Jesus as the True Vine Means He is the True Israel

[@allencarmichael766]

Chad, thanks so much. I watch every week and really did miss you last week. You are an invaluable resource to my sermon prep. You are an excellent teacher. I appreciate your diligence in preparation.

[@chadbird1517]

Thank you, Allen! I’m glad to know they are helpful. I enjoy the weekly discipline. The Lord bless your proclamation.

[@world-of-susan.]

Thank you from Kerala, India.

[@JonasEllison]

This was so extremely helpful. Preaching on it tomorrow - thanks be to God! (And, of course, to Chad 😜 )

[@Vonnie777]

Jesus is the true vine, we are the branches ❤

[@SpotterVideo]

Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and said to Him, "Rabbi, You are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!" The most important genealogy in the Bible is found in Matthew 1:1, as confirmed by Paul in Galatians 3:8, and Galatians 3:16. Christ is the seed of Abraham, and the seed of David. Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the KZbin video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church: “The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?

[@gregorywilliams3769]

Very well said!

[@thinkinggingerbeard2556]

Please explain to me your point in #6. My ESV version says "and in this way all Israel will be saved..." I don't see too notable a difference between so and then. Then obviously implies something takes place before, but "and so" has the same meaning.

[@SpotterVideo]

@@thinkinggingerbeard2556 The Greek word "houto" is an adverb of manner. The word "then" is an adverb of timing. "How" will all of the "remnant" (Romans 9:27 and 11:5) of Israel be saved? The answer is found below. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the Church in this passage. All are under the same plan found in Romans 11:1.

[@SpotterVideo]

@@thinkinggingerbeard2556 Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews. Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5. Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11. Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11. Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost. Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24. Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church. I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following. "And then all Israel will be saved..." I have heard another say the following. "And all Israel will be saved..." What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say? Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse. How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future? Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith. Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.

[@LOVEJESUS188]

This is my first time listening to you, Very good, praise the Lord Jesus Christ Amen 🙏🏻

[@alisonquinto2630]

I am so thankful to be woven into the tree of life, just a little space for me and my family! Bessing everyone as we wait patiently for the Lord to come....

[@rickyelocke4321]

A very powerful teaching.

[@sbryan060]

Great stuff! One request can you increase your volume output? I can’t get it loud enough to hear clearly in my air buds. Thanks!

[@chadbird1517]

Thanks, Shawn! I appreciate the feedback. Check out my more recent videos on this Playlist and I think the volume issue was resolved. If not, let me know!

[@sbryan060]

@@chadbird1517 You got it, thank you!!

[@hrhqueene]

What a wonderful message!

[@ONEFAITHofJESUS]

Thank you -This is beautiful and needs to taught and understood much more.

[@Notworthy72]

Thank you so much for your sound exegesis of the scriptures.

[@lemnisgate8809]

Amen, Yeshua Hamashiach is the true vine.

[@Goldylocks-yv9ch]

Gil's Music here: Very good--!

[@GatheringJacob]

I really appreciated this video thank you. When you say from a Hebrew mindset, you mean from Isaiah Jeremiah etc, correct?

[@weecher8956]

Great word!

[@mangoes1412]

Hi Chad, Can you kindly please explain and expand on John 15:2? I have done a bit of research and have read through some commentaries about this verse but I'm not completely sure about this statement if its translated properly in english and what is the implications of these verse about the followers/children of God Thank you in advance

[@gilbertomendez4125]

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[@ILOVEYESHUA1ST]

This explains the Apostle Paul in Romans 11, where he compares believers from the nations being grafted into the tree/ vine called Israel. The church does not know its correct identity

[@thecrisisfortruth]

what is the fruit? many say it is preaching the gospel and bringing people to become Christians? is that it or is there more?

[@garethifan1034]

The audio to this is very very weak..I can barely hear your presentation?

[@awdat]

17:38 *Completely wrong. It's fruit that only Jesus can bear. Not the kind of fruit anyone can bear.*

[@stevemiller8895]

Maybe you will bring this understanding down to earth and inform all who are of Israel ( Christ) are now obliged to keep the commandments and the law by the spirit. In the way of Christ by the works of our hands / clean hands and a pure heart as is the tradition spoken of in Matt. 5 What does tgat look like? The keeping of moedim, the feasts and sabbath days. And Godly raiment and many other things that we all have neglected in the law/ instruction. Can now be considered a delight in the keeping of them.

[@rolysantos]

Isaiah 49 also tells us that Jesus, "The Servant," is true Israel. And HE will bring back "Jacob" (earthly/natural Israel) as well as the Gentiles, into His Church!

[@garethifan1034]

He will bring those who are of faith alone, not by ethnic descent..Romans 9:6-8

[@rolysantos]

@@garethifan1034 I have been teaching this for years . Yes, the prophecy is that Jesus will bring in a remnant of earthly national Israel. These are the “Remnant that I have kept” These are the elect spoken of by Paul in Romans 11, the elect of earthly Israel who DID obtain what they sought after. Jesus will also bring in the gentiles. Both of these occurred. See Acts 1 and 10.

[@stevemiller8895]

He's talking about the breath of Life when he's talking about the spoken word. The receiving of the Holy Spirit. Pruning is alluring to circumcising the heart. The promise of Abraham is Isaac,and Jesus The flesh is physical Israel. See Rom. 9:6-8

[@mikeschmoll7762]

If Jesus is the true Israel what is with ethnic Israel and the prophecy to to them?

[@charleneriddle5995]

They, like all the rest of the world, can only be saved through Christ. Whoever is in Christ is Israel. Christ is the Only Jew who kept the Law perfectly, and the rest - their circumcism was made uncircumcism because of sin, and only through Christ can they be saved. There is no Jew saved without Christ, all under sin, remember, He has concluded all under sin. That means all must come through Christ and Him Crucified in order to be called true Israel.

[@garethifan1034]

All answered in Romans 9:6-8..

[@benjaminhoward4630]

It was never about ethnicity itself, but the faith of Abraham who are true children of Israel. Many of the people in the modern nation state are composed of other nations, in addition to the original "blood line." The current nation state also rejects historical Israeli religion, and what you're seeing has more roots in the Kaballah occultic mystery religion. All who will be saved shall abide in Christ, who we look back towards and whom Abraham looked forward to in faith.

[@Over-for-now]

Hebrew eyes? God wants us to hear Paul's gospel now ---it was a MYSTERY not known before. The Lord Jesus Christ gave it to Paul as HIS chosen vessel. THAT is the gospel for this dispensation

[@PastorMikeGibney]

So...are we supposed to abide???? 😏

[@legrandbrown4149]

If you are a true believer you are abiding. It's not something that you do. The Father has placed you in the Beloved and there you abide.

[@stevemiller8895]

In your spirit Joined with Gods holy spirit, you abide, that is your dwelling place, it is from this place that you now reconcile your heart unto God as you bring Christ / holy spirit into areas of your heart that is in need of being pruned Because in your spirit of man you are joined with the holy Spirit in the holy of holies of your heart. That is your true vine identity also known as the new creation. It is from this place that you bring victory into the fleshly places of your heart and it is this victory that extinguishes the unreconciled unforgiven areas of it. As when those unreconciled places come up, we are sure to reconcile instead of suppress by acknowledgement and acceptance / forgiveness. Given to us in the New creation aka the true vine.

[@InterestedInDansk]

Balaam was not a Jew and would not speak against the Israelites yet he had the authority to speak as a prophet, today there are prophets who have had true theophanies and glorious revelations, who would never deny Israel's right in fact they would endorse Israel and the people in Israel as the *Children of God* Christians are envious of Jewish salvation, thinking that Jews have to convert to Christianity but they don't, Christianity came about because one enlightened man and the generation he grew up in knew they had to expand the ability of God to create *a superhighway for souls* that the Children of God would come to God in the arms of *KINGS who would be their foster fathers, and Queen's who would be their Nursing mothers* as recorded in Isaiah 49, which also records Israel as *You are my servant Israel in whom I shall be Glorified* The new Testament states that Jesus Christ identified Elijah in John the Baptist and John the Baptist identified Israel redivivus in Jesus (the lamb of God) where he said _John answered them, “I baptize with water; but among you stands one whom you do not know, 27 _*_even he who comes after me, the thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie.” 28_*_ This took place in Bethany_ John the Baptist therefore states that he recognised Jesus as Israel when he was present in Elijah, even though Israel lived 1200 years before him, as confirmed by Isaiah salvation of the Jews is *The preserved of Jacob are redeemed in Israel* The Old Testament provides reincarnation as a mean of Redemption. _Zechariah 13:9 And I will put this third into the fire, and refine them as one refines silver, and test them as gold is tested. They will call on my name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are my people’; and they will _ The New Testament also states that a person has opportunities to be reborn *but a time comes when they can no longer die anymore, but must become children of God* celestial beings and then be judged. As Christians they must have the Jewish spiritual blood for transformation which Jesus Christ gives. Luke 20:36 _36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection._ The following text of Luke (37) confirms the salvation which the Jews enjoyed from Moses. The New Testament was written by dedicated Jews who were including the family if Abraham in the lineage of Jesus but they also revered King David as Jesus ancestry and the Christian Church has avoided any belief in reincarnation as a pathway to Resurrection and Ascension because to understand that subject in the light of Scripture brings the believer directly ti the knowledge that Jesus and (Jacob) are Israel. Judgement for an Israelite and a Christian are the same they must stand before the Divine Word of God and hear his testimony of salvation which is Revelation, jesus does not take part in Judgement nor does Almighty God, because a person could not bear it. *Jesus Christ does not Judge* John 8:15 _You judge according to the flesh, I judge no one._ John 8:50 _Yet I do not seek my own glory; there is One who seeks it and he will be the judge._ John 12:47 _If any one hears my sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world._ John 5:221-23 _21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will. 22 _*_The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honour the Son,_*_ even as they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who sent him._ It is a great honour to be judged and confirms that we have had multiple opportunities for rebirth but we are now at *the end of the world* in the presence of a personage of overwhelming purity a purity that confirms in us how far removed we are from Him who has to deal with us. Like Job He asks *who are you to stand before me* and *are you great? Only the great can pass me by* This can happen in this life or after it. After a length of time in which you are left with the wrath of God on you, you may be allowed to see God the Father but you see him in Jesus Christ You see the glory of God in Him, this is called the *Beatific Vision.* This can cause concern in the soul, because the Christian religion states that Jesus is the Judge this is not true, but he can *pray the spirit for us* the Son who is the Spirit of Truth and Divine Word manifests himself as a *Glittering great two edged Sword* this is not Jesus but Jesus Christ in the Beatific Vision is ALSO Israel. Judgement is a non-trinitarian event

[@stevemiller8895]

Lets remember that all of the law and prophets are summed up in Christ , who is preminent Israel, for before Abraham was , " I Am". He is GENUINE ISRAEL he was in the. Beginning, so the true law is what he demonstrated in his life , death and resurrection. The old testament law of moses , and the old testament lacked the spirit necessary for those without it to fulfill righteousness, but bc there was only the flesh , it gave way to prejudice and self righteous pride.. But Bc Jesus had the spirit , he was equipped to perform rightousness. So the TRUE LAW! Was preminent before moses and to demonstrate his justice , the spirit departed at the tree of knowledge And the people were divorced from the spirit. In order to show or demonstrate what it would look like with out his mercy and grace and what would become of mankind. SO EVERYONE STOP THINKING THAT THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL CAME FIRST , JESUS CANE FIRST AND EVERYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH ISRAEL FALLS UNDER THE AUSPICE OF CHRIST! HE IS PREMINENT!

[@stevemiller8895]

No it was always about him and he was always the Vine his life is played out through a corporate body called Israel so do not confuse this because if you do you're going to keep going back to physical Israel for your identity rather than to Christ who is Israel.

[@fullfrontalgrace]

Works based salvation army way ya wanna work it. Prove by your works that you were/are saved...or you're not. James anyone. No thanks, I'll stick with the gospel given to Paul by our glorious risen Lord Jesus Christ.

[@stevemiller8895]

No do not say that Israel has been reduced down to one man because Israel was pre-existent in Christ himself. Therefore Christ being Israel is preeminent and is according to the promise not to according to the flesh according to Romans 9:6-8

[@ricoyochanan]

The term "true Israel" is found nowhere in the Bible. I think people read too much into this. Jesus is never called Israel, but just as Jacob was in Egypt and was buried in Canaan, so was Jesus in Egypt and brought back to the land of Israel. Israel is a nation and a people, but not Jesus.

[@stevemiller8895]

ACCORDING TO MATT. 2:15 AND HOSEA 11:1 JESUS IS IN FACT ISRAEL REMEMBER John 8:58 BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS " I AM" Therefore Jesus is Pre-eminent Israel and his story is played out within a corporate body of people. Called Israel.