Should child benefits be extended or scrapped? Feat. Wilfred & Nelufar | Storm Huntley

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@user-Tortured-soul
@user-Tortured-soul 6 ай бұрын
Parents are punished mothers are not allowed to bring up their own children, they are forced to go out to work to hand their children to a childminder and end up with no financial benefit because they have to pay most of their wages to the child minders. Then our children grow up disconnected from their parents and then we wonder why families are falling apart. It’s crazy!
@Jonnyicey
@Jonnyicey 6 ай бұрын
@@OutoftheEchoChamber penalise them all for the 9% of workless families? And out of that 9% how many actually go into work.. probably a lot of them.
@Leon-lt5gv
@Leon-lt5gv 6 ай бұрын
@@OutoftheEchoChamber typical social worker ' full of 💩💩💩 they dont help anyone ' they just try & force parents into doing things only they want ' the poor & social workers are from 2 completly diffrent worlds ' social workers just asume that they know & understand ' when they dont ' social workers do not exactly have a good record ' have a dark past' this is why they are not trusted ' & they only pick on poor families ' thats discrimination ' but so called social workers cant see this ' because they are to busy hiding things under the rug 🤔
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 6 ай бұрын
The less time mothers/parents spend with their children the worse the crime and anti social behaviour appears to be in society. Wilfred seems to think that there is no benefit to society in helping parents to be able to afford to have kids. Doing away with any help for parents will further reduce the birth rate which is already a problematic issue going forward. We need children for our society to thrive.
@Leon-lt5gv
@Leon-lt5gv 6 ай бұрын
Child povety in the uk is at a record high ' its strang how this only seems to happen when the tories are in town ' most couples get into povety because the tories only pick on the poor ' so they csn stigmatize the poor ie blame the poor ' there are to many arrogant people around that are single or havn't lost their jobs ' or have very good jobs ' so this makes it easy to critise the poorest ' its no diffrent than ' well i call it deliberate discrimination 🤔
@teem5642
@teem5642 6 ай бұрын
My thing is, when are parents ever ever going to be held accountable for their very poor family planning skills? Child benefit isn't a right you know. You blame the gvt instead of the parents for bringing kids into the world when they can't afford . That's the problem . I assess a lot of generational benefits users who prefer to stay on benefits than to work, and as much as people hate it and don't want to acknowledge it, 72% of users iv assessed ,it has been a lifestyle choice. Hate it or love it and none of that political correctness bs, it's fact
@Leon-lt5gv
@Leon-lt5gv 6 ай бұрын
@@teem5642 wages are not keeping up with cost ' energy the lot ' you sound like a typical tory ' you just want to blame the poor ' there are plenty of billiairs in the uk that avoid paying tax ' u just dont want to hear it 🤔
@teem5642
@teem5642 6 ай бұрын
@@Leon-lt5gv I blame the ones that don't want to work, not the ones who are but the wages ain't cutting it. I blame the ones that even though they clearly aren't financially stable, they want to keep pumping kids out. Thank god they brought about the two child policy,because the amount of abuse I used to see occur with users with my role was ridiculous and it's fact. It's nothing to do with a political party
@Leon-lt5gv
@Leon-lt5gv 6 ай бұрын
@@teem5642 pumping kids out 😅
@Leon-lt5gv
@Leon-lt5gv 6 ай бұрын
@@teem5642 but to be fair ' alot of families ie mums dads lost their money ie banking crisis ' then the covid ' ie small companies going skint ' it depended ' when i look back ' the banking crisis seems ages ago ' but covid didn't help ' so alot of people couldn't get back to work ie find anything wages wise ' but the tory new like gbnews ' do tend ta exaggerate ' giving people the wrong impression ' but your right ' there are one or two lazy people about ' but their all tared with the same brush 😁
@user-Tortured-soul
@user-Tortured-soul 6 ай бұрын
All our industries have been sold off therefore we don’t have enough well paid jobs for the majority to survive on. We paid our State Pension via National Insurance and taxes. I believe we need a new system where we pay money to the Government over our working life to get a pension that we can pay extra into this will also allow us to be free from the benefit system and then we could decide when we wanted to retire and not have our retirement date determined by the government.
@Jonnyicey
@Jonnyicey 6 ай бұрын
You can pay into a self invested pension plan that you can access 10 years before state retirement age
@meganstewart9062
@meganstewart9062 5 ай бұрын
In most situations people have kids by choice. I have 2 kids and in no way can I afford anymore and people need to except that if you have more than two then what you get is what you get point blank.
@user-sh2rc5kc7x
@user-sh2rc5kc7x 6 ай бұрын
Wilfred has a screw lose. Without children you don’t have a society. These children grow up to support the very structure that we're all reliant on to exist.
@teem5642
@teem5642 6 ай бұрын
So bring more children on benefits?😂 People need to learn to make adult decisions when bringing a child into the system , not use us to help fund their poor thought out decisions to have kids when broke
@Leon-lt5gv
@Leon-lt5gv 6 ай бұрын
@@teem5642 most are broke because of the government ' i know most women & men who live on council astates that work ' tories just give the wrong impression deliberatly ' because they know there are to many stupid people around that believe them ' tories just pick on the poorer ' thats a fact !!
@PLl-jr8xi
@PLl-jr8xi 6 ай бұрын
Storm really thinks shes smart. The delusion of the internet generation is out of control.
@erictaylor2831
@erictaylor2831 6 ай бұрын
Is she Jeremy Vines daughter😅
@PLl-jr8xi
@PLl-jr8xi 6 ай бұрын
@@erictaylor2831 ,😂😂
@user-Tortured-soul
@user-Tortured-soul 6 ай бұрын
Sadly Britain is broke caused mainly by unrestricted migration and the absurd rule that migrants are entitled to benefits healthcare and a home as soon as they set foot in the UK. I am not against giving help, as long as it’s balanced and does not as it has adversely affect our economy and the lives of citizens domicile in the UK. Unfortunately the citizens of the UK are being forced to pay the price of this unrestrained Migration. Through cuts to welfare, benefits for the sick and disabled, Senior citizens State Pensions and now child benefits? It feels like those at the bottom and in most need of help are having to pay the price of Government failures. Slowly but surely this country is becoming more like a third world country. We are becoming a dictatorship. That’s not a fair way to treat people, they didn’t vote this government in to destroy our democracy or our economy. We desperately need a change of government and policies to get this country back on track. There are so many things that have gone wrong ,and that needs to be prioritised. If we don’t get organised as a country and start working together for the benefit of all then we are all doomed. You can’t get blood out of a stone, and we can’t fix the economy by printing anymore money. We all need to wake up to the reality that we are a broken society.
@Leon-lt5gv
@Leon-lt5gv 6 ай бұрын
The DWP expect people who have just been diagnosed with an illness like type 3 ' even though this is making them anxious ie not sleeping worried ' they still force them to go to an appointment ' not giving somone much time to get used to insillin ' ie vision epairment & or that comes with a bad illness ' if they cant go because they are worried sick that somthing might happen to them ' DWP want a sick note ' by the time they see their dr ' they have already been santioned ' ie their benifit stoped ' they blackmail people who have a genuine disability ' they have to be half way into a coffin ' before they write somone off ' its blackmail ' they should give people time to get used to a bad illness that effects their anaxity ' espeacially type 3
@madhattercullen26
@madhattercullen26 5 ай бұрын
I don't think they should scrap the 2 children rule, but they should up the current amount. Parents are having to covering the shortfall on what schools can't afford due to budget cuts, and the rise in cost to food etc. Common sense stills says you help those who generally can't and you make going to work attractive
@KayKLoveHeart
@KayKLoveHeart 6 ай бұрын
Wilfred you are something else...
@PeterFailey-Smith
@PeterFailey-Smith 6 ай бұрын
He certainly is .
@lewishowell307
@lewishowell307 5 ай бұрын
Whether you can say "parents shouldn't have kids they can't afford" is irrelevant. Yes that may be true but at the end of all this are kids who go hungry and live in poverty! Why are we punishing kids for what some deem is the "irresponsibility" of the parents?
@bereal6590
@bereal6590 5 ай бұрын
Exactly also why aren't we working with those families.
@yorewhyworry7217
@yorewhyworry7217 6 ай бұрын
Errrmm there is a conclusion storm....FEED THE CHILDREN!
@Vicks234
@Vicks234 6 ай бұрын
People who come to this country they themselves might not be entitled but when they have children in the U.K. the child who is born here will get child benefit. The child born or not in this country should only be entitled if their parents are legally entitled to life in the U.K. not just to come and breed. Also if you are having children then you should only have them if you can afford them, I personally believe if it’s capped after 2 children then people who sit and breed just to rely on benefits will stop!
@JackieSmith-su3py
@JackieSmith-su3py 6 ай бұрын
It should be for the first 2 children
@Jonnyicey
@Jonnyicey 6 ай бұрын
Why only 2? We allow hundreds of thousands of immigrants to come here each year... We need people so why not support families?
@Jonnyicey
@Jonnyicey 6 ай бұрын
@@OutoftheEchoChamber you keep mentioning that, I am almost 100 % sure I pay more tax than you..
@ricardosmythe2548
@ricardosmythe2548 6 ай бұрын
All western countries have a shrinking fertility rate and aging population. The future economic benefit from encouraging people to have children far outweighs and economic cost today.
@teem5642
@teem5642 6 ай бұрын
What future economic benefit if the ones that then require child benefit will eat intk the systems funds? Population in western countries isn't shrinking too
@Jonnyicey
@Jonnyicey 6 ай бұрын
@@teem5642 if your read it correctly you see he said shrinking fertility rate... Not shrinking population. The only reason the population isn't shrinking is mass immigration and people living longer.
@ricardosmythe2548
@ricardosmythe2548 6 ай бұрын
@@OutoftheEchoChamber I agree in principal but neutering the elites isn't really an option is it. Aging populations in western states is the biggest economic problem our nations will face in the future. The welfare system was brought in by greedy people in an effort to minimise protest as they offshored British industry and jobs. Our problems sit at the feet of one group of people regardless of your delusions
@Jonnyicey
@Jonnyicey 6 ай бұрын
@@OutoftheEchoChamber who is living off the tax payer? You?
@teem5642
@teem5642 6 ай бұрын
@@Jonnyicey mate let's not play naivity here, there's loads of parents who bring their kids to the world with no financial backing or anything , instead basing of benefits. As mentioned in my other comments, I work and see many generational broken families, people pretending not to be well so they can evidence at dwp etc. These things happen, pretending like they don't is very naive and innocent of you. I even known people out of my professional role who do this
@Jonnyicey
@Jonnyicey 6 ай бұрын
Society needs children to continue... It's a right to support the future of our country.
@CherryTree186
@CherryTree186 6 ай бұрын
The future is a mess. Parents don't teach kids any morals. Need more discipline and strict parents
@PLl-jr8xi
@PLl-jr8xi 6 ай бұрын
I don't have kids to make the country work. Sorry to be selfish but my kids are people not robots to help run other people's businesses and make other people money.
@Jonnyicey
@Jonnyicey 6 ай бұрын
@@PLl-jr8xi All I'm saying is we should support families or society doesn't function anymore. Your children can do whatever they want? although you have always had to make a living one way or another
@Jonnyicey
@Jonnyicey 6 ай бұрын
@@CherryTree186 If we don't support families it will just get worse
@PLl-jr8xi
@PLl-jr8xi 6 ай бұрын
@@Jonnyicey totally agree mate. But they don't support families . Giving free money just makes it easier for people to go their own way.. doesn't seem like they want families, just the children so they have workers.
@sushi0408
@sushi0408 6 ай бұрын
Parents are responsibilities for their children.
@geraintjames9785
@geraintjames9785 5 ай бұрын
Wilfred is deluded 🤡🤡
@pagliacci2942
@pagliacci2942 6 ай бұрын
The government should step in when children in are in need with welfare. However, the panel haven't discussed about EVERYONE getting child benefit, even those who earn crazy high salaries. THAT misuse of public money makes no sense to me.
@KayHutchinson-x1i
@KayHutchinson-x1i 6 ай бұрын
Seems to me everyone but that woman agreed seems conclusive to me
@elliotcarnall1150
@elliotcarnall1150 4 ай бұрын
Living in poverty means no employment wtf is he on about yeah poor people "just het a job" from nowhere and wait a month before your even paid but I bet Wilfred would make you work a month in advance what a idiot some of the people they get on this show is beyond crazy
@yorewhyworry7217
@yorewhyworry7217 6 ай бұрын
Well said. People can't have babies if they can't feed and educate them.
@MartinLloyd-w1u
@MartinLloyd-w1u 6 ай бұрын
You want children, pay for them ! Quite simple really
@Jonnyicey
@Jonnyicey 6 ай бұрын
At the end of the day we need people, we don't have enough kids in this country so we have mass immigration instead. I'd choose supporting families over that.
@Jonnyicey
@Jonnyicey 6 ай бұрын
@@OutoftheEchoChamber it's only around 9% of households that are "workless". 89% have a parent working... And even the workless households wheres the study showing the children don't get into work?
@theukeconomist6518
@theukeconomist6518 6 ай бұрын
If you can't afford to have children, then don't have children. Simple.
@Leon-lt5gv
@Leon-lt5gv 6 ай бұрын
Says the single one 😁
@teem5642
@teem5642 6 ай бұрын
​@@Leon-lt5gvit's fact though.glad they put the two child limit. People were taking the piss, bringing children into disfunctional lifestyles with parents using them for benefits
@Leon-lt5gv
@Leon-lt5gv 6 ай бұрын
@@teem5642 theres alot of couples that work who have kids ' but can claim money ie benifits to help ' its not just people on benifits ' its because of low wages ' you will be supprised ' but saying that look at the royals ' they practically live on taxpayers money ' they get the biggest handout of them all ' dont be fooled into thinking we dont pay for harrys security in England 🤑
@Jonnyicey
@Jonnyicey 6 ай бұрын
Do you prefer mass immigration then?
@Leon-lt5gv
@Leon-lt5gv 6 ай бұрын
@@Jonnyicey i dont know why ' somtimes peoples comments are comming to me '
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