Why Everyone Is OBSESSED With Arc Browser

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Enrico Tartarotti

Enrico Tartarotti

7 ай бұрын

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🖖 Hey! I'm Enrico and on this channel I go behind the scenes of the design, psychology and stories behind tech and making stuff on the internet. I'm a tech Product Manager, builder of things made of pixels.
Arc Browser has conquered the precious “default browser” setting of thousands of people in the tech scene. Why? In this video I am breaking down Arc browser, its psychology and design that are making people ditch chrome and the genius strategy behind @TheBrowserCompany (the company building Arc).

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@enricotartarotti
@enricotartarotti 19 күн бұрын
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@Jody-nf2bz
@Jody-nf2bz 7 күн бұрын
Nobody Is OBSESSED With any Arc Browser! Are you dreaming?
@daelra
@daelra 7 ай бұрын
I must work in a totally different tech industry. This is the first time I've heard of Arc. There's a lot of features here that remind me of Edge to be honest.
@pettycrimesandmisdemeanors
@pettycrimesandmisdemeanors 6 ай бұрын
Well you see it's vewy exclusive club for vewy exclusive nerds. Please don't shove me back into the locker where I rightfully belong
@3ace846
@3ace846 6 ай бұрын
the moment split screen came up, i also thought of edge lol
@kipchickensout
@kipchickensout 6 ай бұрын
I've only heard of arc when I researched different kinds of browsers tbh
@mycelia_ow
@mycelia_ow 5 ай бұрын
@@pettycrimesandmisdemeanors So it's just like Arch Linux. I guess it's meta to use Arc in Arch, super nerds.
@Gigusx
@Gigusx 5 ай бұрын
@@mycelia_ow actually they're (by their own admission) very far away from releasing Arc on Linux :D
@altrogeruvah
@altrogeruvah 5 ай бұрын
Artificial scarcity as a marketing strategy is as ancient as water, definitely not a secret. Experiencing FOMO over a web browser is goofy as all hell though.
@The8merp
@The8merp 5 ай бұрын
Google tried that tactic with it's facebook like social network and look how that went lol
@mykolaputko
@mykolaputko 4 ай бұрын
As a person who uses Arc, I promote it for free because it simply works better than any other software 🙂
@joekickass8943
@joekickass8943 4 ай бұрын
In fairness, Google is cursed...@@The8merp
@ajtatosmano2
@ajtatosmano2 4 ай бұрын
@classicmax1 no it's not. but in this case it's ridiculous.
@olwiz
@olwiz 4 ай бұрын
No it isnt(fomo over a browser). Last 2 years i spent weeks or months with every major browser out there and NONE left me satisfied, even the ones most praised like firefox and brave. I either had problems with rendering or performance of some very used sites or issues with ram, or lack of alternatives for extensions i cant live without or more then a couple (most now chromium based) that for one reason or another broke some extensions for arbitrary reasons... one of the closest to what i wanted was vivaldi but the implementation of its many features made then nearly unusable to me (and one of the worst performances i got)... ffs right now im on Edge, from one of my most hated companies, most invasive out there- but it has 1 feature ive been searching for that no extension so far did proper (collections, on the right side bar, be it links, text or images)... vivaldis equivalent is horrible and takes me longer then using a notes app in paralel and no extensions fill that niche- so even if microsofts implementation leaves me wanting still (they get slow quickly with the amount i capture) i was left out of options- i cant stress enough how much this feature saves me time with all the amount of research i do. And its been the most light ram wise to me too. But i hate having to use it still, i was hoping to just be for awhile as i wait for... can you guess? Guess what other browser have that feature but even better? And im poor, cant afford a mac- arc windows is forever 'upcoming' so.... yeah, im dying of fomo here, over a browser. But i come from a real need and what amount to months of my life of headaches over migrating my data, re-adapting and ditching all other browsers out there. Like Enrico said in the video and arcs ceo constant repeat in their vision for many this is the one software we spend most of our times using. Id argue that for the ones with real needs for what might seem like bells and whistles to average users this one niche supersedes all other software save for the OS.
@social.elenakrittik
@social.elenakrittik 4 ай бұрын
"... everyone is obsessed" i would like to hear who is that "everyone" you're referring to.
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 4 ай бұрын
nobody.
@fuqis
@fuqis Ай бұрын
nobody 😂😂 the discord is dead
@YoghurtEquity
@YoghurtEquity 24 күн бұрын
Upmarket Mac users, darling. If y'all were in these circles you'd also feel "everyone" was using it.
@lIlIllIlIllIlllIllIIIIIIIIIlII
@lIlIllIlIllIlllIllIIIIIIIIIlII 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely no one: arc KZbinrs: wHy EvErYoNe UsEs ArC
@makiskouloumparitsis9203
@makiskouloumparitsis9203 7 ай бұрын
Never heard of this browser ever before
@hisham_hm
@hisham_hm 6 ай бұрын
Artificial scarcity is a dark pattern.
@m.guedes
@m.guedes 7 ай бұрын
This video is more a pitch to BCNY than something that informs me about the psychology of the product. Good to know about it, Arc is in my radar now, but the video does nothing to explain to me why it has been considered better.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 7 ай бұрын
the different GUI is why it is "considered better". My man it's just a web browser, it won't download more RAM for your PC or walk the dog for you
@enricotartarotti
@enricotartarotti 7 ай бұрын
It is both in a way. The key takeaway of the psychology of arc is how they reinvented the basics of how a browser work instead of building on top of industry-standard foundations and that's the killer part (plus all the growth stuff like the invite system). For sure I also peppered in some suggestions and things I wish they improve, they are very active on socials and communities so I definitely do hope they see this video! Anyways, thanks for the constructive feedback 🖖🏻
@Harshsomad
@Harshsomad 6 ай бұрын
@@marcogenovesi8570 you're weird , get help
@duvipearson6251
@duvipearson6251 5 ай бұрын
LMFAO@@marcogenovesi8570
@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384
@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 5 ай бұрын
well only script kiddies and designers are using arc... actual developers still use firefox...
@Stevie2049
@Stevie2049 5 ай бұрын
Is this an ad? I work in tech and I’ve never heard of this in my life.
@Baban443
@Baban443 3 ай бұрын
Same
@Yuki-HoYo
@Yuki-HoYo Ай бұрын
It’s famous in the Mac community
@danilol9417
@danilol9417 Ай бұрын
yes this video is sponsored
@juann268
@juann268 4 ай бұрын
Imagine ditching Brave for a browser that requires you to create an account just to open it, and that "archives" everything instead of closing or deleting it, and which will definitely "never sell your data" in the future.
@kodaxmax
@kodaxmax 4 ай бұрын
It sounds ridiculous, but this has already become the norm for so many things. Even your printer probably requires a login and companion app etc.. It's insane.
@svgPhoenix
@svgPhoenix 4 ай бұрын
​@kodaxmax which is why I bought a cheapish laserjet from Canon. Plug in to power, sign in to wifi, done. It's made for an office but at least I'm not paying with my soul
@SkyrozzB
@SkyrozzB 3 ай бұрын
I wouldnt necessarily say that brave is a better option knowing what they have done in the past. idk if theres any browser I trust these days
@Gaxi2
@Gaxi2 3 ай бұрын
​@@SkyrozzB What have they done so bad??
@SkyrozzB
@SkyrozzB 3 ай бұрын
@@Gaxi2 for example the affiliate link "scandal" they had some time ago. Also if I remember correclty, braves ceo had to leave mozilla because of his views and I believe he made some comments about covid as well. Brave is by no means a bad browser because of that stuff imo but it's not really better than every other browser either (except maybe chrome)
@Ludix147
@Ludix147 7 ай бұрын
You missed one thing, the Browser Company is not 100% based in NY, they're very remote aswell
@legalize.brokkoli
@legalize.brokkoli 7 ай бұрын
No Windows version, no Linux version, no Android version; but everyone is obsessed with the Arc Browser. Bubble up, folks.
@RationalBeing-rh1zf
@RationalBeing-rh1zf 2 ай бұрын
They also email download link, I mean if it's that private why it wants my email address?
@ToxiEpic
@ToxiEpic Ай бұрын
there is a windows version of arc and I'm using it rn.
@legalize.brokkoli
@legalize.brokkoli Ай бұрын
@@ToxiEpic 5 months ago, when i wrote the comment above, there was no windows version. The one in existence right now is still in beta. But you knew that, right.
@kawaiidere1023
@kawaiidere1023 4 күн бұрын
@@legalize.brokkoli​​⁠​⁠same. I hope it either comes to android and such or more web browsers incorporate shared browsing options (tried a bunch of browsers, and only Safari and Arc had the ability to share browsing between devices, but Safari isn’t on Windows so I can’t use it for anything serious). Chrome seems like the best option to build it in, but it’s not in IOS yet
@Boombastic670
@Boombastic670 3 күн бұрын
​​@@legalize.brokkoliIt isn't in beta now, its now fully released and freely downloadable app from arc's website for windows 11 They say it doesn't work on windows 10 but matter of fact it works on both windows 10 and 11 flawlessly, cuz I have used it on both But there is one catch, if you download the windows 11 version of arc browser and install in on windows 10 then the app's corners won't be round and they will be straight boxy corners, like any other app on windows 10 So Arc is totally usable on both windows 10 and 11 And, it's just wow!!
@warpspeedscp
@warpspeedscp 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I uninstalled when I was presented with a mandatory login screen.
@irtizababar2203
@irtizababar2203 3 ай бұрын
What's the logic in this, you do know the site you are on also requires a login, atleast to be able to use the basic features?
@warpspeedscp
@warpspeedscp 3 ай бұрын
@@irtizababar2203 sure, but why should a browser need that info right off the bat? I havent seen even a single browser that requires one to log in mandatorily before they are even allowed to use it. So why should I not hold arc to that standard?
@erik3018
@erik3018 3 ай бұрын
@@irtizababar2203KZbin is supposed to remember my subs/watch later/history and let me post comments. Arc is supposed to let me browse the web so what do I need an account for?
@esachs3
@esachs3 3 ай бұрын
the device you are watching this on requires a sign in
@warpspeedscp
@warpspeedscp 3 ай бұрын
@@esachs3 nonit doesnt
@IveNeverStoodUp
@IveNeverStoodUp 3 ай бұрын
is this an ad?
@danilol9417
@danilol9417 Ай бұрын
yes
@grizeldiSLO
@grizeldiSLO 7 ай бұрын
Feels like a product the mac using hipsters would love, but everyone else would just say "huh, neat." and go back to whatever they were using before.
@deletedchanneI
@deletedchanneI 6 ай бұрын
migration curve is really hard
@zacanger
@zacanger 6 ай бұрын
Mac hipsters don't love it either. It's just pointless random widgets stuck on top of Chrome stealing data, what's the point?
@deletedchanneI
@deletedchanneI 6 ай бұрын
@@zacanger btw, vertical tabs are so great in arc)
@The8merp
@The8merp 5 ай бұрын
@deletechannel vertical tabs exist in every other browser either directly like in Vivaldi or as a plugin like Tree Tabs in FireFox, it's a ancient concept
@people287
@people287 5 ай бұрын
@@zacanger The vertical tabs are great (imo), and the workplace integration is actually a gamechanger for me. Being able to toggle between personal/work1/work2 profiles without having to fumble through a bunch of different windows as with Chrome got me instantly hooked.
@t3chnicolor
@t3chnicolor 7 ай бұрын
My tech friend loves it, so I tried it, but I hate vertical tabs. I just can’t get used to them. Also, no arc for windows…I switch platforms multiple times a day. So it was back to Firefox for me.
@BendyLemmy
@BendyLemmy 7 ай бұрын
Tried vertical tabs years ago in Firefox, again with Vivaldi, sticking with Firefox now without the vertical tabs.
@ringguy2420
@ringguy2420 6 ай бұрын
you must be very stupid to hate vertical tabs
@tamalchakraborty5346
@tamalchakraborty5346 5 ай бұрын
Same here. I wanted to love arc and be the cool guy around. But the performance was just horrible. The fans would spin up most of the time and it was resource hungry. Sticking to Firefox.
@DaveEtchells
@DaveEtchells 5 ай бұрын
@@tamalchakraborty5346Ah, important to know that it’s a resource pig. I’ve been using Chrome even though I hate Google and having all my data hoovered up, but use a variety of plugins that I haven’t found on other browsers; it’s plugin ecosystem is huge. That said, it’s also a resource pig and I sometimes have to hunt down pages that are eating loads of CPU. I wish that plug-ins could be universal somehow.
@tubester358
@tubester358 5 ай бұрын
I use several browsers, switching from time to time. Vertical tabs is one of the most powerful productivity features IMO and pretty indispensable. Available on Edge and Vivaldi by default. It's great if you always use the browser maximized or full screen. Edge displays them better than Vivaldi IMO. It makes sense coz most sites limit the content of the page to specific widths and the sides of the page remain empty when the window is wide, vert tabs let the content stretch up higher. Responsive sites also handle making the sides narrower better than making the window shorter. Together with a sidebar to pin webapps most browsers can function close to Arc already. I just like the idea of diff work spaces built-in & a more customizable sidebar
@mack.attack
@mack.attack 3 ай бұрын
Seems like an undisclosed advertisement to me. Vivaldi has had these features for years.
@punintendedd
@punintendedd 3 ай бұрын
I use vivaldi on windows and it does most of what I like from arc, but it's a lot less clean. It still occupies far too much vertical real estate unless there are some settings I have not yet found.
@Charlie-xh2nf
@Charlie-xh2nf 3 ай бұрын
​@@punintendeddhide the address bar? I love how much space you can get in vivaldi
@me.maeself
@me.maeself 2 ай бұрын
@@punintendedd i customize vivaldi until the browser just consist of strip of tab icon at the left and the address bar that's so small. All the website i use looks like native app in PC now.
@me.maeself
@me.maeself 2 ай бұрын
good marketing over the ideas that exist for years.
@innerbloomset
@innerbloomset Ай бұрын
Exactly. And you can easily customize Vivaldi even more...
@HowPortal
@HowPortal 7 ай бұрын
Ads getting creative. you dont even know you are watching a ad.
@MrVidification
@MrVidification 7 ай бұрын
Thousands of videos such as this one and key developers having the right contacts for magazine and media coverage might be the key to success 🤩 If I must have space I'll just hit F11 for full screen. I keep things basic. The extra features have been around for some time via extensions in other browsers. Vertical bookmarks which most browsers can do may be enough for some too to lessen the space used at the top of a screen. More features incorporated by default is a nice idea, but I think in the long run the browser will be analysed most in relation to security.
@NKCubed
@NKCubed 5 ай бұрын
I tried to turn firefox into arc and it was an aweful experience
@Unicarn5279
@Unicarn5279 4 ай бұрын
You can just use a vertical monitor for more vertical reading space. Vertical bookmarks won't work well with a 9:16 aspect ratio. It's a neat feature, but it's definitely not an attractive one for me since I use a vertical monitor.
@NKCubed
@NKCubed 4 ай бұрын
@@Unicarn5279 doesn't that make the problem even worse for horozontal tabs? plus there's a keyboard shortcut for hiding/showing the vertical tabs, I feel like they'd work even better with a vertical aspect ratio?
@NKCubed
@NKCubed 4 ай бұрын
(vertical tabs aren't about getting more vertical space, they're about being able to read more tabs at once instead of having to have another scroll bar at the top of your browser)
@Unicarn5279
@Unicarn5279 3 ай бұрын
@@NKCubed No, because then whatever page I am on is obstructed, since most modern web pages are designed for 1080x1920 when you switch to portrait mode. I removed the taskbar from my vertical monitor (I use a vertical taskbar) to avoid this issue, and this browser would re-introduce it. Using Firefox, I have no issues with reading my tabs until I have about 20 tabs open, but once I am at that point I just use the scroll wheel to scroll through them.
@ltfringr
@ltfringr 4 ай бұрын
5:44 the fact that you didn't even mention Linux says a lot about who this project is actually for
@trejohnson7677
@trejohnson7677 3 ай бұрын
? the majority share of the market?
@ltfringr
@ltfringr 3 ай бұрын
@@trejohnson7677 ...yup. The majority of society that has never even given a second thought to who controls our lives.
@lintee_12
@lintee_12 3 ай бұрын
i dont get your point... the company doesnt have a linux version like 90% of all software compaines... like genuinley what is your point? it seems like youre just trying to make an excuse to say you use linux.
@ibnu7942
@ibnu7942 3 ай бұрын
firefox is good enough we don't need this "better" browser shenanigans
@lan_dev
@lan_dev 3 ай бұрын
FVCK Linux bro.
@joshd108
@joshd108 6 ай бұрын
Aren’t most browsers free? Opera, chrome, Firefox, edge, safari?
@HaseebHeaven
@HaseebHeaven 4 ай бұрын
But they sell data aswell
@cherubin7th
@cherubin7th 4 ай бұрын
@@HaseebHeaven Arc is closed source, so they probably sell your data too. If you don't want that use degoogled chromium or Firefox.
@DipJyotiDeka
@DipJyotiDeka 4 ай бұрын
@@HaseebHeaven Pretty sure google can track you no matter which browser you switch to.
@DePhoegonIsle
@DePhoegonIsle 3 ай бұрын
@@HaseebHeaven Ya, but that's the open secret, for however you feel about it. That said though, would you trust a company pushing a product where you spend most your time with, that has no viable way of making money?
@swarupbhc
@swarupbhc 4 ай бұрын
I'm happy with my old good friend Firefox, it's best for me.
@_sayandas
@_sayandas 5 ай бұрын
The vertical tab thing is cool but it takes WAY more space than a single top bar. So small window size for main content.
@detective2221
@detective2221 5 ай бұрын
I cant get used to vertical tabs
@amr1t_
@amr1t_ 4 ай бұрын
I think it only works well on pretty high resolution monitors tbh. It feels great on my macbook pro screen but using arc on an external 1080 monitor the sidebar feels huge
@notbad8170
@notbad8170 Ай бұрын
Vertical space is much more valuable that horizontal space, so I like them
@realEchoz
@realEchoz 4 ай бұрын
a proprietary browser? what tech industry is this? the cell phone review industry?
@siliconhawk9293
@siliconhawk9293 4 ай бұрын
exactly. if i see a proprietary browser i look the other way. no way in hell i am using that. fuk even chromium is open-source. but firefox all the way
@realEchoz
@realEchoz 4 ай бұрын
@@siliconhawk9293100%
@busimo
@busimo 4 ай бұрын
@@siliconhawk9293 I absolutely hate the vertical tabs but Arc has a few features that are amazing
@darthvader2980
@darthvader2980 6 ай бұрын
I tried, and didn't like it. The non negotiable placement of tabs on the left side of the screen alone turned me off. I use Vivaldi now, and like it much better.
@Xtrems
@Xtrems 5 ай бұрын
This browser promotes the kind of web that stands in direct opposition to all of my beliefs of what the web should be.
@Action2me
@Action2me 4 ай бұрын
And what are those beliefs?
@Xtrems
@Xtrems 4 ай бұрын
That the web should consist of many small web pages, primarily built with pure html/css, and have as little web apps as possible, and zero corporate monoliths akin to facebook, twitter, google etc. @@Action2me
@qwoolrat
@qwoolrat 4 ай бұрын
​@@Action2me arc promotes: - corporate web - data-hogging (need an account to use the browser, tabs are archived not closed) - web apps - a closed source ecosystem - growth over profits - artificial scarcity - putting ai unnecessary places??? last 3 are especially suspicious it's made to quickly become an industry standard and eventually make profit with lower expectations, usually by selling data pls beware of any AI startup with multi-million yearly losses
@nyetu
@nyetu 3 ай бұрын
@@Action2me everything that is not releated to this 'browser' arc
@kreatur_
@kreatur_ 3 ай бұрын
Keep using Internet Explorer then you oldhead
@Omidion
@Omidion 4 ай бұрын
"Product Manager in tech", so were you always an manager (like finished a type of management college) or did you "rise" from a Developer position into a Product Manager ?
@sidgillespie5879
@sidgillespie5879 4 ай бұрын
It's proprietary. And you said it's not selling data. If the piece of software is not open source, you cannot know if the thing sells you data. You must know that, especially if you're a tech channel!
@jaco96
@jaco96 3 ай бұрын
> new browser!!!! > *look inside* > it's google chrome again
@kamaravichow
@kamaravichow 3 ай бұрын
Cause people like something that works more than new, all extensions are made for chrome so they just used chrome
@jaco96
@jaco96 3 ай бұрын
@vichow firefox has just as many if not more extensions 😭 but that's besides the point; the point is: it would be nice if someone for once actually made a browser and not a chrome reskin
@GoolagThemTube
@GoolagThemTube 3 ай бұрын
@@kamaravichow All really good extensions only works with Firefox. Especially now because of Manifest v3.
@roberttranceedm
@roberttranceedm 3 ай бұрын
Having a Blink engine from the Chromium project doesn't equal with being the same browser. People fucking need to understand this one thing!
@jaco96
@jaco96 3 ай бұрын
@@roberttranceedm my point still stands: it would be nice if someone for once actually made a new browser and not just a reskin of something else. Using the same 2 engines basically creates a duopoly. Honestly the more engines/browser and the more fragmented the market share is the better!
@dave7244
@dave7244 4 ай бұрын
A lot of these features have been in other browsers at one point in time e.g. Opera did the vertical splits about 20 years ago.
@Asidders
@Asidders 4 ай бұрын
Most of that stuff Opera did is in Vivaldi now.
@velvetvideo
@velvetvideo 5 ай бұрын
I use Vivaldi and Firefox. No intention of leaving any time soon.
@Rocksteady72a
@Rocksteady72a 4 ай бұрын
Every other year there feels like there's a surge of people *swearing* the next big browser is here. "It must be! Dozens are using it!"
@ego-lay_atman-bay
@ego-lay_atman-bay 5 ай бұрын
The funny thing is, many browsers have been putting features from arc into their browsers. For example, brave got a sixebar that allows you to stick bookmarks, tabs, and mote in it, which is pretty much the same as arc. Personally I will never use arc, or any arc features, all because I like having my tabs on the top of my screen. I know they get really squished when I have a bunch of tabs, but I also like having the websites centered, which they wouldn't be if I have a sidebar. I just can never get used to a sidebar in my browser, because I don't want to seel like I'm switching between different files in my code editor. One thing that I think desktop browsers really should have is a way to add scrolling to the tab bar. I mean, code editors that have tabs (vscode) make the tab bar scrollable, so it can show all the title of the tab. Plus, mobile browsers have had that since forever.
@pitjesgv
@pitjesgv 5 ай бұрын
I use my arc Sidebar hidden. I can put my mouse on the left side of my screen to make it appear or press cmd + S. It works the same way as your code editor where you can just scroll through all tabs and you can drag and drop tabs to have them splitscreen
@ParasAryan
@ParasAryan 3 ай бұрын
most of the features are already present in vivaldi long before arc was even a thing.
@jasamkrava
@jasamkrava 4 ай бұрын
Below this video youtube recommended me "Arc Browser is a joke" from Chris Titus
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 4 ай бұрын
the irony of life
@twtwtwtw
@twtwtwtw 4 ай бұрын
I remember doing the vertical tab bar on the side in opera years ago and vivaldi can give you great control over the layout, placement, organization of your tabs and views too.
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 4 ай бұрын
i was confused, like, vivaldi did this for almost a decade now and nobody cared?!??
@DipJyotiDeka
@DipJyotiDeka 4 ай бұрын
Artificial scarcity is fine for a hardware product, where scaling is difficult. For a software product, it makes no sense. Not that I would ever touch a browser without extension support.
@BosonCollider
@BosonCollider 5 ай бұрын
No linux version means it is basically doomed if they want to break into the tech industry
@oryanol
@oryanol 6 ай бұрын
"Everyone?" I never heard about it, and no one talks about it in the tech community 🤷🏿‍♂. Anyway, this browser is super similar to Microsoft EDGE.
@CringePoop
@CringePoop 5 ай бұрын
Vivaldi seems like an actual cult. But unlike Arc, it's much more customizable, available for everything, and doesn't require an invite. The only problem is that it can be buggy sometimes.
@modolief
@modolief 5 ай бұрын
I tried Arc for a few months and it really didn't do anything special for me. I ended up switching to Brave. I use multiple browsers: Chrome for personal email and KZbin, Brave for work, and Firefox for most everything else. I also occasionally use Safari, Chrome Canary, LibreWolf, and Firefox Developer Edition for specialized scenarios.
@4stringed
@4stringed 4 ай бұрын
That's basically everything that Vivaldi browser already does...
@oglothenerd
@oglothenerd 3 ай бұрын
It is a proprietary web browser, and it is free. There is no way they aren't taking some sort of user data they can sell!
@danilol9417
@danilol9417 Ай бұрын
selling users data is nothing new in the tech industry
@oglothenerd
@oglothenerd Ай бұрын
@@danilol9417 Yeah, and it bothers me to no end.
@raphaelcardoso7927
@raphaelcardoso7927 4 ай бұрын
can't wait for the open source community to learn all the lessons from it and implement a FOSS alternative xD
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 4 ай бұрын
already partly available "tree-style-tabs"
@maryhadid
@maryhadid 2 ай бұрын
@@gravity00xsidebery too!
@armaanii
@armaanii 7 ай бұрын
Free, but nothing is free. If something is free, chances are you are the product in some way. Even if its not data.
@CodexBS
@CodexBS 7 ай бұрын
literally every web browser... what are you trying to say?
@user-di8kl4cc5u
@user-di8kl4cc5u 7 ай бұрын
Have you heard of open source license?
@sboinkthelegday3892
@sboinkthelegday3892 6 ай бұрын
​@@user-di8kl4cc5u Ah, loicense, the literal pass that prevents anyone without one to use. Artificial scarcity is a value product. Yes, it stifles competition by disallowing the technology to enter into the competitive capitalist market, because those competitors would be monetizing it and actually funding their operations. "Open" stuff is funded by the luxury of people working out of their basements who don't have to worry about banana economy, because all the food in the stores near their basement is secured by exploitation. In "closed' economy all you need is the money to license it. In "open" economy, now were talking going to beg from the creator for a gentleman's promise, that you're in their little club of being ALLOWED to promote them by crediting and promoting them. It's a social credit pyramid scheme, and the MONEY has to come from YOUR pocket because inestors would compromise some vacuous integrity of your anti-capitalist cause.
@PavelShevchuk
@PavelShevchuk 6 ай бұрын
@@CodexBS Safari is technically not free because you must buy a piece of hardware to run the app
@swagmuffin9000
@swagmuffin9000 6 ай бұрын
@@user-di8kl4cc5u lol exactly what i was going to say
@milovangudelj
@milovangudelj 4 ай бұрын
Does anyone remember when they were just starting to put out marketing content? The initial vision was that of a browser that was supposed to be a huge canvas where you could put anything and open website windows all over the place. It was a cool idea, but they must have realised pretty quickly it was kind of an impossible thing to do and switched to something a bit more down to earth.
@sferro21
@sferro21 7 ай бұрын
Loved the video. Haven’t tried it yet but I previously tried Sigma OS: really enjoyed but it was buggy so went back to chrome. Interesting to see what they come up with with the monetisation process 🎉
@skyfeelan
@skyfeelan 7 ай бұрын
sigmaos is webkit based, while arc is chromium based so it's more stable
@Bernardoskau
@Bernardoskau 6 ай бұрын
Why tf would someone name it sigma 💀
@Eugensson
@Eugensson 5 ай бұрын
​@@skyfeelan Both Chromium's Blink engine and the Apple's WebKit are based on the KHTML engine.
@XueHuaPiaoPiao69
@XueHuaPiaoPiao69 5 ай бұрын
Orion is also a nice browser, but it's more of an alternative to Safari than SigmaOS/Arc. Doesn't have a lot of features, but it's so efficient
@jonasak
@jonasak 5 ай бұрын
@@Bernardoskau Sigma is a Greek letter.
@gullible119
@gullible119 4 ай бұрын
Arc is the biggest marketing gimmick ever.
@tubefaze
@tubefaze 4 ай бұрын
Extensions? Linux support?
@jogoeire
@jogoeire 4 ай бұрын
Really great video. Love the focus on business plan / market fit.
@JessicaFEREM
@JessicaFEREM 5 ай бұрын
let me get this completely clear, nobody is "ditching chrome" in fact arc browser is based on chromium, which is just chrome. ditching chrome for chrome with sprinkles on it.
@arctic_haze
@arctic_haze 5 ай бұрын
You can ditch Chrome if you switch to Firefox. Most of the rest are really Chrome in a disguise.
@siraaron4462
@siraaron4462 7 ай бұрын
Dang, when I saw the thumbnail at the top of my subscription feed I thought it was a browser company video for a sec. 😅
@typosbro_
@typosbro_ 2 ай бұрын
I just got my Arc through Windows waiting list and this is literally the first thing I searched😂
@Zender-
@Zender- 5 ай бұрын
Tried Arc for a couple months. It felt a bit... cluncky? Apart from that, its difficult to figure out where exactly stuff is. Like, where are my extentions?
@Action2me
@Action2me 4 ай бұрын
Hover on the url bar and click the icon on the right
@SgtRamen69
@SgtRamen69 4 ай бұрын
The moment I heard they moved tabs to the side I got convinced already. I do that with my taskbar in Windows too, so good
@shubhamjadhav_7
@shubhamjadhav_7 4 ай бұрын
I still use Mozilla Firefox
@PragandSens
@PragandSens 4 ай бұрын
average mac/iphone user brain
@bilboswaggings
@bilboswaggings 7 ай бұрын
i need both a mobile and a windows version, and bookmark sync between them and having adblock and other addons thanks to firefox is a way better feature set than any other current browser
@deletedchanneI
@deletedchanneI 6 ай бұрын
arc doesn’t offer bookmarks at all 😅 use raindrop or something they say
@bilboswaggings
@bilboswaggings 6 ай бұрын
@@deletedchanneI that is why I say I use and probably will stick to Firefox
@sboinkthelegday3892
@sboinkthelegday3892 6 ай бұрын
I really deeply want two functions out of a mobile browser. Firstly a scroll bar that shows a miniature preview of the ENTIRE page INSIDE the grey area of the scroll bar. And a thumbnail of the visible part outlined as the scroll slider. For comparison see the preview while hovering on the timeline of a KZbin video. Secondly, I want a function to retain that as the only visual of the page, while all the elements and links are made into a text-based summary. So you can have a clear side-by-side view of everything that is clickable on the page. For comparison, imagine if you could just view youube in that preview thumbnail, but the video box would be changed to comments and notes timestamped on the video. In short, reduce EVERYTHING on a page as "do not load images" function, but still have this little thumbnail of everything that would be visible, and visually formatted.
@deletedchanneI
@deletedchanneI 6 ай бұрын
@@sboinkthelegday3892 something really special and non-popular
@_majoneez
@_majoneez 6 ай бұрын
arc does offer bookmarks, bookmark folders, and you can even bookmark two split screen websites as a single bookmark so when you open it, both open (he shows this in the video at 3:31 ). A bookmark folder called “YT” is also shown in that time stamp.
@Tricks4PK
@Tricks4PK 8 сағат бұрын
After overcoming the familiarity bias I'm pretty happy with arc
@ReasonX3
@ReasonX3 6 ай бұрын
I know I sound like some boring dude on a fun party, but it doesn't look to me like a new standard of browsing the internet or something like that. This is still a Chromium browser under the hood, which means that everything works as usual, because this is how the Web was designed and continue to develop - you need everyone use same standards and don't break anything. Otherwise most websites would require specific browser versions to operate. So called, operational system for the Web means nothing more then visual design of the Arc application. In terms of real OS, like MacOS and Windows, any browser is just another application, which means its functionality is limited and can't expand beyond a set of actions that OS provides and allows to do. As far, as I understand, what Arc tries to do it to blend it's interface with the interface of an OS system it runs on. But this is still a regular application, not an "operational system".
@staskozak8118
@staskozak8118 6 ай бұрын
with Chrome/Edge i get random heating to 80c+ on m1 for no reason (once in 1-2 days), but not in Arc which surprise me. UX feels more unified, every week updates, UI better for me, new features regularly. Yes, you can do a lot in other browsers with apps, but when everything works well out of the box, the experience is much better. Using Arc for a year and will pay $5-10/month for using it in future.
@rana2hin
@rana2hin 5 ай бұрын
​@@staskozak8118bro, you never heard of Vivaldi Browser?
@nocontrol2543
@nocontrol2543 5 ай бұрын
Not open source, earns it an automatic "I don't care".
@antnoknee
@antnoknee 7 ай бұрын
Your about to reach 100k!
@mounirb174
@mounirb174 5 ай бұрын
Good intro, good comparative style ! I'm subscribed !
@chewyro_chewyro
@chewyro_chewyro 2 ай бұрын
Just learned about Arc browser recently, and boy am I never going back to Chrome
@MilMike
@MilMike 5 ай бұрын
I have been trying to get arc for months.. I am on the waiting list and until today still.. nothing.
@setaindustries
@setaindustries 3 ай бұрын
I don't get vertical tabs. Text is inherently horizontally aligned, putting them in a vertical config takes up 3 times as much space as a regular tab.
@es4199
@es4199 Ай бұрын
I am surprised you didn't mention a team/business pricing tier. Similar to how slack followed a product led growth plan with invites and spreading in the tech workspace, Arc can also become the defacto collaborative browser that propels teams forward. You can already see how they might be placing the easel feature in the center with collaboration as their strong suite.
@mendown8045
@mendown8045 7 ай бұрын
Wow. Wow. This browser is just wow. It really feels insane on Mac machine. Not sure about the other. Thank you!
@hummmnaotemnome2646
@hummmnaotemnome2646 9 күн бұрын
Now you need to make another video on why people are so angry at people using a different browser, thats finnaly doing stuff diferently
@alexanderminev
@alexanderminev 7 ай бұрын
It’s sad that I got that invite, but since I wasn’t on Mac I couldn’t get it😢
@vasanthan485
@vasanthan485 7 ай бұрын
yo! I don't have an invite, I don't have a mac either... 😭 BTW how could I get an invite?
@alexanderminev
@alexanderminev 7 ай бұрын
@@vasanthan485 it’s currently open to anyone. Windows is coming in the winter.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 7 ай бұрын
time to buy a Mac
@vasanthan485
@vasanthan485 7 ай бұрын
@@marcogenovesi8570 im broke af
@dhairyadoshi508
@dhairyadoshi508 4 ай бұрын
@@vasanthan485 windows beta sign up has begun, sign up for the waitlist now, got my access today!!
@Iainsane
@Iainsane 7 ай бұрын
Think it is only available for Mac OS at present.
@Eysc
@Eysc 3 ай бұрын
name of the font? at 04:20 (Progressive Disclosure)
@diegoberaldin7888
@diegoberaldin7888 7 ай бұрын
Maybe it's just me but I had problems having multiple browser windows in multiple screens, moving tabs from a screen to another doesn't always work as one may expect, plus pinned tabs are not the same as bookmarks (in a new window you lose your pins). For me these are two deal breakers...
@CodexBS
@CodexBS 7 ай бұрын
I think you need to reinstall and try again because you don't lose your pins in new windows in the current version
@PavelShevchuk
@PavelShevchuk 6 ай бұрын
Single window apps are the curse of modern desktop. Most modern messenger apps don't have chat undocking feature, so i can't follow multiple channels at once
@itsbazyli
@itsbazyli 5 ай бұрын
They fixed that! Multiple windows now behave much better.
@azerkdd
@azerkdd 6 күн бұрын
It is funny how tech people adopt ARC which is based on chromium which means you are identifiable. It does not block canvas api it does not prevent any trackers it does not care about privacy or security one bit.
@TheOnlyName
@TheOnlyName 6 ай бұрын
mm I managed to get Arc like a year ago by giving them three of my friend's school emails, only to realize it was for Mac only (for now)
@acrosstundras
@acrosstundras 5 ай бұрын
Vertical tabs don't make sense to me. A tab is like 10% icon, 90% label. And label is horizontal. Screen space is utilized much more efficiently with horizontal tabs.
@someidiotonyoutube
@someidiotonyoutube 8 күн бұрын
As someone that's trying out Arc right now, this video is actually making me want to go back to Edge.
@jfpalomeque
@jfpalomeque 7 ай бұрын
Was the "Browser for Academic Research" just a joke, or that really exists? Because it would be fascinating to try!
@hotlinefrenzy
@hotlinefrenzy 6 ай бұрын
Not an academic researcher myself but I'd suggest Vivaldi for that... the most customizable and best bookmark management browser by far imo
@ThePC007
@ThePC007 5 ай бұрын
For me, that's Arc, lol. I'm not willing to switch to it completely since it isn't open source, but it's a great browser for doing research.
@detective2221
@detective2221 5 ай бұрын
@@ThePC007 I dislike non-open source browsers.
@duvipearson6251
@duvipearson6251 5 ай бұрын
Yeah...research....yeah lets call it that...@@ThePC007
@TeleviseGuy
@TeleviseGuy 3 ай бұрын
It's a neat idea, but nothing beats the satisfying smooth dragging of tabs from the very top of the screen that browsers like Chrome, Edge and Brave do, or the ability to middle-click a bookmark to open several copies of it. Either way, I'm waiting for the Windows invite.
@Anon.G
@Anon.G 7 ай бұрын
This is me but with vivaldi
@turbojojol
@turbojojol 6 ай бұрын
I wanted it to replace Chrome for me, but unfortunately on 13” MBA it’s not convenient to use it with its left pane. My content is never centered so it may make sense on larger screens, but not 13” MacBook 😢
@_majoneez
@_majoneez 6 ай бұрын
you can hide the left panel so that it’s full screen on the website you’re on, and then if you drag the mouse to the left, the panel appears
@ghhdgjjfjjggj
@ghhdgjjfjjggj 5 ай бұрын
@@_majoneez I still like the top bar better.
@Erliortmejurur
@Erliortmejurur 5 ай бұрын
@@ghhdgjjfjjggjYou can have top bars and you can hide sidebar with cmd s . Look into the settings.
@ghhdgjjfjjggj
@ghhdgjjfjjggj 5 ай бұрын
@@Erliortmejurur thanks
@Arsalan_2210
@Arsalan_2210 4 ай бұрын
That Mr. bean finger touch was out of nowhere😂😂😂paired with the windows sound was epic
@vash47
@vash47 7 ай бұрын
"only mac is supported" so by tech people you mean apple drones? yikes
@ToxiEpic
@ToxiEpic Ай бұрын
There is a version of arc on windows but you need to be in the waitlist
@ToxiEpic
@ToxiEpic Ай бұрын
As of now I am using arc on windows as it loads sites faster than brave and does not crash like chrome on my windows pc (i3 6th gen, 4 gb ddr4 ram, 512gb hdd and windows 11 pro)
@Superkuzia15
@Superkuzia15 Ай бұрын
as the person above me said, they are working on a windows version (which is invite only for now), but it's pretty close to being fully finished as of writing this
@xtacle1
@xtacle1 7 ай бұрын
I've been using the Vivaldi browser for years now and most of these fancy arc features are not unusual to me at all. So what's the hype all about? I know Vivaldi is a chrome clone, still it's a very powerful and feature rich browser, much like arc.
@aquaponieee
@aquaponieee 7 ай бұрын
arc is also based on chrome i think what makes arc special is its marketing, much like apple
@cosmikyogi2514
@cosmikyogi2514 6 ай бұрын
@@aquaponieee It's not chrome, it is based on Apple's own Swift which is the base for Safari
@aquaponieee
@aquaponieee 6 ай бұрын
@@cosmikyogi2514 oh, interesting! I wonder if the Windows version will use Chromium instead
@cosmikyogi2514
@cosmikyogi2514 6 ай бұрын
@@aquaponieee Initially, they wanted to do it in C++ but they felt it would be too much work to maintain two different source codes (mac & windows) . They are actually going to use swift itself to do a windows version. That is why it's taking this long..
@deletedchanneI
@deletedchanneI 6 ай бұрын
@@cosmikyogi2514arc is using chromium engine underneath
@wakomikro
@wakomikro 5 ай бұрын
I use and love the built in Samsung browser. I've tried all of them basically. I like some others (really picky) but fine back to this one. It's really good. S10+
@paeon
@paeon 4 ай бұрын
If the product are free, you are the product...
@CombatArmsTriiCky
@CombatArmsTriiCky 5 ай бұрын
I'm in tech yet I would not switch to anything from Firefox for my personal browser like ever. Especially browsers with the chromium engine.
@rintintin_
@rintintin_ 5 ай бұрын
AFAIK Arc is built on Chromium Also in tech - skeptically switched over to Arc expecting to turn back in a few days, never looked back
@darshakparikh5908
@darshakparikh5908 4 ай бұрын
@@rintintin_ Same.
@deletemadog
@deletemadog 21 күн бұрын
Is there any reason for me to create an Arc account just for trying it out?
@ewerybody
@ewerybody 4 ай бұрын
Dude, 0:05 well I'm also working in tech and in my bubble NOBODY is talking about this!! I just see it every now and then on some tech website and it reeks of hype grind. But I'm curious... Maybe I'm mind blown after this video? I'll let you know :)
@ewerybody
@ewerybody 4 ай бұрын
OK I'm still underwhelmed.
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 4 ай бұрын
not surprised @@ewerybody
@vasanthan485
@vasanthan485 7 ай бұрын
I didn't understand the "new affiliate model". Can anyone pls explain that to me?
@TypeSpectrum
@TypeSpectrum 7 ай бұрын
Think of it like the Arc Browser (sort of) having it's own app store. They could have other companies sell their apps there and Arc could take a cut of the profits.
@vasanthan485
@vasanthan485 7 ай бұрын
@@TypeSpectrum oh I got it now. It's similar to having default apps...
@GolgothaBridge
@GolgothaBridge 5 ай бұрын
Can you convience me to switch from Opera?
@teh201d
@teh201d Ай бұрын
I tried the windows beta for a bit. I now use Edge with vertical tabs on.
@eruhinmakhtar9162
@eruhinmakhtar9162 3 ай бұрын
Sorry, I don't think anything can pull me away from Vivaldi. The level of customizability is unparalleled. Plus, mouse gestures are great.
@finitesound
@finitesound 5 ай бұрын
Arc is just a discount version of the Sidekick Browser. Literally, same thing with less features.
@joosia7452
@joosia7452 2 ай бұрын
Tried both, now writing this on Arc. It just feels a lot smoother, polished and less cluttered product compared to Sidekick. And ofc it's free, for now at least... But time will tell if I'll go back to Firefox eventually. The learning curve isn't that bad but it's just the rewiring of the damn brain that takes effort, perhaps too much. 😅
@reduchimaki
@reduchimaki Ай бұрын
6:46 "called 'the browser company', cool name, btw" my thoughts exactly, simple, but it sounds nice!
@teklife
@teklife 5 ай бұрын
Opera 10.10 way back in the day, i think it was around 2009, still had the best features and usability of any browser before or since. it was amazing the amount of shit u could do with that browser. why has no one, including opera, re-implemented to go to the next page when u hit the spacebar at the bottom of a webpage?
@phaberest_
@phaberest_ 2 ай бұрын
I have to admit it was super easy for me to switch to Arc from Brave and I totally fell in love with it (especially because its floating windows work over full screen apps, so I can watch youtube or even better see the faces of the people I'm meeting while I'm on my full screen Alacritty or Figma). The only problem I see is that it's a Mac only app and is about to launch on Windows but didn't take linux into consideration, at least not at the moment. This is definitely something I would pay for, btw.
@dmtr404
@dmtr404 4 ай бұрын
they plan on introducing a freemium subscription model soon, as Slack. so only companies have to pay for extra features.
@DarkChaosMC
@DarkChaosMC 6 ай бұрын
I used to use it, waiting for a windows release
@kushekpayev
@kushekpayev 2 ай бұрын
I know exactly how they gonna make money...they want to create as cool browser as possible, and then Google/Apple/Microsoft make an undeniable offer and acquire them. So they'll got the money, and we'll got all the features of Arc in Chrome but with our data being sold. And that's it. It happens all the time.
@alxmtncstudio2066
@alxmtncstudio2066 3 ай бұрын
The "only on invite" was literally how Gmail worked his way in back in early 2000. That's how I got in! Worked like a charm Also, when you described arc at the beginning, you were describing exactly how I wish chrome to behave, so you sold it to me in less than 5min
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