Who Is the True Israel?

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Desiring God

Desiring God

7 жыл бұрын

The promises of God are, and always have been, for the children of promise born by the miracle of God.
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@user-vw6sl4ru3g
@user-vw6sl4ru3g 8 ай бұрын
At the end of the day only thru faith in Jesus Christ we will be saved true children of Abraham will be saved jews and gentiles alike by coming to faith in Christ.
@ii-ji1ec
@ii-ji1ec 4 ай бұрын
Wrong
@CBALLEN
@CBALLEN 2 ай бұрын
@ii-ji1ecWe receive the new birth when God makes us alive with Christ while we are still dead in sin eph 2:4-5)this grants us faith to believe in what Jesus has Already accomplished for us. John 1:12-13 (NASB95): 12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13who were born, not of blood(not by being related to Abraham)nor of the will of the flesh (not through a sexual act or any works of man)nor of the will of man,(not by man's free will)) but of God.
@raven4449
@raven4449 29 күн бұрын
jews are out of the term saving as god already called war against them and called them enemies of the belivers cause jews aren't isrealies .
@deusx.machinaanime.3072
@deusx.machinaanime.3072 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Lord God for this lesson 😇🙏
@rollandhill97
@rollandhill97 Жыл бұрын
Thank you pastor for the enlightenment.
@VeritasEtAequitas
@VeritasEtAequitas 28 күн бұрын
It's simple. It's those who accept THE promise. Those who are in Christ. It went from a tribe of blood, to a title given only to some of birthright, to only Christians. And they hate this. And us for knowing it. That's why we're slandered as anti-somethingorother for knowing truth.
@tobennauzo3933
@tobennauzo3933 26 күн бұрын
💯
@raysonraypay5885
@raysonraypay5885 6 жыл бұрын
The steadfast love of the Lord is better than life
@louiseridder8738
@louiseridder8738 5 жыл бұрын
"For they are not all Israel who have descended from Israel." "And the LORD said: “Because this people draw near with their mouth and honor Me with their lips, while their hearts are far from Me, and their fear of Me is a commandment taught by men..." Likewise, not all that say they are Christians are Christians. “Not everyone who says to me, ‘LORD, LORD,’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but the one who does the Will of my Father who is in Heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘LORD, LORD, did we not prophesy in Your Name, and cast out demons in your Name, and do many mighty works in your Name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of iniquity.’ “Why do you call me ‘LORD, LORD,’ and not do what I tell you? “‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth." Christ Jesus Fulfilled (completed) the Old Covenant, so, then, who is the true Israel, under the New Covenant? Israel are the Spiritual Believers of GOD and His Son, the Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth. "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all One in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s Seed and heirs according to the Promise." {GAL 3: 28-29}. Israel are the set-apart ones that follow GOD'S Law written on their circumcised heart, and Believe in His Son, Christ Jesus. {JER 31: 31-34}. Therefore, Israel is not a piece of real estate in the Middle East nor a people that call themselves Jews. Israel are the people under the New Covenant 'cut' by Christ Jesus on the Cross, who have accepted GOD'S Gift of Grace, and have Faith and Believe in His Son, the Messiah. This is not displacement theology as the modern zionist Christian churches and ministries would have us think. The Parable of the Wicked Tenants: Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: ‘The Stone the builders rejected has become the Cornerstone. This is from the LORD, and it is marvelous in our eyes’? Therefore I tell you that the Kingdom of GOD will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. He who falls on this Stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed." {MATT 21: 42-44}. "Let it be known to you then that this Salvation of GOD has been sent to the Gentiles; they will listen." {ACTS 28: 23-29}.
@bennunn9009
@bennunn9009 5 жыл бұрын
Who are the gentiles the Bible is talking about the lsraelate that was living with the gentiles Matthew 15:24
@bennunn9009
@bennunn9009 5 жыл бұрын
When it says they are not all lsrael who have descended from lsrael it's talking Ishmael and esau they are from Abraham and Isaac not of Jacob who is Israel the father of the 12 tribe of Israel not the gentile if they do the comments of God they can be saved as Bond man and Bond women lsaiah 14:2 get the understanding of the Bible
@rancidbutter9669
@rancidbutter9669 4 жыл бұрын
Lady, you're not Israel. In fact, get on your knees and thank white jesus you're NOT Israel
@diedreb4611
@diedreb4611 4 жыл бұрын
Good word....those of faith are Israel. To do the will of God is to believe on whom He has sent.
@diedreb4611
@diedreb4611 4 жыл бұрын
One cant fulfill the Law but through Christ...therefore the Heart must be cleansed First....that can only happen by the one who is spirit
@DixieDee
@DixieDee 7 ай бұрын
Let's also not forget : Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
@sarco64
@sarco64 6 ай бұрын
I think that his arguments would have been even more irrefutable if he had included Galatians 3:29 and 4:21-31. Unfortunately, it seems that dispensationalists and Christian Zionists have never really read and thought about these passages. As a result, many Americans, including many in political power, have the attitude that we must support everything that the Israeli government, Israeli military, and Israeli settlers do, no questions asked.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
@@sarco64 Israelis are not Israelites. That is our first clue. The second is that the birthright has been stolen.
@angelusvastator1297
@angelusvastator1297 2 ай бұрын
@@psalm2764 Some Israelis are Israelites if they believe in Jesus, from a christian POV.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
@@angelusvastator1297 Esau cannot be an Israelite, no matter what he believes.
@JRJackman-qs8ph
@JRJackman-qs8ph 7 ай бұрын
This is the clearest exposition of the true Israel of God I’ve ever come across. Such clarity is particularly needed at this time of war between ethnic Israel and the Palestinians in Gaza, and ongoing repression in the West Bank. Thank you John Piper.
@dogechrist
@dogechrist 7 ай бұрын
Amen. Searched for this because I was getting so sick of modern Christians worshipping the secular ethnic Israel.
@ramieal-hazar2438
@ramieal-hazar2438 7 ай бұрын
@@dogechristme too. It’s heartbreaking to watch them be so manipulated by them. They are masters of manipulation.
@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551
@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551 7 ай бұрын
@@dogechrist Right there with you brother. Dispensationalism is so deceptive!
@callienn
@callienn 6 ай бұрын
Why wouldn't you stand with Israel right now? I'm Israeli and a believer. We're fighting Hamas - a Radical Islamic Terrorist organization that's engaging in Jihad. That means they are shedding blood in the name of a false god. What theology gives you permission to be neutral on this evil? Where is your moral clarity?
@JRJackman-qs8ph
@JRJackman-qs8ph 5 ай бұрын
@@JohnBrack-xi6yg yes, Jesus did begin by sending His disciples to the lost sheep Israel (Matthew 10: 5) but the story didn’t end there. Jesus initiated a New Covenant in His blood remember. Paul was sent to the Gentiles. Henceforth the true spiritual Israel included both Jews and Gentiles through faith in Him - as Piper was explaining from ‘the book’. Not only that but God poured out his wrath on ethnic Israel in AD70 - for their disobedience - and ended the Temple sacrifices.
@gws5491
@gws5491 5 жыл бұрын
Abraham became a nation, and a nation has become a man. Christ is the true seed and is the true Israel. Those that are in Christ are the true Israel of God. As Christians, we must never take our eyes from Christ Jesus our lord. We must never trust in any nation's upon this Earth. Remember, we are pilgrims upon this Earth and our true Fatherland is above.
@HappyPenguin75034
@HappyPenguin75034 8 ай бұрын
true Israel from grafting?
@user-sn5zs9qh4w
@user-sn5zs9qh4w 8 ай бұрын
Born again believers are the true Israel In christ we are the seed of Abraham Grafted in of course because of their unbelief Because belief is what it takes to be the seed of Abraham
@matthewsouthwell3500
@matthewsouthwell3500 7 ай бұрын
​@@HappyPenguin75034Who is the root?
@joshuakriese4604
@joshuakriese4604 7 ай бұрын
Wrong
@HappyPenguin75034
@HappyPenguin75034 7 ай бұрын
@@matthewsouthwell3500 Show me in scripture - root. Chris is for us. In genealogy- root of Jesse but that’s for humanity tracking.
@timothymoleka7362
@timothymoleka7362 8 ай бұрын
Due to this biblical blindness many Christians side with Israel, and hate Palestinians. I personally cry to see innocent people dying on both sides. Jesus Christ unifies us into one people by the means of faith. Praise God!!!
@bettyyu4112
@bettyyu4112 8 ай бұрын
Real Christians do not hate.
@alexkelley6064
@alexkelley6064 8 ай бұрын
@@bettyyu4112should not hate. Romans 13:14-21
@vidaacheampong2563
@vidaacheampong2563 8 ай бұрын
@@bettyyu4112 they shouldn't but they do..
@brianboudrot7055
@brianboudrot7055 7 ай бұрын
Some Palestinians are Christians. There were Christian Palestinians before Mohammed was born. Why would anyone hate someone for where they live or came from? Palestine was originally from the name given by the Romans (Palestina - referencing the Philistines - it was an insult) for the promised/holy land. Technically anyone before Mohammed and Islam could be called Palestinian who lived there at the time but we give that name to Arabs in the land.
@hexadanus4185
@hexadanus4185 7 ай бұрын
what I can bet is that you have Israel.
@freespirit7450
@freespirit7450 2 жыл бұрын
We christian are the spiritual israel.
@fourltrman
@fourltrman Жыл бұрын
Put down the crack pipe and go read your bible some more. God is NOT done with the ethnic Jews.
@obkook7205
@obkook7205 7 ай бұрын
I'm at the 11:00 min spot and Pastor John is doing such a great job outlining what Romans 9 is truly about ... Paul is working towards the point that the "children of promise" has always been those who've put their faith in God. There is no Calvinist doctrine here being supported at all. God bless you all
@salvadorenadecorazongil9454
@salvadorenadecorazongil9454 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus is the way the truth and the light. The promise is that all who believe will be saved.
@JohnBLKtheSon
@JohnBLKtheSon 5 жыл бұрын
No white people going to slavery.
@littlecrow6484
@littlecrow6484 3 жыл бұрын
That's all we need. God has ONE chosen people ; BELIEVERS IN JESUS. THAT'S IT ! Piper is complicating a simple fact. Amazing.
@kimmykimko
@kimmykimko 8 ай бұрын
Its life, not light. Though He is the light of the World. Pay attention to words.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
@@littlecrow6484 There is a people called Israel and Judah and a remnant of them will be saved. Isaiah 11
@backpressure123
@backpressure123 4 жыл бұрын
This really cleared up what I was wondering.
@timeisupnow5368
@timeisupnow5368 3 жыл бұрын
Me 2
@fourltrman
@fourltrman Жыл бұрын
You are a FOOL if you believe this clown.
@aalekhadearaujo
@aalekhadearaujo 5 ай бұрын
When The Lord called to me, He called me by name. He called me Israel. P.s, I'm a Christian and I wasn't born in Israel --the nation. So yes, the scripture says exactly what it is.
@personaldevelopment9874
@personaldevelopment9874 5 ай бұрын
Beautiful explanation ❤️
@salvadorenadecorazongil9454
@salvadorenadecorazongil9454 5 жыл бұрын
And who is anti christ but who denies Jesus.
@PrettyyoungThing1
@PrettyyoungThing1 5 жыл бұрын
salvadoreña de corazón Gil yep
@kid7805
@kid7805 4 жыл бұрын
salvadoreña de corazón Gil lol Jesus ain’t not saviour
@startrek9637
@startrek9637 4 жыл бұрын
salvadorena ? jesus out a dis go ask the pope of rome we are talking about us black so you are a white man go seek for jesus he will save you not us plz from now on remember that we speak of Yahuah not jesus i think jesus belong to you dont imposed ur god upon us black you need to leave out a dis and leave us alone unuh whites ppl bothers us too much we need space to breathe now man
@ddeeforex2475
@ddeeforex2475 4 жыл бұрын
The anti christ is that deception and false image of christ being a feminine white man posted all over Christian churches.
@FreedominChrist45
@FreedominChrist45 4 жыл бұрын
The Pope is- Watch SCHOOL OF PRIPHETS - BABLYON TO AMERICAN
@elwingw4321
@elwingw4321 6 жыл бұрын
The just shall live by faith. The seed of Abraham is Christ. All who live by faith in the promises of God who is Christ is the called out ones.the Israel of GOD.Christ is the fulfillment of the law. o thank you Lord for the unsearchable riches of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
Christ is God. The seed of Jacob-Israel is scattered. God will gather the remnant at the end of time for the second time. Isaiah 11.11., Ezekiel 11.17, Ezekiel 37, John 12.20-24
@philblagden
@philblagden 8 ай бұрын
I think there is spiritual Israel which is all believers in Jesus regardless of whether they are Jew and Gentile. However there is also the nation of Israel made up of ethnic Jews and although an unsaved Jew is no more blessed than an unsaved Gentile, yet prophecy indicates that the nation and its people still play a part on God's plans. Exodus 32:13 said the land of Israel was given to the physical descendants of Jacob forever. Romans 11 tells us that they have not fallen beyond recovers, and that their acceptance of the gospel will be life from the dead, in other words it will help usher in the resurrection.
@dogechrist
@dogechrist 7 ай бұрын
Israel is a sacrificial lamb of the Apocalypse. Their wickedness is opening the eyes of the world
@dude8223
@dude8223 7 ай бұрын
Not SPIRITUAL.... it's literal. Bible does not define Israel as a bloodline. It defines a jew, Israel, as those who have faith in Christ. Non believers regardless of bloodline ARE NOT JEWS, not Israel.
@daughterofzionisrael517
@daughterofzionisrael517 5 жыл бұрын
Revelation 2: 9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, but thou (12 tribes of Israel) are rich and I know the blasphemy of them (those FAKE Jews) which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of SATAN.
@freespirit7450
@freespirit7450 2 жыл бұрын
GOD is taking about you.
@elijahrose7913
@elijahrose7913 Жыл бұрын
The letters are written to 10 CHURCHES
@yahusefbenyisrael8705
@yahusefbenyisrael8705 5 жыл бұрын
Isaiah 11:11-12 [11]And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. [12]And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
@EWPWrestling
@EWPWrestling 4 жыл бұрын
This is 1000 year reign. not the Antichrist reign from who todays Israel will eat up and love.
@yahawadahbenyasharahla2899
@yahawadahbenyasharahla2899 3 жыл бұрын
Kan
@meeks4004
@meeks4004 3 жыл бұрын
@@EWPWrestling how do you know that is during the millennial reign?
@EWPWrestling
@EWPWrestling 3 жыл бұрын
@@meeks4004 Go to Ezekiel 38..then to Ezekiel 39. Its all the same and definitely 1000 year reign. It mentions Gog And Magog which will happen during the 1000 year reign. The 1948 Israel hates Jesus and believes he is in hell burning in dung and semon. Thats not his people.
@meeks4004
@meeks4004 3 жыл бұрын
@@EWPWrestling wow thanks..ive been trying to find some truth in Revelation but its difficult due to the fact that there are soo many opinions over major doctrine... I hear alot that in the tribulation God will deal with the Jews separately from how he dealt with the Christian, and it is known at an old-time prophecy as "the day of Jacob's trouble" which essentially is God using the tribulation to bring the Jews back to him... in your opinion is this the correct way to look at it?...for instance if God doesnt deal with Isreal differently from the church in the tribulation..then who are the 144,000?
@PastorJared39
@PastorJared39 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pastor John! This has been most helpful!
@queenisrael8158
@queenisrael8158 Жыл бұрын
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@fourltrman
@fourltrman Жыл бұрын
You are a fool.
@rossdaboss1959
@rossdaboss1959 2 ай бұрын
Acts 2:38 is still God's plan of salvation. One way for all people. We can't pick and choose which scriptures we like or dislike. Eternity is too long to leave this earth and be wrong. .
@philwade
@philwade 3 жыл бұрын
The promise that is being referenced is "Genesis 15:13".
@manseth3
@manseth3 5 жыл бұрын
Those who have faith in Christ are heirs of Abraham. Not all who claim to have faith or belong but those who truly believe are the children of promise.
@bennunn9009
@bennunn9009 5 жыл бұрын
No u have to do the work
@rancidbutter9669
@rancidbutter9669 4 жыл бұрын
That's not how ANY of this works
@sydneylover6563
@sydneylover6563 3 жыл бұрын
@@bennunn9009 through faith not by works shall you be saved,,,Jesus has done the work and we rest in him
@queenisrael8158
@queenisrael8158 Жыл бұрын
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@yahusefbenyisrael8705
@yahusefbenyisrael8705 5 жыл бұрын
Threw Issac thy seed shall be called ( Jacob) not Esau not Ishmael
@anacleto_da_god
@anacleto_da_god 4 жыл бұрын
Time is almost up 12tribes
@mr.e1220
@mr.e1220 4 жыл бұрын
The Bible seems to teach quite clearly that Jesus IS Israel and in some sense fulfills all of the hopes and expectations for the nation. He does what they never could. He obeys God perfectly and keeps the law entirely and thereby unlocks all of the promises and blessings that God had said he would give. He then shares those blessings with all people - Jew or Gentile - who put their faith and trust in him. That is the precise argument that Paul is making in Galatians 3. He says: Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. (Galatians 3:16 ESV) Jesus Christ is the ultimate focus and referent for the promises of God to Israel! The promises do not land finally on a nation but on a person! The glory and climax of God’s redemptive purpose is not “Israel in the land” but “Christ on the cross”!
@mycomment474
@mycomment474 4 жыл бұрын
Isaac's seed, Saxons (Isaac's Sons) Sorry pal, the sub Saharan African Bantu don't even have an alphabet to this very day. No way did your relatives write any books. Animism and Vodun are their true religions, all other religions came from outside of Africa. FACT !. FYI Galatians are from ancient Gaul (west central Europe) They call themselves, Celts.
@ginacameron1545
@ginacameron1545 4 жыл бұрын
The true seed is 👑Yahushua
@mycomment474
@mycomment474 4 жыл бұрын
@@ginacameron1545 You must be another one of those fakes who call themselves "BHI". I can usually tell because that particular movement seems to have the tendency of calling God a liar. Below you will find THREE different places in God's word where God himself says his Hebrew's seed (offspring) are called Isaac (Saxons = Isaac's Sons) -------> Hebrews 11:18 “Of whom it was said, That in *Isaac shall thy seed be called:”* Genesis 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in *Isaac shall thy seed be called* Romans 9:7 “Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In *Isaac shall thy seed be called.”*
@YahuahsDaughterLuke
@YahuahsDaughterLuke 2 жыл бұрын
Therefore, ALL WHO accept Christ (Yeshua Ha’Mashiach) as their Lord and Savior become CHILDREN of the promise!
@RoseSharon7777
@RoseSharon7777 2 жыл бұрын
Thats not scriptural. You must be born of the water ofcthe logos and spirit. Repent and overcome sin that leads to eternal death. Psalms 146:3 might help you. As well as Jer 16:19-21 KJV or hebrew. The strong delusion came soon after John died.
@queenisrael8158
@queenisrael8158 2 жыл бұрын
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@AllforOne_OneforAll1689
@AllforOne_OneforAll1689 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoseSharon7777 Actually it is, you are the one who is mistaken. 'Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?- just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.' Galatians 3:5-9 'For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.' Galatians 3:26-29 'For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.' Romans 2:28-29 'In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. ' Colossians 2:11-12
@fourltrman
@fourltrman Жыл бұрын
Go Read Romans 11 KJV Fool. You are wrong and any Fool that believes as you are is also wrong.
@fourltrman
@fourltrman Жыл бұрын
@@AllforOne_OneforAll1689 Go Read Romans 11 KJV Fool. You are wrong and any Fool that believes as you are is also wrong.
@n.d.6430
@n.d.6430 2 ай бұрын
God knows precisely who are the inheritors of the promises He made to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and their descendants. Since God’s promises to Israel are especially focused on the land of Israel, it would make sense for God to be calling His people back to the land He promised them. The end times revolve, largely, around the people of Israel being in the land of Israel. God will call 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel to be His witnesses (Revelation 7:4). God does not need genealogical records to know the people He has chosen. At the same time, in this current dispensation, our relationship with God does not depend on being a member of His chosen nation (Ephesians 2:11-16). Jews and Gentiles all have equal access to the salvation that is provided through Jesus Christ (Romans 1:16). In the body of Christ, we are one in Christ (Galatians 3:
@oratuwe8114
@oratuwe8114 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for this🙏🏿
5 жыл бұрын
Through Abraham then Issac now we are Jacobs descendants what’s promised is the 144,000 elect who keep the laws and commandments don’t forget that part
@nomorewar4189
@nomorewar4189 4 жыл бұрын
Shareeka David - one law - Romans 13:10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law Galatians 5:14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself.
@diedreb4611
@diedreb4611 4 жыл бұрын
Christ is the seed....all who continue in faith of Christ can fullfill the Law.
@democratpro
@democratpro 6 ай бұрын
One of the most profound, precious gentle-flexes I’ve ever heard....wow
@mihaivesa7719
@mihaivesa7719 5 ай бұрын
What is that profile picture … ?
@democratpro
@democratpro 5 ай бұрын
@@mihaivesa7719 antique farming and blacksmithing tools
@lisanmc4536
@lisanmc4536 7 ай бұрын
This teaching is correct, that it’s not the physical but spiritual…it is more along the lines of what some of the ORIGINAL faiths such as the Coptic, Orthodox or RC’s teach it. They’ve kept the correct interpretation for centuries.
@dogechrist
@dogechrist 7 ай бұрын
Amen. That’s why Putin and the Orthodox Church are taking over the world diplomatically and winning the PR war. Christ is King!
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
You mean God lied and could not perpetuate the seed of Jacob-Israel?
@lisanmc4536
@lisanmc4536 2 ай бұрын
@@psalm2764 God doesn’t lie, what a dramatic reach, are you in theater, a politician or an attorney? It’s the traditional interpretation that I’m referring to.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
@@lisanmc4536 Israel is a people still scattered. What God has scattered, He will gather. Jeremiah 31, Isaiah 11.11, Ezekiel 11.17. Israel is not "the church", which is satanic. Messiah said the traditions of men trespass the commandments.
@littlecrow6484
@littlecrow6484 3 жыл бұрын
GOD has only ONE chosen people; believers in Jesus Christ. That's it. Piper is complicating this. Jesus told the Pharisees, I know you you are ( physically) descended from Abraham, but your ARE NOT spiritually his children because you don't believe in me. Don't complicate this. Paul says that a true Jew is a believer in Jesus. That's all. It's not complicated. Either you believe in Jesus or you don't.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
No. God promised He would gather His Remnant again at the end of time. Isaiah 11.11. He gathered them when He came the first time already. Ezekiel 37, Ezekiel 11.17, John 12.20-24
@robertnorthrup5415
@robertnorthrup5415 5 жыл бұрын
Rev 2:9 Rev 3:9
@Tbrownie116
@Tbrownie116 4 жыл бұрын
These two scripture puts to race any doubt who God's chosen people are...
@liwanagbautista8780
@liwanagbautista8780 4 жыл бұрын
@@anacleto_da_god no, huh? What planet are you from? Point the scripture out.
@liwanagbautista8780
@liwanagbautista8780 4 жыл бұрын
@@anacleto_da_god no, huh? What planet are you from? Point the scripture out.
@liwanagbautista8780
@liwanagbautista8780 4 жыл бұрын
@@anacleto_da_god what are you taking about?
@liwanagbautista8780
@liwanagbautista8780 4 жыл бұрын
@@anacleto_da_god you are incredibly uneducated and full of hate! Good luck.
@daughterofzionisrael517
@daughterofzionisrael517 5 жыл бұрын
Revelation 3: 9 Behold, I will make them (those FAKE Jews) of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews and are not, but do LIE; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have LOVED (12 tribes of Israel) thee. You all better study and read this Bible for yourself and do your OWN research and find out who is TRUE ISRAEL for yourself or you will have the shock of your life when Jesus returns and you find out the truth then.
@FirsfruitsArmyGal
@FirsfruitsArmyGal Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with your statement !! All Praises to The Most High Yahuah, he will be returning soon. Shalom ❤️
@lszujo73
@lszujo73 8 ай бұрын
do you think there are fake Christians? so why is it surprising to recognize that there are fake jews.....do you think there are corrupt,false hurches? God Himself promised He would deal with the sins of Jacob....the problems they have been going through the last 2500 years is pretty staggering...it's not like they have it so easy....
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
Better to distinguish - Hebrew (Jacob-Israel) and "jew" - ESAU.
@growinginfaith1670
@growinginfaith1670 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful word!
@patriciaperkins2533
@patriciaperkins2533 2 жыл бұрын
This is crazy, this is double talk
@DewittPattonYaH74
@DewittPattonYaH74 4 жыл бұрын
And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you. Deuteronomy 28:68 KJV What people went into slavery again by ships.... blacks in
@jordangarvin9282
@jordangarvin9282 4 жыл бұрын
1) So apparently Egypt (Who y'all think is America) isn't interpreted literally but the ships are?? So you just pick and choose what parts of the text you want to make literal and figurative? 2) *"and no man shall buy you."* Yet, all the slaves from the Atlantic Slave Trade were *bought.* This is sad bro. If you want the truth from the Scriptures let it speak for itself instead of adding into the text what you want it to say.
@Tbrownie116
@Tbrownie116 4 жыл бұрын
@@jordangarvin9282 You have no knowledge to be trying to correct someone...
@jordangarvin9282
@jordangarvin9282 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tbrownie116 I don't give a crescent of a ---- if you don't like my answer. You can't prove me wrong.
@williejohnson6150
@williejohnson6150 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan Garvin.... do your research potna you DONT know scriptures .. 🗣 AND NO MAN SHALL BUY THEE ... whatcha don’t understand is we still here rgt ( In America ) who saved us ereone dat stood up GOT KILLED in da land of our captivity
@jordangarvin9282
@jordangarvin9282 4 жыл бұрын
@@williejohnson6150 right..
@deepwildblue74
@deepwildblue74 7 жыл бұрын
it does makes sense, God is not a liar or author of confusion.
@nomorewar4189
@nomorewar4189 6 жыл бұрын
Yovan & Judith why did Jesus speak in Parables ? He answered that question to his disciples. It is only confusion to those who try to understand from an earthly perspective. (Those who are wise in their own eyes)
@RoseSharon7777
@RoseSharon7777 5 жыл бұрын
Yovan & Judith then stop being confused!!
@larrymurray3557
@larrymurray3557 5 жыл бұрын
What's your point???
@cfoster6804
@cfoster6804 5 жыл бұрын
@@larrymurray3557 That this pastor is twisting the word!
@ArchAngelEmmanuel
@ArchAngelEmmanuel 5 жыл бұрын
@Yovan & Judith there was nothing that made sense in this video!!!! It's pretty clear this guy is unlearned!!!!!
@maggieraveneau7470
@maggieraveneau7470 6 жыл бұрын
Praise God for INCLUDING the Gentiles into the True Vine or I would still be in darkness, without God and without hope in this world. Remember that not everyone who bears the name Christian is of the True Vine and not everyone who bears the name Israel is of the True Vine: “"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:21-23‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bear fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not presume to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father,' for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham. Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:7-10‬ ‭ESV‬‬ God is faithful and will keep His promises to His children of promise.
@gwendolyynpulliam8678
@gwendolyynpulliam8678 6 жыл бұрын
Maggie Raveneau YAH the Father of Abraham , Issac and Jacob ; and the seeds of Jacob are The Tribes of Israel ; The Hebrew Israelites . i.pinimg.com/originals/af/22/9e/af229ebbaeb7d6762baee9a327f19871.jpg
@peggymattie5191
@peggymattie5191 4 жыл бұрын
@@gwendolyynpulliam8678 Galatians 3:29=If you belong to Christ you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise
@peggymattie5191
@peggymattie5191 4 жыл бұрын
@@gwendolyynpulliam8678 the 12 tribes of Israel are all colors not just one. YESHUA was not black African as he was born in Bethlehem, Israel, not Africa. Israel is the Asian Continent. Lamentations says the Nazarites were white, Yeshua was a NAZARITE. Also the dead Sea Scrolls say Abraham's wife was white. Abraham was from Mesopotamia/Iraq, not Africa. The black people came from Ham=CANAAN. Genesis 9:18-27 talks all about it.
@rancidbutter9669
@rancidbutter9669 4 жыл бұрын
@@peggymattie5191 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@peggymattie5191
@peggymattie5191 4 жыл бұрын
@@rancidbutter9669 Do your research and you will find it is true. Genetics and DNA PROVE THAT THE WHITE JEWS ARE AUTHENTIC. There are also lots of black people who have various percentages of Jewish ancestry. The problem is people refuse to do their homework. The bible says, study to show yourself approved of God, rightly dividing the truth(from error).
@camilllesowell1836
@camilllesowell1836 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@fourltrman
@fourltrman Жыл бұрын
You are a FOOL if you believe this FOOL teaching.
@pierreparousia6993
@pierreparousia6993 6 жыл бұрын
The only chosen people are those who are in Christ(promise seed)PERIOD!!!
@gwendolyynpulliam8678
@gwendolyynpulliam8678 6 жыл бұрын
pierre Parousia This is Father YAH'S chosen seeds . Abraham , Isaac and Jacob with Moses . Jacob's name was changed to Israel and he became the father of the 12 Tribes of Israel i.pinimg.com/originals/af/22/9e/af229ebbaeb7d6762baee9a327f19871.jpg
@nicktesla3500
@nicktesla3500 6 жыл бұрын
Gwendolyyn Pulliam Galatians 3:26-29 26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise
@gwendolyynpulliam8678
@gwendolyynpulliam8678 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Tesla You had said ; we are all the children of Christ ( FATHER YAH ) BUT we are all not the children of JACOB . Abraham , Issac and Jacob are Ethiopians . JACOB'S name was changed to Israel and he became the father of the 12 Tribes of Israel . Only the seed of Jacob is Israel . i.pinimg.com/originals/af/22/9e/af229ebbaeb7d6762baee9a327f19871.jpg
@nicktesla3500
@nicktesla3500 6 жыл бұрын
Gwendolyyn Pulliam so you dont believe in new testament?
@gwendolyynpulliam8678
@gwendolyynpulliam8678 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Tesla My History comes from the old Testament . Back in the days of Genesis it was all black people , black land , black nation before the white man or Caucasians was ever thought of . The Old Testament is about Father YAH'S children and the New Testament is not accurate. Some parts have been rewritten . JeWISH people have nothing to do with Abraham , Isaac and Jacob . Now read the book of Deuteronomy to see who fits the curses . Don't you know the children of Israel came from Jacob . Now read Acts 5:30 , 10:39 and 13:29 . After you read the 3 verses in ACTS ; Ask yourself ; What people did that happen to . Remember now ; when you want to get to the real truth about FATHER YAH'S CHILDREN you have to study the old testament . Abraham , Isaac and Jacob was born in ; ZION / ALKEBULAN - The Land of The Blacks ; Now known as AFRICA . Psalm 132 : 13 - For the Lord hath chosen ZION ; he hath desired it for his habitation . PSALM 149 : 2 - Let Israel rejoice in him that made him ; Let the children of ZION be joyful in their King . Roman 11 : 26 - And so all of Israel shall be saved ; as it is written . There shall come out of ZION ( SION ) The Deliverer , and shall turn away ungodliness for JACOB .
@amanda8399
@amanda8399 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, Amen. This is right. This does not contradict what Revelation seems to say about the Jewish male virgins. GOD will still do something great with the literal , ethnic people of Israel at the end of time as we know it.
@pierreparousia6993
@pierreparousia6993 6 жыл бұрын
@ Amanda 83... nonsense
@davemaxwell7262
@davemaxwell7262 6 жыл бұрын
pierre Parousia Chapter and verse?
@nomorewar4189
@nomorewar4189 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Maxwell why don’t you ask Amanda for chapter and verse for the original claim ?
@davemaxwell7262
@davemaxwell7262 6 жыл бұрын
Armin Mantei Because I know the verses she's using... (KJV) Revelation 7:3-8 and Revelation 14:3-4 144,000 Jews...12,000 from each of the 12 tribes... and their all male virgins because they haven't been defiled with "women"...
@davemaxwell7262
@davemaxwell7262 6 жыл бұрын
Armin Mantei Also... Leviticus 26:13-46 Jeremiah 31:35-37 Ezekiel 36:22-36 Jeremiah 30:7 (Jacobs name was changed to Israel in Genesis...) Romans 11:1-5 Romans 11:25-27 .... Basically the entire chapter of Romans 11....
@user-sn5zs9qh4w
@user-sn5zs9qh4w 8 ай бұрын
Only those who are of the seed ( seed means in christ)of Abraham
@mikefaumuina3275
@mikefaumuina3275 3 жыл бұрын
Hazael was the Wind Jehu was the Earthquake Elisha the Fire and the 7000 Israeli believers were the Still Small Voice, who are Paul’s Israel of God of Galatians 6.
@traviscarr6002
@traviscarr6002 2 жыл бұрын
Read Deuteronomy 28: -30 it will give you the gift and the curses of his people. That’s where you find out who Israel is. Who fits that description? (black Americans and others that been enslaved in the transatlantic slave trade. But they dnt want you to know that !!!!
@thetruthhurts131
@thetruthhurts131 Жыл бұрын
He would lose his congregation if he did that.
@chidouzoegbo7997
@chidouzoegbo7997 6 ай бұрын
OK this begs the question what about blacks of Africa then.... Cos if you saying it's just black Americans that's strange as slaves where captured or sold randomly
@travstarrmusikvideos3938
@travstarrmusikvideos3938 6 ай бұрын
Bible said he will spread his people and all the four corners of the earth 🌍. Israel comes in all colors and backgrounds but the curses still fit as well as the blessings
@adrien1623
@adrien1623 2 ай бұрын
@@chidouzoegbo7997yes many Africans are also descended from israelites(Shem) but not all. It’s pretty much half and half if you take out the North African Arab population. Bloodline israel fled to Africa and some parts of Middle East in roman conquest of 70 AD. This is hidden history but a fact and documented. These African israelites Lost their culture and way of life after colonization not long after and assimilation with the native Africans in North Africa. They eventually moved downward into west Africa and then south and east with Bantu expansion. Most Niger-congo people, and Bantu, are descended from Isaac Jacob/Israel and Joseph. Jesus is described as black in Daniel 7:9 and 10:6. I see you have Chi in your name so you must be Igbo. There is a Israelite community in Nigeria amkngst the igbos. “The son of Yaakov, Jacob, [was] Gad and I learned that he was among those people who went out of Israel to exile,” Abor says. “So from there he had a son called Eri and a son gave birth to a son called Aguleri and that's how the Igbo race began.”
@peopleschamp43
@peopleschamp43 2 ай бұрын
You are correct , me being a black "American " I still can't believe or even allow myself to think I'm of his chosen lineage because of all the chaos that's associated with being black in America.
@RoseSharon7777
@RoseSharon7777 4 жыл бұрын
This verse is referring to the elect vs the non elect. Chosen vs. Called. The 144,000 vs Ephriam. Gen 48:19. (Ephriam =gentiles).
@ellasspace
@ellasspace Жыл бұрын
Gentiles means nations and should never have been included the way it was they were sent to the Hebrew nations (gentiles) both the same meaning : Hebrew people who were sent a kinsman redeemer. Israel was divorced for idolatry however and now all who believe in love the kinsman redeemer can be saved.
@RoseSharon7777
@RoseSharon7777 Жыл бұрын
@@ellasspace If we believe in the WORDS spoken by the kinsmen redeemers (prophets zech 7:12), not in the actual person speaking. Psalm 146:3. The father is ONE ALONE all by himself and worthy of ALL our worship and service. 1st commandment. :)
@ellasspace
@ellasspace Жыл бұрын
@@RoseSharon7777 Jesus is the redeemer He and the Father are ONE
@RoseSharon7777
@RoseSharon7777 Жыл бұрын
@@ellasspace All sons born of the fathers spirit are ONE with him. Read your bible.
@RoseSharon7777
@RoseSharon7777 Жыл бұрын
@@ellasspace You must offer your life as a sacrifice for others dear. That is the message. There are many saviors of the seed of David God has sent as clearly stated in the OT.
@margaret7337
@margaret7337 Ай бұрын
Titus 1:14 “Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.” King James Version (KJV)
@margaret7337
@margaret7337 Ай бұрын
Titus 1:14 “Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.” King James Version (KJV)
@margaret7337
@margaret7337 Ай бұрын
You only find the word Jewish in the bible Titus 1:14 “Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.” King James Version (KJV)
@malcolmpillay6244
@malcolmpillay6244 Жыл бұрын
So the question to ask - is there a second chance for the natural Israel that exists today? As some preachers determine that God is still going to give the natural Israel that exists today to be offered the opportunity to be saved?
@bjedsum902
@bjedsum902 8 ай бұрын
Im thinking the same. I think there 144,000 from the 12 tribes who are sealed in Christ Jesus in Revelation. They will be grafted back in until the completion of the gentiles.
@kimmykimko
@kimmykimko 8 ай бұрын
There exists the same chance. If they repent they will be saved. Romans 11.
@malcolmpillay6244
@malcolmpillay6244 8 ай бұрын
@@kimmykimko Amen that's the only way!
@lisaw2504
@lisaw2504 6 ай бұрын
​@bjedsum902 the 144,000 are those faithful from the original tribes ,who were redeemed from the earth meaning dead . They came down with Jesus from the throne... and all Christians come from the 4 corners to meet them .
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
@@bjedsum902 the 144.000 are male virgins. Infants slaughtered under Pharao and Herod. How kind of God to think of them first. "gentiles" is fiction. We are dealing with Jacob-Israel who is still scattered and Esau who is counterfeiting him.
@bobseaver7807
@bobseaver7807 4 жыл бұрын
Someone need to explain to this guy that not all Israelites are Jews... it was just the 2 tribes(Judah, and Benjamin) that made up the southern kingdom of Judah. The people from the other 10 tribes are not Jews. It’s not rocket science.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
Judah was a tribe that absorbed Simeon and some of the Levites. Benjamin was part of Israel. "jews" are Esau. Hebrews are Jacob-Israel. It is indeed not rocket science, but most have no idea.
@AdamRTNewman
@AdamRTNewman 5 жыл бұрын
The true and living substance of Israelhood, in the New Covenant era, is indeed the Church. This is not because the Church replaced Israel, but because when Jesus came to Israel to become Israel's cornerstone, unbelieving Israelites were cut off and believing Gentiles were grafted in - see the Romans 11 olive tree, noting it's not an old olive tree being uprooted and new one planted, but only branches broken off and others grafted in. Hence the resulting Israel is one-and-the-same as the Church. (The only potential complication to this is perhaps when a Jewish person was already a saint before hearing about Jesus and His death and resurrection, in like manner to how Old Testament saints were saved - probable example being Lydia before she heard and received the Gospel - NOT to say she would've remained a saint if she'd rejected Jesus). Yet this truth does not forbid God from still having a special recognition of the physical people of Israel. God can still follow the physical descendancy of Israel, and have plans for them, even while in the current moment (before their great revival), the majority are as dead men in relation to the true substance of Israelhood. It would be good if those who recognise the Church as spiritual Israel don't use this truth to rule out God having plans for physical Israel. And it would be good if those who recognise God's plans for physical Israel don't think they're doing this truth a favour by denying the Church as spiritual Israel.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
the church is satanic. come out of her.
@gregorys99
@gregorys99 7 жыл бұрын
What additional materials can be recommended for further research on this subject that agrees with John Piper and further develop his point?
@rjreader7755
@rjreader7755 6 жыл бұрын
the best ever is called "the church is Israel Now" .this book is 100% scripture-no commentary and it organizes this topic into every area of life.
@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486
@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is futurism and preterism have invaded the churches as a malign tumor, eating the truth that once was the same as the apostles and the post reformation believers such as John Knox, John Wycliffe , Luther, Huss, Spurgeon. Watch joggler66, Karl Tester and David Nikao Wilcoxson channels. They are historicists and have biblically sounded doctrine. These are writers from the post Reformation church: “Romanism and the Reformation by the Standpoint of Prophecy” by Henry Grattan Guinness “Horae Apocaliptcae” by Edward Bishop Elliot “The Two Babylons” by Alexander Hislop “The Seventh Seal” by James Aitken Wylie.
@Ifyouonlyknewtruth
@Ifyouonlyknewtruth 3 ай бұрын
Christ was born of the tribe of Judah.Judah went under the cures . That have ended and the loving reunion of Gods own children and him is taking place as the world winds down approaching the hereafter He said : . I was not sent but unto the House of real ISREAL …………………………………::
@ddeeforex2475
@ddeeforex2475 4 жыл бұрын
Hebrews 12:16‭-‬17 [16]Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. [17]For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
Esau is dwelling in the tents of Jacob-Israel.
@IndyGirlAMB
@IndyGirlAMB 3 жыл бұрын
Very very good way of teaching and bringing out this truth ! God bless !
@calledisrael434
@calledisrael434 3 ай бұрын
True Israel are they that follow the true prophet /son of God sent to redeem us - Yeshu ha Moshiach ;/ Jesus Christ.. which excludes most of JUDAH - the choice is yours family!! choose wisely as we are in the Last Week !!!!!!! ...Maranatha Shalom ....old Messianic Jew.
@ChristianUnityTruthSetsFree
@ChristianUnityTruthSetsFree Ай бұрын
God loves everyone. Jesus died for all people. We are all equal in the eyes of God. God finds Palestinians beautiful too and are worthy of a good life too. Just as Black People's lives were discriminated against during Apartheid, this cannot continue. Even the current Israel is a political and geographical Israel that was instituted by Britain. It is not the ancient, original Israel. neither are thy the promise of Jesus Christ, since they deny Him and hate others. So why are some Christians blindly misquoting ols testament scripture? This is not of the Holy Spirit. It's their heads and ignorance. What did Jesus give as the greatest commandment (Matthew 22:36-40)? "Love one another, as I have loved you" and "Love your neighbour as yourself" (Matthew 22:36-40), and on this hangs all the law and the prophets. Christians that side with this wickedness disobey Christ and do not love Jesus and what He sacrificed on the cross. They are not of Jesus Christ. Jesus said “If you love Me, keep my commandments,”(John 14:21).”He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be lived by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.” Discrimination of any kind is not of Jesus Christ.Everyone has the opportunity to be the child of the promise. The people who hear the voice of Jesus and do what Jesus says: are my people of Israel, My Overcomers, the Victorious ones, literally the Israelites of God. Revelation 3:20-21 Not ethnic Israel, but the genuine Christian Israel of God. Galatians 6:15-16. Jesus sent His Disciple-Apostles to Israel and Israel alone. Their mission was amazingly successful, resulting in the millions of Christians worldwide. Revelation 3:20.They didn’t disobey Jesus’ Command, because the people who heard the Gospel and who responded, plainly were Israelites, the ‘dispersion’, as John 7:35 informs us.
@kens.8811
@kens.8811 3 жыл бұрын
The promises of God were made to Abraham and Christ. To be a child of God (true spiritual Israel), one must be born or born again supernaturally by the will of God, like Isaac by faith, not naturally, not by the will of man, like Ishmael and his other half brothers. The birth of Isaac was a foreshadow of the birth of Christ and those spiritually reborn by faith in Christ (Christians). Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. Rom.9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. Gal.3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. Gal.3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
@kens.8811
@kens.8811 2 жыл бұрын
@UC5hlWt2XAVQ5QDO5sCTSBiA One being born physically is implicitly understood, unless you know of someone who isn't?
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo 2 жыл бұрын
Act 3:19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, Act 3:20 and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, Act 3:21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.
@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486
@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486 2 жыл бұрын
Amen brother. All that believe are Israel, which means “he who perseveres WITH God”. We are the new bottles filled with new wine. The new covenant spoken in Isaiah and Jeremiah. The problem is that futurism and preterism invaded the church in the early 1800’s and pushed the faith that was once believed by the apostles and post Reformation church. The Bible is a historic book. That is ONE of the great characteristics of this Holy Book and it is why is called the Word of God. The Lord has left us in written all that have past, that is passing and that will pass, for He is in control of everything. His WILL will be done for His glory, for the sake of His people and for the implantation of His kingdom.
@manseth3
@manseth3 5 жыл бұрын
This is a lot of run around , that doesn't dig into the teaching of every thing Romans 9 teaches.
@kingjames256
@kingjames256 5 жыл бұрын
He Lives he’s explaining the couple of verses not the whole chapter.. this helps with covenant and dispensational theology not explanation of grace via Romans 9
@chadprince9511
@chadprince9511 4 жыл бұрын
He Lives they confuse people by not answering the question directly
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
If people would read the WHOLE Bible, they would know who ESAU is and "the jew" and "the Greek" and who is an Israelite and who an "Israeli".
@intellwarrior
@intellwarrior Жыл бұрын
Such a fascinating lecture by John Piper - referencing what credibility St. Paul wrote about being led by Rabbi Gamaliel is essential. R. Gamaliel was a leading authority in the Sanhedrin in the early first-century Common Era (CE). He was the son of Simeon ben Hillel and grandson of the great Jewish teacher Hillel, the Elder (Wikipedia: Gamaliel). The great R. Hillel the Elder was one of the most influential figures in Jewish history; he is associated with developing the Mishnah - the oral traditions by example, and the Talmud - the central text of Rabbinic Judaism and the primary source of Jewish religious law (halakha). Renowned within Judaism as a sage and scholar, R. Hillel was the founder of the House of Hillel school for Tannaïm (Sages of the Mishnah) and the founder of a dynasty of Sages who stood at the head of the Jews living in the Land of Israel until roughly the fifth century of the CE. Hillel lived in Jerusalem at the time of Herod the Great. Case in point? St. Paul the Apostle learned from the excellent scribes, scholars, and Doctors of the Law. Sources: Wikipedia (Gamaliel); Jewish Encyclopedia (Hillel); Abrahamic Study Hall (Hillel the Elder)
@dmc8851
@dmc8851 Жыл бұрын
You speak as if the Talmud and Mishnah are good?
@williamcarr3976
@williamcarr3976 Жыл бұрын
And exactly what drew the rebuke of Jesus on the Pharisees..
@yourtube540
@yourtube540 4 жыл бұрын
The Bible makes it clear that Jesus is Israel. Therefore, if you are not in Christ, you are not Israel. Matthew 2:15 Are Jews that practice Judaism in Christ?
@freespirit7450
@freespirit7450 2 жыл бұрын
The jews crucified Jesus.
@fourltrman
@fourltrman Жыл бұрын
@@freespirit7450 And what is your point?
@ILLGOOD
@ILLGOOD 6 жыл бұрын
1875 BC Jacob and Family to Egypt, Genesis 46. 1446 BC The Exodus Begins, Exodus 13 - 18. This is the only slavery God sent someone to. If you're not apart of this time and place, God don't want you. This is the CHOSEN! These ancient people has descendants that went back into slavery in SHIPS! Yes, all over the world told in Deuteronomy 28:68. (Europeans are called our enemies)
@barraget3727
@barraget3727 3 жыл бұрын
Wack job
@YahuahsDaughterLuke
@YahuahsDaughterLuke 2 жыл бұрын
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
European means Hebrew. Hebrews are white and still scattered.
@ILLGOOD
@ILLGOOD 2 ай бұрын
@@psalm2764 Tell yourself lies, and leave out scriptures. I don't care.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
@@ILLGOOD The Great White Throne will dispel all your doubts before it sends you on your way.
@williamlis7947
@williamlis7947 5 жыл бұрын
We are saved by grace not race.
@bennunn9009
@bennunn9009 3 жыл бұрын
Read the Bible Deuteronomy 28
@ChristisKing9292
@ChristisKing9292 6 ай бұрын
​​@@bennunn9009Read the Bible Hebrews 8:13, Romans 11
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
@@bennunn9009 blacks are Canaan. Quit trying to steal our identity.
@joshmalone4246
@joshmalone4246 2 күн бұрын
Save from what??? Lol 😂
@granthodges3012
@granthodges3012 3 күн бұрын
Romans 11 (while substituting the Church for Israel): v. 2 "God has not rejected His Church whom He foreknew"; v 7 "What the Church is seeking, it has not obtained"; v 8 “God gave the Church a spirit of stupor"; v 11 "But by the Church's wrongdoing salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous."; v 17 "But by the Church's wrongdoing salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous."; v 21 "for if God did not spare the Church's branches"; v 22 "" See then the kindness and severity of God: to the Church who fell, severity"; v 23 "And the Church also, if the Church does not continue in the Church's unbelief, will be grafted in; for God is able to graft the Church in again."; v 25 "that a partial hardening has happened to the Church until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in". Do you now see how dumb Reformed theology is in denying the future destiny of Israel? I'm no gung ho dispensationalist, but I can read. Why can't the Reformed theologians? Because they have followed the traditions of men as they came out of the Catholic and Anglican church into the reformation churches and in to the seminaries and then to spill poison against the Jews from the pulpits. John Piper trails along after traditionalists and professors who follow the trend which today is to hate the Jews because Biden hates the Jews and wishes their downfall. They can deny they follow in the Catholic legacy of Inquisitions, ghettos, deportations, limits on occupation, and censorship practiced against Jews . . . but if it all works out the same, what are the point of their words. Can't prove this last point, but I bet Piper and company vote for Biden.
@messianicagejudaism
@messianicagejudaism 5 жыл бұрын
Romans 11: 2 God has not rejected his people who are in the flesh...God has selected a remnant to himself. God has promised to gather his people in the flesh. Isaiah 11:11-13 Did God lie? NEVER. God will save his people to gather all his people from the four corners of the earth. Save from what? from the curses and deception worshiping foreign gods. Revelation 18:4-6 which our forefathers received because they broke God's covenant to follow foreign gods. God already saved his people by confirming his new covenant when the Messiah came in 30AD. This event only confirms Jeremiah 31:31-34 Did God lie? NEVER. When the Messiah came those ( physical Jews in Judea) who believe in the new covenant through Messiah were saved from the curses of the Law and deception of the Pharisees. However, they were adopted through the spirit to practice God's righteousness. That means they were elevated to a higher standard to observe God's commandments and act according to his righteousness. Not believing in the new covenant constituted a sin and rejection from God. Abraham believed him to follow God's instructions and was considered a righteous man before God. In like manner, God's people from the DNA of Jacob will fulfill the end time prophesies according to Romans 11:2-5 and be considered righteous like Abraham for believing the new covenant. In turn, we have to teach all nations the truth of this new covenant to those who are israelite descend and also non israelites. Acts 13: 16, 17,47-48 Read it carefully. God will graft those people who has israelite descend in them as gentiles and counted as offspring and those who fear the Lord as converts. . Romans 9:4,5 and 7. A true israelite is from Jacob's descend not just from Abraham or Isaac but through Jacob. Somebody might ask...so who is an israelite? God will call out his people from deception ( church deception) and bring them to the light or truth. He will instruct you to know who are the truth israelites. The true israelites were of white complexion ( olive skin) from the Levant and Cimmerian or Aramean culture from the East. Please flee from Babylon the Great ( Church deception and so called Hebrew Israelite movement deception) so that the Most High can bring you to the light. Please open y our heart and mind to learn from his true children as he instructed through his Word that will happen in the end times.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
All of Jesus Disciples were Israelites - what did he say to Nathanael: Behold, an Israelite in whom there is no guile. "jews" are Esau and they know it.
@jayjohnson7708
@jayjohnson7708 4 жыл бұрын
Through Abraham, Isaac and Jacob's seed are the Children of Israel only. It's not that hard to understand.
@devinlinkme6025
@devinlinkme6025 4 жыл бұрын
Terrance Moe you god that church doctrine. Gods chosen people is Israel.. it is a covenant that last FOREVER! yes gentiles can also get into the kingdom and be grafted in but Gods chosen people is Israel.. Abraham Isaac and Jacob.. a bloodline. Not that complicated
@lovenotes8706
@lovenotes8706 4 жыл бұрын
Romans 9:8 this means it is NOT the children of the FLESH who are the children of God, but children of the promise are counted as offspring. Children of flesh describing a flesh would be skin tone, culture, hair color ECT. The children of promise were predestined before the world began . predestined souls, doesn't matter what fleshly body they come in.
@devinlinkme6025
@devinlinkme6025 4 жыл бұрын
Danielle Rose who are the children of the promise? Israel right?
@mr.e1220
@mr.e1220 4 жыл бұрын
@@devinlinkme6025 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise. (Galatians 3:26-29 ESV)
@devinlinkme6025
@devinlinkme6025 4 жыл бұрын
The Defrost yeah I know that. The gentile-Israelites like Paul’s letter to the romans wasn’t sent to Rome but the gentile-Israelites. Sometimes Paul’s letters throw me left because seems like he’s talking about that the real gentiles can be grafted in I just learned this like a month ago.
@gunorijssel7987
@gunorijssel7987 4 жыл бұрын
Simple question: why do you start with Romans to find an answer to this question? WHY?? What made Romans THE AUTHORITY on this subject???
@cookingwithcannabis4775
@cookingwithcannabis4775 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a book from the New Testament God made scripture the authority
@fourltrman
@fourltrman Жыл бұрын
@@cookingwithcannabis4775 Yea well go read a TON of other passages that point to the fact that you are wrong... FOOL
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
I agree. Start at genesis and move all through. The secret to the identity of "the jew" is in Obadiah, Malachi 1, Ezekiel 35 & 35. And Isaiah 63.
@zamdopaminedamaker338
@zamdopaminedamaker338 2 жыл бұрын
This pastors perspective that does not correlate with the scripture, what that verse means is just cause u are from the chosen one doesn’t mean u are immune to Gods punishment, if u don’t follow he’s commandments u are just as guilty as the non chosen ones, but he stilll doesn’t say who the Israeli are
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
Israelites are NOT Israelis as Jacob-Israel is not Esau.
@cristiananaella4760
@cristiananaella4760 2 ай бұрын
👍
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo 5 жыл бұрын
The New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34 is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and is specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:18-24. The ultimate fulfillment of Israel is found in Matthew 1:1, and is confirmed by Paul in Galatians 3:16. Christ said the "son" is "heir" to the land in Matthew chapter 21, and also said the kingdom would be taken from those who reject Him as the "chief cornerstone". It would be given to the "holy nation" which accepts the "chief cornerstone" found in 1 Peter 2:4-10. In Acts 2:36 Peter addressed the crowd as "all the house of Israel". On that day about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant and confirmed Paul's words in Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 9:27, and Romans 11:1-5. When the Church began it was made up of faithful Israelites. James addressed his letter to "the twelve tribes", who were his "brethren" in "faith". Is a man or woman's relationship with God now based on who his parents would be, or on a relationship with God's Son?
@Super1nobody
@Super1nobody 4 жыл бұрын
I like the message, but I wish people would stop misusing the word Jew. The word Jew was coined to describe a person who lived in Judea, without regard for race; much like you call someone from Texas a Texan. Although some Israelites were Jews, not all Jews were Israelites. Sometimes the scriptures use the word Jew in place of Judite, when talking about the tribe of Judah. It's misleading. There were 12 tribes, and only 3 of them lived in Judea. The remaining became known as the dispersed, nations, and Gentiles. All of these were children of the promise, descended from Isaac; not just Judites, Benjamites, and Levites. Anglo-Saxon means " Isaac's Sons ".
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
a jew is not Judah, a jew is Esau, the counterfeit. The problem is the conflation of issues: the jew is Esau and not israel, neither is he Judah, who was taken into Babylonian captivity and sold Greece. That is why Judah is called "the Greek" in the NT. John 12.20-24
@boaz63
@boaz63 7 ай бұрын
Missed the point in the text itself - “not all” means “only some” - this is immediately illustrated by the example of only through Isaac - “not all” the sons of Abraham, but “only one” in this case - Isaac, not Ishmael. The promise is from Gen 15. God’s choice or election is what makes the difference. “Not all” Israel but “only some” of the descendants of Israel are elect by God for His Salvation. They are “the Israel of God”. When God says “not all” the sons of Abraham, that doesn’t mean he rejects his descendants entirely and goes to sons of Pharaoh or some other person’s sons. He limits Himself to Abraham’s sons by His covenant with Abraham, but elects only one - Isaac, not Ishmael - to be the son of promise. He also says that through him “all the nations will be blessed”. This is how Gentiles are benefitted. But there was always an elect remnant within Israel. God is keeping His promise to them, not redefining the term “Israel” entirely. 🙏
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
This is true, but only some want to hear it.
@lionsden2835
@lionsden2835 Жыл бұрын
I was going through the scriptures and noticed what Jesus said to the Jews Mat_21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a NATION bringing forth the fruits thereof. Then I noticed that Peter wrote to Christians. 1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an HOLY NATION, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Does this mean that the nation Peter was referring to is the same nation Jesus was talking about ?
@comm2190
@comm2190 Жыл бұрын
Yes. See who Peter addresses his epistle to at the very beginning of Ch 1.
@lionsdenstreetpride144
@lionsdenstreetpride144 5 жыл бұрын
As much as Brother John onows and can elaborate on......(because he is a genius)......REALITY IS....he does not really know who True Israel is and who Yashua came for. THIS TRUTH IS VERY RELEVANT TO SALVATION.
@GodWillMusic
@GodWillMusic 4 жыл бұрын
LIONS DEN STREET PRIDE he doesn’t know much as far as the Bible is concerned.
@lucasmcdonald837
@lucasmcdonald837 4 жыл бұрын
Of course we know who True Israel is. Paul tells us in Galatians 3: "If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." And he tells us more emphatically in Ephesians 2: "...remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, EXCLUDED FROM CITIZENSHIP in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. BUT NOW in Christ Jesus, you (Gentiles) who were once far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ....His purpose was to create in Himself ONE NEW MAN out of the two...Consequently, you are NO LONGER foreigners and aliens, but FELLOW CITIZENS [of Israel] with God's people and members of God's household." This is not Replacement Theology...it's Fulfillment Theology. The Gentiles being grafted in to the natural branch completes the picture. The Church doesn't replace Israel. The Church is Israel. Israel = God's people = Abraham's offspring = all those in Christ Jesus
@tothetop2498
@tothetop2498 4 жыл бұрын
Lucas McDonald - Not quite. Gods house has always been available to to the stranger. For his house is a house of prayer to all people Isaiah 56. The question of who is True Israel is a question not that of spirituality (which is available to all) but of those who are ordained to teach Gods word. In which only one nation has been given that right. Gentiles or Sons of Japheth are not supposed to teach the Holy Scriptures in the pulpit. It’s why we have “another Jesus.” If you read Ephesians 2 in KJV the verse you gave is read differently Verse 19: Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God So it’s not citizenship in Israel which in NIV makes it sounds like a place, it’s with Israel (or the saints). Look up what a saint is.. The Israelites can be found in Deuteronomy 28. Especially the curses because all of prophecy has yet to be fulfilled.
@FreedominChrist45
@FreedominChrist45 4 жыл бұрын
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@barraget3727
@barraget3727 3 жыл бұрын
It's Jesus not ya-who-a
@romanisrael7122
@romanisrael7122 4 жыл бұрын
The children of the promise are the Israelites. Romans 9:1-4
@mr.e1220
@mr.e1220 4 жыл бұрын
for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise. (Galatians 3:26-29 ESV)
@lauras3002
@lauras3002 3 жыл бұрын
@Roman Israel they were. New testament, new covenant, new circumcision, new family. Jesus changes everything❤! Every nation, tribe, and tongue will kneel before the throne of God.
@robertL7368
@robertL7368 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.e1220 lol, what a joke
@mr.e1220
@mr.e1220 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertL7368 I don't know what part is a joke. I believe according to the narrative of the scripture that Greeks in the context is referring to scattered Israelites from the 10 scattered tribes living as gentiles. Living as uncircumcised, unclean because they must of had the law, they were shunned for rejecting Torah and divorced by YHWH.
@nomorewar4189
@nomorewar4189 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertL7368 - you think the word is a joke - I guess your in denial then.
@onetimelovely
@onetimelovely 3 жыл бұрын
His explanation make sense. Promise child =Isaac "with" Sara. Abraham couldn't wait, he had children by another woman, (humans taking things in their own hands) the children he had, THEY ARE NOT the PROMISE that God made with Abraham therefore....🤷🏾‍♀️ He(God) will ONLY BLESS "Isaac" and his dependence. Not his half-brother by his maid.
@wasimsheik4654
@wasimsheik4654 3 жыл бұрын
Ismael is the true seed,read your scriptures
@chaleej5571
@chaleej5571 2 жыл бұрын
6 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, 7 nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” 8 That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. Heb11:20 By faith, Isaac... (The point is not Isaac's physical birth at all but they he had the same faith as Abraham.) Paul is writing to the uncircumcised Gentiles in Galatia to warn them not to fall for those who wanted them to live according to the Jewish law of circumcision and diet. Paul's emphasis to them is that they are saved by the same gospel as Abraham, who "believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." (Gal3:6-8) Although these Gentiles have no real genetic bond to Abraham, the connection by faith is again what really matters, such that those uncircumcised Gentiles "as Isaac was, are children of promise." Gal3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 *And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.* *Gal**4:28** Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise.* 29 But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now. 30 Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.” 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free.
@fourltrman
@fourltrman Жыл бұрын
@@wasimsheik4654 Again you are a fool. Have fun roasting in fire with your child molesting false prophet.
@iglesiaagapecalvarychapelr6982
@iglesiaagapecalvarychapelr6982 2 жыл бұрын
that is a stretch. Paul is LIMITING the rejection of Israel to those who are of Abraham's blood but NOT of faith. His OPENING statement is being ignored... Has God's promise to Israel failed since not all Israel will be saved? NO because IF You are Jewish, but DONT believe, then you are not the recipient of the promises to Abraham.. (Through your seed ALL the Nations will be blessed and many other promises) BUT if you ARE a descendant of Abraham AND you believe, THEN the SALVATION of the JEW will be fulfilled in YOU and those who ALSO believe. You cannot use this to ADD in others who never belonged to Israel in the first place. There are OTHER passages that imply this but in a different way than the Jew of Faith who IS the OLIVE TREE to which other branches are grafted into.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
"the jew" is talmudic Esau.
@User_at_777
@User_at_777 Жыл бұрын
All the promises are in Christ. If you are in Christ, you inherit all the promises due Israel. Galatians 3:16 KJV Now to Abraham *_and his seed were the promises made._* He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, *_which is Christ._*
@TheGenoharris
@TheGenoharris 4 жыл бұрын
That was no lesson...that was confusion......
@mr.e1220
@mr.e1220 4 жыл бұрын
He's long-winded but what he is telling you is that you don't have to be born Of The Bloodline of Abraham to be in the family of God or to be in the people of Israel. A true child of Abraham are those that have the Faith of Christ Jesus and keep the Commandments. They are the true Israelite. God can make an Israelite or a child of Abraham from Stone if he wants to. Ethnicity doesn't matter. You don't have to go back and be born a child of Abraham you already are in Christ.for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise. (Galatians 3:26-29 ESV)
@DGtheLevite
@DGtheLevite 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.e1220 The devil has deceived the whole world through Christianity (revelation 12:9). You don't even understand what you are reading or learned from your pastor. Keep reading Galatian chapter 4:3-5, Acts 5:30-32, Romans 9:1-5, and you will find out that God's promise and everything else were only for Israel.
@mr.e1220
@mr.e1220 3 жыл бұрын
@@DGtheLevite I totally agree. Differing opinions and research. I believe everything is about Israel and all prophecies have been fulfilled.
@lorealmoore6862
@lorealmoore6862 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.e1220 Well said.
@mr.e1220
@mr.e1220 3 жыл бұрын
@@DGtheLevite u may disagree, but Galatians 4 is letting u know that these things like Abraham, Hagar, Sara, are all ALLEGORIES. The letter kills because man literally interprets it, but the spirit gives life. I agree that religion is in deception. I stand by God's word, but it is metaphor. Seeking His Kingdom is going within ourselves into the temple NOT made with hands. By meditation, we find the true meaning behind the commands of God. It is alot deeper than obeying your mother and father. Our mother is Jerusalem from above, and that is the Higher Mind of Christ that WE must activate. By shutting off religion and what u learned literally and listening to God that resides within us. 🙏
@alanbaker1999
@alanbaker1999 7 ай бұрын
What I get from this explanation is that ALL descendants of Isaac are the true Israel? Implying that some ethnic Jews are to be saved without being born again? Similar confusion when we say pray for Israel who or what do we mean? Physical land, all Jewish people?
@dude8223
@dude8223 7 ай бұрын
I dont know what dude is on about, but I will tell you the truth. If you don't, just ask and I will give u verses. The ethnic Jew was God's Chosen ppl, they r called Israel and where the children of the promise. But not all believed the promise, not all kept the Covenant, nor did they spread God's promise to the world. So not ALL who r of Israel is Israel. And because of unbelief, they where cut off, no longer a child of promise, no longer a true Jew, no longer Israel. But anyone who believes in Jesus, even the ethnic jew is now TRUE ISRAEL, a descendant of Abraham, a child of the promise, a biblical jew. Circumcision, bloodline has NOTHING to do with who is a true biblical jew. The church, the Christian, the beleivers in Christ is now the children of the promise. We are true Israel, true Jews, truly Chosen and we exist worldview. Those ethnic jews in the state of Israel are not jews, they are descended from Abraham, but God cut them off because they did not beleive. They can be returned to the promise, but only by faith just like anyone else. Every NON believing jew that dies will perish. The church DOD NOT replace the jew, we became them. There was allways 2 groups of etnic jews. Those that had faith in the promised Messiah, aka Jesus, and those that had faith in the works of animal sacrifice. Those jews that had faith in God's promise where saved by faith in a Messiah they never met that was 2thousand yrs in their future. We are saved by faith in the same Messiah we never met that was 2 thousand yrs on our past. The rest where cut off, cast out by God. When the Bible talks about Israel, IT IS NOT talk8ng about a place on a map, just like when it says church it is not taking about a building. It is talking about ppl, biblical jews that have put their faith in the promised Messiah of God, Jesus. They have allways existed as bekeiving ethnic jews. The non beleiving ethnic Jews Christ called the synagogues of Satan. He said they call themselves jews but are not. After Christ was crucified anyone could become a jew by faith. It has nothing to do with bloodlines, or race. Gal.3:29 if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. If you do not belong to Christ, you are cut off, not of Abraham for unbeleif. Rom. 11:20 But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. Anyone who has faith in Christ , the same faith that many Old Testament Jews had, then u r grafted into their promise by faith. Rom. 11 And if some of the branches ( non beleiving ethnic jews )be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, ( by faith) and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; (That is u become a child of the promise, a descendant of Abraham, a jew, Israel.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
"jews" are Esau, Jacob-Israel are Hebrews and still scattered. Read Obadiah, Ezekiel 35 & 36. Pharisees aer Edomite. They have their own "law" and they are anti-Christ and waiting for their moshiach.
@JP11
@JP11 4 жыл бұрын
The church of the LORD Jesus Christ is the righteous remnant - the TRUE, virgin Israel.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
The church is satanic.
@iamthelivingone
@iamthelivingone 8 ай бұрын
There are very few men i can trust to be led by the Holy Spirit, John Piper is one of those men.
@hexadanus4185
@hexadanus4185 7 ай бұрын
you are so lost, just like Piper
@ngozinwachukwu158
@ngozinwachukwu158 7 ай бұрын
Definitely
@Elleroch1990
@Elleroch1990 4 жыл бұрын
Powerful Word this can’t be understood by the natural mind but Only by the spirit of GOD
@romanisrael7122
@romanisrael7122 4 жыл бұрын
Rochelle Ferguson That white jesus aint gonna save you
@Elleroch1990
@Elleroch1990 4 жыл бұрын
richard jordan the Jesus I serve has no image
@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486
@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486 2 жыл бұрын
Are you a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ? So, you are part of the new Israel. You are the new bottle filled with new wine, a better wine served later at the wedding.
@kdw8336
@kdw8336 2 жыл бұрын
So who are the gentiles?
@CarollemMen-cl8nz
@CarollemMen-cl8nz 28 күн бұрын
The problem is that people think that when a person says I am Jew that, tha makes them the choen people of God. NO, you don't believe in Jesus Christ the Author and Finisher of our FAITH. The End of the Law. There is neither Jew or Greek. They boast in saying we are Jews but feel entitled but really God said his people must be HOLY and live GODLY and believe what the scriptures say and the prophets foretold them about the Messiah. God said be HOLY. Many Jews in Israel are not spiritual nor live holy and worship God. They had possession of Canaan Land already but due to disobedience God bought forth chastisement and Curses as he described in Deuteronomy 28. Yet, they shall be engrafted back onto the Olive Tree.
@gregorys99
@gregorys99 7 жыл бұрын
Great sermon. All true Christians are the true children of promise and thus the true Israel of God as their second birth has been divinely miraculous hence Romans 2:25-29.
@jacobstravail
@jacobstravail 6 жыл бұрын
Gregory S. Gill yeah grafted in not natural branches. God never negates his promise to the nation of Israel there are a Remnant that will be saved that will constitute the nation of Israel where Jesus Christ will literally Rule and Reign from the House of David. Bad hermeneutics and exegesis equals false Doctrine not forget
@HappyPenguin75034
@HappyPenguin75034 8 ай бұрын
incorrect. Why do you not study Revelation.
@rlhicks1
@rlhicks1 7 ай бұрын
@@jacobstravail 100% correct!
@ryangallmeier6647
@ryangallmeier6647 5 жыл бұрын
Q. Where is the first place in Scripture that "Israel" is mentioned? A. Gen. 32:22-32. The name "Israel" was a SPIRITUAL name given by God to Jacob ("heel-catcher"; "deceiver"), when he wrestled with God. The name "Israel" means: he who has wrestled with God [and men] and has prevailed, or, gained a victory. Jesus Himself is the fulfillment of "Israel," in the ultimate sense. Israel itself was a "type" of Christ --- (cf. all the places in Matthew's Gospel account where he uses the term "fulfilled" when speaking of historic events in the life of Israel, and applying them to Jesus Christ). All who are "in Christ" (both believing Jews and Gentiles) are SPIRITUAL Israel; they are the "Israel of God" (Gal. 6:16). Those who think that the modern, nation-state that calls itself "Israel" is a fulfillment of Bible prophecy, are looking the wrong place for the fulfillment of it. Dispensational Futurism as an Eschatological system, is a FALSE prophetic system. Too many Christians are being deceived by it. Questions? Let's discuss. *Soli Deo Gloria*
@Logos_Unveiled
@Logos_Unveiled 5 жыл бұрын
Are the modern modern Jews Gods chosen people? & Since, those who are in Christ are the actual Isreal, is it wrong to not stand with Isreal
@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486
@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486 2 жыл бұрын
@@Logos_Unveiled They are not God’s people. We are made sons and daughters of God through adoption by the works of Jesus Christ. Every person that denies that Christ has come in the flesh is an antichrist.
@IMSTILLHERE4REAL
@IMSTILLHERE4REAL 4 жыл бұрын
True israel is from Genesis to Revelation.why he spent 18 mins in romans i dont know.
@rots2010
@rots2010 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew 2:13-15 Now when they had departed, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Rise, take the child and his mother, and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you, for Herod is about to search for the child, to destroy him.” And he rose and took the child and his mother by night and departed to Egypt and remained there until the death of Herod. This was to FULFILL what the Lord had spoken by the prophet, “Out of Egypt I called my son.” If you read Hosea 11:1 which the author of the gospel of Matthew quote, then you can very easy understand that here God is talking about the people of Israel, however the gospel of Matthew declares that "Jesus" is the the fulfillment of this words of the old testament, that is Jesus is the true Israel. John Piper was just trying to explain with too many words what the bible explains with few words in Romans 9. If you still can not see it maybe you should pray to God asking him about Matthew 2:15....there is no other way around.
@Call2WakeUp
@Call2WakeUp 3 жыл бұрын
I was of the impression that Jesus was from the tribe of Judah, which is 1 of the 12 tribes.
@queenisrael8158
@queenisrael8158 2 жыл бұрын
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@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486
@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486 2 жыл бұрын
@@Call2WakeUpThe believers are the seed of the Lord Jesus Christ. Read Isaiah 53. We are the new wine in new bottles, the new covenant. We are the people that had their hearts circumcised. A people that did not know Him, but now are His people and He, our God. Remember that Abraham was counted righteous for his faith, so do we. We are made righteous by faith through grace in the Lord Jesus Christ and not by works, bloodline, lineage. We are a holy people because the Holy Ghost lives IN us. We are the holy nation.
@thewestauto9341
@thewestauto9341 Жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha real isrealites are black that's why you're confused coz you're reading the book which is not yours.
@Liss1122
@Liss1122 8 ай бұрын
@@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486, well said.
@The_Book_of_Obadiah
@The_Book_of_Obadiah 4 жыл бұрын
Not all of Israel is not Israel means that when you have all that are the physical descendants of Jacob, some of them will be cut out. It’s an exclusionary statement, not inclusive.
@The_Book_of_Obadiah
@The_Book_of_Obadiah 3 жыл бұрын
@DOJA FOX I just reject western Christianity’s interpretation. Essentially you have gentiles interpreting scripture. For starters, how can gentiles be trusted when they depict Jesus as white?
@fourltrman
@fourltrman Жыл бұрын
@@The_Book_of_Obadiah You are a FOOL. I'll see your sorry tookis at the Great White Throne Judgement when you are about to be thrown into the lake of fire. Unless you get right that is.
@IsChosen33
@IsChosen33 Жыл бұрын
The Bible has been interpreted so many times, it’s best we trust the most High for decisions making
@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551
@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551 7 ай бұрын
God made a covenant with Israel which was CONDITIONAL on their obedience and acceptance of Jesus as the Messiah. They rejected Jesus so all those promises made to Israel as a NATION no longer applies. That is why Jesus declared that "your house is left unto you desolate." (Matthew 23:38) God accepts Jews as INDIVIDUALS but Israel is no longer His nation because they rejected His Son as a NATION (Matthew 27:25). “As the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and you shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goes to possess it. And the Lord shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other” (Deuteronomy 28:63, 64). The completeness and finality of this rejection is evident from Deuteronomy 8:19, 20: “As the nations which the Lord destroyed before your face, so shall you perish; because you would not be obedient unto the voice of the Lord your God.” The rejection of Jesus by the leaders of Israel (compare Isaiah 3:12; 9:16) meant the permanent, irrevocable cancellation of their special standing before God as a NATION (Jeremiah 12:14-16). This is not the politically correct view but it is the Biblical one.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
Israel did not reject Messiah, they were and still are his Disciples from Galilee. Those who rejected Messiah were "the jews", who are Esau. Ezekiel 35.10, Obadiah.
@WilliamKister
@WilliamKister 7 ай бұрын
Plot twist comes in Romans 11 when it states that Israel has hardened it's hearts temporarily. It is when they finally call upon the Lord and turn towards Him, He will be their God again and they will be His people. Romans 11:11-16 So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather, through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. Now if their trespass means riches for the world, and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean! Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? If the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches. (ESV) Romans 11:25-31 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written, “The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”; “and this will be my covenant with them when I take away their sins.” As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience, so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy. (ESV)
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
Messiahs disciples were Galileans, not "jews" who are of Esau. Obadiah, Malachi 1, Genesis 27.40, Amos 1.11, Ezekiel 35&36. John 12.20-24
@bonitajanssen745
@bonitajanssen745 3 жыл бұрын
THERE IS NO WAY ON EARTH TO TRACE HERITAGE FAR ENOUGH TO DETERMINE THE TRUE JEWS-ONLY GOD KNOWS WHO ARE THE TRUE “JEWS”. This man is right.
@tamarastanley2606
@tamarastanley2606 2 жыл бұрын
Deuteronomy 28 is a great way of starting. I do believe the gentiles are able to be grafted in, but there is a blood line that Christ is coming to save and redeem even those that are of the blood line do not make it just by being blood I do agree, but we are the true descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob the "blacks scattered through slave trade and there are those who are still in Africa" . you never have to listen to me, but read the word and allow the Holy spirit to lead you.
@bonitajanssen745
@bonitajanssen745 2 жыл бұрын
@@tamarastanley2606 I agree with you. It’s just that I always think about that verse in the book of Revelation about “those who say they are Jews but are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan.” I actually am Jewish, but I never say it because of that. May God be with you always and forevermore.❤️
@thetruthhurts131
@thetruthhurts131 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is. It's called the Bible.
@bonitajanssen745
@bonitajanssen745 Жыл бұрын
@@thetruthhurts131 And the Holy Bible goes back thousands of years. There are some who calls themselves Jews, and are not~ but are of the synagogue of Satan.
@JaeKhed
@JaeKhed 3 жыл бұрын
The Real Ysrael knows who they are.
@JaeKhed
@JaeKhed 2 жыл бұрын
@X X Shalom
@fourltrman
@fourltrman Жыл бұрын
@@JaeKhed Yea and it isn't you Hammite.
@lindachilds2227
@lindachilds2227 4 жыл бұрын
Abraham
@wakeupcallproduction1547
@wakeupcallproduction1547 Ай бұрын
It was Sarah's idea about Hagar. Not Abraham. Why you twisting Bible?
@xenophon598
@xenophon598 2 жыл бұрын
People love to quote Romans. But John 10 shows who the true Israelite's are.
@rosemarietolentino3218
@rosemarietolentino3218 6 ай бұрын
Romans 2:28-29.
@xenophon598
@xenophon598 6 ай бұрын
@@rosemarietolentino3218 yes. you cannot pretend to be an Israelite, like the edomite jews do. You have to be born one, either from the Judeans, or the nations. Gentiles means literally nothing. Paul would have laughed at you if you told him it meant 'non-jew" and "jew" meant Israelite. He literally called everyone in his epistles Israelites, because that's all he wrote to.
@kenfredrick7658
@kenfredrick7658 6 жыл бұрын
The world-wide Christian Church doesn't replace Israel. The Church IS Israel (spiritually speaking). Evangelical Christians got their thinking messed up by C.I. Scofield. I had to throw my Scofield KJV in the trash in 2013; too much bad teaching.
@CBALLEN
@CBALLEN Жыл бұрын
Just because you are born from the blood of Abraham doesn't mean you are God's children,HIS ISRAEL, and just because you aren't of the blood of Abraham doesn't mean you are Not of Israel. We who believe, no matter from what nation,we are from are counted as the offspring of promise,,through Isaac,God's true Israel.
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 8 ай бұрын
I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
Anyone who calls on the name of Jesus Christ can be saved. But Israelites are still his chosen people and only a remnant will be saved. As most have fallen away. And don´t care about the truth.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
@@AnHebrewChild right. The "jews" father is Satan. They are Esau. Read Obadiah, Ezekiel 35 / 36. Compare and contrast the Disciples of Messiah, who were Israelites, Galileans who spoke differently from all the others with "jews" whose father is the devil.
@CBALLEN
@CBALLEN 2 ай бұрын
@psalm2764 All who call upon the Lord,Wil be saved. The question is,why or how would a natural, God hating man,with no Godly good in him,turn and do something pleasing to the Lord,when it is impossible to do this unless the Spirit grants him new life first,that causes faith ? Romans 3:11-12 (ESV): 11 no one understands; no one seeks for God. 12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.”
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
@@CBALLEN We are made in His Image. We have a choice. If no one seeks for God, no one can find Him. If He picks and chooses, He is not sovereign. He is a respecter of persons. What you describe is satanic. Whole Counsel of God recommended for understanding.
@teresaveal7695
@teresaveal7695 6 ай бұрын
To understand what Apostle Paul is saying about all, Israel shall be saved. First, Who is Israel ? Who is Esau ? Who is Jacob ? Esau, the firstborn, is a picture of the flesh. Jacob the spirit. God hates Esau the flesh he loves Jacob the spirit. Jacob put on Esau's garments, the flesh, and obtained the birthright but was still Jacob. In the wilderness, he fought with the angel and layed his head on the stone, which is Christ. Had his name changed to Israel. A completed work of God. When we come to Christ, we are given a new name written in a white stone. Again, a completed work of God. So, in the end, all of Israel, those who are complete in Christ, will be saved. But there is a time of Jacobs trouble as well. Jacob still has his birthright he hasn't taken the mark of the beast in the wilderness tribulation he has his name changed to Israel and is saved out of tribulation. Esau, those who sell their birthright, take the mark of the beast. He found no repentance those he sought it carefully with tears. Today is the day of Salvation. Crucify the flesh. Follow Jesus he is the only way to heaven. Israel those complete in Christ. Romans 9 Jacob those who have their birthright but not complete in Christ Esau those who sell their birthright to satisfy the flesh.
@psalm2764
@psalm2764 2 ай бұрын
Esau has stolen the birthright is sitting in Canaan calling himself "a jew" of Judah and an Israeli.
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