, I’m super proud of her and she is a true professional. Jenna Ortega is a greater actress than Rachel Zegler!!!!!

[@Tyler-qh7bf]

Who cares about what race she is

[@HellhoundIX]

As a latino I can safely say that neither of them represent me or my community. I honestly don’t care. White, black brown, red, whatever. Just make good movies and characters and don’t treat audiences like idiots.

[@Kaylor_Ryan]

Exactly I'm tired of people posting about races.. it's boring! Who cares

[@Dude_Slick]

While I have mad respect for Jenna, Wednesday Addams is not supposed to be a Latina character. I don't think her being so in this current incarnation is a big deal, as what she brings to the character is nothing short of magnificent. As for representation, we have plenty of that, to the point that it is the rule. The only ones who care about race, are racist. The problem with Snow White being cast to a Latina, is that her whiteness is the number one physical descriptor of the character. She is the fairest of them all.

[@buttshroom9906]

i don't really care about her race, but what i respect about her is that she took time to study the original addams to get in character

[@CoolScratcher]

At this point, female leads are either the damsel in distress, the intimidating, slightly sassy but still loving love interest, or the outright awful rude and disrespectful "girlboss" JUST MAKE A GOOD CHARACTER WHO HAPPENS TO BE FEMALE. IT'S NOT THAT HARD

[@AuntLoopy123]

How about an intimidating, slightly sassy, but still loving heroine, who sometimes gets into trouble, and needs some help, even if it's from a man, and that man happens to be her lover? Actually, I quite liked the woman in Jungle Cruise. I think that sums her character up pretty well. She loved and supported her brother. She knew that sometimes, she needed a man's help, and she wasn't afraid to accept or ask for it. She was smart, and sassy, and slightly intimidating, but also brave and loving and nurturing and reassuring, and supportive. I said support twice. Oh, well. She did support really well, I thought.

[@dorothytran2926]

I have even more respect for Jenna Ortega after watching your video. I listened to her interviews and she’s always been very down to earth and wise for her years, but this is something that actually needs to be said. Also it’s even braver to tell the truth when it involves your own industry considering the risk is usually greater than the reward.

[@conjam86]

In regards to the original: if it's not broke, don't fix it. Jenna nailed it as Wednesday

[@oscarstainton]

At this rate, Jenna could have been cast as Snow White, would have conducted herself with more thought and graciousness than Zegler has at any point prior, and actually played her akin to how she was in the animated film.

[@lullaby218]

Brownest of them all.☺

[@iReturnV1deotapes]

How do you figure she has the same skin? She's just as tan as Rachel.

[@oscarstainton]

You guys are both missing my point. I know Jenna is not a caucasian/white European lass, as Snow White is supposed to be. But if the film was always going to have a miscast Snow White from the start, then hiring actress who will be professional and respectful was the absolute bare minimum. In terms of conduct and attitude, Jenna is the polar opposite to Rachel, who doesn't even like Snow White the character or the original film.

[@laurahugillofficial]

Personally, I would’ve gone with Olivia Sanabia. I think she looks like Snow White the most and I don’t think she’s as awful as Ziegler.

[@rootsoriginal415]

@@oscarstainton I believe you too are missing the point. I mean I'm black and can only really speak for myself but it would appear we dont care. How about hire a white actress AND respect the source material. That way all parties are happy

[@nariayon2955]

This is why I like Katniss Everdeen. Even though she's somewhat different in the books than in the movies, it still shows her weaknesses, her being calculative due to the nature of her environment, the many wounds she gets because she's not a perfect fighter, and her resourcefulness. Her unwillingness to spearhead anything because she feels like she's not fit for it, is something I can relate to. While other people believe in me, I ALWAYS doubt myself. Of course, I can't relate to everything she's been through, but I understand that these make her stronger than many of the characters in the books. This is the kind of modern-day woman I want to see.

[@Go-OnR]

Snow White may not have physical, mental, or political strength. But she has *Emotional* strength. She has a nice and patient soul, allowing her to be loved by all, her kindness and empathy is what's needed from her. She's just a 14 year old girl who's feeling lonely, and wishing she had a lover that could hold her. But she's *not* crying in her room. She has multiple run ins with death. Befriends creatures of the forest, including 7 DWARVES lives in happy community AWAY from the evil Queen, her kind naivety gets her fooled like any other child, but luckily a handsome prince decides to 'respectfully kiss her corpse as a send off to the afterlife' which revives her, and she can ride off into the sunset having her dreams fulfilled. Not every one wants to rule the kingdom. Snow never aspired for that. Falling in love is a normal thing. It's not outdated or weak. LOVE is not weak. What is weak, is an empty girlboss for girlboss' sake. Snow White's issue wasn't taking down the tyrannical ruler to take her rightful place on the throne, that's Gira's job. Her 'purpose' was to survive assassination and dream like a 14 y/o should She can be a role model She can be a normal 'not aspiring for greatness' young girl. *Why can't she be both*

[@Yogurt_Fingers]

Ortega and Cavill teaming up on something someday would be great. They're both great actors that have passion and aren't agenda driven.

[@fistovuzi]

well Cavill is producing a 40k project ATM. Jenna would make a great Dark Eldar, Eldar, or even Adeptus Sororitas.

[@kyachdistent1301]

Hollywood had plenty of these type actors and more in the 80s, 90s and 2000s, it's just they tend to make movies not geared to the box office, so get forgotten about. Yet where's the intelligence in thinking the acting world only has the same 15-20 people in it and that only THESE should be casted all the time.

[@marcusmeins1839]

i wanna see jenna ortega as a sister of battle in Cavill Warhammer 40k show , that would be awesome!

[@estlastar9020]

I’m glad that Jenna Ortega is speaking up about the issues with modern movies. I also agree that modern female characters are really uninteresting and boring. I’ve created a character of my own that is the opposite of every female character in modern movies🙂

[@benji485]

That’s super cool!

[@styepen602]

Don’t forget Elle Fanning either, the two of them talked in agreement and both brought their points to the table, I’m glad to say they were already two of my favourite actresses before that interview.

[@punkrockjoanofarc]

Snow White (1930s) was the first Disney movie I ever watched at age 5, so the fact they did this to a beloved story struck me in the heart

[@Rakshiir]

For someone who is still very young I am so impressed by Jenna how down to earth she seems. Like Henry Cavill she seems to be an actor who not only respects fans and knows she needs to fill their expectations, but actually cares about the character she is playing, even stepping in if they write said character inaccurate to the source material. Having the balls to voice that opinion makes me respect her alot. We need more people like her in the industry who focus on the story and characters.

[@Drkbardockssj]

She's actually just as woke. And she took a white character that's pretty woke.

[@Heidenspross]

one of the strongest women i know is a single mom with 4 kids... coming from absolute poverty she busts her ass on a daily basis, sacrificed a lot for her kids, and she has my respect, more then any of these "strong women" we see in movies/tv-shows nowadays.

[@christophermichaelclarence6003]

True fact, the people/the animators put a lot of amount works for making Snow White 1937 (litterally 3 years away from WW2) It was drawing with a Pen.

[@bendover7841]

Did her husband pass away?

[@Heidenspross]

@@bendover7841 no, they divorced, and the scumbag never bothered to pay child support

[@anthonyzullo]

My moms a 70s feminist, a real woman. She has never been more disgusted with her gender than the last decade. My mother was very...anti male, most of my life, but she works in social media marketing and she's been seeing women expose themselves and she's looking at her 4 bois, me the only one that will never fall into the trap, my other brothers did and are suffering. She asks if this is what it's actually like and I'm like yeah man. Lmao, my mom said "it's better I'd you just get a prostitute!" Wild man.

[@ozboz-roblox363]

My mom but 8 children

[@alina_banina]

We need to protect the actors who slam wokeness.

[@Yup712]

Emily Blunt said she’s sick of the same thing.

[@thejessegrant]

Yeah many are starting to say it now and it’s good

[@Gamespectives]

As jenna who played a very accurate Wednesday. And Elle Fanning who played Aurora, who didnt wield a sword, and also fell in love with a prince... i expected nothing less. Bravo. Need more actors like them

[@Vipppala]

accurate to what ? i liked the show quite alot and what she played, but i wouldn't say her character was super accurate to the source material. (not her fault, its written that way for the show and it works for what the show wants to do very well)

[@caliburn493]

honestly I have always felt a little strange while watching movies like that and now I know why...I don't want to be some boss girl that is confident all the time yes it is nice but maybe I want to be afraid of things that are scary and that doesn't make me weak it just makes me human.

[@buttercuup02]

I feel like all of Disney's movies are telling the same story and over and over again. Yet another live action princess movie about leadership, womanhood, and finding herself. We already had that with Mulan AND Aladdin. And we'll probably have that with Moana, too.

[@dimebag505]

The thing is they are just doing the same thing over and over again, look at all the female characters in Disney films in the last couple of years they are all the same, they are just writing the same character in every project. Its insane (actually the definition of insanity)

[@OmegoDeLindo]

You know what they say, “insanity is doing the same things over and over and expecting a different outcome.”

[@rootsoriginal415]

@@OmegoDeLindolol OP assumed we already knew the defintion but thanks captain obvious. What would we have done without you.

[@Dude_Slick]

The have the money to push agenda rather than making quality family entertainment. How did they amass all that money? By giving us lovable female characters, who embodied everything they hate today.

[@theextremelycrucialcaterpi6988]

Cinderella was incredible- I wish they created more adaptations like that 💖

[@winterspring5859]

Maybe that's why Encanto was great. They didn't go in that direction and focused on the family dynamics and relationships and individuality. The MC doesn't have powers, and you don't have to be "special" to be "special". You don't have to be a cut above the rest to matter

[@AniketSharma-jg2cn]

Uma Thurman in kill Bill was amazing. That is a strong female character. These woke filmmakers don't even come close to creating that.

[@tofanpurnomowaisaka503]

All the women in Kill Bill are amazing, Bill & the other male assassin are so underwhelming they ruined vol. 2 for me.

[@ozboz-roblox363]

word

[@petervitkov361]

@@tofanpurnomowaisaka503 Except for Karen Kim, the assassin with the shotgun that was sent to kill Beatrix when she just found out she's pregnant. I'm sorry if I sound like a psychopath, but in that line of work: "No women, no kids" is BS, regardless of what Leon from the eponymous movie with Jean Reno says. If you're sent to kill a target, and you choke because your target is a pregnant woman, you should consider a different line of work. Compassion to an assassin is like hematophobia to a surgeon. Karen may be a good person, but she's a crappy assassin. For all her skills, she lacks the determination to do what most people couldn't stomach.

[@tofanpurnomowaisaka503]

@@petervitkov361 I don't even remember her. 😅

[@thekrazyhatter5063]

You already know that Maya hawke is gonna kill it In Kill Bella As the daughter of the bride

[@nunka34ify]

Watch them add a plot twist and have the Evil Queen become a sympathetic antihero and paint the Prince as the villain

[@japanesefromzero]

They could have kept the same story and had Snow White get retribution after the prince wakes her up. Instead, they just seem to have destroyed the story. I think for me the problem with the movie will be that I don't particularly like Rachel Zegler. She seems like she would be so insufferable at a dinner party.

[@teddybearclarence]

the biggest red flag is when the only thing they are focused on are changing race & tag on the "made for modern audience" line... you know it's gonna be a wreck...

[@Rakshiir]

I would also say that most people actually see the red flag. At first, years ago it wasn`t as easy to spot, but now alot of people know the signs, since we`ve seen them often enough. The first interviews I heard about the acolyte show immediatly told me that this is garbage, since they don`t tell you a single thing about the characters, story or how it fits into Star Wars, every interview focused on politics, woke ideas ect. The only movie I know that managed to hide the vile message of the movie was the Barbie movie right now.

[@polarwhale4895]

@@Rakshiirwell if you have seen the other sw shows you would know lol

[@headlessfool7050]

its a bit funny how it takes several big producers/studios severyl years and immense flops to realize those "modern audiences" don't pay the kind of moeny all the other people who used to watch their movies did XD . That Disney did not wake up when STAR Wars IP Value went bust ( you know, the one that basically defined "IP"?, most valuable IP in the world before Harry Potter came along, and now can't sell any merch anymore )is absolutely amazing .

[@smokedchedda1421]

A good example of a strong female character that's relatable is the mother Evelyn in A Quiet Place.

[@amazingtrooper5893]

Loved the movie and it’s characters. You are correct 🫡

[@iamthelonewolf]

Definitely.

[@donkeynoose]

bro took a 15 second clip of jenna ortega talking and managed to make a 12 minute video out of it. and she isn't even talking directly about what the title says. i hate modern youtube.

[@ximar0ckstrx]

I am a woman... I am always told how amazingly strong and independent I am... if I told you my life story, you wouldnt believe it all happened to me. Im over being the "girl boss". In tired of being strong and independent. I long for softness. I long for warmth and empathy, compassion and love. This is why, even as an adult; I love the classic Disney animations. I love romantic fairytales. And let me tell you... if my white knight rode up on a horse right now to save me, I WOULD LET HIM. I would happily allow myself to be saved. I dont relate to these perfect, girl boss characters. In fact, i detest them. I think their bird brain morons. I have no intention of watching Snow White. They lost me after they ruined The Little Mermaid. It was okay for Eric to save Ariel. They didnt need to change it. Trust me... if I'm trapped in a burning building, I want a FIREMAN to save me. Not a fire woman. Lets speak truthfully, please and thank you.

[@jeniferclemente1252]

Jenna would be a better Snow White if she’s willing to put up with writers that rewrote the story and change it according to the classic animated film. Rachel really has been brainwashed by other “perfect” women characters in the “modern Disney films” cuz she puts out everything that the audience never liked about them in her real personality…Her looking at those characters as “role models” is terrifying. Especially when she defends the stupidity towards women who don’t relate to any real women at all. And the fact that she believes Snow to be dated, really shows she hasn’t watched the film in years and has absolutely no idea what the story was about. She even admitted that the animated film was scary to her when she was young and hasn’t watched it in years…

[@Ingridfire]

Growing up I love Evelyn played by Rachel Weizs in the Mummy. She had a strong and interesting character arc, and because she had a personality, emotions and FLAWS! Her replacement got rid of the funny quirky demeanor and presented herself as poised and perfect. Almost every female lead character nowadays is perfect that they don't need help, no real person is ever perfect. And I hate that falling in love or asking for help is treated as the worst thing a woman can do

[@LittleSisterReacts]

Agreed. 🙂

[@mirandagoldstine8548]

I totally agree because I grew up up watching the Mummy and the Mummy Returns. Evie was quite fun and passionate about her interests which in a way influenced my interest in Egyptology. Also the guy who plays Jonathan is quite funny. Although I did have times when I would jump out of my skin when we first meet Jonathan. I did not like that emerging mummy which Jonathan pushes up. Every time I saw that seen it always made me jump out of my skin. Plus their relationship, looking back at it, reminds me a bit of my relationship with my brother because he does get on my nerves but I still love him.

[@qwmx]

The actress was also part Egyptian too, which matches the character's bio.

[@maricrisilao2860]

Disney is destroying the the classic fairy tales that the children love and that we grew up reading😢

[@hallen.09]

It also damages young men a lot - for example, when all modern woke movies have male villains and female heroes (which is fine on its own), and then the female hero mentions the masculinity of the villain, that really sets an image of "man bad, woman good" in young men's minds, which can be very damaging.

[@twimper]

I love her she IS the woman they keep failing so badly to portray.

[@thejessegrant]

100% she is a great example of a strong, independent and intelligent woman who can still admit she isn’t perfect and has doubts like every other human! Man or woman!

[@andsands3601]

Love Jenna! What an incredibly intelligent woman she is .

[@BAZTI12]

I would have no problem with some original movies featuring strong and independent women but Disney seems to think they're gonna get canceled if any female character is dependent on anyone

[@Sinnn13]

I love Jenna. She’s young, smart and talented. Which is exactly the opposite of what we are seeing these days. We want original material, talent and classics that we know, brought to life on screen.

[@Johnsmith-ko9yj]

Looks like this Snow White will end up single, childless , drinking boxed wine with her cats. Stunning and Brave.

[@xgray2012]

No shit.

[@pecahalloween]

Guess nobody will come to wake her up.

[@voltexvoltex3283]

​@@pecahalloweenheck no. Shes independent! She'll wake herself up.

[@budi1940]

But that’s an extremely derogatory thing to say. Marriage and children aren’t inherently bad things to lack, nor are they bad things to desire.

[@biotechdanc]

That would make an excellent show. Each of her 7 cats named for a dwarf. I wonder if someone has actually done that.

[@nicholewilde4750]

When you ask people who the “pillar” or “anchor” in their family is, it’s usually that grandmother or mother in the family who did stay at home. The “housewives” that we so devalue in our society for not bringing home a paycheck we’re also usually the individuals most focused on not only their family, but their community. As we lose that type of strong woman in society we are becoming more and more lonely, angry people yet are offended if you examine why. Woman are very powerful, but usually not in the same way as men. If men are swords and shields, women are the forges that produce those swords and shields and the welds that hold them together. We are equally strong in different but equally important ways and todays “strong female lead” is a woman who shows a more masculine expression of strength, often to the detriment of more feminine types of strength.

[@iasked9392]

Theres a meme about it in my country. When someone comes home their first words were: "where's mom?" It meant that we subconsciously look for our mother when we are exhausted and we look for care and support from our mothers.

[@AGETheGawdYT]

What’s wrong with Rachel Zieglers assesment? She just said “It’s not 1937” and she also explained the story. Wtf is the problem ? 🙄🙄

[@odettep1464]

I feel a lot of main female roles back in the 80s and 90s, even early 2000s were written sooo much better than now. The best example that a lot of people will know is Ripely from the Aliens franchise. She showed emotion (cuz god forbid a woman actually cries in a film because doing so she's automatically "weak"). She stepped up when needed to even when scared shitless. She wasn't afraid to rely on others (men or women). She helped the opposite sex without belittling them to prove she was "better". She even got laid, because at the end of they day we are humans and we need that affection (since women now are all about "we don't need no man" BS). There are so many more females leads back then that were written just as well and people went to see the movie because it was actually good and didn't have some bs agenda. Write a good script with good characters and people can careless if it's a man or a woman. Write a crappy story line with crappy characters and the movie will tank. If any retired hollywood writers are seeing this, please come back and teach these newbies how it's done because I don't think I can take anymore of these type of female characters.

[@kristiannaline6067]

I think Once Upon a Time did a great job making Snow a strong female character with normal human flaws and struggles...even when magic was involved. I'd rather watch Once Upon a Time again than to see the live action, post-modern Snow White movie

[@dashx1103]

And, thankfully, you have the ability to watch Once Upon a Time and not watch Snow White. But you really didn't care about the race and ethnicity swapping in OUAT? Or OUAT's gay and bi characters? That was okay? But not a half-European actor as Snow White?

[@qwmx]

What I like about Once Upon a Time was tha it didn't feel like it was whacked across our heads and she was originally a sweet and innocent girl, but being in exile forced her to toughen up.

[@angelplayz5783]

Jenna is smart and she sees the writing on the wall in Hollywood. She's even going at it with the showrunners of Wednesday trying to stay true to the character Wednesday. Jenna is fighting back against the same people who fought with Henry Cavill over his character. The woke mob is attempting to rewrite humanity as a whole making characters more flat and unrelatable and, in some cases, completely outside of the characters themselves just to push a message. It's becoming annoying and is making most of us seek other forms of media that are actually written well. Women and men should unite against this attack on us. This is a mockery of our humanity as a whole in media and we should no longer support it. Hollywood feels like a disgusting, slimy church where people go to worship woke culture and politics. It's turned into a disgusting soapbox of depravity that points at everyone calling them depraved projecting all of their faults onto the world around them. No one wants to get lectured by the biggest hypocrites in the world especially when they are going to the movies to get entertained. Hollywood is imploding. Jenna and others see it.

[@AnaiahCampbell-jo3sy]

I think an example of a female leader that Disney actually did well is Mulan (the original, don’t get me wrong the live action ruined the heart of the movie) because, as he says in the video, she actually has to WORK to be heroic. She’s relatable because she’s not just “born perfect” she’s inspiring because she keeps her gentleness, kindness, and love for her family while pushing through real challenges to become the hero little girls can look up to.

[@brickgarden]

Here’s the message they’re sending to children: Girls, you have to be absolutely perfect no matter what, and forget that falling in love crap. You need no one. Boys, you are completely worthless and a waste of skin. You’ll never have any worth. Show your kids the older stuff. Let boys have their super heros and girls have their princesses back. Teach them men and women are ment to work together and compliment one another. It’s sickening what Hollywood and Disney are trying to do right now.

[@cinegoth4144]

It’s refreshing hearing a young actress like this think objectively.

[@SuperEgo19]

Not going to be dreaming of true love, she says. She’s going to be “the leader she can be”. With that paradigm who is she planning to “lead”? Who is following her exactly? Where is she “leading” them if she doesn’t believe in true love-a misandrist utopia wrought with endless mental suffering. This girl is very immature if not straight up ignorant.

[@aavaron]

my first thought after hearing this was: what's wrong with dreaming about true love? why they treating it like something awful to do? not everyone has to be some sort of leader or fighter and that's perfectly fine and it doesnt make this person weak.

[@Rakshiir]

A good leader actually knows that he or she needs someone to continue what they have built. This is the issue we have with several characters but also in real life. Everyone should be doing what they want, thats fine, considering how many single working women we have that certainly aren`t happy you have to ask: What is wrong with love and family? It is easy to preach some political agenda if you are rich enough and good looking, so you propably get someone if you really want, but for the average person? If you miss the window of finding a partner, you might be lonely for the rest of your life.

[@ptvfl]

Just because my dreams are different than yours doesn't mean they’re unimportant!”, Louisa May Alcott, Little Women. This is one thing I adore about little women, it doesn’t scorn the idea of making women have happening endings and romance. Women don’t always have to be strong, sometimes simplicity and the everyday tasks of motherhood are enough and it doesn’t make fun of that.

[@juliasplanet7929]

It's okay to dream about true love, the only thing they need to change about the og is having Snow White not be 14 while the prince is in his thirties

[@mkaplan1383]

Careful Jenna, speaking out like that against Disney Hivemind will get you kicked out of their exclusive club and blacklist you. It is a badge of honor and you should be congratulated for that!

[@decisive-dolphin]

No kidding, not enough people talking about this "club". It is real, and we're subconsciously ignoring it because it's scary, but it's only gonna get worse if people like Jenna Ortega don't step up and talk about it.

[@-redacted_by_youtube]

She didnt say anything that was speaking out against them. You need to listen again to what shes saying. Not one time did she call out the woke shit.

[@decisive-dolphin]

@@-redacted_by_youtube Not directly, obviously. She expressed distaste for a large component of the "woke shit".

[@mramisuzuki6962]

Jennas eyes are actually located in the right places on her skull, she’s already on the Disney blacklist.

[@mmm-mmm]

don't worry. she said nothing about disney's new version of snow white. the poster just wants you to think she did. details matter...

[@anth5189]

For a young woman Jenna is incredibly mature and intelligent. She sees right through all the sh$t and isn't afraid to make her point. Opposed to the people making these movies who are immature and infantile in their mentality. Ignorance, selfishness, bigotry, arrogance etc are NOT signs of strength, they are signs of weakness. Every female character now has these traits.

[@Gosh0]

She doesn't address Snow White, this interview was before SW was even announced.

[@katej9934]

There is "girl boss" snow white. In the Witchers story "lesser evil" there was a female character who was described like snow white and she saved herself, not by the prince. Even though she was some kind of villainess she was actually relatable.

[@joyosumolo4965]

What sucks is that she says “she’s not dreaming of true love anymore” as if women don’t dream about being in love or have a type that they fawn over. She’s basically saying women don’t have a dream dude and that it’s wrong to dream of it, even in the 1930s

[@f15stroke]

You, for some reason, cut the most telling point of Zegler's interview where she says 1937 with complete disdain and then laughs about it. She believes generations of people who came before her should be looked down upon. There is absolutely nothing I can learn from a 22 year old elitest about the roles of people in society.

[@jeffmcdonald4225]

Thank you! The worst message being told to everyone (male or female) is "you're perfect just the way you are". It's as bad as telling a story where a 98 pound woman beats up a 200 pound man. Well, except that's actually a dangerous message.

[@brayanvillanueva7527]

This video is why I have so much respect for Jenna Ortega!!

[@clayannaday4763]

Snow White literally saved Disney when it was made and now Disney is gonna use Snow White to destroy itself.

[@jamesyoung7400]

I find it humorous and very telling. When Jenna Ortega calls out bad writing and ensures the character she is playing is true to the roll and the end work is better for it she is applauded. When Henry Cavill does this he is portrayed as an obsessed and crazed fan who is a disruption and is ruining the work of wonderful writers, even though anyone watching the show know that its success was his contributions and guiding the story back to the source material.

[@ema-db9ri]

Literally who said that about henry cavill?

[@kkraut]

@@ema-db9rithat’s the entire reason for why he was fired

[@O___P]

@@ema-db9ri Showrunners and writers. But the same weren't happy with Jenna Ortega either. The audiences love both.

[@Dude_Slick]

White man. Need I say more? And to be fair Jenna did get bashed by the left at first. She just rose above it.

[@dantespimp]

@@ema-db9ri I specifically remember article hit-pieces going after Henry shortly after he announced his departure from the show. They tried to make it seem he was obsessed and harassing the show runner. But funny enough, those articles never provided PROOF he actually create chaos on the set or made cast/crew uncomfortable. As for Jenna Ortega... actually, I recall HER receiving shit too. The writers of Wednesday weren't so happy when she mentioned in an interview how annoyed she was by some of the dialogue and the work she changed herself to make Wednesday more... Wednesday lol. Some overly sensitive writer prick got on her for that (taking offense that she called them out for their bad character writing lol). And then later, that same writer made a passive-aggressive bitchy comment about 'seeing her in the lines' (the Writer's Strike). It was pretty petty. In the end, it doesn't matter if you're a man or woman. If you're a geek who is passionate about the content you love, you are already perceived as a threat and target for egotistically driven assholes who got nothing to do but to self-project their self-esteem issues onto you. Crikes, it's like middle school all over again lol...

[@joeking4206]

Totally agree. It’s insulting to women to group them all as Uber strong leaders who are “better” than men. It’s complete BS. Worse than that, it’s boring, so we stop going to see the movies. Simple.

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

Sylvie from Loki is exactly this toxic girlboss type of character. Perfect, superior to all Lokis, everyone likes her as soon as she shows up, smug, no kindness, only punching. Why does stong female now mean no feelings no weaknesses no kindness? Its like Hollywood tells us these qualities are bad a weak trait! I think you nailed it with how you said these girlboss characters tell girls they dont have to work or get better or grow. Because thats not a good message for life. I noticed that already on social media. A girl posts an opinion. Someone disagrees,that person isnt necessarily rasist or sexist, they just see things differently. And the girl immediately insults them and blocks them. Problem solved. But this aint real life. In real life, you wont be perfect for everyone. You will encounter people that will dislike you, and they dont even have to have a reason. Thats just life. But these girl boss characters teach girls nowadays that if someone dislikes them or something they do, that makes that other person immediarely a villain and they dont have to include those people in their lives. I really dont know how these girls wanna go thru life, because they will have collegues or neighbours or sisters and brothers in law who will dislike them. What then? Will they refure to look at themsleves, admit they might be in a wrong, because these movies taught them that Im a girl and Im awesome authomaticaly and everyone is evil?

[@Luy22]

Why was Reva in this? She got completely lost by the end lmao. Also we need more like Jenna and Henry, Netflix needs to attach writers who actually appreciate and like the work they’re doing.

[@summerrose8110]

1:07- Jenna is correct about leaving our characters alone. If only Halle Bailey and Rachel had brains to get that.

[@Ya_Boy_Jwolf]

More actors should be like Jenna Ortega

[@ericbrower611]

There have always been writers, directors, performers, putting their own spin on characters in movies. The woke take it to a whole new level. They can't resist going out on the promotional trail with the message "We're going to take this beloved character, and totally subvert our portrayal. Because we want to show just how unique we are, in our contempt for the character and the fans. It's almost a narcissistic *need* (no, *not* 'almost').

[@MariaMilenovasArt]

I'm tired of girl bosses. I want a FAIRYTALE, because the world is already too real!

[@PuddleOfDucks]

Yeah, this is why smaller studios should have a turn in the lime light instead of recycling all the same stuff over and over

[@kagome1000o]

I knew I liked her on Wednesday and I had respect for her for not taking any step from the Director, aside from the fact that we have a similar name, the fact that she’s a normal human being in Hollywood just skyrockets my opinion

[@dakwa1]

I have not watched any show with her. But from what she has shown outside these shows she has been in, she understands more about what people want, than many of these executives do. Kudos to her for speaking up like she has. I think Ortega and the man that played "The Witcher" both told Netflix what was needed to be told.

[@symphonyheart1384]

Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism

[@mikky3536]

Honestly this actually spoke to me because I always thought these “modern strong female characters” came off as the quote on quote “pick me girls” who are like I’m so cool and badass I can’t be compared to any other girl. Witch… for real women in the world looking at that is unrealistic/not relatable. Most women I know who are strong in my life all have soft spots and back stories and ways about them where they struggle and are HUMAN. Removing that human quality and making these super women in every single movie makes them seem like goddesses/gods instead of real people or “an unattainable expectation of what women are and can be” so I agree 100% with Jenna Ortega on that basis. We learn this “othering” in art school where they create the idealized powerful women who are so disconnected from the human experience they are basically an idealized god who are superior to humans so instead of relating to them we just see another unattainable expectation of women.

[@davidbencivenga226]

Jenna Ortega is spot on. Disney should open their ears and listen. This is you Iger, KK, Phoebe and Rachel.

[@claudegarmon2958]

Love her. She is a star by the golden age of Hollywood standard. They better recognize. She is money, she is queen bee royal jelly, and Hollywood is dried up like a hunger strike

[@CrazennCajunn]

The witcher series is a great example of how to make a solid female lead. Ciri and yen are badasses but also constantly fighting their personal inadequacies

[@sspplliiccee]

Props to commentary channels being able to take a 15 second quote and stretch it out to 12 mins😂