Fire and Ice - Final Fantasy XVI (Part 7)

[@PsychoCerax]

Of all the reveals in this game, that Clive was a theatre kid is easily top 3 if not my favourite in the entire game. What a wonderful scene.

[@redmaster4446]

i love that scene with Byron, it's both dorky and so wholesome. not ashamed to admit i teared up a bit during it

[@jsmth99]

Byron is amazing. He is the jovial uncle to the trope level, but when compared to the bleakness of the world he is the shining light. "You want to destroy the thing most people find sacred? You became a revolutionary? Bah, who cares! You are my nephew! I believe you implicitly."

[@greysnake2903]

Princess Bride moment

[@DoctorPlato]

God, the voice acting in this game is something else. Everyone does such an amazing job. Can't wait to see you progress further Jesse!

[@celfhelp]

the uncle reunion scene encapsulates everything that makes this game great (aside from spectacle) so much raw humanity earnestly injected into the stories and characters. it's so beautiful. haha

[@HiLoMusic]

They did a great job giving these characters that signature final fantasy charm

[@taddad2641]

one moment he was about to hack em to pieces. the next collapsing from relief and shock.

[@KikoKay-Kay]

Yeah, it still has that Final Fantasy High Emotion Melodrama(tm) going on, but there is always that "stench of humanity" to it. For good or for ill. Its a joy to watch the writing enfold.

[@Maradum]

The whole Uncle Byron scene is so beautiful. Easily one of the most wholesome moments in all of FF. If they take him away from me I am gonna riot. Again.

[@bawlzyreviews465]

When the voice actress for Jill acted with such passion her voice cracked, I just started crying for her. This was the scene where I was 110% like, this woman deserves the world.

[@passdoutcouchpotatos]

Its a shame Jill is relegated to the Sakura Role for the rest of the game

[@travislyonsgary]

Yeah its a shame she gets so little characterization dialogue in most scenes she is in

[@MrGofyaself]

@@passdoutcouchpotatos True, she does literally fall into the role of "Woman grabbed from behind by the upper arm = utterly powerless" trope.

[@NatyaVT]

@@MrGofyaself It's... not really that hard to suspend the disbelief there tbh. First of all it wasn't the upper arm it was the *lower* arm twisted and secured behind her back. That's already a difficult joint lock to deal with in itself but if she'd struggled he would not have hesitated to break her arm and I think she recognized that the moment she tried. Second, the one doing it was fucking *Titan* and Third, she was already pushing herself to be on the battlefield when she *should* have been in the infirmary and would probably struggle to prime even if she wanted to. Fourth, Hugo wouldn't *let* her even if she could, we've seen it done enough to infer that it requires a conscious effort to prime, and that it's not an instantaneous process, and he's hardly going to let her have that time and concentration. No, what I find difficult to accept is that he managed to get her in that position to begin with. Hugo is like 8ft tall and built like a literal mountain, there's no way he could sneak up on them, but he did and that is Clive's fuckup as much as it is Jill's. If anything it's Torgal's mess. The ambushers weren't even in their peripheral vision, even if they probably should've heard them coming they definitely couldn't *see* them. But Torgal if anyone should've *smelled* them and reacted much sooner, because he's a smart hound and he's perfectly capable of acting independently, but he didn't.

[@Yvanne]

Yeah if the dominant of TITAN came up behind me and armlocked me I wouldnt move an inch.

[@AngeloidAstra]

Jesse calling the man the myth the legend Sir Wade coming back was so good lmao. This game does really well with emotional relationships between men, Sir Byron always makes me tear up (and I didn't even realise it was Stephen Critchlow when I was playing!) and the R U OK bit with Blackthorne is so wholesome. Jesse finally found out his valuable items can be traded for gil, man is about to be swimming in orchestrion rolls

[@SurrealNirvana]

2:35:28 Jesse, Those Mythril wristlets had a interesting tidbit of lore about Mythril in this world. Something about it not appearing until the first mother crystal FELL. It reads like it's confirming your theory about the mother crystals origin.

[@LoopStricken]

One of the Mothercrystals was destroyed earlier in the game's history (not the one Clive smashed) so it might mean that fall.

[@SurrealNirvana]

​@@LoopStricken No, that explanation wouldn't really account for the time it would take for a Holy Order to enforce a ban on Mythril, nor does it explain why everyone treats it as a rare yet recognized element instead of something new. Mythril's existence and its rarity seem to be well-known and ingrained in the society, hinting at a much longer history than what a recent fall of a Mothercrystal could provide. It's a curious case indeed, perhaps one that points back to a much older, largely forgotten event in this world's lore.

[@williamchristy9463]

@@SurrealNirvana I think you should re-read the comment he made again. He was talking about one that fell *Before* the events of the game.

[@thalamuszen]

I think Torgal should make all the executive decisions from this point forward.

[@julia-fg6rb]

thank you SO much for these videos Jesse, I can’t afford a PS5 and I’m so thankful I still get to experience this game alongside you. ❤

[@Geallach83]

The Berserker Ring was a game changer for me. It made me more conscious of getting precision dodges because that boost gives you an LB-like boost!

[@vault29a]

Its reduces damage output tho.

[@HappyPotat]

This medicine girl is going to be way more important than she seems with how often she crops up, mark my words.

[@TataruTaru]

Yeah, she’s shown up a few times so far. So she’s probably just disguised as a small girl. She always talks to certain people.

[@wood1066]

Yeah, she gets around more then Clive.

[@cardbutton892]

I've seen the theory she's the un-awakened Dominant of Leviathan the Lost. I totally buy it.

[@worzoth4728]

@@cardbutton892 yeahhh i thought the same =D

[@Gunz12121212]

Gentlemen and ladies, it could theoretically be the year of a million subs. I am so thrilled for Jesse

[@laharlkent]

He has 1 mil now.

[@Enderlinkpawnu]

Come now Jesse we all know the reason Torgal is immune to Aetherfloods is because he's a good boy

[@LouhiIlpotar]

53:30 Oh god, who’s cutting onions? The way he starts to cry as he’s reciting the lines 🤧 How the fuck am I crying over the knee shaking animations in that scene? Help lmao Also huge congrats on 1mil Jesse! Long overdue and much deserved ♥️

[@LouhiIlpotar]

The taxidermy panthers, holy shit. I was so busy crying only caught it after the 10th rewatch of that scene.

[@bicks4436]

"May the blessings of the crystal go with you" is such a hard oneliner I love it

[@hmmurdockofids]

I feel like one of these Black Shield Captains is going to start the "To dwell in darkness" script and then Clive is just going to cut his head off mid-sentence.

[@denn-0h]

Jesse, to train Torgal you either need to issue commands more frequently or use the assistance ring

[@TataruTaru]

Jesse has started to use abilities a bit more often, but I’m mostly here for the ride and his reactions. Keep up the work Jesse. Fingers crossed on 1 million by next part. 0:26:00 - The beach combo looked amazing

[@Demongunner7]

Just writing this here: 6/29/23 at 2:53am PST. We are SO CLOSE to getting Jesse his 1 Million Subs. He's been waiting a long time for this all, let's make it happen!

[@giggabyte6413]

In the world of FF16, is there someone wandering about as the Dominant of the Good King Moggle? 🤔

[@NeroNyte]

COME TO ME, KUPO

[@williamchristy9463]

Now wait just a fucking second. So: We know there are at least eight primals. They are 1.) Phoenix (Joshua) 2.) Garuda (deceased) 3.) Titan (Big guy) 4.) Ramuh (Cidolphus) 5.) Baphomet (Empire guy) 6.) Shiva (Jill) 7.) Oden (guy from the empire across the sea) 8.) I'm pretty sure we've not seen yet, though. It's probably Leviathan, but it could be Good King Moogle mog (Aquatic)

[@ericbright1742]

There are 8, one for each element. Fire (Phoenix) Air (Garuda) Levin (Ramuh) Earth (Titan) Ice (Shiva) Light (Bahamut) Darkness (Odin) Water (???) Ifrit makes 9, two for Fire. The Water one is most likely Leviathan.

[@Shockwave00010]

Also, side note, how do new Dominants come about? We know a new one can't appear until the old one dies... does that mean in the last 5 years, a new dominant of air has been born? Or does the power, kinda like Jill, just awaken in a person at some point after the last one's death? We were never told Jill was a dominant as a kid, so surely no one new she was, so that makes it more likely the power randomly awakens that they are born with it. We also know the Clive's "lovely" mother was obsessed with joshua being a dominant and that is why she cared about him so much and hated clive... what of this new kid she has had?

[@NeroNyte]

@@Shockwave00010 i believe it also says Cid was chosen by Ramuh after he came to these lands, so it's not like Avatar where you have to be born a dominant , rather eikons choose someone at some point, for some reason lol

[@MrDfrose]

This game is TOO GOOD DAMNIT

[@flufflebut8781]

Much appreciated Jesse! I must admit I had started watching another youtuber playing ffxvi, but I got frustrated with how low they put the game sound and how loud they made their own voice. No respect for the awesome voice acting and music in this game, talking over it constantly. I knew you would show the story the respect it deserves, you glorious lore nerd. ❤

[@alexdavies6469]

This game has easily become game of the year for me.

[@calvinheslop2585]

I love how Jesse treats the hideouts bard like the bard from the Astrix comics😂🤣

[@25Dzone]

Welp... I was planning to watch the previous part today too, I guess I'm not sleeping. I'm not even mad. Thank you Jesse!! I do have one request, once you're all done with the game could you please upload a video about your thoughts on it? I always enjoy listening to your FF takes / takes at the end of the playthroughs as credits roll but I wish they were their own video!

[@The_Erlking]

Clive's mom makes Jenova look like mother of the year

[@waffleboy159]

Jesse really has it out for those Bluebirds... Also, what happened at the beginning of the episode isn't technically executive disfunction, but it certainly can be called *executive disfunction*.

[@Froakadoke]

I keep coming back to 3:08:24 The mothercrystal showering everyone in crystal that looks like beautiful snow. Clive quietly shouting out Cid and his dream. Jill freeing herself from her past. It's all beautiful to me

[@rhyspieces99]

jesse, your playthrough has inspired me to do something crazy and impulsive, so i ended up buying a ps5 as well as this game because i’m absolutely adoring it so far. i haven’t watched your content in a while, but it’s really nice getting back into the habit of it. i look forward to new uploads for this playthrough daily, and i get so immersed in your playthrough i nearly forget to clock back in to work after having lunch. keep doing what you do. much love, from a fellow jesse. ❤

[@jt1973]

Jill won this scene so hard, I only wish that the fight had been us playing as Shiva instead of Clive on the ground.

[@LeoDominius]

1:32:01 😂😂 @“STOOOOP” I felt the same running back and forth between the Caer Norvent gates for 20 minutes

[@OneGamer2EnvyThemAll]

Once again repeating from last video: In the Abilities menu, Jesse should press Triangle for Details so he gets an in-depth understanding of what Mastery does and other applications for his abilities.

[@WeMissDimebag]

Seconding this because I also did not know this existed for like the first 18 hours of my playthrough

[@vVAstrAVv]

Hear hear!

[@prairietan]

The story has been amazing. Thanks for playing this. I love you. YEAR OF THE COX!

[@Toffeehammer]

I love that all these horrific, awful things keep happening in this region and yet the cheerful FF village music is still playing.

[@elfaroncarnot]

38:48 The wheeze at the elixir's cost LOL. The feeling is mutual.

[@cyradus]

The scene at 3:07:59 When Clive is ascending the stairs with the ice sword out is so goddamn iconic, I remember getting overcome with chills....then the slow FF prelude with the "are you watching Cid?" was so emotional for me. I lost it.

[@matthewprosa8627]

59:35 and at this point I really hope the uncle doesn't end up dying. They set him up to be such an amazing guy that I think he doesn't have much more time in this story playing out.

[@Nedread]

That little tune that's playing ~56:08 is SO nostalgic. It sounds exactly like something they would have used in FF7, 8 or 9.

[@kurojima]

really hoping for a full lets play, would love to see your reaction/hear your comments on the story progression!

[@thenarwhalz2585]

Loving this game and I am loving your playthrough this the story is great and to have such a great tuber playing it is great much love and happy adventuring.

[@CastorGaming]

How did it only just occur to me that the name of the bard in Hideaway is "Lukahn"? That's a reference to the first Final Fantasy. Lukahn was the name of the sage that originally foretold the prophecy of the Light Warriors, coming to relight the orbs.

[@SurrealNirvana]

I hope this series doesn't get left behind

[@TataruTaru]

Mega glad to see Wade again! Wade badge Obtained!

[@waffleboy159]

I hope Jesse's reading the lore tidbits on the equipment. Those mythril bracelets had some pretty spicy implications.

[@spookychris]

Use your abilities more Jesse. You don't need to just save them when the enemy is staggered. You're basically just using Jolt as a Red Mage in FFXIV while sitting on all your other abilities for majority of your fights.

[@LoopStricken]

Me wondering when Jesse will realise it's the berserker ring that changed the dodges. Jesse doing it about twenty seconds later.

[@Sith9890]

for some reason I'm really impressed by the sweat effect in the volcano. A tiny detail probably but one that caught my eye

[@barachiel212]

Damn, I'm neck and neck with Jesse (at least as far as YT goes). I need to play more so i can watch as the vids go live without risking spoilers. =D Also, that Byron scene was amazing! RIP to his VA, who also voiced Edmund Fortemps in Heavensward.

[@TreeFolkDruid]

1 mil subs! gratz Jesse!

[@karmasweapon2861]

2:58:20 I haven't played previous FF games, and nothing so far stood out to me as 'the line', so whenever he is looking for Clive to say 'the line' I imagine something cheesy like 'FLAME ON!!!!' 😆

[@howardhavardramberg333]

This game is unbelievably good. It's blowing me away and I'm so pleasantly surprised!

[@lunarhoney2773]

Whoo! I was waiting on this video for today! Thanks Jesse!

[@Bill-lt5qf]

Omg, 998k subs, i swear you got 2k in under a week. Congrats again man, you got this. the next day & it's 999k subs.

[@adjwindu70]

2:12:45 i had the same question! I think torgal is a magic user or a dominant. However, i have a hard time thinking who he would be a dominate for other than leviathan

[@laharlkent]

Fenrir? The giant wolf? beast god?

[@adjwindu70]

@@laharlkent I've played further and will not spoil it. I'll just say it's cool!

[@laharlkent]

@@adjwindu70 Thank you both ways, Till I get there my head cannon since the first aetherflow is Fen.

[@oplawlz]

It actually just makes sense to keep one empty potion and high potion slot all the time, the game showers you with them.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

As of today, Final Fantasy XVI has sold 3 million units baby!

[@katarjin]

1:32:28 *Happy Catbirb noises* shame one of my own had to be put down, but it kept stealing all the fis

[@cyndryok]

Well. Not only has my collector's edition arrived late, the driver dropped it in front of my building so it got stolen. Yay. At least I have Jesse's playthrough.

[@teodoro902100]

When is the next one?

[@WD_Gaster66]

Hey Jesse, you should try out new abilities when you next get the chance. You can refund any ability at any time to change things up or if you don't end up vibing with a skill. Also, someone said to press triangle to know what Mastering an ability does. You should do that to get an even better feel for your abilities (and to know not to waste points Mastering skills when not needed)

[@nickynoo831]

I've been enjoying watching as the episodes are coming out just after I finish the sections in my play through. Loving the commentary and the energy. #ThisIsFinalFantasy

[@DeletedSanityCPG]

I am loving your play through of XVI!! Do you initially stream on KZbin or are you on Twitch initially??

[@missfuneralsong]

"why isn't torgal affected by the aetherflood?" easy. because he's a very good boy.

[@Dracobyte]

News flash: As of today, FF XVI has sold 3 million copies!

[@wood1066]

And people are still trying to spin it as a negative, smh.

[@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams]

​@@wood1066 The idiots have been out of the woodwork since that rumor about the preorders popped up. Let them be, the game is doing great despite all the review bombings and misleading negativity

[@Doomrider47]

At this point Jesse's Bag of Holding must be breaking seams with how many sellable items he has. May even be able to afford all the Music and Elixers he could ever want if he sold everything

[@grieversnow]

Hey, my dood! See your sub count, that's another 2k my mans! And another 2k away from... well look at that... that's a fricken million... I'm hyped for ya.

[@iamsquatty]

I've watched another playthrough so I know the story, and last video when you were talking about how cool it would be to see sir wade again I was like "..... 👀" 😂

[@tinybee7780]

Rest in peace Stephen Critchlow - I can definitely hear some of Count Edmont's voice in Byron especially later on he gets more speaking lines later in the game. I just wished we had met Byron during Clive's younger years. He provides the levity that the game sorely needed to counterbalance the constant barrage of pathos (kudos to whoever gets that reference). Also, whoever wrote that scene where a theater play was used to make Byron recognize Clive needs a raise. The elemental affinities were one of my minor gripes about the game when I played it - Like what Jesse said, it just doesn't makes sense to attacks bombs (or that Liquid Flame boss in this video) with fire attacks. But the more I think about it, the more limiting it would be if elemental weaknesses are added especially in the beginning of the game. Since fire from Phoenix is the only element you have access to at the start for example, fighting fire resistant/ immune enemies in the early game would end up being a slog.

[@Plasmaspy]

23:22 i legit thought someone was knocking on my door lol

[@RendMaim]

24:17 YOU LOOKED RIGHT AT IT

[@TarossBlackburn]

I love Uncle Byron.

[@Canucks4us]

Sir Wade got me so hyped and Hortence is such a nice lady.

[@whateverwhocares3805]

Did anyone notice Torgle in the boss cutscene at 2:18:00 is Jesus walking? Boy is not sinking in the water at all.

[@wolfganggreiner7903]

I kinda makes me happy to see that 1M. Not quite sure why, but I like being happy. So yay 😁

[@kimikaizen88]

"Burnt Blade... From Wade" needs to be a sticker. 😂

[@DrumMajorsAMM]

*really dark moment where we find the black shield has murders many Branded* Jesse "Can we... bring this bridge down???"

[@timeshade]

oh look who broke a Million subs! congrats!

[@RendMaim]

Is the "cooooooooooooooooooool" thing with the Bard a reference to something?

[@CallMeNoa]

I haven't looked at the credits yet to confirm it, but some people are saying that Uncle Byron has the same (sadly now dead) voice actor as Count Fortemps from 14.

[@Nedread]

ALSO, Byron was voiced by Stephen Critchlow (legendary VA behind Edmont de Fortemps), at least in part.

[@alternis]

Can't wait to see the next one Jesse! You are the best.

[@jamarswope2341]

Jesse realizing he's been sitting on free gil with those valuables! Maybe soon he'll realize that mastering abilities is a waste of points if you're only equipping them to their regular Eikons lol.

[@presenttation4610]

Don't ignore Ramuh Jesse. In fact, please find out more about how all your abilities work and take advantage of them, instead of just staying in your comfort zone. There's so much more you can do instead of dodging and spamming square, then occasionally throwing in Pheonix abilities. It's good that you discovered you can use Gouge after Deadly Embrace, but you can seriously use it outside of that one niche situation.

[@FahadGG1]

Bryon sense , Jill revenge moment. ah im in love with this game..

[@groundcontrolto]

Sorry to all the other KZbinrs that I subscribe to but Jesse is getting all my attention of late.

[@avlaenamnell6994]

Torgals not affected BECAUSE HE IS A GOOD BOY AND A FINE HOUND

[@TonusStoneshield]

Wonder if he'll realize that the lightning ranged is actually best when used on a single enemy that you can stack all nine charges on.

[@thomasfleming8131]

Going to throw out an early comment about the elemental thing. It would'nt surprise me jf the lack of elemental weaknesses is because of how combat works. You only have control of Clive, not his party, so you'd have a hard time triggering weaknesses much less the frustrarion of Cid or Jill healing an enemy with their elemental attacks. And even besides that, you unlock the elemental powers for Clive at what seems to be a slow but steady rate, so until the late game how many would you actuslly be able to take advantage of?

[@WD_Gaster66]

There is actually an element of that in the game. I think it'll appear as something along the lines of "Eikonic Advantage" or something like that when you attack an enemy with their elemental weakness

[@fawkespryde9183]

I'm curious if we'd ever see Dominants for other Eikons. They never mentioned Leviathan in this but he's usually right up there with Ramuh and Shiva, etc. Then they have a whole group of new ones like Ravana.. Holy shit, I would love to see a Dominant for the Eikon of War.

[@mst3kharris]

Jill at 3:09:07 is the most badass woman I’ve ever seen in an FF game.

[@Tarvos0]

As soon as I turn on my pc for the day, lets gooooooo!

[@cecilandblues]

I'm still unclear who's bloodline holds the Phoenix. I had thought it was Clive's father, as the son of the previous phoenix. But they describe his mother as trying to preserve her bloodline. If it is her I thought her decent to madness would be connected to her inability to birth a new dominant since she doesn't know Joshua lives.

[@thomasfleming8131]

Remember her cutscene with Clive's father. She's clearly believes in noble blood as a concept that puts them above everyone else.

[@Vallarax]

One of the early ATL entries said Elwin and Anabella were cousins arranged to marry to preserve the bloodline, so she would have likely been the niece of the previous Phoenix.

[@cecilandblues]

@@Vallarax thank you, I hadn't caught that.

[@williamchristy9463]

I'm pretty sure her descent into madness is caused either *by* her new child-- who she is grooming to become Ultima, not knowing that Clive is the dominant of Ifrit, or perhaps about the connection between Ultima and Ifrit. Hence why he had a small robot statue as seen from those ruins.

[@vault29a]

​@@williamchristy9463isnt her child bahamut?

[@malcovich_games]

"It is I, Sir Crendor of Camelot!"

[@Keighvin1]

So do the acknowledgments do anything, or are they just for feedback? Like Jesse getting Semi-Prime Finish on the Marlboro (I know it’s a morbol now, but I’m to old to change on that)

[@laharlkent]

2:14:50 They have a cave troll They have an Ice troll They have an internet troll

[@SuperKlode]

Torgal's pedigree and abilities gets experience by being prompted in battle, his pedigree being the overall total level, and gets experience for any ability being prompted, whereas sic and ravage also have their own xp bar for being prompted 😊 Another thing I have also come to understand, his heal ability is very close range, so he heals characters in an AoE in his immediate area, centered around him 😊

[@Afoxi]

Did they record someone dying when they recorded Jill at 3:07:00?

[@lockskelington314]

That is a good point about Torgal not being affected maybe he’s the leviathan!

[@adjwindu70]

2:17:40 it took me hours to realize that. Dont feel bad Jesse