Jesus Abolished Slavery! (SPOILER ALERT: No, He Didn't) | Talk Heathen: Throwback

[@sampeeps3371]

Slavery was abolished in spite of the bible.

[@porkyboy4226]

The British I recall!

[@stephenhill8790]

Correct, but certain groups seem to be ignoring it 🧐

[@N090UGY]

I’d say if the Christian’s only believed in the New Testament they could somewhat justify this. However this is not the case.

[@KGP221]

We don't have any words written down by Jesus, which is the worst example of record keeping for the creator of a universe.

[@bobby9192]

Could have atleast put in on a floppy disc

[@kasocool2812]

I have to host meetings as part of my job and if I don't take notes or record the call I've forgotten like 95% of what was discussed by the end of the week.

[@mwarren7436]

How dismal it is to see present day Americans yearning for the very orthodoxy that their country was founded to escape.

[@margeryk000]

This caller was Canadian. Just sayin......

[@ARoll925]

Charles is a dishonest liar, and I'm pretty sure he has also called into the show as Rick as well, chuck is a great example of what religion can do to a person's mind, so f-ed up

[@michaelkenny8540]

For sure a regular caller

[@AdmiralBison]

"dishonest liar" is kinda redundant. It's like "Honest truth" Just sayin'😋

[@Rage867]

This tool calls in under different names. His debate style is to rapidly push his opinions as facts and play the victim if you disagree. He always claims slavery is moral and evolution is not real.

[@simonkoster]

Such a strange hill to die on...

[@danielconroy6695]

If Jesus's is god and god gave rules on owning slavery, then Jesus's was OK with slavery. If he then changed the rules but left it so unclear that for the next 18 centuries, people were OK with it continuing, then he was terrible at distributing his message

[@TravisW888]

So, Jesus can’t come up with a solution apart from death or slavery? No middle ground there? Riiiiiiight.

[@martinburchill6359]

Jesus was said to accept the old laws, if the old testament, including slavery. Nit surprising when he and God are supposedly the same person and ibviiusly doesn't admit to mistakes he/she/it made.

[@thedave1771]

What exactly does it mean to “fulfill the law”? I don’t get how that means it cancels the law.

[@heiyuall]

In a theocracy, there will be many who aren’t part of the state religion who say they are to stay alive, free, and employed.

[@somersetcace1]

Isn't it interesting that for thousands of years they interpreted it one way, and right around the industrial revolution/age of enlightenment, some started interpreting it another? It wasn't 200 years ago they were claiming slavery was ordained by God himself from Genesis to Revelations. heh Go figure.

[@mememefinally]

I love this woman. It's a pleasure to listen to someone articulate so calmly and clearly. But they need to put that guy in his place and stop trying to educate someone who is not interested in facts.

[@Claudia-ny9zs]

Unbelievable

[@sampeeps3371]

I think the abolition of slavery more or less started with Great Britain. We used to patrole West Africa freeing slaves from American slavers

[@Whitebearkiri]

Started here in Upper Canada. 2 men saw a Negro slave being dragged kicking and screaming into a boat to go back across the Niagara River. They decided that slavery had to stop. So they started the movement to end Slavery in the British Empire.

[@rbwinn3]

The British abolished slavery in 1834.

[@Mouth-of-Spaghetti]

France was the first country to abolish slavery, although it took awhile for its colonies to follow that law. Japan was next

[@gottliebdee263]

@@rbwinn3 The Act itself may have been passed then but it certainly didn't stop at that point.

[@oldcountryboy]

Britain was the biggest importer and exporter of slaves

[@robertvirnig638]

At Jesus's time at the end of the Roman Republic, nearly 1/3 of the population were slaves. The fact that Jesus never addressed the issue is significant whether he endorsed it or condemned it.

[@Furry-iousNews]

19:50 The divine, god-incarnate whi created *EVERYTHING* ...... Just uh, he couldnt stop the silly apes from doing the bad.... Some tri-omni god youve got there, did you order it from Wish? 😂

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

B-but, but...divine plan...free will and stuff!1!!1!11! /s

[@gregsanich5183]

The only thing exclusive to christianity about slavery is the abolition of it.

[@XXXVIDS2024]

"Christianity was brought to the indigenous peoples by the Spaniards and Portuguese conquerors in the 16th century". Christianity meant forced assimilation and cultural domination. For example Columbus forced the Natives to convert to Christianity and begin practicing this new religion against their will.

[@bobby9192]

Dan have you ever thought about letting your cohost speak

[@scrapper666]

Cynthia, when you said “rectify”, I think you meant “reconcile”.

[@davidszeremi1786]

Paul didn't stay in keeping with the old testament. For example he said you didn't have to be circumcised or be one of God's chosen people to follow Jesus

[@cassievining340]

How arrogant to tell her to go read the Bible!

[@canbest7668]

@@cassievining340 agreed!

[@2beers007]

trolls be trolling 😂

[@papadelta316]

Man...Chuck got off lucky....if Matt or Aron was on the show, Charles would be limping away sucking on his thumb!!

[@williamray9359]

If you look up who ended slavery it was the British just saying

[@shardinhand1243]

id say by its definition nationalisim is an over reach, one shouldint indoctrinate loyalty, but earn it, and it should be that way with any person, group ideology or nation, that said i do think pride in ones nation is reasonable providid that pride issint baced on a dilusion or lie ie current china, its people shouldint feel pride in theyre nation run by tyrants... while america, its people do deserve to feel pride in the country, america has come so far and made so much progress still plenty to fix and improve still of course.

[@Christina-k9n9x]

this person can not be serious

[@SceptiGus]

Sadly, he is as are his confreres.

[@Christina-k9n9x]

@SceptiGus I know but its sad

[@kailazarus865]

Slavery wasn't abolished due to the bible, it was abolished in spite of the bible.

[@tekbarrier]

That would be like saying God knew people were going to SA children anyway, so instead of telling them not to SA children, he gave them guidelines so they could SA children in the most humane way possible. That's the type of logic this guy is using. Also, he's making his god sound pretty weak, because apparently his God couldn't just tell people not to do stuff (even though he does that all throughout the Old Testament.)

[@CulturedWhiteBoy]

Put the cookies down, Dan!

[@derekc.6155]

I'm sorry, but your jesus, the son of your god and also god incarnate or whatever, couldn't tell people not to own slaves because nobody would listen? If a GOD can't tell people what to do and not do, then it's not a god!

[@funsun.]

USA wasn't the largest importer of slaves in the history of the world, not even close. What a......? That's like saying a BB gun packs more power than nukes. Not even within the Atlantic slave trade!!! 12.000.000 slaves total and 388.000 were shipped to the USA.

[@Furry-iousNews]

1:45 "One of" Bro, clean the secretly gy for Jesus out of your ears and listen

[@shardinhand1243]

9:30 oh no... the host compares slavery to prison, so the thing about prison is that its a stripping of freedom and punishment FOR CRIMES, effectivly by your choices to comit crime you are choosing to go to prison, do you get it host??? slavery was involentary, you would suffer slavery regardless of your own choices or actions, good people, bad people, any race or gender, and any age, a child could be a slave, and as a slave your not a person, your property, owners can beat you, rape you, sell you, do anyhting but kill you... with in three days... and really even that rule is only in the bible, prisoners are still people though arint they host??? do you acknoledge that prisoners are in fact legaly still people???, the prison guards can rape or torture or sell them like items, you get that right host??? i dont like this ether ignorant or extreamly dishonest comparasin iv seen making the rounds of far left extremists latly, the whole dismantle the prison system, its a bad idea, unless you can give a better one, please do, becuae when you break a system, you have to replace it with something....

[@Furry-iousNews]

Hey if I'm starving and i don't eat what happens? So how can you punish me if i steal because I'm hungry and say its my "choice" Humans need food, you are essentially saying we need to choose to die and like it Like a fascist,.....weird, anyone who talks about "extreme leftists" always seems to just be espousing fashy ideas....

[@Furry-iousNews]

Hey when we "dismantle the prison system" What does that mean to you? Because i have a very strong inkling that you are against a strawman of prison reform, not actual prison reform

[@shardinhand1243]

@@Furry-iousNews so to answer your question dismantling the prison system is fairly stright forward its getting rid of the legal use of prisons, for example we no longer engage in public exicutions or hanging, these methods of punishment have been ended, so thats what i mean by dismantle, and to clerify, this issint my idea, just one of many terrible ideas of heard from the radicalized far left, along with "decolonizing" america, ie giving it back to native americans which would displace all americans, or the idea of disolving national boarders, these are all ideas that may sound quite lovely and good on paper but in exicution would lead to tons of nationa and internationa crisis conflicts and countless harm to people, now i did want to ask what you meant by prison reform?? to me the term reform when talking about prison simply refurs to the goal of changing the behavior of criminals to be more practical to live in sociaty, to get along with people, and to follow laws, but you may mean something totaly different please explain m8

[@DXTRIPLEHBK]

"Far left extremists" lol! I'm willing to bet you have no idea what prison reform even means. I bet you think "far left extremists" want to get have no law enforcement too. 🤭

[@rbwinn3]

Jesus belonged to a society that were enslaved by the Romans. The counsel Jesus gave was that if a Roman compels you to go a mile, (that was Roman law, a Roman could compel a Jew to carry his burden for a mile), go with him two. So now you say Jesus was in favor of slavery. No, Jesus was not in favor of the slavery. He was in favor of doing more than required to keep the Romans happy in their iniquity and less inclined to persecute Jews. Today atheists are trying to create a society in which they are like the Romans used to be. Everyone has to carry the burden of atheists and atheists can be happy in their iniquity. The only problem atheists have with their plan is that the United States is a free country.

[@canderson5098]

But but but abortion

[@Furry-iousNews]

So he never said to free people? Sounds like if he can care enough to tell people to blind themselves if they feel lust he could also say "don't own people"

[@Furry-iousNews]

"Guy guys hear me out, if you even _look_at a woman, thats thats like...bad you should put yourneyes out.... beating a man who is your property and has to do whatever you say? Why would i even say anything about that?"- jesus essentially

[@Leith_Crowther]

If Jesus is God, then Jesus likes slavery. If Jesus is not God, we still have “slaves, obey your masters” as the message he brings from God through Paul. So the real problem here isn’t that some apocalyptic preacher didn’t care about the status quo, it’s that the omnipotent power of the universe himself likes slavery.

[@rbwinn3]

@@canderson5098 Yes, abortion. Atheists say they are not in favor of slavery because they kill the people they want to subjugate in society. So they claim that Jesus was worse than atheists because he said to go the extra mile with regard to slavery enforcers. Where that falls apart is that the example Jesus set was not killing 60,000,000 children the way atheists have done. Jesus did not kill anyone during his mortal life.

[@2Timothy42-tl6lh]

Repent of your sins, believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. Luke 24:47 KJV And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. John 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:3 KJV Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

[@Mouth-of-Spaghetti]

Thank you, l was worried there wasnt going to be a drive by Cut and Paste... Christians like Cut and Paste because they are bored with these tired old scriptures as the rest of the world. Look up the facts, christianity is dying fast, churches are mostly grey and white haired old people. hopefully it will be gone in the next 100 years, wish it was today.

[@kellen_mcsmellin]

I agree, Yahweh should repent of telling people to enslave one another. What a terrible thing for a "good father" to do

[@Mouth-of-Spaghetti]

@@kellen_mcsmellin sorry didnt mean to tag you on that comment

[@Mouth-of-Spaghetti]

@@2Timothy42-tl6lh some intellectual wimp keeps deleting my comments I guess ignorant people prefer an echo chamber

[@jpstardom3375]

First prove your god exists Otherwise, what you posted here has absolutely no meaning whatsoever.

[@CaliforniaSurfer-gc2xv]

Love how they IGNORE THAT EVIL YWH HAD THESE EVIL LAWS

[@CaliforniaSurfer-gc2xv]

Love how THESE DUPES IGNORE EVIL YWH IS HE NOT TH BIG DADDY

[@whatuppeople2024]

Jesus was a Jew and never said not to own Slaves! Wake up Theists!