Super Mario Wonder vs. Sonic Superstars

[@kidwitdakoat8614]

Just beat Superstars and hyped to play Wonder. Nice to see a reviewer that understands the fundamental game design of Mario and Sonic.

[@kidwitdakoat8614]

@@Bombastic_daioh Nah I 100% Wonder. It was a really fun game. The bosses is lacking and some of the repeated levels like; The shadow level and musical levels really lose it’s appeal a third time around. Kinda sucks that I can’t interact with my friends in game tho. Really passive multiplayer. But it was still an overall amazing game. I love collect-ithons. Mario moves like butter. Levels are constantly fun and the art and animation is extremely appealing. The music is god tier as usual. Another amazing Mario game. Can’t wait for more!

[@kidwitdakoat8614]

@@Bombastic_daioh Oh boy, dude, I’m obsessed with Sonic. But I like expanding my taste in other games. There is nothing wrong with liking both products.

[@epochthekid]

​@@Bombastic_daiohAnime pfp. Yup you are delusional

[@kidwitdakoat8614]

@@Bombastic_daioh So my opinion on a game is wrong? Even tho, subjectively, I like Sonic Superstars more but objectively Mario Wonder is the better game? My brother in christ, that’s just silly. I would like to hear what you have to say about Superstars that makes it OBJECTIVELY the better game than Wonder. Cuz I am interested in what you have to say, if this is going to be a discussion and not a straw man argument.

[@kidwitdakoat8614]

@@Bombastic_daioh Alright… You are wrong in many ways. Something tells me you didn’t even play Mario Wonder or watch the KZbin video. And you keep straw-manning Mario (The one thing I didn’t want). Obviously you don’t want to have a discussion, just a one-sided echo chamber. As a Sonic fan, I am upset that fans like you give Sonic such a bad name. You can live in your delusional sonic bubble, Imma do my own thing. Shame too, I really hoped I could meet you half way in this discussion but you never had the intention to have a real conversation about Sonic and Mario game design. What a waste of time.

[@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falcon]

Wonder, and it isn’t even close. Now, if this was Wonder vs. Mania, it’d be a different story.

[@splaturials9156]

Manias sound track is somehow on more crack then mario wonder

[@Bombastic_daioh]

Superstars is better just like every Sonic game but keep coping I guess lol

[@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falcon]

@@Bombastic_daioh Nice bait, child

[@Bombastic_daioh]

@@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falcon Not suprising. Petty insults and defending medicore games is always a must with you Mario and classic Sonic/Mania fanboys so not i'm not suprised anymore.

[@thecoolbroscoolman4672]

@@Bombastic_daiohWhat are you smoking cause’ I want to live in your hypothetical world

[@splaturials9156]

The reason sonic bosses took longer is cause of their 20 years cutscene invurability

[@giganticmoon]

Wonder is obviously better, but both are peak.

[@giganticmoon]

@RealSuperStar_SonicSpeed Nah, uhhh I didn’t say that, Superstars is the best game of all time, dude!

[@blocks4857]

Nah that's a disrespect to both Mario and Sonic

[@Amirisphere]

​@@giganticmoonSuperstars looks like Forces but All 2D.

[@giganticmoon]

@@Amirisphere I was joking with that random Sonic kid.

[@Bombastic_daioh]

No and it will never be.

[@jtrain3656]

I appreciate your positive feedback in video! It's always refreshing to engage with the gaming community and share perspectives on titles like these. The unexpected joy in your response resonates with the intricate nuances of your analysis, highlighting the delightful surprise in my positive stance on both games. It's truly heartening to witness the success of these titles despite their acknowledged imperfections, especially for enthusiasts of both the Mario and Sonic franchises. Your satisfaction with the balanced critique, meticulously weighing the strengths and weaknesses of each game, aligns with my intention to provide a fair and comprehensive comparison. The amalgamation of detailed insights and thoughtful examination aims to contribute to the broader discourse surrounding these gaming experiences. Thank you for recognizing the effort to maintain equilibrium in the evaluation, fostering a sense of appreciation for the diverse qualities each game brings to the table.

[@soulripper31]

Sonic Superstar's multiplayer is literally unplayable lol.

[@Whatag]

On the contrary, Sonic Superstars is much more fun when in with friends I guess you just don't have them lol

[@soulripper31]

@@Whatag Is that why the game bombed in sales?

[@ViltrumiteIsRite99]

@@WhatagWhy are my favorite LPers having shit times with Sonic MP, but people are living it up with Mario? One did it better- A Sonic Fan

[@Anakin_TheChosenOne1]

Only if your partner is slow than you or the reverse. The focus of Sonic is being fast.

[@xliteisaiahhehe]

Yah, how you really gonna blame them for this if this is sonic first multiplayer. Plus, I just have a feeling for liking Sonic superstars more because I can actually enjoy it and see some funny moments while crossing this. And am a Mario and Sonic fan which played both games.

[@whyareyouviewingthis]

Sonic Superstars shouldn't cost more than Frontiers, that's all what I'm gonna say

[@jeremymklinger]

That’s true, would look a lot better at $30-$40

[@winniebae4alwayyz963]

​@@jeremymklinger *Even perhaps lesser than that. Sonic Mania was $20. I admit, I paid full price for Frontiers, but Superstars does not seem worthy of $60.*

[@aaronjones6299]

3:54 I honestly think that was the best part of the badge system I could play my favorite character how I wanted instead of beings stuck with a character I didn’t like or a playstyle I don't like. Making so many playble characters more appealing sense I and my freinds can actually play as our favorites with no downsides.

[@jeremymklinger]

That’s true, I guess it’s a double edged sword, I’d personally prefer having to switch a lot, but I see where you’re coming from

[@blocks4857]

Hot take but i prefer that most characters play similar to each other. Bagdes fixing the issue of your favorite character having no ability

[@jaretco6423]

Still it would've been nice for each character having there own ability rather than feeling similar. Like in Mario 2 USA, 3D World & Run.

[@splaturials9156]

Badges mean you can play who you like and then give them a ability wich I think is actualy better then preset character movement options

[@ghoster12364]

"Throw your brother into a lava pit" hits close to home. We played co-op super mario 3D world.

[@ironroadshadow608]

Sonic superstars was my favourite

[@RunarDjnneSolli-tp2mt]

Me to

[@DBLEGENDSSpeedruns]

I enjoyed Mario wonder more tbh but sonic superstars is still an amazing gAmE

[@trichromatic5717]

Sonic had co-op all the way back since sonic 2 way before super Mario bros. what are you talking about sonic didn’t have co op until now?

[@giganticmoon]

but was the coop good…?

[@trichromatic5717]

@@giganticmoon yeah when I was a kid I would always choose sonic and my brother would choose tails we had fun times and memories I will never forget

[@JKJ44]

That is the worst lie ever. In Mario Bros (not Super Mario Bros), they had two player co-op with Mario and Luigi

[@giganticmoon]

@@trichromatic5717 was tails in the camera…?

[@trichromatic5717]

@@JKJ44 well it’s not a lie too be honest I didn’t play much super Mario back then so I just forgot they had 2 player

[@JakeThehedgehog-m1x]

Both are good games that's my final opinion...i don't do comparison just enjoy both if you want simple as that

[@piranhaplant2555]

With super mario wonder, I personally went through the main game, then went back through as nabbit to 100% and get all the medals

[@Bombastic_daioh]

Sonic is better tho as always lol

[@Amirisphere]

​@@Bombastic_daiohIf it was better, it would've sold better. Simple as that.

[@Bombastic_daioh]

Suuure buddy @@Amirisphere keep on crying harder. Nothing changing lol

[@Storm-ft3hy]

​@@Bombastic_daioh bro sega literally pussied out of making consoles cuz sonic and them couldnt compete with nintendo and mario 💀

[@Bombastic_daioh]

@@Storm-ft3hyAnd that was a good thing since Sonic continued to stomp Mario with his library of bangers even more on a bigger scale so I see this as a absolute win. And besides, a game being exclusive doesn't make it less of a game or less legendary and Sonic's library of bangers proves that espacially in the 2000's.

[@kakhome1]

How'd you think of Superstars (Story Mode)? As a Classic fan I'd like to know if it's worth picking up on a $40 or so sale. (I don't care about Trip Mode, Final, or the Emeralds too much.)

[@jeremymklinger]

$60 was definitely a lot, especially if you don’t care about the extras, but for $40 I think it’s a reasonable deal. Definitely play mania first at $20 if you haven’t though

[@kakhome1]

@@jeremymklinger Oh I got all the $20 gems! Mania, Generations, even the Genesis games as I had them in the Classics Collection *before* they were delisted. (Also they usually go down to $5 during holiday sales)

[@jeremymklinger]

Then yeah, I guess picking up superstars for $40 would be your best move. Especially if you’re a big classic sonic fan, you’ll get your money’s worth

[@Bombastic_daioh]

The 3D games are still better so I would recommend playing those first as they are supperior anyway.

[@dekulinkgamer2789]

I want to say thank you for not treating superstars as the worst game since 06

[@L.T.H.7032]

7:24 "Sonic's very first attempt" *Ahem* Sonic 4 Episode 2

[@allknowing-iu8jt]

I love it when you can tell it's biased from the beginning

[@TheArabConservative]

You nailed this review 👏

[@RayanAhmadzadeh-i9m]

The bosses in mario wonder suck not the final Bowser fight

[@Bloxxer425]

The elephant power up was very advertised heavily

[@KabobyandPACYT]

I 100% agree with everything you said

[@SuperMartinezGamers6.1]

Sonic superstars is better I give this game a 10/10

[@jeremymklinger]

Glad you enjoy the game! I like it too, but Wonder is next level imo

[@TheManBehindTheTaco]

Im a Sonic fan and honestly,yes i prefer Superstars over Wonders but both are peak and even tho i didn't play wonder it looks so great!

[@Might_be_mid]

8:18 holy shit IHY luigi reference

[@mariacendana-paiva2650]

Dude the timed high jump is literally the triple jump

[@hankpeterschmidt8626]

Wonder, even though I now hate singing piranha plants. But everything else in Wonder makes up for it! Sonic on the other hand, Tails’s entire existence brings the series down imo

[@splaturials9156]

The reason mario maker works and sonic maker wouldnt Is cause mario is more fun There I said

[@Bombastic_daioh]

Lmao imagine singing this delusional

[@Punkyyyyy]

Every,body thinks one game it’s more fun than the other, but I see what you mean

[@linkspokemon4114]

The boss fights in superstars are HORRIBLE at least in wonder there quick, while in superstars they take forever and dying to them is frustrating! That's why I prefer wonder!

[@Punkyyyyy]

Skill issue

[@johnnellterrelllyric8166]

I don’t like how long the stages are on sonic superstars and unnecessarily difficult the bosses are!!!!

[@Kylohn]

I love mario wonder but it's local co-op is horrible, most levels, especially when the wonderseed comes in, are ubplayable for the co-op partner the further u go down the game

[@TheBenjaman]

Especially the bits where you have to move fast. The one with the crown typically end up dragging the others behind them lol.

[@pedrobeckup456]

New Super Mario Bros Wii and U are better on this

[@noahconte6544]

Wonder all day HELLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPP!!!!!!!

[@Rellobros]

You know what they say Better games gets all the fame

[@Artistjames2330]

I just beat Mario wonder and I did play sonic superstars but I just could not play it anymore and uninstalled it

[@CodyRyanWaz]

mario wonder is not EASY ONE OF THE HARDEST GAMES I HAVE EVER HAD EXPERIENCE I MEAN I DIE EVEN ON OUTMAWAY VALLEY

[@Punkyyyyy]

Skill issue

[@MarieNyonyo-cg9wu]

Just because you're a mari fan

[@Memestrips1]

no

[@Angry9guy]

I love new super Mario bros 2

[@hipstersephiroth3722]

Thank you being so kind help me and these people to better understand you God Amen

[@LoLRyRyRon]

That fang boss fight was trash and while sonic superstars is a fine game it just doesnt compare to the genesis era games or even mania.

[@aaronatkinson177]

Super mario wonder without a doubt 😊

[@marioecia920]

Super mario wonder's WAY BETTER THAN SONIC SUPERSTARS,NINTENDO IS BETTER THAN SEGA AT MAKING GAMES AND CHARACTERS,WAKE UP

[@pikminguy742]

NOBODY ASKED FOR YOUR OPINION

[@Punkyyyyy]

Of course it’s coming from a Mario pfp, who would’ve guessed

[@fishbowel4601]

so super mario wii U deluxe just doesnt count ok...

[@Bombastic_daioh]

Sonic's library is better anyway lol

[@splaturials9156]

Jumjumpjump isnt hard... how is everyone so bad lmao

[@Ztfpolo2299]

Super Mario Wonder is better =)

[@Nostalgic80s-nd3qb]

I like both games, but Wonder is superior in my opinion.

[@mechajay3358]

Definitely Wonder, Superstars is am ok game, but the con out pros when it come to its gameplay.

[@raziasultana6104]

I hate Mario Sonic superstars better

[@brandonurielsilvaavalos7174]

Confirm everyone think Sonic have epic graphics mais Mario win for the new temátics about the better graphics in the new 5g maybe this is the Game created ever

[@Benjie6424]

as a huge sonic fan, superstars doesnt even come close to mario wonder lol

[@Cupheadsgalaxygoo]

In my opinion SONIC SUPERSTARS IS A MEDIOCRE HOT GARBAGE is just an average sonic game with no new abilities besides the avatar and vine creation gig. Seriously how many times are you gonna bring classic sonic here? its awsome and all but its just sonic mania but a mid 3d remake. on the otherhand MARIO BROS WONDER WAS A BLAST BRO. sorry for all the sonic fans out there

[@Memestrips1]

the chaos emeralds gave new abilities but yeah mario wonder is better, i give superstars a 7/10 but wonder is 9/10

[@JoseGregorioValeroVillarroel]

The answer is obvious! Mario Wonder Is ten times better than Sonic Superstars

[@michaeltefft4620]

Why arent we discussing how shit and uninventive the bosses of mario wonder are. They put all their ideas into the levels and Completely failed the boss fights like everyone is reviewing this game but no one is talking about this completely shit aspect of the game. The levels are phenomenal but bosses fail entirely

[@JoseGregorioValeroVillarroel]

Still better than Sonic Superstars' long, tedious and boring bosses

[@pedrobeckup456]

Yes, Mario Wonder really have a lot of mistakes but in general it is just more fun and creative (well, more fun is personal but creative is a fact)

[@noahthehedgehog17]

First