Why Sonic Adventure is BETTER than Super Mario 64 - Jeremy

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Jeremy Klinger

Jeremy Klinger

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@jakescartoons6045
@jakescartoons6045 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever people say that Sonic had a rough transition into 3D, I'll just point them to this video from now on.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that 👌
@shrapt3528
@shrapt3528 2 жыл бұрын
I mean he did take a while to transition to 3D so I would say it took a while but sonic adventure is pretty good for a first fully 3D sonic game.
@No-OneSpecial000
@No-OneSpecial000 Жыл бұрын
Sonic did have a rough transition into 3d. It started with sonic 3d blast and that wasn’t truly 3d then there was the SEGA Saturn which was intended to have ab3d sonic game but had been cancelled and the only 3d games was a spinoff and sonic world. By the time SEGA made a 3d sonic game it was much later and everyone was comfortable with working on 3d games whilst SEGA was still at the basics technically speaking.
@ORLY911
@ORLY911 Жыл бұрын
The person who said it played 06 for the memes and never played any sonic game before that
@Flare8295
@Flare8295 Жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree with that whole concept
@plus6481
@plus6481 3 жыл бұрын
I agree tbh! Sonic Adventure is a great game. I wouldn't call it revolutionary personally, but it's super fun!
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
It's very fun! Not sure if revolutionary is the proper adjective, I was more referring to Mario 64 there, but it was definitely pretty innovative and incredible for the time. Thanks for watching!
@Safalmao
@Safalmao 2 жыл бұрын
its was revolutionary for the sonic series though
@Noneofnones
@Noneofnones 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@memedealer6410
@memedealer6410 2 жыл бұрын
the sequel can be revolutionary for sonic by having a deep story and by everything by Eggman p*ssing on the moon
@randallrutherford1384
@randallrutherford1384 2 жыл бұрын
I looked back at sonic adventure tonight… and I can say it was revolutionary for the time it came out!
@blueinsomniac
@blueinsomniac 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, Big is *technically* faster than Gamma, but it's hard to notice because Gamma has a faster acceleration and carries his momentum into his different abilities unlike Big, who drops like a rock as soon as he jumps.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that, really interesting, thanks!
@TheMonkeyMan7253
@TheMonkeyMan7253 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Amy is actually SLOWER than Big really boils my blood! I still love Sonic Adventure, though!
@avasyubiswal5421
@avasyubiswal5421 3 ай бұрын
my thats a pretty nice information there
@MichaelRBurke
@MichaelRBurke 3 жыл бұрын
You're not an idiot for saying this at all. I am not positive if I like Sonic Adventure more than Super Mario 64, but I may - and much for the reasons you've stated. Both are great games, and Sonic Adventure gets a rep it does not deserve.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a stupid take, I just think a lot of people are incredibly blinded by nostalgia and would bash me for claiming such a thing as my opinion. Both games were amazing at release, but Adventure just holds up a lot better today.
@Zoogi.e
@Zoogi.e 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremymklinger I absolutely agree with the idea that some games, while great for their time, have not aged well. I’ve recently played a bit of mario 64 and sunshine on the switch. Despite the reception upon release, and the legacy of both games, I think sunshine is the better game by today’s standards (which I also saw you say in another video). Would love to see a video of you talking about why :)
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I didn't think 3D Mario games became that good till Galaxy & onwards. Not putting down 64 or Sunshine here. I respect 64 for it's foundation to 3D. But it didn't hold my interest very much and while 64 isn't an bad game & has some improvements over 64 like the movesets & an own camera angle, it's also worst in terms of the structure, level designs, more obnoxious or repetitive missions and the fact u have to chase Shadow Mario throughout the entire main course instead of the amount of Shine Sprites u only need is absolutely tedious.
@highlandave8507
@highlandave8507 2 жыл бұрын
Both games get a bad rep today. They were both goated at the time it came out.
@Shadow.CS8
@Shadow.CS8 Жыл бұрын
You forget sonic adventure has a good storyline and great character development
@stringcheese27
@stringcheese27 2 жыл бұрын
Not comparing them graphically is great, I also feel like gameplay is more important than looks. The games now, while they look absolutely beautiful, really ask yourself if games actually need super juicer graphics.
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 3 жыл бұрын
I'm on the same vote. While I respect Mario 64 for it's revolutionary of 3D gaming and whatnot, the game didn't hold up to me that well. The controls & camera are so archaic and while I do find the first halve of the levels pretty solid ( minus Hazy Maze Cave ), the later halve starts to get an little bit obnoxious & repetitive. Especially with the likes of Tick Tock Clock & Rainbow Ride. While Adventure 1 isn't flawless either and had some part that's age, I had way more fun and easier time with SA1 than I have with Mario 64 and there's not an single gameplay style that I hate ( except Big's gameplay. But even that isn't all that bad. ).
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I completely agree with all of that 👌
@TheComemnter
@TheComemnter 3 жыл бұрын
Going from level to level on SA1 was NOT EASY. It took me a good 10-15 minutes to find the right steps to go from level to level
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 3 жыл бұрын
Pezzy. You're talking in the hub worlds. Well ok. I can understand. But I prefer Adventure 1's hub world over Mario 64's.
@TheComemnter
@TheComemnter 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaretco6423 I respect your opinion.
@Jrock24cantbebeat
@Jrock24cantbebeat 2 жыл бұрын
I remember I asked a friend once, “Who has better music? Sonic or Mario?” That f*cker told me “Mario.” What kinda answer is that? Mario has catchy music, I admit to that, but Sonic’s music has more personality, more attitude and atmosphere.
@millabasset1710
@millabasset1710 2 жыл бұрын
Sega would likely still be making consoles if the Saturn didn't fail and if they didn't waste time on the Neptune project, People often forget Nintendo was losing relevance after the Super Nintendo and had flops like the virtual boy; the original Game Boy was Nintendo's saving grace for over a decade, the N64 and Gamecube weren't the best selling consoles of their time.
@millabasset1710
@millabasset1710 2 жыл бұрын
You're also right about the music, Mario has some decent tunes, but even the worst Sonic games have head bangers.
@traviscunningham7062
@traviscunningham7062 2 жыл бұрын
@@millabasset1710 Sonic has electronic, pop, and rock music Mario has orchestra, funk, and jazz music.
@LexxGee1234
@LexxGee1234 2 жыл бұрын
ok, but like why would you call the person a "f@#%er?"
@ninjdraw8305
@ninjdraw8305 Жыл бұрын
lmao this dude heard an opinion and was all like: 🤯🤯🤯
@lemonadesnake
@lemonadesnake Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: whoever says Sonic Adventure’s graphics aged poorly or the game is a glitchy mess probably only played the following versions (aka DX) GameCube, PC (2004), Xbox 360, PS3, Steam
@mrhuman5092
@mrhuman5092 6 ай бұрын
Honestly the versions aren't as hugely different as people say to make a truly game changing difference imo, I feel like people act as if you've played an entirely different game if you played dx, yeah maybe it's overall a bit worse but not to the extent people make out
@lemonadesnake
@lemonadesnake 6 ай бұрын
@@mrhuman5092 trust me there are tons of differences some more under the hood which make the game worse. Although the worst version of it is the steam one so if i played dx id probably play it on the gamecube
@גוהטנקס
@גוהטנקס 2 жыл бұрын
you forgot to mention the super sonic story, as of right now in Sonic games it's kinda common thing already but tbh they really deserve props on managing to make a challenging boss fight to an invincible charcter.
@PEHfinale
@PEHfinale 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's really hard for many people to separate "fun" from "importance". Yes, Mario 64 was groundbreaking. But that doesn't automatically make it fun anymore. And I agree that Sonic Adventure wins in the fun department by a pretty wide margin.
@goutirecords
@goutirecords 2 жыл бұрын
Sonic adventure was so impressive for 1998 Both games age well except sonic adventure because of face expressions But it is not a bad thing cuz it is one of the first 3d games to offer facial expressions
@v4nta197
@v4nta197 3 жыл бұрын
Opinion based but I respect sonic adventure
@dairhat
@dairhat 3 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer Mario 64 since it's such a replayable wonde that still holds up (at least for me) but cool video.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's quality for sure and I respect your opinion. Glad you enjoyed!
@stocker7639
@stocker7639 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer sonic adventure but I respect your opinion.
@Bombastic_daioh
@Bombastic_daioh Жыл бұрын
Adventure 1 is much more replayable and has way more veriety but ok
@infinitypowergaming2995
@infinitypowergaming2995 11 ай бұрын
​@@Bombastic_daiohnot when you speedrun sm64
@Bombastic_daioh
@Bombastic_daioh 11 ай бұрын
@@infinitypowergaming2995 lmao even there 64 is better lol
@LiquidOrcana
@LiquidOrcana 2 жыл бұрын
While I don't agree with some of them, I really do respect the points you ended up putting forth, honestly by the end of the video it had me looking at both of the games (mainly SA1) a bit differently. Mario 64 will still be the better game overall in my book, but I definitely think that you laid out your reasons for liking SA1 more very well and made a pretty compelling argument for it.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad ya think so :)
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 2 жыл бұрын
@IsaacInfernape2000 (Raman) I like both Sonic and Ocarina of Time my favorite Videogames are Sonic Spyro Rayman and Legend of Zelda.
@Victory-in-YAHUSHA
@Victory-in-YAHUSHA 3 жыл бұрын
Of course Sonic Adventure is better in almost every way. Being released on a more powerful hardware also helped.
@highlandave8507
@highlandave8507 2 жыл бұрын
And it came out later too. Mario 64 came out in 1996 as Sonic Adventure came out in 1999
@Victory-in-YAHUSHA
@Victory-in-YAHUSHA 2 жыл бұрын
@@highlandave8507 Yep. Indeed they did.
@TheChckster
@TheChckster 2 жыл бұрын
Said by someone who has never played sonic adventure or super Mario 64
@Victory-in-YAHUSHA
@Victory-in-YAHUSHA 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheChckster Who hasn't?
@TheChckster
@TheChckster 2 жыл бұрын
@@Victory-in-YAHUSHA I’m a sega fan boy and I say sonic adventure isn’t better…I prefer adventure but I put my bias aside to come to a conclusion.
@Heavenlydistortion
@Heavenlydistortion 3 жыл бұрын
Just found this video definitely subbing! Keep up the good work!
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Glad you enjoyed the video!
@MetaKnuxXbeats
@MetaKnuxXbeats 2 жыл бұрын
I do agree with this video a lot. Maybe it is because I grew up with Sonic Adventure while I played the Mario games a bit later but even nowadays, I find a more easier time revisiting Sonic Adventure then I do Mario 64. Not saying Mario 64 is a bad game, far from it actually. I think it is a revolutionary game that set the standards for 3D platforming but I don't really need to tell anyone that, it is pretty much it's legacy. I just have more fun with Sonic Adventure.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
I have more fun with adventure by a landslide, Mario 64 is more revolutionary and important to gaming, but sonic adventure plays better today and is a blast
@superplushroompower-up
@superplushroompower-up 2 жыл бұрын
From a first-timers perspective, you're right about how Mario 64 is more about finding where to go. However, when you already know all the places to go, and know the game like the back of your hand, it can be pretty fun to try and find new ways, intentional or unintentional, of getting all the stars and trying to get them as fast as you can.
@DanielAntovski
@DanielAntovski Жыл бұрын
Isn't that like the whole point of sonic games?
@superplushroompower-up
@superplushroompower-up Жыл бұрын
@@DanielAntovski Yes, and I wasn't saying anything against Sonic Adventure. Sonic Adventure is one of my favorite games ever. I think I was just defending that point of Mario 64. It's been 10 months, I don't remember exactly.
@DanielAntovski
@DanielAntovski Жыл бұрын
@@superplushroompower-up ok
@SuperPiposaru
@SuperPiposaru 2 жыл бұрын
I'll always have my bias for Sonic, so of course I agree, but it's also really nice to have people that can still ook at it from the perspective that both of these games are really rad! Great vid!
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed my perspective :)
@luginess0
@luginess0 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Super Mario Sunshine vs. Sonic Adventure 2
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
I posted a video about Sonic Adventure 2 this past week that you should definitely check out, but I'm not gonna do sa2 vs. sunshine because I feel like Sunshine takes a lot of hate from people nowadays and Adventure 2 is one of the more well-received Sonic games.
@FamousAaron99
@FamousAaron99 2 жыл бұрын
Adventure definitely aged better than SM64. The controls, the soundtrack, extra playable characters. The hub world really isn't that bad and the camera controls aren't the best but you could easily get around that. The Chao garden isn't as good as Adventure 2's garden but it gives you something extra to do even after completing the game.
@millabasset1710
@millabasset1710 2 жыл бұрын
SA1 is still playable, people who can't control Sonic simply suck at the game. While Sonic 2006 had bad controls, mediocre games like Shadow the Hedgehog had responsive controls. So the myth of "Sonic can't control well in 3D" was always a lie.
@shrapt3528
@shrapt3528 2 жыл бұрын
@@millabasset1710 I wouldn't say people suck at the game if they can't control sonic in 3D. It depends what game your playing. For example, games like Sonic Hereos and Shadow feel like your on ice all the time but games like generations are really easy to play. If your transitioning from a nintendo game such as mario, it could be quite hard getting used to sonic's controls. In my opinion, I think sonic will always be kinda easy and if its hard its probably because of some shit level design.
@legoboy7107
@legoboy7107 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone else who doesn't think 64's camera is awful! I never really had much of a problem with 64's camera, I didn't play 64 until high school and instead grew up with both galaxy games and also eventually played Sunshine before ever playing 64, but once I did, it always worked rather well for me with only a few hiccups here and there and I thought it really held its own compared to the other 3 3D Marios I've played (more like 2 since both Galaxies have basically identical cameras), sure it's not absolutely stellar or something but I never really noticed any major negatives with it either, and yet I've seen everyone else say 64 has a horrible camera and I just don't see that.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you, grew up with the galaxy games, went back and played 64 in high school. Having any camera control is better than what galaxy provided for exploring, and for the actual first attempt at this type of camera system, 64 is surprisingly solid.
@christobelcoleslaw6214
@christobelcoleslaw6214 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. One of your shorts randomly popped up on my home page and im glad I started watching your vids. Subbed
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Glad you're enjoying the videos!
@ulisses3557
@ulisses3557 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@LeefLett
@LeefLett 2 жыл бұрын
Subbed. You put so much effort into your videos! Honestly you deserve more subscribers man! And views. For sure.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that! Thank you, it means a lot :)
@cangrejopendejo4909
@cangrejopendejo4909 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why anyone ever complains about Mario 64's controls. Playing it again some 20 years later or so it still controls great while Sonic sometimes goes a little too fast for his own good in Sonic Adventure. I think the controls are good in both, but I have to assume that people who think the Mario 64 controls are bad just suck at platformers. If that's the case then no wonder they prefer Sonic Adventure since it poses practically no challenge whatsoever.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
The controls are fine, the controller sucks. Sonoc does not go too fast, they really got his speed dead on on the adventure games. I wouldn't say I'm bad at platforms, I've 100% every Mario game galaxy onward, and while adventure isn't particularly difficult, it's tough enough. 64 is only difficult because of that controller and levels that don't guide you enough
@Fungiarts
@Fungiarts 3 жыл бұрын
Nah sa1 still has challenge. Also I think Sonics speed is fast enough. Idk why it's always an argument that he goes "too fast" people do tend to use that argument also for the 2D games of sonic. Also people don't suck when they say that they don't like the controls but I feel like that they should have made atleast the platforms bigger because it's so easy to fall off in so many areas in Mario 64 which makes it annoying af sometimes.
@cangrejopendejo4909
@cangrejopendejo4909 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fungiarts All I said was he goes a little too fast sometimes, and I think that's true. For the most part it's fine though. Honestly if you think the platforms should be bigger then I don't think you've very good at platformers. Never had any problems with it even when I was 7 years old.
@Fungiarts
@Fungiarts 3 жыл бұрын
@@cangrejopendejo4909 I am pretty good. Hell I went through super Mario Galaxy 2. It's just that Mario 64 lacks guidance (to be fair sonic adventure does that to with it's hubworlds) but still. I am pretty good actually but I haven't fully mastered it yet. Also I could use the same argument when it comes to sonics speed. You have to you know get good. Sonics speed is perfectly fine if you get good.
@owtheedge3956
@owtheedge3956 2 жыл бұрын
The challenge in SA1 comes from mastering the levels to get the fastest time, further exemplified in SA2 with the ranking system
@junisim9244
@junisim9244 3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Sonic Adventure 2 is on the gamecube, the game is called sonic adventure 2 battle. Even though the first sonic game I played is sonic adventure 2, I have been trying to revisit older 2d sonic games, mostly through Sonic Mega Collection on the gamecube.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I grew up with sa2 battle! Love that game! That's cool, I haven't really played the older Sonic games, I need to get on that. Need a Genesis tho
@junisim9244
@junisim9244 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you played such an underrated game :)
@deathfrombelow1193
@deathfrombelow1193 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremymklinger watching your videos im guessing you're an original hardware type of guy but just so you know you can get the old sonic games everywhere now, theyve been re released everywhere
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
@@deathfrombelow1193 Yeah, I know, I just like to play games as the developers intended, but I appreciate the info
@paulearl8203
@paulearl8203 Жыл бұрын
Sonic Adventure is miles better and has aged a million times better. Like most N64 games Mario is impossible to play now.
@jesuspernia8031
@jesuspernia8031 Жыл бұрын
If people praise Mario 64 and OOT to high heavens, then Sonic Adventure should MUCH better. It’s aged a trillion times better in terms of level design, controls, camera, etc. Yeah it’s shown it’s age now, but so what? It’s an old game it’s inevitable to happen to any old game. It’s still a fun time.
@infinitypowergaming2995
@infinitypowergaming2995 11 ай бұрын
​@@jesuspernia8031cause super mario 64 is the most speedrunned game? and zelda is zelda
@camocaplamo4020
@camocaplamo4020 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious how all the sonic fans here are giving logical reasoning for why they like sa1 more than mario 64 and the Only come back mario fans can come up with is 1 word
@TheChckster
@TheChckster 2 жыл бұрын
I like sonic adventure better but I understand Mario 64 is objectively the better game.
@dantelawrence4676
@dantelawrence4676 Жыл бұрын
@@TheChckster Neither game is objectively better though...
@ArthuzinKK
@ArthuzinKK 4 ай бұрын
"Yahoo!"
@squidguy1420
@squidguy1420 3 жыл бұрын
Nintendo Fans: Blasphemy
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@LexxGee1234
@LexxGee1234 2 жыл бұрын
another bias sonic fan
@rankrodent2772
@rankrodent2772 Жыл бұрын
@@LexxGee1234 another biased mario fan
@W3S3333
@W3S3333 2 жыл бұрын
It took Sega so long to make a proper 3D Sonic game, that even Sonic Adventure couldn't save Sega after Sonic Jam, Sonic 3D Blast and Sonic R--none of which are terrible. Still a 3D Sonic game basically took 2 generations to manifest.
@tempodrake4964
@tempodrake4964 2 жыл бұрын
Whats your point exactly
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 2 жыл бұрын
How to fix Marip 64: For each star you get on a level, you should still and always stay to the level, it got pretty annoying and tedious returning to the castle EVERY SINGLE TIME for ONE mission. And i don't like the N64, that controller sucks, the control sticks breaks easily.
@Michael_Afton40
@Michael_Afton40 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic fans& Mario fans: This is impossible you can't like the both of them!!
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 2 жыл бұрын
Darth Revan Sonic and Spyro Fans: Oh really? What about liking both Sonic and Spyro?
@Witchcraft_VR
@Witchcraft_VR Ай бұрын
Fr lmao
@Captndangr
@Captndangr 3 жыл бұрын
I loved both of them too, I always had some sonic cartoon cds and I played Mario games
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@TommyMarioAshSpiderManSonic1
@TommyMarioAshSpiderManSonic1 4 ай бұрын
0:35 Don't Worry about it Dude I Have Played Super Mario 64 Before and I Never Played Sonic Adventure Dreamcast Before But I Would like to get my own Sega Dreamcast and Sonic Adventure Dreamcast Too as Well
@Tails-The-Smartguy
@Tails-The-Smartguy 7 ай бұрын
Sonic adventure had more characters, story, and iconic music so it got a sequel Meanwhile Mario…… he just exists 💀
@MarioGamer2.0657
@MarioGamer2.0657 4 ай бұрын
Sonic only exists because of Mario.
@Witchcraft_VR
@Witchcraft_VR 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@MarioGamer2.0657Nah, sonic was made to be sega’s mascot and overall face of the company. He was made to be excessively different from mario in terms of gameplay, controls, physics, and concept. Just because he’s “Mario’s op” doesn’t justify him being in existence because of a character that previously dominated the gaming industry.
@MarioGamer2.0657
@MarioGamer2.0657 2 ай бұрын
@@Witchcraft_VR Sega created Sonic because they wanted to compete with Mario, Nintendo.
@Witchcraft_VR
@Witchcraft_VR 2 ай бұрын
@@MarioGamer2.0657 This is also blatantly false. SEGA created sonic for the sole purpose of creating a mascot and overall face of the company. But when sales reached to Mario’s standards, they then became enemies.
@MarioGamer2.0657
@MarioGamer2.0657 2 ай бұрын
@@Witchcraft_VR I guess
@Zantacruz17
@Zantacruz17 3 ай бұрын
I agree sonic adventures way better than Mario 64
@theunknown0887
@theunknown0887 3 жыл бұрын
Sa1 is better IMO since The only time I’m frustrated with the game is bigs story and the perfect chaos fight while Mario 64 a bunch of levels and stars are migraine inducing especially tic toc clock
@theunknown0887
@theunknown0887 3 жыл бұрын
The controls in 64 is terrible in today’s standard while adventures controls is smooth and feels good and pleasuring at the same time except for controlling big since he’s like controlling a fat wad of gum
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, controls are a big deal and deep far better in sonic adventure (big the cat is trash tho lol)
@cangrejopendejo4909
@cangrejopendejo4909 3 жыл бұрын
@@theunknown0887 Huh? No offense but you're just bad at it lol. Playing it again 20 years later I still have no problem with Mario 64 whatsoever, but Sonic Adventure can be kinda sloppy.
@shrapt3528
@shrapt3528 2 жыл бұрын
@@cangrejopendejo4909 I mean if hes new to SM64, he might find trouble with it for the first time because of shit camera controls. Hell I played it on All Stars and got bored of it because of that. Meanwhile Adventure is way easier and easy to get into. Also I disagree with you about Adventure being sloppy in controls I feel like this is one of the best sonic movesets/controls we've seen.
@highlandave8507
@highlandave8507 2 жыл бұрын
@@theunknown0887 I don't agree with SA1 being smooth. There are definitely some control issue with it, like in Mystic Ruins, almost all of Big's levels, and some choppiness against the final boss, but it's still the better game overall, likely because it came out much later to better tune into 3D. 64 isn't really that bad either. The controller was really bad though.
@RetroDark_The_Wizard
@RetroDark_The_Wizard Жыл бұрын
2:12 Mario 64 is not the first platformer to do this. That would be the 1994 game Geograph Seal. The first platformer with the camera was the 1995 game jumping flash. Mario 64 didn't innovate on the camera in any way. The only thing i can give it credit for is the anolauge stick, which sega kinda did at the same time, but came out a month later. Correction, you can't give mario 64 credit for the stick because it was already common place in arcades. it also was popular on a lot of third party controllers.
@sunnynotsonny2411
@sunnynotsonny2411 11 ай бұрын
Both games are great, but I agree with Sonic Adventure being the better game And if anybody reading this thinks Super Mario 64 is the better game, I still respect your opinion. Mario 64 is a great game as well
@millabasset1710
@millabasset1710 2 жыл бұрын
1996 vs 1998 Sonic Adventure was a better jump into 3D platforming than Mario 64.
@jazazo4956
@jazazo4956 2 жыл бұрын
💀
@rankrodent2772
@rankrodent2772 Жыл бұрын
@@jazazo4956 he’s right you know
@Bombastic_daioh
@Bombastic_daioh Жыл бұрын
Facts!
@traviscunningham7062
@traviscunningham7062 Жыл бұрын
Mario improved it in Sunshine
@Storm-ft3hy
@Storm-ft3hy 10 ай бұрын
​@@rankrodent2772 he was infact not
@easylemon6640
@easylemon6640 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh sonic's first 3D game was Sonic 3D Blast and Super Mario 64 was MILES better than that.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
Mario 64 is indeed faaaaar better than sonic 3d blast, but that wasn't a main line game. It's like saying Kirby’s transition to 3d was Kirby’s dream course and not the Forgotten land.
@shrapt3528
@shrapt3528 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremymklinger Exactly they were experimenting with 3D with sonic because a character like sonic if not any video game character is hard to transition to 3D. You have to balance the world around sonic so he can fit into the environment well because of his speed.
@hedgyrblx1280
@hedgyrblx1280 2 жыл бұрын
You are comparing games from 2 generations.
@infinitypowergaming2995
@infinitypowergaming2995 11 ай бұрын
As a mario fan ill agree that sonic is better but i like speedrunning so mario 64 is the way to go for me
@GunnarWahl
@GunnarWahl 2 жыл бұрын
Red mountain act 2 is such a bop it is insane
@omeganik2615
@omeganik2615 Жыл бұрын
I know i' m a bit late to the party, but in my opinioni Mario 64 Will Always hold more interest than Sonic Adventure, because if you boil these two games down, they are great games with some unecessary padding. And Adventure Is a Fun game, but that' s It. Mario 64 holds mamy mysteries and Legends that are famous across gaming, It leaves you thinking, and thats what separates the two. And the soundtrack emphasises that. While Sonic Adventure has countless bangers, Mario 64 excels in the ambience, like in Jolly Roger bay and its calming music ( even if Deep in the water there Is One of the scariest enemies in a videogame) and the stories that people have with this game. Just do a Quick test: which One was cerished and Remembered more: Sonic Adventure or Mario 64?
@EGGJAC
@EGGJAC 3 жыл бұрын
Time to play sonic adventure
@recoupxtra7270
@recoupxtra7270 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@supersonicjayden3758
@supersonicjayden3758 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone realize Mario 64 Came out on Sonic's Birthday?
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
It did? I didn't notice lol
@knight7se7en
@knight7se7en 9 ай бұрын
Sonic Adventure aged incredibly well. Super Mario 64 did not. Your take is not controversial at all in my opinion.
@quive5705
@quive5705 3 жыл бұрын
Who's mario?
@ms.pirate
@ms.pirate 3 жыл бұрын
What's mario?
@El_Mince
@El_Mince 3 жыл бұрын
When’s Mario?
@TyreeSakai
@TyreeSakai 2 жыл бұрын
Where’s mario?
@hehe-IgoBRRRR
@hehe-IgoBRRRR 2 жыл бұрын
Why's Mario?
@JeanYossa
@JeanYossa 8 ай бұрын
How’s Mario?
@jesterartsdj3699
@jesterartsdj3699 2 жыл бұрын
Nice analysis, Sonic Adventure is definitively better in my opinion. I too did not grow up with either game but have tried both and I could not enjoy 64. Best of wishes and Great video 👍
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@MizfitZer0
@MizfitZer0 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic adventure still looks gorgeous and has amazing controls... mario 64 looks pretty bad these days and i think the controls and collision are absolute garbage and the camera is abysmal
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you there
@luginess0
@luginess0 3 жыл бұрын
Yet Sonic Adventure is criticized way more.
@cangrejopendejo4909
@cangrejopendejo4909 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't disagree more. Never had a problem with the controls for Mario 64 even when I was 7 years old.
@-Anonymous-.
@-Anonymous-. 6 ай бұрын
Sonic adventure, Crash, & Jak & Daxter were my childhood platformers. I played 64 at neighbors house’s but ehh it’s alright. I think sunshine is the Best Mario game (Which is controversial) & also apart of my childhood.
@-Anonymous-.
@-Anonymous-. 6 ай бұрын
Also Toy Story 2
@hazemimam6826
@hazemimam6826 3 жыл бұрын
But i got so mush memories for sm64 and sonic adventure its hard choice i like suber mario 64 and Sonics
@tempodrake4964
@tempodrake4964 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree, stated put your point validly. As a sonic fan, a approve lol but those ppl who just straight up cuss sonic adventure out I the comments rlly gotta go man
@sabhjitsandhu5670
@sabhjitsandhu5670 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic adventure is like six dollars which is a good price
@raphaelmartins6529
@raphaelmartins6529 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Most of the people who say Sonic Adventure is bad have only played the Game Cube/PC version, that's a very bad port. The original version is way more stable. It's so sad that a bad port ruined the legacy of this game. I don't like Super Mario 64 because it's a very different kind of game compared to the classic Mario games.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
Glad ya liked the video! And yeah, I agree there, adventure's legacy has really been ruined by the bad port, as well as the series going downhill nor long after.
@traviscunningham7062
@traviscunningham7062 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremymklinger same with Colors.
@infinitypowergaming2995
@infinitypowergaming2995 11 ай бұрын
Whats wrong with DX i loved it
@JeanYossa
@JeanYossa 8 ай бұрын
@@traviscunningham7062colors is fire
@Euro.Patriot
@Euro.Patriot 2 жыл бұрын
I've played SM64DS and Sonic Adventure 2 and SM64DS is much more fun. I'm currently stuck on Pumpkin Hill. I spent like 20 minutes and only found a single shard.
@superizillian957
@superizillian957 2 жыл бұрын
Any luck yet?
@infinitypowergaming2995
@infinitypowergaming2995 11 ай бұрын
I feel ya i was at one point stuck there for days
@Witchcraft_VR
@Witchcraft_VR Ай бұрын
Hear me out guys, some KZbinr named “ChtinChazz” made a video called “Why Sonic Adventure is WORSE than Super Mario 64” and his review was complete garbage. He only stayed subjective to the flaws and sounded like he was very biased and nostalgic with Mario 64. And there were even lots of Mario glazers in the comments stating stuff like “Old sonic games aged poorly and old mario games aged like fine whine.” Upon rewatching this video, it makes ChitinChazz’s video look like satire 💀
@rankrodent2772
@rankrodent2772 Жыл бұрын
I could never get really into Mario tbh
@Bruno-jy7kg
@Bruno-jy7kg 2 жыл бұрын
4:49 so that's where the hover wisp originated from 🤔🧐
@thecookj454
@thecookj454 2 жыл бұрын
Super Mario 64 is simply the goat but SA was close rival
@MizfitZer0
@MizfitZer0 3 жыл бұрын
Not comparing graphics because 1 came out 2 years later?... if only nintendo fanboys had the same mentality when it came to the megadrive... seeing as that came out 2 years before the snes, yet all they do is say how the graphics on megandrive are “inferior”
@El_Mince
@El_Mince 3 жыл бұрын
Even though both are on par with each other
@TheChckster
@TheChckster 2 жыл бұрын
@@El_Mince no no no no no no no no no. I agree with this post but your reply is wrong as SHIT
@stocker7639
@stocker7639 3 жыл бұрын
I love Sonic adventure. Pd: good video
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@andrewwolfe5479
@andrewwolfe5479 2 жыл бұрын
It should be sunshine vs adventure imo.
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 2 жыл бұрын
Adventure still wins, i hate Mario 64 and Sunshine, insane padding for the latter two...
@athena9029
@athena9029 Жыл бұрын
Sonic Adventure was a great piece of tech at its time, truly showcased the power of the Dreamcast (though it lasted for a year only...) but outside of that, couldn't even set a standard for the Sonic franchise going forward. Super Mario 64? It was a revolutionary game. Without it, 3D platformers wouldn't be. It was so great that to this day it's the standard for making a 3D platformer...to such a degree that from what they took from 64 (and other 3D Marios), SEGA managed to create a close to perfect 3D Sonic game: Frontiers.
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 2 жыл бұрын
Donkey Kong 64 is my favorite version of Donkey Kong and I like it more than Mario 64.
@sanicsanic6890
@sanicsanic6890 Жыл бұрын
I like how your N64 is directly next to your Dreamcast.
@charboy8563
@charboy8563 10 ай бұрын
Me2!😆
@8bitkid835
@8bitkid835 Жыл бұрын
Sonic adventure 1 & 2 are in my opinion the best games of all time
@monke_lord-qq8ws
@monke_lord-qq8ws 2 жыл бұрын
Sonic games have had very good music over the years, probably better than anything Mario has
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
Very true
@20000dino
@20000dino 2 жыл бұрын
Ehhhh... while the Sonic franchise has some of the best soundtracks in gaming, reducing Mario's soundtracks to simply worse than anything Sonic has done is such a gross understatement (and a stupid one as well). Not only does Mario have a myriad of fantastic soundtracks (like Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario 3D World and Super Mario Odyssey), these have, ultimately, completely different purposes than Sonic's soundtracks Sonic soundtracks are fast paced, complex, deliciously layered, and funky, serving the gameplay really well. Mario has a much more varied history with soundtracks. They are generally grandiose, immersive, incredibly eclectic, playful, and even emotional, and however different they may sound, they always feel "Mario" and serve the gameplay really well. Before Super Mario 64, you could say that Mario soundtracks were generally not as a good as Sonic's (which is still a "ehh" statement, to me), but after that... it'd just be wrong to put one over the other. Both franchises have some of the best soundtracks in gaming, they're just doing completely different things - and saying one is unequivocally better than the other is just... dumb.
@monke_lord-qq8ws
@monke_lord-qq8ws 2 жыл бұрын
@@20000dino The only thing stupid here is that you wrote 4 paragraphs with information that could be expressed with 4 sentences
@20000dino
@20000dino 2 жыл бұрын
@@monke_lord-qq8ws Sorry that I'm capable of thoroughly developing and expressing my thoughts through text. It must suck not knowing how to do that - as well as failing to reply in any meaningful way, thus resorting to insult the length of my comment. Sorry if my "stupid" offended you, but my argument about the soundtracks stands.
@ASOtheprO
@ASOtheprO 2 жыл бұрын
Sonic Adventure is better than SM64 and Ocarina of Time if you ask me
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 2 жыл бұрын
Twilight Princess for the Gamecube obliterates Ocarina of Time.
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 2 жыл бұрын
Ocarina of Time is just a museum piece at this point, same for Mario 64.
@jakedebruin2246
@jakedebruin2246 2 жыл бұрын
To me it’s like comparing apples to oranges, oranges are much better!
@JeanYossa
@JeanYossa 8 ай бұрын
But apples clean your teeth and the skin is good for you
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 2 жыл бұрын
I like Sonic and I like Sonic Adventure and I like Donkey Kong 64 and my favorite Sonic Videogames are Shadow the Hedgehog Sonic 06 Sonic Unleashed and Sonic and The Black Knight. I also like Creepypasta Sonic and Spyro more than SCP Foundation Mario and Crash Bandicoot.
@weaponizedknight7316
@weaponizedknight7316 Жыл бұрын
Sonic Adventure is the perfect 90s 3D game
@chadgaming8288
@chadgaming8288 Ай бұрын
No wonder the GameCube version for Sonic Adventure DX: Director’s Cut looked SO MUCH BETTER! But, with how Sonic looks today, Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2 deserves a remaster. Also, just imagine how the graphics will look with today’s consoles! Also, Super Mario 64 on the Switch REALLY looks good on there through Super Mario: 3D All-Stars. Also, Super Mario 64 was my first EVER video game AND the first Mario game I ever played. Sonic Mega Collection was the first Sonic game I played. Adventure was the second, and Adventure 2.
@halalcomrade34
@halalcomrade34 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Sonic first 3D game is Sonic 3D Blast
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that's not a true 3d game, isn't it just isometric? And the gameplay is way different than typical sonic
@boiii3productions945
@boiii3productions945 Жыл бұрын
Geez I don’t think a gameplay style in this game can be wor- *BIG THE CAT enters the chat*
@smithandsuperdeadeyeofthew823
@smithandsuperdeadeyeofthew823 3 жыл бұрын
I maybe more of a sonic and Sega fan But Mario and sonic are both Equally cool Why should it matter which is cooler all that matters is that 2 of these Video game characters are one of the most beloved video game franchises of all time. ALSO HAPPY 30TH ANAVERSERY SONIC THE HEDGEHOG AND MARIO
@theproanimator8447
@theproanimator8447 2 жыл бұрын
they should have added a C stick to the Dreamcast controller
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 2 жыл бұрын
Fr, that would've been great
@iamafish7
@iamafish7 2 жыл бұрын
I don't feel like waiting! Hate and death threat! Okay, now that I've actually watched the video, I'll give a serious response. I've always enjoyed Sonic Adventure more than Mario 64. This was just confirmation bias for me.
@hedgyrblx1280
@hedgyrblx1280 2 жыл бұрын
wdym this video is bias? It's just his opinion
@jaroto12
@jaroto12 2 жыл бұрын
I respect Mario 64 but I prefer sonic adventure
@gamma_dc8289
@gamma_dc8289 2 жыл бұрын
OBJECTIVELY CORRECT
@TorutheRedFox
@TorutheRedFox 2 жыл бұрын
am i the only one who actually prefers using the og n64 controller with sm64?
@thefacelessgamer6190
@thefacelessgamer6190 3 жыл бұрын
no you are 100% wrong i mean nothing you said is correct [joke by the way]
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it's a joke lol, get too many comments like that
@icytee8067
@icytee8067 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, Nice video.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@chrishernandez8328
@chrishernandez8328 3 жыл бұрын
Haha don't worry i won't be spamming any crap here in the comment section even though i kindaaa disagree with you in some ways but i still think this is a very well-done video and i agree with basically most of the arguments. Except that Sonic Adventure is better game lol.
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, fair enough, glad you still enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
@MizfitZer0
@MizfitZer0 3 жыл бұрын
It is a better game
@yucatancallejero
@yucatancallejero 3 жыл бұрын
Mario 64 is too overrated, I don't see why It is so freaking good, but ok
@ulisses3557
@ulisses3557 3 жыл бұрын
What are your favourite mario games
@jeremymklinger
@jeremymklinger 3 жыл бұрын
I did a tier list short if you wanna see how I'd rank every main series mario game, but Galaxy 2 is my favorite, 64 is middle if the road for me
@insertnameheretopleae
@insertnameheretopleae 3 жыл бұрын
hell yeah brother
@raymxslappedyall1891
@raymxslappedyall1891 2 жыл бұрын
couple days ago I seen a new version of mario64 with sonic characters and it looks like plays well
@nicolenash1167
@nicolenash1167 9 ай бұрын
So true
@StarBray64
@StarBray64 Жыл бұрын
0:33 bruh sonic adventure is better, I agree;)
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda hate Mario 64 and Sunshine (never played galaxy). The padding with the stars are just awful, the camera is worse due to the N64 controller which i never liked. It took years until Nintendo actualy tried to add depth with Odyssey but still they love the padding...
@Baxter792
@Baxter792 Жыл бұрын
I agree with that , sonic adventure is better than Mario 64.
@supersonictrickster4239
@supersonictrickster4239 2 жыл бұрын
I want Adventure now. GIVE ME ADVENTURE.
@BobbyHo2022
@BobbyHo2022 5 ай бұрын
I played Sonic Adventure on dreamcast today on my crt. It was a blast! I appeciated it more than playing my downloaded Sonic Adventure on my ps3. More authentic.
@mikkilewis00
@mikkilewis00 2 жыл бұрын
I'm right with you!!!! I've been a sonic fan all my life, but my mom's more of a Mario fan.(my mom's Actually Mikki.)
@lemonadesnake
@lemonadesnake Жыл бұрын
The homing attack originally comes from Sonic 3D Blast
@Flare8295
@Flare8295 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you think Sonic had a good transition to 3D I think the same I'm truly glad you don't think like the others
@deephover
@deephover 5 ай бұрын
We’re on the same page, dude!
@salty_guz
@salty_guz 2 жыл бұрын
i think mario games are just more challenging than sonic games. like, in sonic they put more in speed than challenge, but with mario its the opposite. so, if u want to challenge urself or suffer a lil, mario is for ya(except mario odyssey, comparing to other mario games its much more casual). but if u came from school, university or watever and just wanna relax a lil and go fast, u can try sonic games. but remember, sonic and mario arent rivals. everyone have their own opinions and arguing about whos better is just stupid, play watever u want, my dudes. Edited: or u can try to play sonic in mario 64 by downloading a rom hack, LMFAO
@artimation4710
@artimation4710 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree games like generations and unleashed are way harder
@charlesbishop3170
@charlesbishop3170 Жыл бұрын
​@artimation4710, especially unleashed.
@DanielAntovski
@DanielAntovski Жыл бұрын
5:36 hmmmm, I have to correct you there friend, sonic adventure came out a year early in japan so sonic adventure released one year after mario 64, anyways great vid, and sonic adventure IS better than mario 64!
@gustavomartins364
@gustavomartins364 Жыл бұрын
The diferent play styles was one of seling points.
THIS is the Sonic 06 of the Mario Series.
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