Why Everyone Is OBSESSED With Arc Browser

[@enricotartarotti]

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[@Jody-nf2bz]

Nobody Is OBSESSED With any Arc Browser! Are you dreaming?

[@patrickthanus]

Arc is like 1000x better than google chrome, even firefox, and I am a coder, but the only problem is that, since it is new, it bugs and doesnt show webpages that are supported by like chrome on arc

[@louisbourgault]

@@Jody-nf2bz i am lol

[@daelra]

I must work in a totally different tech industry. This is the first time I've heard of Arc. There's a lot of features here that remind me of Edge to be honest.

[@pettycrimesandmisdemeanors]

Well you see it's vewy exclusive club for vewy exclusive nerds. Please don't shove me back into the locker where I rightfully belong

[@3ace846]

the moment split screen came up, i also thought of edge lol

[@kipchickensout]

I've only heard of arc when I researched different kinds of browsers tbh

[@mycelia_ow]

@@pettycrimesandmisdemeanors So it's just like Arch Linux. I guess it's meta to use Arc in Arch, super nerds.

[@Gigusx]

@@mycelia_ow actually they're (by their own admission) very far away from releasing Arc on Linux :D

[@altrogeruvah]

Artificial scarcity as a marketing strategy is as ancient as water, definitely not a secret. Experiencing FOMO over a web browser is goofy as all hell though.

[@The8merp]

Google tried that tactic with it's facebook like social network and look how that went lol

[@mykolaputko]

As a person who uses Arc, I promote it for free because it simply works better than any other software 🙂

[@joekickass8943]

In fairness, Google is cursed...@@The8merp

[@ajtatosmano2]

@classicmax1 no it's not. but in this case it's ridiculous.

[@olwiz]

No it isnt(fomo over a browser). Last 2 years i spent weeks or months with every major browser out there and NONE left me satisfied, even the ones most praised like firefox and brave. I either had problems with rendering or performance of some very used sites or issues with ram, or lack of alternatives for extensions i cant live without or more then a couple (most now chromium based) that for one reason or another broke some extensions for arbitrary reasons... one of the closest to what i wanted was vivaldi but the implementation of its many features made then nearly unusable to me (and one of the worst performances i got)... ffs right now im on Edge, from one of my most hated companies, most invasive out there- but it has 1 feature ive been searching for that no extension so far did proper (collections, on the right side bar, be it links, text or images)... vivaldis equivalent is horrible and takes me longer then using a notes app in paralel and no extensions fill that niche- so even if microsofts implementation leaves me wanting still (they get slow quickly with the amount i capture) i was left out of options- i cant stress enough how much this feature saves me time with all the amount of research i do. And its been the most light ram wise to me too. But i hate having to use it still, i was hoping to just be for awhile as i wait for... can you guess? Guess what other browser have that feature but even better? And im poor, cant afford a mac- arc windows is forever 'upcoming' so.... yeah, im dying of fomo here, over a browser. But i come from a real need and what amount to months of my life of headaches over migrating my data, re-adapting and ditching all other browsers out there. Like Enrico said in the video and arcs ceo constant repeat in their vision for many this is the one software we spend most of our times using. Id argue that for the ones with real needs for what might seem like bells and whistles to average users this one niche supersedes all other software save for the OS.

[@oglothenerd]

It is a proprietary web browser, and it is free. There is no way they aren't taking some sort of user data they can sell!

[@danilol9417]

selling users data is nothing new in the tech industry

[@oglothenerd]

@@danilol9417 Yeah, and it bothers me to no end.

[@social.elenakrittik]

"... everyone is obsessed" i would like to hear who is that "everyone" you're referring to.

[@gravity00x]

nobody.

[@fuqis]

nobody 😂😂 the discord is dead

[@YoghurtEquity]

Upmarket Mac users, darling. If y'all were in these circles you'd also feel "everyone" was using it.

[@_Material_]

popular with mac users.

[@menlo7256]

u just haven't received the invite

[@m.guedes]

This video is more a pitch to BCNY than something that informs me about the psychology of the product. Good to know about it, Arc is in my radar now, but the video does nothing to explain to me why it has been considered better.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

the different GUI is why it is "considered better". My man it's just a web browser, it won't download more RAM for your PC or walk the dog for you

[@enricotartarotti]

It is both in a way. The key takeaway of the psychology of arc is how they reinvented the basics of how a browser work instead of building on top of industry-standard foundations and that's the killer part (plus all the growth stuff like the invite system). For sure I also peppered in some suggestions and things I wish they improve, they are very active on socials and communities so I definitely do hope they see this video! Anyways, thanks for the constructive feedback 🖖🏻

[@Harshsomad]

@@marcogenovesi8570 you're weird , get help

[@duvipearson6251]

LMFAO@@marcogenovesi8570

[@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384]

well only script kiddies and designers are using arc... actual developers still use firefox...

[@armaanii]

Free, but nothing is free. If something is free, chances are you are the product in some way. Even if its not data.

[@codexous]

literally every web browser... what are you trying to say?

[@ベース-l1f]

Have you heard of open source license?

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

​@@ベース-l1f Ah, loicense, the literal pass that prevents anyone without one to use. Artificial scarcity is a value product. Yes, it stifles competition by disallowing the technology to enter into the competitive capitalist market, because those competitors would be monetizing it and actually funding their operations. "Open" stuff is funded by the luxury of people working out of their basements who don't have to worry about banana economy, because all the food in the stores near their basement is secured by exploitation. In "closed' economy all you need is the money to license it. In "open" economy, now were talking going to beg from the creator for a gentleman's promise, that you're in their little club of being ALLOWED to promote them by crediting and promoting them. It's a social credit pyramid scheme, and the MONEY has to come from YOUR pocket because inestors would compromise some vacuous integrity of your anti-capitalist cause.

[@PavelShevchuk]

@@codexous Safari is technically not free because you must buy a piece of hardware to run the app

[@swagmuffin9000]

@@ベース-l1f lol exactly what i was going to say

[@lIlIllIlIllIlllIllIIIIIIIIIlII]

Absolutely no one: arc KZbinrs: wHy EvErYoNe UsEs ArC

[@praveenasaithambi3798]

he clearly said tech savy ppl use arc normie's like u dont

[@RatioV]

​@@praveenasaithambi3798 tbh arc is just another normie chromium based browser sooo.....

[@SuguriTanaka]

@@praveenasaithambi3798 even most of the savvy don't use it anymore, normie's like you might though! which makes it even funnier as he wrote this 10 months ago

[@Pestigirioso]

​​@@praveenasaithambi3798 dafuq? I am quite tech savvy, I work in technology, and never heard of Arc. Sounds like a bs

[@hisham_hm]

Artificial scarcity is a dark pattern.

[@grizeldiSLO]

Feels like a product the mac using hipsters would love, but everyone else would just say "huh, neat." and go back to whatever they were using before.

[@deletedchanneI]

migration curve is really hard

[@za_wavbit]

Mac hipsters don't love it either. It's just pointless random widgets stuck on top of Chrome stealing data, what's the point?

[@deletedchanneI]

@@za_wavbit btw, vertical tabs are so great in arc)

[@The8merp]

@deletechannel vertical tabs exist in every other browser either directly like in Vivaldi or as a plugin like Tree Tabs in FireFox, it's a ancient concept

[@people287]

@@za_wavbit The vertical tabs are great (imo), and the workplace integration is actually a gamechanger for me. Being able to toggle between personal/work1/work2 profiles without having to fumble through a bunch of different windows as with Chrome got me instantly hooked.

[@ltfringr]

5:44 the fact that you didn't even mention Linux says a lot about who this project is actually for

[@trejohnson7677]

? the majority share of the market?

[@ltfringr]

@@trejohnson7677 ...yup. The majority of society that has never even given a second thought to who controls our lives.

[@lintee_12]

i dont get your point... the company doesnt have a linux version like 90% of all software compaines... like genuinley what is your point? it seems like youre just trying to make an excuse to say you use linux.

[@ibnu7942]

firefox is good enough we don't need this "better" browser shenanigans

[@lan_dev]

FVCK Linux bro.

[@روزهالبلد]

I was skeptical about switching from Chrome, but Arc plus Astirna New Tab has really improved my workflow.

[@makiskouloumparitsis9203]

Never heard of this browser ever before

[@_Material_]

its popular with mac lol. Everyone in my friend group (with a mac) uses it.

[@Arufi000]

same

[@Krjollt]

I just found out about it. I use brave I would have tried it out if it has an android version

[@Stevie2049]

Is this an ad? I work in tech and I’ve never heard of this in my life.

[@Baban443]

Same

[@Yuki_blurrr]

It’s famous in the Mac community

[@danilol9417]

yes this video is sponsored

[@ThatWorldWideWeb]

@@danilol9417 i would love to hear your source? i know Arc, but I'm on a PC

[@mack.attack]

Seems like an undisclosed advertisement to me. Vivaldi has had these features for years.

[@punintendedd]

I use vivaldi on windows and it does most of what I like from arc, but it's a lot less clean. It still occupies far too much vertical real estate unless there are some settings I have not yet found.

[@Charlie-xh2nf]

​@@punintendeddhide the address bar? I love how much space you can get in vivaldi

[@me.maeself]

@@punintendedd i customize vivaldi until the browser just consist of strip of tab icon at the left and the address bar that's so small. All the website i use looks like native app in PC now.

[@me.maeself]

good marketing over the ideas that exist for years.

[@innerbloomset]

Exactly. And you can easily customize Vivaldi even more...

[@HowPortal]

Ads getting creative. you dont even know you are watching a ad.

[@munna1337z]

fr

[@etrejosc]

Did I just watch an ad for Arc?

[@realEchoz]

a proprietary browser? what tech industry is this? the cell phone review industry?

[@siliconhawk]

exactly. if i see a proprietary browser i look the other way. no way in hell i am using that. fuk even chromium is open-source. but firefox all the way

[@realEchoz]

@@siliconhawk100%

[@busimo]

@@siliconhawk I absolutely hate the vertical tabs but Arc has a few features that are amazing

[@jaco96]

> new browser!!!! > *look inside* > it's google chrome again

[@kamaravichow]

Cause people like something that works more than new, all extensions are made for chrome so they just used chrome

[@jaco96]

@vichow firefox has just as many if not more extensions 😭 but that's besides the point; the point is: it would be nice if someone for once actually made a browser and not a chrome reskin

[@GoolagThemTube]

@@kamaravichow All really good extensions only works with Firefox. Especially now because of Manifest v3.

[@roberttranceedm]

Having a Blink engine from the Chromium project doesn't equal with being the same browser. People fucking need to understand this one thing!

[@jaco96]

@@roberttranceedm my point still stands: it would be nice if someone for once actually made a new browser and not just a reskin of something else. Using the same 2 engines basically creates a duopoly. Honestly the more engines/browser and the more fragmented the market share is the better!

[@_sayandas]

The vertical tab thing is cool but it takes WAY more space than a single top bar. So small window size for main content.

[@amr1t_]

I think it only works well on pretty high resolution monitors tbh. It feels great on my macbook pro screen but using arc on an external 1080 monitor the sidebar feels huge

[@notbad8170]

Vertical space is much more valuable that horizontal space, so I like them

[@zankfrappa93]

vertical tabs are better if you tend to use more tabs than will fit horizontally. having to scroll up and down to scroll the tabs over and back horizontally is very awkward and some browsers even resize the tabs to the point you can even see the tab text anymore. with vertical tabs you can expand the side bar slightly and have have more tab text showing than you normally would. vertical tabs also allows you make use of nested tabs (see sidebery on firefox) which is great for grouping related tabs. you can usually hide the sidebar with a hotkey which gives you more space when you dont need them. usually horizontal tabs are permanently. most websites still fit just fine for me on a laptop screen even with the sidebar expanded out a bit

[@t3chnicolor]

My tech friend loves it, so I tried it, but I hate vertical tabs. I just can’t get used to them. Also, no arc for windows…I switch platforms multiple times a day. So it was back to Firefox for me.

[@BendyLemmy]

Tried vertical tabs years ago in Firefox, again with Vivaldi, sticking with Firefox now without the vertical tabs.

[@ringguy2420]

you must be very stupid to hate vertical tabs

[@tamalchakraborty5346]

Same here. I wanted to love arc and be the cool guy around. But the performance was just horrible. The fans would spin up most of the time and it was resource hungry. Sticking to Firefox.

[@DaveEtchells]

@@tamalchakraborty5346Ah, important to know that it’s a resource pig. I’ve been using Chrome even though I hate Google and having all my data hoovered up, but use a variety of plugins that I haven’t found on other browsers; it’s plugin ecosystem is huge. That said, it’s also a resource pig and I sometimes have to hunt down pages that are eating loads of CPU. I wish that plug-ins could be universal somehow.

[@tubester358]

I use several browsers, switching from time to time. Vertical tabs is one of the most powerful productivity features IMO and pretty indispensable. Available on Edge and Vivaldi by default. It's great if you always use the browser maximized or full screen. Edge displays them better than Vivaldi IMO. It makes sense coz most sites limit the content of the page to specific widths and the sides of the page remain empty when the window is wide, vert tabs let the content stretch up higher. Responsive sites also handle making the sides narrower better than making the window shorter. Together with a sidebar to pin webapps most browsers can function close to Arc already. I just like the idea of diff work spaces built-in & a more customizable sidebar

[@JessicaFEREM]

let me get this completely clear, nobody is "ditching chrome" in fact arc browser is based on chromium, which is just chrome. ditching chrome for chrome with sprinkles on it.

[@arctic_haze]

You can ditch Chrome if you switch to Firefox. Most of the rest are really Chrome in a disguise.

[@KnightmareUSA]

Thousands of videos such as this one and key developers having the right contacts for magazine and media coverage might be the key to success 🤩 If I must have space I'll just hit F11 for full screen. I keep things basic. The extra features have been around for some time via extensions in other browsers. Vertical bookmarks which most browsers can do may be enough for some too to lessen the space used at the top of a screen. More features incorporated by default is a nice idea, but I think in the long run the browser will be analysed most in relation to security.

[@NKCubed]

I tried to turn firefox into arc and it was an aweful experience

[@Unicarn5279]

You can just use a vertical monitor for more vertical reading space. Vertical bookmarks won't work well with a 9:16 aspect ratio. It's a neat feature, but it's definitely not an attractive one for me since I use a vertical monitor.

[@NKCubed]

@@Unicarn5279 doesn't that make the problem even worse for horozontal tabs? plus there's a keyboard shortcut for hiding/showing the vertical tabs, I feel like they'd work even better with a vertical aspect ratio?

[@NKCubed]

(vertical tabs aren't about getting more vertical space, they're about being able to read more tabs at once instead of having to have another scroll bar at the top of your browser)

[@Unicarn5279]

@@NKCubed No, because then whatever page I am on is obstructed, since most modern web pages are designed for 1080x1920 when you switch to portrait mode. I removed the taskbar from my vertical monitor (I use a vertical taskbar) to avoid this issue, and this browser would re-introduce it. Using Firefox, I have no issues with reading my tabs until I have about 20 tabs open, but once I am at that point I just use the scroll wheel to scroll through them.

[@warpspeedscp]

Yeah I uninstalled when I was presented with a mandatory login screen.

[@techiza652]

What's the logic in this, you do know the site you are on also requires a login, atleast to be able to use the basic features?

[@warpspeedscp]

@@techiza652 sure, but why should a browser need that info right off the bat? I havent seen even a single browser that requires one to log in mandatorily before they are even allowed to use it. So why should I not hold arc to that standard?

[@erik3018]

@@techiza652KZbin is supposed to remember my subs/watch later/history and let me post comments. Arc is supposed to let me browse the web so what do I need an account for?

[@esachs3]

the device you are watching this on requires a sign in

[@warpspeedscp]

@@esachs3 nonit doesnt

[@legalize.brokkoli]

No Windows version, no Linux version, no Android version; but everyone is obsessed with the Arc Browser. Bubble up, folks.

[@ToxiEpic]

there is a windows version of arc and I'm using it rn.

[@legalize.brokkoli]

@@ToxiEpic 5 months ago, when i wrote the comment above, there was no windows version. The one in existence right now is still in beta. But you knew that, right.

[@kawaiidere1023]

@@legalize.brokkoli​​⁠​⁠same. I hope it either comes to android and such or more web browsers incorporate shared browsing options (tried a bunch of browsers, and only Safari and Arc had the ability to share browsing between devices, but Safari isn’t on Windows so I can’t use it for anything serious). Chrome seems like the best option to build it in, but it’s not in IOS yet

[@Booombasstic]

​​@@legalize.brokkoliIt isn't in beta now, its now fully released and freely downloadable app from arc's website for windows 11 They say it doesn't work on windows 10 but matter of fact it works on both windows 10 and 11 flawlessly, cuz I have used it on both But there is one catch, if you download the windows 11 version of arc browser and install in on windows 10 then the app's corners won't be round and they will be straight boxy corners, like any other app on windows 10 So Arc is totally usable on both windows 10 and 11 And, it's just wow!!

[@phr3ui559]

@@legalize.brokkolilol

[@Xtrems]

This browser promotes the kind of web that stands in direct opposition to all of my beliefs of what the web should be.

[@Action2me]

And what are those beliefs?

[@Xtrems]

That the web should consist of many small web pages, primarily built with pure html/css, and have as little web apps as possible, and zero corporate monoliths akin to facebook, twitter, google etc. @@Action2me

[@qwoolrat]

​@@Action2me arc promotes: - corporate web - data-hogging (need an account to use the browser, tabs are archived not closed) - web apps - a closed source ecosystem - growth over profits - artificial scarcity - putting ai unnecessary places??? last 3 are especially suspicious it's made to quickly become an industry standard and eventually make profit with lower expectations, usually by selling data pls beware of any AI startup with multi-million yearly losses

[@nyetu]

@@Action2me everything that is not releated to this 'browser' arc

[@kreatur_]

Keep using Internet Explorer then you oldhead

[@Ludix147]

You missed one thing, the Browser Company is not 100% based in NY, they're very remote aswell

[@Omidion]

"Product Manager in tech", so were you always an manager (like finished a type of management college) or did you "rise" from a Developer position into a Product Manager ?

[@ego-lay_atman-bay]

The funny thing is, many browsers have been putting features from arc into their browsers. For example, brave got a sixebar that allows you to stick bookmarks, tabs, and mote in it, which is pretty much the same as arc. Personally I will never use arc, or any arc features, all because I like having my tabs on the top of my screen. I know they get really squished when I have a bunch of tabs, but I also like having the websites centered, which they wouldn't be if I have a sidebar. I just can never get used to a sidebar in my browser, because I don't want to seel like I'm switching between different files in my code editor. One thing that I think desktop browsers really should have is a way to add scrolling to the tab bar. I mean, code editors that have tabs (vscode) make the tab bar scrollable, so it can show all the title of the tab. Plus, mobile browsers have had that since forever.

[@pitjesgv]

I use my arc Sidebar hidden. I can put my mouse on the left side of my screen to make it appear or press cmd + S. It works the same way as your code editor where you can just scroll through all tabs and you can drag and drop tabs to have them splitscreen

[@ParasAryan]

most of the features are already present in vivaldi long before arc was even a thing.

[@dan-crum]

As someone that's trying out Arc right now, this video is actually making me want to go back to Edge.

[@ReasonX3]

I know I sound like some boring dude on a fun party, but it doesn't look to me like a new standard of browsing the internet or something like that. This is still a Chromium browser under the hood, which means that everything works as usual, because this is how the Web was designed and continue to develop - you need everyone use same standards and don't break anything. Otherwise most websites would require specific browser versions to operate. So called, operational system for the Web means nothing more then visual design of the Arc application. In terms of real OS, like MacOS and Windows, any browser is just another application, which means its functionality is limited and can't expand beyond a set of actions that OS provides and allows to do. As far, as I understand, what Arc tries to do it to blend it's interface with the interface of an OS system it runs on. But this is still a regular application, not an "operational system".

[@staskozak8118]

with Chrome/Edge i get random heating to 80c+ on m1 for no reason (once in 1-2 days), but not in Arc which surprise me. UX feels more unified, every week updates, UI better for me, new features regularly. Yes, you can do a lot in other browsers with apps, but when everything works well out of the box, the experience is much better. Using Arc for a year and will pay $5-10/month for using it in future.

[@rana2hin]

​@@staskozak8118bro, you never heard of Vivaldi Browser?

[@oryanol]

"Everyone?" I never heard about it, and no one talks about it in the tech community 🤷🏿‍♂. Anyway, this browser is super similar to Microsoft EDGE.

[@Rocksteady72a]

Every other year there feels like there's a surge of people *swearing* the next big browser is here. "It must be! Dozens are using it!"

[@swarupbhc]

I'm happy with my old good friend Firefox, it's best for me.

[@rahulreek]

❤

[@azerkdd]

It is funny how tech people adopt ARC which is based on chromium which means you are identifiable. It does not block canvas api it does not prevent any trackers it does not care about privacy or security one bit.

[@modolief]

I tried Arc for a few months and it really didn't do anything special for me. I ended up switching to Brave. I use multiple browsers: Chrome for personal email and KZbin, Brave for work, and Firefox for most everything else. I also occasionally use Safari, Chrome Canary, LibreWolf, and Firefox Developer Edition for specialized scenarios.

[@suicidequad]

lol what

[@chewyro_chewyro]

Just learned about Arc browser recently, and boy am I never going back to Chrome

[@za_wavbit]

Everyone definitely isn't obsessed with this browser. It's like Opera GX - popular with content creators and gamer kids, not at all interesting to anyone who has real work to do, especially people working in tech. Lower market share than Samsung Browser, closed-source in a world of open-source browsers, and it's yet another wrapper on top of V8 + Blink.

[@milovangudelj]

Does anyone remember when they were just starting to put out marketing content? The initial vision was that of a browser that was supposed to be a huge canvas where you could put anything and open website windows all over the place. It was a cool idea, but they must have realised pretty quickly it was kind of an impossible thing to do and switched to something a bit more down to earth.

[@ewerybody]

Dude, 0:05 well I'm also working in tech and in my bubble NOBODY is talking about this!! I just see it every now and then on some tech website and it reeks of hype grind. But I'm curious... Maybe I'm mind blown after this video? I'll let you know :)

[@ewerybody]

OK I'm still underwhelmed.

[@gravity00x]

not surprised @@ewerybody

[@homeorbiter]

pov you're watching an ad without knowing it's an ad

[@joshd108]

Aren’t most browsers free? Opera, chrome, Firefox, edge, safari?

[@HaseebHeaven]

But they sell data aswell

[@cherubin7th]

@@HaseebHeaven Arc is closed source, so they probably sell your data too. If you don't want that use degoogled chromium or Firefox.

[@DipJyotiDeka]

@@HaseebHeaven Pretty sure google can track you no matter which browser you switch to.

[@DePhoegonIsle]

@@HaseebHeaven Ya, but that's the open secret, for however you feel about it. That said though, would you trust a company pushing a product where you spend most your time with, that has no viable way of making money?

[@The9thDoctor]

@@HaseebHeaven And you trust a browse that literally makes you log in to not sell your data? You must be out of your mind

[@DipJyotiDeka]

Artificial scarcity is fine for a hardware product, where scaling is difficult. For a software product, it makes no sense. Not that I would ever touch a browser without extension support.

[@vash47]

"only mac is supported" so by tech people you mean apple drones? yikes

[@ToxiEpic]

There is a version of arc on windows but you need to be in the waitlist

[@ToxiEpic]

As of now I am using arc on windows as it loads sites faster than brave and does not crash like chrome on my windows pc (i3 6th gen, 4 gb ddr4 ram, 512gb hdd and windows 11 pro)

[@Superkuzia15]

as the person above me said, they are working on a windows version (which is invite only for now), but it's pretty close to being fully finished as of writing this

[@typosbro_]

I just got my Arc through Windows waiting list and this is literally the first thing I searched😂

[@DePhoegonIsle]

Ya.... The instinct to not trust what appears to be a trap is flaring up pretty high right now. a NY based 'browser company' that is using a invite system & is building a cult like community, for a browser and in a clip mentions boost for monetization, while also using AI summaries for web pages (which is to say google got flack for topic summarization, and this one is going to cut out the need for going to a site all together). Ya, not only does the 'boosts' as possible monetization bother me, but the fact that AI tooling is baked so deeply into the browser that you'd have to be crazy to not think the tooling set would be able to look sideways and see your history. This is on top of the in group, thing and quite honestly an instant dislike for 'artificial scarcity', as that's only ever done harm to anything that's not a game, and even then, it's a lie in most games. Ya, I don't think another NY startup that's some how 'reinventing' some core thing, and proposing to do it for free with no reasonable map of sustainability is a good thing. Seriously, it's really damn'd easy to just flip that switch, and if I had to be honest I could just default to MS Edge without a second though. Does MS get my data.. ya, but I will never have to worry about MS panicing and suddenly fliping the Product (edge) around trying to make a profit ... off of you searching the web. This will happen, arc will change and I can't think of one valid reason to switch from Edge to arc, and that's assuming I had an invite code right now or immediate access to it. You mean the same tech space that is used to push trends and shape what the narrative is around products?.. Ya this will backfire.

[@eruhinmakhtar9162]

Sorry, I don't think anything can pull me away from Vivaldi. The level of customizability is unparalleled. Plus, mouse gestures are great.

[@gspapp]

it just seems to be another proprietary chromium skin. i don't think it actually has any value.

[@4stringed]

That's basically everything that Vivaldi browser already does...

[@cherubin7th]

I use Firefox. I don't need to be a slave to Google or other stupid corporations. Arc is closed source, the only reason to do this is to get your data.

[@Mirtual]

" I don't need to be a slave to Google or other stupid corporations" that's a really great point that you made in a youtube comment, a service owned by Google. brother google has your data the same way no matter how you live your life, I use firefox too and don't try to pretend like I'm above what google is trying to do.

[@canad3nse]

And plus, you can use CSS themes to make your Firefox look like Arc, Safari, Edge, Chrome or whatever you like

[@flazerflint]

@@Mirtual ppl are hitting new low "brain cells" this days

[@flazerflint]

@@canad3nse the dumbest comment i have seen in a wile long

[@bilboswaggings]

i need both a mobile and a windows version, and bookmark sync between them and having adblock and other addons thanks to firefox is a way better feature set than any other current browser

[@deletedchanneI]

arc doesn’t offer bookmarks at all 😅 use raindrop or something they say

[@bilboswaggings]

@@deletedchanneI that is why I say I use and probably will stick to Firefox

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

I really deeply want two functions out of a mobile browser. Firstly a scroll bar that shows a miniature preview of the ENTIRE page INSIDE the grey area of the scroll bar. And a thumbnail of the visible part outlined as the scroll slider. For comparison see the preview while hovering on the timeline of a KZbin video. Secondly, I want a function to retain that as the only visual of the page, while all the elements and links are made into a text-based summary. So you can have a clear side-by-side view of everything that is clickable on the page. For comparison, imagine if you could just view youube in that preview thumbnail, but the video box would be changed to comments and notes timestamped on the video. In short, reduce EVERYTHING on a page as "do not load images" function, but still have this little thumbnail of everything that would be visible, and visually formatted.

[@deletedchanneI]

@@sboinkthelegday3892 something really special and non-popular

[@_majoneez]

arc does offer bookmarks, bookmark folders, and you can even bookmark two split screen websites as a single bookmark so when you open it, both open (he shows this in the video at 3:31 ). A bookmark folder called “YT” is also shown in that time stamp.

[@sidgillespie5879]

It's proprietary. And you said it's not selling data. If the piece of software is not open source, you cannot know if the thing sells you data. You must know that, especially if you're a tech channel!

[@mohaismad]

People saying they've never heard about it are mostly senior Devs, all youngsters and people in my circle have been glazing Arc since it took off. Of course I gave in to the peer pressure and it's a good browser

[@gullible119]

Arc is the biggest marketing gimmick ever.

[@dave7244]

A lot of these features have been in other browsers at one point in time e.g. Opera did the vertical splits about 20 years ago.

[@Asidders]

Most of that stuff Opera did is in Vivaldi now.

[@MsHojat]

It's just another Chromium browser. None of the features mentioned make for any reason why I would use it. Especially for developers a lot of these sort of customization and features can be done in other browsers if you just put in some basic work. I don't see why most techies would use it over a Firefox variant and/or Brave. Especially when you are forced to create an account just to use it which is super sus (is it really free when they can track you and use your data?)

[@enepon39]

Exactly!

[@jacksonsingleton]

As a "technical" person I used Arc when I first heard about it for about 20 minutes. Leaves a lot to be desired, only people I would consider "tech-adjacent" that are always using some cutting edge alternative hooplah is the exact market that Arc hits upon. I use MacOS, PC and Linux and Arc being on only one of those platforms is an immediate no-go. I'm not going to setup some convoluted keychain system to keep Arc in sync with Chrome/Firefox when those browsers work just as well, if not better, for most developers.

[@darthvader2980]

I tried, and didn't like it. The non negotiable placement of tabs on the left side of the screen alone turned me off. I use Vivaldi now, and like it much better.

[@bugraosmansoysal9118]

"Why Everyone Is OBSESSED With Arc Browser" no we didnt, why i would be obsessed with a toothbrush when you make it easier to handle?

[@Zender-]

Tried Arc for a couple months. It felt a bit... cluncky? Apart from that, its difficult to figure out where exactly stuff is. Like, where are my extentions?

[@Action2me]

Hover on the url bar and click the icon on the right

[@velvetvideo]

I use Vivaldi and Firefox. No intention of leaving any time soon.

[@salamiwasabi21]

vivaldi is great, cant live without panels anymore

[@nocontrol2543]

Not open source, earns it an automatic "I don't care".

[@reduchimaki]

6:46 "called 'the browser company', cool name, btw" my thoughts exactly, simple, but it sounds nice!

[@xtacle1]

I've been using the Vivaldi browser for years now and most of these fancy arc features are not unusual to me at all. So what's the hype all about? I know Vivaldi is a chrome clone, still it's a very powerful and feature rich browser, much like arc.

[@aquaponieee]

arc is also based on chrome i think what makes arc special is its marketing, much like apple

[@aquaponieee]

@cosmikyogi2514 oh, interesting! I wonder if the Windows version will use Chromium instead

[@deletedchanneI]

@cosmikyogi2514arc is using chromium engine underneath

[@toonyandfriends1915]

@cosmikyogi2514 it's based on chromium. The software engine is swift rather than electron. It's still a chromium browser

[@ParasAryan]

@cosmikyogi2514 its based on chromium engine.

[@es4199]

I am surprised you didn't mention a team/business pricing tier. Similar to how slack followed a product led growth plan with invites and spreading in the tech workspace, Arc can also become the defacto collaborative browser that propels teams forward. You can already see how they might be placing the easel feature in the center with collaboration as their strong suite.

[@raphaelcardoso7927]

can't wait for the open source community to learn all the lessons from it and implement a FOSS alternative xD

[@gravity00x]

already partly available "tree-style-tabs"

[@maryhadid]

@@gravity00xsidebery too!

[@Tricks4PK]

After overcoming the familiarity bias I'm pretty happy with arc

[@finitesound]

Arc is just a discount version of the Sidekick Browser. Literally, same thing with less features.

[@joosia7452]

Tried both, now writing this on Arc. It just feels a lot smoother, polished and less cluttered product compared to Sidekick. And ofc it's free, for now at least... But time will tell if I'll go back to Firefox eventually. The learning curve isn't that bad but it's just the rewiring of the damn brain that takes effort, perhaps too much. 😅

[@alxmtncstudio2066]

The "only on invite" was literally how Gmail worked his way in back in early 2000. That's how I got in! Worked like a charm Also, when you described arc at the beginning, you were describing exactly how I wish chrome to behave, so you sold it to me in less than 5min

[@siraaron4462]

Dang, when I saw the thumbnail at the top of my subscription feed I thought it was a browser company video for a sec. 😅

[@paeon]

If the product are free, you are the product...

[@alexanderminev]

It’s sad that I got that invite, but since I wasn’t on Mac I couldn’t get it😢

[@vasanthan485]

yo! I don't have an invite, I don't have a mac either... 😭 BTW how could I get an invite?

[@alexanderminev]

@@vasanthan485 it’s currently open to anyone. Windows is coming in the winter.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

time to buy a Mac

[@vasanthan485]

@@marcogenovesi8570 im broke af

[@dhairyadoshi508]

@@vasanthan485 windows beta sign up has begun, sign up for the waitlist now, got my access today!!

[@DxrrkSide]

most reviewers forget the super power that chrome has even if sometimes it’s laggy on some computer; Eco system, sync…I mean I can install chrome on another machine and all my stuff is there, from bookmarks, extensions I mean…

[@GolgothaBridge]

That's how Opera is for me.

[@jasamkrava]

Below this video youtube recommended me "Arc Browser is a joke" from Chris Titus

[@gravity00x]

the irony of life

[@Action2me]

Lots of comments in here from people who never tried Arc longer than a week. It’s the kind of thing that’s not for everyone but if you like it, you become a raving fan.

[@ericmackrodt9441]

I think the design is beautiful and refreshing. But it's based on Chromium, I can't use chromium. I think it has too many features as well. I just want something that I can type an url and open a site. That's all I need. Also, it's not as good for Web development compared to normal raw browsers, especially if you want to keep your browser very organized. And the fact it's only available on Mac sucks. I can only use it in my work laptop, not on my desktop.

[@kushekpayev]

I know exactly how they gonna make money...they want to create as cool browser as possible, and then Google/Apple/Microsoft make an undeniable offer and acquire them. So they'll got the money, and we'll got all the features of Arc in Chrome but with our data being sold. And that's it. It happens all the time.

[@jfpalomeque]

Was the "Browser for Academic Research" just a joke, or that really exists? Because it would be fascinating to try!

[@hotlinefrenzy]

Not an academic researcher myself but I'd suggest Vivaldi for that... the most customizable and best bookmark management browser by far imo

[@ThePC007]

For me, that's Arc, lol. I'm not willing to switch to it completely since it isn't open source, but it's a great browser for doing research.

[@duvipearson6251]

Yeah...research....yeah lets call it that...@@ThePC007

[@TeleviseGuy]

It's a neat idea, but nothing beats the satisfying smooth dragging of tabs from the very top of the screen that browsers like Chrome, Edge and Brave do, or the ability to middle-click a bookmark to open several copies of it. Either way, I'm waiting for the Windows invite.

[@SupaSupaKewl]

alot of these big features were already innovated by Opera's experimental browser called Neon from about 6 years ago.

[@teklife]

@detective2221 no, wrong, you're the one who sucks

[@teklife]

Opera team has always been the one with the most innovations in browsers. a very very underappreciated browser

[@EaglexEyeGaming]

​​@detective2221Dude every properitory browser is a spy. Its just a matter of who collects your data and where it goes. And opera gx doesnt have a meaning so you can keep those conspiracy theories in your mind. I dont understand how does the random hate for opera and an obsessive relationship with arc keep going

[@ParasAryan]

@detective2221 😭

[@Superkuzia15]

@@teklife you clearly have been living under a rock. because opera is a chinese company, they quite literally HAVE to sell your data. they also used to track your exact location, but they sort of backpaddled on that.

[@DZAladan]

I joined the waitlist time ago when a Windows version was on the way out of curiousity, and gave it a try for a little. I... am not a fan of its minimalist approach, nor of its way to handle tabs, especially when, by default, it decides to "archive" them instead of keeping them. Might be me, since I'd have to "rewire" my brain so that it can appreciate the layout, but quite honestly if I have to spend time having to learn a browser from scratch again when most browser have an established mental model just drove me away pretty harshly. The main issue I personally have with vertical tabs is that yeah, there's more horizontal space than vertical space, that's true, but the thing is that most text is read horizontally, hence this results in (perceived) less space to read text. It would probably work if it's someone's very first experience with a browser or some very edge cases, but for an average user who's already accustomed to their current browser, unless they suddenly find in Arc what they were unconsciously looking for, I really don't see them switching any time soon.

[@sferro21]

Loved the video. Haven’t tried it yet but I previously tried Sigma OS: really enjoyed but it was buggy so went back to chrome. Interesting to see what they come up with with the monetisation process 🎉

[@skyfeelan]

sigmaos is webkit based, while arc is chromium based so it's more stable

[@Bernardoskau]

Why tf would someone name it sigma 💀

[@Eugensson]

​@@skyfeelan Both Chromium's Blink engine and the Apple's WebKit are based on the KHTML engine.

[@XueHuaPiaoPiao69]

Orion is also a nice browser, but it's more of an alternative to Safari than SigmaOS/Arc. Doesn't have a lot of features, but it's so efficient

[@jkozaka]

@@Bernardoskau Sigma is a Greek letter.

[@macbp41]

For those who uses Arc for a long time, how's the RAM usage of the browser?

[@Poosaycvm]

I don't know I went back to chrome 😭😭

[@IveNeverStoodUp]

is this an ad?

[@danilol9417]

yes

[@BNDn-9999]

5:20

[@sarfrazsikandar9588]

Yes

[@Asidders]

I have never heard of Arc and I consider my self tech-savvy

[@tubefaze]

Extensions? Linux support?

[@Chiramisudo]

5:10 I was so frustrated how difficult it was to get my freaking invite for the OPO. It was fantastically cheap though, but they're no longer the "Flagship Killer" they launched as. They totally "settled" and chased the other flagship prices. So I only every owned the OPO and OP5. I'm happy with my Pixel now because it's one of the most common platforms custom ROMs are developed for. I'm the future though I'll probably try an Unplugged phone to get away from Google altogether if they ever create an epic Pixel camera app clone.

[@pettycrimesandmisdemeanors]

Wait it's free, closed-source and allegedly does not make any money? And it's a glorified chrome reskin? Back in the day we used to shout all kinds of slurs at people like this

[@CombatArmsTriiCky]

I'm in tech yet I would not switch to anything from Firefox for my personal browser like ever. Especially browsers with the chromium engine.

[@rintintin_]

AFAIK Arc is built on Chromium Also in tech - skeptically switched over to Arc expecting to turn back in a few days, never looked back

[@darshakparikh5908]

@@rintintin_ Same.

[@diegoberaldin7888]

Maybe it's just me but I had problems having multiple browser windows in multiple screens, moving tabs from a screen to another doesn't always work as one may expect, plus pinned tabs are not the same as bookmarks (in a new window you lose your pins). For me these are two deal breakers...

[@codexous]

I think you need to reinstall and try again because you don't lose your pins in new windows in the current version

[@PavelShevchuk]

Single window apps are the curse of modern desktop. Most modern messenger apps don't have chat undocking feature, so i can't follow multiple channels at once

[@itsbazyli]

They fixed that! Multiple windows now behave much better.

[@chozogoat]

2:09 I'm sorry, what? Sure, things scroll vertically, but vertical tabs take up WAY much more screen real estate than horizontal tabs. I just got started with Arc and I'm hating how I can't customize anything in it.

[@eschatonik]

I love many of Arc's features, but it's that sweet, sweet auto PiP that is keeping me away from Safari, which I am otherwise OK with.

[@deletedchanneI]

I bet Chrome can PiP automatically with small extensions too)

[@staskozak8118]

@@deletedchanneI , and Chrome can randomly heat my m1 to 80C+ for no reason too :)

[@eschatonik]

@@deletedchanneI you would think so, but I have not found one yet.

[@SgtRamen69]

The moment I heard they moved tabs to the side I got convinced already. I do that with my taskbar in Windows too, so good

[@donoteatmikezila]

Isn't Arc tightly married to Kagi search? I think they're made by the same company, and Kagi is a paid product. Arc could drive more users to Kagi. I heard about Arc because I use Kagi, and I imagine a lot of people who learn about and move to Arc will learn about Kagi in turn. Edit: Actually no, the "Kagi browser" is called Orion. Wild that two upstart browsers are essentially trying to fight their way into the mainstream market at the same time.

[@andreas.111]

I haven't heard of Kagi or Orion from using Arc and it doesn't look like their founders or company are related, at least on the surface level

[@donoteatmikezila]

@@andreas.111 Hence the edit to my comment, which was present when you replied.

[@andreas.111]

@@donoteatmikezila i didn't think initially that you were also talking about the entire company within the edit, just the browser👀

[@envynoir]

no, orion is married to kagi.

[@phaberest_]

I have to admit it was super easy for me to switch to Arc from Brave and I totally fell in love with it (especially because its floating windows work over full screen apps, so I can watch youtube or even better see the faces of the people I'm meeting while I'm on my full screen Alacritty or Figma). The only problem I see is that it's a Mac only app and is about to launch on Windows but didn't take linux into consideration, at least not at the moment. This is definitely something I would pay for, btw.

[@turbojojol]

I wanted it to replace Chrome for me, but unfortunately on 13” MBA it’s not convenient to use it with its left pane. My content is never centered so it may make sense on larger screens, but not 13” MacBook 😢

[@_majoneez]

you can hide the left panel so that it’s full screen on the website you’re on, and then if you drag the mouse to the left, the panel appears

[@ghhdgjjfjjggj]

@@_majoneez I still like the top bar better.

[@Erliortmejurur]

@@ghhdgjjfjjggjYou can have top bars and you can hide sidebar with cmd s . Look into the settings.

[@ghhdgjjfjjggj]

@@Erliortmejurur thanks

[@seanivore]

The UI is truly genius. It took less than two days for me to completely ditch Chrome - I even deleted all my Chrome transferred bookmarks so I could start fresh.

[@adityashukla7849]

Honestly, I've been watching few of these features in Microsoft edge for a while now. I don't even like these features in edge itself. Guess I'm growing old now... 👴🏼

[@deletemadog]

Is there any reason for me to create an Arc account just for trying it out?

[@darshakparikh5908]

I was a diehard Firefox user and still use that on Android, but the kind of polish and attention to detail that I find in Arc is something nobody else is doing. Like thing where you hover the Google Calendar and instantly click to join the next meeting, or the quick conversion between folders and spaces. No one talks about these small features, but those are what makes Arc really tick, not the big ones like split view or AI summaries.

[@kodaxmax]

Are you sure those arnt just part of the chromium framework that basically all browsers use?

[@darshakparikh5908]

@@kodaxmax Spaces and Google Calendar mini view are specific to the Arc sidebar. I'm fairly sure nobody else does it.

[@DePhoegonIsle]

.. You want your browser to have instant access to all that data at any given time, just because you signed in to your google/outlook account? pretty sure that Edge & chromium have those abilities (with the exception of them not being accessed all the time by the browser), to just click a thing & go to a zoom metting, with the system launching zoom for you. Also folders to spaces? are you sure you've not sniffed to hard or something, this feels like a redressing of something. Also I'm pretty sure arc is going to have issues with using AI summarizing, once it hits that threshold.

[@darshakparikh5908]

@@DePhoegonIsle These things fit well into my workflow, so I like them. It's the kind of thing you have to experience to really know, so I don't expect to convince you, but no need to be mean.

[@rjbiii]

I tried it, and it's like they set out on a mission to make a browser as overcomplicated as humanly possible.