This Is The BEST Controller I've Ever Used. 1000 Hz, Adjustable Hall Effect Sticks & Mouse Switches

[@TrueGameData]

Link to ArtIsWar's video with more analytical analyses: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2jUameGg7yfq80si=dbMzBsr0hDWSJXwC Don't forget to like the video and subscribe if you appreciate the content! So close to 250k!

[@ChrisAdams180]

This controller feels so good! also this thing feels like M&K inputs that's the best way I can describe it.

[@Oldo]

Can you compare polling rate between dongle, bluetooth and wired please

[@sQuaTsiFieD]

could you tell me what kontrol freeks fit this controller? I bought one a couple days ago and none of them fit. Looks like you had one on in start of video

[@TrueGameData]

​@@sQuaTsiFieD Playstation kontrolfreeks just barely fit but I got it on there

[@Rustydude2030]

ArtisWar's vid is great too, but you gotta check out The Controller Captain @GamerHeaven

[@vice214]

The Hall effect is an effect that occurs because of the Lorentz force. Essentially, if a charged particle moves with vertical component through a magnetic field, then the Lorentz force deflects the electrons to the left. This causes electrons going through a metal collect on one side, which creates a voltage called the Hall voltage. This voltage can be measured. As for how this is used in the controller, I’d assume, that the stick is attached to a magnet, or a sensor, and moving the stick changes the magnitude of the Hall effect, which can be detected by measuring the Hall current.

[@LowKickMT]

your long haul flight seat neighbor if you make eye contact

[@prowlerrSZN]

@@LowKickMT💀💀💀💀

[@scumkevin]

what

[@ehonda8848]

Yapping trying to look smart in KZbin comments…

[@vice214]

@@ehonda8848 educating people so they understand tech is not yapping to sound smart… I have no need to prove anyone on the internet if or that I am smart. Couldn’t care less. Just a comment for those interested. You are obviously not interested. Why not just ignore my comment then?

[@georgerr335]

30 secs in and ytou showing pure fkin authenticity thank you tony for not seeing us as cattle

[@TrueGameData]

moo

[@Jimbodawg]

Yeah fr I can go watch something else since I'm not on PC lol

[@mrniceguyfrodo]

Tony is a no filter straight up guy. One of the best.

[@whyyn0tt.]

I was afraid this video, days after artiswar's, was indication Flydigi were paying for reviews...but Tony dispelled that almost immediately.

[@Twobetrayals]

Friggen legend.

[@Flydigi]

Thank you all for your love and support for our product. We are committed to exploring innovative features on our controller that can bring revolutionary changes and better serve the gaming community. In the future, we will continue to incorporate more innovative technologies into our controllers, so stay tuned!

[@supernice_auto]

looking forward to the next iteration of this wonderful controller- you guys are killing it!

[@MrSidkhan1]

Change ur back button/paddle layout please, and trigger stops, but nice controller

[@supernice_auto]

@@MrSidkhan1 whats wrong with the back buttons? they feel great after some getting used to

[@MrSidkhan1]

​@supernice_auto vertical would be better, how our fingers naturally sit and hold the controller, without adjusting your fingers or hand

[@Rajusharmal]

​@@MrSidkhan1the back button are better than xbox elite

[@cthecav]

Elite series 2 also has the adjustable stick tension but has a ton of other common defects

[@SixpennyHail45]

I won't buy another Elite series 2 controller, I've had too many issues

[@c0rpse1]

@@SixpennyHail45 it doesnt have any defects or issues that other controllers wont have. just about every company uses generic shitty 100000 click micro switches for bumpers, and all companies (besides this one) use carbon potentiometers. guess what? you can literally install ps4 microswitches or sticks into an xbox controller, and its the same part.

[@dopamine-87]

ive been through 5 since they released 😭

[@i_amChrisJxmes]

@@c0rpse1lol yes they do.

[@SixpennyHail45]

@@i_amChrisJxmes exactly! I've had two Elite & 3 Aimcontrollers.

[@ineedmoney5113]

Where you been TGD??? We need season 4 close/long range vids!!!

[@TestSubj3ct9]

Been waiting on this too!!

[@baldcarrots]

Awesome video! Not sure how deep into controllers you currently are, but after reading and researching everything I could I got a GameSir T4 Kaleid controller. Hall effect, paddle buttons, mechanical buttons, all for about $40CAD. I've had nothing but good experiences with it. A bit of a hidden gem. Only downside is that it is wired, but playing on PC this hasnt been an issue for me. Just thought you might be interested.

[@JustGiverEHD1]

t4 kalied is a great controller, been using mine for almost a years and no issues, i primarily play cod,warzone and FPS games. liked so much i bought another one, don't sleep on it

[@jswagg3r1]

Just ordered one. Thanks for the info

[@Zstray17]

That paddle layout is why I can’t get away from the XB Elite 2. I just wish they were more durable and tested better

[@Shadowed_Earth]

I need this controller and the elite to have babies then I'd be happy but with tactical triggers

[@kurs3d280]

I have the Razer wolverwine v2 pro and it's the best upgrade to an elite series 2

[@Eijiken]

Glad to see that the FPS community is starting to pay attention to the input latency of your controllers! All of us in the fighting game community have been really nerdy and focused on this stuff for years, it makes such a difference. That being said, I would love to see some FPS controllers that make use of the GP2040-CE firmwares that are currently becoming the new gold stabdard with fighting game controllers.

[@slimdickens9131]

Glad to see that your community is starting to pay attention to the reduced friction effect when putting wheels on your bike! All of us in my community have been really nerdy and focused on this stuff for years, it makes such a difference.

[@Pabloesc571]

Good luck being able to detect a 4 Ms latency you're delusional. 0.004 sec is INSTANT. That part of the video was m*ronic and pointless

[@Pabloesc571]

It could be 20 Ms and you wouldn't ever notice if I told you it's 0.5 Ms lmao

[@Eijiken]

@@Pabloesc571 sure there's a certain point when it becomes perceivably instant. But considering fighting games and certain speed running categories rely on 1-frame inputs for certain combos and sequences means that having an additional frame of input latency makes things harder. Some rhythm games require frame perfect judgments (some even sub frame) to score well at, to the point where it's been a QOL change to allow offset adjustments by .01ms increments to account for monitor delay and your own reaction/reading speed. And it super matters.

[@Pabloesc571]

@@Eijiken well that was a whole lota bs 🤣 yeah 0.01ms, no human is that precise PERIOD.

[@Snaggums]

I upgraded to this controller from the Gamesir T4 Kaleid, and it’s awesome. On top of the fast performance, the thumb sticks are easily the smoothest I’ve ever tried. Not enough controller brands are innovating in their thumb sticks, and I’m super impressed with Flydigi’s.

[@shfd3832]

What's better in apex 4 than gamesir t4 kaleid?

[@Snaggums]

@@shfd3832 the main reason I switched was because I wanted 4 back buttons, but every button on the controller feels great. The face buttons are clicky like the Kaleid, but the triggers with force feedback are cool because you can customize them to have short travel for shooters. The main thing I like about the Apex 4 is the thumb sticks though. They’re the smoothest thumb sticks of any controller I’ve ever used. I switch back and forth between kbm and controller and I’ve found myself wanted to play controller more just because I love the feeling of aiming and moving on the Apex.

[@shfd3832]

@@Snaggums kbm means?

[@Snaggums]

@@shfd3832 Keyboard & Mouse

[@noskillzleague]

appreciate you being up front. really appreciate it. Thumbs up.

[@mikeD1234]

I would’ve loved to see the Gamesir G7 SE in this comparison. It is wired but it has 2 back buttons, Hall effect sticks and triggers, can be overclocked to 1000 and it’s only $45. Best value I’ve ever seen for a controller. Idk if they’re even making money or they’re just trying to get their name out there.

[@OLDAD_]

Thanks I’m going to check it out! Elite series 2 is my favorite of all the controllers I have tried so far

[@MrTerduckin]

i just ordered the apex 4 from banggood. Coming from a ES2 and im excited. A good thing about the hall effect triggers is it will teach you to relax your grip, allowing for finer aim control.

[@OLDAD_]

@@MrTerduckin nice! Let me know how you like it

[@jaredlambert7714]

Was about to snag a new controller soon, glad I saw this and Art's video.

[@johnmccausland8466]

Thanks for the upfront waiver that it's an Xbox layout and PC only. I've liked and commented to payback for your honest accountability. Love your work sir! ❤

[@spdycs]

The beauty of hall effect is that while you can set it to trigger instantly, even if you keep pulling back, you can also set it to instantly ‘de-trigger’ and re-trigger from any position

[@Chris-pc2hw]

The Xbox elite series 2 also has tension adjustment with a similar key.

[@ThisisBen]

Love my Vader 3 Pro, which is basically the mid level version of this controller. 500Hz polling, switches between regular and mouse click triggers, and 4 back buttons. My hands were made for the Xbox layout and no matter how much I use it, the PS layout is just not for me.

[@pro50joe]

I've had there other controllers in my amazon cart for a year now just waiting for them to drop a controller with mappable back buttons. Glad you made this video!

[@templarturbo]

I have the FlyDiGi Vader 3 pro and it has been really solid for the $80 I paid and I highly recommend it if on a budget. This seems to be a upgrade in most areas. Just a FYI, Brook makes an adapter called a "wingman" to make it so it can be used on PS4/5 or Xbox (need the one specific to the console). The adapter is like $45 for playstation and $50 for xbox.

[@zachschoenberg4474]

Thanks for the info about the adaptor. Do you know if the controller in the video works with the adaptor?

[@tcrviper]

​@zachschoenberg4474 Yes, I have this controller for my series x and the Brookwingman adapter.

[@tcrviper]

Yes.... I have this controller for my series x

[@TRiPPYDABS]

Wish I could share pictures of what I did with my fly digi 4 to make my own trigger stops, worked sooo damn well. I kept pushing through and couldn’t stop 😂 it’s absolutely amazing 10/10 would recommend it

[@najman2741]

Tony said get that meta gen foos

[@iJobama]

PS5 controllers so chalked, had mine 3 months and the right stick has a mind of it's own, registering random inputs up to 80%. Luckily still in warranty but after my replacement goes bad I'm getting something with hall effect sticks

[@kidbowjb]

I've had mine for 2 years

[@BlackJesus8463]

@@kidbowjb My PS controller only lasted a few months.

[@iJobama]

@@kidbowjb You clearly don't use it much then

[@aztecdemon5975]

I use my PS controller a lot, I just think most people complaining about those issues are stiff and use a retarded amount strength when playing with them lol Could be wrong, but I have never had playstation controllers go bad for me.

[@iJobama]

@@aztecdemon5975 it's a very common and well known issue that the potentiometers in both the PS4 dualshock and PS5 dual sense are complete ass. Most hardcore gamers will have drift and stick issues well before the warranty expires.

[@whyyn0tt.]

Anybody on the fence like I was, there's a limited deal on Amazon RIGHT NOW 5/12 that drops it to $135.99. The deal stacks with a promo they have going on, making it $111.99 before tax. 8-10 days shipping is the only downside.

[@killshot3331]

It shows the limited time deal but I don’t see the promo. They’re only $78 on Ali express with the same shipping time so I’m thinking that’s the way to go

[@whyyn0tt.]

@@killshot3331 good call, I'd heard aliexpress were cheaper, but wasn't sure about shipping time or return policy. Solid deal it sounds like!

[@killshot3331]

@@whyyn0tt. Amazon is probably the smartest but the tight-ass in me wants to save some money since it’s something I don’t need lol. Where do you see the promo to get it for $111.19? That would be the best of both worlds

[@huhSHUA]

So I’m guessing everyone is just waiting for another meta vid too huh

[@johnlitty6075]

😂 exactly

[@leoamaral2292]

Most trusted sorce !! Just bought it without hesitation. Your reputation proceeds you bro!

[@Kuriketto]

The trigger "stops" that can be set in software are due to the triggers having their own feedback mechanisms similar to the Dualsense's adaptive triggers. Pulling through the soft stop means you're overcoming the feedback motor's resistance.

[@hillbillyjustice8213]

If this had the ps layout and the 2 extra buttons like the scuff envision, it would be perfect. I LOVE those extra buttons and the PlayStation layout just feels better to me

[@david243121]

Just got mine in today. It's pretty nice. Coming from a powerA Fusion Pro. It feels pretty good.. still getting used to it. One thing I noticed which I really don't like, is when you have it set on Trigger Lock mode, and bring make the trigger pull pretty short - 10-30 range on the slider - it takes a significant pressing force to trigger a shot. It should trigger sooner. It's a bit of a bummer, and it makes it REALLY difficult to shoot a single fire pistol quickly. Makes playing COD kinda difficult. **** take this feedback with a grain of salt, as I've only been using the controller for about 2 hours.

[@TheParad0cks]

I have this controller and I'm having this same issue I can't win any drops if I don't find an AR

[@mrniceguyfrodo]

I bought a Gamesir G7 se 1000hz hall effect controller for my Xbox series x and it's a beauty. Only cost me €45

[@matthewlouk7239]

Love my game sir. I do wish the sticks were a little more resistive to movement!!

[@djabouty47]

Same. On PC I followed some GitHub link to rebind the share button to clip something with the Nvidia app. The experience has been great

[@jedirayden]

I will be looking into this, thanks for the tip!

[@mrniceguyfrodo]

@@matthewlouk7239 a little bit of calibration and you're set.

[@djambox1439]

@@mrniceguyfrodo calibration doesnt change the resistance of the spring though

[@Rudez1]

You have insane timing LOL I literally just bought a flydigi. Although the Vader 3 Pro model, still crazy you posted this lol.

[@Killabates_]

Loved the controller up until last night when the Left Stick broke, I had it set to medium tension. I am getting it replaced via Amazon but sure Hope it lasts longer than 2 months this time. I will try setting the Tension down to low to see if it lasts longer. Happy Gaming Everyone!

[@alfredobeten1989]

Wish they were PlayStation button layout styled

[@OGNinj]

I grew up on Xbox as well. I still play games on Xbox occasionally but mainly on PC now and I've been wary of third party controllers because the "feel" is always off to me. But I'm tired of throwing money away on Elite Series 2 controllers... Horrible stick drift out of the box and every single one I've owned has had one of the bumpers or triggers go bad (I'm on my fourth, plus two swap outs under warranty, so six). I appreciate your review! Hearing that it feels like an Xbox controller from an Xbox guy, plus the features and the price. I'm sold. Ordered.

[@colonperez91]

I have this controller, and in my honest opinion, it's the best Xbox controller I've used, I just hope they change the Trigger Locks to actually lock the triggers and not use tensions. But other than that, I love it 🔥

[@oscarnave]

Getting mine this next week, excited to put my hands on it 😄

[@SliCk_XP]

I know you mentioned it's own software came with it, but do you know if it will work with DS4Windows?

[@jacobm2625]

Scuf really dropped the ball with the envision not being hall effect. My guess is the next gen will have hall effect sticks, tho.

[@BlackJesus8463]

WTF were they thinking?

[@mouzz]

@@BlackJesus8463 money

[@TRiPPYDABS]

Yup! Facts I have that same controller and it’s suuuch a great controller however you can push past the trigger stops so I carfull drilled in my own trigger stops and now it’s an absolute beast

[@papasquatch2432]

Definitely might check this out. I use a elite series 2 now. Been with the series controllers since they first dropped.

[@dambros]

I wish this controller had the equivalent for console. It looks amazing and would be great having a cheap premium offer

[@boredbmxer8827]

Been rocking my Vader 3 for a year now. Love it!

[@AshX_human]

super nice review man, simple and on the point

[@espacho]

This controller is fantastic. It makes playing games even better.

[@great_Caligola]

You were on MnK too before u switched right? I mean I can completely understand that, given just how powerful AA is but its just kinda sad to see that there are almost no creators left who play MnK.

[@PewPewMike]

no S4 vids??

[@loganstrawberry]

I daily drive the Vader 3 Pro (also from FLYDIGI), and it’s a great option in the $50 to $100 range. It’s missing some of the customization features of the Apex, but the performance is top notch.

[@mikeernst8374]

The Dualsense Edge has a 1000 polling rate out of the box with no over clock.

[@NoXQc]

Ive been having issues with my Razer Wolverine V2 in the past two weeks and you release this video… yes it’s already purchased from aliexpress. 118$CAD is much cheaper than any other ‘premium’ controllers out there in Canada

[@ronjones3977]

Elite series 2 has ability to change stick tension ...pop off the sticks and you'll see a small Phillips screw the controller comes with a tool to adjust

[@snakie420]

Elite series has the best rear trigger button layout. The controller is absolute trash but that layout is legit! I’m hoping they make a series 3 with Hall effects joysticks

[@juanmiron2321]

best back buttons and my favorite controller still is the steam deck. idk I loved the wii u for whatever reason and it's the only thing with that form factor and they figured out back buttons perfectly. I mean any way you hold the thing you can either press the buttons or squeeze them to activate them depending on how you're holding the thing. I wish they could fit something like that into a normal controller. Or if I could figure out how to get those kind of adaptive triggers installed physically into my Steam Deck.

[@sternwardboss]

Overclocked Dual Shock 4 with claw grip and trigger stops is meta for me. Will never play with anything else on my PC

[@Spitsinbums]

Thanks tony

[@enigmuh]

All it needs is elite series 2 style paddles, and mouse click triggers

[@hoLMZ.]

I personally prefer the Gamesir g7 se. The thumbsticks are more accurate when making micro adjustments

[@MrTerduckin]

The lack of a hard stop on the triggers will teach you to aim better. It makes you relax your grip. Like you said you didnt even know you squeezed the controller that hard in gun fights. That superman grip is bad for fine aiming. This even applies to many other things like shooting a hqand gun accurately. When your grip is rigid, it is difficult to move your fingers with a high level of dexterity.

[@kaykay-rw5xi]

Just ordered an Aim controller with haul effect thumb sticks, it’s my second controller from them, also very good

[@khalil245]

I have the apex 3 specials edition it's exactly the same as apex 4 except for the adjustable stick tension and it's come with 3 differents sizes sticks and a whirls charger i have it for a year now and i can tell it's feels so premium it's the best controler i have played with, so durable

[@Hibanaiam]

Unless it's using a halleffect sensor for the joy sticks.It's gonna get stick fierce within six months if it doesn't have it out of the box

[@kylewoodruff3167]

literally all this controller is missing is m5 & m6 bumpers and it would be perfect.

[@bobbysinks6085]

Been playing with mine for 3 days and its the bomb ....... Best controller I have ever used

[@fredmacattack2393]

Give thumbs up for the honest at the beginning of the video

[@Arroncoot]

Too broke but enjoy the informative videos

[@igripsit5669]

🤣🤣i second these sentiments!!🤣

[@DtaCody]

Get up and work

[@igripsit5669]

@@DtaCody thanks man

[@Know3ody]

​@DtaCody as much as I agree....... the living cost at the moment (in UK anyway) is sooo high! I'm lucky enough to not be on minimum wage but if I was and had the same bills I wouldn't be able to afford 1 without saving. It's crazy high rent etc now over here.

[@cartoonsquirrel1]

You forgot to mention it’s mode switch feature right on controller you can switch from pc ,switch ,and phone

[@mz1929]

just bought the TB Stealth Ultra 3 days ago. not sure yet on it, its ok. biggest benefit for me so far is i have large hands, and its bigger than the Xbox Elite S2. Otherwise its kinda gimmicky or wasted cost. i dont need the dumb screen or RGB etc. lower the price to $150 and fix the sticks wear and tear.

[@dbwmotorsports8695]

Hall effect is a way to measure movement and has nothing to do with the haptic resistance of the triggers. Two completely separate things.

[@rad_alien]

I would instantly buy this if they had a version with a similar paddle layout to the elite series 2. I've been using the elite series 2 for 5 years now and have gotten used to using all 4 paddles at the same time

[@Datboylos]

I picked this up as soon as I saw art is war video on it glad I got it after cus videos on this controller are popping g up left and right now

[@yaroslavyarchee9906]

ArtIsWar, now you, they must be paying a good buck

[@maxvader1000]

he said no sponsor big dawg

[@sQuaTsiFieD]

or it is just a good controller and not very expensive? they make money from the video whether it is sponsored or not...

[@TrueGameData]

I wish, $0 and have had no contact with them. Just like it and trying to help people who may also like it

[@goat_gaming1158]

I’ve already seen a whole video on this controller a couple months ago I have the model one before this and it’s my favorite controller ever

[@jskate923]

“ You See I Got These Tiny Hands 🙌 😢 so i miss my ps4 controller & the ps5 controller to me just has that tad bit chunky feeling to me for when i play FPS for anything else i could care less the technology is amazing but the Elite2 controller just felt great when i held it. its got some weight on it but i love it and the stick layout never bothered me grew up playing both. and yea when i saw that first chart 📊 i was now wait tf a minute lol 😅 i just got my elite controller & this guy telling me it’s slow smh . . . P.S i only play games on my iPhone15ProMax i have no console or PC so yes 🙃 i got a elite controller just for CODM & WZM

[@snarlynx1]

Thank you so much for the info even at the expense of the algo

[@DellaMorte24]

No trigger stop is a hard no-go

[@BlackJesus8463]

Are they not hall effect triggers? The $40 Kaleid T4 has HE instant triggers.

[@hawks4life84]

Agreed. Wish it had mouse click triggers

[@YTDXN]

Sorry mate 0:24 told me it’s pc only I didn’t bother watching the rest 😂 but appreciate the openness

[@soghotze]

Just for the honest start I will watch this to the end. Even though I am MKB player.

[@AthleticFatKid]

I use a wired razor wolverine v2. $70 and so far has taken 3 years of solid abuse and daily gaming. Cant recommend it enough

[@clinto1012]

I run a wolverine tournament. Same thing, 3+ years and zero problems.

[@FirstOfHisNameSolaire]

The series 2 joysticks can be adjusted by using the key it comes with as well unless you mean it’s a better joystick adjustment.

[@thefalconrychef6660]

In all my years..I have to say the scuff envision pro is the best

[@BlackJesus8463]

Bruh, if China can put HE sticks, triggers and clicky buttons on a $40 controller then SCUF has no excuse.

[@itzdcx7991]

it's not just PC ONLY, People need to seriously STOP SAYING THAT🤦🏽‍♂️ Im literally able to use this on my Xbox and PS5 and Nintendo Switch and my Steamdeck it's all working just fine🙄

[@fcpchop88]

Personally, I liked the scuf envision better, preferred the back button layout much more. Returned the flydigi, to each their own.

[@dysennn]

got this controller yesterday. first day of using it i dropped it maybe half a meter onto my wood floor and the left stick roller ball thing snapped inside. gg

[@WaronsHot]

I managed to break mine without a week if they add hair triggers it would be perfect. I am currently running an flydigi vader 3 pro and overal its a better controller except ror the adjustable thumbstick tension and polling rate (500 vs 1000)

[@Phillipmamowfwifharts]

I just want a controller with the right thumbstick is swapped with the Face Buttons (ABXY). It is such a more comfortable position.

[@kanz7329]

what about the turtle beach one?

[@Justaduck-u3o]

Bought an Apex because of this video just to try it out. Showed up and couldnt charge it. Got the replacement pretty quick, it charged fine but when i went to use it, it had the worst stick drift ive ever seen. Got my 2nd replacement on wednesday, and the controller keeps shutting off after a few minutes. 160 well spent.

[@od813]

I just want a reliable controller with backbuttons idk why companies make overpriced products with cheap quality

[@EverSoPossiblyPat]

I really hope they make an update that adds console support. Controller seems awesome.

[@JamesWang-yh4es]

Great video Tony! Just ordered one from your recommendation. Which KontrolFreeks do you use?

[@TrueGameData]

I am 95% sure they are the Playstation kontrolfreeks, I bought them a long time ago though

[@robertopomar6886]

He uses a kontrol freek Galaxy Black version

[@vedo1661]

yo where are the meta-videos

[@playthatvibee]

I'm gonna buy it only because I think you're a genius and are full of knowledge

[@silencerstudent9381]

dude IVE BEEN WAITING SOOOOO LONG

[@BobbyHillGaming-]

Scuf Envision Pro is, in my opinion, the best option for Warzone due to being able to assign key strokes to any botton. I can literally have a dedicated bottom for everything since the Envision has 6 additional switches compared to 4. Not to mention the g keys that you can also assign different actions to.

[@phann42]

But you can do the same to this controller? Also the same on playstation controller through ds4

[@BobbyHillGaming-]

@phann42 I watched Art's video and learned you can also assign key strokes to the digi. However, you only get 4 additional switches. With the Envision, you get 6. I assign dedicated bottons for slide, jump, prone, reload, weapon swap/plate, and ping. Doing so, I can also have dedicated bottons for dive and interact with R3 and square.

[@phann42]

@@BobbyHillGaming- I also own the envision pro. Great controller but the software and input latency is what holds it back. Icue is such a pain to deal with it. I hope to see scuff improve on the software and not having the controller locked at 500hz

[@truthx7]

Gamesir se g7 can't be beat on price to performance.also,it's back padels are probably the most natural and tactical feeling than many controllers I've tried

[@Drewballer93]

thanks for letting us know that its only for pc right in the beginning

[@cudderlover1216]

The dual sense edge outta the box now is 1000hz without overclock. They had an update. And the Xbox controllers I'm pretty sure are 125hz cuz they're the same as the base controller

[@sepianights6707]

Thing is I understand what it does but 90% of gamers out there will not need so much even the ones playing at high Elo in games won't even see the point because that is reserved for a very very very small portion of humans that have 200ms and lower reaction time (less than 0.4%). Only them could see even a slight change especially at 144hz. Compared to most humans being at 340ms the 1ms would change shit. I know it's your living but shit I also gonna warn peoople not to spend 100"s on something that can't change shit.

[@wilmars5225]

Pc only didn't watch but left a like thanks dude it a real one for that

[@sonofgodraj]

For the scuf envision pro it feels better in your hand when you use your ring fingers for the paddles instead of your middle finger. It felt awkward when I tried my middle finger for them.

[@buddylee19082]

BattleBeaver needs to fix their wait times and get some HE pots asap or these smaller companies are gonna start thrashing them