Jesus’ Upside Down Kingdom | Messianic Reaction to The Chosen S4 Ep. 3

Dr. Tom and Sam discuss the healing of the man born blind, the awkward conversations about sitting at the right hand of Jesus, and many other aspects of episode 3 of season 4 of The Chosen.
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[@rbrainsop1]

Our tour guide in Israel was a Messianic Jew, and she had a theory that Jesus was forming a new eye from the mud, in the same way that God formed man from the dust of the earth

[@user-zh3pu7qo6o]

“Though I was blind, but now I see.” And Jarius with the fist bump!! YES!!! He definitely experienced God! Thank you guys for your insights.

[@jonirnmomba4130]

After watching this, I looked at the episode that Thomas and Ramah asked Jesus for permission and I think his pained look and hesitation was because He knew they would never be married. I may be searching but it was such a heartbroken look

[@tinaburr4]

God created man out of the dirt, in the saliva of Jesus is the perfection of DNA. Put the two together and you have perfect eye sight.

[@joannapilgrim]

❤ Love this DNA understanding

[@peggyhawkins7517]

A bit late...just got home from church. This episode!! When I saw it in the theater what seems like a lifetime ago, I cheered, jeered, and bawled!

[@annadeinum3480]

Can't wait to see the final episodes with you guys!

[@user-bf8if4es3e]

Same

[@mikejohnson5537]

I remember being stunned in the theater with Ramah's death. The theater was silent for some time after it ended. That said, I can think of four plot points used by the death of Ramah. 1. Impact on Thomas leading to some of his issues. 2. Change of Roman authority in Capernaum, freeing Gaius to perform the role we have expected of him for years. 3. Impact on Ramah's father and his influence with the Sanhedrin and the change in mood and a growing desire to have Christ killed. 4. Possibly setting up Matthew 27:52-53. "52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many." They could choose random people to rise from the dead, but it would be more impactful if these are characters we know and love.

[@amossmith6215]

Agreed 100% I thought of the same thing.

[@meghanbarry3489]

Same here!! I think that’s what a lot of people have to keep in mind! There’s a reason, and the story is far from over.

[@jonisorsen]

I love hearing your explanations of what is happening in the Chosen. I cried so hard, hurting for Thomas.

[@aerogers4117]

Keep in mind that Ramah and their relationship is fictional.

[@Katrene.]

Just an interesting observation about Quintus, Brandon Potter was interviewed and asked what made him decide to portray Quintus the way he does, since Quintus is a ficticious figure, and he did not have much to go on... He says that he researched the name Quintus and in Latin it means 'Fifth'...therefore a child having this name, would have probably been the fifth child, and not viewed as 'specially important'... Quintus therefore had to know that he had to 'prove his worth', in order to make a successful career, and that turned him into this micromanaging, controlling, domineering overseer...it was literally his 'reputation and success' as someone who could stand out, which was on the line for him... Amazing that Brandon picked up so much from just the NAME of the character!

[@dagmarcamargo393]

Quintus Benedictus the third name I forgot!

[@joannapilgrim]

Agreed. That's amazing

[@dagmarcamargo393]

I love this Jairus gesture! So controlled!

[@faithisrising]

This season has been an emotional rollercoaster and this episode especially. I enjoy your insights so much.

[@normalisgone]

I think Jarius expresses himself the way so many of us feel! When his daughter is healed, and he tells Jesus, 'Thank you. There are no other words. Thank you!' And now in this episode...'Yes!' Yep, Jarius is one of my favorites! Also, I love when a new Chosen episode comes out, because I know you two will soon come out with a reaction video, loaded with interesting historical context and information. Thank you so much!!!

[@Grafted]

We're so glad you're enjoying the reaction videos!

[@joannapilgrim]

Wow. I didn't even realize how much Gaius gave up in that defiant moment until you guys pointed it out. Thank you ❤

[@DovesEyes623]

I have had a teaching on the reason for using spit in this instance, part of the messianic miracles to heal a man blind from birth, but particularly, if I recall, prior to this religious leaders were questioning Jesus' legitimacy of birth (particularly who His father was), and I believe I've been taught that there was perhaps significance in Hebrew culture to believe the first born son had healing powers in saliva. So with the religious leaders to witness Jesus healing with saliva, was another messianic sign that He is indeed a first born son (not illegitimate child as the leaders were trying to suggest).

[@vortexathletic]

Thank you for explaining Midrash to us and for those who have those concerns.

[@chrisinolympiawa9295]

I liked your analysis at the end. I do think the Thomas and Ramah story was added more for modern audiences. The issue of loosing a loved one is a common theme we can all recognize. The questions that we don't always get the answers to that we want is a common experience among believers. As you said, it draws us into the story. And the disciples (in future episodes) wrestle with similar questions as to the ones we have. Maybe they did not have these exact questions, but they certainly wrestled with human issues common to man.

[@jenelleclark328]

Jesus not brining back Remah is also a reminder that He was following the Father’s absolute will. And often in His will, He does not give us everything we ask for. His will is perfect.

[@auntiex5343]

Thank you for the commentary!!!

[@maryiacangelo5099]

I love how Jesus heals the blind man in front of witnesses and how he responds in belief.

[@peggymigas9876]

The man was born without eyes. Jesus created them with the mud. He didn’t create anything from thin air. Think about the loaves and fishes and the wine. He started with some material. The healing of the man born blind was very significant.

[@joannapilgrim]

Jesus recreating his eyes with the dust of the ground is the same way I understand what Jesus did with the man born blind. To Him be all the glory Amen

[@casavon3]

thank you for what you do….made a modest donation. be blessed

[@Grafted]

Thank you so much!

[@dagmarcamargo393]

I also love John Baptist when he goes yeeah!

[@normalisgone]

Same! I could watch it a 1000 times!!

[@maggierichardson6645]

I. missed you guys. I didn't watch anything so I wouldn't get any spoiler alerts thank you I love the way that you evaluate the scenes

[@Castedlots]

I wish they would give insight on John, often referred to as the "one that Jesus loved" and let us see why.

[@robbinsnest6163]

My 10 year old said "imagine the first person you get to see is Jesus!"❤

[@jenniferoutlaw1975]

I always imagined the spitting in the dirt and making mud as almost corrective surgery like an eye transplant. 🥳

[@aerogers4117]

Since he was blind, he didn’t see/know about the spitting part. And once healed, he wouldn't care.

[@iluvrolaz]

Please don't make us wait so long for the next one!

[@Grafted]

We are working on getting videos out as fast as we can! Some of our team has been traveling and attending to other commitments. We are excited to get these reaction videos out to everyone too! We're working on it!

[@twiceborn_by_grace]

I wish Atticus was the one that did the numbers because in the beginning of this episode it would have been “Atticus with an Abacus”. Although I do like “Always Eating Atticus”.

[@mezza4711]

Good morning (6am) from Perth Western Australia

[@Teresa24601]

Been waiting for this.

[@marialeonor9171]

Shalom shalom, guys! Oh boy, this episode... 😶😨

[@katrinaelder3513]

It is fantastic to me that when Jesus spit in the dirt and put that in the man's eyes, his DNA was in that man.

[@barbarabentley5345]

Earlier in the gospels the word All is used, He healed all who were brought to him on some days, and healed the widow's son of Nain without being asked. This was not every day, and always in submission to the Father. There have been instances of healing in my family, and other times of grief when there was not. Even Lazarus did die- I hope as an old man, but scripture does not say, and the Sanhedrin were after him at the same time as they plotted against Jesus. God alone is on the throne and has the authority over life and death.

[@EmMiller-wu3dy]

Well stated.

[@joannapilgrim]

The cost of Discipleship is definitely worth it

[@kathryncarty1629]

The chatted faf! 😂

[@EmMiller-wu3dy]

They’re so funny😂

[@clintonlagdameo5452]

23:51 Hmmm. Have you guys seen 'The Smiling Pharisees' over at Steve Shermett's channel? He's Rabbi Josiah here, and he with the actor playing Rabbi Akiva have a wonderful conversation with two other cast-mates who were in the same scene that follows this, reflecting on it.

[@user-dx6mf2xs4j]

The world is actually inverted and upside down. That's why everything else look upside down. Stand upright!! Only then will you see the Trurh.

[@normabreazile5500]

👍🙏❤️

[@Anfani]

Hey my guys!

[@nicholasmcgee947]

The explanation is in 1st century jewish context. In the talmud, there are laws against making mud on shabbat and touching saliva. The purpose was to elevate God's law and show that their man made laws mean nothing. Shalom

[@JerodM]

Here is what I have an opinion on as to why Jesus made the clay. So far I have peace in my spirit on this possibility. The fact is, the man born blind seemed to be in such a bad way that people questioned the sins of himself or his family as the cause. Blindness was not new, nor was it new to Jesus who had already healed some blind eyes. I believe the man was born without eyes as a whole. Not just blind, but incapable of ever seeing because of the lack of eyes. Jesus, through whom all things are created (Colassians 1) made the clay, which we are made out of and actually formed eyes for the man. This is why this miracle was so big in scripture. This is why pharisees couldn't believe he could have done it without demonic help. This was a creative miracle. Putting physical, seeing eyes, where there were none.

[@ryanburns1434]

My wife and I personally feel Rhema getting killed was unnecessary, at the same time I get why they are doing this. They’re bringing real life situations, questions and experiences from all believers that may have had been these situations, experiences and have the same questions and bringing them into the show with the disciples at that time to prove that we are all the same and still deal with same issues following Jesus. And also my wife made a very good point that Jesus even said that He didn’t lose one except Judas, but again I get why they did this.

[@aerogers4117]

She was a fictional character and the writers created the storyline to add to Thomas's future doubting.

[@DanTumaMedia]

❤❤❤

[@tex8917]

He didnt heal everyone He came in contact with, when He went to the pool, He only healed the 1 guy (z's brother) but left the rest unhealed (historical accounts there were thousands there needing healing. Plus He had to have passed the gate beautiful not healing the lame guy that is later healed in Acts. the hard part about the Rhema scene is the verse that "He healed all who came to Him" and they did depict Thomas going to Him and asking (not to mention ask and you'll receive). I do agree with you about this setting up why Thomas doubted His resurrection so much.

[@dagmarcamargo393]

I love Barnabé too.

[@rrosedame-martin290]

We were made perfect from dirt , so He uses dirt to make his eyes perfect

[@melissaminder5534]

We are dirt. 😊

[@pattyegroffel7834]

Quinton’s was aiming for Thomas!

[@Katrene.]

As far as Thomas is concerned.... The Lord's Ways are not our ways, and His Thoughts are higher than our thoughts... In retrospect, we might understand where this is all going...and why Yeshua did not heal Rema... Rema was to honor her father and her mother under the law...and by basically 'running away' with Thomas against her father's wishes... she dishonoured him breaking the fifth commandment...she was no longer under Messiah's protection... This Law has a promise and a penalty..."that your days may be PROLONGED...in the Land God gave you"....the reverse is also true then... If Messiah healed her or brought her back to life, He would have been complicit in dishonoring Rema's father...i.e. He would have encouraged/facilitated/supported her sin... she had to remain dead... As far as the storyline goes... Rema's father might be the main instigator starting the crowd up when Barabbas and Messiah are presented...shouting... "Crucify Him".... because he would have been holding this grudge against Messiah since his daughter's death...

[@reneerocha1796]

14:16 That’s it! Sanctification!

[@user-yq4wg3wn7e]

Guys the lord created eyes from the dust of the earth that is simply it.

[@pututwicaksono]

James & John scene, take notes. The devil attacks you not from someone that far from you, but from someone that close to you, your parents, siblings, wife, or your children. Think before you say or do...

[@reneerocha1796]

15:22 ooh get thee behind me….😮

[@Janie_S]

Love you guys but there are WAY too many ads…

[@user-cx5ef6fg4x]

Jesus spit: “Holy”Spit

[@reneerocha1796]

2:48 😂😅

[@reneerocha1796]

You askin for it Quintus….😮

[@reneerocha1796]

21:25 😅😅😅😂

[@marykearns1937]

sorry I hit the wrong button I meant LIKE

[@reneerocha1796]

10:19 what’s up with Salome??? Were they, you think, that envious?? She just seems like she’s over the top about it. She was so humble before when He was teaching at their house…🤷🏻‍♀️I think Jesus should’ve gone and set her straight. lol!😂

[@dagmarcamargo393]

Did Thaddeus pushed Quintus?

[@jorinebustraan9659]

Someone in the crowd did, after Quintus grabbed and shook Thaddeus

[@dagmarcamargo393]

@@jorinebustraan9659 thank you. You are right.

[@MariaIMedina2121]

They got their name before anybody.... Son's of thunder..... They never mentioned that.....

[@reneerocha1796]

16:24 She’s gone off the rails….😅really

[@Amarie376]

The Chad ​​This brings to mind that Olsteenesque prosperity ministry that misconstrues scripture to imply that wealth, prosperity, and notoriety on earth are things Jesus was teaching for us to have in thislife I am going to comment on this guy's note. First of all, the word prosperity doesn't just speak of money. Prosperity is money, health, well being, peace etc....Why not prosper. If you prosper in many ways, you are able to help others. Also, people should stop judging preachers especially if they have lots of money. And, Jesus started out small and had many followers. These comments just burn me...Just giving my comments

[@thechad4485]

If you want to defend false teachers, and not rebuke them for their misleading of God’s people, then that’s between you and God. But his actions time and time again prove he is far from the heart of Christ, and in a great need to turn away from his ways and turn to the ways of Jesus. Like when the flooding hit the area of his church, and when people were dying around them, looking for a safe refuge from the storm, Joel locked the doors to his worship center because he didn’t want people ruining their new carpet. But the mattress store down the street opened their doors to allow people in need to sleep on their beds on display for safety and a temporary home to provide safety during the storm. Who is the greater example of Christ’s love? The mattress store owner that sacrificed 100s of thousands of dollars worth of product without hesitation to save others, or the millionaire church leader that locked his doors on people in need?

[@marykearns1937]

the Romans were neither Irish nor American

[@kevinkeenan-2.1]

I feel like Salome misunderstood what Jesus is saying but Zebedee got it right. Also I would like to point out that Jesus should have healed Ramah, because he has heal lots of people. Sure I know what he said it’s wasn’t her time but why did the writers have to have Ramah killed? To make Thomas doubt even more.

[@joannapilgrim]

Who are we to say what Jesus should and shouldn't do? He is sovereign and so is His will. The clay has not right to tell the Potter how to make it and why and for what purpose. We ought to humble ourselves under His will because it is perfect.

[@kevinkeenan-2.1]

@@joannapilgrim But still he was there, he could have healed her, not to mention there are other problems with this show.

[@jorinebustraan9659]

@@kevinkeenan-2.1 It could well be connected to the whole issue around the Sons of Thunder (and their mother!) considering asking for what they think is needed. "Ask and it shall be given" doesn't mean that all our requests are granted ....

[@Hope-kx9lz]

I have no problem with the teaching in itself, but I can't imagine Jesus would have refused to heal his own apostles while he was PHYSICALLY with them. As far as I know, it is not written that he ever did such a thing, so I'm a little worried that these made up stories about Little James and Thomas might create a false image. Matthew wrote that Jesus healed EVERYONE who came to him. His closest people were certainly no exception. EVERYONE means EVERYONE! And the reason his apostles followed him in the first place was because of his miracles and healings (of course his teachings too, but their attention was primarily caught by his miracles/healings). Non-healings happened among the followers of Jesus and are a very different thing and when Jesus was no longer physically present. What if the authors of The Chosen are wrong on this point? Or is there a record somewhere of an apostle that Jesus refused to heal or help while he walked the earth? If not, that is a blasphemous statement. I love The Chosen and I am convinced that they do their best to portray Jesus as realistically as possible, but there is also the divine side of Him that I think is neglected too much, but is just as important. I hope my comment is not deleted immediately. People should be allowed to question things. I am also very happy to be corrected if someone can prove that Jesus did not heal one of the apostles when he walked the earth.

[@ongjanette]

These are not factual bible stories and The Chosen never claims that their storylines are. I believe they created these storylines as teaching moments of the deeper truths of the Bible. The healing or non-healing can be answered by Jesus declaring that he only does the will of the Father. And the will of the Father is to glorify His name, whether that be healing now, or suffering for a season. You know, like, not that the man born blind has sinned or his parents sinned... But that the glory of God may be manifested.

[@inezwesterduin8768]

Remember John the Baptist!

[@aerogers4117]

They created that storyline when they decided to hire the actor who had an obvious limp.

[@Hope-kx9lz]

@@inezwesterduin8768 I meant when Jesus stood right next to the particular apostle who was asking for help and/or healing.

[@Hope-kx9lz]

@@ongjanette I know the stories are not factual, and most of the time I'm OK with that, because they don't contradict the Bible. But here I'm not so sure, because Matthew wrote Jesus healed EVERYBODY who asked Him for help.

[@marykearns1937]

BUT NO AMERICANS!

[@JanHoyt-Brown]

You guys are blind he stated that he only came for the 12 tribes of Israel. The lost sheep

[@joannapilgrim]

I disagree

[@jorinebustraan9659]

Where does He say this? I clearly remember reading that He sent His disciples into Samaria and "to the ends of the earth". Later on, Paul calls himself an "apostle to the Gentiles", was he disobeying God?