Jesus in the Torah with Chad Bird

Chad Bird is an author, speaker and a scholar-in-residence at 1517.org with a unique way of looking at Scripture that is equally intellectual and inspirational. He's also a specialist in Old Testament and Hebrew studies. Join us for a fascinating and wide-ranging conversation about finding Jesus in the Torah.
‪@chadbird1517‬
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
02:00 What does it mean that Jesus is "in" the Torah?
04:35 How did Jesus get placed in the text?
09:55 What do the Gospels say about Jesus in the Torah
13:38 Cultural context and standup comedy
18:56 Are there Christophanies in the Torah?
28:52 Evidence of complex monotheism in the Torah
36:13 The uniqueness of the Christian Bible
38:07 Genesis 3:15, the first Gospel
43:40 Is there evidence of “in three days” in the Torah?
48:36 The flaws of our biblical heroes
50:49 Sanctification
55:00 Jesus in God’s Promises to Abraham
58:04 Jesus in the Atonement Sacrifices
01:02:00 Wrap it up, gentlemen.

[@brigitteludwig4572]

Hey Mister Solberg. Now i listen. Thank you and be blessed ❤

[@ivangodin1850]

What a wonderful conversation. I've heard thousands in my life, but this one tops them all.

[@cindydaugherty1042]

I have read many of Mr Bird's books & have listened to him for over a year. He has an excellent video series "reading the Bible with Hebrew eyes" and daily videos as well. I have semi-opened Hebrew eyes, as I am still learning. The Crist Key is a page turner! You cannot put it down. Please read it, at least twice.

[@TheNickpatterson]

Thank you for all your teachings. They have been super beneficial, as i began slipping into the Hebrew roots trap a couple yrs back, mr tovia singer almost destroyed my faith in the new testament, paul and almost King Jesus. Praise God for opening my eyes through some very difficult painful tribulations over the past couple years. 🙏🏼

[@joeyz5577]

What an absolute treat this was! Thank both of you I learned so much!

[@mikeprew]

Thank you for this collab! You guys are two of my favorite Christian figures, so I was very excited for this collab. I loved your mention of Michael Heiser's work! I think it'd be really cool if you did a deeper dive on the implications of the unseen realm theology

[@kimartist]

Awesome! I love learning about the Christophanies. I never really heard about that when I was younger, but it seems to be a popular theological topic of late 🙌

[@colonelbeanbagsfishing1488]

Keep up the great work guys. Lord be with yous.

[@l1Experiment]

NUMERO 1... 👍😁😎💯 ONCE AGAIN, LOVE THESE INTERVIEWS BROTHER... SHALOM BROTHER SOLBERG!!!

[@johnnylopez9268]

What a good discussion, I'm definitely going to join his stream, thanks brother and you should definitely invite him again and maybe talk about the black Israelites and the extra books they say are missing which is not

[@colonelbeanbagsfishing1488]

Great work guys.

[@alanalynn2023]

Admire both of you men

[@l1Experiment]

I agree...

[@jackwebster9246]

Duel authorship, that's an interesting terminology. Spiritual and literal of the author. We must understand the first context, which I'm discovering more and more. Then the spiritual layer!

[@algreen562]

You mentioned a verse in the Hebrew Bible that God will tell men beforehand acts. What is the reference?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

The verse I was thinking of was Amos 3:7. “For the Lord God does nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets.” Best, Rob

[@insan4543]

Can you add Turkish subtitles pls

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hello, Insan! You can view Turkish subtitles by choosing Settings > Sub-titles > Auto-Translate. Then select the Turkish language. Tanrı seni korusun. Rob

[@insan4543]

@@TheBiblicalRoots God bless you too sir but i cant find turkish subtitle 🙏

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hello, Insan! Here are the 5 steps to follow to view Turkish subtitles: rlsolberg.com/auto-generate-subtitles-on-youtube/ Blessings, Rob

[@tbishop4961]

Paul raised at the feet of gamliel😂 Never stops being funny

[@elliot7205]

Solberg, what is your view about the gospel meaning to come to an end in the first century? what can refute this full preterist view

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi, Elliot. In my opinion the best argument against full preterism is the last three chapters of Revelation. Shalom! RL

[@elliot7205]

@@TheBiblicalRoots sorry to push solberg but I've taken a look but don't seem to understand what you mean, how do these chapters refute preterism?

[@johnmann8659]

@@elliot7205 Jesus called Daniel's 70th week a future event. A temple must be standing when Jesus arrives and defeats the A.C. Revelation 11:1-2--> Matthew 24:15-16--> Daniel 9:27--> 2 Thessalonians 2:4-8 Regarding the last three chapters of Revelation, R.L. is saying the defeat of Satan and the resurrection of the dead have yet to take place (Revelation 20:1-6).

[@herbladyHCG]

​@elliot7205 If I may offer my observation, Revelation 20 talks of Satan being chained a thousand years. If we believe history, Satan has not been chained yet.

[@gideonopyotuadebo2304]

HE THAT HATH MY WORD, LET HIM SPEAK MY WORD FAITHFULLY. THE LAWFUL GOSPEL OF GOD YEHOVAH THE COVENANT LAWGIVER IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ANTILAW GOSPEL OF THE REBELLIOUS A preacher, teacher, singer and writer (scribe) of the lawful Gospel of God Yehovah the covenant Lawgiver is different from a preacher, teacher, singer and writer (scribe) of the antilaw Gospel of the rebellious. An adherent of the lawful Gospel of God Yehovah the covenant Lawgiver is different from an adherent of the antilaw Gospel of the rebellious Jeremiah 23:18,22,28-29,35-37 ASV For who hath stood in the council of Jehovah, that he should perceive and hear his word? who hath marked my word, and heard it? [22] But if they had stood in my council, then had they caused my people to hear my words, and had turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings. [28] The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and HE THAT HATH MY WORD, LET HIM SPEAK MY WORD FAITHFULLY. What is the straw to the wheat? saith Jehovah. [29] Is not my word like fire? saith Jehovah; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces? [35] Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbor, and every one to his brother, What hath Jehovah answered? and, What hath Jehovah spoken? [36] And the burden of Jehovah shall ye mention no more: for every man's own word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of Jehovah of hosts our God. [37] Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath Jehovah answered thee? and, What hath Jehovah spoken? Deuteronomy 13:1-5 ASV If there arise in the midst of thee a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and he give thee a sign or a wonder, [2] and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; [3] thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or unto that dreamer of dreams: for Jehovah your God proveth you, to know whether ye love Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul. [4] Ye shall walk after Jehovah your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. [5] And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death, because he hath spoken rebellion against Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed thee out of the house of bondage, to draw thee aside out of the way which Jehovah thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put away the evil from the midst of thee. Deuteronomy 18:20-22 ASV But the prophet, that shall speak a word presumptuously in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die. [21] And if thou say in thy heart, How shall we know the word which Jehovah hath not spoken? [22] when a prophet speaketh in the name of Jehovah, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which Jehovah hath not spoken: the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously, thou shalt not be afraid of him.

[@simonskinner1450]

The reason the NT is so close to the Torah in Genesis is it the same religion, Moses was to add sin, and Christ to forgive past sins in a way not available to Israelites that sin.

[@RestorationofallThings]

The three days reference is found in the Torah. It is in the creation story. The earth is without form and void, essentially dead, and on the third day, life comes from the earth in the form of vegetation. It is in the story of Abraham with the binding of Isaac. It is on the third day that Abraham lifts up his eyes and sees the place where he will sacrifice Isaac. He tells his servants that "We" will come back. Abraham believed that God would raise his son from the dead and it is on the third day. The third holy day metioned in Lev. 23 is the Feast of Firstfruits, which is the day Christ was raised from the dead.

[@elliot7205]

It seems the entire NT was written for first century Israel and non of it talks past a first century fullfiment, how can you refute this?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi, Elliot. Here are two of Jesus' statements that say the Gospel is for the entire world, not just first-century Israel: "Therefore go and make disciples of *all nations,* baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matt 28:19) "You will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and *to the ends of the earth”* (Acts 1:8) RLS

[@simonskinner1450]

Here we see the downside of trying to defend an error, of free grace to gain a relationship we are in control of, being already justified (saved). But Romans 5 is only justified or baptised into the church and covenant, so without the faith of Abraham we break the covenant and divorce ourselves from the spiritual church. As atonement does not save, but reconciles us into the church to come to faith. Jesus is the Mercy Seat in heaven judging those baptised into the church as we die.

[@simonskinner1450]

The Torah was given to Abraham that it would be realised in his seed, in the amended version of the Torah given to Moses the seed was again prophesied as the Messiah, to qualify as strictly written in Deuteronomy 18:18. Moses set put the terms for the Messiah, as did Isaiah 53, though both Christianity and Islam misunderstand the Messiah, some Jews also missed that uniquely Jesus did comply with Deuteronomy 18:18. I have a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' covering many interesting topics.

[@Leon-jp7ch]

Isn't it amazing that Christians find Jesus in my Torah and Muslims find Muhammad in the very same book? While our holy prophets Moses in particular never got such information that Christians and Muslims claim to possess, It seems to be a simple task to add what you want whether it fits in or not. I Guess Mormons can also see Joseph Smith in the Torah one way or another 😊

[@joshuamelton9148]

It's also interesting how atheists use the torah to show how it justify slavery.

[@rickblake3674]

Psalm 119 ? Nothing personal? Would it really be unheard of to believe even the 'Hebrew Roots' people are pursuing and actually are seeing what you are now just discovering? Going deeper may be more revealing. Minute 17.47.

[@1g1d1w]

If you believe Jesus is in the Torah you will believe in anything, even that men can have babies. The very beginning of the 10 commandments as you know it, says, "You shall not recognize the gods of others in my presence" what was the chief form of gods of Egypt? Human. I completely understand the mis understanding of whether Jesus Was the messiah, but whether jesus was god in human form or mentioned in the Torah, that's as confusing as believing, men can have babies. There is no argument in the Torah for that. There is only belief or argument if you already believe Jesus is god. If Christian's really believed in the Old Testament, the first and biggest part of their Bible, they would not believe in the New Testament. Personally I do not believe your prayers to Jesus are a sin since you actually beileve he is god. It's how you live that matters. The only thing you are missing out on is a better understanding of Hashem, his teachings, since your focus is on Jesus.

[@berglen100]

Neville Goddard taught race winners need imaginations to find I AM the written stories your mind spark to MIND light.

[@user-cg5zd3of6d]

Scripts a plenty. Will that save them? NOPE : )