This is what an FPS Controller should be! | Flydigi Vader 4 Pro Review

[@ArtisWar]

UPDATE: As of 7:30p EST it seems that the pre-order status is unavailable on Amazon. Check back over the next few hours and days as I was told this was for PREORDER FIRST. Will update this post with more info when I have it. Uploaded as soon as it became available for PREORDER on Amazon Limited quantities of the AC edition (as I'm told by FlyDigi)! I will also have a few to give away (both Apex and Vader models) at WSOW AND TWITCHCON!

[@shaners1591]

@@ArtisWar no update? Amazon still doesn't have

[@ArtisWar]

@@shaners1591 Emailed my contact at Flydigi. Will update soon.

[@Siickem92]

@caljones1383 u cant

[@ArtisWar]

@@KrunchTastic because i decided to argue with stupid. I’m gonna hide you from the channel after you see this :)

[@MrPopo-bd1ix]

@caljones1383Use it's bluetooth 5.0 if you must instead.

[@NubzMedia]

Thanks for the solid review

[@DimiCh405]

Thank you for the comprehensive video. I do want to ask, what is that thumbstick on 14:00 and where can I buy it?

[@kaykay-rw5xi]

I bought an apex4 from your review and I’m loving it, thanks for all the great content

[@stevensv4864]

some sticks have broken

[@huhnicho]

the stick are good yet?

[@kaykay-rw5xi]

@@huhnicho no issues

[@PeytonRobinson]

Love that Flydigi is always innovating in the controller industry, very refreshing, and at a great price.

[@ArtisWar]

Couldn't agree more!

[@bighaus224]

Except for the single most important part the sticks? Not Hal effect is a non starter.

[@PeytonRobinson]

@@bighaus224 WDYM, it has hall effects already

[@bighaus224]

@@PeytonRobinson did he not say "analog sticks" with "sensors" in the video? maybe I missed something?

[@bighaus224]

​@@PeytonRobinson Nvm. I didn't watch far enough. Fell asleep watching. Hal effect!

[@dannorcph]

What is the name/company of that soft braided orange USB cable you are using in your Flydigi Vader 4 Pro?

[@anandj5453]

I feel so scammed, I went and bought a PS5 edge for PC 5 months back, and they have absolutly nothing so advanced. Thought there would be controler modules for replacement, but those are always out of stock. The Vader 4 Pro is so user oriented, they know exactly what gamers need for different genres of games. Hope they keep the focus on their products. I might have to treat myself for christmas again. Really nice review as well.

[@maxvader1000]

the sticks are better on the edge for shooters, but thats it.

[@anandj5453]

@@maxvader1000 yep. But Flydigi is the clear winner with native support to work with windows, comes with 1000 hz polling rate without haveing to use external software, and I am sure with the tension adjustable stick, most would find their preferred tension. And It comes at half the cost of an edge controller, whose replacement controller modules are going for the price of a Gamesir controller.

[@maxvader1000]

@@anandj5453 for me the Vader 4 Pro is a 1/3 of the price ($100 vs $300 in my currency), it's not even a contest at that point.

[@GHOSTxREIGN]

Doing a giveaway for the Vader 4 Pro, check the link in our bio to enter!

[@YonkoDarx]

i was just thinking about selling my elite 2 and buy a new controller , im gonna buy this one , you conviced me , big fan here , keep up the good work brother

[@GHOSTxREIGN]

Doing a giveaway for the Vader 4 Pro, check the link in our bio to enter!

[@Jamesbsc]

Finally, someone who understands competitive FPS games reviews these controllers.

[@whytrap4901]

As an owner of both controllers as well as many other Pro controllers I wholeheartedly agree the vader 4 Pro takes it to a new level. It's like my secret weapon in war zone.

[@shaners1591]

hey do you prefer apex 4 or vader 4?

[@whytrap4901]

@@shaners1591 vader 4

[@M1N3RDOM]

what "pro" controllers do you have if you dont mind me asking? ive been looking into getting a Nagashock or battle beaver but this might add another option to the list, just not a fan of Xbox stick placement.

[@whytrap4901]

@@M1N3RDOM i have had a cinch, scufs, both version of the xbox elite, gamesir g7 se, apex 4 , vader 4 and a ds edge

[@gforce4174]

Cabe you dolphin dive and slide cancel in different paddles ?

[@Dangerrd]

Would be an instant buy for me if it was a ps5 layout. Also the position of back buttons aren't my favorite, but to each their own!

[@killshot3331]

I’ve never used an Xbox layout until I switched to this. Instantly was used to it and if anything it’s more comfortable. My scuf reflex fps and those paddle placements actually feel weird to me now. I’ll never buy another scuf again. You’re selling if those are your reasons for not trying it especially for $80

[@Dangerrd]

@@killshot3331 I tried the apex 4, and I really hated the big gap in between the back buttons. Coming from a scuff reflex, I just love how the back paddles are connected and I don’t actually have to shift my middle fingers in order to press them.

[@killshot3331]

@@Dangerrd Yeah I didn’t like them at first but you get used to them. The grip tape for the paddles is a must otherwise they were too slick and clunky to use. Love them now and haven’t touched my scuf since

[@Thegreatgamer101]

4 months with this controller. All I can tell is that it is the best controller I’ve used hands down. Way better than any other I’ve had. Like miles ahead.

[@BenTefo]

Will the stick break if I buy it? Is its vibration sufficient? I can't choose between Vader 4 Pro and Apex 4. Can you help me? I play story games.

[@Thegreatgamer101]

@@BenTefo I don't think so. I play shooter games and I use my sticks pretty intensely, I haven't had any problems.

[@caldunkin]

@@BenTefoI have both! I bought the apex first for about $150-$160 usd, then I saw that company released the v4p for $80 so I grabbed that! Haven’t touched the apex since.The Vader 4 pro is better as it has more customization.. can customize stick calibration etc. go with Vader 4 pro.

[@BenTefo]

@@caldunkin Which is better in terms of vibration, excluding adaptive triggers?

[@caldunkin]

@ I would say V4P, you can customize vibration according to your grip. Even tho I use vibration off because I play fps. V4P is cheaper and has more customization.

[@n64slayer]

8:52 this statement is completely false due to the fact that shooter games automatically use a software like the space 3.0 app that makes the path of the joystick or circularity a perfect 0. If you know anything about audio its basically a raw input and when it reaches the game it uses a "target curve" to change the input for a better experience. Please do a little more research before doing these reviews as many people see them and when even the slightest misconception becomes apparent to a large audience they wont know any better because they indeed believe everything they see on the internet...

[@GlockyManGen5]

Thank you I feel like there was a lot of things he could have went into better detail

[@Cam-B]

What are your thoughts on the actual latency of the sticks and buttons as shown by John Punch and Gamepadla? Seems like standard ps5 controller has less latency when overclocked

[@scottmortimer6918]

I’ve had this controller for a couple of weeks now, won’t go back to any other controller. Buy the stick on grip tape and it feels better than any other controller I’ve used (just about been through them all at this point). 0 0 dead zone feels amazing too

[@shaners1591]

hey do you prefer apex 4 or vader 4?

[@maxkruppa3716]

Which grip tape should I buy for the Vader 4 Pro?

[@scottmortimer6918]

@@shaners1591 personally i prefer the vader 4 pro for fps games. the haptic triggers are something I can live without on the Apex 4 and I dont love the screen either.

[@mcgameing1]

Man hit us with that rectangularity 😂 Pre ordering mine can’t wait to get it !

[@mcgameing1]

Anyone got an EU amazing link ?

[@NovA_UK]

@@mcgameing1 Ordered mine from GadgetHyper. Had no problems and delivery was very quick

[@MrVenemous17]

I thought it couldn't get better than the Vader3. I was wrong. The 4 is MAGNIFICENT.

[@darrozayy]

Got the controller in about a week ago and this is genuinely the best controller I’ve ever used. Was worried about the rear button placement but they are placed in the perfect position. It’s reminds me of a better version of scufs rear buttons.

[@KurnazTilki-e1m]

Just came in an hour ago works amazingly with the xbox and the goku usb adapter the difference between this and the elite 2 is crazyy this one is way more responsive and in my opinion way better in every way!

[@haydenwilson6852]

using the goku with this controller on the xbox is it easy to set-up just switch both to Bluetooth and go ? and do u find any latency issues

[@KurnazTilki-e1m]

@@haydenwilson6852 you have to connect the goku with a normal xbox controller set the vader 4 pro on bluetooth and thats it no latency at all ive been cooking people in warzone like never before lol;

[@NubzMedia]

Watched tons of reviews, heard all the opinions, placed my Cyber Monday order this morning! Thanks!!

[@GoldenKnight702]

How much was it for cyber Monday?

[@NubzMedia]

@@GoldenKnight702 $66.78USD it should be here today so I'll post my initial thoughts... I'm hoping for greatness!😁

[@NubzMedia]

@@GoldenKnight702 I was $68 USD on Amazon and it was just delivered! Out of the box it played solid and was a BEAST once I set it up! Definitely going to give my KK3 a run for the money :D

[@icyneechee]

Is it Compatible with the Xbox Series X yet or Not ??

[@NubzMedia]

@@icyneechee As far as I can tell no, it's not compatible with the X. :(

[@BunneyM]

was expecting like 200$ price but I am really impressed! Solid Sticks!

[@andreyg.5149]

in my country this controller cost 58$ with free shipping

[@Adizzle5668AD317]

Mannnn i had this controller for about two weeks and didn’t notice anything about these settings good video 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@ArtisWar]

Glad to hear it

[@honorablehouse6806]

You miss the most important part is how do you get the keyboard buttons to work on COD, doesn't read some of those keys. Was anyone able to connect other than ABYX?

[@fhf17]

Turn off steam input

[@Padygy]

What are the negatives of Hall effect sticks, along with shoulder and trigger buttons?

[@Liid_d]

I was waiting for August 10. This is an awesome surprise!

[@NvyZero]

Just got mine! thanks for the review and going over the options!

[@justinhicks7814]

I have an elite 2 and just bought this one. I’m kind of regretting it due to finding out the Vader 4 pro has about 15ms of stick latency which is a lot for a pro controller. We’ll see how it feels but this is the 1 major issue with this controller.

[@bntlygaming]

@ 14:00 WHAT THUMBSTICK GRIP IS THAT? I need!!!

[@bntlygaming]

Someone please come through! I need these lol

[@BoxSamma]

Sameee

[@Arroncoot]

Apparently the LiveZone 3d Printed Snap On topper. ArtisWar commented on the same question like a 150 comments below this one.

[@bntlygaming]

Someone help me out! Haha. I found one on Etsy that looks similar I think. Where do you get these thumbstick grips?? @artiswar

[@Langston2Live]

Kontrol freeks

[@yasmanygonzalez9975]

ps4 ps5 variant plz thats all i want for Christmas.

[@RedeyeJedi40]

Somehow mine has drift even after calibrating it and it showing dead center in the calibration section. No idea how this is possible but its still an incredible controller.

[@insertnamehere4419]

Gamepadtester doesnt want to see my Vader 4. Says connect a controller. Oh well, thought i'd check it out...but the controller is amazing, no issues. I thought it was great out of the box before I even installed the update fixing stick latency and outer deadzone! Very happy.

[@Fear1essEnder]

Could we get a best console controller video? Elite Series 2 feels horrible compared to the Dualsense Edge but I have to play on XBOX now.

[@shaundasheepmurphy1589]

Just ordered one of these and the grip take, just sending the Razer Wolverine 3 Pro back as I didnt like the dead zones on it, they missed with it as everything else was good

[@Killabee88]

just bought it :) i can't wait !! ill have it just in time for BO6 early acces :D !! thank you great content !!

[@lanisinapi]

Can anyone tell me where to download the space station software? I can’t seem to find it anywhere. Not on the site either..

[@WarioIsMario]

I purchased and tried to use the Apex 4 controller you recommended but I could not get over the back button placement. I can easily use all 4 back paddles using different fingers for each on Xbox's Elite controller, but the Apex and Vader back button placement doesn't allow for that :/ I liked the Apex 4 in all other aspects but that was a dealbreaker for me

[@thiago8098]

There are some 3d printables mods online some for free, look for it tell me if it works

[@1SlyGuy]

I have an elite 2 because of how perfect the paddles are but want the Apex 4 because of the polling rate. I’d look up “apex 4 paddles” there’s people online who sell paddles for them on Etsy. You have to take the controller apart but there’s guides online and the end result seems to be very similar to the elite 2 paddles.

[@zephrrh7615]

i just wish they would make the controller in Playstation button layout

[@JayPaulGaming]

Will they allow the C and Z buttons to be mapped on the Apex 4? I could really use one of those for push to talk.

[@Itz_littlebear]

Wish they would give us paddle options like the elite series. These back buttons simply don’t work for me with the way I hold my controller

[@L3GIT91]

are those additional settings on the joysticks available for the apex 4? i never noticed it in the software.

[@Reaper8007]

This company needs to make a PS4 style controller PLEASE 🥺

[@fanatik3287]

For real thats the only thing keeping me from switching from the envision pro

[@vincie1020]

@@fanatik3287 i was on a ps layout forever and switching was pretty easy, the aim stick is still in the same spot

[@SincerelySimple]

@@fanatik3287im currently using the envision pro but I just bought the vader 4. My envision pro cant be overclocked, my back paddle broke after 2 months and now my Right trigger stopped working and the icue software has been a nightmare for me. Hopefully your experience has been better.

[@Proctaaa]

I had to go buy a new ps4 roller and connect it to my PlayStation paddles because these companies love making the left analog stick like the Xbox 😂 We need some ps4 roller love with paddles and clickynessssss

[@billcipher534]

Gulikit is making a ps style controller

[@ArtisWar]

The Vader is BACK IN STOCK on Amazon!

[@user-om4wm6pt2u]

I have the Vader for 2 months and love it thanks for sharing

[@ramsesgonzaleztoledo2992]

the controller is absolutely great, but the position for the C and Z should be other, may be like wolverine v3 pro (close to the triggers) or scuf envision pro (on the left and right side of the controller), so you can remap those and use them in FPS game without release the right and left sticks, BUT FOR FIGHTING GAMES ARE GREAT....

[@LAWLESSXX88]

I'm not a big fan of the apex, but I love the vader 4. That quick easy tension adjustment sold me instantly and the adjustable clicky triggers a awesome. My elite series 2 finally had to be retired during to bad drift and I was in the market for a new pad but didn't want to go back to the elite and didn't want to spend that price for a 3rd time. I borrowed my buddys apex 4 and liked it but not enough to buy it. I found the vader on KZbin and finally decided to buy it. I found the black flag edition for 85$, I absolutely love this controller!!!! And it was cheaper than most of the competitors. I did add some sticky grips though

[@BenTefo]

I only play story games. Do you think it would be better to buy Vader 4 Pro or Apex 4? Do they both have the same vibration?

[@Highupp]

How does the tension in the joy sticks compare to a ps5 duel sense edge? Because I currently use a duel sense edge and really like the tension but wish it was a little bit stronger.

[@hiepbenh88]

Exactly bro, when u play fps game u gonna need soft left stick and hard right stick, i have to use foam ring to do it on my controllers but it make the stick cant go max range, it's quiet ok coz i alway play with verry high sensi but with this stick, u dont need foam ring anymore and becoz u can go max range on right stick, u have more options for right stick sensi !

[@theexpatgunner]

I have the FlyDigi Vader 4 Pro and a Scuf envision pro. For me the Vader 4 Pro wins. And at one 3rd of the price it’s a steal!

[@filipstojanovic8975]

Hello, will I be able to play COD via steam with the vader 4 pro? As in all buttons are available, usable and remapping supported? Or do I have to do it over battlenet.

[@obsidian1111]

Hi ArtisWar, i bought this controller. I used to play CoD on MnK all the time, but I recently switched to controller. It will take a long time before i get comfortable with it though. First game i played with the Vader 4 pro i dropped 45 kills. :)

[@soggyfries4347]

My Dualsense has been collecting dust ever since this was delivered to my door.

[@antxonitxo]

Do any of the flydigi controller have button sequence mapping or are they just single button mapping?

[@brigel1401]

Art thanks for all the hard work... I just got my controller today and am having trouble binding dive to the "c" button on the front. I want it to be my dive button so I can get away from the hybrid. I went into advanced movement settings and made the dive feature the alt button. Then I changed to slide only in warzone. The dive button will not work and I feel like I have tried everything... please help. Thanks. PS so far the controller is sweeeet!

[@l_ECL1PSE_l]

What is Warzone's policy on using the fligi software macro in game? Things like turning semi auto guns full auto are clearly cheating but what about things like binding buttons to auto navigate buystations with 1 button press.

[@ArtisWar]

Macros are against TOS no matter how they're achieved. Mice, keyboards, and other controller have been able to do this for a long time. Don't. They can tell.

[@l_ECL1PSE_l]

@@ArtisWar Just to be clear, as long as we stick to just remapping (1 controler input to 1 controler/keyboard output) warzone won't have any issue? Been using the vader 3 pro and considering getting the vader 4 pro later on but I want to know if warzone will consider flidigi software as cheating software even if I don't use the marco features it has. Never used any macros at all and I stick to just remapping but since warzone lets keyboards have more features like dedicated reload and prone buttons it's a bit unclear from the terms of service if this is a "competitive advantage" or if it's completely fine. It would really suck for someone to get banned even without using macros simply because the anti-cheat detects flidigi as cheat software.

[@ArtisWar]

@@l_ECL1PSE_l no issue with 3 month of playing on flydigi controller, 4 months of envision play no issues. With keyboard binds.

[@Weebfnbr]

I have a huge problem that I think should be addressed with this controller. The resistance on the L3/R3 click when using full range of motion has made it un usable. Push all the way in any direction on one of your analog sticks and try to use the button. It becomes SIGNIFICANTLY harder to press down when the stick is in a normal position. When playing FPS games this is an important aspect with movement and completely ruins the experience. Has anyone else experienced this?

[@AsTravaDaVida]

Got an apex 4, it broke in 3 days usage ( the left stick)

[@ArtisWar]

They acknowledged a manufacturing issue with that model and have changed it for the Vader 4 Pro

[@AnnaPunch]

Very good and detailed review. Special thanks from John Punch for the link to gamepadla in the description.

[@drewb6107]

I got the victrix gambit prime to see how the controller functions and so far, it's really nice. I want hall effect sticks modules, so I think I am going to exhange the prime toward the BFG

[@igornikonov9641]

Why didn't you say anything about the gyro?? Can you finally use it for FPS games, like on steam deck?!

[@tdubbleu76]

damn they kept thesame button setup for the back, unfortunate

[@Jonaswallen83]

good content as usual! I got my 4 PRO today, first plunder game I got 21 kills and was accused of hacking by team of 4 that me and my buddy were farming. The tension rings are awesome! 4pro + Art sound is the shit! 👏🏻

[@djphat1736]

Just ordered this and will try it out today! I wish they didn't have the extra buttons as I don't need them. And I am hoping it will work well enough on my Mac too. I know I'm special. I've so far found that many of the controllers I've tested so far. Some have an inverted Up Down on the Left joystick. And it's not fixable via the built in macOS game controller app or in game. This happens when I use the 2.4Ghz dongle or wired. When I use Bluetooth, it works. But, the lag is noticeable. However, I want something I can create more tension on the joysticks. As the ones I've used so far are too loose for me. The Xbox is so far the best for me. However, the drift is real. And MS doesn't make a Hall Effect controller. What a world! Hoping this works out. If not, Amazon return works!

[@jayfk1579]

the redesigned sticks are also more reliable than the version on the apex from what I've read.

[@sscan77]

W vid, Art. Easily of the the most helpful creators in the CoD space right now.

[@TheMightyZuko]

@ 14:08 what thumbstick is that on his right stick?

[@kid.l.b_gaming3338]

So i have a apex 4.....i can get a vader 4 for about £60 ($75) is it worth dropping the money...is it that much of an upgrade from a apex 4?

[@Kaloo1968]

I've watched a couple of other video reviewers of Flydigi controllers state that their 1-year warranty is misleading and inaccurate. According to others, Flydigi insists that customers go through the place of original purchase to have them honor the warranty, but places like Amazon (for example) only have a 30-day return. What's been your experience on this topic?

[@mr.backhouse1625]

Of course there is nothing said about the gyro on the controller. Is gyro a four letter word to most KZbinrs now? Maybe it’s just me but, I cannot play any fps game without the gyro function

[@ArtisWar]

It is 100p just you.

[@TheJoshua6430]

What thumbstick extensions are you using on thr controller?

[@lucal7756]

Just a question: does it support BT/XBox controller connection to PC Win too (for gaming laptops, no dongle/cable)?

[@ancientaquila]

Does this response curve overwrite any games response curve if set to default or if the game has no response curve to set?

[@SSJH3ctor]

Please talk them into making a symmetrical controller. I feel like I get arthritis on my left pointer finger other than that the controller is great

[@Jeff-ms1to]

Hey Art love the content as always. Definitely going to order this soon, but what thumbstick extender/grip are you using in the video? Currently on a series 2 controller and it has an extended thumbstick so I'll need to get something for the Vader and yours looks nice and comfortable too.

[@sdubg8981]

Digi 4 is great but hard to get use to the back LT RT to not being pressed right away

[@personalitybot]

I'm looking for a low-rise convex w/ high-rise for the sticks, that ideally won't damage them but will stick tight. Any recs?

[@squidszy]

wait how do you bind your bottons to keyboard keys? for me its only letting me bind to my mouse

[@NvyZero]

What did you put your deadzones to in COD, ive been using zero but thinking of moving to 3?

[@scotty2shotty]

Dang I just bought the apex but I wish I would have waited for the Vader for the mouse switch triggers

[@n64slayer]

The only software changes I noticed is that the controller is 10x more buggy than the apex 4. The top 2 rear buttons dont work 90% of the time, joysticks input random values and drift, the C and Z only work 90% of the time too. Not to mention, where are the rubber grips? I mean seriously, if $40-60 come with rubber grips and similar specs, this $80 controller very well should do the same...

[@IAM-xf9ir]

Can you describe a simple test to feel the effects of circularity in game? I see the test you did, and it's impressive, I'm just having a hard time distinguishing this setting on with any other pro controller. Great work and keep it up, AIW!

[@PoseidonIRL]

What up Art! As always lovely review, bringing the tech specs to the lay folk. Have you or anyone else heard of bans from using this controller? Reading through some Amazon and r/ reviews I noticed it was brought up a few times (though perhaps those people had more going on in the background). Thanks!

[@Intekon]

Thumbs up for everything except for the position of the back paddle buttons. I like the standard 4 paddle button positions.

[@Bp4FSniper]

The more expensive Apex 4 should get the new joystick settings aswell, if it is not hardware limitated

[@ArtisWar]

I'm told this feature will be added to the Apex in the future with a software update but for now, the circularity/rectangularity option is only on the Vader 4 Pro

[@fanatik3287]

​@ArtisWar man I hope so bought the apex 4 before seeing this video and was disappointed to not see any of these settings

[@Vanilla_Jo]

I have had the Apex 4 for about 5 months now, still love it and is easily best controller I have ever used. However, would recommend the Vader 4 purely for the price to feature ratio, $80 is insane for what you are getting.

[@saulzelaya4208]

Can you help me I still get stick drift on the left thumbstick after I calibrate I don’t know why 😭

[@DrDaydrinker]

Hey can you also remap the back buttons to keyboard inputs like spacebar and f keys on the flydigi apex 2?

[@goldnx]

Will Flydigi be updating Apex 4 software to have the circular form for sticks? And 1000% agree that the front extra buttons should be on the sides like the Scuf Envision. Would make this an endgame controller.

[@fanatik3287]

Man I hope the apex 4 gets this setting being there most expensive controller

[@AshX_human]

I'm afraid this is something they can't do, otherwise they have already updated it. I have Apex 4 and it's a bummer that we can't have the Vadder 4 functionalities

[@shoichikiseragi8450]

saw this video yesterday and decided that since i needed a new controller anyway i might as well give this company another shot as i ended up buying the vader 3 and absolutely hated it as it was non functional and ended up returning it im hoping the vader 4 works as well as youve described cause you made it sound like a really nice option for controller users

[@RuneRev]

Great video! Do you mind sharing what kontrolfreek you had attached in this video? Never seen that one before

[@R3apkaz3shini]

I think he has the talon grip tape on top of the kf

[@prolific6980]

Do you recommend me plugging my kiwi orchestra lites to my a40 mixamp or my motherboard

[@Saggingpear4068]

Mine does just like weird like animation where it gets stuck for like one second maybe two and it is like an auto pilot Vader 4 feel like that

[@Saggingpear4068]

Never mind, joystick automatic calibration hahahaha 😂 I literally just plugged and play. Didn’t even get the software yet. 😂

[@Im_Camping_at_B]

Can you explain/show how to set up an Auto Ping macro for the right trigger please?

[@dvds1571]

The best roller ive ever used. way better than my bs custom scuff like for like 400

[@bp5267]

Anyone know what thumbstick cap/extender is on the right thumbstick of his controller? Thanks!

[@ArtisWar]

LiveZone 3d Printed Snap On topper

[@nathanielcastro6786]

Art what brand raised thumb sticks can I buy that fit I like raised inserts that are the same circumference roughly

[@Deleterfps]

How are they not listing this on amazon canada tho 😢 the old controller wasnt listed either

[@JaminGray47]

Just got this controller and I cannot get the Flydigi Space 3.4.3 software to work at all. It installed fine but the app just won't start. What a bummer.

[@maxvader1000]

go back a couple versions.

[@JaminGray47]

@maxvader1000 I ended up getting it to work by installing .NET SDK version 6 from Microsoft

[@JRDE56]

Do you think if keeping the software open for like you said for the keyboard binds in warzone could potentially get flagged by anti cheat/shadow bans? Because obviosuly once you open it the first time it’s always open in the background/taskmanager?? Just got mine really impressed with it so far as a fast paced sweaty warzone player

[@andreyg.5149]

No, well I think the buttons are just recognized as keyboard buttons..

[@andreyg.5149]

It is also as just as any other program, the game recognizes it as a normal input

[@JRDE56]

@@andreyg.5149 but normally stuff like this is flagged as macros

[@musek5048]

wait these aren't hall triggers? would these triggers not last as long as the sticks?

[@evoj9028]

Just bought the Apex 4 and love it but should I have got this one 🙈