I can't stop using Safari on Mac!

[@doobybrother21]

A handy feature in Safari is the ability to pause a video and select and copy text from the video. In full screen there will appear an icon in the bottom right corner that allows you to auto select and extract links phone numbers and other useful info.

[@JerrySchulze]

Great one!

[@lajota-7]

This is so neat! How is this not advertised at all ?

[@doobybrother21]

@@lajota-7 works one pictures also btw. Not only in Safari.

[@eswhite77]

Reader Mode if for no other reason, Reader mode for Safari is a godsend.

[@JerrySchulze]

You know, I use this alll the time on iPhone, not much on desktop. Not sure why.

[@ront335]

I agree. I also set some websites to open all of its articles to open in Reader mode. Works so well.

[@MarlonRaskin-bt2gi]

Agreed!! It's incredible that no other browser even comes close!

[@johnepic2422]

I've started using Arc, I just don't see myself coming back to any other browser. Feels really good!

[@jordiecash]

+1 for Arc. Amazing browser.

[@macbp41]

How's Arc's RAM consumption so far? Does it consume like Chrome? or no?

[@jrgarciab]

I need my BOOKMARKS back. Arc should really fix that. And it's way slower than say, Brave. Bookmarks and speed are missing. But I do really enjoy Arc.

[@bearohan]

they recently had a data breach, good luck

[@jvshva]

@@bearohan No sir, Arc didn't have a data breach. They had a security vulnerability. VERY DIFFERENT than a data breach. It was dumb on Arc's part, yes, but it wasn't a data breach. Google this: CVE-2024-45489 Incident Report

[@bobbyLovesTech]

You’ve kind of made me want to go back to Safari. I use Arc atm and I love it but I might give Safari a go again. I love their built in reader and the MFA/Passkey stuff is definitely amazing.

[@farzadjahanfard]

same here waiting for new macos and will go to sfari

[@bhavacakra0lee484]

Great video. I'm a long time PC guy, started out with MS-DOS (pre Win 95) but, because I like my iPhone so much, I'm converting to Apple enviro. Just received my MacBook pro M4 pro today. I've been using Brave on my Win 10 laptop and iPhone but needed a quick intro to Safari, and you introduced some interesting features of Safari. Now I'm setting out to climb the learning curve. Thanks for the help. Subscribed and liked.

[@RobbieCupples]

Hey Jerry! Just wanted to say that I love your videos! Keep up the great work 😊

[@JerrySchulze]

Hey, thanks so much!

[@RobbieCupples]

@@JerrySchulze you’re very welcome!

[@rbalfanz]

This is just my hunch but-You still have 5gb of memory available without much pressure. It probably doesn’t matter yet if Safari may be using a bit more. If it is using more, it may be a memory-performance trade off that Brave is just balancing differently (eg worse performance when you go back to an older and/or heavier tab).

[@rbalfanz]

For those who don’t watch feature 3, Safari does vertical tabs. Just show the sidebar from the View menu or click the button like Jerry shows. But then, take it a bit further by expanding the tab group using to get the full vertical tab bar experience (I didn’t see those shown in feature 3). Additionally, you can hide the top tab bar with or without the sidebar open to get some additional vertical space back. I like how Orion organizes tabs vertically in a hierarchy. So tabs opened from another tab will be nested/indented, so you can visually make more sense of your mess of tabs, and close subsets that are likely related.

[@JerrySchulze]

Wait you can hide the top tab bar? I don’t think I knew that. If you live verticals tabs then it seems like an option now.

[@rbalfanz]

@@JerrySchulze When in a Tab Group go to View > Always Show Tab Bar to toggle the top horizontal tab bar. Testing to confirm this again now it seems you may only have the view option when in a tab group, unfortunately. So for example, when in a "Personal Window" that option is disabled for me. 😕

[@JerrySchulze]

@@rbalfanz ahhhhh! Thanks for the info though.

[@prof.v7477]

Great video Jerry! I have been using Safari on my iPhone and my Mac and it has been amazing. I’m from Saigon and it was kind of fun to see on your browser tabs that you are looking for accommodation in Saigon. Hope to see you around! ❤

[@yega3k]

My reasons for staying with Safari: 1. Keychain (why isn’t Apple letting other browsers support this?) 2. Share Extensions - I share a lot of stuff from Safari to the Notes app e.t.c (again, Apple doesn’t seem to allow 3rd party browser support) 3. I used to use Chrome but I noticed Google was pushing software updates in the background and none of the instructions to disable it worked so I quit Chrome for good.

[@jimtipton8888]

I mostly use Safari. Once in a while Edge for work related things. One of the features I like in Safari which wasn't mentioned is "add to dock". I use that for KZbin and The Weather Channel. Another informative video, thanks Jerry!

[@JerrySchulze]

I actually did mention that. It’s number 6.

[@Manuel-rl6um]

He mentioned it and as he also said, it's available in other browsers too

[@guipierre3741]

You didn't mention that safari uses much less power on battery 👍🏻

[@TheScentIsOutThere-do8ho]

Hi Jerry, What search engine do you use and recommend? Thank you. -R

[@stevey500]

Appreciate you unbiased view. I also far prefer using safari. It just feels like software actually made to feel nice to use, the overall UI fluidity is fantastic.

[@JerrySchulze]

Thanks for sharing!

[@michaelbabiuk8758]

I agree with all the positive Safari features detailed in this video. My Speedometer 3 test results using the Safari and Brave browsers were 35.5 and 33.5, respectively. My internet download speeds are near 300 Mbps on average. To run those browser tests I used a 14" M3 Pro MBP .

[@ggf7133]

What’s the name of the app you used to view memory usage? That’s way easier to understand than the native Mac app

[@JerrySchulze]

Cleanmymacx, yes it is.

[@ggf7133]

Thanks!

[@NOMQN]

@@JerrySchulze was about to install it until I read several message boards warning it was malware with fake problem alerts...

[@kevinmiles5770]

Hi Jerry, this is the first one of your videos I have watched on KZbin, Safari is my go to daily driver web browser. I did download edge for my Mac only for those one offs that don't work like it should in Safari, but unlike you I don't have a bunch of tabs open if any I may have a total of four. I rarely have an issue in Safari and if a page isn't working like it should in Safari, I will check with edge and 9/10 it will work there. Again very rare. This crap about browser wars is stupid at best, If something works and I am happy with it, It won't matter to me how lightening fast another product may be. Besides, as it was said, if you are not paying for the product. You are the product and since we pay a premium price for Mac's I feel anything we get from Apple that claims to be free is already paid for in the high prices they charge, but with Google and others Na! everyone can have them that's fine as long as we are all happy that all that matters.

[@JerrySchulze]

Great points and thanks so much for watching. To each their own with browsers.

[@latinreuben]

Good intel. Is Firefox any better?

[@JerrySchulze]

I tried it a couple months ago. Nothing made me want to use it.

[@kse-rn6hm]

@@JerrySchulze Ok. I thought privacy setting was better than Safari or Chrome

[@JerrySchulze]

Maybe. Privacy is not my main concern but I appreciate it as long as sites dont break.

[@Claudio7ITA]

Great video, I tested memory and CPU usage, but Safari always consumes less power and memory than Brave. Which search engine do you recommend setting on Safari, to have privacy but also accuracy of results?

[@andreaslassak2111]

keep open safari overnight .. same with brave .. safari will eat double of the memory

[@lawts78]

Good video and I agree with all the frustrating points you make (like tabs being left over kills the page, which I assume is memory thing). The other thing that annoys me is when you have lots of tabs open, you then have to scroll to access tabs the start or end of the bar, and I find that hard to find what you want. I think Chrome deals with that better. I also find Safari can be buggy... sometimes I lose all my tabs for no reason. And I have to re-open them by looking at history.

[@Chesbay53]

Great video, I’m about to set up an iMac M3 and intend to stay with safari. I’ve got Chrome on my old iMac not going with it on new.

[@qwertyzxaszc6323]

My main gripe with Safari, is the overly subtleness between the current open tab and the other tabs. When I am busy I always click and close the wrong tab. Is there a way to make the contrast between open and closed tabs more obvious. Customize the tab colors?

[@Warped9]

I NEVER use Chrome and ALWAYS use Safari.

[@josephfrye7342]

I use edge and safari now

[@XeZrunner]

I agree with all of your points about the performance and stability of Safari. It's often fine, but I do notice the occasional slowness or instability, especially after prolonged usage. On my M1 MacBook Air with 8GB of RAM, Arc Browser (Chromium-based) actually uses so little memory, having tons of KZbin pages open still results in a green memory pressure graph. Chromium's memory saver feature works really well, and Apple should add something like that to Safari as well.

[@JerrySchulze]

I just spent the last week trying to move to another browser. A week wasted I am back on Safari.

[@XeZrunner]

@@JerrySchulze At this point, I use Arc pretty much only for KZbin, Safari for everything else.

[@SridharKatakam]

@@JerrySchulzeTried Arc?

[@nicolasb.henry294]

I am using Safari since a few week and It is slowly become my favourite web browser

[@JerrySchulze]

What features are making it your fav?

[@YTUser-eq2zq]

10:24 you said you had other tab groups on safari, could that be why safari is using 4.5 gigs of ram?

[@JerrySchulze]

Great question but no. I quit both browsers and opened the tab group so only those tabs were running.

[@HarryChaffee]

@@JerrySchulze Are you sure that’s really how it works? Have you tested it? Very curious.

[@JerrySchulze]

@@HarryChaffee yes because looking at activity monitor only the tab group tabs are open.

[@TonyPadgett]

My biggest gripe with Safari is that when you select a folder with bookmarks in the Favorites bar (which drops down all the bookmarks in the folder) and mouse away, the drop down stays. The Favorites bar with folders should respond like the Menus in MacOS.

[@MarlonRaskin-bt2gi]

Completely agree. It is annoying.

[@hanksimon1023]

It looks like I have to pay for iCloud+ to use Hide my email?

[@p.m.8316]

I don't use Safari because the tabs are too small, I can't see my Tradingview prices.

[@TheUberSchattenjager]

I wish Apple would 'acquire' Brave and actually implement their product instead of it killing it. Think Dark Sky becoming Apple weather. I use Brave for most everything, and dust off Safari when I need to purchase something. Seems clunky for the world's largest computer company in the 21st century.

[@royalestatesllc4704]

I agree. I use brave browser because of the web3 extensions

[@igweogba6774]

My main issue is opening a new tab next to the next one. Ad blocking also sucks on safari and that is why I think Safari uses more memory

[@Nppp_10]

For now I only using chrome for website development. I use safari to be my main browser for a couple year and I am very happy with it :)

[@techhubwiltsuk]

I also love Safari and use it all the time. Great video buddy.

[@BrMauricio]

La razón de que tenga Safari más memoria, la encuestas en la barra donde agregaste las páginas como si fueras apps independientes. Lo ideal, hubiera sido reiniciar el Macbook, abrir mismas pestañas y pasado 10 min hacer la prueba

[@Leo_Vulkan]

I had some graphics issues with Safari using my M2 Mac Mini but 'fixed' them switching to the Safari Technology Preview version.

[@PabloPucciOK]

Safari is the best option for a Mac. But there are some cases where are not, and those cases exist because the pages it is not optimized for Safari. The Google Doc example is worst course it is not fully compatible on purpose, for you to use Chrome.

[@Manuel-rl6um]

In my MBA15 M2 512/16GB I got these scores on Speedometer 3.0: - Safari > 31.5 - Firefox > 29.2 - Chrome > 25.9-27.5 - Edge > 25.6-26.5

[@JerrySchulze]

Interesting

[@ffedor77]

Chrome used to be the fastest, what the hell happened

[@Castle_Bravo.]

I had thousands randomized email addresses linked to my primary email. I always forget to delete em until last week. I noticed I am scrolling less now to find that one important email

[@JerrySchulze]

Using hide my email or something else?

[@FoodTechLife]

I probably should give it a go since I run a pihole on my network.

[@aayan_11]

Which theme you use in brave browser in this video ?

[@OthMar39]

I was using Safari as my main browser on iPhone and Mac. But recently I noticed that Safari uses A LOT of Ram without any logical reason… that’s why I moved to Arc browser on both iPhone and Mac, the browser brought some innovative features that help me in my daily life.

[@biprabhanumohanty1823]

At 10:09 , How do you add that memory shown and cleaner option in menu bar ? If you see, please reply asap.

[@JerrySchulze]

Cleanmymac x.

[@TechGently]

I’d like to see safari add a Chrome tab. I work in a PC world as a VAR and need to get certified training, HP, Lenovo, Microsoft etc. It forces me to use Chrome which is a bit of a messy browser. Otherwise I’d use Safari full time. I do like when I can log in on the same sites w my iPhone and IMac.

[@erickdavid4257]

the little monogram you put in the bottom corner of your videos as a logo/watermark is a little weird

[@JerrySchulze]

Thanks. How so?

[@scottd1342]

I had no idea Brave existed until your video. Downloaded it and love it. Perfect timing because the new Chrome look is f**king terrible. I have tried to make Safari work a few times now but I think I will now stick with Brave. It just works better with Gmail, KZbin and Google Docs. Brave definitely feels snappier than Safari.

At 10:15 which app is this one, please? At 12:24 and why not Chrome?

[@JerrySchulze]

Clean my Mac x. I feel brave is a lighter footprint than chrome and its Keystone Service.

[@sohrobby]

Safari is great. I don’t know why more people don’t use it. It’s my default browser.

[@JerrySchulze]

How often do you need a different one?

[@AlexandruHasegan]

Nice but how to translate pages like in Chrome? It works seamlessly with Google Translate extension

[@littlestar5737]

Using Chrome on a Mac is like filling diesel in a Formula One racing car. I don't understand why people don't get a simple fact that Safari is tuned to perfection for MacOS.

[@ArthArmani]

i used chrome and firefox for many years, but chrome ram hungry and not efficient, after getting used to Safari, i never changed to any other browser

[@Romenet310]

I hate the hide my email. I turned it on but I don’t know how to turn it off.

[@JerrySchulze]

Settings>icloud>icloud>hide my email to manage but I think disabling autofill in safari will stop the prompts.

[@Romenet310]

@@JerrySchulze yeah but I don’t want to disable autofill.

[@nout1972]

My experience is different, Safari feels the quickest of all the browsers I have used, a bit faster than Brave and noticeably faster than Arc. And Safari may use a bit more memory than Brave, Brave uses more CPU.

[@zhh174]

Am I the only one who uses edge on mac and find it better suited for most times?

[@chmun77]

1.4GB of swap memory! Wow! How much memory does your computer has?

[@JerrySchulze]

32?

[@JimmieBrown-sg8fq]

I switched to Safari from Chrome for most of my web browsing because most of my devices are Apple based. Use Firefox on Windows machines. Probably a 90/10% split.

[@muntasirmahmudsaif6239]

safari doesn't load google logos in favourite or bookmark bar. that was a deadbreaker for me

[@Travisharger]

I’m 100% safari - reader and reading list are two of the main reasons.

[@MarlonRaskin-bt2gi]

💯

[@eduardolegion_10]

for me it is pretty much cause of tab groups

[@serhgoch]

If your work relies on GSuite Safari just cant’t handle it right: e.g. switching bluetooth channels after one finishes google meet call. The only solution is to restart the browser. And for the memory consumption: sole youtube tab takes about 1Gb in Safari. This is just insane

[@thecrazy9169]

Me watched this video in the Firefox browser and laughed when he started with "Chances are that you are watching this video in the Chrome/ chromium-browser"

[@robertp7917]

90% Safari user, 10 % Chrome user

[@jer4rud0]

I use Orion, best of both worlds 😍

[@m.hreels9822]

I used to use Safari until a couple of years ago. 😕 I never understood why people complained about it so much until it started crashing on me, literally brand new out of the box, whenever I bought a new Mac for some reason. Now, I use Chrome like everybody else. 😅

[@greggh]

Why Brave? And not Chrome? Maybe you said and I missed it.

[@JerrySchulze]

It’s just a lightweight browser I use for like 3 sites. Didn’t want googles keystone updater running.

[@bfuisting]

As always interesting take on the topic but the points your raise against using Safari are major and very annoying. I don't understand why you still recommend it when you say it is slow, using more memory and tabs stop working from time to time?

[@JerrySchulze]

The benefits outweigh the cons for me. For now.

[@TheMetalMag]

I've been using safari since it's first launch as I 'm a mac user since 95. Sadly even though I love it, it lacks of few things. I learnt to use chrome for webdevelopment and never understood why safari was so hard to use for this task and slowly starts to get on to it while Apple always claimed to be on top in this field. The worst with time is Safari as google takes all your memory so it's hard when apple sells computers with 8 g Ram when only browsers need that memory to function!!!

[@gregf9160]

I think Safari _used to_ use less resources than anything else, but not in recent years. Yes, I found Brave much lighter on resources now, also.

[@front243]

I really like its reader mode. It's the best, followed by Firefox's reader mode

[@davidapr]

second that, don’t know about firefox, but for safari reader mode is amazing

[@spacetrucker918]

I use Orion ( it's Safari with Extensions)

[@BigOleHayden]

Okay so Safari , right.. but what search engine FOR Safari ? Anyone ?

[@TheTechNerd-s7g]

I us safari on my Mac because it's the only that scrolls smoothly with pro motion. Everything else feels less smooth. Usually I prefer firefox

[@koenignero]

3:19 I would use it once i figure out how to stop these auto reload of tabs.

[@Azn_Bran]

Watching on Arc.

[@JerrySchulze]

Love it?

[@Azn_Bran]

@@JerrySchulze I do! I must admit I do miss some of the features you mention with Safari but I don't know that I can go back.

[@keithcamilleri1497]

why are you using chapters if you're just numbering them brah

[@Extrey]

Other browsers already have these "features" and much more. I can imagine some person, who is surfing the web only, and doesn't need anything except the default browser, maybe this is the main scenario to use safari, idk. But not in my case, with 3 profiles for different purposes, and 4 devices, that have aboard android, windows, macos, ipados and it all need to be synchronized between each other. I don't even talk about extensions, which are an integral part of the browser's user experience, and you can literally find an extension for any need. Man, you are awesome, thanks for the video, it's very fun, now i must find something similar, reasons why i need to use internet explorer on windows😁😁😁😁

[@JerrySchulze]

Ha!

[@mauricioflores3732]

Nope don’t save password within Keychain. If you forget your password or can’t access to your account for any reason, you’ll lose access to all those accounts. Use an external password manager for that.

[@JerrySchulze]

What if you forget your password to 1password, last password or any other manager?

[@mauricioflores3732]

@@JerrySchulze you actually get an emergency kit with 1Password that has all your information. Just make copies and keep them save.

[@debdootmanna]

Safari doesn't support ublock origin, which is a big disadvantage according to me.

[@panoschargr]

for an odd reason my m2pro Mac mini with 16 gb ram is much better ram optimised when using 15 tabs on chrome rather than safari. For me Safari is taking up to 13 gb ram just for 5 to 6 tabs open ..... what is wrong with apple ....

[@JerrySchulze]

Yep, I am seeing high ram usage for few tabs.

[@whippedculture7633]

Is this true cause i'm using windows in work rn but thinking trying mac mini if the chrome is faster?

[@alphabravo6337]

• Atrocious bookmark management • Useless history (search) • Unreliable tab group sync • The list could go on and on …

[@ramongerix]

does it supports promotion? because i tested mine on testufo and it also shows 60fps unlike in chrome it supports 120fps

[@JerrySchulze]

That’s an interesting one. If you turn on a developer setting it works but last time I did that the setting did not stick.

[@Daniel_Zalman]

So you love Safari for a few conveniences (some of which are available on chromium browsers) it's privacy features (hello Brave browser) but it's a memory hog, it's slow, and has website loading issues

[@JerrySchulze]

Well when you say it like that… 😂

[@Daniel_Zalman]

@@JerrySchulze Yeah, I just found it strange that the positives weren't game changers, but the negatives seemed like deal breakers. I actually don't really experience the issues that you have with Safari, but I'm loving Arc Browser. It's not life changing, but it's made browsing fun again. #MBFA

[@GarryBurgess]

I used to be a browser whore and used them all, but especially Chrome and Brave. But now I use Safari exclusively.

[@JerrySchulze]

In the last few days I have run into more sites that won’t work properly in Safari but some features just have their grip on me.

[@nVG_Tv]

Safari/Orion/Brave 💯

[@extra4542]

Arc browser is the way iykyk

[@JerrySchulze]

I’ve have spent many hours with it. So far not for me.

[@esantos87]

Safari for Apple devices. Edge on Windows PC

[@bqrkhn]

Safari tab groups are useless. They reload when you switch between them.

[@anires1195]

This makes me want to use a Mac.

[@JerrySchulze]

do it!

[@konjecture]

I don’t think anyone ever stopped you from using it.

[@JerrySchulze]

Nope, but there are lots of features and other browsers I would like to use or better performing browsers, but I just don’t feel like I can.

[@whocares961]

your Safari "speed problem" depends on your "private" Surfing... Apple uses it´s own vpn-like-service...and it´s often slow The refreshing problem with your Google-Doc´s is analog to it... greetings from Germany...

[@JerrySchulze]

Thanks for watching! I have iCloud private relay disabled.

[@ItsaB3AR]

I find safari uses less cpu compared to Firefox. (m1 mac)

[@cenkerdurmaz]

I also use safari but all 6 items are available in chrome, too. Using less memory and system resources, yes Safari wins.

[@JerrySchulze]

Hmm, did you see the part about memory usage?

[@cenkerdurmaz]

@@JerrySchulze yes please see my second sentence :) thanks for the video..

[@thorium9190]

Safari just lacks extensions or they cost. Otherwise I’d use it. Safari is by far the most optimised and fastest browser on Mac that I have so far tested.

[@user-vv7ir1pl4j]

how much better then chrome is safari for battery life

[@007.M-D]

0:58 👍

[@garrettbernstein5991]

Another feature - Safari has stabilized, and bouts of freezing or latency that I saw on early on with my Mac Pro 14 M2 are absent - even on the most graphic heavy pages.

[@shuvadiproy5154]

I use safari most of the time😇

[@ghassann.6302]

Safari is the best !!!

[@JerrySchulze]

As always, depends on your needs and how you work.

[@ghassann.6302]

it's my default browser on all my apple machines ! @@JerrySchulze

[@dovber]

eye opening

[@mwwhatever]

I'm trying to give Safari a shot but it's really pissing me off. Scaling on most pages seems to be jacked up, some text is too tiny to read, other items are huge and going off the screen. Some pages don't reload like you said. I'll probably end up going back to Chrome because of this BS. This "Never use font sizes smaller than" feature is practically useless. By the time I scale up the minimum size enough to even be barely legible everything else is totally f*cked on my screen. god this is annoying

[@JerrySchulze]

May not be best for everyone so use what works best for you.

[@generic_official]

facebook doesn't work in Safari

[@JerrySchulze]

Interesting. I don't use FB but I would be surprised that a site that big does not.