Jesus Final Week: Day Two--Temple Shutdown and Plot to Kill

[@sylviadsouza5726]

Always grateful to u Dr. Tabor for bringing alive the true life of Jesus

[@jonnymovieboy]

Incredible so glad to be going through holy week with these installments, thank you

[@EvilXtianity]

Should propitiatory human sacrifice be condemned or worshiped?

[@Veegan4theanimals]

I am loving the series. 💚

[@sheri1983]

The moment you were talking about how priests added that phrases about the importance of sacrifices blew my mind. Thanks Dr Tabor your videos are just a delight in the world we live in.

[@angelmeyers1455]

I think we still have a lot of money changing going on in all our temples....

[@jamesjaudon8247]

I know there's money changing. Trying to keep all business in the house. It's part of their mission. Evidently they are trying to install a Profit,Priest and King as well. I'm really confused about the church, again.

[@jussikankinen9409]

Same forces build that got jesus killed

[@xenithsanguine]

The bigger issue is the animal sacrifices. Don't you think?

[@webknob6998]

I just started listening to your videos. I love the way you teach. Thank you.

[@czarina7786]

Thank you for doing these videos. I’d love to have a PhD in comparative religion but I’m done with tests and writing papers 😂. I can enjoy lectures here pleasantly at age 65. Much appreciated. All joy and peace to you.

[@alexmorgan2296]

Thank you for yet another enlightening analysis. Thoroughly enjoying each one - and learning such a lot.

[@JakeLeidahl]

Learn from someone who believes in Christ and speaks God's truth. This professor is full of lies

[@BookHen-xn2bh]

Wow, that is a great look at the Temple. I like it.

[@animula6908]

This is an interesting series. Thank you.

[@pamcatello9136]

Great job tabor. Thank you

[@Cb489]

Blessed to have this quality of information

[@ashleyn9381]

Dr. Tabor, I am loving this mini-series. It brings so much for life and vibrancy to the Easter holiday. Thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge with us.

[@travissk5036]

Great Content. Thanks James!

[@orbilnelsonalvarez8855]

Iam happy to listen and share, gods wisdon

[@BenM61]

Great job. Thank you.

[@allsaintsmonastery]

Realising that I can't be heard because I did not send money, but at least recognise that the human sacrifice concept of redemption is not held by the Orthodox Church but Orthodoxy is dramatically opposed to the Atonement doctrine and the human sacrifice doctrine.

[@hfranklin2009]

You are heard.

[@xenithsanguine]

It wasn't humans that were sacrificed. It was nonhuman animals. Are you still practicing that to this day?

[@bibitu26]

Thank you Dr. Tabor for doing this videos .

[@davida.taylor8444]

Thank you for doing these. The whole idea of competing traditions in the OT was a little mind-blowing but I see it attested in some of my study bibles also. That can really have a significant impact on biblical studies for those of us for whom this is new-ish information. I've known about the JEDP theory of the Torah but now seeing it seep into the prophets, history with a crescendo in the gospels is illuminating.

[@lisalisa20907]

Thank you so much! This is brilliant

[@SpiritMatter-qo3jj]

Bingo! You hit the nail on the head! One of the ways John the Baptizer got things back on track was to let the people know that they did not need the Temple priest power structure to get right with God. They could right their relationship through repentance, as symbolized by the "baptism of repentance FOR the remission of sins"!!!

[@therealjasonbueno]

Mind blown! 🤯

[@wmoates6029]

When reading about burnt offerings I discovered that a portion of the meat was shared with the temple priests and the rest taken home by the person bringing the sacrifice. This gave me a mental picture of a kind of Judaic barbecue (tailgate party?). I am probably wrong but it sure would justify Jesus' anger. Just a thought.

[@slottibarfast5402]

So many scribal additions and i would guess subtractions in the old and new testament makes me wonder that if we cant trust the scribes what trust can we have in anonymous authors either.

[@georgegallery4470]

Thank you.

[@RocketKirchner]

That’s because as Mark says in 10:45 Jesus viewed himself as the ransom not the animals .

[@ElsjeMassyn]

I truly hope "Christspiracy" will also visit South African theatres. I am binge watching Dr. James Tabor's series and the revelation w.r.t. a non-sacrificial system i.e. then that Jesus was murdered by the opposition, God did not sacrifice His son - that was not why Jesus/Yeshua came --- is mind--blowing. Thank you

[@colefiler1429]

My favorite story in the Bible, glad you covered it

[@fayestiles4590]

Thank you

[@MyWatchIsEnded]

I'm just starting to get to the part where you're talking about the fig tree but I wanted to mention that according to some sources I've read online, which I unfortunately can't remember, the fig tree produces nodules instead of fruit when they are out of season. Apparently the specific tree didn't even produce nodules during the proper period which symbolically is used to show that there are some people who lack even the nodule of righteousness even if it's not full on fruit.

[@JakeLeidahl]

I believe the fig tree represents Israel and that it was not producing fruit and would also apply to us when we don't produce fruit. Jesus cursed it and it died

[@onika700]

Zechariah 14: 21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts. Joel 3: 17 So shall ye know that I am the Lord your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.

[@donalddotson-cw5ll]

Thank you Dr tabor. For the extremely dedication, and disciplined concern for at least trying to help the current uneducated commonly superstitious people to finally get a chance to understand what the cultural situation was in ancient times. And how our beliefs were shaped by the different interactions within each others cultures in the development of all of our religious beliefs systems. The combination of various scholarly disciplines about how we humans were shaped by our many different types of superstitions, and our understanding of our world around us in the past shaped our cultures into what we are today. Has really been able to help us understand who we are. And why we think the ways that we do. Thank you once again Dr tabor.

[@MyChihuahua]

Messiah divorced Judah and declared their house desolate. ('Cursed the fig tree '). Matt 23:37-38

[@kevinmitchell1697]

Like the last couple minutes where you talk of an empty room with no presence. The tabernacle in Gibeon had no ark because the ark was in a house down the road for 70 years. David brought the presence to Jerusalem where the prophetic flowed and left the sacrifices in Gibeon.

[@onika700]

He wanted repentance and sacrifice: Ezekiel 44: 9 ¶ Thus saith the Lord God; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that is among the children of Israel.

[@RowdyGirlSanctuary]

Great study!!!

[@xenithsanguine]

Thank you for all you do for the animals, and the world!

[@RexJebamoney]

Thanks for all these unbiased information. The more are more I listen to this type of information, the more I begin to realize that it’s more important to live a righteous life than to believe in whatever one chooses to believe in. Jesus had a very simple message: Love and obey the Creator and Love your neighbour. As I age, I am beginning to feel that it’s my only responsibility to follow these two principles. I am also beginning to think that all the Gospels are written based on Old Testament texts, cherry picked statements to construct a story, with a motive to make Jesus a Messiah. In other words the writers knew what they wanted to achieve, and went back to the Torah for material to support their construction. I doubt Jesus ever wanted to be treated as God the Creator. Sad the what he did and taught were never written down as it happened. We are now left with constructions 40 years or more after Jesus was killed. Dr. Bart Ehrman another source of NT writing history.

[@michaelsmith9453]

I would like to suggest that instead of positioning one view opposing the other view, we should consider the possibility that both views are true at the same time, which is often true in hebraic thinking.

[@ezekielsaltar4728]

Ezekiel's Temple shows the return of sacrifices but there is a catch, the sacrifices brought are forgiven and not killed. This can be seen in the missing appliances that wash the sacrificial blood of the sacrifices away for the priests. Sacrificial systems meeting Jesus, turn towards forgiveness.

[@onika700]

Here he is emphasizing the unworthiness to offer sacrifices: Isaiah 66: 3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog’s neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine’s blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

[@britanikothegreat8513]

Divine question Do you know the law or will of God?!. Isaiah 1:10-18. One moment in time. Psalms 144:9. Sometimes Love just Ain't Enough. Too much love will kill you. Hebrew 4:12.

[@sideburnsoldiers3349]

please explain how yall marked the new year early without ripened barley to be ready fo rthe harvest? i was gonna ask a specific question on the title but since the start of video says yall a month off i figured id ask.thnks.

[@onika700]

Amos 5: 12 For I know your manifold transgressions and your mighty sins: they afflict the just, they take a bribe, and they turn aside the poor in the gate from their right. 13 Therefore the prudent shall keep silence in that time; for it is an evil time. 25 Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel? 26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

[@onika700]

Isaiah is talking about the millennium: Isaiah 65: 17 ¶ For, behold, I create new heavens and a new dearth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

[@JakeLeidahl]

Truth. Amen

[@andumenged]

Thanks for this excellent and thought provoking video. Having said that I’m a little bit concerned that by presenting the early ancient Israel religion as non sacrificial, that we may be reading our modern bias into the text. I’m sure there are many “proof texts” that show the earliest religion of Israel indeed is based entirely on a sacrificial system just like the surrounding religious of that time. Anyway, I enjoyed this video very much though.

[@tsemayekekema2918]

34:07 I think bowls & pots clearly & literally have no other possible purpose asides animals killing

[@longcastle4863]

Were the Qumran Essenes anti animal sacrifice too?

[@tsemayekekema2918]

Even the idea that prayer brings a more intimate relationship is a very modern western idea. I doubt any of the prophetic texts were ever literally against animal sacrifice - that was a Christian innovation

[@Carelock]

I think most Christians and people in general have a totally different image of the Temple takeover. The size of it and the number of people needed to control that space just isn’t conveyed well.

[@maryannec55]

So, do you think the end time messiah (as Solomon did portraying the continuance of the Davidic dynasty) will also come riding in on a donkey? It won't be down the mount of olives this time tho because it will have been split in two!

[@BenM61]

He will be driving a Hummer.

[@JayWest14]

Better yet, he’ll come riding in a Mustang II😂

[@stevio4228]

Where is day 3 video?

[@hollydevine8866]

Mr. Tabor, I don't know if you read & answer comments, but I do not believe sacrifice was commanded. I had a friend ask me, "What about the passover lamb in Exodus?" I really didn't know how to answer. Is there any scripture you suggest reading for this topic ? It does make it sound like a sacrifice.... but is this something that was falsely added ???

[@britanikothegreat8513]

Psalms 97:1-6. Isaiah 29:6. Psalms 50:1-6. Isaiah 28:17-18. Psalms 2:1-5 No comment!!! Psalms 2:6-9 AASA SA AWA MO AMA. PSALMS 145:7. HEBREO 4:12.

[@francesbaker1294]

I might be a bit slow, but what temple is this? Is it cgi? I thought the temple was destroyed in 70AD, so how can this be the same temple Jesus was at?

[@neclark08]

...Ohhh...ya might want to do an over-dub @ 5:25, where you say "...when Jesus goes down on the donkey..." The term has a Very SPECIFIC meaning for 'the Kids today'...😊

[@michaelsmith9453]

I think we're all adults here so feel free to get your mind out of the gutter.🙄

[@onika700]

Not about sacrifices: Jeremiah 8: 4 ¶ Moreover thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord; Shall they fall, and not arise? shall he turn away, and not return? 5 Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they hold fast deceit, they refuse to return. 6 I hearkened and heard, but they spake not aright: no man repented him of his wickedness, saying, What have I done? every one turned to his course, as the horse rusheth into the battle. 7 Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the Lord. 8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain. 9 The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the Lord; and what wisdom is in them?

[@JayWest14]

If Jesus is teaching that sacrifice is not needed, why then do Christians try to sell Christianity on the notion that he was the ultimate sacrifice???

[@johnmann8659]

@jaywest14 Which verses are you making reference to specifically?

[@JayWest14]

@@johnmann8659 1 Corinthians 15:3 for one.

[@tsemayekekema2918]

I think Dr Tabor misunderstands the "non-Priestly" old testament traditions. I'm not sure whether or not current old testament scholarship agrees with his dissection of PROPHETIC texts into priestly and non-Priestly strata-specifically the ones Tabor imagines to be against all animal sacrifice in & of itself

[@maxmohr7860]

Pauls letters started talking about him being a sacrifice. And Paul is the spouter of lies

[@tsemayekekema2918]

@@maxmohr7860 Occam's Razor demands that Paul would be in better position to understand the theology of the historical Jesus - as Paul did in fact interact with eyewitnesses like Peter & James while he was in Jerusalem. I follow Richard Bauckham in insisting that Paul's statements about "receiving teachings from the Lord" were not references to mystical revelation - but to a having received the words of the historical Jesus that were passed on to authority figures in the christian movement, And then passed on to Paul in a chain of named authorised personalities in such oral societies. Bauckham cited studies on oral cultures based on which he rightly deduces that only authorised authority figures in an oral communities would have the authority to narrate certain stories. "I received from the Lord" would therefore mean that he received it from an officiallly authorized chain of oral tradition that started from those who were close to Jesus. This social apparatus/engine of authorised narrators of oral tradition only exist in oral societies, especially in the East

[@mahlonmarr856]

Jesus and his armed followers cleansed the Temple and held it for a day. But Mark's recounting of their leaving at the end of the day is very anticlimactic. What happened, or more to the point, what didn't happen? Jesus had appealed to the crowd that they could move mountains if their faith was strong enough. They'd cleansed the Temple, but God didn't assume the throne of the "Kingdom of God", leaving them feeling that they'd been hung out to dry. Almost immediately, many of them, including even Judas and Peter, turned on Jesus since only God could have protected them from the Romans at that point--leaving Jesus to wonder "Why?" from the cross. Why indeed? "No one can redeem the life of another, or give to God a ransom for them." ---Psalms 49:7s John the Baptizer and Jesus had both taught that the path to salvation with through repentance, not sacrifice.

[@carlcisc1706]

What is the thumbnail of a dead red header on the floor with two priest figures. They were not killed out there do research where ‘killing and blood draining was done..not the same where it was burned.

[@onika700]

Sacrifices can't forgive adultery and murder, only unintentional sins. Adulterers and murderers were executed. David wasn't executed because he was the king.

[@dannylo5875]

Yeah and that is a massive concern. Plebs get shafted. Kings and Queens do not buy in this case Bathsheba still got Shafted because she was a woman who was forced by David to serve him after ritualistically purifying herself. Her baby was killed off by God to punish Him. When it wasn't even her or the fault of Bathsheba and all because God wanted to teach David how wrong it was to fuck a Godly man's wife without consent and also To arrange the murder of a man more just then Himself David. But even this is too much. In the end. Bathsheba grandpa or uncle decided to use a son of David as a plot to overthrow David. Absalom. He almost succeeded in the overthrow except David sent spies to confuse the counsel of Absalom and overturn it. Which they successfully did. The Grandpa of the poor woman who was abused and shamed went in and killed himself after his sound advice was rejected by his son in law Absalom. Ahitophel was grandpa of the women who suffered willful rape and abuse by David. So a lot more people were harmed by this situation. I honestly do not like this story because God can be concerned and even evil.

[@onika700]

@@dannylo5875 I don't believe God condoned it.

[@brentkrohn3786]

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[@findLuxuryHub]

What about Moidim (Gods festival )? What about Yom Kippur ? Do you mean these festival only believed in priesthood Believers ? not Jewish idea?

[@JakeLeidahl]

All the Jewish festivals pointed to Jesus. All the Old testament points to Christ and His giving His life as a sacrifice and His Kingdom

[@oklahomafreedom5536]

They built that place with only hands, intelligent minds and donkey's. Today would be very different.

[@muliefriend4785]

So why are the Israeli people going to burn the four red heifers?

[@britanikothegreat8513]

Lack of understanding or knowledge or brainwash. Hebrew 4:12.

[@mariodesilva8193]

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[@TR-ru7tb]

The tithes were supposed to go to the orphans the widows and the strangers deut “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation” (Matthew 23:13-14, Deuteronomy 14:28) When you have finished tithing all the tithes of your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give them to the Levite, the stranger, the orphan, and the widow, so that they can eat to satiety in your cities. (Deuteronomy 26:12) instead they were giving false balances and wouldn't even let strangers in the temple ( as seen in acts)

[@tsemayekekema2918]

This direct connection between the Ebionites and James himself isn't necessarily backed up by much hard evidence. The available evidence can be legitimately re-interpreted to imply that the Ebionites weren't even mainstream among Jewish-Christians, but an independent schismatic faction distinct from the rest of Jewish christianity. However, Tabor's hypotheses about the Ebionites is neccesarily seductive to those who don't want a high christology & other "proto-Orthodox" ideas to be associated with Jesus & his brothers. The confidence with which Tabor & other scholars hastily associate the Ebionites with the essence of the original Jews in the circle close to Jesus' family can give you the illusion that the evidence is cut & dried (of course, this misunderstanding is cozily supported by a wrong reconstruction of Pauline & Synoptics christologies that very safely distance them from anything that could even vaguely resemble the high christologies implied by trinitarian creeds-despite explicit & repeated associations of Yahweh's NAME with Jesus all over Paul & Matthew's gospel that were the earliest Jewish Christian writings we actually possess, unlike the later Ebionites whose connection to Jesus family isn't any stronger than being ethnically Jewish!). Notice how anything in John's gospel that doesn't fit with Ebionite low christology gets conveniently struck out of the list of things that go back to eyewitness testimony!

[@PC-vg8vn]

The very 1st chapter of Mark clearly associates Jesus with Yahweh too! Could it be any clearer?!

[@goodtoGoNow1956]

Interesting revisionism. It seems that the Cleansing of the Temple was not a momentary rage -- it seems to have been underway for at least 4 and perhaps as many as 12 hours. But Its not quite a revolution or a "take over" either. Jesus did not remain here. He did not leave an armed contingent to rule it. He was able to come and go over the next few days without being seen as a revolutionary. So, I think Tabor is going to an extreme version that is not supported.

[@pamcatello9136]

Tabor jesus was the sacrifice, so no more sacrifice with animals were needed after christ death. This is a transition

[@britanikothegreat8513]

Zephaniah 1:14??? Don't cry out loud. Job 12:4??? When you tell me that you love me.

[@judithknights-rayson9284]

IN Gen 1:26, God says, "Let us make man in Our Own Image and in Our Own Likeness. What are God's Image and Likeness? God is ETERNAL, HOLY and SPIRIT, and He blew His own Eternal Holy Spirit Life into the nostrils of the body He had formed. This gave the man a SPIRITUAL CONNECTION to God, so that he could EXPERIENCE God's Presence Gen 3:8 and UNDERSTAND His Thoughts. Gen 2:16. When Adam DISOBEYED God's COMMAND NOT to eat the forbidden fruit, he DIED SPIRITUALLY, lost his ETERNAL LIFE and he and all his descendants became SINNERS,Cto be SPIRITUALLY SEPARATED FROM God, FOREVER. Except, God told the serpent that one day the SON OF A WOMAN would crush his head and the serpent would bruise His heal. All mankind has INHERITED Adam's HUMAN life, which DOES NOT contain God's ORIGINAL DNA, so we are ALL DESTINED to attend the Final Judgement and be CONSIGNED to the Lake of Fire FOREVER. BUT God has made a way of escape for us, IF we want it. He sent Jesus, who carried God's,DNA in His blood because He was CONCEIVED BY the ETERNAL HOLY SPIRIT. In Lev 17:11 God says," For the LIFE of a CREATURE is IN the BLOOD and I HAVE GIIVEN it TO YOU to make AT-ONE-MENT FOR YOURSELVES on the altar. It is the BLOOD that makes ATONEMENT for one's LIFE". When Jesus was crucified, (having first been brutallly whipped as punishment for OUR SINS -- after which he was unrecognisable) He took ALL our sins IN His body ON the cross 1 Pet 2:24 and said, Father, forgive them, they DONT KNOW what they are doing", Luk 23:34. And God had made iit POSSIBLE for EVERYONE TO BE FORGIVEN. On the Last Day, when we stand in front of the Judge of ALL the earth, we will NOT be judged for our sins, but we WILL be judged for our UNBELIEF. Joh 3:16. "For God so LOVED the world that He GAVE His 9ne and Only Son, that whoever BELIEVES IN HIM, WILL NOT PERISH ( be consigned to the Lake of Fire but have ETERNAL LIFE".

[@britanikothegreat8513]

Genesis 1:0. How can you read the Holy Bible if you don't know the beggining. Genesis 1:1-27. Psalms 53:2-3. Genesis 6:5. From a distance. Psalms 144:9. Malachi 1:11. Hebreo 4:12.

[@britanikothegreat8513]

Proverb 30:4?!.6. John 3:13-16.?!. Do you you know jesus or emmanuel?!..Hebreo 4:12. 2Chronicles 7:14

[@slottibarfast5402]

I am confused here. The temple, the sacrifices, are an important part, not just a tradition of the faith. It is in the law with all kinds of restrictions on the quality of the sacrifice. The story of Cain and Able is centered on the sacrifice of your best as a symbol of your devotion. Jesus never had a problem with these sacrifices before and yet here he having a problem with animal sacrifices when in a few days he would have his diciples drink wine and bread as though it was to remember his blood sacrifice. By his actions, it seems to me Jesus is striking a blow at the temple and the priests directly. History has shown to what extent christians had disdain for Jews all the way back to the bible. The Boston tea party was not about the cost of tea. Just my opinion but it seems that Jesus was forcing this crisis thinking God would raise Jesus up to overthrow Rome . After all his mother made up this story about God being his father. When Jesus said God had forsaken him he ment it.

[@jussikankinen9409]

Jesus was fish eating vegan also said sacrifice is useless

[@JakeLeidahl]

Jesus wasn't "having a problem with animal sacrifices" as Jesus/God instituted animal sacrifices. Jesus is saying that an animal sacrifice cannot save us......but that it all points to Him. John referred to Jesus as the Lamb of God and Jesus was the spotless lamb who offered Himself (read Isaiah 53). No Mary did not make up the virgin birth. You have zero evidence or basis for saying that other then you're own lack of faith

[@JakeLeidahl]

​@@jussikankinen9409no Jesus wasn't vegan and no Jesus didn't say it was useless. Please show verses of evidence for your erroneous statements

[@3nduser]

I was #665 to like this video. Who will be 666?

[@Tracysbrokenwing]

I dont think Jesus put himself up on that cross🤷🏼‍♀️ What i always thought sacrafice back then meant that, im giving this favorite or best thing that i love deeply to the Lord as sacrifice so that he knows my heart is with Him. Whether that thing be your best cow??? Now see that dont make sense either!! Sacrificing something when were told in the beginning in genesis to "go forth and multiply" or go and replenish the earth. That's the main argument for anti abortionist. 🤷🏼‍♀️ What god askes for blood? Seems like a pretty crappy god to me. God (captial G) is life. God is love. God's love is like a good parents love. My God dont ask for blood... well atleast till you have done the greatest of blastphemes. " It would be better to hang a millstone around your neck." There is a righteous anger. I think Amos 8 says something about it. Anyway, fantastic!! conversation!!! Big squishes 🤗🤗🤗

[@patricktilton5377]

The very fact that Jesus is depicted quoting passages alluding to a 40-years-in-the-future destruction of the 1st Temple 40 years before the destruction of the Herodian Temple proves -- to my satisfaction -- that these gospel stories are NOT historical, that they were concocted after the destruction of the Herodian Temple c. 70 CE. The whole point was to portray Jesus as a genuine prophet, whose fictional career involved foreseeing the pivotal events surrounding the Son of Man -- a.k.a. Titus Flavius -- destroying Jerusalem and the Temple before that 'generation' (i.e. of 40 years) were to pass away. It's a concocted, contrived propaganda piece written after-the-fact of the deeds performed by Titus. It fits right in with Joseph Atwill's thesis in his 'CAESAR'S MESSIAH'. The typological link this time is between Jeremiah and Jesus -- both of whom prophesy the same doom for Jerusalem in 40 years' time, with Jesus echoing Jeremiah's very words. I know that Dr. Tabor believes Jesus actually existed -- hence his reference to "the historical Jesus" -- but this 40 years prior ranting at the site of the Herodian Temple PURPOSELY echoing Jeremiah (and Amos, etc.) just screams that it's a literary invention, rather than a genuine historical incident.

[@nubtube7313]

With all respect Dr. Tabor, referring to something as a sort of pantomime and then again as deranged behavior is a contradiction. Pantomime is a poor choice of words here, but even still it has nothing to do with deranged behavior. And you have either missed a lot of the details in these texts, or you are being disingenuous? In your 2-part video on how apologists violate the integrity of the Gospels you state the importance of critically reading the Gospels, but then completely skip over the rewriting of text here as if it doesn't matter just like an apologist would do. Not only does this revision in Matthew no longer match the narrative of the story and cause a full day to go missing, but it introduces a fabrication that conflicts with the Gospel of Mark. So which is it, did the disciples see the fig tree wither right away, or did they notice it on passing the following day? If we compare this to your previous dilemma concerning the number of animals, we see a stark contrast between these two revisions in Matthew. In the case of the number of animals, there is no actual contradiction between the Gospels. Mark mentions just the donkey Jesus rode, while Matthew mentions its mother as well. We can't tell if there was a second animal in Mark because it doesn't mention it one way or the other, so the revision poses no real conflict. But in the fig tree example it does. In my opinion you created a mountain of discussion about the number of animals where discussion is barely warranted, and completely skip over a variation in the text that should be discussed in detail because it reveals a critical fault in the Gospel of Matthew. I don't read the Gospel of Matthew to understand the story of Jesus, I read it to understand the imaginative writing style of an early Christian follower/s. The meaning of the withered tree could be a reference to the corruption of the temple, or it could be a reference to Jesus himself as his physical presence and the fruits of his teaching would soon end for the Disciples. We see in Mark 13:28 a fig tree being used as a sign of something about to happen, "when you see its leaves come out, you know summer is near". Regardless of its symbolic meaning, the intended purpose of the fig tree event which doesn't conclude until the following day is about having and keeping faith. Mark 14:27 claims Jesus foretold that his disciples would all fall away, "strike the Shepard, and the sheep scatter". Just like all of these texts, you have to put them in the proper context in order to understand them correctly. No where in Mark 11:12-14 does it claim the disciples thought Jesus lost it. The text describes the event from the disciples perspective as they watched him walk up to a tree and recite something. The meaning of the event is not about cursing a tree, or Jesus thinking he would find fruit before its time. The meaning is obviously connected to his message of having and keeping faith after his physical presence is gone. And Jesus reminds the disciples of this again at the last supper. These revisions in Matthew appear to serve a single purpose only, that being to embellish and strengthen the Jesus story to make it more convincing/appealing. Unfortunately the shadow of doubt it raises only makes it less convincing/appealing. The revision to the number of animals emphasizes the returning Messiah's connection to God through his Mother. Placing the cleansing of the Temple text a day earlier emphasizes the importance of the event, while rewriting the withered fig tree to claim the disciples witnessed it happening emphasizes the miracle. None of these embellishments do anything to strengthen the Jesus story, but they do cause people to stop and wonder if there is in fact any truth to it. So what does Dr. Tabor mean when he advises us to cherish these texts. Does he mean we should cherish plagiarism? Why would Dr. Tabor want people to cherish religious texts they know were altered? Is it because in doing so, we would be supporting Dr. Tabor's narrative that none of it is true?

[@niceworld468]

🙏PLEASE in GERMAN🙏

[@Machine9000]

I just don't understand the big deal jesus made about foreign currency and animals. I've heard Dr Ammon Hillmans take on this and prostitutes aka doves makes more sense to me

[@JakeLeidahl]

It's a house of God........its pollution to bring in man made currency and man's greed when in the presence of the Lord. Think of God telling Moses to remove his sandals when standing before Him. Show respect to the Creator and walk with humility. The Old Testament says Jesus would be zealous for His father's house Psalm 69:6

[@Marabarra94]

no James. you can't take the gospels literally. fiction and myths. no way of knowing if there is anything historical in there.

[@christophermanley3602]

There are ways of knowing if there is anything historical in the gospels. Tabor spends a lot of time on this in other videos.

[@Marabarra94]

@@christophermanley3602 no there is not. they can guess. all those sayings could have come from other preachers or from the writer himself. maybe the Q source contains original sayings.

[@christophermanley3602]

@@Marabarra94 Sure. Peace out. Take it easy. ✌🏻

[@Joshua123N]

Jesus should FIRST teach himself that his sacrificial death or ransom sacrifice is ALSO not required....😂😂😂😂😂

[@JayWest14]

I don’t feel like this is what the Gospels are trying to tell us. That is what Paul is trying to convey, not Jesus. Jesus clearly says sacrifice is not required. It seems to me his death came about because he disrupted illegal (against Jewish law) activities and those activities, like other criminal activities do, were used to pay off government officials and that’s how they persuaded the Romans to crucify him. They set up the trap for him to say he was the Christ, so to put him against the Roman Empire, claiming to be a king.

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@joshua123N Was required. God no longer accepts Israel’s sacrifices. Malachi 2:8-14 Amos 5:21-22 Jeremiah 6:20 Isaiah 1:11-17 Blood is needed to atone for sin. Leviticus 17:11 Hebrews 9:11 1 Samuel 3:12-14 2 Chronicles 29:23-24 Jesus provided the atonement needed to begin the New Covenant. Ezekiel 16:59-63-> Luke 22:20

[@jussikankinen9409]

What, every jew knew mocking god leads stoning or

[@britanikothegreat8513]

But the greatest of this is Love or Divine Righteousness. 1Corinthians 13:13. Without Love. Psalms 144:9.

[@NicholasZak]

@@johnmann8659bingo! Exactly and thank you for posting this before I did🙌🏼

[@alexxela8956]

I found this sooooooo boring because you go on a massive reading speal

[@therealjasonbueno]

Might not be the channel for you?

[@alexxela8956]

Wrong I loved the previous video on this and his talk with Mythvision Derek the other day was great

[@tsemayekekema2918]

@@alexxela8956 clearly academic scholarship isn't for you. Scholarship is done on the pages of formal academic write-ups - not mythvision's anti-religion crusade

[@alexxela8956]

@@tsemayekekema2918 I love academic scholarship but prefer not to be read to like a child. That's all

[@alexxela8956]

@@tsemayekekema2918 I'm watching the next one now and am prefering that format.