I was NOT READY For Elyse's SAVAGE Rant on America's Next Top Model

Today I take a look at Elyse's rant from Cycle 1 of America's Next Top Model.
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[@Robin-ladybug]

I got the impression that Elise liked modeling more than she wanted to admit, so she continuously put the industry down. She seemed insecure about who she really was so she clung to her education to hide. She never became a doctor, but she did keep modeling for some time.

[@deliriumbubbles]

I agree. I think the clue is that she says she didn't think she did well, and her response is to tell herself she doesn't care. She cares. Why argue with yourself about how irrelevant it is? You could always just leave.

[@bebe44144]

I kinda of got that vibe as well, maybe growing up modeling was looked down upon in her family or something versus school/studies. Being studious and smart could of been a coping mechanism for her. I also wonder if there was some sort of tension that happened off camera for her to blow up like that, cause you know how these shows like to cut out context to fit their narrative. This is all just my theories and assumptions, cause I don't trust reality tv 😂

[@danaealexandrax]

she did all that and never became a doctor 😭

[@Emily-df9dk]

I thought so too! She seemed to only say she hated modeling when she thought she was bad at runway walking in ep 2

[@erinpilla]

It's kinda funny she shat on it but earned her dollars there

[@Lanzey]

Elyse just really wants to make sure that EVERYONE knows that she is NOT like the other girls 😂 How 2000’s of her 🌸

[@cheesecake134]

You must’ve missed Adrianne Curry’s whole thing that season then, huh? 😂

[@Lanzey]

@@cheesecake134 No, I've only seen her be chill and awkward in the episodes Jessica has reacted to - but I might have missed it. Let's just hope they've grown and matured since then 🤞 Ain't got time for that internalised misogyny - that can stay in the 2000's along with sperm-shaped eyebrows 🚮

[@cheesecake134]

@@Lanzey Oh god, Adrianne got red pilled and I’m so sorry to have to tell you that. Elyse retired from modeling, settled into a career, and got married and had a baby. One of them matured.

[@hankypanda]

@@cheesecake134 yep Adrienne literally says “I’m the only Tom boy here” and “the other girls are crying/complaining but look at me” etc. and the “why do they need black history month” she’s posted on MySpace, and transphobic talking points more recently + q anon nonsense she spews now is not ok. she also said someone should kill themselves for prank calling her in a hotel, totally the opposite of “chill”

[@Partycitybaex]

@@hankypanda omg I did not know that. She was also probably very traumatized by Tyra that she feels prejudiced towards black people now

[@_labacanitaz]

*THIS* is the Ms J I liked. Actually giving feedback that's constructive and "funny" in a good way. Not just mean one-liners TRYING to be "mean funny." _wish this act stayed the entire series...._ 😮‍💨😔

[@yennefer440]

The producers must have asked him to be more like his persona of being a diva.

[@underthegardenwall]

Miss J never changed imo. Like in cycle 16 when some of the girls won the fan meet challenge, they went to dinner with Ms Jay and he gave them super real advice. His "mean comments" were probably encouraged by production and editing since they literally pressured judges to say snappy things and also edited out nice comments when they WERE made. And considering almost every model from every single season still gushes about Miss Jay, I'm gonna put this on production and not him.

[@_labacanitaz]

@@underthegardenwall I can agree with you. But you also have to admit that production had some of these things to work with BECAUSE HE DID IT. so he's still somewhat responsible for what he's said and done even if it wasn't always from him directly. Just like I used to like Nigel but then realized the bad parts were still something he agreed to do and say. 🤷🏽‍♀️ But we can agree, we know for a fact production and Tyra caused most of this.

[@underthegardenwall]

@@_labacanitaz And that's totally fair. Like, Ms Jay pushing Danielle to close her tooth gap was one of his rare "wrong" moments, but at least I get the sense that that was his actual true opinion (as wrong as it was), whereas judges like Nigel constantly seemed to be mean to the models in order to please Tyra and production. Most of the judges caved to that bullying culture, whereas Ms Jay rarely seemed to. Don't get me wrong, he IS responsible for any wrongdoings he did, but I very rarely got the sense that he caved to production's demands or lost his morals in the process. Other judges did imo.

[@_labacanitaz]

@@underthegardenwall Agreed. I know this is off-topic but thankyou for just TALKING with me about this. It's very rare, sadly, that somewhat disagreeing views on the internet are taken to THAT level. You know the level I mean without even saying it. LOL I love just talking through things with someone. 😊💙 And we can both still agree , PRODUCTION is the main evil ones. At least DEFINITELY behind this show. I watched Jeanna (sp?) Turner's video and was in tears listening to how Tyra treated her and how production did. Absolutely disgusting.

[@CarboneCat]

The whole irony is that Elyse is the breakout model of this season. She did have a very successful modeling career.

[@anatolia0222]

Elyse is one of those judgemental people who thinks their way of thinking is the only right way. This is literally the type of doctor that I would hate to have because she's lacking in empathy and a basic understanding of people

[@zairnermuller4960]

Thankfully she never became a doctor. I never understood why she took so much pride about her "applying to medical school". She said as if she was already accepted. Anyone can apply, getting accepted it's the real deal.

[@skaio.5279]

@@zairnermuller4960 Nah the real deal starts after you get accepted ... I kinda feel bad for Elyse because it looks like she put her whole self worth in being perfect in every way, but it just made her bitter.

[@erinpilla]

I had a doctor who was judgmental against PLHIV. I was like girl you should know more than I do about the latest trends in HIV medicine and research ahhaha. Elyse would be that type of doctor and say she's "got an intellectual advantage" that's why she isn't in the patient's position

[@erinpilla]

@@zairnermuller4960 I dated someone in medical school. If Robin make Elyse cry over visiting a grave, then Elyse wouldn't go far even with her "intellectual advantage"

[@angiebrown2508]

I wanted to say that same thing

[@Fox35797]

Giselle was just there having a pleasant conversation, and then there's Elyse out there all like "dishonor on YOU, dishonor on your FAMILY, dishonor on your COW"

[@Echo-mg5em]

I think the reason Elyse’s doctor vs. model thing rubbed the others the wrong way was mainly because of her superior attitude. She so clearly thought she was above this industry, she’d be making fun of it while still doing it. A lot of them wondered why she wanted to be there if she hated it so much, it was like she was taking an opportunity away from someone. There’s nothing wrong with pursuing something for a short time (she knew that any modeling career she had would be finite because of the industry’s focus on youth); but constantly mocking the other girls for caring about beauty, fashion, etc. crossed a line. Truly smart people don’t need to constantly brag about their intelligence, or to demean others around them, and she was incredibly rude and condescending to her roommates and to a lot of the industry people she met.

[@littlejourneyseverywhere]

I absolutely 💯 agree.

[@marlyd]

Your comment made me reflect and maybe she was actually genuinely into it but terrified of 1 failing at something that isn't intellectual and 2 any backlash returning to college and having to deal with how her peers there would maybe judge her. That said, not an excuse to be an intellectual snob to the point of being downright rude, mean and condescending.

[@cheesecake134]

I mean they were also condescending to HER about wanting to be a doctor. Remember Miss Jay being all “that’s A LOT of work!” when she said she wanted to start medical school? It was like she just had some silly girlhood fantasy and hadn’t been actively working toward the goal for years. I also found it confusing and frustrating when the judges got snippy and told her she was being arrogant and talking down to them after explaining the benefit of classically feminine estrogen features in modeling. She IS an intelligent, educated person, so was she supposed to play dumb in that situation? It only bothered Tyra because she’s long convinced herself she’s the smartest in the room and hates any evidence to the contrary.

[@littlejourneyseverywhere]

@@cheesecake134 I also agree with you. They definitely were condescending to her acting like just because she was doing modeling meant that she couldn't do anything science-based. However, she was also pretty horrible to them in the way she spoke about them. Just because someone enjoys modeling over science-based careers doesn't mean that they also aren't intelligent or worthwhile in their career choice as well. It's definitely one of those situations where I think everyone is wrong. We've long established that Tyra's just an utter trash heap so she's just wrong. But as far as the rest of it goes, I think they're all in the wrong here

[@mellmurder]

She was above the industry tho.

[@hayunnie]

I hate when people think they're too clever for everyone around them. It's usually not true.

[@istvannejakab2705]

In this case it was.

[@marlyd]

I used to love Elyse because I was bookish person but as an adult, damn girl, if your'e so smart you should know there's a difference between educated/good at studying and intelligence.

[@Echo-mg5em]

Preach! 📣

[@kikibigbangfan3540]

Yass! People think, just because you are book smart that that makes you intelligent. It does not. Please say it louder for the people in the back! 💯

[@emmafischell622]

I'm also a bookish person, and maybe I'm projecting but I think that Elyse wasn't really saying those things because she believes them, but because she was feeling really alienated from the other girls and wanted to convince herself that she's not the one with a problem. I often catch myself doing the same thing if I'm in a group of people where I don't fit in and I can't get away.

[@marlyd]

@@emmafischell622 I was also thinking she'd be scared of the reactions of her peers going back to uni. But still not an excuse for the heinous things she said. You never call a person worthless.

[@erinpilla]

THIS IS ACCURATE! 💯💯💯

[@sighcantthinkofaname]

Elyse is the most entertaining thing about cycle 1, and she really was a pretty girl and a good model. But her personality was soooo immature. She put her identity in her intelligence, and I think all of her petty annoyances and insecurities about fitting in gave her this superior, too cool to care attitude. I also think the editing played up that part of her personality as much as they could.

[@erinpilla]

EBONY is the most entertaining thing about Cycle 1. When she disappeared, Robin had to take in the reins. Elyse was plain snarky

[@annienunyabiz6627]

You also gotta remember she was actively being harassed by Robin for being an atheist, and all the girls were being sleep deprived and starved to increase their inability to control their emotions. There's no telling how much production didn't bother to show everyone about how much Elyse was being needled by everyone and this is just the end result of a lot of pent up frustration coming out in an unhealthy way. Like, what happened right before hand that caused her to blow up? Were people messing with her again for being an atheist? Making more comments about her weight?

[@Lashid4u]

WHY was it okay for Elyse to be condescending and bishy, though (but NOT Robin)?

[@stephlyndsey3932]

I think Miss Jay's runway training was always a beneficial part of the show despite all the other ridiculousness going on, his part was very helpful and entertaining too!

[@ambsspence]

I love Miss J! I loved his book when I read it years ago too! 🤎🖤❤

[@falconinthedive]

Right? Like early seasons actually showed some skills. I learned how to do a smoky eye in the mid 00s from one of the early series.

[@underthegardenwall]

Miss Jay is literally the one and only judge who didn't get roasted by the models after the show. In fact, more than 100 ANTM models couldn't find enough nice things to say about him. Dude's a genuine guy, probably the only ANTM judge I still respect to this day.

[@ambsspence]

@rivermcandrew I definitely read Miss J's book, it's called Follow the Model.

[@Hiker2110]

Miss Jay is very intelligent actually.

[@DestructionGlitter]

You have to remember that in the early 2000s, any performance of femininity was considered vapid and unintelligent, and people who performed femininity were seen as inferior. I was a teenager at the time and experienced it first hand. I was affected by this and spoke like this myself, that was the social climate. Pick me culture, "not like other girls", "one of the boys", "too smart to like fashion". Those were all very real expressions of the anti-feminine trope. And to people who want to say "I grew up at the same time and wasn't like that!" - good for you. A lot of us were. Elyse's behavior wasn't bred in a vacuum. The early 2000s were the peak of internalized misogyny. Good thing we're passed that now.

[@hagathachristie]

Godm I remember those days lmao. Somehow girls were supposed to be "one of the boys" but still feminine and interested in boys enough to get approval but not be too over the top or you were an airhead. I do not miss being a teenage girl in the early to mid-2000s lmao. Edit to add: PLUS THE FASHIONS! I'm sorry but low rise hip huggers and too-small polos don't look good on anyone!!!

[@beckyweiss6072]

Hard disagree. I was in middle school in the early 2000s, the time when body insecurities really kick in for girls. The pressure to be a "glamour all star jock" was sky high. The pressure to start makeup, wear certain clothes, and above all, getting a boyfriend? That was all there. That lasted into the mid 2000s, which was high school for me. What happened was the *media* pushed for picture perfect femininity, while the general population began to cling to the "not like other girls" trope while simultaneously following the pressure . Now, the media is heavily into the "not like other girls" stuff, and in various communities I know of that claim they are feminist proceed to slam femininity both in general and when looking at various forms of media. Have you ever heard of Sansa Stark? The hatred for her in the game of thrones series and the book fandom (a song of ice and fire), is really really strong. And they slam her for being "vapid, only likes dresses and songs and tales of knights" with claims that she bullied her sister Arya, who starts out as the epitome of "Not like other girls," up to the point where she's legitimately a brat (she grows out of it but not in the healthiest way. But that's because her arc takes her down a dark path that's not entirely of her own doing). Internalized misogyny is very prevalent today. There's only one difference between then and now: People are starting to call out the "not like other girls" trope. People are starting to defend performances of femininity while still establishing you can be a tomboy or whatever you want to be. And it's really only around the Pandemic where I've started to see people fight back and sorta "switch the tables" on the whole "not like other girls" thing (ie: painting a very real picture of a girl that was never fond of sports and was drawn to makeup and fashion trends and high heels and good hair products).

[@FunFilmFare]

Also fans only started liking Sansa Stark in Season 6 when she stopped acting traditionally feminine and started waging battles, killing people, basically acting more like her sister Arya.

[@bulbasaur232]

Lol no. Never happened. "Performance of femininity" what even. Did a gen z highschooler write this?

[@gleidissantos5815]

​@@beckyweiss6072 Agree! there was this push for you to be the opposite of whatever was around you, cause if you lean too much into femininity and boys you could be tagged as easy and other horrible words. I also think Elyse's mindset came from a deep insecurity that she masked with "uninterest" and a "smarter than everyone around me" type of attitude. I wouldn't be surprised if looking back she regrets every word said here.

[@jazbarry13]

Elyse showing off all the empathy and compassion you'd expect a physician to have...😒👀

[@cheesecake134]

Yes, because how you behave when you’re 20 in one scene on a producer driven reality show is a FANTASTIC indicator of how you’ll behave in your career.

[@jazbarry13]

@@cheesecake134 But it IS an indicator nonetheless.

[@cheesecake134]

@@jazbarry13 No, it’s really not. Reality shows are not reality. They are real people but real people placed in extreme circumstances. I’m sure the producers saw she was frustrated and then baited Elyse with leading questions to get this rant. That’s how these shows are made. Making an assumption on someone’s character after seeing them in a reality show is naive and lame.

[@jazbarry13]

@@cheesecake134 I disagree with the statement that her behavior isn't an indicator of how she might handle her career. It shows that she can't control herself - whether she was baited or not. It shows that she has difficulty working well with others, regardless of this extreme circumstance; which, I might add, she could choose to walk away from at any moment. If her problems lie with the Producers, as your comment suggests, then taking out her frustrations in a tirade against the other contestants is an indicator of misplaced anger and aggression. None of these things are traits I'd look for when selecting a physician. My comment stands. By the way, I'm allowed to make whatever assumptions and judgments I like - just as you are. You're not the gatekeeper to people's opinions.

[@cheesecake134]

@@jazbarry13 You also have to remember Elyse was 20 at this time. I would really hate it if someone saw a clip of me at 20(again, on a heavily produced and edited reality show) and used it judge and make nasty assumptions about my character. I’m sure you would too. All I’m saying is a reality show is not a good indicator of how someone is in their personal life and to believe so is naive.

[@pickledpeaches7513]

The bit with Giselle being pissed that Elyse has the NERVE to want to pursue becoming a doctor was hilarious 😂

[@4pplesl1ces12]

It's because Elyse preaches the whole season about how she thinks all models are studid and how she's gonna be 'the first model with some intelligence' she acted like she hated the whole thing and joined as a joke. I don't blame Giselle, I don't like her either.

[@cheesecake134]

I will never get over her being like “I don’t want to piss off Giselle because she’s the only one in our room with a hair straightener” 😂

[@Bowiebonolennon1982]

Yeah. the NERVE OF HER! ;)

[@Yuri92001]

@@4pplesl1ces12 It's funny people are saying this though knowing what top model and Tyra ended up becoming. Is she really far off the mark by thinking she's too good for it? Many of the models were too good for this crap. .... And they weren't wrong for thinking it either

[@ii954]

@@Yuri92001honestly the more I see of her I think her approach was just off but she was right these challenges WERE stupid and she was understandably over dealing with Tyra and all the other shenanigans. Was she wrong for insulting everyone there? Yes. But she did have some points about the show being shallow and somewhat demeaning

[@anyawatchesmovies]

Elyse had a ton of internalized misogyny. I mean, this "i am so smarter than other girls, all they are talking about is just nails and make up" is so 15yo me. I hope, she grew out of this eventually.

[@lacey892]

I agree. Between talking about how ugly the dress was and how stupid the other girls were for talking about makeup or modeling... I remember feeling like I had to reject typically 'feminine' styles and hobbies if I wanted to be 'interesting' or whatever. I hope she got over that, too.

[@Jongen.]

This has nothing to do with misogyny. She is a woman herself.

[@anyawatchesmovies]

@@Jongen. omg, don't tell me you never heard about internalized misogyny...

[@anyawatchesmovies]

@@oasisofchange you're lucky, cause i don't know what vapidness means

[@juliannesmommy6694]

My views changed dramatically in sooo many things since I was 18. A lot of issues, I completely went 180 on after I had more life experience.

[@ImageToUphold]

Elyse was one of the contestants of ANTM who went on to have a long and lucrative career in modeling. She relished the travel and adventure it afforded her. She never went to medical school as far as I know. Elyse later gave an academic response to college students doing research on ANTM . She ultimately agreed with Jessica. Editing and production shaped narratives that made it easy for audiences to be entertained.

[@mellyyh]

It's funny that she ended up becoming one of the most successful models coming from ANTM. So she must have liked something about it haha.

[@monbebearmybird1239]

I mean being a model is way easier then being a doctor comparatively each has their own set of issues or setbacks. That’s why even though she talked down on it deep down she knew it was easier so chose modeling.

[@dearbangtan9668]

@@monbebearmybird1239 that's very very false lol these aren't professions that can be compared. modelling/acting without industry support is not easier than being a doctor and vice versa. i know society still views the arts as easier options when compared to sciences and commerce but we need to change that.

[@Naturefan354]

Yes the money and success is what she likes

[@mellyyh]

@@monbebearmybird1239 If anyone was beautiful and wanted to be a model then wouldn't a lot of them be more successful then? It is a skill after all, just like being good at medicine. Sure it is more school but some people are naturally good at that too.

[@Jess-Rabbit]

@@monbebearmybird1239 being a doctor isn't hard, thousands of complete idiot drug addicts can do it

[@ryntaylor7129]

I LOOOOOOOOVE this runway guy. He’s not tearing the girls down, he’s giving them useful advice and critique WHILE THEY WALK. He’s demonstrating what to do and what not to do. He’s FABULOUS❤❤❤❤

[@marlyd]

Miss J?

[@siribaimusic]

Miss J also says that Elise is good because of her body. No one can help their body. I think it’s a gross attitude and lazy fashion copout

[@aarondavis2258]

@@siribaimusic That's the reality of the industry however. Literally any casting director or designer would say, "I would book them because of their body." It's not the only factor, but it's reality. Your body & your face is determinative if you book certain jobs.

[@anasdomain9994]

Miss j ain’t that nice in judging tho lol

[@ashk7280]

This was like a rare nice moment lol

[@Laramaria2]

Some photo shoots I think you would like to react to: Cycle 5 - Pin-up; Cycle 8- Girls covered in candy; Cycle 9 - flowers and plants; Cycle 10 - music genre; Cycle 11 - eyes underwater; Cycle 14- blue perfume; Cycle 19- Steam punk; Cycle 21 - Ice royalty; Cycle 21 - sci-fi genetic; Cycle 22- bound by love.

[@xm2895]

Yes the girls covered in candy was very good

[@Laramaria2]

@Jan Paolo Cartel Canteras I kinda thought it would be interesting for her to react because of the photos and Victoria being all over Twiggy's comments BUT GOD YEAH, there was so much more 😱

[@c.h.f4155]

Yea! I can’t wait for her to react to photo shoots with the guy competitors

[@winterdreambell]

She already reacted to blue perfume I think

[@Laramaria2]

@@winterdreambell indeed... I forgot about that 🤣 I think because what stuck with me was her reaction to the challenge 🤭

[@Heroesfullyalive]

It seemed through the seasons that if the models had ANY desires in life other than modeling and fashion related they were put down and eliminated...

[@kameryn2918]

Exactly! It makes sense to have a plan B because everyone doesn’t make it and it’s okay to have more than one interest lol.

[@purplemonkey9575]

not even that poor little pink dress was safe from Elyse lmao

[@MuzzyBarker]

She really pulled out the "church fashion show" as a "don't" in her first season, and then made a whole challenge about it later.

[@CinnastixChick]

I love how whenever someone mentions 90s supermodels they always mention Naomi Campbell and Kate Moss but rarely include Tyra. I bet that really bothers her 😂

[@jaydamay6815]

I loved Elyse’s rant pt 2 when they went on a carriage ride or something later on & one of the men asked her what she thought about the other girls 😭😭😭 she had something bad to say about everybody but when it came to Kesse she was like “I actually really like Kesse , I don’t have a problem w/her at all” LMFAOOOOO

[@erinpilla]

CAP Beau Quillian said Kesse had to be sent home because Elyse said she was baby Tyra and was gonna win 😂😂

[@ShinyJess1940]

I don’t think anyone who really wants to be a doctor wastes a year on reality TV or modeling in Hong Kong. When Elyse didn't win ANTM, I thought she was going to med school. but what did she do? She signed with an agency and left the country instead of enrolling in school. Plus she got in trouble with the law when she abused her boyfriend.Girl bye.

[@angelicapineiro1804]

I mean, they get paid and get exposure, that's 2 reasons.

[@Jess-Rabbit]

Its funny seeing Elyse actually this way knowing that she went on to have one of the best modeling careers post-ANTM I guess she did like it

[@taif21981]

Honestly though. She was huge in Hong Kong I believe.

[@rachzainhass]

She called Giselle the c-word worthless and her parents should be ashamed. Outright cursing her. Hell yes she went too far.

[@me_ow5662]

Tyra - find your style Also Tyra - Your style is not what I want

[@princesslea864]

Elyse kinda acts like she joined ANTM because she lost a bet or something lol. Or she enjoys modeling but has the need to put others down and point out how much smarter she is because she is like "I'm not like the other modeling girls".

[@Bianca_Toeps]

She joined a show that didn't exist yet, because there was a scouting booth in her local mall, and she was there with her boyfriend and did it to make him laugh. She never expected it to become anything, but then was invited to NY and she was like: sure, free trip to NY, let's see what this is all about. If you then end up in such a wild circus, being an introvert, but also a perfectionist who doesn't want to give up...

[@mnemos_]

I think Elyse's reaction is better understood within the context of the other episodes of that cycle. A lot of Robin's behavior towards her throughout the show looked like passive-aggressive~barely hidden bullying. People (contestants, judges and probably behind the scenes producers too) kept pushing this narrative on her that she should want it differently, pick only fashion over everything else, be thankful to be here without ever being critical of anything or feeling negative emotions, etc.. She was away from her family/friends/boyfriend for a while and didn't really connect with anyone (until much much later) on the show and was basically all alone. You can see the beginning of a shift in her behavior once they let her see her boyfriend. They're also 10 very very young barely adult women living all over each other under the same roof. All of this generates a lot of tension, stress, and Elyse's reaction to this is cynicism and irony. I'm honestly not surprised she snapped and feel bad for her even if I do not think the things she said were fair or respectful. Edit : Also it's not abnormal to have doubts. Most of us have moments where we feel so defeated we don't even know or feel like we want something anymore. Edit 2 : And I remember she was constantly being questioned about her body and weight, then contestants and judges would make wild assumptions about her having an eating disorder when it wasn't the case. That's not pleasant things to deal with.

[@kherise]

Ok but this was episode 2. It was tricky editing or how do you actually explain this over the top rage of hers if the show only started ?

[@mnemos_]

@@kherise Robin, other contestants, the judges and as I said probably also the producers behind the scenes, were already pushing these narratives on her, and the first time she got weird comments on her body was the very first episode with the bikini shot. The reaction vid isn't the complete episode and earlier in episode 2 Robin was behaving like a bully with her because Elyse doesn't share her religion. And they literally are 9 (in this episode) people barely out of teenagehood living in shared rooms. Also I'm not excusing what she says at all, there's just more context than only arrogance that could lead to her snapping in the confessionals. It's built up frustration, stress and anger coming all at once since she choses not to confront the other girls and start arguments. Everyone gets mad or frustrated and people aren't constantly behaving in the fairest way. It's easy for us to judge and condemn her with the distance we have on the situation as a viewership, but she was living this irl and you don't always have hindsight and composure when you're under pressure. I'm not saying she's exempt from all criticism, just that extracts from only one episode aren't sufficient to fully grasp what is going on here.

[@kherise]

@@mnemos_ I agree we don’t have the full context and she was surely triggered by many issues, personally what annoyed me the most was her ongoing bragging about how she was more intelligent than the other girls and the overall more offensive attitude. And as you’ve said, other than having them living together, their young age is also a definitive factor in whatever conflict they had.

[@FernwoodGirl]

I agree to all of this- we also have to remember this was the super early days of reality competition tv. I think people are was more savvy now about how they’ll be portrayed and how it could affect them after the show ends.

[@CarboneCat]

You guys basically nailed it.

[@moonlight_mylk]

Me when Elyse started ranting: Ma'am, this is a Wendy's

[@Espressoself96]

All I keep thinking is that saying: hurt people hurt other people. Her rant and the things she said definitely weren't okay, but also she felt completely alienated from everyone else. So it's not surprising. She probably didn't mean the things she said

[@jorainaleite3194]

Not y’all making excuses for elyse calling others worthless. Like whoooo tf are you elyseeeee?!? And you want to be a doctor and care for others with an attitude like that?!?

[@sixlikesgore7503]

she really reminds me of that one kid in school that did everything they could to shut themselves out and be edgy. like would it kill you just to communicate how you feel? not everyone is going to be on the same page as you, but if you don't even attempt to let them know how their actions effect you and you just bottle up that negative emotion, it's only going to result in disaster. elyse really seems to thrive on this "i'm being tormented in this dark world" mentality.

[@ii954]

In all fairness those kids often are tormented IRL by people who actively make them feel like outsiders on a regular basis through bullying and other forms of mistreatment so it’s not like they’re just like that out of nowhere, it’s understandable for someone who has endured a certain amount of trauma over several years to be at least somewhat distrusting of others but Elyse is different because she willingly came on a show called America’s Next Top Model to say how much she hates modeling.

[@ii954]

Also those kids do oftentimes say how they feel? Is t that usually why they end up getting ostracized in the first place?

[@sixlikesgore7503]

@@ii954 no, they don’t, not the ones i’m talking about. they think everyone is supposed to magically know their thoughts and feelings and then get their panties in a bunch when no one does.

[@santefeaster460]

I remember Giselle being really insecure due to her mom belittling her, she said her mom was going to throw it in her face when she was eliminated. It showed but I felt like the judges shamed her instead of actually helping her build her self esteem.

[@MPJ51516]

Your advice section had me DYING.

[@matthewturcotte5079]

Katie said she wanted to do acting and TV after the show was over. She ended up being one of the briefcase girls on Deal or No Deal, so she kind of got her wish. And what happened with Elyse was probably a build up of stress that just came out. Doesn’t excuse what she said, but it may explain why she said it the way she did. Frankly, if I had someone like Robin use Bible passages to attack my own character, I’d probably go off too.

[@cikponti4879]

Thank you for uploading these reaction videos. Like it so far.

[@LittlePotatoRoll]

Jessica never quesion your comedic instinct. You are hands down one of the funniest youtubers of all time. "A doctor..? You wanna save lives? What, you're e gonna give medical advice?" 😂💀

[@just5two163]

The plus-size thing is that they tried to break a mold when the industry was about all skinny people. So they used to cast at least one plus-size girl every season. It is bad that they identified her every minute as "the plus-size", but again, this was shot many years ago, when these were something new for the fashion industry. It is like the current years when people say something like "this is my gay friend", and stuff like that. People do not need to bring up these facts every minute.

[@Echo-mg5em]

Robin was definitely controversial, but I love her conviction and her confidence. She didn’t let any of the higher-ups pressure her into doing something she didn’t want to: she and Shannon were right to not let Jay or the judges shame them for not doing the nude photoshoot, there’s nothing empowering about a woman being bullied into taking off her clothes. And whenever the fashion people said there was no market for plus-sized models in high fashion, she just clapped back that they had better get ready to make room for her.

[@TheBadbitch27]

Not for nothing if you are actually into fashion you would have seen most of the top models tits because brands make you and it’s apart of displaying clothes. If they don’t like they should go for catalog. It’s just the high fashion industry

[@BB-fk1mc]

You hang out with people who introduce their friends as "my gay friend" ? Doesn't seem like a good friend

[@fayej6591]

The way Elyse was at this time in her life, she had the wrong temperament to be a good doctor. She did come off as the stereotypical arrogant surgeon, but that really doesn’t fly in this day and age. Perhaps she has grown and matured and would be a better candidate now, who knows? But it looks like her life took a path away from Medicine.

[@thedrunkenelf]

When Elyse got eliminated for acting above the competition she said something like “they said I think I’m better than everyone else, and they’re right” lol 😂 I love Elyse. Funny enough she has a very successful modeling career in Asia before going into the technology profession, so maybe she didn’t hate modeling as much as she claimed.

[@SassyCactus86]

It also could have been the way it was edited. We’re shown what they want us to see.

[@Bianca_Toeps]

In her book she said that real-life modeling is not at all like top model, so she liked it much more. She stayed snarky though, her blogs were hilarious. I think the snarkyness is the best attitude when it comes to the modeling world, that takes itself waaay too serious.

[@spiceupyourlife7755]

You probably have the same attitude as Elyse

[@sashatheelf]

@@Bianca_Toeps Heyyy, someone else who used to read Elyse's blog!

[@smji5269]

For someone who claims is smarter than everyone else, one would wonder why she couldn't become a doctor.

[@brokeandnamelessnyc]

It’s even more funny that she hates the industry because she ended up having the most success as a model from this season.

[@tobikio]

@River McAndrew nope LOL she never became a doctor

[@rebeccagibson3145]

You should react to the Cycle 8 episode where the girls pose with ice cream and Brittany gets frostbite.

[@syedmazharhasan6803]

It was Cassandra, not Brittany

[@kevlow9494]

@@syedmazharhasan6803 Oh damn I forgot about that

[@ryanb9304]

👏🏽 right!🙄

[@anthonyclayton8051]

Brittany did have that bad weave which started to irritate her scalp

[@JessicaKobeissi]

I reacted to that yesterday but I didn't see where she got frostbite? Can you let me know what episode / time stamp it is? Thank you!

[@theshakyproject2971]

"Personally, I love bears. I don't want to spray bears in the face." I don't know why but this made me laugh, harder than it probably should have. :)

[@yay_danae_nae27]

That whole little rant was cute lol she cracks me up! 🤭

[@darkslayer709]

@@yay_danae_nae27 her comment about chocolate too. I’m from the UK and I really don’t like how American chocolate tastes, haha. She’s right, it IS different.

[@tocallopr]

Not Jessica agreeing with Mr. J on not “being tight in the booty”...I’m dying!! 😆😆💀

[@tdylan1383]

Elise says she’s an atheist and Robyn pushes Bible verses on her. She says she is interested in med school, she gets picked at for it. By the captions, it seems J inferred she only wanted it because her boyf is a doctor. Then to top it off, she’s in a house with strangers she has nothing in common with (who later talk behind her back about her supposedly having an ED). It’s understandable that Elise may have just snapped.

[@ForceFreeTrainergirl06]

I absolutely agree with you. I'd think they were definitely vapid and empty conversations. All these girls are so young, have had no life experience and really hardly any education from the sound of it. I'm an agnostic and if someone I had to live with was pushing bible verses at me, I think I'd probably end up pushing some of those verses where the sun doesn't shine, at the end of the day. I can completely see Elyse's frustration. But what I don't understand is why she didn't just go home. I understand that the episodes aren't necessarily filmed in order, but as soon as she realised that this really wasn't for her, just go home. What's lose? Go to medical school and do that instead.

[@lunachopin69420]

Yeah “later” they talk behind her back - I wonder when this confessional was actually filmed in the timeline of reality? 🤔

[@darkslayer709]

@@ForceFreeTrainergirl06 I think she did want it, but she was struggling. She said it herself, she isn’t used to performing poorly and I think she was struggling with the idea she might not be good enough. After the show she went on to have a successful modelling career and later in the season she does warm up and admit she does want to model, so I think a lot of the early episodes were bravado.

[@charissabihl1731]

The producers must have done something to prompt this tirade from Elyse. However, I’m sure they were delighted when they got more for their efforts than they ever dreamed possible.

[@ranga1cat]

Being older I understand Elyse’s reaction to not wanting to be a model better than I did when I watched it as a youth. She even said herself she isn’t used to under performing or not performing well. She did what I (and a lot of self proclaimed perfectionist/high achievers) do and that’s reject something before it rejects her. It was definitely a defensive reaction to feeling inadequate. Also I think she was an introvert thrust into a highly social environment with no escape. That rant was probably her stressed and tired and at her worst but we’ve all had those moments, they just weren’t televised.

[@Jessica-go6cy]

Miss J Alexander; “Some of you are walking, too tight in the booty”, “Walk like it’s for sale, and the rent is due tonight”, Miss J was really bestowed, some pearls of wisdom today.

[@adrianops7]

ONLY you to get me to watch these episodes of ANTM without crying for those girls...

[@rosesarered2285]

Tyra “Only I can judge! Get your own style” 😂

[@Mary-Contrary]

omg the music change lol amazing!

[@VenenumRosa]

I believe things happened behind camera, which built up the resentment and anger in Elise. There were clearly some clashes during the day, or even a week between the girls, which lead up to this blow up. Thing Elise said we're hurtful, there's no denying that, but there had to be a reason why she went that far.

[@cheesecake134]

The fact she didn’t fly into a violent rage the *second* Robyn showed her that Bible verse proves she has more restraint than me. 😂 People in the comments really want to hate on Elyse but are forgetting the absolute horrendous behavior of Miss Robyn that season. She was a bully to Elyse, full stop.

[@yulana990]

@@cheesecake134 Yes this! The bible verse scene was BEYOND disgusting and straight up bullying. What Elyse said was disgusting, but I'd say a 1x breakdown backstage to a camera is less bad then someone actively bullying someone through the WHOLE season for not being Christian. Elyse certainly had a superiority complex to a certain point, but so did Robin in her own religious way, and hers was openly toxic. Plus we had Elyse in ep1 being told her body is super skinny by other girls, have rumours spread online that she might have an ED, get judged by Adrienne in this episode in the car for not responding when she had headphones on. They really did not like her, so I wouldnt be shocked if there was even more we didn't see. I'm not even a huge fan of Elyse, but the hate she got at some point all whilst Robin got away with it, possibly since at the time more people were Christian, was ridiculous. I'd rather be in a room with an Elyse talking smack about me to a camera, then a Robin spend a whole season bullying me in my face and making sure I KNOW about it, sheesh.

[@bellaboomz]

“What- you’re gonna save LIVES? What’re u gonna do- give MEDICAL ADVICE??!!” 💀💀😂😂😂😂😂 Jessica, I can’t with you!! 😂😂❤

[@BabvBlues]

I love your channel so much! Thanks for putting time and effort for us!

[@Heart_rachel]

I really enjoyed Elyse on the show when it was originally airing, it seemed like she was the most honest person about what was really going on. Now, I definitely see that she was clearly insecure and doing a very reject-you-before-you-reject-me kind of thing, but I still feel like at least she was honest about how she was feeling. 😂

[@pinklori13]

Jay: What do you want to do after this? Jess: Eat ! Lmao me too girl me too!

[@abistoxks]

I could watch your videos forever! Love this channel

[@antoncannon7279]

I LIVE for your level of sarcasm!! 🤣🤣🙌🏼🤗🥰

[@cd55896]

Season 1 was ICONIC! Elyse, Ebony, Robin and Adrienne came out with some of the best lines in antm history. You really should just react to the whole season. 🤣

[@Echo-mg5em]

Ebony making eye contact with the camera is everything 🙌

[@erinpilla]

"I saw then shimmy go round and round!"

[@alisonb1673]

@@erinpilla I love it when robin was saying prayer ebony give the look to camera i always cracked up laughing

[@erinpilla]

@@alisonb1673 "this is a competition. this is not a sorority!" lol

[@alisonb1673]

Hahaha 😂

[@angiJ]

I was so amped for this video that I even got out of bed to put my glasses on

[@GLamoRousCooKie]

She gives me gay vibes and as a queer woman (lesbian, and also ironically enough, a doctor) I'm ashamed to admit I went through a "not like other girls", internalised misogyny phase myself, as a young girl. It's a combination of society's blatant misogyny being imprinted on one's psyche and genuinely not fitting in with other girls due to my queerness. It's a shame so many young women go through this phase and it's blatant evidence of the patriarchal society we live in.

[@alliemarie2005]

I mean I’ve always thought her rant was hilarious but yes, she went too far and too personal. She might’ve been smarter than the other girls, but it takes a really insecure person to say it all the time. And it was obvious she was insecure about the runway work, so she immediately went into “yeah well I’m smarter than you”. Also, she was in a modeling competition/reality tv show. What did she expect these late teens-early 20s girls to talk about? Noam Chomsky? Edit: her comment about Adrienne quoting Jay and Silent Bob though 😂 🔥 I would’ve lost it too

[@erinpilla]

Well Ginselle didn't have good things to say about Elyse hahahaha

[@gemstar7286]

WOW she really went on a epic rant 🤣😶.

[@valezZzz81]

Her superiority complex is quite loud. It's alright hunty....the feelings are mutual.

[@kztwitter]

as i have followed her, watched adrianne and shannon’s insta live, other people on reddit and some info from luxeria, i have concluded for myself - she is just book smart and zero street smart

[@matchapatissiere5146]

The funny thing is that Elyse ended up being the most successful model on her cycle when she talks bad about modelling 😂

[@ckilbarger01]

I mean it's the first season. Elyse, along with all the other women, definitely didn't know what the show would be like. Maybe she did have real aspirations to model beforehand but the show just killed that passion

[@JasmineTea127]

These girls are under severe stress, pitted against each-other and starving themselves. I’m not surprised they’re so often at each other’s throats.

[@erinpilla]

Oh yeah Robin drove Elyse to tears!

[@cherishisgrace]

The fact that people can't decipher when someone one is being honest and real; to someone be rude and carrying a, "I'm better than you attitude" is concerning. There is nothing real about sitting in a confessional talking about other individuals, if Elyse was so real, she would have had a conversation with the very people she has an issue with. Please stop with the, she is the most successful, and, that doesn't take away the nastiness she displayed in this video. Being self proclaimed intelligent doesn't give you a Segway to being nasty to someone, and people think it's cute to say they act that way, all I'm going to say is you know who to do it to lol.

[@kimsteele2601]

THANK YOU! I've been waiting for you to cover this! Elyse is my all time favorite.

[@ms.wilson6439]

The music edit is HILARIOUS.

[@miguelangelpacheco8673]

The music you put over the runway 💀💀💀💀🤣

[@Vinkalu21]

If Elyse was a doctor…she shouldn’t be. Awful tableside manners. Not in it for helping people. Clearly she is not the empathetic kind. She would be the kind liable for malpractice.

[@spencera9229]

i remember watching that rant for the first time during quaratine and my face was little just :O

[@susanjohnson6276]

I would NOT like to be Tyra..Jessica does the BEST reactions to this show. Highly intelligent and funny.

[@hisimage85]

You crack me UP Jess!!🤣🤣🤣

[@KeepingItReal66441]

I don't know what Elyse was expecting from ANTM. Was she expecting conversations that had nothing to do with modeling...in a modeling competition? It wouldn't be so bad if her disdain for the other girls wasn't so visceral, and honestly, unwarranted. Like we 2 episodes in...who has done enough to you to make you feel this strongly in that short period of time? Did she ever stop to think, maybe she was the issue? Naw, ppl like that never do lol

[@winterdreambell]

Remember that this is a reality show, there's definitely more that happened off screen the producers definitely stirred something up.

[@kameryn2918]

@@winterdreambell right but in just two days what could possibly happen that you write somebody off as wasteful and stupid?? If I was in this competition I would be too busy still learning people’s names by day 2. Like no emotionally healthy person should feel this much hate for someone they just met.

[@KeepingItReal66441]

@@winterdreambell there usually is, yes, but these contestants have the option to take the bait or not. And even if she fell for it, she legit overdid it. She called a girl she knew a c***. Like, sheez lol

[@winterdreambell]

@@KeepingItReal66441 Tbh judging how the other girls treated her in later episodes I don't feel really bad about the rant.. like I think she's right y'all 😶😭

[@cael_aj]

I don't really get the people in the comments saying they loved Elyse. At least from this episode it seems like she has such a superiority complex and is making herself out to be the outcast when it seems like the girls were trying to include her in conversations, she just thought she was too smart for those conversations. I hate that kind of attitude. My favorite that season from what I remember was Adrienne. She seemed very chill and funny.

[@ChulipsChu]

Tbh it's not the first time I've seen this Elyse's rant but I get the feeling that she was tired to constantly be around people. This rant felt kind of like when I lash out because I just want to be left alone and I can't so I'll lash out so that the person that won't leave will leave. But I guess she didn't want to have an even worse relationship with the girls she still has to share living space with (that already were jealous because she got judges compliments and to them didn't seems invested in a career because she had a plan B. So the tension was high) so she vented to the camera. Also it IS the only time we see her do that, which support my theory that it was venting. So yeah I'm not defending what she said because she probably meant them and they're pretty harsh (except Robin's because pushing religion on someone is just a big no no). But I get a feeling of why she lashed out and it was probably the healthiest way to do it (since she didn't lash out at one of the girls). Anyway Elyse IS the most entertaining part of this season by far so of course we love to watch her 😂

[@darkslayer709]

@@ChulipsChu I agree. Elyse turned out to be one of the nicest girls of the season and really flourished when there were fewer people around. She also wasn’t wrong, J did belittle her intelligence and ambitions of being a doctor, Robin constantly pushed her religion onto her and several of the other girls bullied her. I think what happened was she was feeling insecure both because she actually enjoyed modelling and because she didn’t consider herself very good at it and she strikes me as an introverted person. Being confined in a small space with multiple people you don’t know and have nothing in common with you who all talk over you because you’re quiet with no means of escape is hell. In the end she snapped, went somewhere private (for all we know the camera room was the only place she could get some time to herself) and just vented. She didn’t say bad things about everyone and the girls she did we know bullied her.

[@MK-gv1wd]

Elyse was a great model but was pretty damn toxic. But toxic in a “she’s young and thinks she’s smarter than everyone in the room” way. Everyone talks about Elyse’s comments to Robin. But the other comments are awful.

[@4pplesl1ces12]

The amount of people talking about how much they love her and how iconic she is is concerning, she literally deserves no praise imo

[@gabrielaencina3246]

@@4pplesl1ces12 agreed! Listen I was quite a ball of negativity when I was a teen so I can relate to elyse. But her attitude is terrible! Gives me flashbacks to my younger self thinking I was better than everyone else. I’m sure she is smart but she was not humble or nice during the time she was on ANTM

[@Lashid4u]

Elyse was the MEANEST and most condescending of her season, always talking ish, and putting down the other girls ...Yet, Robin is considered the "bad guy" (or "mean girl") of the season. I guess such behavior is overlooked if you're non-black, an atheist, and talk all of your ish behind a curtain (instead of more directly to people, as Robin was more likely to do).

[@beckycovey2225]

Now I may be aging myself here, but Is it just me who gets the vibe of windows media player visualiser playing on the projector in the background of the catwalk.

[@melissadixon4075]

Same! 😆

[@SoulStyleBeauty]

I’m dying laughing on my lunch break, thanks to you 😂!!!!

[@sprengertrinker]

Miss Jay was the only redeemable judge on that show.

[@DrGregoryHouseIT]

Elyse went all 'Dishonor On Your Cow' unprovoked!

[@EspookyV]

Well the producers definitely got what they wanted

[@Fernanda-cn9jd]

Girl, I missed your antm videos you never fail to crack me up!! Put em on blast every time I love it 😂🤣

[@anasdomain9994]

Omg Jessica I have the same notebook 😂

[@Humanoidfrenzzy]

I get the impression she was raised in very different social circles with very different standards, she holds the other girls to those standards, and when they're "lacking" she condemns them. I think she does like modelling, but that's a stigmatised thing for her to like, so again she lashes out at the others, they don't have that stigma, they don't restrain themselves, so they're wrong. She says she's alienated by the others, I get the impression thar she doesn't understand the other girls, and can't connect to them, so she shields herself by claiming everyone, and everything is beneath her. She's not failing or not achieving, everything and everyone is stupid and a waste of time. A very teenage mindset. I wasn't surprised at her rant, we could sort of see it brewing, was it okay to say? No. She should've written it down, then burnt it afterwards. I'm sure she would grow out of it quite quickly she seems to be resenting herself just as much as the other girls in these clips, things like these tend to sort themselves out with time.

[@ripewickedplum]

Love the windows 95 screen saver as a back drop during the runway teach

[@alisonb1673]

the frist season was so thrown together i love it

[@cerisejaxel9636]

This season had me hooked when I first watched a few years ago! I loved the eventual friendship between Elyse and Adrianne and how they ended up including Shannon later too. Was sweet to see after all of the drama in the earlier episodes. Was sad to hear that it didn’t last after the show though.

[@alisonb1673]

yeah but elyse screwed over adrianne that was the end of there friendship

[@cerisejaxel9636]

@@alisonb1673 Exactly. Like I said, sad it didn’t last. :)

[@klassicalmuzik]

I don’t get all the fawning over Elyse. She is kind of a narcissist with her whole “I’m smarter than the other girls”

[@kellyspryszak80]

Elyse ended up being one of the more successful high fashion models from the show. I used to follow her live journal and read about all her travels and also her issues with her abusive rockstar boyfriend. She could have been her own show honestly

[@mjbeam1492]

In later interviews, the season one cast have stated they were not given enough food and kept awake to help create drama and "hangry" models. I think I remember someone suggesting that this was why elyse was extra crabby and went off.

[@annienunyabiz6627]

She even says later in this episode that she finally got a good night's sleep AFTER the rant. So, yeah. Also she was actively being harassed by at least Robin for being an atheist.

[@treedragonfarm]

When I was a teen/kid originally watching this episode I remember thinking, wow that rant was really uncalled for. Now as a disgruntled adult watching this back with you, I'm like, I'd be saying the same damn thing to that camera lol ain't nobody got time for passive aggressive Bible quotes and "ThAT'S a LOt oF wOrK"

[@ShinG93]

The squeaky voice reaction to the girl wanting to be a doctor was hilarious!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 love your videos 🥰❤️✌🏾

[@tgardner11]

I'm sure I'm in the minority but I loved Elyse then & I love her now, I found the girls on her cycle to be pretty awful, compared to many other seasons and while I do see how Elyse's attitude & this rant would paint her in a bad light but I mostly believe she was letting out steam & that she really got a raw deal from the others throughout her season. Between Robin constantly bringing up religion to her (knowing she was an atheist) and even asking her to read a bible verse about how foolish nonbelievers are, and then the others alleging that she had an eating disorder and bringing it up at panel and constantly trying to make her feel bad for being an academic--I still think she came off better than most would. I personally find her relatable as hell and I used to love her blog.

[@sarahhanratty3006]

Elise wanted to win for the money for medical school.

[@sarahs819]

She actually went off to have a very successful career in modeling after the show ended

[@sarahhanratty3006]

She was successful in Hong Kong. That’s great for her; I’m truly surprised she made it “big” anywhere with her horrible, baseless rhetoric.

[@yennefer440]

@@sarahs819 Yeah in Hong Kong I think. She also never went to medical school, I think that's the reason why she was defensive about it. Because she felt like she couldn't actually do it.

[@juliannesmommy6694]

This video led to a Google search which led to a Reddit talking about the rant. Haha. It made so much more sense with context. But I also saw some photos she took after and about how successful she was. Her post show photos were sooooo good!!

[@Victoria-dh9vb]

Models HAVE to have career plans for beyond their modeling career. Typically they stop making enough money to support themselves with modeling by the time they enter their 30's. It's naive to believe to assume that you'll be able to make a living modeling up until you're retirement aged.